600 Mile Electric Car Journey In a 100 Mile Nissan Leaf! (& Snow!)

[@jcfallows]

If want to try running a low range EV there is nothing wrong by accepting its limits then use it accordingly. People get over this thought that a car has to have no limits. Your missing out if you do. I liked this video! Well done again.

[@Milhouse77BS]

Cold winter journeys in an old 2012 Leaf make even a 31 mile trip to train station exciting: “Can I turn the heater on?” “Hope this 20 mph headwind doesn’t last the entire way.”

[@SWR112]

Donald Parish Got to emit the finding charging points and planning I’d enjoy. Sad thing is by the time I get a EV 300-400 miles will be the norm and there will be four to five times more charger available so it will be an non event. Some of the best drives I’ve had have been in snow because it was a mission and exciting. 😁 When you can comfortably do say the north coast 500 in Scotland one of my favourite drives all be stopping at Tounge as it gets boring on the East coast and taking in Glen Coe and Fort William and charge points are easy to find fossil is dead to me😁

[@clarksonbarry]

We trailblazers earn our EV perks.

[@SteveMorton]

I try to stop every two hours on a long trip and I don't drive an EV.... yet.. The other thing people should consider is what is your journey profile? So how many long journeys do you do in a year that require say one or two recharges on each leg of the journey compared to your average day to day use when you might not need to recharge more than say once or twice a week. This is the way I'm starting to think now. Sure long journeys will require a bit more time and more planning. But most days my use of an EV will be no different to an ICE car. Going for a longer range EV helps, but the extra battery capacity means more weight. So there has to be a sweet spot I guess.

[@jeroenimus7528]

Having done an 1100 mile journey in a 24kWh Leaf (Scotland to the south of France) I know what you mean ;) Be glad you didn't have to deal with the French charging infrastructure. Agree it's nice and relaxing to stop regularly, having your car force you to do so ain't a bad thing. (although I think 40kWh would be the sweet spot for us) As for battery temperature, we drove south in September with ambient temperatures in France in the upper twenties. Still no issue.

[@Tore_Lund]

Did a trip to Bremen from Copenhagen 470 miles to and from, in 1994 in a lead acid powered City-El. Range was 60 miles between fast charges (45 minutes of 5kW for charging the usable 2.4kW capacity). It worked perfectly, especially as back then, only a few hundred free charging stations existed around central Europe, so most of the time, I got power for free from local businesses. The few places where they accepted my offered money totalled 5 EUR for the roundtrip.

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

This video has inspired me to take my 30kwh Leaf from my home in Ipswich to Edinburgh next month. I've got some annual leave and a friend who moved up there recently, and I've been wanting to do a long road trip for a while.

[@jayferret007]

100 miles then I need the bog, it called "bladder range"

[@plugandplayEV]

So, at what point does "bladder anxiety" kick in?!

[@DannyThompson54]

I've the bladder of a four year old. Always have had. So this suits me nicely LOL

[@russiandrivers9986]

That's true, but to stop every 100 miles you would need a real range of about 130 miles so that you can charge to 80% and arrive with something in reserve. With the 100 mile Leaf you need to stop every 70 miles.

[@niceboy60]

Guys you are missing the point a Bit, my Diesel has 820 miles Range i get it, no one will drive for 12 hours straight, however the Benefit is choosing when to stop, where to, stop and for how long to stop . There's a Massive difference between being forced to Stop or Stopping when you feel safe to do it

[@Barefoot_Joe]

Bladder anxiety depends on your age mainly ;) @@plugandplayEV

[@blackfoxtn]

I found this video really interesting in part because I have two leafs, one is 2016 and a 2019 from last October and I have never tried a long journey. Next time I need to make a 400 mile trip I will try mine and see how it does. I use my newer one for my 40 mile each way to work daily and my wife uses the older one for driving around town.

[@alanclegg8568]

5 years ago we travelled in a 24kw Leaf to northern Holland via Hull - Rotterdam ferry. No problems and only two bouts of range anxiety but what an adventure. There are pics of us on plug points all over Holland. Now we have just bought a used 30kw and planning to go via the tunnel when everything opens up again. Many more charge points now here and in Holland. My only worry is battery overheating but we will be overnight before going in the tunnel. Thanks for your informative videos.

[@steveandrews5336]

Scotch eggs - the breakfast of champions! Interesting vid on realities of ev use. It can be done.

[@billsmith810]

Fun video! As a motorcyclist and an older retired guy between those 2 factors my longest ride/drive is dependent on my need to pee or saddle soreness so that averages around 150 miles straight as opposed to my youth when I coukd go about 230 before a needed break so yep it's the human component that is the real limiting factor. Excellent points about charging to 80% and especially if you have access to fast chargers.

[@davidpartington4617]

Great video ! Agree with all your thoughts on EV driving. I did London to Dundee and back in December in my 24kWh - around 500miles took me about 16hrs and 10 rapids each way. Absolutely nuts of course, but it was an adventure and taught me a lot about the impracticalities of a short range Ev. Cost was quite low as had loads of free EH charges - I also remember that very same Doncaster Holiday Inn Polar charger - it takes some persistence to find at the back of the hotel in the dark. It’s interesting to note that the extra range in a 30kwh versus my 24kWh makes the journey significantly easier, I had to plan stops every 50miles or so - and things don’t always go to plan - had one scary time with flashing dashes ;-) Currently lusting after a Kona, but want to test drive one before committing...Incidentally I am also a fan of Scotch eggs...Keep up the great work with these videos !

[@newscoulomb3705]

I agree. A 350 to 400 mile EV is the sweet spot. Even though I make regular 500-mile trips in the United States, that still applies to me. One meal break and a couple of bathroom breaks would present plenty of opportunities to top up while making a 500 to 600 mile trip.

[@richardpetek712]

Actually, even an EV with a range close to 300 miles range does the trick. Use abetterrouteplanner.com/ Put in your trip, select Tesla Model 3 Mid or Long range and see what happens. I think you will be surprised.

[@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489]

If EV can charge 80% in 20 minutes like SparkEV, even 240 miles range EV is enough since 80% is 192 miles, 3 hours drive at 65 MPH. Even in some adverse conditions, that's still 2 hours. As an example of charging being more important, SparkEV took 16 hours for 650 miles while this longer range Leaf took 17.5 hours for only 600 miles.

[@foxylady1048]

You are a very brave man my son. I have a 2018 leaf, and even I wouldn’t have the nerve to do that.

[@ronnielloyd4676]

Hi there :) As someone who drives a lot for business, the range has always been an issue for me. When Tesla came along with the Model S, I could see that was a great proof of concept, but out of my price range. I live in Peterborough and used to have a client on the North coast of Scotland at Dounreay. When I went to work there, I used to drive from Peterborough to Inverness on a Sunday, which I used to do non-stop. I could manage it on a tank of petrol. Not because it was big or clever, just because I used to enjoy the drive, and never felt the need to stop. I must say, I have driven Saabs for years and they have, in my opinion, the most comfortable seats of any car. It used to take me eight and a half hours, but I never got out of the car feeling tired. Having said all of that. I would have been quite happy to stop once in a Tesla say around Edinburgh and charged up. From Inverness, Thurso is still two and a half hours drive from there. So it was a Long journey! Now that the e-Nero and Kona are around, I think for 80-90% of the population who can afford a £30K car, range just shouldn't be an issue. Obviously, it will take a while for these cars to filter down to people who can only afford to spend £10K or less, but for 50% of people, a 100 mile range is perfectly acceptable and these are becoming more and more affordable for people on the secondhand market. Great vlog of a real life journey and what it means in a Nissan Leaf!

[@DannyThompson54]

Epic. Loved watching this video. Not sure I'm up for that kind of distance in my 30kWh, well at least not with anyone else in the car with me. There's something to be said for a journey that involves a bit of challenge and mystery. It puts the spark back into travel.

[@computerbob06]

The Kona and E-Niro would be good enough range, if we had loads of 350kw chargers around. My pee stop distance is probably around 3 hours, so maybe about 200 miles. So 230 real world miles range would be plenty if I could charge the car in 10 to 20 minutes.

[@Chilukar]

Kona/niro should be fine for that. 200 mile range for an 80% charge, less than 30 min to charge to 80% (with 100kw charger).

[@Chilukar]

@@stevezodiac491 As far as I am aware pod point and Alfa Power have 100+kw chargers already installed. I dont have the exact locations though (I dont live in the UK so dont keep up too much with the details.) They are also rolling them out nationwide and have plans for a decent sized network.

[@richardpetek712]

@@stevezodiac491 Currently. Look what Ionity is doing, and this is a result of (I think) some 8 months. Wait for a year or two and there will be enough of them. Add a Kona or e-Niro and you can drive (nearly) like a petrol car. ionity.eu/ Charging time? 30-40 minutes, depending how high the state of charge should be. They are not Teslas, but ... close.

[@countteddy]

off to south London next week , from the west country using the A303 , in my 24kw ENV , I must be mad !!!

[@RWBHere]

Thanks Andy. Most entertaining. Useful information too. For the record, in a small car, with family, my comfortable range is about 400 miles, and it would be at average speeds which are not much faster than yours. Breaks are essential, at least every 150 miles, especially with female passengers. The 'Tetley Effect' is strong with them...

[@skepticalmechanic]

Must have been a fun video to make… thanks for sharing!

[@brandybeckydoc]

Watching this in Feb 2020 but I just loved it...It was sooo funny in parts...

[@willlehrfeld457]

Loved the video, just bought a 2015 LEAF S and love it.

[@chapo335]

Well done on the journey... just my wife and daughters go to the Republic of Ireland every year...... we journey from Nottingham to Hollyhead then ship it over to Dublin then journey to Kerry, the amount of electric charges is as many as two chargers. The amount of chargers should be more and over in the Republic of Ireland in Kerry I've only saw one electric charger and that is at the port where the boats arrive... there might be another at Barack'O' Barmer's stop, but that is about 45 minutes to a hour away from the port... So I guess in Ireland they need updating big time... (There may be more charging stops, just the way we go there is the fastest way, it takes us 12 hours, but that includes the ship journey.)

[@nicholashills6972]

got to be honest, been looking at a range extender, namely, a Vauxhall ampera, it's got a very short battery range (which is going to be fine for my daily commute) but on longer journeys, using the extender engine it should prove to be a lot more convenient. They stopped making these because they didn't sell, but if they sold them now I think they would sell also it would help to bring people over to a full EV later, once they got used to plugging in.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

lol at a BMW i3 with a rex.

[@bornakovac7857]

Love the video! Thnx mate definitly buying an older 2013-2014 leaf! A friend of mine has a 2013 zoe with the smaller battery owned and I kinda like it but now I know that the leaf is a better choise.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

I have the 30kWh Leaf remember, not the 24.

[@bornakovac7857]

@@ElectricVehicleMan Great! No problems, thank you! So how many km can you realisticly do with a full charge or with 80%?

[@babylon540]

Great video. Thanks. I chickened out and used the free loan car offer from Nissan to go from Southend to Southamtion. I found that there are a lot of charges on the way and at Ikea just next to our hotel. I might pluk up the courage to take my 24kw Leaf next year.

[@MargatePete6137]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ WOW that's a loooooong time All the best...............Peter.

[@keithwilson1554]

In Australia where long journeys are more common they ask drivers to stop every two hours its called "Drive,Revive, Survive" . Up until the mid 1990's I recall many ICE cars had range anxiety as most couldn't go past 500 klms or 300 miles and in the 1970s/80s not many petrol stations were open after dark in country areas. When I was a young man I had a Honda Civic with about a 500 klm range if I was careful I would drive 5 hours straight before stopping especially on trips between Sydney and Melbourne just over 1,000 klms (600 miles). The longest trip I did just stopping for Petrol and food etc was 1,700 klms in one journey the highlight was on a bend where it looked like I was approaching a Semi (Lorry) but at the last minute another Semi Lorry was trying to overtake it and I literally drove between them in my 1975 Honda Civic...there was no shoulder to this part of the road only two lanes and raised up off ground level as it was going across a flood plain. But there was just enough width for the three of us. I had also just picked up a Hitchhiker who freaked out and asked to be dropped off at the next town. I have been following EVM for a few years as he struck me as a very commonsense person. We can import used Nissan Leaf's usually from Japan but I'd prefer ones from the UK as they have the 6.6 kw charge option (Japanese none have it ) and everything is already in English. But they are usually higher priced. Shipping is almost the same cost.

[@keithwilson1554]

Sorry the slogan was "Stop Revive, Survive".

[@plugandplayEV]

Epic... and makes me feel much more satisfied with our US road trips in the Bolt :-)

[@danwiddon3854]

Good illustration of the benefits of using your Leaf for that journey. The 11% piece to camera revealed you did the daylight leg without the heating to keep you warm. I suspect the removal of the jacket (hinting at increased heating) took your faux range anxiety up more than having extended the leg. Point proven!

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Heat was on throughout and quite frankly makes little difference. As for the jacket, I never took it off so I’ve no idea what you’re talking about.

[@frankdart5508]

I looked at the Hyundai site today and just for fun I built my new 64kw car with the nice range that would save me an hour or so on your journey. All nullified somewhat by the 52 week wait for delivery !

[@MarkGaudie]

Sounds like my ideal road trip. Scotch Eggs and plenty of comfort breaks. 👍

[@TheOilBurner]

Last time we went further afield in cold weather in our 30 kWh we only got to 77 miles before dropping down to 8% battery and needing an urgent and unexpected charge to get home. That was driving at 60 mph with heating at 22c, so I'm curious how you're doing better than that.

[@bobi2582]

Me too.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Light foot, use the speed limiter (not cruise) and drive by looking ahead.

[@TheOilBurner]

Must admit we were being a bit careless on the accelerator around town. I guess I could be more careful to eek out the miles. Can't beat a good Scotch Egg BTW, I'm a big fan too, but they do make a mess lol

[@anthonyhamilton2250]

@@ElectricVehicleMan i always use cruise on D or B(depending on traffic) with eco aways on. Please explain the how or why the limiter is better option ( 30KW leaf my average 12.6KW/100 km summer 15kw 100km winter (so far )

[@MCSMIK]

Would be good to see the summary of cost. As you did quite a few stops. Polar at 10p/kWh I guess not that much but ecotricity with 30p is bound to be less cheap overall

[@dcvariousvids8082]

Aleksandr Vysockij He’s running a 30kWh Leaf, (25kWh useable. Presumably the trip started with a full charge, at Woodall Services, there was 33% charge left and he’d driven 70mi, so apx. 100mi range. With a very small margin of error, say he’s using 24kW of each charge, not including what’s left. Even at 30p/kW, that’s just £7-20 per 24kW. And he’ll get 100mi in winter driving. Name a fossil-burner, that’ll travel 100mi on £7-20 worth of petrol or diesel. Plus for every mile/km traveled in a fossil-burner, the engine is also burning a small amount of oil, is wearing its various drive belts, shortening the life of the exhaust, plus pumping out end-user particulates and various gaseous pollutants. This car is evidenced to have a real world winter range, of 100mi per charge. Given the figures above, that’s 600mi = 6 charges at £7-20 (if costed at 30p/kW) meaning the total journey’s fuel cost would be £43.-20. But he’s probably a Polar Plus member and thus be paying a reduced equivalent pence/kW. Making the journey even cheaper. At the video’s start, he’d done the sums and costed this trip at apx. £20-00, which means he’s paying around 13.9p/kW.

[@RWBHere]

DC, at least one charger was on free vend, presumably on each leg of the journey. Andy's estimate will be about right; he's a Yorkie, and that's an essential! For the record, our small fossil car does about 60 mpg (100 km per 4.5 litres) if driven carefully. That's about £10 per 100 miles/ 160 km, at today's prices. In a bigger car, that would be at least £20. For fuel alone. We'll have an EV for our next car.

[@anthonyhamilton2250]

Ecotricity is 30p a KWH but with 50%+ of their charging points on free vend Id say the average cost (taking into account freevends) is around the same as polar

[@vinnieomahoney6359]

Anthony Rycyk where do you find free vend chargers

[@stuartburns8657]

@@dcvariousvids8082 Hmm, I own 2 fossil ICE vehicles. Not to rain on the EV parade, but my Nissan Qashqai (1.5 Diesel) did a 300 mile round trip with over 50+mpg @ a steady 65 mph. Started the journey with half a tank, didn't refuel until home and under a 1/8th of a tank left. Half full was £30. Below calculation link a bit generous, so if I said it cost about £20~ that would be fair. 2hr 15 min journey each way. Didnt need to stop and didn't need to spend a small fortune on coffee and snacks while waiting. I DO like the EV idea, but it's not within my affordability bracket just yet. I'd have confidently got the same result with our more venerable Fiesta 1.4 diesel, but with less comfort. Both of the above where picked to maximise mpg within our price bracket, and stand up well in comparison it seem 👍 Wear and tear vs EV's does appear to be inferior. However, between my remaining loan repayments and fuel we put into the Nissan each month (fiesta paid off) its only costing £275pm Simply no way I could get a similar sized / spec'd SUV sadly close to that from what I've researched. Then add the battery lease charges that most seem to come with (another £60pm) and its so far the wrong side of viability as to laughable. Shame really, but the % of drives who can afford a regular (3 year max?) Vehicle upgrade in the price range of say £30-45k isn't going to make much of a dent in the CO2 issues. Its a good start, but the cascade effect to the lower end of the market (ie biggest %) of vehicles in the 5-15k range isn't sufficient www.fleetnews.co.uk/costs/fuel-cost-calculator/?FuelType=Diesel&PencePerLitre=125.82&Mileage=100&ManufacturerId=17&ModelGroupId=127&DerivativeId=40269&Mpg=50

[@stevezephyr]

Haha, a brave man in a short range Leaf but all credit to you. I'm getting a 64kwh Kona next month, my very first EV, I'm looking forward to it, especially the savings over my Leon 2.0 FR DSG, (I do love this car though), £12 a week charging over £50 odd in petrol is very appealling. Great channel by the way even if you are in foreign lands, greetings from Lancashire :-)

[@skepticalmechanic]

Got my Kona ev 3 months ago and I absolutely love it! I get over 300 miles on a charge!

[@AngelFix]

Nice video and nice car. Greetings from Bulgaria.

[@SWR112]

Strange I live in Scotland but one of my usual trips is North Yorkshire 260 miles. It would be a nightmare as charged points look an issue but that may just be not looking well enough. Certainly no Tesla SC. This is why I feel a EV that does 300 plus real world range would is the sweet spot. Three hours not stopping is a killer, why would you not stop and stretch your legs and have lunch. Pity you don’t live next door I’ve done a few of these kind of drives with a friend who knows I’ll just come for the fun of it😁

[@michaelgoode9555]

A very useful video. Thanks for making it.

[@Walterp60]

I've thought finding a charger on route, and it being free might be a problem. Still getting an EV this year regardless.

[@Turtytreeandaturd]

I remember I did Dublin, Wales, Bolton and Dundee in a 24kwh. I was visiting friends and family, collected some tyres in Bolton, it took 21hrs. On the return journey I went via Belfast, 8 hrs.👍 Never will I do the Wales run again 😂

[@benfreeth2360]

Thanks for posting the video. Been watching for 4 months now and you’ve definitely been part in persuading me to an EV. On a random note, where did you get your flooring from? I’m looking to tile out my garage too.

[@countertony]

I'm planning on borrowing my dad's 24 kWh Leaf for a holiday doing Bedfordshire-Worcester, Worcester-Usk-Swindon and Swindon-Bedfordshire. Dad already has an Ecotricity Membership, so I figure I'll get myself a Polar membership for the duration and between the two of those I should be OK...

[@solentbum]

I did do a 440 mile trip in Feb a couple of years ago, to collect a parcel. Started at 0600, charged three times on each leg, got home 1930 cost was £6. I did the identical trip a couple of weeks later in a diesel Time was only three hours less , cost was £38. I find that I make several stops whatever car I am in, esp. if the wife is with me. All charge points should have toilets attached!

[@Lewis95xp]

Quick note: Cue not Queue. Cue is an instruction for something (usually an actor) to perform a specific task in media. Queue is to line up and wait for something. Very similar, but cue is media related. *The more you know*

[@kenbrowne7555]

Excellent video. I just got a 2017 Nissan Leaf 30kw. I agree with everything you have said. Did you use the heater on this journey? If you did, how often did you use it?

[@tbugg4073]

I agree 400 miles would be fine and I think light commercial vehicles would be fine with that mileage too.

[@lanceareadbhar]

As he said, 400 real world highway miles is the sweet spot which will probably be advertised as 450+ miles of range.

[@perttibackman9594]

Nissan leaf works also with heavier temperatures. Here in Finland it got below 30 degrees this winter, no problems. I have a video where its -18.

[@robsmith1a]

That's pretty mad. I wouldn't fancy that in my Zoe (most I've done in a day is 370 miles on a cold day and I had two one hour stops).

[@batandball617]

Having driven a Nissan Leaf since 2013, we have now taken delivery of a Hyundai Kona EV. When I first got in to it to drive it home, It was very strange to look at the GOM that read 285 miles. The game has changed now, and even with a 64kwh battery the new Leaf e will struggle to match Kona EV/ Niro EV. The king is dead, long live the king.

[@peterclewes7073]

Not used a Polar charger for a while due to it being a monthly fee. So please tell me more about the Polar Ultra do they except contactless payment???

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Yes.

[@davidthornton3346]

I've always felt that the sweet spot would be 200 miles. Enough to keep you going without having to charge on a regular basis, and decent enough range for a long journey

[@emmadunlop5123]

Loving your work, do you have any views on the BMW i3s? I have recently ordered one and it is due to be delivered in November. We are classing it as our City Car as we also have a JCW Countryman for longer trips if needed. However, I will still be wanting to test the i3's range.

[@russellgilchrist3951]

So how many miles did you do, also the colts if you don’t mind please so would be able to calculate the cost of diesel against electric

[@otleybull]

I really like the Ioniq but the range puts me off a bit. Then I started making a note of the long journeys (100+ miles) I’ve made in a single day. From last June up to today I’ve driven 100 miles on two occasions! Most of my day to day driving is less than 50 miles so an EV with a range of say 150 would be perfectly adequate.

[@adamwhitrow5357]

What do you use to plan your trips? 🙂

[@dirtytrucker08]

400 ish miles is the sweet spot, from a charging point of view. Not for the range, because yes the person is the weak point, but if you're in a higher voltage and higher milage EV you're able to add high power where you need it without the worry of slower charging because you're in the sweet spot for charging more.

[@anthonyhamilton2250]

" & a very toastie battery" I have done 20 000 miles since June 2018 2500 miles a month in 250 to 600 mile chunks, with 3 to 6 rapid and possibly 2 low chargers per chunk. Winter is easier on the battery on long journeys but in Summer 500 miles or three rapids is about all im prepered to do as I have yet to go into the Red temp zone.

[@PabloTBrave]

Think 300 miles motorway speeds in winter is plenty range for almost everyone and that would probably also factor in 15% battery determination over the lifespan of owning the car. Having said that when the Infrastructure is in place and 150kw chargers are the norm that range can be reduced to around 250

[@peterjamesroberts-thejolly2860]

Loved thr vid.... Is Scotch egg your answer to Sticky Rice.

[@moebees3060]

Hopefully the model 3 will be in the UK soon.

[@colincampbell3679]

Ah the food dropped problem in cars! Sounds like you need to have, either a hand held vacuum cleaner which you plug in to the car's cigarette charger port using it's adapter, Or use a charged up battery only hand held vacuum cleaner to get those pesky crumbs of lost food using a narrow long crevice tool to get into those tight slim gaps near the seats? ( if you use the plug in travel vac best use it when your charging up the EV to save using up the battery! : ) Just a idea?

[@peterdnreynolds777]

Thanks for another great video. Do you know anything about these electric car companies that you can rent for the hour/day such as e car club, bluecity and Zipcar??

[@iro-huncarguy8367]

The battery temp is surprisingly low (after 600 miles) but then again so is the outside ambient temp. I wonder how bad it would've been to do the trip I usually do in my i3 over the summer from ireland to Hungary. That is impressive though I'm not gonna lie. Great Job

[@ashleyhouse9690]

Interesting but some stats regarding charge times and average driving speeds for each leg or even just overall would have been useful.

[@FancyaBevMate]

If only we all had an etron fast charging to 100 percent ;) but those rattles would drive me nuts ;)

[@lanceareadbhar]

For those that don't know, Nissan hides 6% of battery so when you hit 0% you still have roughly 6% left before turtling.

[@k50kwl]

I noted with interest that the Ecotricity charger had been shut down by the emergency stop button. I had the same problem at 3 chargers on the M6 North. Two of the chargers restarted, but the charger at Gretna rebooted but the app would not connect. Is it just coincidence or is there some Pro Fracking warrior trying to disrupt EV drivers.

[@glenreidy]

The old scotch egg excuse haha

[@attilab.2818]

What speed were you doing during this journey and did you slow down when you were below 11%?

[@PabloTBrave]

Think 250 -300 miles motorway speeds in winter is plenty range for almost everyone and that would probably also factor in 15% battery determination over the lifespan of owning the car

[@1701_FyldeFlyer]

Nice one. Destroys some of the myths about EVs not being practical.

[@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489]

When 82 miles range rated SparkEV can do 650 miles in 16 hours (1.5 hours less than 600 miles with this 30 kWh Leaf), this trip is not much a surprise. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2exn2SlZZ6CepY Sad thing is, new 40 kWh Leaf would probably be even slower due to battery getting too hot even in -9C ambient temperature.

[@jacobcarlson4010]

Holy actual **ck; that battery temp was just under the red zone! Apparently DCFC puts too damn much heat into the pack, even in winter conditions! I mean, my 30kW Leaf's battery barely gets to 5 bars of heat; and that's only after multiple full-throttle starts! Yes, I know how hard that is on the battery; but it's always a good idea to know what your car can do.

[@ram64man]

Mate have a look under your bonnet at the hvac lines to see if they have ice on them after 20 mins on for me and help fancy a bev mate out I can’t remember seeing this on the 30kw leaf but please check

[@alanloosley3832]

Hi Great video as usual is there any facilities driving your car in Europe. I heard a rumour that BP are putting electric charges in the garages,

[@paulcox4369]

Very interesting you have more nerve than me! On a completely different subject it would be very interesting to know your views on the Ovo vehicle to grid scheme specifically for the Leaf, could you really run your car for free, would it shorten the battery life, would you do it?

[@lucapacino8831]

Out of curiosity how many miles did you do on 80% battery between charges?

[@ianmathieson65]

Interesting stuff as usual, many thanks. “My back’s killing me”. Does that imply the seats aren’t as comfortable as they could be? I’d be happy with a real world range of around 140 to 150 miles from 100% charge at home to a first rapid charge at about 25% and around 100 miles between rapid charges from 25% to 80% en route. Anything more seems unnecessary to me as taking a break is a good road safety benefit by avoiding fatigue, and 25% residue still leaves the option of reaching the next charger if the first is out of order. Trouble is I can’t afford an EV which meets this spec!

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Seats are comfy but that day started at 6 and ended at 23:30!

[@ianmathieson65]

Electric Vehicle Man: Ah, that explains it - an exceptional time behind the wheel. Many thanks.

[@3002534]

Hi. So what was the financial cost in the end?

[@russiandrivers9986]

Are you finding that as they install more charge points, it's easier to stop at the optimum distances (i.e. at exactly 80 miles from departure point and then every 70 miles or so)?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Yes.

[@paulclapton7803]

Good video , If I had the funds I would buy a 2nd hand BMW i3 rex , the other problem I have ,I live on old fashioned road with no drive ,so home charging would be difficult with out parking all over the pavement and blocking it .

[@clarksonbarry]

2nd hand BMW i3 rex - nice but only 4 seats.

[@paulclapton7803]

@@clarksonbarry not a problem for me , only me and 1 son .

[@bobi2582]

Hi, I really like the idea of a used Leaf but am put off by the lack of battery temperature management. I agree with all you have said about regular stops etc but doubt if you could have done the same on a hot summers day without using that Holiday Inn. I fly large LIPO powered model aircraft and in winter you get reduced duration and in high summer, overheating. What are your thoughts?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

In a Leaf30 a 300-350 mile journey is pretty easy in summer. That’s almost London to Edinburgh.

[@bobi2582]

@@ElectricVehicleMan So that would mean about 4 - 5 top ups each way. From what I understand is that after a couple of stops the batteries will be too hot and therefore only trickle charge. It's going to take hours per stop. Sounds like a 3 day trip to me 😎

[@cjmillsnun]

@@bobi2582 it isn't an issue in a Leaf 30. In a Leaf 40 it might be an issue.

[@bobi2582]

@@cjmillsnun Really? Why is that?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

3-4 stops. Won’t be an issue in the 24 or 30.

[@randywest4675]

Very sensible comment about taking breaks on a ten hour journey 🤓

[@ianlove3]

Nice one

[@realcheshirewags1965]

How long does it take to charge to 80%?

[@TheEVside]

Great video and proves once again you can indeed do long journeys in an EV

[@be236]

I have LEAF 2017 and get nervous when I need to do a 100-mile trip (eg, need to plan for chargers along the way)... So my next EV will likely be Kona Electric or Niro-EV, they should arrive in "the states" in a few months...

[@densek510]

webasto heater may help for ze0 especially

[@niceboy60]

MY family Diesel has a 820 miles range (60 bucks) , I get it no one will drive for 12 Hours straight however is nice to choose : 1- When to Stop 2- How long to Stop for 3-Having the Choice to skip stops If you don't feel safe or if the place looks like a Horror Movie, . In my opinion Driving a Diesel is cheaper on Long journeys , Surely Stopping once, is cheaper than stopping around 18x to complete 1200 miles return journey

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

I get what you're saying but EV's are undoubtedly better for day to day driving and commuting (and way cheaper) so in my head your family derv is less convenient and more costly for 90% of journeys but more convenient for the other 10%/long journeys. Most people can count on one hand how many trips they do above 300 miles in a year, meaning half of your fuel tank is almost always redundant (if you get me).

[@niceboy60]

@@ElectricVehicleMan Do you mantain your £20 costs estimation for 1200 miles EV driving? I mean that is around 1 pound per charge??? 🤔

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

I did 600 miles, not 1200? At home I pay £1.35 per 100miles.

[@bdeithrick]

2023. Now the mini is cheaper to take. 😜

[@niceboy60]

How much of an EV range is usable? I mean take away cold weather loss, Heating Loss , reserve to find a Charger + only Charging to 80% on Motorways?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Depends on the range of the car. Remember you set off with 100% so the first part is from full. So on a 200mile trip even in my Leaf30 it would only need one stop. It also doesn’t matter what you end up with at the destination so can run it down more. The 30Leaf is roughly 1 mile per %.

[@niceboy60]

@@ElectricVehicleMan your Leaf seems to be most efficient than most Leafs, in freezing conditions with the heating on, 100 miles range is impressive in this challenging conditions.

[@djhvideo]

It might have been helpful to give some facts at charging points. Charge Speed, Charge time, total kwh charged and cost of charging on the various networks you visited

[@relaxnchill9335]

enjoyed that

[@xperyskop2475]

Hi. I have 30kw Leaf unfortunately without heated mirrors seat or steering wheel. Did anyone know about a company or Individual who will be able to upgrade it for me?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Cheaper to sell the car and buy one with them on.

[@wobby1516]

600 miles? Not for me its a long time driving. I would need 2 days a 🏨 and a decent meal or two , but then I’m an old 💨. Still it shows with a bit of planning anything’s possible.

[@niceboy60]

Well what's wrong with being able to shoose, when to stop, how long to stop & where to stop as supposed to being Forced to stop?

[@The_Hero_Is_Back]

I did laugh: “please work!” Is probably the most used phrase used by people standing by chademos. I assume it’s a 30kwh Leaf and not a 24?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Yes.

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

When you look at the cost you have to factor n wear and tear and depreciation of the extra mileage.

[@ghost70]

Once they get too 400 miles plus then its a real interesting dilema. I need300 range as can drive that in 1 go ( london - Morpeth) and would like that safety gaptobe safe.

[@chrishartley627]

in france they have what they call 'piepie rustique'

[@amjr7607]

Very informative. Keep up the leaf related content. One question, did you consider renting a longer range EV for this particular journey? In California we have a rental car app that allows you to rent cars from other individuals in you area. I am curious if this tactic would have saved a little time without expanding the cost too much... thanks again

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Cost would’ve wiped out the reason for the journey.

[@isoconfused8744]

I dont yet really understand Ev's yet... explain to me why it is better both in savings and the environment to buy a new Citigo Ev for example for lets say 19k? where you can buy a used 1tr petrol with 20k miles for around 3k cash... that costs £11 for 100 miles fuel.. please explain to me why a new EV is better financially to run, and to the environment.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Iso Confused Just watch the channel. It’s all in there. And no one ever said it was cheaper to compare a brand new car with an old used one, apples and pears!

[@isoconfused8744]

@@ElectricVehicleMan so I don't see the appeal? If it's no greener and no cheaper.. where is the incentive for the inconvenience, from both manufacturer and government?

[@alanshaw5286]

Great job as usual at promoting the use of EV's. Hopefully, this video will convince a few more people to consider an EV