Great video, but I couldn’t help laughing at “We bought this attachment at our local home improvement store” followed by a screenshot of the Amazon listing 😂
@grizzlycreek9617 Жыл бұрын
The fan at the end of the hall is key. It takes more energy to push the heavy cold air than the lighter warm air. If the fan were by the stove, the colder heavy air at the end of the hall would move less.
@funkyprepper3 жыл бұрын
Omg that cleaner that fits onto the drill. Amazing 👏
@ArthursHD4 жыл бұрын
We have masonry heater stoves in a lot of homes in the country. That helps capture and retain the heat. A stove with flue gas reburner burns more efficiently. But if you half close a damper than you are messing with fluid dynamics in the stow. Cause of the negative pressure behind the damper you are pulling flame and flue gas up in the chimney. You should check CO, CO² levels in your living space as well.
@maihuychung5686 Жыл бұрын
This thing can hold a fire!! I burn a lot of wood and it holds up. I would recommend this product.
@Jamie31923 Жыл бұрын
Never really thought of using old bricks around the fireplace, but makes sense. We’ve got and insert into the old open fireplace here in Australia, and we’ve still gotta wait until those bricks heat up before the house really get warm. Pain in the butt if it goes out overnight lol😂. I totally agree with what you said about each fireplace/stove being different, I think it took myself about 2 seasons before I fully got it 100% figured out. Being the air control is a lift up flap and not a slide like most. I’ll got try the bricks out with our shed fire now.
@shaneeastman853211 ай бұрын
Ha! at 4:13 ish you're talking about blowing the cold air to the woodstove and tend to agree with your line of thinking. Very cool to get validation.
@OmegaWalple4 жыл бұрын
The one thing I have seen here in Europe that I never seen growing up in the US is a Radiator/HeatExchanger that goes on the fireplace/stove. We use wood for heating our apartment in the mountains of Bulgaria and with the Radiator/HeatExchanger for a fireplace/stove this thing really helps increase our heat efficiency way up than it would be without it. The main downside to it is it is a major pain in the but to clean. That all said though my wife wont let me order and ship one to you for you try it out.
@Homesteadhow4 жыл бұрын
That's so interesting! Have you heard of feeding outside air via a duct into the wood stove instead of using in room air?
@OmegaWalple4 жыл бұрын
@@Homesteadhow yes we do that as well
@leeknivek Жыл бұрын
They are illegal here in the USA, the problem being that the heat exchanger will pull too much heat from the smoke and cause it to condense and create excess creosote inside the flue. We used to have one when I was a kid in our house from the 1950s, a water jacket wood boiler. They can also be dangerous, wood fired heaters are not very common in USA in general because insurance companies don’t like them, and you generally “have to” have house insurance.
@OmegaWalple Жыл бұрын
@@leeknivek Thank you for the insight, I did not know they were illegal. That would also explain why I've never seen one in the US.
@mikafoxx2717 Жыл бұрын
@@leeknivekyeah, even for efficiency testing of wood stoves requires a fairly hot exhaust temp, which limits efficiency. Condensing natural gas burners get a lot more heat out of their fuel because they can cool it right down to nearly room temp, or until the water vapour from the reaction condenses. The best you can get here is going all-in with a masonry stove with Bels and all.
@MJPGuitar Жыл бұрын
I heat most of our downstairs with a Dyna Glo kerosene heater. I bought one of those fans and it’s helped a ton! Thanks for the tip.
@Homesteadhow Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@stevenday96872 жыл бұрын
Never really thought about tip #3 but a soon as you started explaining it it was like well sure. Thanks for that. The answers are usually right in front of you, you,'re just not seeing them. Plus once that heat reaches the fan it is then forced into circulating. Good stuff man.
@thomasolson74472 жыл бұрын
I would need to see actual numbers crunched if you want me to believe a clean chimney is better. Turbulent flow always makes heat distribution better.
@thechumpsbeendumped.77973 жыл бұрын
If you have an open fire and you have a well sealed home without any drafts from doors, windows and gaps between floorboard you’ll need to pipe fresh air to the fire from outside. The reason for this is because when air goes up the chimney it has to be replaced or the air pressure will be lower inside than out and the chimney won’t be able to draw properly. This wasn’t a problem in old leaky buildings as fresh air was always able to find a way into the buildings, sucked into the house from any gaps in the structure as the hot gasses flew up the flue.
@adrianjohnson7920 Жыл бұрын
Simply not blocking the crack (with a draft-excluder) under the front or back door can sometimes be sufficient draft for a wood-stove in a modern insulated house. Keeping this natural draft will also protect a too-well insulated house from getting mould from lack of circulation + humidity.
@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianjohnson7920 They’re 2 different but connected problems and ideally should be tackled as such. Having a gap under a door negates having a well insulated and draft proofed building and also makes the room where the air enters unnecessarily cold. It’s far better to pipe in fresh air to the inlet of the fire and avoid the negative pressure created in the chimney sucking out warm air from the room you’re trying to heat (as efficiently as possible) to be replaced by cold from outside. As for maintaining good quality air and low moisture, that’s far better achieved with a heat exchanger that exhausts warm, stale, moist air and uses it to warm incoming air.
@dannkettle41064 жыл бұрын
If you are choosing a wood stove, you can also decide between catalyst vs traditional stoves. With a catalyst insert, I am getting 14+ hours of heat on a load of oak wood, because the fire ignites at lower temperatures with less air and combust more cleanly (and slowly). Survival Russia youtube channel also shows how siberians would stay warm with their stoves. Hint: It involves a lot of bricks.
@maryhelvey88414 жыл бұрын
Great tips for those who have wood burning fireplaces/ stoves.
@Trueblue2223 жыл бұрын
Yes , if you don’t have a wood burning fireplace / stove , these tips are really not very useful.
@barryhall3971 Жыл бұрын
How about if I run the furnace fan (fan only mode) which takes air from a large intake on the lower level where the wood stove is and will distribute it though the upper level ducts?
@Bushkangaroo59.3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you with “safety” apparel!👍😎 I keep our wood stove in the basement with a fan running downstairs and a ceiling fan upstairs, the whole house stays warm because the upstairs floor is warm and the house holds the heat for awhile after the stove is at minimum heat.
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
Nice setup! If I had a basement I'd do the same, we have a crawl space here. Thx for watching!
@simbajohn1882 Жыл бұрын
Woodstove in basement have a ceiling fan at the top of the stairs in the main living area. Should I have fan drawing heat up the stairs
@Unkdrefinest11 ай бұрын
Thanks Homestead I appreciate the tips 👌🏾
@pikifrino2 жыл бұрын
Very good!.. THANK YOU!..
@jeannelongtin72252 жыл бұрын
Can I put a few soapstones on the bottom of my wood stove to help retain heat?
@matthewbrown5371 Жыл бұрын
I've heard the bricks around the stove is a little controversial. Ours sits in an old fire place so it's already surrounded by bricks, but I heard once that if you set bricks around it like that the stove can't disipate the heat we'll. I'll have to try the box fan thing, that kinda makes sense.
@LysanderLH3 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video for those of us whose log burners are wider but also shallower? You load logs end first into your burner that are even too long to fit into mine if loaded across the width. This means wood burns at the back but much heat is lost up the chimney.
@Ryan-u5fАй бұрын
I am very proud of you. You've come a long way in your journey of healing and now healing others. Thank you for pushing yourself and us into carnivore.
@AdamB123 жыл бұрын
I use those Entreeair fans that mount to the corner of a hallway. Moves air decently and is tucked out of the way
@ianh96964 жыл бұрын
Seeing you in your Argo 6x6 I can't get this song out of my head. 1 banana 2 banana 3 banana 4.........
@harPerhawk3 жыл бұрын
I have a soapstone stove in my basement living room. I had been somewhat disappointed with its efficiency and considered an attached fan but it was way too expensive and reviews claimed that it was noisy. I ended up simply setting a table fan on the floor behind a chair and pointed at the stove. That fan practically doubled the output of my stove. It’s the same principle as blowing on a spoon of hot soup to cool it down faster. The fan pushes cool floor air against the stove and strips away the heated air
@heathernelson36532 жыл бұрын
Try using a ceiling fan in the same room as the wood stove. It was a game changer for our family.
@hulk84bda2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man I never knew about a reverse fan option.
@fredgarv79 Жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem with not getting enough heat, even with a high cathedral ceiling and not using the fan after a few hours it just gets too hot, so I shut the stove down with the damper, but if I do that for too long it starts to get cold again. So is it better to keep a low fire going for a long time or get it really hot, then shut it down? My insert sits our pretty far into the room and that radiant heat really works and keeps the house plenty warm and even still warm the next morning but I want to use less wood. I mean sure at 3am I can put a big log in and shut it down and the next day it's plenty warm even 12 hours after the last log, but I want to use less wood. Should you just heat it up until it gets comfortable then stop adding wood? I have done that but then the fire mostly goes out and it starts to get cold again. I go through 2.5 to close to 3 cords from Oct thru april but I'd love it if I could use only 2 cords max. Question I have read the heat fans are not for inserts, not enough air from behind? The stove had an electric blower attached but I hardly use it, one because its loud even on low and two I just don't need it even if it gets down to say 25 degrees outside.
@user-hd1qx2bd1r3 жыл бұрын
Well Explained !!!
@crisprtalk69634 жыл бұрын
My Chef taught me.... "If you got time to lean you got time to clean! "
@Homesteadhow4 жыл бұрын
I tell my kids that too!
@LadyBastt19803 жыл бұрын
I don't have much seasoned wood as an option unfortunately this season (some of our wood is half seasoned and some was from standing dead). One thing I have been doing is keeping 4-5 days of wood inside to let it dry by the stove. Pieces that feel heavy for their size I set on top of the stove while I can watch it, and leave it there until I can smell it charring slightly. Then I rotate it off to one side to sit for a couple days. It has helped though it's still not as good as seasoned wood. Are there any tips to improve on this with the understanding that we're too poor to buy a seasoned cord of wood this season (unless I manage to find some work soon)?
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
We do the same, we always try to have a nice stockpile near the stove to dry out. Thx
@Anthony_Spilotro3 жыл бұрын
Criss cross your wood when stacking it whether be inside or outside. Be sure have the ends of the logs pointing towards the direction you get most of the wind , the wind blowing through the the criss crossed stack will help it dry much faster. Whenever stacking wood , make sure its not really tightly packed together .
@blueboat95812 жыл бұрын
Please don't put wood directly onto the wood stove. My dad did that and the house almost burned down.
@barryhall3971 Жыл бұрын
In tip#2 is it safe to have that stack of wood so close to the stove?
@Dan-qt7kq3 жыл бұрын
Good points all I have been taught and still do my job to pass down to my kids.
@curlyrooster1183 жыл бұрын
I use some wood pellets to start the fire or re-kindle for my wood stove. I also use concrete blocks on top so I have a lesser of a chance to burn myself from touching it's top. creating a thermal mass around it with the same blocks, keeps my sun room toasty till morning.
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
Smart tips, I've used pellets similarly. Thx!
@asmallwhitedog04793 жыл бұрын
I season my wood two years. Even better.
@kparish124 жыл бұрын
I have a new wood stove- my friend has some old firewood and it burns hot and fast. I purchased “seasoned oak” twice and it just doesn’t burn. I’m doubting if it’s really seasoned and for how long.
@Homesteadhow4 жыл бұрын
You are probably right!... you can usually tell how dry it is by how hot the fire gets, if you hear crackles and pops
@mrwess19273 жыл бұрын
Get a moisture meter to test wood before you buy. Split a piece and measure the inside moisture. Seasoned wood is less than 20% moisture. Cost 10-50$ saves money and frustration of paying for green wood at seasoned prices. Oak takes the longest to dry . Minimum 1-2 years sometimes 3 to “season”. Be sure to ask when the wood was cut and split. Best of luck!
@jdaza19873 жыл бұрын
I'm seeing alot of people who deliver wood are not aware of the difference between seasoned wood(for a stove) and campfire wood.
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
@@jdaza1987 true, big difference. I'd suggest s moisture meter
@micwell22472 ай бұрын
A canner size kettle filled with water set on top of the stove, will increase heated using even less fuel
@ericackerly34283 ай бұрын
good job...couple years late. Nice explanations
@mr.ramjangles51652 жыл бұрын
What kind of fan is that on your stove?
@tommyhuynh23152 жыл бұрын
Some basic thermodynamics: Heating your home is about transferring heat from the fire to the house. Firebricks act as an insulator, reducing total heat transfer. Also opening the door may cool the stove but that heat moved to your house, which is the point. Nothing wrong with that.
@grantdyble34722 жыл бұрын
Except that once the heat transfers into the room it dissaptes much faster than it would if it stayed in the stove and kept the stove hot. It's why you have a stove in the first place rather than just having an open fire.
@adrianjohnson7920 Жыл бұрын
@@grantdyble3472 And I worry about carbon monoxide with the door open.
@blueboat95812 жыл бұрын
My old man has a magic heat wood stove heat reclaimer.. its a no brainer but install isn't easy
@glennhernandez43663 жыл бұрын
keep it going
@lukeburrows12293 жыл бұрын
Have you tried a Recoheat?
@dinketti3 жыл бұрын
Very nice!⚓
@ginalee35614 жыл бұрын
We have a screen/grate attachment for our stove that fits when the door is open. When would we use that?
@easy_two4 жыл бұрын
Those are used for those times when you want to see and hear the fire for enjoyment rather than heat efficiency.
@lisageiger67513 жыл бұрын
What is the brand name of your stove? What is the stove you would recommend for 3600 sq. ft home?
@Cheva-Pate3 жыл бұрын
And i put a realy big kettle with water on the stove, and the next day that kettle is a big radiator with heat that keep the room warm!
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
Nice, keeps the air from getting too dry!
@Cheva-Pate3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i have a lid on but there are some steam. And i have always hot water for tea, food,....
@todddavis2403 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, but I have to disagree with the fire bricks. I just had extra and used them for my base and I used them for a back block besides concrete board and I had a hell of a time to get the stove to heat well at all like this. I changed pipe and tried all kinds of things and it was the brick. Absorbing heat I needed Lol I guess
@claytonjohnson8695 Жыл бұрын
My bricks also take away from my heat. Woodburning stove Is inlaid in bricks ...
@megataz19823 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful home. What state do u live in.
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
Wisconsin, thx
@marsilt3 жыл бұрын
I don't get people who are living in cold areas and heating houses with iron stove (such a waste of wood and time despite all your efforts). Putting rocks beside stove is step toward right direction but why not do build brick stove (one can be done out of clay too e.g. rocket stove: it's even more efficient)? We have one brick stove, it's 50 years old and still heating rooms even with -30 C outside. Of course it is cheaper to buy iron stove at first place but in the long run there's so much less trouble with brick stove, gives out more calories and is more cost efficient. We use ca. 6 cubic meters fire wood per year for 50 sq. meters heated rooms which are quite poorly insulated. Good job with cleaning:) And ventilators are good idea even with brick stove:)
@Brisbanesdaddy3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the drill attachment??? I want one for cleaning my stove pipe
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
Menards
@guspompa32834 жыл бұрын
Love the information and lornig more thanks
@DreambuyrentCom2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@icreatecrafts84624 жыл бұрын
Great video and tips, thanks for taking the time to create this
@Homesteadhow4 жыл бұрын
uh huh
@apuuvah3 жыл бұрын
Tip number 7. Increase insulation. Tip number 8. Get a "Scandinavian style" masonry heater, be it bricks or soapstone. Yeah, I know it gets kinda expensive tho.
@EmilyTienne3 жыл бұрын
Great tips and pointers. Sorry about what those guests did to your air bnb. What kind of people would do this?
@mikelaaper91003 жыл бұрын
Eco Fans. How do you know they work?
@mikelaaper91003 жыл бұрын
Oops. I hit send too fast. I had one of these fans. Have family members who have them and love them. But I am not a fan. They are pretty to watch. Hang a thread in front of the fan and see how strong the air movement is. Then move your hand slowly away from the fan. I find you have to be very close to the fan for the thread or string to be effected. If you are not the string hangs limp. I found a ceiling fan rotating in the correct direction for heating season works very good at circulating and distributing the heat.
@jamesbowskill3623 жыл бұрын
Storing a pile of cut wood in the warm house encourages wood worm to proliferate & infect wood products in the house like main beams, panelling etc.
@Romano411894 жыл бұрын
Hey man I have some extra bricks at my house and I'm going to try it out! Thanks for the tip 👍
@Homesteadhow4 жыл бұрын
You bet! Sitting by our wood stove now!
@sissymurphy96203 жыл бұрын
WILL THOSE ECHO FANS WORK IF YOU PUT THEM IN FRONT OF A WOOD BURNING FIREPLACE
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
No, surface heat is needed
@sissymurphy96203 жыл бұрын
@@Homesteadhow the why do they show them used for the little buddy heaters working
@nibbletouch75663 жыл бұрын
Are those bricks which retain the heat a special type of brick?
@daveroberts72953 жыл бұрын
No. Any brick or rock or concrete will do. It is called heat mass. water makes a good heat mass too. In Europe they build stoves with hundreds to thousands of pounds of heat mass built in. Slow to heat u and slow to cool down.
@PurpleCollarLife3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! We love our wood stove.
@dbm523 жыл бұрын
Combustion air from outside or inside ???
@tubularesa19 ай бұрын
ONE IDEA AND QUESTION: what if you put a couple of those fire bricks inside the wood stove for one hour and later you move those bricks into a far away room? do you think it could heat a little bit that room? has anyone tried this before? waiting for your comments, thanks
@theschoolofthoughts52742 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the firebricks reduce the heat radiation to room and would rather lose it through the flue pipe
@EskimoInAlaska4 жыл бұрын
That was a GOOD video 💗💗💗
@ecolenakles3 жыл бұрын
Old wellington boots make a good heat source
@deus-sued-autark2 жыл бұрын
Gedanken Tipps
@zerpblerd59663 жыл бұрын
#1 tip: moisture in the air a steel or iron pot on top of the stove with water in it to evaporate, and a humidifier (either a small misting one or a heavier duty clear-air one with a filter and whatnot) are essential in winter (no more dry skin, cracking lips, and adds a TON to heat retention + warmth in the air - it's why jungle heat is 'hotter' than desert heat), and then you can also: use a spray bottle with water to mist+moisten window curtains and other areas to add even more moisture to the air
@zerpblerd59663 жыл бұрын
@Carl Klinkenborg no, it stores heat - that's why 80degrees in the tropics is 'so much hotter' than 80 degrees in the desert...
@ruidadgmailcanada8508 Жыл бұрын
@@zerpblerd5966Humidity…it’s all relative. 😊
@joeshmoe7813 жыл бұрын
Why only one free fan? Three could fit on there.
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
3 times the power!
@libya002182 жыл бұрын
very good video, I wish I could give you 1000 like. thanks a lot
@geraldmoore62574 жыл бұрын
A very small house of 1000 square feet needs a total of 300,000 BTU per day in the north. For this a stove should average 12,500 BUT output per hour. Math test: How many BTUs will 100 pounds of masonry store if heated to 200ºF in a 70º house? Masonry has 0.2 BTU/lb*F heat capacity. BTUs stored = 0.2 * (200-70) = 26 Conclusion: A few hundred pounds of bricks will store an insignificant amount of heat when compared to the total heat needed in a day or even an hour. This is why masonry heaters use tones, not pounds.
@Noa15Lv3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I kept wasting my firewood because of fast burning wood and less heat production. I'll keep my eye out to maximise heat.
@clem9562710 ай бұрын
Tip 1. Maximize Draft. 2. Burn Dry wood (15 - 20%) max. 3. Use heat powered fans and box fans. 4. Use bricks around the stove for thermal mass. 5. Open stove less. 6. Learn to run your stove. 7. Teach your wife to chop wood. * *optional. 😂
@jerry-cw9yw3 жыл бұрын
burn an aluminum can once or twice a week in a hot fire helps keep the soot buildup down.....
@nickguthrie9309 Жыл бұрын
Smoke is unburned fuel. Get a catalyst type stove and harvest that energy and look for smoke. There won't be any and your fuel bill is much less
@simonpidgeon9493 жыл бұрын
💯👍👍
@josephinebennington72473 жыл бұрын
Aaah…free wood. Lovely….for some.
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
Not really free, we did pay for the land
@josephinebennington72473 жыл бұрын
@@Homesteadhow You bought the land just for the wood? That would be costly logs. Whatever, you’re not paying a 3rd party luxury/fashion prices for your logs, as is the case in UK. But either way is expensive.
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
@@josephinebennington7247 partly, I mean your prior comment of ohh free wood must be nice...I thrifted and saved and worked my entire adult life to pay for my property so its hardly "free wood"
@josephinebennington72473 жыл бұрын
@@Homesteadhow In which case, I wouldn’t knock the realising of a such a major ambition, that sounds like it embraces more than just buying a wood supply. Good luck.
@tyronetripod85363 жыл бұрын
why did you use 3 stoves up in 5 yrs?
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
3 stoves?
@joesanchez36463 жыл бұрын
Once a year cleaning!! Not wise, I clean the pipe-insert the first of every month,
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@MrBrickboy383 жыл бұрын
If you are using seasoned wood and using the stove properly, I don't understand why you need to clean that often. I clean mine at the beginning of the season and check it again, about mid season and I seldom get anything out of it if you are burning seasoned wood
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBrickboy38 same
@SheldonRunkleАй бұрын
WHY ?! WHY ?! Not set it up three foot ? !
@nedmilburn9 ай бұрын
If your car mufflers draw too much you lose power. Same with wood stoves.
@tammyjanis5093 жыл бұрын
👍👍👌👌
@0714will Жыл бұрын
In the end every video says Also, a ceiling fan run in reverse. 😆 Jeez people. Y'all watch these videos expecting some new magic! It's hilarious! Learn how the air travels in your house. Trial and error.
@thesusboomerroblox65163 жыл бұрын
I just noticed my little brother changed my name
@cristian15man573 жыл бұрын
Hay una cosa mas que se les tiene que cambiar a las estufas para ahorrar mas y calentar mas ,40 por ciento mas ahorro u 40 por ciento mas calor .. Pero yo vendo mis ideeas
@dakotamoone19594 жыл бұрын
some of your ideas are good. but if you omit the blowing of your own horn. sort a speak. i think that the video would have more street cred if you know what i mean
@b100ka2 жыл бұрын
Thumbed it down 1.15 min wait before the Real topic
@Homesteadhow2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@globalpioneer50763 жыл бұрын
Wood stove aren't efficient at all. That's why the exhaust pipe gets so hot, 30% of the heat is going outside
@pradrev3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with some things. Having fans just creates wind and spreads ash and dust across the room. The stoves have to be made in such a way that they are spreading infrared waves, not hot air. The stoves must have all covers removed, they must be done with one layer of metal like in Norwegian stoves. If you want to get the air to some remote places, you need to destroy the walls and create a big opening. Having the bricks near the stove is a total nonsense. You are blocking the infrared rays to spread across the room and heat walls and dry the walls to prevent appearing fungus. The author of the video made some work but mostly he speaks a nonsense.
@singhisking52713 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the climate change.
@Homesteadhow3 жыл бұрын
How are you typing this? How do u heat your house?
@singhisking52713 жыл бұрын
@@Homesteadhow we live in 2021 , didn`t you hear about solar , or are you living in the stone age ?
@punktlig73543 жыл бұрын
Wood burning is carbon neutral. One of the better way to heat a home.
@mountainhollers26612 жыл бұрын
So I assume your smart phone, lap top, tablet etc was made completely different from everyone else’s ? Ya know …in a way that doesn’t depend on mining metals and minerals from the earth. I figured you already made sure of this since you’re concerned about things like wood stoves harming the environment
@MEM-fk9hs2 жыл бұрын
Look into how solar panels and associated batteries are made. You'll see they're hardly eco-friendly. Maybe they can be made so someday, but right now, there's a lot of harmful effect from especially the batteries.