$600,000 Letdown: Unforgettable John Deere 9RX Experience!

[@KeithRoyer-d1p]

Nice = 20 times. Have a nice Thanksgiving

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Thanks! Happy Thanksgiving to you too!

[@raincoast9010]

@@RockyMountainFarmer What about the right to repair?

[@donh6416]

@raincoast9010 JD does not share software. Owner/Operator must get JD to service anything based on software. Even some mechanical repairs will require JD to reset/reprogram the computer. As of today only Colorado requires manufacturers to share software.

[@ceterisparibus51]

I counted the times he said "This is not an exact comparison." I think the answer is 742. I'm not the fastest gun in the West, but I kinda' caught the drift after the first mention.

[@imonurgoat]

Thats actually pretty disappointing. Thats about 1 Nice per minute.

[@jansilverthorn777]

I used to work for a John Deere salesman. ALL of the equipment on his farm was CASE. He knew the green paint was a waste of money…

[@Parents_of_Twins]

So true that's a special green made with authentic American used dollars, or at least that's how they charge for it.

[@redtussock]

@@Parents_of_Twins Correct ... I sold (Very modestly) red tractors for a brief time in the 90's ... could never understand the perverse sexual preference for Green paint ... they would upgrade their deeply loyal green clients then knock $20k discount off and sell to anyone in any tractor not coloured green.

[@jrod264winmag]

If I touch anything on my Yanmar the warranty is void

[@Parents_of_Twins]

@@jrod264winmag That's so ridiculous. You own it but can't work on it so BS.

[@johntimmins5564]

Good decision..Being in the logging business for over 25 years, when it comes to low end torque & pulling power, most times more is not always better. These big companies focus on selling you equipment..They don't cover the fact that if a machine is 1000's of pounds heavier than what ur currently using, it takes a good portion of that extra HP to move the extra weight itself. Ex: My 11 ton Dozer with 110 hp pulls 1000 bdft of red oak up a 25 degree incline just as fast as my 13 ton machine with 145Hp. Factor in the increased fuel consumption and the added cost of Def. I spent 20..ish % more $ to produce the same amount of log dollars on 2 identical timber harvests, and had to have oversized load permits to move the bigger machine.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

I appreciate your experience and the information you shared.

[@johntimmins5564]

anytime. I've been following for about a year. My wife loved watching the potato harvest ​@@RockyMountainFarmer

[@johntimmins5564]

​@@RockyMountainFarmerBest wishes & Happy Thanksgiving

[@raincoast9010]

What about the right to repair?

[@christopherleblanc9599]

ya power over weight is a heavy expense to over come ,,,

[@JohnSmith-ug5ci]

Why anyone would stay with JD after the way they treat their customers on refusing to release codes for self-repair is beyond me.

[@clearskiesranch1362]

Another person who has no idea what they’re talking about

[@JATFarms1023]

@@clearskiesranch1362considering this comment has more likes then you’re response tells you otherwise? It’s true. John Deere going down hill.

[@duck0fdeathc336]

@@clearskiesranch1362 I’m in excavating we used to buy mostly John Deere they’ll bankrupt you. I don’t know what brand of fram equipment to buy buy I wouldn’t buy any new deere

[@clearskiesranch1362]

@@JATFarms1023or people have absolutely no idea what the issue is and have been told how to feel about it without knowing any of the facts

[@emmvee1678]

​@@clearskiesranch1362 Must be a salesman

[@boomerang379]

I live in the Mississippi Delta. We farm corn, cotton, rice and soybeans. We’re also in the precision land levelling business to level land for flood irrigating rice and furrow irrigation for row crops. I put 8000 hours on a 9510R pulling buckets, sold it and bought a 9570R with Cummins power. The 9570 had a high pressure fuel pump failure and they brought me a 9620R. I will say this the Cummins power is absolutely awesome! Huge improvement over the 9560’s and 9510’s. They are absolute turds. I had constant nightmares with emissions failures on my 9510. The 9620 rental was an absolute beast as far as pulling power. My 9570 has 2800 hours now and we’ve decided to trade it on a 9R640. I’m a little nervous but hopeful since it’s a new engine design by Deere. Precision land leveling is a big business here and Steiger is the most popular brand on buckets. Based on my tens of thousands of hours of experience they are a better tractor for pulling scrapers than Deere. Deere is good at making row crop tractors but CaseIH has them beat at building articulated tractors.

[@williamjones6053]

I pulled a bucket with the 8810 in the delta ..working for some Mennonites ..good solid people and good tractors ..

[@markhoffert2685]

A friend tried a 620 John Deere and had a 550 Case IH tractor. He said the 550 pulled his chisel plow the same speed with less fuel per hour. The Case may be louder in the cab but over time the Case always wins out with the Steiger tractor background.

[@kurtwilliams9114]

Case is quieter by far

[@TrevorOxman]

But the new 9rx JD released doesn’t need government juice

[@jamesbarbour8400]

​@@TrevorOxmanonly because of the horsepower category it currently occupies.

[@donh6416]

JD is no longer a farm machinery company. It's a technology company that sells farm equipment. There's no right to repair after warranty. JD stores all the farmer info and uses that info to predict crop harvest yields. Which will drive down prices. JD is the "big brother" we've all been warned about.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

John Deere is definitely changing but I can tell you that they don’t have any crop yield data. That isn’t stored in the tractor.

[@donh6416]

@RockyMountainFarmer Let me find the KZbin video that says differently

[@donh6416]

@RockyMountainFarmer Couldn't get the link to cut and paste but search KZbin "How John Deere robs farmers of $4 billion a year"

[@alpinlt769]

@@donh6416 I like how people who don't see a real tractor explain it to a real farmer.

[@timheasley612]

Well I think he is talking about the combine and they definitely monitor yield Data right to the inch on your farm and over time they will know you're average yield to the pound you just don't know what Deere will do after like ten years of good and bad weather conditions what your yield will be it's all in Deere's favor

[@ballardgriswold7994]

We had a John Deere 9rx and a case quad track at the same time and the quad track excelled in every way. Better shifting, more power, and was much less expensive as far as track maintenance. The Deere disappointed us. We have a case 620 quad now

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

We would love to try a case

[@sakurashogun]

My family was JD for 2 gens and after the company started to give us the runaround on a replacement fuel pump we tried a big ol' Steiger and I will never forget my grandad's face when he heard the price they were asking for it lol. He sold the JD and we have ben red ever since. Case is doing WORK taking honest farmers away from JD and I welcome it, more competition in our area means that even those that are still JD will benefit. Not gonna lie though after we saw some of those Fendt tractors at a show though, wow! Those things are like lambo's.

[@ballardgriswold7994]

@ we used to have around 13 of the fendts! We kinda of converted back to Deere because of some better service but we still have 5 fendts and we love them

[@jameshess6855]

​@@ballardgriswold7994the new fendts are the best tractors for custom farming like manure hauling/chopping that is out there! No question about it!

[@kellymcdermott2546]

@@sakurashogun I drove a Fendt on scraper work. A very comfortable tractor, and I don't hit the roof on rough ground.

[@GhostSniper67]

The funny thing about heated/cooled seats and steering wheels and massaging seats. When you don't have them they are stupid and unnecessary. Then after you have them and see how much better you feel while using them and at the end of the day. They become a MUST HAVE.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

They are nice for sure

[@Jdalio5]

100%

[@reivanen]

Pretty much every car i have ever owned had heated seats, but i never once used them. Would this be different in a tractor? Hard to see how. As long as you have heating in the cabin, which even 50 year old equipment has...

[@bresina63]

Can you add them to your present tractor?

[@PatrickBaptist]

They have to come up with this junk so people will actually buy this garbage, your old tractor can be modified to have any comfort you want.... 600k for a cheap message seat is comical, those things are always a gimmick.

[@Ultrostre]

Here I am watching the whole thing and I’m not even a farmer and I don’t have the beginning of a clue how to farm.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Well I hope you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.

[@liamwindsor5854]

Same, but now I’m in the market for a tractor 😂

[@brettymike]

We would be very very hungry without the Farmers.

[@ecleveland1]

I’d sit down and run the numbers on cost of ownership over how ever many years you plan to keep it. Take emotion and “new shiny tractor “ out of the equation. These tractors are too expensive to make a bad purchase decision for the business.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

That’s usually what we do. We always buy used to try and save some money.

[@IndependenceIron]

Alot of these big companies are only focused on fancy new tech and comfort, and hoping emotion and increased hp sells. Even though it moves dirt the same as the older tractor, but at more fuel cause all the tech and fancy stuff adds weight!

[@paulgoulet7982]

Chris, I really enjoy the incredible aerial shots you provide. Wishing great success to the RMF family.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

My uncle has a large farm operation in northern Indiana and he's always been a JD guy. I was up there to visit this last T-Giving and he had just taken delivery of a Challenger MT965E. It's not tracked, but 8 wheels and articulated. I don't know what you call that. A dually x4? lol I was stunned seeing a yellow machine on his property. I just kind of shrugged and gave him the "WTF" look. He shook his head and in the saddest tone I have ever heard come from him, he simply said "Deere is not Deere anymore, and I can't sustain dealing with them any longer" Now this is a man who bleeds JD green and has for 50 years. If that isn't a damning statement, I don't know what is. And there are many, many farmers like him.

[@kylen1922]

Love our case quadtracks ! Our 550 quadtrack has plenty of power to pull anything on our farm . Pulls our chizzel plow, no problem . We have ripped the hitch off our landoll twice in the last couple of years .

[@cwalton56]

When I look at this farming equipment, I can't help but think about maintenance and repairs.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Yes there is always maintenance.

[@SFuruli]

Your body gets stronger when you use it, but a machine gets weaker when you use it. Maintenance will always be a thing, especially on big machines pulling heavy loads. 🤗

[@Johnsonfamilyfarmsproduce]

Well at $600,000 they must want to get rid of it. We're a couple hours south of you on the Utah Idaho border and our neighbor was just quoted 900,000 dollars for that tractor. If you want to upgrade you should definitely try the Case that is what everyone around here runs even after the Deere demos

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

We would love to try a case.

[@clearskiesranch1362]

@@RockyMountainFarmerif you do try a case IH make sure your dealer has your back. CNH/Fiat corporate likes to squirm out of warranty repairs for any reason they can

[@jamesbarbour8400]

​@@clearskiesranch1362 that's disappointing to hear - always though Case were superior to JD.

[@EricaMTB]

​@@clearskiesranch1362 Deere love service requests because they can send their man out to your inoperable machine.

[@MarquesChanney]

That’s why I bought the tractors ran them till motors blew up and put c-1 8 800 hp cats in them. Semi trucks have C-16. Did not do that to combines those we just lease.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

We usually keep our tractors for a long time.

[@bentalexranebundgaard4867]

@@RockyMountainFarmer The oldest Tractor i have seen in more or less daily use is a Ferguson from 1949 , it is only used for transport of people and tools /Fuel to the big guys out on the fields, and as practice for the next generation, the toolset for it is simple, a big ass malles, a large screwdriver a roll of hemprope and gaffertape and a spanner. that is it.

[@amunderdog]

Big Bud is building tractors - 2023 640 Big Bud will utilize all Caterpillar drive components - CAT C-18 engine with a capable horsepower range between 640-750 horsepower. CAT TA22 HD 18-Speed power shift transmission. Also saw used ones over 600hp around 150k

[@jaripukki267]

have you seen Welkers project. They only got a Bud frame and will make the tractor themselves, with about 750 to 800hp

[@amunderdog]

@@jaripukki267 Yes, They have several.

[@jaripukki267]

@@amunderdog they just bought anotherone, which they are coupling with shy of 800 hp rock truck engine, and allison transmission

[@charlesprescott1550]

With JD your not purchasing the equipment, your purchasing the right to operate it!! New equipment anyways.

[@culmalachie]

Yep, Shout it out L O U D ! Applies to all these large Brand machines ( and autos ) ( and doesn't mr Windows not have a very large share in JD & CAT ? )

[@pfamkuchen]

I have a small Karat 9 in Germany, nice to see some of the equipment we use here overseas.

[@mikemayne001]

It’s a problem across all brands. Here’s my rule of thumb, if it takes DEF fluid and has a diesel particulate filter (DPF) I don’t buy it. I only buy emissions free equipment. They are much more reliable , also easy to fix when something does break.

[@DV-mj5yi]

Our experience on our farm with sandy soils is that the 2 track is better than the 4 track machine Deere or case. I think the 4 track takes more power to run the tracks. The 2 track feels more nimble and cheaper as well, I don’t think we will every buy a quad lots of hype but I don’t think they are that great for the price.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

I can see that, thanks for sharing your experience.

[@John-nc4bl]

​@@RockyMountainFarmer Thanks for your interesting video. They claim that it takes about 45 hp to drive each track on a Quad. So with a 600 engine hp Quad, one can say that it is putting roughly 420 hp to the ground or 105 hp for each track. A two track tractor probably takes more hp for each track since the tracks are longer which means more friction to overcome.

[@Steph-lv5fg]

This has been our experience as well.

[@vinnierulli6280]

Have you ever considered running a fendt? If you ever do and are looking for high horse, I would consider a 1050 wheeled machine. Or the 1167 2 track machine. I work on them. They are amazing and everyone who has bought one loves them.

[@HeavyMachinery2207]

Great video! You did an excellent job showcasing the John Deere 9RX, capturing both the excitement and the letdown of such a huge investment. The honest review and in-depth analysis really stood out, and the footage was top-notch. Even though the $600,000 didn’t deliver as expected, you provided a valuable perspective on the machine's performance. Fantastic content - looking forward to more videos like this!

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for the kind words!

[@bandit-1]

The only reason both Case and JD started to go past 550/600 hp was the Big Equipment announced that Big Bud was going to Manufacture again ,Starting at 750hp.Funny how the race happened quickly. Hopefully JD have sorted out track wear issues, 1000hr,s was the best we got ,in use of Horsh Tiger, then Boargult bin/DbS bar (sowing rig) and then some fert spreading

[@Simon-tm9xr]

Thank you for your honest review! And that Karat is really amazing....great purchase.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

The lemken equipment is amazing. Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@BrandyJupiter]

It's a good-looking machine. We upgraded to the 4075r for more pto hp. We lost roughly 19k on the trade and another 4k when JD bought it back after 2 months of towing to dealers.

[@davidbarnett.2313]

I like your style. Keeping your emotion out of a practical evaluation.

[@theedumptruck4709]

Case quad track are probably the best on the market. With AFS connect you can't beat it. We run 2 580's and absolutely love em. Pull our 11 shank case chisel plow just fine at 6.5mph and our 31ft high speed disc at 10mph. We also pull 45ft kuhn soil finishers as well with them.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

That’s what we would like to try.

[@theedumptruck4709]

@RockyMountainFarmer we love em. We have demoed few different tractors. Had a big versatile with tires a big fendt front wheel assist and a JD with tires. We are big on compaction due to we have alot of organic acres. The case 580 quad track just was head n shoulders above the rest. We ran mostly case but open to find the best for our operation. The case quad just pulled the best had less compaction and operator ease. I love the AFS connect. We were having auto steer issues and the dealer was able to fix it from the dealership as I drove across the field.

[@Redbeard327]

This comment feels silly, but I’m going to be honest, I play the game farming simulator, and I absolutely love your videos and those of other farmers because I learn so much from you all and I have all the respect. Here’s to hoping you have bountiful harvests.

[@rodhonco5681]

After making the depth corrections, I’m thinking the 1st tractor should go back on for a fair test.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

That’s what the snowy clip was

[@righttobeararmsetc.8492]

Seems like you was able to pull just as hard and you was deeper pulling with it maybe save you from having to do the field two times? And if you don't want it you can always make a decent offer on it

[@copoaffl]

When I looked at the new tractor, you made me remember the time I commented on my Facebook, I'm not getting a new car, but I'm getting new tractors, of course! They were from where I worked, Greetings and have a good day.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@FarmGearInnovators]

🚜 Heated, cooled, AND massaging seats?! This tractor is comfier than my living room couch! 😂 Still not sure that justifies the $600k, though. Great review!

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@michaellebednik6973]

I agree with Gregm, Welkers run Big Buds and love them.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Too bad you can’t find them anywhere

[@Bowiiihowdy]

​@RockyMountainFarmer they are actually starting to make new ones. They showed a prototype not to long ago

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

Quite a leap from the last new tractor bought for our dairy farm in 78 or 79, a new IH 3388 2+2. I probably put 50 hours on it before the farm was sold in 1981.

[@alessandropataro4422]

Out of curiosity, how many hours of engine life should you get from a tractor, before needing an overhaul? I'm asking because one of our older tractors (2013 Landini Powerfarm 110, working in a Pineapple plantation) has about 23,000 hours and it's still running great, it's never needed any overhaul, just ordinary maintenance. I'm wondering when it will be time for an overhaul.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Ours had about 8000 hours but they were all hard tillage hours.

[@alexduke5402]

We have a jd 7800 I can hardy remember it coming to the farm when I was a kid back in the 90s. It has over 10k hours on it now. Still runs great, never been in half. It's showing its age though and needs to be gone over really good, but the engine is still fine. I'd say there's too many determining factors to give a hard line. I'd recommend every couple of oil changes sending a sample out to an analysis lab. We use speed diagnostix. They will be able to give you all the info you'll need to make informed decisions on the data from your equipment.

[@kellymcdermott2546]

@ 23k hrs you have already got your moneys worth from that tractor.

[@dilvastak7351]

Considering the peculiarities of John Deere's warranty and post-warranty service, I wouldn't even look at their equipment even if it was 1.5 times cheaper than its competitors.

[@daveritson7551]

Gallons of fuel per acre is where it matters. Is it any more efficient? Is going faster worth it? If you've got the horsepower, go wider rather than faster.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

It was less efficient at the same speed.

[@daveritson7551]

@@RockyMountainFarmer Oof! That really makes it very hard to justify the upgrade, no matter how NICE it is. ;-)

[@thomasforbes8904]

When your running with Def that destroys the power, it takes about 20% more power for all this emissions stuff Which is a real shame and waste of power and fuel

[@winters3]

@@RockyMountainFarmer hmm it’s no 100% clear from the data in the video (27,3gal/h in the non-snow conditions...you remember the one from the snow condition, it’s no in the video). but when i calculate with these numbers: 5,8 vs 7 speed = +20% speed = +20% more work done 27,3gal/h vs 29,4gal/h = +7,5% fuel so if we compare area/fuel each to the other: 1aera/27,3gal vs 1,2/29,4gal = 11% better efficiency per fuel ----> initial price difference gives some where an amount of hours determines the breakeven point of the investment ----> but there is to take as well in to account wear/maintenance cost of the tractor..... ----> in general, you can also say if you could only us the higher HP tractor at lower power there is less wear question as well remains ----> there ar e un calculate abele stuff like that you can use with a faster tractor shorter time windows... ----> unknown risk are often the long term reliability with In general such calulations are complex an difficult i would guess in the end of all there with be a long period of return of investment and the risk are on your side as farmer.

[@nathanbaier9929]

Def has little to no effect on power. The tractors they have the 510 and the 460 don't have def but they have egr and dpf which do have more effect on power and efficiency than def systems.​@thomasforbes8904

[@prairiefarmer5994]

It's worth saying that auction prices right now you can save a lot of money by just buying a tractor someone else put the first 500 or 1000 hours on it. 8RX's are selling at auction for 30-50% less than new with 500 hours lately.

[@galen3406]

Great video - you're right, there's not enough difference in the power!

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@kmilton1593]

Roughly figuring: if a one-ton diesel duelly loaded truck is worth just say a 100 gran, then this is worth 6 duellys: so trucks are made in large production lines, whereas 9RX are few in number and take longer to manufacture; so it would seem than 600,000 is reasonable. You have great traction, virtually no slippage, and it is very quick and impressive to accelerate from 0 to 7 MPH, the cab is nice and simple and functionable, love those tracks, so it seems pretty good to me. Wonder if there is power loss in transmission? What is warranty?

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

It was nice. Not sure what the warranty is I think it is usually a year.

[@bertbinsbergen7549]

Nice video, that Lemken does sure a nice job.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Yes it does! glad you enjoyed the video

[@AgriWaveProcessing]

Counting the 'nice' tally while enjoying the ride! 🚜💨 What an awesome machine, but $600k? That’s a steep NICE tag!

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Glad you enjoyed it. It’s a little too pricey

[@RBB73]

I count 21 times - including the one in the opening comment about counting how many times :)

[@jmber27]

So what was the fuel consumption after adjusting the rig to proper depth 🤔

[@jpa1282]

Sad how deere has become an anti consumer company

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

It is unfortunate.

[@BGG178]

No they’re not. They’re extremely helpful. You can look up any schematic, part number, how to, anything you want on there techpub page. I work on our tractors all the time. You go to case, Agco, fendt, you won’t find it unless you pay 50 bucks. Plus Deere parts are cheaper than others. A fuel filter for my 9200 is cheaper than the fuel filter on my Agco sprayer. Just because you can’t program the system doesn’t mean they’re anti consumer.

[@kazuviking]

@@BGG178 How to find a deere shill that lives under a rock.

[@treebeard290]

😂​@@kazuviking

[@kennethlaw9830]

​@@BGG178yes they are! Quit being a fanboy. They make junk now. They charge way to much for what you get just to pay their investors more. So they went the way of Harley Davidson, Ford, and many others. They charge double for less quality. Then if anything should teach you how little they care about the farmers who buy their products should have been when farmers had to sue them for the right to work on thier own equipment. The poor management John Deere has at the moment is going to run them out of business. Proof would be Oliver, Minneapolis Moline, International. What killed them wasn't bad quality products. It was poor management. John deere now has both. Poor management and failing quality.

[@dreiback182]

Isnt there a saying that each track robbs you like 20 or 30hp? So because you have 2 Tracks more you loose 40-60hp. But Im not sure how much there is to that saying and how triangular and shorter belts compare to the RT, if thats compareable with that saying...

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

I’ve never heard that. But it could be true

[@joelg8004]

How does the RX compare to the Fendt 1000MT (think that’s what it was called) you demoed last year?

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

The fendt is probably a little better

[@americanbeefranch]

And just as if not more expensive

[@Hoserfishing]

The Case 535 is a beast...it will outpull far larger John Deeres. Give them a go or better yet the 620 quad

[@TheRandallraplee]

A simple video that is informative and entertaining. Thank you R M F !

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@fragslap5229]

Is it correct that IF that thing breaks, ONLY John Deere is allowed to fix it without breaking the warranty?

[@FlorianHaehnle]

What a machine. Impressive!

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

It is pretty nice, but I expected more

[@markbillus]

14:28 The coyote actually stopped to see if it was safe to cross... such a smart animal!!!

[@Tafs315]

I would buy it but I don't own a farm. My family and siblings still farm. They got rid of everything green They were tired of not being able to work on the stuff and having to pay a high amount of money just to fix John Deere. They purchase Fendt and a lot of Case equipment. That also got rid of Kubota because it was not worth the hassle.

[@clearskiesranch1362]

Ha!🤣 if you think that Case IH and Fendt don’t have proprietary software I have a bridge to sell you

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

It sounds like your family had a good reason for switching, especially if it’s getting difficult to get things fixed.

[@ky2auburn]

@@clearskiesranch1362 The amount of people that harp on the right to repair issue while not realizing all the other manufacturers have the same constraints shows how little people are aware. Deere is the largest manufacturer - and the only one that most non-farm people have even heard of - so they get picked on the most on KZbin and in the media. But the fact is that Deere agreed to right to repair changes in almost 2 years ago in January of 2023, and CaseIH/New Holland only eased their restrictions AFTER Deere did.

[@clearskiesranch1362]

@@ky2auburn exactly. This whole “right to repair” argument is such a joke. I can walk into my local Deere dealership and purchase the software to work on anything green today and have been able to for the last 30 years. Total waste of time talking about it unless they start requiring a credit card swipe or a certified Deere mechanic to change the oil.

[@ky2auburn]

@@clearskiesranch1362 The other thing that people in cities and suburbs that are completely disconnected from agriculture (but still comment on these videos) have no clue about: Parts availability long-term, and the impact to price. Try getting a part for an older machine from another brand. They drop parts WAY sooner than Deere. Yes, Deere is expensive. But they also stock parts for more machines and continue to do so for much longer than their competitors. That infrastructure costs money. It's why Deere machines hold their value longer.

[@watchthe1369]

It looks like you have the same problem for a "emission equiped" engine and maybe the second set of tracks, performance hit for weight/ running gear and EPA.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Your probably right

[@ethanmcleod8819]

I’ve got you at 17 times saying “nice”. That’s including the intro.

[@JohnSmith-un9px]

I’ve got a Rubin 10 and have suggested to Lemken a visual on the go level indicator would be more than nice. I could make one but it wouldn’t be as German

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Yeah the Rubin 12 has that. I don’t know why the others don’t.

[@kevinglanzer9388]

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family and I think the radio should also be on that screen displayed next to the controls not on the ceiling or it could be on the steering wheel

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Definitely Room for improvement. Happy thanksgiving.

[@gfpd2722]

I run the transmission in manual mode during heavy tillage. It never seems to pulls as hard in auto or custom.

[@ileenmcminn2062]

Sorry I ran out of fingers and toes. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Happy thanksgiving. Thanks for watching.

[@watchthe1369]

what is cost of ownership. Rebuilding an engine after how many hours? Then again how much is that PTO+ Tripoint worth too? Could it run the Crossover or Harvester if needed? Having a drop in replacement might be a saver in the middle of the harvest? Not one to replace your plowhorse, but what about the others?

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Our 9510 had almost 8000 hours before the engine went down. We could pull the grain drill and the grain cart but not much else other than tillage because the tracks are too wide for row crops.

[@adams5153]

Tuning your 2-track seems like a less expensive option.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Yeah, I imagine we’re not gonna trade it. Especially now that it has a new motor. Hopefully no problems.

[@dieselfixr]

Question. Not in the farming business at all but very curious. The fuel burn rate 20+ gallons and hour is that normal? That just sounds like a lot.

[@gdotone1]

Finally somebody that gets 600,000 is ridiculous amount for a tractor. These guy are killing two industries. Farming Ang tractor manufacturing

[@John-nc4bl]

Slaves to the tractor manufacturer for years.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

It is definitely ridiculous.

[@northdakotaham1752]

I have a small farm in the Red River Valley raising wheat and soybeans. My total investment in equipment is less than $50k....all paid in cash. No equipment payment for 15 years now. I can repair everything I have myself. It's not for everyone however, I understand that.

[@johngaither9263]

I got 22. Counting the word "nice" being spoken was more interesting than watching the tractor plowing the ground. That tractor makes me think of Tesla cars. Tech out the yang. Very powerful but no more than already exists but expensive as hell. The software keeps you at the mercy of JD forever.

[@motel581]

Is a big bud something you’re considering? They seem to fit the same need & have higher horsepower, I don’t understand the cost evaluation though so I’d be curious to hear your more knowledgeable opinion

[@clearskiesranch1362]

The new big buds are just a pipe dream. They’ll never get one out of the factory

[@clearskiesranch1362]

It’s been 4 years since they announced the new production of big buds and they don’t even have a working prototype

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

It would be cool to try one but I don’t know where to get one.

[@nathanbaier9929]

Did you say the 460 was burning 27gal/hr? If so I bet its also tuned. 460 are typically in the low 20s i think. On the 13.5s almost doesnt matter what generation 600hp is around 29-30gal/hr

[@pr0blumz]

$600K and all it got was a "It's comfortable." Ouch!!! 😂

[@C303ofSweden]

If you compare torque instead of horsepower you will understand why there is not that big of a difference. For the record, ask the retail price on the turbo on that engine. That might be a deal breaker.

[@Lakeman3211]

Deere is saying that a 25 will be over a million $ a pop….fully loaded…how can you possibly justify it…?

[@kwequip]

I know that a lot of farmers trade up every few years but what about the parts availability and longevity after 6,7, or 8 years or more for farmers who keep equipment longer. Deere has made so many different models that it seems to me it would be a hard thing for Deere to keep parts longer than 7 or 8 years. (a warehousing headache). What if you had a 7 year old machine and inquired about parts and were told they considered that model obsolete and that specific part was unavailable...

[@bryanhubner9848]

I didn’t count but I think the tractor is really nice too.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

It is nice

[@Bass.Player]

My Parents were in the custom farming business. I really like running this equipment.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

It is fun

[@DanTaron-l5o]

I live in Ventura county north of Los Angeles. We have cayotes roaming the neighborhood. They aren't afraid of anything. If you were to trap or shoot them, you could go to jail. You see posters for missing dogs. WTF

[@stevepieper9784]

Govt intrusion and far reaching controls on private property. UNACCEPTABLE

[@justmyopinion6486]

Absolutely amazing I'm not a farmer,but this video makes me wish I was. I know y'all have a lot of issues for which I know is a pain(Gov. etc....) good luck this year hope all goes well.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed it

[@northeastnebraskafarming117]

Two track will always out pull a quad in a straight pull.

[@northeastnebraskafarming117]

So much horsepower and torque lost in a articulate through all the transfer of drivelines and driveshafts.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Good to know

[@wildbilln61]

@@timenscoe7812 They pull fine through corners. They use a hydraulic driven differential to turn. I put over 12,000 hours on Cat Challengers, the only place a quad track will beat a two track is in the mud.

[@kylen1922]

What model plow is that? How does it hold up? We have used landoll for about 10 years and has been prettt good .

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

It’s a lemken karat 10

[@raahafshereif3019]

Including the first “nice” I guess nice was said 21 times

[@EricaMTB]

If your current tiller trips the tynes, more hp is useless

[@BGG178]

Don’t buy the tractor. Lease it. Buying doesn’t help at all on the tax side. Depreciation and interest don’t add up enough to lower taxes. Lease it to own. You can claim the lease payment and depreciation as a write off with no increase in your net income.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Interesting

[@annmurphy5507]

@@RockyMountainFarmerLARSON FARMS YT leases their JD combines. I don’t know if that would be same as leasing a tractor….worth investigating. 👋👋👋from Texas!

[@garyzimmerman6316]

Fleece. 😂

[@bossdog1480]

In Australia some of the farmers pull a whole system behind the tractor. So, plowing and seeding all together. The whole thing must be 40 ft long. They have something else in there as well. A farrow maybe, not sure.?

[@gregm949]

Go get you a Big Bud. They are making them again. More horsepower less bullshit. And you can work on them. Without having to ask permission to work on them.

[@justinhaas6390]

It’s gonna be cool to see how the new Big Buds turn out

[@clearskiesranch1362]

Everything you said is absolutely untrue. They might be building them again but they’re going to use proprietary Caterpillar parts and software. If they ever get one out of the factory I’ll be surprised. It’s been 4 years since the announced the new production big buds and they don’t even have an operational prototype or even know what their cabs are going to look like. Combine that with no dealer support and it’s never going to happen.

[@Reese-km1dv]

They literally showed the new one off at the farm progress show

[@justinhaas6390]

@@Reese-km1dv i mean how they turn out after a couple hundred engine hours on a farm…

[@clearskiesranch1362]

@@Reese-km1dv over a year ago. It wasn’t operational and they didn’t even do any field demos with it

[@Bit01]

Interested to know how a diesel electric tractor would stack up.

[@jordanblondin9183]

My uncle always said "John Deere dealerships are like your wife, expensive , sweet to look at and a phone number you will never forget because you will always need to call them to fix your problems."

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

You got that right.

[@blown503]

what brand of tracks are on that 590? I mean the weight is there for tractive effort.

[@froggienm71]

Have the CASEIH dealer bring you a 580 or 585. Try it out. Or better yet, the Versatile 570DT

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

We have tried but they never have one.

[@froggienm71]

@RockyMountainFarmer what part of Colorado are you in?

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

We are in Idaho

[@froggienm71]

@RockyMountainFarmer oh, okay. One of my dad's good friends moved to the mountains up near the Idaho Canadian border

[@randallmidgley7589]

Why did the engine fail? Sounds problematic to me, usually its something that wasn't done correctly in the reman. Nice tractor though, the costs are something else though. Needs to be a big increase in the value of the crops, but that's not likely is it.

[@stx450quadtrack]

Deeres tractor is called a 4 track not a quadtrac .

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Everyone calls them a quad track here

[@JulianKeller-om6wz]

Case built the first quadtracs, so everybody calls everything a quadtrac. Just like dozers. Everything is a Cat. 4WD wheel loaders. Everything is a Payloader. I've been in the equipment business, ag and construction, all my life, and that drives me nuckin futs!

[@lfeco]

Around here they are called a green quadtrac or a red quadtrac. An 86 year old neighbor who still farms calls the red ones Farmall quadtracs.

[@vespasian266]

aren't tracks there to lower compaction?.

[@jimmytreadway3195]

Quad track is a case

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Everyone calls these quad tracks as well

[@jimmytreadway3195]

@RockyMountainFarmer well not everyone lol

[@michaelshakeshaft9815]

Manual mode it will pull a lot better ,which gear box do you have in it

[@ColdStoneRacing]

Great video! Good lookin tractor. But Jd ain't what it used to be, in my opinion.

[@dominichamel4685]

Well, I wish you luck with your new machine. But having experience with vehicles equipped with aftertreatment, it's a whole different ballgame. Be prepared for costly repairs and downtime. It might not bite you immediately, but rest assured it's in your near future

[@tone5959]

That's because of the DPF and everything that the after treatment has to do choking off the exhaust. And recycling it

[@rodleypumpkins4174]

When I was mining still the loader I ran was a 988 and it would eat 15-20 gallons of def in a shift and 200 gallons of fuel.

[@leftyleftme3354]

21 times. Nice looking tractor, but nice doesn’t pay the note or the fuel bill. Enjoyed the vid.

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@layneheward5392]

Do you do 2 passes the same direction or do you change the angle slightly for the second pass

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

We change in the spring

[@ShaneSeymour-z9r]

Nice content brother, thank you from Louisiana!

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@larrystalica4037]

how much speed would you like to gain to justify an upgrade?

[@RockyMountainFarmer]

If we could get to 8 it would be nice.