60 anniversary of the 1962 Sino-Indian war, bumbling Nehru, Krishna Menon, squabbling generals

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[@vishwassinha569]

1962 - Here we go again!!! India lost fresh territories in China over last 3 years, no? From Ladakh to Arunachal border, ask any villager there!

[@josephdevassy4256]

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[@abhishekrai33]

Gupta ji....thapar and kaul were nehru's blue eyed boys...they were like nehru...hero in LUTYENS and zero in war ☹️☹️☹️☹️

[@sudipb6995]

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[@ThePrintIndia]

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[@jitmick]

General Thimaiayya had the foresight to understand that the domestic politics of Indian democracy will be no match for the Chinese autocracy, hence his idea of dealing the Chinese through negotiations still hold valid as of today

[@t5ruxlee210]

General K. S. Thimayya was an experienced, successful, combat officer in WW2. Like him in his day, the best of them become very protective of their lower ranks who are trying their best and often dying horrible deaths for a hundred different reasons no one stuck at the front can get corrected. When they finally close in on the source of their difficulties, they seldom mince words.

[@raoplns]

No...when forces are fighting in field, what matters is who wants to win....there are not politics on the field.....

[@SonOf_Monotheist_Supreme_Being]

@@raoplns Bro forces on ground fights on the orders of politicians also

[@adityarajeshwakade8279]

@@raoplns ladai k complications k barey mein pata nai kuch bas bakchodi karna h keyboard pe

[@brijesh1998]

The truth is that after the coup in Pakistan, Indian politicians were scared that the Army in India may do a similar thing as all the Generals of both armies were actually comrades before partition. Hence the systematic degradation of the Indian Army by the politicians. Please remember that against all odds the Indian Army has remained the last bastion of the country and has not failed its people. Please talk about the soldiers who fought to the last bullet and man.

[@vishwajitbopanna266]

True you know what you are saying actually was about to happen in 2009 because the then party in power was neglecting the army on purpose. And that Time the study came out that China's had the capability to come upto Hyderabad. But now the government is supporting the army and it's the best thing that has happened

[@harikrishnanr1971]

@@vishwajitbopanna266 And those same fools are now doing some stupid yatra

[@MrPraveensagar]

Indian Generals were issuing political statements & coups sponsored by CIA were rife in Asia...naturally politicians were nervous..vn Indian General was praising pakis dictators , Nehru smartly made him ambassador to Australia & shipped him out of country. When it's nations interest, we should remember, General or politicians don't matter. What's important & right, has to be done

[@magnusnotcarlsen3241]

There was always a possibility of coup. So there were some good reforms to keep army under civilian government. It's not recognised well today

[@ashwinbhat]

@@vishwajitbopanna266 That bit about the study suggesting the Chinese capability to reach Hyderabad has intrigued me. Who published the study? Could you please share some more information about that?

[@niveditamishra7021]

I know Krishna Menon played his role in lobbying with the British left during the war years and may have influenced Clement Atlee and his Labour Party, but as defence minister it was the pits. I wholeheartedly would welcome changing the name of Krishna Menon marg. As an army officer's daughter, just the thought of this man as India's defence minister is revolting. I am surprised to know that Gen. Thimayya was confiding in the British High Commissioner in Delhi, but for most parts, I am grown up with tremendous admiration for the man. BN Kaul and PN Thapar be damned.

[@anvithkulkarni3714]

It’s as told by Mr Gupta no evidence as such it’s more like whitewashing nehru

[@sekhariyer3980]

PN Thapar is the father of another MF called Karan Thapar

[@shubhamkumar6689]

@@sekhariyer3980 Romila thapar is also related to them.

[@piyushsingh8399]

@@shubhamkumar6689 cousin

[@dineshpratapupadhyay6583]

What about Gen. JN Chaudhary who was moonlighting as a journalist in a British newspaper?

[@ashokkumartripathi6836]

The entire responsibility for 1962 defeat goes to Nehru. He made VK Krishna Menon defence minister and promoted intrigues among top military commanders via PN Thapar , the worst soldier India has ever had. In turn Nehru had a very unpleasant end of his political life.

[@tejesheconomics4072]

😂😂...Nehru tried to make the Army as weak as possible...That is why We don't have any coups like PAKISTAN OR BANGLADESH OR MYNMAR OR SRILANKA.....We paid it for 1962 loss

[@SAMARTHSAMANT]

A bigger reason was general BG kaul . He was most loved guy of nehru. He blindly pursued forward policy despite forward commanders warned him

[@lifeinaspiral]

Gen Pran Nath Thapar was related to Nehru. I doubt he was made General. He Shamelessly made Ambassador to Afghanistan after losing the war😅

[@avsbiyani]

Ohh shut up arsehole

[@anantsahay9340]

This proves the point that the British controlled India long time after 15th August 1947; and continue to do so in the minds of the Lutyens.

[@bittoochatterjee2661]

My Mother's Eldest Brother A 1947 Commissioned Officer In The Flying Branch Of Indian Air Force As A Wing Commander In The Year Of 1962 Had Participated ... Fought In This Sino India War / Indo China War of 1962. He ( Mamajee ) Wii Always Remain in My Mind & Heart Fore Ever .❤❤🌹🌹😊😊😍😍 Proud Of Him

[@dineshpratapupadhyay6583]

You have surprised me because so far as I know, the Indian Air Force was not used in the Sino-Indian war....

[@vijinravi1765]

@@dineshpratapupadhyay6583 yes IAF was deployed for air dropping supplies and that went on to be a failure as army failed to collect it.

[@dineshpratapupadhyay6583]

@@vijinravi1765, Chatterjee said that his cousin fought in this. My response to him was in that context.

[@vijinravi1765]

@@dineshpratapupadhyay6583 ok,you are right in a way there was no combat ops from IAF because of the fear about chinese reactions thanks for replay ❤🇮🇳👍

[@anujkr4226]

Really? Did IAF even participated in 1962 war? I think you're confusing it with 1965 🙄.

[@patriot4413]

Nehru was the biggest strategic failure India had which changed the Indian history for ever. The Partition, The Kashmir problem and the Humiliation by China. Three big blots on his life and still he was the most respected leader, why? Indira Gandhi was by far the best leader when it comes to Strategic decisions for India.

[@desigulal]

The hindu kings were spineless , supremely selfish and allowed muslim invasion. Had they stayed united and thwarted the invaders , we wouldn't be in the situation we are in right now. Nehru just inherited the mess after centuries of slavery our ancestors brought upon us . My blood boils when i see people taking pride in things like "India has never invaded any other country". These spineless MFs didnt even unite against the barbarians and allowed loot and plunder for a 1000 yrs

[@tejesheconomics4072]

Nehru is a man of peace who was thrown into this mess....He is a kashmiri who can't see his fellow Kashmiris getting killed so went to UN... Partition is not his mistake because it is Patel who advised him to get it done ....China war is Nehru mistake....because he trusted his Defence minister without questioning him not once

[@vedashriram39]

Isn't the same General Thapar, responsible for the defeat of the Indian army at the hands of the Chinese? Isn't he the father of the so called Journo Karan Thapar? Isn't he the uncle of the greatest historian Romila Thapars uncle? The lineage speaks for itself!!!

[@jollythomas3328]

Sssshhh!!😊☺️☺️💐👍

[@vedashriram39]

@Sumeet tanwar truly said

[@kannandesikan573]

Historian? Greatest ? Joke of the century.

[@asimsehanobis2094]

ON THE DOT.NEHRU WAS ALSO NOT GOOD AT NEGOTIATION,AS SEKHAR GUPTA WANTS US TO BELIEVE.HE WAS OBSESSED WITH HINDI-CHINI BHAI,BHAI.ONE ORDNANCE VICTORY IN W.BENGAL WAS MANUFACTURING HURRICANE LANTERNS IN PLACE OF WEAPONS.

[@harminderkaur4994]

Gen PN THAPAR expelled , Krishna menon , pannikar , Vijay laxmi Pandit, roles should be explained, leftist openly supported China tell also , harkrishan surjeet , jyoti basu were jailed, RSS wAs asked parade in 1963 republic day parade, tell how nehru panicked and pissed asked for US help,, help arrived in form of transport aircraft piloted by American pilots for transportation of army troops, maps , intelligence information

[@parvadhami980]

Please write in a coherent way

[@ramugoudar7772]

He won't dig his comrades grave, he is a lutyens journalist. He is articulately hiding Nehru's failure and blaming it on Indian army.

[@sesh7357]

Amazing the way Shekhar tells the story with a straight face! It's really hilarious!

[@vinayakphadke522]

This Genaral thapar was father of karan thapar ? It shows !

[@Captain_Sosuke_Aizen]

does the disgraced Romila thapar has anything to do with them?

[@Raghuram_2894]

She's his niece

[@Captain_Sosuke_Aizen]

@@Raghuram_2894 Oh the whole family of Hindu hating neheruvian elitist loosers!. This family is one reason for the trashed Hindu confidence even after British has left us!. wow 1 family. Its always a few people who does the damage of 1000000s most of the time. (reverse also is true)

[@Raghuram_2894]

@@Captain_Sosuke_Aizen I agree mate. There are even reports Indira Gandhi was corrupt and funded by Soviet to be socialists. It's all in 'Mithrokan files' by an ex-kgb agent who immigrated to US. He speaks of Indian bureaucracy was infiltrated by CIA and KGB. Besides do you know that Nehru was influenced by Mohammad Habib who's the father of Irfan Habib who's known Left ideologue along with Romila Thapur known to lie about Ram Mandir of Ayodhya. Even SC called them on lies.

[@shubhamkumar6689]

It would be surprising to you that thapar family is related to Nehru family too. There are few more such families who are related to each other and held powerful positions in establishment and intellectual groups.

[@user-hb7lc1jw1h]

With people of weak character and low confidence who were in awe of the Britishers and looked down upon the less anglicized Indians, it was obvious that BN Kauls would be given credence over a Gen Thimayya or Thorat. Poor quality political leadership lead to poor quality Generals who realised that the way to ascend to next level is through politicking and back biting. Clearly that’s what the generals started to do resulting in a deadly combination for India - v poor political generals, a third rate Def Minister Krishna Menon and a poor quality sychophant PM

[@dineshpratapupadhyay6583]

Majority of the generals were like that...

[@krishnamowar9950]

You have made many stories about Thimayya based on inputs from a Congress leader fromSouth. Thimmaya became a chief because of his outstanding performance in 1948 against PAK specially in Zozilla , and later in Korea. And Nehru was very impressed by him. Kaul was Guilty man No 1, Krishna Menon No 2 and Nehru No3. Indian army ( officer cadre) wasn’t very professional at that time and very inadequately equipped. Nehru was totally misled and tricked by Mao Tse Tung.

[@chaksh]

You mean Zee Dong. Tung was dead!!

[@VijayPatil-tz3cr]

Nehru was very generous towards Chinese and a very big buffoon who created all kinds of mess. 1. 1950 India recognized the PRC. 2. 1951 China & Russia excluded, so India didn't sign Japan peace treaty. Citing China and Russia are not signing. 3. 1954 Sino-Indian treaty broke China's Korean War isolation. India declares a friendship treaty with China. 4. Treaty renounced Indian claims to Tibet. 5.On top of it Nehru recognised China's sovereignty over Tibet under International law. Once you recognised someones sovereignty under International law it can't be undone.

[@brijesh1998]

Nehru though that the country didn't need an Army. Please research the systematic degradation of the Indian Army starting from the early 50s. Ordinance factories started manufacturing cutlery. The Indian Army which was one of the best in the world just after Independence was slowly reduced to nothingness. Our diplomacy was pathetic and our politicians couldn't put their money where their mouth was. The deplorable conditions in which our men fought is unprecedented. In a democracy, the Political class has to state the intent, facilitate the Military and they will do their task.

[@BeE_AriyaN]

The country really missed Netaji like figure on those days. Better or worse, experience always serves you good.

[@shodhitgoyal6539]

@kunal kumar Who told you we have lost any territory whatsoever?

[@SKumar-kp7fq]

@@shodhitgoyal6539 What makes you think that we haven't lost territory in 2020?

[@rravisankar3355]

@@SKumar-kp7fq We lost territory to China during 1959-62. Nothing in 2020 as certain political leanings bugle out! So relax 😉

[@AMITKUMAR-bv7qm]

@@SKumar-kp7fq Because there's no confirmation from Indian Army. I can rely on my army's statement and I truly believe on them. Our army is not in the situation what they were in 1962. China also knows very well what consequences they have to face if they try to capture territory. If country like Ukrain sustain a war against mighty Russia then India is in far stronger position to counter China effectively and geography in many areas also strengthens our position.

[@AjitJoshi686]

Gen P N Thapar is Dad of Karan Thapar and related to JNU History Goddess.

[@RP027]

Literally harming this country is their family business

[@purushottamsingi7974]

Some time later,research and let your viewers know why airforce was not used in 1962. A Major, probably his name ends as Bakshi, a two time MC, did a lot of survey of Chinese built up in Eastern Ladakh and reported these to top Army/ Airforce and even to the then Defence Minister. This gentleman, since last heard, was alive till the first lock out, lived in Andheri area of Mumbai.

[@laitmagnani1525]

All the politics in the government & army headquarters lead to the loss of Aksai Chin while our Soliders fought bravely to the last bullet & heroically laid down their lifes in the line of duty.

[@jollythomas3328]

I'm not surprised that Karan Thapar's dad headed the Army that time...Which self-respecting officer makes his son a journo 😊☺️💐

[@hansikursch484]

The Indian Army today is dearly missing a capable leader like Mr. Manekshaw. He would suffer no fools in the government or the rot in the mil. hierarchy.

[@chanakyabharat756]

Shekarji with all respect request you to control Hunduphobic articles from Vir Sanghvi, Hindus are already facing hard time in UK, US, Canada and people like Vir are adding fuel to rising Hunduphobia.

[@captaindunsel2806]

Stop raping people. Problem solved.

[@chanakyabharat756]

@Sumeet tanwar they will care if we stop taking subscriptions and flag videos as hatred, we are too busy to just press that button.

[@chanakyabharat756]

@Sumeet tanwar Netflix thought same but finally changed when subscriptions came down and had to reduce wokeism, remember ultimately these folks want to make money and have to mend ways if they do loses.

[@yoursetc]

Naming a road after Krishna Menon is nauseating, the great choice will of course be any of our brave soldier who laid their lives in that unequal war

[@koibatnahi4683]

What a mess we had. It is scary to think that the country's defence was at mercy of such leaders. The common soldiers and low wrung officers protected our land with their lives. Zara yaad Karo qurbani..

[@NeelanjanBandyopadhyay]

PN THAPAR is father of Karan Thapar.

[@erwinmasusu4342]

And also closely related to Romilla Thapar, the Hindu hating “secular” leftist historian of JNU.

[@bikashjha70]

Gen JN chaudhari was moonlighting 😂😂 ..awesome sir

[@ranjitpal9937]

Let's Not Change History BUT Build New Roads And Name Them After War Hero's

[@raoplns]

Thanks for sharing. It is leader who needs to pick right person for a job. Nehru utterly failed....it is a pity we still revere Nehru an Gandhi, the very destroyers of our nation.

[@shivprasadjoshi5280]

Also, nobody should forget that Indian Air Force was not used by Nehru, the chief architect of Chinese Victory.😡

[@ragilabonix]

Non sense. What fighter planes did we have. What is the ceiling and endurance. Where all did we have base. There is no way our aircraft will be able to get to the border and get back, every launch will be a crash . It was prudent, not using airforce.. Please don’t claim to know more than the generals then sitting in2022.

[@shivprasadjoshi5280]

@@ragilabonix Nehru had said I do not want to escalate.. Also compared to the Chinese we had power enough to destroy their attacking army. Also our airports were very close to the border. Even today our airforce has an edge because of the same. Also please read The Himalayan Blunder by Major John Dalvi, a book banned 7 times by successive Congress Governments.

[@parcgup]

Thapar was rewarded with foreign service position by Nehru. even after 1962

[@ree888]

Thank you for a most interesting story about our motherland’s history. I couldn’t help but draw analogy with the startup world.. when everyone is just driving various functions of the business in their own manner. There’s chaos, personnel choices are driven largely by the personality/proximity/like ability of the founder(s). And those personnel bring in their own style of processes, rules (or lack thereof) till such a time the startup matures sufficiently. Until that maturity is achieved, the mission/vision document (constitution, in case of the country and government) is simply a cosmetic document although put together with greatest passion and sacredness. I’m glad we’re in the highly evolved phase of our country now and can reflect and critique and learn from the past… hopefully good lessons will come out of the past! 🇮🇳 🌎

[@ZEEsales-r8w]

Brilliant story telling as always.

[@piyushsingh8399]

story telling?

[@Anuzyx]

Thanks! fascinating history

[@ThePrintIndia]

Dear Anurag Thank you for contributing to our journalism. Happy to note you liked this video.

[@oneworldoneworld7013]

Menon was a disgrace. Nehru had delusions of grandeur re. China. India continues to suffer this debacle. The general talking to the BHC compromises security as the UK is selfish then as it is now. Governance was at failure. Has the Indian system learnt? A shameful period of India. China recognised this and played their card. This continues today.

[@sreekantaniyer8744]

All the responsibility for 1962 debacle lies with our worst PM Nehru. His tean like Menon were equally pathetic. Govt never supported Army by providing necessary equipment and manpower. It is unfortunate we still celebrate Nehru. This guy was also responsible for Kashmir and NE problem. Stop supporting congress party and support Modi.

[@anitaparveen675]

Nehru gave Akshi chin to china as a gift stating not a blade of grass grows there. But he could not get Noble prize

[@nitovatorsnitj]

Reading about these histories, mistakes and corrections, we realize how far we have come and and how far we yet have to go to be called a mature nation.

[@krishnamoorthygopalan583]

SG is silent and soft on General Thapar who was shown up as an incompetent man. Maybe SG and his soft corner for Karan Thapar was the reason.

[@rahulitrc]

And their descendants is saying that Modi is afraid of China. Hahahaha

[@achyutsingh]

Congratulations for crossing 2M subs

[@ThePrintIndia]

Thank you so much, Achyut!

[@devshetty7465]

No wonder he has son like karan Thapar

[@agonnoga6100]

If Thimayya indeed said Indian Army cannot protect India from China then he is not only the worst chief of Army but also the most incompetent. The British left behind a massive Army which was primarily used to subjugate the natives and fight colonial wars. In 2nd world war, British India Army was the largest all volunteer Army. The Chinese didn't have an effective airforce in 1962 and the infrastructure to supply troops over the vast inhospitable Tibetan plateau were rudimentary at best. China could never win any long drawn battle with India purely for geographical reason. This is true even today with massive Chinese infrastructure across LAC.

[@coffeehornet810]

Yes Indian army was strong however the logistical problems caused by changing equipment precurement from britain to soviets done by Krishna Menon had reduced our air power by a lot then there's also the fact that Menon had also caused havoc in the officer corps through his political appointment we won't be fighting at the seas. In 1962 chinese economy was almost equal to us but where we were spending less than >2% of our gdp on the military the chinese were spending upwards of 10% and Nehru Menon were not going to let the military fight by themselves not to mention unlike China we had to worry about pakistan we would essentially have the north east completely cut off and lose kashmir as well as parts of punjab. Of course in reality Pakistan never invaded but you still have to account for these things.

[@dhananjaymetangley8365]

It was great failure of Nehru and Menon they didn't allow Airforce to fly and do the job, China was poorer than us, they didn't have Airforce like ours. It's Nehru the Last British Prime Minister ruled the Nation. Most Undeserving Man

[@sankalp6872]

I think they should make the Henderson Brooks-Bhagat Report public. It's a democracy. The public is entitled to such information even if it's embarrassing. It will help us reflect upon are failing and enforce ACCOUNTABILITY on public offices.

[@kallachi729]

Worth a revisit.Among all the incompetence “squabbling Generals” rankles. The Army fought bravely. And therein lies the irony. Tailpiece: The Q is have we leant a lesson? Can we have an MOD filled with those not in Uniform, without doubtful knowledge on National security issues? Just asking. Security of a Nation against external threats has to be handled by a combination of diplomats, bureaucrats, Defence persons in service et al. working in unison as a team. MOD is that team. I do not see the media, security e perks et al debating this issue.

[@sanjayshekar9911]

Do not tarnish image of General Thimmaya. Whatever general might have allegedly shared with the British was known to everyone openly in Lutyens Delhi.

[@rudreshacharrudresh1836]

Congress mouth piece

[@vivekanandholla6730]

Thank you for the information

[@ThePrintIndia]

Thanks for tuning in, Vivekanand. Always so heartening to see your comments!

[@awadheshkalia]

Interesting snippets of Indian history. This was known in bits and pieces. Stitched together in a sequence, it gives a clearer picture.

[@ArjunYadav-oe5zn]

Please increase the volume in video

[@ankurchaudhary3515]

This defeat tells us , security of the country should be hold paramount over anything, even cult leadership. Nehru was a good intellectual activist but not a cunning leader who can make shit done .. whether on economic front , city planning , educational institutions, R&D and military. This country failed in all aspects since 70 years of Leftist-Congress alliance.

[@parvadhami980]

"Idea of India" folks

[@FullHD-ng2mg]

What about Nehru? Nehru considered China as friend and undermined threat from China. He tried to be friendly with China and it is claimed that he offered United Nations permanent seat which was initially offered to India. Also relied on incompetent Military Generals and Defence Personnel

[@sujithkumar2041]

I know a PM who visited 🇨🇳 most number of times than any other PM, been the guest of Chinese Prez more than any other PM. Got on to swing with him. Still he ended up being his 21 soldiers killed by 🇨🇳 and took away a chunk of his territory. He still denies anything happened. No prize for guessing 😅

[@FullHD-ng2mg]

@@sujithkumar2041 120000 sq kilometres were lost to China Then Prime Minister said in the parliament - Not a blade of grass grows there

[@Aashutosh_Payaal28]

​@@FullHD-ng2mgthe statement that you have quoted here was said on 5 December 1961. Also the context was different. So Nehru did not use it as excuse

[@FullHD-ng2mg]

@@sujithkumar2041 Nehru wanted to be friends with China and Nehru refused to have. Military for India His Philosophy was to please China so that he acknowledged Tibet Deal with China in a hope that China will never attack China As gesture of friendship he offered UN seat to China which was initially offered to India by Americans

[@kalpeshsanghvi5901]

Last line I fully agree change name of Krishna Memon marg👍🏻

[@KunalBESRA27]

Read The Himalayan Blunder by Brig JP Dalvi.

[@2945antonio]

Mr Gupta, this episode confirmed to me a long held suspicion I had about the High Command of the Indian Forces; imagine a General moonlighting for a newspaper, another sharing classified information with a British diplomat, a third bad mouthing his colleague, you name it, the perfidy of these individuals is mind boggling. That was in the 1960s, has it changed? I do not think so, the individuals at the helm of the Forces give me the impression of being careerists first and foremost and soldiers somewhere down the line. Otherwise, how can one explain a General suing the Government because of a dispute about his retirement age ? Or imagine my consternation when I was visiting India a few years ago and a school friend of mine telling me that two young men from the North of India had come to his shop asking for a job as watchmen; he did not have one, but, seeing they were really fit, asked them why did they not join the Forces. With a wry smile they said - Sahib, it takes a baksheesh to get accepted (they mentioned the equivalent of over a year's salary, an amount I forget now)!. I could not believe it. Imagine the impact of this on the morale! of the Jawans! If this is the prevailing culture, it certainly does not stop there rather, it is reflective of a profound malaise that is gnawing at the entrails of the organization at multiple levels ; and that clubby culture you mention, it is well and truly very much alive, i venture. It pains me to say this. I hear - Oh, now we are better equipped, etc, etc! It is a fallacy Morale MUST come first, materiel ,training and the rest, follows. Thank You.

[@rd3030]

Sir you forgot to mention that Gen Thapar was appointed Chief because he was related to Pt Nehru through his wife

[@MrPraveensagar]

When we lose war, we blame PM, when we win war, we credit to Generals....1962 & 1971, Nehru & Indira Gandhi, Sam manekshaw

[@gvijaychandu8720]

Nehru was definitely not fit to rule our country. He was careless and made wrong decisions in most fields. He was interested only popularity but very very unintelligent in ruling our country Bharat🕉️ JAI BHARAT🎉JAI MODIJI🎉JAI YOGIJI🎉🎉🎉

[@Drganguli]

Decolonisation of the Indian mind is an ongoing process but in 1962 it had not yet begun!

[@sudarshanchavan6698]

There's an interview of Gen Manekshaw on KZbin claiming that Indira Gandhi had asked him directly that is it true that she heard about the Army wants to takeover the govt? Today I got to know even Nehru had the same fear! What an insecure and power hungry class of family!

[@pramodkulkarni3747]

Thanks Shankar bahi. We need this . What a mess Nehru and kabal.

[@gauravh4337]

Was it just seniority or his relationship with Nehru family. Pran thapar's wife and vijaylaxmi pandit's (Nehru's sister) son in law were siblings...

[@Movieplaytoon306]

1962 is the war of humiliation...every Indian want to forget....

[@ktheeagle5742]

See despite the fact that it was humiliating defeat, we should never forget it. Instead should always try to learn from every single mistakes and also missed opportunities. Defeat is the ultimate lesson to learn from. Also we should not forget this war like others is because many soldiers died fighting bravely.

[@hanfucolorful9656]

@@ktheeagle5742 The lesson is 【mess up with Russia is dangerous, mess up with China is fatal】😇, time to turn the page my friend, BYD - SUV already arrived in India last week， will have a hot sale, just like the Chinese phones, let's work together to push the BMW and TOYOTA out of the market.

[@bindruk4321]

@@hanfucolorful9656 We already messed with you about 4 times after 1962 , each time since you have run like bunnies when you saw a well prepared army. Better hope we don't go into Tibet . When that happens like in the Boxer wars , your country will be permanently broken into little pieces

[@abhijitdatta7796]

Awesome episode

[@libshastra]

Do CBSE textbooks cover post Independence India in detail? I think it's high time we start talking more about 62 than the freedom movement

[@parvadhami980]

They won't as then Politics would come into play

[@aktale]

Hearing this, it makes me realize how much GODs Hand was there in shaping India. One slight step here or there and we would have had a very different past.

[@nandanrajeev2452]

It's very easy to point fingers at Nehru and Krishna Menon but they were the real architects of modern India along with Ambedkar. The institutions of democracy Nehru spearheaded defines modern India. Even today, India remains a single entity because of Nehru and Ambedkar.

[@poras1513]

Sir, you make videos of 30 minutes only, like you used to make earlier, in which you used to give your valuable comments on multiple topics... 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@ThePrintIndia]

Dear Poras, Thank you for your feedback.

[@mathsforallgeneration]

All people chosen by Nehru for top posts like Krishna Menon as defence minister or PC Mahbolonis as economic advisor were great idiots and ruined India both in terms of defence and economics

[@BharatThatIsIndia]

Kaul was a shame on the legacy of the Indian Army

[@Romain-kq4ge]

do think of a commentary on the kantara phenomenon and reasons behind this movie taking the country by strom..and the lesson populist politician can draw from the downfall of Lizz Truss are we also breeding likes of such in some states in India.

[@SajidKhan-mf8ts]

The Indian Express : 8 former Indian Navy officers, working for Qatar company, being held in Doha The former Navy officers worked for a company called Dahra Global Technologies and Consultancy Services, The Indian Express has learnt. ( lets see what Mr. Shekhar Gupta has to say...... dont forget another indian naval officer Kalbhoshan in Pakistan prison )

[@jagdishramanathan2091]

in my opinion when Krishna Menon was high commisioner of India in London Chinese ladies were frequently photographed with him . Could it have been a honey trap because after he left London he had become India born china foreign minister .he was a bachelor just like his father as one Indian army general stated .

[@emge02]

Very lucid and clear. I still feel Maneckshaw did not deserve to be the chief and he won the war on the back of Lt Gen JS Aurora. Also, you should have highlighted that Thimayya became chief after superseding Two Sikh generals. This is important and shows a subtle undercurrent against Sikhs at that time. Otherwise well done.

[@wrathin100]

Mr. S. Gupta has completely overlooked the rumour of Krishnamenons liasson with a Soviet Union secretary who had informed him that Chou enlai would attack India but Menon chose to keep this fact from the cabinet and even Nehru. Menon knew of, from his lover from the Soviet union high commission a secretary in Britain when Menon himself was the high commissioner from india to Britain, these are rumours from that time, some saw the light of day in the papers but the rest was suppressed. But as per allegations menon knew of the chinese attack at least 6 to 8 months before it took place but did not report back to his masters in Delhi. As stated these are allegations never delved into. S. Gupta as a serious journalist can do so or should do so.

[@ratnajothinavaratnamtknr9471]

TKNR.THANKS FOR THE EXPOSURE.THE BIG MISTAKE THAT WAS MADE BY MR. NEHRU THE WHOLE BHARAT INDIA IS FACING NOW TO UPLIFTING AS THE NUMBER ONE PEACEFUL ADVANCED NATION.

[@user-gd7gh9ro7p]

First culprit was army (its there job to fight), second culprit was political leadership mainly Nehru. His greed for becoming world leaders over hard power.

[@drap3872]

Yes, I agree with the name of Maj Saitan Singh.

[@rakeshrathore1711]

Nehru, krishna Menon, Gen PN Thaper and BM Kaul. These four persons are responsible for India's defeat.

[@Vidhi_Sammat]

India was and still is, a banana republic. McIver said, 'Indian constitution is a lawyer's paradise '.

[@singhis1972]

Shekhar Gupta as senior journalist is master in telling half truths especially about General PN Thapar. Why didn’t you tell the audience that Gen Thapar’s wife was closely related to PM Nehru . And 2 years after resigning as COAS in 1962 , General Thapar was Ambassador to Afghanistan from 1964 to 1969 . Get over your old habit Shekhar Gupta ji … recall your infamous story in putting Elite India Army in bad light by that stinking Front page Story of “ coup” . Grow up Mr Lutyens Media Congress favorite jurno. Tell all Karan Thapar another your type is son of disgraced 1962 War COAS General PN Thapar .Jai Hind , Vetearn Colonel Manmeet Singh , SM ( Gallantry) with 40 years of proud service with our elite Indian Army . I am 68 years now and recall all your reports from my younger days . Change yourself.

[@pralhadhanamshet9904]

India top political brass was not of want war, think war, prepare for war, do war mentality type. They were much wanted to become World's Statesmem personalities added the top military brass was anglicised and elitist rather than being battle hardened war shrewd General's. What a perfect cocktail for failure.

[@ianwilson8759]

You need to follow the money and the politics. Krishna Menon wasn't far left, he was a communist, with MI5 labelling him a serious menace to (British) security. You might also mention that he was directly involved in the first major corruption case in the newly formed Republic of India over the procurement of army Jeeps (follow the money, follow the politics). The senior ranks of the Indian army and air force were also almost entirely corrupt through arms and equipment procurements. Do you know why India shifted to Soviet arms and equipment? It's because the Russians were just as corrupt. Witness Russia's humiliation in Ukraine; nothing changes. Any idea why the families of all those generals and air marshals are so fabulously wealthy when they were paid an absolute pittance in their salary? How come the Nehru family is so wealthy? It's not easy to focus on winning wars when your main interest is making money.

[@mady8322]

Dear The Print Team, Kindly make a correction at 5:47 The caption says Menon whereas it should be Thimayya

[@aruna2034]

Dear why no show on Recent Congress president Mallikarjun Karge?

[@astert7123]

Correct krishmenon marg name should be changed

[@inde279]

Interesting!

[@rajeshhariharan7575]

5:45 ... isn't that a typo? Gen Thimmya was sharing the info with his neighbor - right?

[@मगरमच्छ]

War was lost in delhi not in aksai chin..

[@vijaypatil-mv6ke]

P. N.Thapar was a coward.

[@peacelogic5286]

This is the reason you are ahead in the game

[@myultracrepidarianism]

These ads are unfair. I am paying for youtube. Either you have a subscription-like newslaundry or take the youtube ads. This is unacceptable.

[@msingh683]

clearly PN thappar responsible for Military misfortune in 1962 war.

[@pranavr9783]

1962 a crazy year. both china and india anexed land (tibet 1959, goa 1961), they looked at himalaya when nepal placed it current flag in constitution , nepalrecieved first trade blockade from india, british responded by making nepal king field marshal of entire british army year 1962. china invade india the news recived by neru in kathmandu nepal (for diplomacy as his goverment did the trade ban), india krisna meon went to uk to solve any issue. India just ended Portugal rule over goa (451 year history). So internationally if india can initate war , it can also defend. the mindset was crazy .

[@amitpatil3702]

In all this explanation you underestimated great contribution of Mr.Y.B. CHAVHAN I SIMPLY FEEL THAT

[@anonymous-dn4xw]

Sir, it is our request to u to do a cut the clutter on Netaji Subhash chander Bose and mystery surrounding his death, the declassified files on Netaji life

[@rajkumara8388]

Which book you are referring to? The one written by Jairam Ramesh?

[@RG-un2vl]

Krishna Menon’s history before he came to India,his meeting with Nehru during Nehru’s 1927 trip to Europe is pretty dubious as well and for a large part responsible for the China fiasco later on.Gen.Thapar’s appointment as chief is also part of the corruption that was going on.What a mess by Nehru and company.This is what happened when a rabid ideology like Krishna Menon’s communism and hence blind China alignment found a narrow minded,egoistical and dependent leader in Nehru to railroad a military operation we could have won.And at the cost of our soldiers lives and sovereignty of the country.I mean they died because they ran out of ammunition!!!! While these leaders were busy filling their coffers and getting their egos massaged by the Chinese leadership.What utter shortsightedness.And in spite of being warned by various people.Thank god the likes of Nehru,Menon and Thapar were gone and people like Gen Sam Manekshaw were heading the army in ‘65 and ‘71.Shudder to think of the consequences otherwise.Shekhar Gupta as usual is buttering both sides of the bread at the same time:))

[@Aashutosh_Payaal28]

Nehru's strategic decision to foster friendly relations with China in the 1950s was undoubtedly wise, given the geopolitical complexities of the era. Aligning with the Western Bloc could have risked confrontation, especially with the backdrop of the Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship in 1950. Nehru's foresight in believing that China would not attack India was rooted in the understanding that a conflict could escalate into a global confrontation, considering the ongoing Taiwan Strait Crisis and the potential intervention of major powers like the USA. However, the tragic events of 1962 revealed a miscalculation on Nehru's part regarding China's response to India's forward policy. The attack by China exploited the aftermath of the Cuban Missile Crisis, where the superpowers were cautious about interfering in regional conflicts. While Nehru's vision for diplomatic engagement with China was sound, the failure to anticipate Chinese aggression and the delayed modernization of India's military with potential Western support were critical missteps.

[@RG-un2vl]

​​​​@@Aashutosh_Payaal28Nehru was not particularly wise about taking the right advice from the right experts. It is known that he preferred to surround himself with yes men who would stoke his ego and then get their way through him. Another example being Sheikh Abdullah and the Kashmir/UN fiasco.And the pathetic handling of the military once the China war started,like firing existing officials and then appointing unqualified generals like Thapar.The Chinese threat was not lost on other leaders, including those within the Congress. There is a very poignant letter that sardar Patel wrote to Nehru about the China problem right before his death which Nehru completely ignored. As did other leaders like Savarkar who he personally did not like. Nehru was under the influence of communism from a very early time and only settled for socialism in India because the other would not have worked. Aligning with the West became an impossibility much later. Immediately after independence It was India that refused her UN security council seat which Nehru deferred to China. A colossal mistake if there ever was one. Also the Sino Russian pact would not have made much difference because we did ultimately align with Russia after the Chinese war. If the pact was of any consequence India should not have allowed Russia to mess with its politics either. The problem was not the politics but Nehru's personal belief in communism which led him to not consider any other option.

[@Aashutosh_Payaal28]

@@RG-un2vlSardar Patel's letter suggested That India should align with the Western powers and break ties with China. Let us examine What would have happened then 1.) China would have been alienated and would likely have launched a pre emptive attack on India. 2.) USA, of course would have supported India in this situation. 3.) But USSR would have supported China due to 1950 treaty between them 4.) India would have been forced into a extremely prolonged and destructive war in 1950 (just when India became a republic) So supporting tibet in this situation would have been disastrous. Instead India sought to abandon it's support for tibet in exchange for Chinese acceptance of McMohan Line. And as it turns out, China actually accepted McMohan Line. It had all to do with Aksai Chin through which China began constructing a road to connect Xinjiang with Yarkand. If you read letters between Nehru and Zhou from 1958-1960 you would realise that Zhou was willing to accept McMohan line if India would not protest against Chinese control over Aksai Chin. But Nehru rejected this offer when Zhou came to meet in March 1960. The mistake which Nehru made was misjudgment of Chinese reaction to forward policy. China was dealing with Taiwan strait crisis in late 1950s. Nehru felt that China would not react aggressively to forward policy as it is more concerned with Taiwan crisis. So the forward policy was ill equipped. China and USSR fell out in early 1960s. Meanwhile from 16-28 October 1962 there was Cuban Missile Crisis. With America already facing a huge danger to its national security, China felt that this was the right opportunity to launch an invasion. Think about it... Why didn't China attack India in 1959, 1960 or 1961? Because it had fallen out with USSR and USA would have help India in case China launched an invasion. So China was at backfoot during this entire time and that's why offered diplomatic negotiations. But at the right opportunity, it striked India, for which India was not prepared for. Due to these circumstances in 1950s, Nehru felt that prospect of Chinese invasion is not likely. How could he have predicted a cuban Missile crisis of 1962? There was no question of India ever getting a UNSC permanent seat. It was a feeler given by US to India to replace China (already a member) with India. It would require an amendment to charter of UN. USSR would have vetoed it. So it would have had no consequence except alienation of China and USSR and prospect of Chinese invasion in early 1950s. Also your saying that Nehru was communist is a laughter material. In fact his government executed a heavy crackdown on Communist Attempt to overthrow Indian state in 1948. Several communists had to go to jail and even pro communist magazine Cross Roads was censored. Not only that, even Socialist parties like PSP and KMPP opposed several of Nehru's policies. Nehru had fascination for China because of historical friendship between two nations and their rich culture. He thought of Asian dominance period which would rival that of Anglo American. That being said, his policy of friendship towards Chinese was a better alternative than alignment with USA in early 1950s. PS : Nehru did not like to surround himself with yes-men. In fact, he had advisors like Homi Bhabha, Vikram Sarabhai, PC Mahalanobis, G Parathasarathi etc due to which have institutions that we can pride ourselves in.

[@RG-un2vl]

@@Aashutosh_Payaal28 There's more ways than one to handle the situation.As for the feared Russia China pact,they themselves fought a war in 1969 ,way before the pact ended.None of the things you have mentioned would have happened in that order.Like I said before,it was Nehru's shortsightedness and proclivity towards communism which dictated India's foreign policy ,not some well thought out strategy.And India has paid a heavy price for it,like the UNSC seat.Also Indian communism was heavily Chinese post WW2 as Russia was not interested in South Asia at the time Russia took over in the 60's.

[@Aashutosh_Payaal28]

@@RG-un2vl Things would have happened exactly the same way as I said. Alignment with the USA in early 1950s would have triggered a prolonged war which would have been much more disastrous than 1962 war. China just used Cuban Missile crisis opportunity to attack India. Since US was busy in getting soviet nuclear war heads removed from Cuba. As for UNSC seat, India was never formally offered one. It was a feeler, a bait by US to lure India into its camp. USSR would have vetoed the proposal anyway. Sino Soviet relations worsened in early 1960s due difference over marxism leninism. Before that their relations were cordial and USSR would have definitely supported China especially when India would have sought to befriend USA. Nehru made stratetic miscalculation in determining what would be Chinese reaction to forward policy. He felt that China, busy in dealing with Taiwan strait crisis, would not take any action across himalayas. Hence forward policy was ill equipped. China would not have launched an invasion of India in October 1962 had US not been busy in Cuban Missile crisis. Think about it : Why China did not attack from 1958-1962? They were just waiting for US to get busy in some other regional dispute.

[@dr.rajeevbhattacharya3244]

Shekhar Gupta represents exactly the North Indian Hindi-centrism and condescension toward the much greater cultures of the rest of India that contradict everything that is good about India, that makes the concept of India so very difficult for non-Hindi speaking people (like us) of Northeastern, Eastern, Western, Northwestern, or Southern India, that makes non-Hindi speaking people argue that the Hindi Belt is keeping India down and should secede from India. In addition to Mr. Gupta's terrible English enunciation (he is really speaking Hindi), he does not even have the respect to attempt to pronounce non-Hindi names properly; for example, "Chaudhuri" (as in General Jayanto Nath Chaudhuri) or "Chowdhury" in Assamese or Bengali has the distinct "u" vowel between the consonants "dh" and "r," "Rahman" (as in Sheikh Mujibur Rahman) has the distinct vowel "o" between the consonants "h" and "m," and Bangladesh is pronounced "Baanglaadesh" (with both extended "aa" vowels, soft consonants, and silent "g"), not the grotesquely ugly "Banggglaadesh" that this uneducated Hindi-centric person keeps saying. Mr. Gupta's ignorant and disrespectful attitude is the totally unjustified arrogance that made East Pakistan secede from West Pakistan. Here is an example instead of a nuanced, thoughtful, and respectful discussion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHjanYxmqZVoick. Mr. Gupta is a national embarrassment, especially for us highly educated Indian-Americans.

[@surendrapatel5787]

Nehru and menon r solely respinsible for debacle.

[@nilendunaharoy7676]

A good analysis but the list of guiltymen cannot be completed on failing to include the name of are so called 'chachcha Nehru' who in preceding years of the war exposed the defence preparations to the top notch of Chinese military leaders and made them believe about a confirmed victory over India following a disastrous humiliation....

[@rupesh673]

Will like to know just for theory if our military were in hands of Netaji's sena.... Shekhar sir if you can do an episode on it