Damn you guys seemed really tired. Hope whatever it is, it gets better. Stay strong guys, I love your channel.
@esimms18892 жыл бұрын
Vintage Modified hands down. I'm all about the Candy Apple Red with white pickguard and also the rosewood fingerboard. Indian laurel fingerboards feel and play fine but they're sooooooo thirsty for oil! Beyond that, I would use any Squier JM as a mod platform so the rest doesn't really matter to me. Thanks for the very thorough comparison!
@malfunction54482 жыл бұрын
Honestly, at this point, I have to admit that color is the primary deciding factor for me. If I were going to buy one of these, I'd go with the CV despite the thicker neck. For color: Shell Pink, Daphne Blue or Sonic Blue, in that order. What questions do y'all have for people with time machines. Asking for a friend.
@realxandercuck2 жыл бұрын
There is extremely strong scientific evidence that green guitars sound better than other guitars
@malfunction54482 жыл бұрын
@@realxandercuck "Tone is in the paint!"
@chidorirasenganz2 жыл бұрын
@@realxandercuck hmm that must be why I have a surf green tele and strat 😬
@craigbragg28422 жыл бұрын
As a lefty, I am just glad that both of these are available left-handed. The CV was my first offset, and it is the guitar I play the most now, by far.
@LordFuzzman2 жыл бұрын
VM always feels better to me 👌
@eertje012 жыл бұрын
The pickups aren't different at all. They both have rebranded roswell pickups in them. Look on the back of the pickups, they have the exact same product number on it! Both are from partsland Korea ✌️
@jazzjcook2 жыл бұрын
So glad to have my CV 60’s JM. I replaced the vibrato to an AVRI and shimmed the neck and did a bit of work to clean up the fret work and its been so fun to pick up and play! The bridge is starting to rattle, though I may have torqued it too much when I last adjusted it, and I’d like to dip my toes into some different pickups, but even with everything else stock, it feels like the most accurate JM for the price point. (Y’all stop making me drool over the J Mascis I can’t afford a new guitar 😭…)
@limaofarofa2 жыл бұрын
_Almost spat my beverage, Ecco (the dolphin) would be proud._
@rootsradical2 жыл бұрын
I love my VM. I don't even have issues with the bridge.
@draygosound2 жыл бұрын
I've often been tempted, but I've never been able to commit to a Jazzmaster. And what would my Jaguar think? The resulting offset-highlander battle would probably mess up my house.
@realxandercuck2 жыл бұрын
A Jazzmaster is basically a Jaguar with a Strat neck. They're incredibly similar
@mikegutterman34272 жыл бұрын
I have had both and I think the classic vibe is the better choice. The bridge, pickups, and nut are all improved for you. I also feel like the CV sounds more like how a Jazzmaster is supposed to sound.
@numero6285 Жыл бұрын
What about the neck, is it identical on the two models? (my question concerns the playability, not the difference of the woods used)
@mikegutterman3427 Жыл бұрын
@@numero6285 it has been several years since I had the Vintage Modified, but I feel like the classic vibe neck is pretty much the same except not being rosewood board.
@numero6285 Жыл бұрын
@@mikegutterman3427 Thanks a lot for your answer. I have the VM and the main thing that could make me regret not having chosen the CV would be a more ergonomic neck. Overall I think the CV is more qualitative and closer to a real Jazzmaster, but I also think the particular tone of the vintage modified is more what I like.
@mikegutterman3427 Жыл бұрын
@@numero6285 The VM's had hotter bridge pickups for sure. I wasn't a huge fan of that. I just got a CV jazzmaster and the neck is really fantastic on it. Maybe a little chunkier than the VM but I really can't remember my VM tbh! They are both great honestly. In the 90's I would have lost my mind to have such great affordable jazzmaster options!
@atomcatz692 жыл бұрын
I've had a vintage modified jaguar since 2016 it was the second guitar I ever bought... Loved that series so much I was so sad when the classic vibe series came out 😭😭💔🤦🏻♀️
@tomace69062 жыл бұрын
I tested Squier Jazz Masters against each other and against Fender Models and I ended up with the Classic Vibe. The build quality could be really an issue but if you find one with not too many flaws you will get what for my ears is that distinctive Jazz Master sound. Love this Guitar ! Thanks for all your videos on the the Jazz Masters!!!
@BathedInMilk2 жыл бұрын
I bought my VM Jazz back in 2016 and I love it. I am yet to try a CV version but I recently got a CV Mustang and that thing rips too. I'd argue you can't go too wrong with either and they are great value for money so if you find one cheaper get that one. They're superb modding platforms too. I just can't recommend the Squier stuff enough.
@manray71892 жыл бұрын
You could do what I did and get all the parts you want. I spent a total of $380 on mine. It has the j mascis neck and tuners, vintage modified body, avri 65 pickups, avri tremolo, mustang bridge, and fender electronics. I've had mine built for about 4 years now and I love it to death. The only guitar I'll ever really need to be honest (that won't stop me from getting others, but none have topped it for myself).
@WorkingClassMusic2 жыл бұрын
that sounds like a great custom build!
@backwater_j2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the demos and the playing, I would like a little more clarity in terms of which guitar was being played even if it's just a caption. The bridges are definitely a bigger deal on the Jag-scale guitars than the Jazzmasters, both series are very solid but overall I lean toward the Vintage Modified in general because I prefer the Duncan-designed to current Fender pickups... that said the Jazzmasters are really close so it may come down to personal peference for feel.
@987654321ck2 жыл бұрын
Squier is my favorite brand-best bang for buck. Love you guys
@MichaelWilliams-np6pd2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the channel I’ve been waiting for.
@oldmanzen66822 жыл бұрын
I'm still on my Jazzmaster search, and so greatly appreciate this video. I loved everything about the CM exclusive 50s Classic Vibe, but shipping and customs charges (I'm in Canada) would have brought it close to a MiM Fender, so I'm still holding out. Great work folks.
@gahangore1112 жыл бұрын
Tia always manages to absolutely slay the intro!! Also, Jazzmasters are amazing.
@westernfilet2 жыл бұрын
I dig your videos. Ever do or consider a video talking about those sweet amps back there? Cheers!
@realxandercuck2 жыл бұрын
It's coming. I've literally written essays about each one lol
@erickmo11882 жыл бұрын
Just got a new classic vibe jazzmaster from Gc for 350. Screaming deal… it gets better. Had Amazon points and picked up the AVRI 65 jazzmaster pickups for like $50.
@MrBeen9922 жыл бұрын
I went with the Classic 60s Vibes because ....cheaper deal. It arrives next week !
@johnbehan15262 жыл бұрын
Ok "Dunkin' " got me, and damnit, you got me again the second time.
@zachsmith33762 жыл бұрын
That's some serious sunn shine behind ya'll!
@realxandercuck2 жыл бұрын
It's always bright in our studio
@sixbladeknife44 Жыл бұрын
The VM was my first Jazzmaster, I bought it the first year they were released and really caught the offset bug. I have a some other Jazzmasters now including Wildwood Thinskin, Ame. Pro and MIJ Traditional, Mascis Squier. But I still have my older VM, it has a beautiful rosewood board and it’s always been a great player. Maybe not the best electronics or pups, but it still has a vibe about it that I love. I learned how to setup the vintage bridge correctly on that guitar and it’s never been much of an issue. I haven’t had the chance to try a CV version, but I’m sure they’re also very nice. Good stuff guys, dig your vids ✌️
@Ray56002 жыл бұрын
Proud owner of CV in daphne blue. Amazing guitar overall. Obviously, the temptation to mod it just a bit is getting real buuuut...
@sunn_bass2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I love the offset design of these. I kind of like a chunky neck so glad you guys detailed that.
@mcleroy19672 жыл бұрын
Great video. Plus one for the thrashers jersey! I have the J Mascis Jazzmaster, and it was a choice between that and the red VM. I’m glad you mentioned the differences in the bridge and bridge placement, I didn’t even realize that.
@ian.macnicol8 ай бұрын
I haven’t tried the CV. I just got a CAR VM that I’m looking to mod and upgrade. JM’s aren’t my main guitar and I hate the vintage style truss rod so I’m hoping it like it. Thanks for the comparison!
@NoWayOut-2 жыл бұрын
I have a blem candy apple red VM Jazzmaster. It was first exposure to offsets. It’s fine yet feels cheap in terms of wiring and playability. If I were to do over again the choice or had other option, would of went with CV. Squier needs to get more boutique like Fender Mexico with prices matching now to what they once were. Await a nitro squier guitar limited line. It’s possible and more finishes like that be nice. Think a standard nitro guitar should be more common being it’s not relic or made of complete high quality components.
@realxandercuck2 жыл бұрын
Nitro is uncommon because it's bad for the environment and doesn't hold up under duress. I'm a Gibson guy so I understand why you'd prefer it but it's an objectively inferior finish option so mass-production operations tend to avoid it.
@WannesVDR2 жыл бұрын
Very much to the point and factual. I miss your jokes and stabs at each other 😊 I never had to choose between these two, but still enjoy the ice blue Vintera JM. Slap some fuzz on that thing and it 's wild!
@pepuletrz Жыл бұрын
cv any day. just reshape the trem plate and its perfect.
@PedalPlayhouse2 жыл бұрын
Great shootout guys! Also Tia in an Atlanta Thrashers hockey Jersey! 🙌 hell yasss! Modified def wins for me
@mrNobody1004 ай бұрын
i remember back when i got a vintage modified squier mustang in like, 2012.... sonic blue was quite pale looking.... oh, and 12 years later, it looks like it went into more of a green territory, which is fine, i like green. but now i have a daphne blue CV jazz coming in the mail, and i hope it looks as good as the pic. anyways, yay, commenting on a 2 year old video!
@ashadedelayed2 жыл бұрын
I need some inlays in my life. As I already have the J Mascis I'm not about the off white anniversary JM with gold hardware but that blue one with gold might get me.
@niallmcstravick33312 жыл бұрын
Have you checked out the new cv 70's JM on Andertons? LPB w/ matching headstock + blocks and binding!
@davidrevan1374 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this serious comparison. My choice would be the Vintage Modified, cause of the woods. Basswood is more expressive than Poplar, Rosewood is warmer than Laurel. Sure behind you have to change the bridge and the tuners. But the lutherie base is more interesting and if you install a set of Fender Pure Vintage 65 pickups: you will be able to easily compare it to an USA pro serie.
@MichaelWilliams-np6pd2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if this exists and I’m lazy but: would love y’all to do a video on your philosophy behind upgrading pickups. Thinking about modding my Squier Tele Deluxe and wanna hear the ~working class~ perspective.
@JasonTMays2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I think we’re going to do a video upgrading the pickups in the vintage modified. But yea, we’ll definitely include that!
@realxandercuck2 жыл бұрын
We touched on this briefly in the Starcaster video. New pickups made that thing sound incredible
@chemsplosionchemistryvideo9485 Жыл бұрын
I love my lefty Classic Vibe JM. We only get one color, but whatever! I changed out the electronics and pickups (Rose Picasso humbuckers), but it was fine before that.
@ebrens8 ай бұрын
Super happy to find this channel - love my CV JM and love a good Thrashers jersey
@LicksoftheLegend2 жыл бұрын
Great review from both of you! Also love the Kramer hat.
@phillramirez8323 Жыл бұрын
Both wonderful guitars😎🎸 I prefer the vibe more got the Squier 70s vibe, definitely in the future I'll will be purchasing 60s vibe (surf green) when it goes on sale again thanks for the awesome review 😁👍
@denialisadish4562 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you, cool video!
@dandylion611 ай бұрын
My Olympic white VM with antiquity II’s is an amazing instrument. Prefer to my more expensive JMs. Find the stock vibrato better than CIJ. Appreciate your attention to detail.
@Mystninja2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2022 gold 40th anniversary. And I've shimed the neck. It's a guitar that is playable out of the box. But can play better. I also have a 2022 square jazzmaster contemporary and it's all round a better players guitar if your not looking for it to be traditional. And the shell pink looks like a Goldie brown flake. At most angle. And pink only some times. It's a odd look the 22 shell pink
@JasonTMays2 жыл бұрын
I want to review one of those!!!!
@Mystninja2 жыл бұрын
@@JasonTMays I'm sure the 40th anniversary are just classic Vibe 70s jazzmasters. And note with the contemporary jazzmaster. The 2021/22 is updated from the contemporary JM 2018/19
@JasonTMays2 жыл бұрын
@@Mystninja Oh, I didn't even realize that with that 40th anniversary stuff. but you're right! And Yea, I definitely want to try a new contemporary Jazzmaster! I'm curious about them.
@felixfranzen7578 Жыл бұрын
Great demo! These two are made at same factory I take it? So there should be much difference quality wise. I recently tried out a Classic Vibe 60's JM and the necks on those things are just perfect. I find that the standard modern C (or whatever they call it) Fender uses on most guitars is way too thin. The slightly thicker neck on the CVs is amazing. The thing stays in tune pretty well too even-though it comes with 9's which as you know way to thin for the JM bridge. I think the current Sonic Blue looks smashing on the CV JM. It should come with a mint-green guard instead of the tortoise one though.
@carlfolcojr.3497 Жыл бұрын
Did you guys take the plastic off the pickups on the classic vibe?
@westernfilet2 жыл бұрын
Mercy store didn’t work. Help?
@combs082 жыл бұрын
Great video as always!
@itchyvinyl Жыл бұрын
I’ve never met a basswood guitar that I’ve liked. They all feel like dead fish to me. I think CV’s are across the board higher quality than VM.
@jamesbookert2 жыл бұрын
Y’all the best
@allenwoody59092 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great comparison video. Great playing too.
@riphopfer58162 жыл бұрын
You guys should really tell us what rig you’re running through. I tell people what rig i run through even when i’m not discussing guitars.
@riphopfer58162 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid! You guys were hella thorough. Keep on rollin’!
@WorkingClassMusic2 жыл бұрын
great note. we'll definitely try to make that more clear in later videos!
@realxandercuck2 жыл бұрын
Soundguy here lol. We're almost always using an Orange Rockerverb 50 or AD30R. Earlier episodes were mostly a Rocker 30.
@Zoso7227 Жыл бұрын
I bought my classic vibe a few months ago and found that my bridge lowers as I play. Idk if anyone else has come across this, but it’s getting hard to defend the newer classic vibe guitars sadly. At least mine was that way
@luckyboy13 Жыл бұрын
Blue thread lock fixes that. I think I got that tip from Puishin's channel. Emphasis on Blue. You can still make adjustments, other varieties will lock it up.
@Zoso7227 Жыл бұрын
@@luckyboy13 yeah, I got it and it’s all good now. I bought it pretty cheap so I’m not too bummed out
@pgroove163 Жыл бұрын
👍
@rshack49272 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, What pickups are on your personal Jazzmaster?
@WorkingClassMusic2 жыл бұрын
if it's not mentioned in the video, we'll try to get back to you on a solid answer