$6000 Carbon Fiber Spoilers vs Plywood

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@n0pe213
@n0pe213 2 жыл бұрын
After seeing how expensive this season is, it makes a lot more sense why some of the other series went away and why it took so long to produce this. Love to see it!
@hotgarbagellc
@hotgarbagellc 2 жыл бұрын
Bring back science garage
@aaronburratwood.6957
@aaronburratwood.6957 2 жыл бұрын
@@hotgarbagellc I miss Bumper to Bumper myself
@RENO_K
@RENO_K 2 жыл бұрын
i mean tbh up to speed was a low budget series and i think that they wanna step it up more and that's why it went away it was good early on to grow the channel and the brand but they're evolving into something better
@megachonk9440
@megachonk9440 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronburratwood.6957 Yeah, B2B was good, and well suited to letting Jeremiah's nerd flag fly while making complex engineering concepts a lot more approachable. Also, this is the best description of the Otto Cycle ever: Suck. Squeeze. Bang. Blow.
@brucebonner3491
@brucebonner3491 2 жыл бұрын
Well and the simple fact that society is as braindead as it could possibly be these days, and majority don't understand how the platform even works. Most people think everything is LIVE or present day was filmed within just a day or two. Not grasping that most channels film their "episodes" weeks to months before hand. Cause we know this whole hi-Low was starting being filmed in May/June and probably ended by August. But yet people think this is all done just last week in the beginning of December
@bhcamaro2002
@bhcamaro2002 2 жыл бұрын
Should've saved that $6,000 for the next engine 😂
@alf3071
@alf3071 2 жыл бұрын
are all subarus rally cars that bad?
@Beastintheomlet
@Beastintheomlet 2 жыл бұрын
@@alf3071Yes and No, the engine design is flawed and they are very easy to destroy but as far as we’ve seen they haven’t done some of the tried and true methods of preventing the oil starvation issues Subies have when taking hard corners. One of the biggest is using an aftermarket oil pan with a baffled design.
@raulins100
@raulins100 2 жыл бұрын
@@alf3071 stock the engines will last long, modding them you need to be careful and spend money on mods to support the extra power
@Gabrong
@Gabrong 2 жыл бұрын
Porsche Boxsters are available at around 6grands, just sayin. PORSCHES FOR THE NEXT HI VS LOW !!!
@joec3090
@joec3090 2 жыл бұрын
@@alf3071 They're god forsaken junk piles and it boggles my mind how they have such a big following. If Nissa Altimas had a huge following, everyone would be scratching their heads.
@foxisretrofitting4556
@foxisretrofitting4556 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked Nolan's attention to detail on where the vortex generators actually needed to go for his application. I've always thought it was strange that they seem to always get put above the rear window whenever a spoiler was used. Nolan looking back at his "test" footage and going ahead and putting the gens on the glass where it looked like they needed to go according to the yarn movement is a real big function over style and big brain move in my book. That low car front splitter made from a template copy and plywood was the jam as well.
@Camburger
@Camburger Жыл бұрын
I'm critical of vortex generators. I wanted it to work for them, I think the tiny model was too small to represent the full scale effect since the air particles weren't shrunk down as well. Random question, are spoilers any use to FWD cars? I don't enjoy hating on some people's builds, I'm trying to be better lol
@realakj05
@realakj05 Жыл бұрын
@@Camburger I’m not quite sure. Like yea they work for all cars but I feel like you’d wanna focus more on maybe a front splitter over a rear splitter. But if you can do both that’d be great too
@kristjancebulj8162
@kristjancebulj8162 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think those really do as good of a job as they could be doing if they are halfway down the rear window. Vortex generators make vortexes from laminar flow (that's where the yarn is still flowing straight), the air that's already turbulent (that's where the yarn is going crazy) is next to useless. They need to be placed where the flow is still laminar, to extend the point where it separates and becomes turbulent further back. Placing them where the separation (the point where laminar flow becomes turbulent flow) has already occured doesn't do much.
@lilgary9181
@lilgary9181 Жыл бұрын
@@CamburgerKeep in mind spoilers don’t make a noticeable impact until after about 70ish MPH. Running just a rear spoiler on a FWD vehicle will actually work against it because it’s taking downforce off the front tires which will be less grip. You would want the front lip in tandem with the spoiler so the whole car gets pulled down.
@dustinbrueggemann1875
@dustinbrueggemann1875 Жыл бұрын
@@Camburger The wind tunnel was only configured to measure lift, not drag, but drag is the only thing the vortex generators should really be affecting. They'd have to have used a horizontal force gauge to have shown if they actually meaningfully impacted the drag. Vortex generators are also much more apparent at higher speeds. Their tunnel was good as a proof of concept, but I highly doubt it was producing 120mph winds like the vehicle would experience.
@joebutler9755
@joebutler9755 2 жыл бұрын
The wind tunnel element of this video is absolutely awesome. Really cool to see genuine engineering principles being brought into this.
@garbagetrash2938
@garbagetrash2938 2 жыл бұрын
I've been enjoying the dual story lines. One team builds and another does some explaining/testing.
@someguy8542
@someguy8542 2 жыл бұрын
I know right we get to see the aero of a banana
@ur_mid_asf
@ur_mid_asf 2 жыл бұрын
that's why big papa jerry is by far my favorite, that lil engineer brain of his and the knowledge he had taught me👌🏽 he is him.
@TheDeadPhish1980
@TheDeadPhish1980 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. The wind tunnel story line accompanying the installation of everything was rad. Great work Donut!
@deadlyrefuge
@deadlyrefuge 2 жыл бұрын
This is what makes Donut better than some other car channels. They have an actual engineer working for them (Jeremiah). So we can see this type of content! It's awesome!
@cyril2011
@cyril2011 2 жыл бұрын
I love how they utilize the talent at doughnut, James, the personality and spokesperson, Zach, all star mechanic, Jerry, the engineer who explains things, and Nolan represents us, the frustrated enthusiasts who is Ballin on a budget but you can see the frustration in his eyes but eventually turns to pure joy once he's finished.
@vincentlevesque30
@vincentlevesque30 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the editors which make an amazing job!
@vincentasher9903
@vincentasher9903 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t like Nolan at first, but i was in the wrong, he’s a cool dude, has extensive car knowledge, and he’s also one of the best drivers they have. Kudos Nolan, and my apologies for judging poorly, you’re the man!
@Cavemanner
@Cavemanner 2 жыл бұрын
And don't forget Garage Daddy Adam who brings the mechanical knowledge as well as being an actual professional racer to help truly test the builds on track.
@mythicalmining7999
@mythicalmining7999 2 жыл бұрын
And Jimmy
@stephenhodge6441
@stephenhodge6441 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed the roles perfectly. Especially Nolan. That might be why he is my favorite.
@dominicdipiero272
@dominicdipiero272 2 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah continues to be the most underrated donut team member, as an engineer I love this man, making learning fun is such a great talent to have and he’s got it
@alexdavis9324
@alexdavis9324 5 ай бұрын
He's not underrated anymore
@karma_monkey
@karma_monkey 5 ай бұрын
Well, this aged well. LOL
@manuelcabrera3329
@manuelcabrera3329 2 жыл бұрын
Man! That wind tunnel to show the improvement was an amazing idea. Kudos to whoever came up with it
@scissrface2182
@scissrface2182 2 жыл бұрын
1931: The world's first full-scale wind tunnel opens at Langley Field near Hampton, Virginia. 1936 Chrysler Imperial Airflow. The Airflow was the first American car designed using a wind tunnel.
@aarontimm
@aarontimm 2 жыл бұрын
I did
@chrismanley5656
@chrismanley5656 2 жыл бұрын
Came to say the same thing. You guys are legit, scanned and 3d printed then wind tunnel tested. Amazing dedication, brilliant execution. You'll inspired another generation of shed engineers and those now kids will push the game way forward.
@Peanutdenver
@Peanutdenver 2 жыл бұрын
@@scissrface2182 Mate those are a couple of really good car fun facts...cheers.
@GavynPendleton
@GavynPendleton 2 жыл бұрын
New show idea: give each of the hosts their own budget to buy and modify any car they want with the goal of being fastest on track. It could be all the same amount, or you could do random drawings to see who gets different amounts. Everyone can take what they have learned from hi low and actually try and apply it. Also you can have some mandatory parts (safety equipment and paint jobs) that some of the budget has to go to.
@garrett2685
@garrett2685 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this idea!
@jaimespencer837
@jaimespencer837 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I'd watch TF out of this. It's like the way more expensive and car version of LTT's craigslist budget build challenges they used to do.
@tbugofficial
@tbugofficial 2 жыл бұрын
That would just be a private racing club, would get insanely expensive for the channel lol
@camcaffin8475
@camcaffin8475 2 жыл бұрын
Mad idea for a series
@michaelheckman3474
@michaelheckman3474 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaimespencer837 a car scrapyard wars would be kind of sick
@LucasSi919
@LucasSi919 2 жыл бұрын
Building your own wind tunnel and being able to explain all of this is just great! We love ya donut
@amorton94
@amorton94 2 жыл бұрын
Now we need another yarn "test" to see if Nolan's "vortex generators" work where they are!
@vincentasher9903
@vincentasher9903 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a great idea
@khris8736
@khris8736 2 жыл бұрын
Don't think it will. You want to generate vortexes whilst the flow is still attached, so where people normally put them. The flow is already separated where they are planning on putting them, hence they aren't as effective.
@amorton94
@amorton94 2 жыл бұрын
@@khris8736 I understand why they're typically placed where they are. Nolan placed his where he did based on his own evidence. I now want to see the same test done to see if his placement did anything, whether positive or negative. Do the same with Hi Car too.
@khris8736
@khris8736 2 жыл бұрын
@@amorton94 yeah deffo seeing it would be nice to see. My comments were more about what I would see on the follow up test. Based on experience, I would expect the change to be negligible due to the above comments. Seeing the follow up test on hi car would be really good to see and help visualise improvements.
@UpperDarbyDetailing
@UpperDarbyDetailing 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely @
@Sewerllama
@Sewerllama 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this series. Never stop. Definitely bring back Nolan and James discussing which mods were worth the money at the end.
@Robdutton91
@Robdutton91 2 жыл бұрын
Same I miss being told if more expensive means more better
@alexnabozny4895
@alexnabozny4895 2 жыл бұрын
For sure!
@edmonddrake1409
@edmonddrake1409 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever came up with the idea of talking about your sponsor while putting random objects in a wind tunnel is a freaking genius. You should adopt that strategy for every add. This is the first time I've ever watched an entire ad on donut and only one of a couple times I've watched a full add on any KZbin channel. I did watch decent chunks of the Uncle Jerry has and enough of the first car relationship therapy sessions to understand the joke, but inevitably fast forward to the show content. I'm an underground member so that's how I eased my conscience about not watching the ads. But I'll keep watching them if you keep doing cool stuff during them. I'll have to.
@shafferpatrick219
@shafferpatrick219 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, it was genius
@tradeka4206
@tradeka4206 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m absolutely loving that. It’s the most unobtrusive way of doing a KZbin ad that I’ve seen. It’s things like that that make Donut great!
@stephenhodge6441
@stephenhodge6441 2 жыл бұрын
That conclusion seemed really rushed. I liked how in the first season you sat down and asked each other "does more money mean more better".
@ndubitably
@ndubitably 2 жыл бұрын
The results as presented were pretty definitive though. The cheaper option was also the faster one and there didn't seem to be too much difference in installation. There didn't seem to be a lot of nuance to debate.
@emmanuelhpun
@emmanuelhpun 2 жыл бұрын
@@ndubitably Valid points, but it'd be fun as viewer to have more reaction than 2 sec conclusion
@TheBajamin
@TheBajamin 2 жыл бұрын
@@ndubitably This isn't correct though. I made a post about it. Its like putting a new wing on an f1 car and "only" gaining .1 second. Then claiming that low car must be better because it got 1.2 seconds. Makes no sense. High car is likely closer to the potential of the car overall so addons will have smaller gains as you get closer to the limit. Where high car was still 2.2 seconds faster on the same tires.
@ndubitably
@ndubitably 2 жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelhpun I generally enjoy those discussions, but this doesn't seem to be the test for it.
@shifty272
@shifty272 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBajamin exactly my thoughts
@ScottyFlysFast
@ScottyFlysFast 2 жыл бұрын
Donut dudes, I'm literally one class away from my Aeronautics degree and you guys (Jerry, but I'm sure everyone was involved in research) did an amazing job discussing the aerodynamics of cars, producing lift, and producing downforce. Keep up the good work!
@Jonasz314
@Jonasz314 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, as you can tell, the aero used on this type of car are really 'anti-lift' devices. It takes massive parts to actually generate any kind of downforce at those speeds.
@ScottyFlysFast
@ScottyFlysFast 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jonasz314 which is wild. If you’ve ever seen a plane with a “T-tail” it kind of looks like a wing on a car. That T-tail is actually generating downforce, or negative lift. It has to do to keep the dynamic stability of the plane.
@rage660
@rage660 2 жыл бұрын
In my mini moons of research I vaguely recollect a cancellation effect when combining a roof diffuser with spoiler. ?
@daveycash3479
@daveycash3479 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a cool degree man, congrats!
@ScottyFlysFast
@ScottyFlysFast 2 жыл бұрын
@@rage660 I’m not sure. I specialize in planes not cars lol!
@hazvanced3876
@hazvanced3876 2 жыл бұрын
Aeronautics graduate here, great video and the concepts were extremely well explained! One thing to note though for low team is that the vortex generators help keep flow attached by energising the flow while it is still attached so it can remain attached for longer. Putting the generators so far down won't really be helping as by that point the flow is already separating.
@golf398
@golf398 Жыл бұрын
Yea, they should have asked Jeremiah on that. Mechanical engineers have low level aero engineering in their curriculum, I think he would have caught that. Maybe that breaks the rules?
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Ай бұрын
Putting the vortex generators in the separated flow halfway down the window means they don't have a chance to actually _correct_ that separation. It's akin to putting a bandage on the skin _next_ to the wound. You want to generators in the smooth flow at top so they can create the vortices which will help the airflow going down the window.
@one_mans_film_3887
@one_mans_film_3887 2 жыл бұрын
Well now I'm less embarrassed of my DIY parts 😂
@matthewjohnson3518
@matthewjohnson3518 2 жыл бұрын
if it works and it works dont be embarrassed b proud
@dudewtf1776
@dudewtf1776 2 жыл бұрын
Don't ever be embarrassed about that. you're built, not bought. That's something to be proud of.
@Mikey.5000
@Mikey.5000 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t be embarrassed. DIY is part of the car game. Sometimes you have to make your own parts
@devileye2132
@devileye2132 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mikey.5000 he said less but yeah
@ShawnD__
@ShawnD__ 2 жыл бұрын
these series have gave me the confidence to just get the shit done 😂
@BatCaveOz
@BatCaveOz 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you guys would go back to the format that had Nolan and James discuss which mods they felt were most "worth it" at the end of each episode.
@Marcara081
@Marcara081 2 жыл бұрын
They couldn't here because they had no idea.
@biocta
@biocta 2 жыл бұрын
@@Marcara081 Well they haven't in any of the episodes, James is just saying "okay high car won this time" mostly off raw performance and I feel like value for money isn't even being considered in some of the episodes
@jonmadden59
@jonmadden59 2 жыл бұрын
That's for us to interpret and decide
@bigman7083
@bigman7083 2 жыл бұрын
@@biocta this series is def rushed and more haphazard then previous ones, i think it's because of all the stress and problems they have been having.
@biocta
@biocta 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigman7083 Oh yes it’s very rushed, it’s a shame, but it’s absolutely understandable considering they’ve been going through a new motor every episode. I hope whatever next season is they pick a car that’s actually reliable and we get a return to form of the last two seasons
@joshbrooks2660
@joshbrooks2660 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say this has been your best engineering explanation yet. It was simple and accurate and the wind tunnel was great! Jeremiah killed it
@schummi9988
@schummi9988 2 жыл бұрын
For me, this episode was one of the best from this season. It just had the right feeling, the right mix of knowledge, science and humor. The installations were shown in detail, easy to follow and understand, immensely explained but thrilling to watch at the same time. Great Episode
@christinabunbun9272
@christinabunbun9272 2 жыл бұрын
I love the new series, but I miss the parts at the end when everyone sits down and actually discusses each of the car's mods. Like the overall hassle of installing, and discussing whether it was worth the time and money, and if its even worth doing something similar yourself. I understand a lot of the info is in the video, but the overall conclusion for the part is a nice way to wrap things up. ps: team locar
@PaletoB
@PaletoB 2 жыл бұрын
Yea the endings feel a bit abrupt, but then they haven't exactly had a easy time and are probably crunching to make up for lost time.
@christinabunbun9272
@christinabunbun9272 2 жыл бұрын
@@PaletoB 100% yes. I think it's worth mentioning in case they think people don't miss it, but I would rather a video that actually releases than a video that takes months to polish
@jc0721
@jc0721 2 жыл бұрын
@@christinabunbun9272 There are deadlines to videos like these. I'm sure ebay motors sponsored this on the expectation the videos would come out around the holidays. They probably didn't have the ability to wait to release them.
@dannyhunter607
@dannyhunter607 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, I agree 100%. My favorite was the lsd episode of the z's
@samuelmartin865
@samuelmartin865 2 жыл бұрын
You are KILLING IT with the sponsor segments. I have literally never seen anyone do a better job of it.
@EnzyteBob117
@EnzyteBob117 2 жыл бұрын
As a former WRX owner, I was waiting for another catastrophe on track and the suspense did not disappoint! Good work, gents! The transparency of showing the down side is appreciated!
@mikeyo1O1
@mikeyo1O1 2 жыл бұрын
If these guys knew anything about subies, they could've avoided all the trouble from the gate, but they don't, they didn't, and they got what they deserved.
@juvedoo99
@juvedoo99 2 жыл бұрын
I almost got a WRX not too long ago. I’m glad I didn’t. They’re cool af but I just don’t want the smoke (pun intended).
@mattwhite7475
@mattwhite7475 2 жыл бұрын
@@juvedoo99 Subis aren't as bad as they have been represented on here. I like donut but if you got to someone who knows what they are doing with subis they can handle a good amount of power on 1 stock block.
@Cavemanner
@Cavemanner 2 жыл бұрын
This episode truly slaps! Jerry getting to nerd out and use his actual engineering with the mini wind tunnel, Nolan getting the satisfaction of mo money not being mo better, and no one blew an engine! Just lost a tire, which is stupidly minor in the grand scheme. Awesome episode, boys! 🍻
@jackstrutz
@jackstrutz 2 жыл бұрын
The effort this video took to film is felt and appreciated my dudes!!
@LeonardoCandu
@LeonardoCandu 2 жыл бұрын
Donut is the only channel that can make ads funny and watchable
@aBoogivogi
@aBoogivogi 2 жыл бұрын
Nah. Internet historian is much better at it although the content is completely different.
@anusername8350
@anusername8350 2 жыл бұрын
Tomska?
@kwamea.n1723
@kwamea.n1723 2 жыл бұрын
Vilebrequin !
@free4fire
@free4fire 2 жыл бұрын
Internet historian was already mentioned but I'm gonna add Ryan George to the list as well, those Ads are basically a second skit after the main one.
@Marcara081
@Marcara081 2 жыл бұрын
@@aBoogivogi Raycon good; wires bad.
@nephrium
@nephrium 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing Adam getting involved in low car. He's a get it done kind of guy.
@juliabui1264
@juliabui1264 Жыл бұрын
Jeremiah’s engineering integration into all episodes of this season have been fantastic!
@nathanpurcell6835
@nathanpurcell6835 2 жыл бұрын
Next Season can you switch the teams between high and low cars? I think it'd be entertaining to see how each of the teams reacts to now having to deal with the others parts considering how everything has gone so far. keep up the awesome work tho!
@leviof1996
@leviof1996 Жыл бұрын
Considering James is the Editor in Chief, head writer, and everyone's boss, i'm gonna guess he's going to continue writing scripts where he happens to be in hicar
@jooot_6850
@jooot_6850 Жыл бұрын
@@leviof1996 ☠️
@Gu1tarZer0
@Gu1tarZer0 2 жыл бұрын
I love that clip of James crashing every video, it's gold. He will never live that down hahaha
@xrepressiivproductionz8481
@xrepressiivproductionz8481 2 жыл бұрын
From what video is that?
@ProSkye59
@ProSkye59 2 жыл бұрын
@@xrepressiivproductionz8481 brakes
@chronk5636
@chronk5636 2 жыл бұрын
Since aero isn't entirely based on how it's made ( expensive materials etc ) but more on how it fits the specific track needs for the specific vehicle you want , half of the 6000$ should go to a consultation from a aerodynamicist for a custom made package. That would definitely show a better improvement on lap times.
@shinn43
@shinn43 2 жыл бұрын
I think the intention was for aero packages you can buy off the shelf rather than custom so the viewers/us can be informed whether we should spend the upcharge or spend conservatively.
@chronk5636
@chronk5636 2 жыл бұрын
@@shinn43 Fair enough. Even though, I doubt if anyone wanted to mess with that high of a price aero parts without running some type of simulation or testing. Otherwise it's not testing performance gain , but only the looks of it. Given the fact that they are building time attack cars , the splitter and the wing should have some type of tune. Aero is a very tricky thing were you could spend so much yet have almost no time gain at all if you don't plan/test. In fsae for example, some teams opt for not adding the weight of aero components just because the aero benefits don't "outweigh" the aero "gains".
@ElPants21
@ElPants21 2 жыл бұрын
Jerry carried this episode with the nuance of aero. More like this pls
@cuaveboscone
@cuaveboscone 2 жыл бұрын
This show has made me afraid of ever buying a subaru haha
@grammerpolicedeputy6913
@grammerpolicedeputy6913 2 жыл бұрын
Don't let it. These guys don't know enough about subarus to properly mod them for track purposes. Check out the latest Flatirons Turning podcast about why these guys keep blowing up these boxers and how these guys are doing things improperly and blaming the cars.
@lovingtennessee7726
@lovingtennessee7726 2 жыл бұрын
@@grammerpolicedeputy6913 that's like the guys arguing that the 6.0 powerstroke being a great engine. If you have go put $20,000 I do the engine to make it a good engine, it's a garbage engine.
@marcospadilla2406
@marcospadilla2406 2 жыл бұрын
@@grammerpolicedeputy6913 couldn’t agree more. Subaru’s are such fun and reliable cars if proper tuning and maintenance is done..beat the shit out of mine for 5 years and never blew a block
@amorton94
@amorton94 2 жыл бұрын
Good, it should. They're shit boxes and always have been. They just checked a few boxes which is why they're popular. Good aesthetics, AWD, turbo, manual, rally history, with the added bonus of sounding good (even though now they all sound like shit with equal length headers because it took someone 20+ years to figure out that unequal length was causing issues due to differences in exhaust back pressure). Add on top of that, you simply can't find one anymore that isn't clapped out. If you somehow do, you're paying stupid money. But as long as the subi fans keep buying shit cars, my cousin will have a good job fixing them, so keep on buying them! 😂
@jamesgravey
@jamesgravey 2 жыл бұрын
@@lovingtennessee7726 I guess every engine is shit then since race motors cost a minimum $20k on any platform 🤷‍♂️
@JordanPayneLV
@JordanPayneLV 2 жыл бұрын
Adding those under trays really took this challenge up a notch
@alexpaz7870
@alexpaz7870 2 жыл бұрын
Nolan’s jacket is sick, fits his Japanese mechanic look perfectly! Love the content can’t wait for the next episode
@MeesDeppe_Official
@MeesDeppe_Official 2 жыл бұрын
These sponsor sections are so good, makes me wanna watch em again instead of skipping
@hachimajig6062
@hachimajig6062 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I wish I was chosen. : (
@jon-umber
@jon-umber 2 жыл бұрын
Hail corporate
@ChrisK-bu3gw
@ChrisK-bu3gw 2 жыл бұрын
7:02 I study mechanical engineering at the university of Ingolstadt (hometown of Audi) and they taught us that turbulent air is better attached to an object which means that the vortex generators are way to much behind the “big curve” where the air starts to detach from the car. They must get attached shortly before the air starts to detach to generate turbulent air flow so the air sticks to the car for longer. Audi for example generated turbulent air on their DTM cars by glueing some kind of wires to the diffusor which allowed them to make the Diffusor steeper without detaching the air flow. Hence they had very slow air behind the car but very fast air unter the car.
@issacnewton9443
@issacnewton9443 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not even halfway in and this might be the best episode of Hi Low yet. I'm hoping Low team may be onto an advantage with the vortex placement and the $100 active aero on the trunk.
@pottsniffgrond8488
@pottsniffgrond8488 2 жыл бұрын
A bonus JerBear tutorial and a mini wind tunnel? This is a right slice of goodness! 👌
@freekozoid42069
@freekozoid42069 2 жыл бұрын
"We bought 7 nearly identical Subaru boxer engines" 😂 Thanks for your sacrifices guys lol
@RobertHarridge
@RobertHarridge 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to mention there is a reason why Subaru went with the roof spoiler versus the vortex generator on the 06-07 STi. It’s with the slope angle of the rear window pairing with the factory STi spoiler. The roof spoiler was able to redirect air more effectively down the rear glass, producing more air under the rear wing. The factory STi spoiler would shake like crazy at speed on the MY04-MY05 STi, but the spoiler shake was drastically reduced with the implementation of the roof spoiler. There may have been better results if the roof spoiler was utilized over the roof diffuser. Some may bring up the Evo having a roof diffuser. The reason it worked better for the Evo was the rear glass angle was less than the STi, the trunk lid was also longer, and the Evo VII, VIII, and IX had a more raked spoiler, where the STi was damn near vertical, so for the Evo, the roof diffuser worked efficiently, where the STi had more benefit from a redirection of air.
@johnkilo3
@johnkilo3 2 жыл бұрын
Good episode, especially with the wind tunnel. I do miss the ending where you guys break down whether or not spending more is worth it, though.
@leviof1996
@leviof1996 Жыл бұрын
they said in this video that low car won, spending was not worth it (low car actually performed better for cheaper--probably because fabricating besope aero from video analytics is better than buying expensive off the shelf stuff)
@thesuperkat943
@thesuperkat943 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, the scale model of the high/low trucks in the wind tunnel was a cool callback to the previous series at 4:50
@captaindelta43
@captaindelta43 2 жыл бұрын
Science garage was really one of the OG best series from Donut. But seeing these high low series it's pretty clear that it would have cost a lot to make other series simultaneously. Love this episode 😍
@andrewsang4688
@andrewsang4688 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like science garage was very cheap to make though. Just do some research, put together a slideshow, show off a couple parts, then you're good. This show seems so much more expensive.
@pv2smurf
@pv2smurf 2 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah is the reason I'm here. We need more of this guys engineering knowledge
@brandonfoltiny3943
@brandonfoltiny3943 2 жыл бұрын
Did a good job demonstrating friction and pressure drag with the model on this video. Having an engineering degree with an automotive concentration, this video was very enjoyable
@annieworroll4373
@annieworroll4373 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting ina high/low season to do a followup with a third car, where you take the expensive parts where you'd recommend them, and the cheap ones you'd recommend, and see how that car compares against high and low.
@saopaolodelacruz1007
@saopaolodelacruz1007 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, low and best of both worlds
@Youngstomata
@Youngstomata 2 жыл бұрын
So they need a Mid-car? I agree
@kristofermann2917
@kristofermann2917 2 жыл бұрын
the model diffuser demo was impressive. great job as always!
@benjaminyoung2403
@benjaminyoung2403 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@MrHSwager
@MrHSwager 2 жыл бұрын
I love the continued increase in the SCIENCE behind the equipment. I watch these with my boys to get them interested in STEM
@bednarekcharles9280
@bednarekcharles9280 2 жыл бұрын
“We are going to test these components HEAD TO HEAD and see who’s motor blows first this episode”
@adamsbja
@adamsbja 2 жыл бұрын
"We blew an engine so today we're talking about diagnosis and finding out how screwed we are." "...wait, is this a repeat?"
@liamgeary4341
@liamgeary4341 2 жыл бұрын
Are we eventually going to see a HiLow drag racing season? 👀 I’m honestly looking to put my life into Motorsports and automotive full time and the donut media crew has inspired me!
@C_F_M
@C_F_M 2 жыл бұрын
The better you get, the harder it is to improve. Loved the cinderblock in the wind tunnel btw lmao
@Beastintheomlet
@Beastintheomlet 2 жыл бұрын
Ok…. I have to buy a T-Shirt now, just to help fund Donut’s consumption of boxer engines in this series 😂
@deadheadg9632
@deadheadg9632 2 жыл бұрын
Might wanna buy a few lmao
@CwPlatapuZ
@CwPlatapuZ 2 жыл бұрын
The wing doesn't produce downforce from air pushing against it, but think of it like an upside down airplane wing. The air moves faster under the wing then on top, causing negative lift. This is controlled by the shape and angle of the wing, similar to a wing airfoil.
@V8_Diva
@V8_Diva 2 жыл бұрын
Spoilers are the ones that do that, right?
@JohnnyDoeDoeDoe
@JohnnyDoeDoeDoe 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the downforce is also from the angle of attack, as in airplanes as well
@Keestral
@Keestral 2 жыл бұрын
@@V8_Diva Correct but they also disrupt the air coming from the top of the car killing the lift that the body may be generating.
@13vex
@13vex 2 жыл бұрын
@@V8_Diva spoilers are designed for improving airflow, instead of increasing downforce. They’re useful for SUVs and hatchbacks since they have large, flat rear ends (2:30 negative space) which create larger negative spaces which reduces stability at high speeds. For simplisticities sake: spoilers improve a car with bad aerodynamics, a wing improves a cars downforce.
@V8_Diva
@V8_Diva 2 жыл бұрын
@@13vex I'm also referring to the massive spoilers found on stock cars.
@toddscars
@toddscars 2 жыл бұрын
I love how much of a rush production is once the track day rolls up, really seems like a time crunch
@loganemig8212
@loganemig8212 2 жыл бұрын
I love this new format of the video. It's like all your series combined. Jerry's explanations alongside you guys actually doing it, it's really nice.
@victoruzumaki130
@victoruzumaki130 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this episode you guys did a great job explaining aerodynamics in the simplest terms possible
@wormspeaker
@wormspeaker Жыл бұрын
Y'all did an amazing job on the wind tunnel segments. Threaded the needle of keeping it simple enough for the average viewer to understand, but in-depth enough to teach something.
@jzengotita90
@jzengotita90 2 жыл бұрын
Love how well the new high car color goes with low car.
@mikealberto504
@mikealberto504 Жыл бұрын
1- Wing Spoiler 2:17 2- Vortex Generator 5:05 3- Air Dam & Splitter 7:16 4- Undertray 10:27 5- Rear Diffuser. 12:17
@afterdark6116
@afterdark6116 2 ай бұрын
This season is the peak Donut content nobody talks about. Every episode is like a HiLow sandwich served with Money Pit sauce, and an order of Science Garage on the side. Legendary stuff
@vasiliypechenyy5021
@vasiliypechenyy5021 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to watch this. Great original content. Keep it up!!! Can’t get enough of you guys.
@YoursUntruly
@YoursUntruly 2 жыл бұрын
They get 10k from their sponsors.
@vasiliypechenyy5021
@vasiliypechenyy5021 2 жыл бұрын
Decent chunk of change
@jayceno384
@jayceno384 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Low is amazing as a series, it takes time and money and honestly seeing you guys taking hits like blown engines really hurts. You guys are busy but I kinda miss the style of older Hi Low. More relaxed, showing bloopers and racing on the track. The building takes a chunk of a vid I know but seeing the racing take only a few minutes makes me wish there was more. Miss the old Hi Low but great job either way!
@lilwinstonlilwinston4171
@lilwinstonlilwinston4171 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 15 and have learned most of the stuff I know about cars from donut big thanx to you guys
@jordanrooker8474
@jordanrooker8474 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be really interested to see Hi car and Low car in a wind tunnel now, I want to see if those lower mounted vortex generators made any significant contribution 😅 I also wonder if the big difference could have been caused by removing the entire bumper vs just the splitter, if that had a significant impact. Either way, awesome episode as always, Donut Media really is the best.
@fruitygranulizer540
@fruitygranulizer540 2 жыл бұрын
i doubt it. the strings there weren't flowing in the same direction not because of disrupted airflow, but rather a lack of airflow. and u want as much air to flow through the vortex generators as possible so u have as much clean air going to the wings. vortex generators already make a very small difference in aerodynamics, and if mounted where low car mounted them, i have no doubt they did absolutely nothing
@djs82a29
@djs82a29 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know what each car weighs before, and after all of these mods.
@xjustxin203x
@xjustxin203x 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the time you guys took to explain what each part does!
@aerobiks9882
@aerobiks9882 2 жыл бұрын
WOW the quality of the high car spoiler is way more noticeable!
@charlesfrancois2974
@charlesfrancois2974 2 жыл бұрын
To whoever reading this, never stop chasing your dreams you can do it. Keep pressing and thriving you will make it! Consistency is the key to achieve your goals.
@anongpornthip5872
@anongpornthip5872 2 жыл бұрын
Bitcoin trading is just like any other business but in this case more sophisticated and advanced.
@titilayoamidat8901
@titilayoamidat8901 2 жыл бұрын
A career in Bitcoin offers you the opportunity to earn a lot of money if you have the patience to learn the process and strategies involved or better still get yourself a professional broker.
@suzannecraig6824
@suzannecraig6824 2 жыл бұрын
Investing in Bitcoin may seem scary but know that it takes time and effort today understand how bitcoin works. If you understand the potential impact of bitcoin it won't be hard to understand why investing in Bitcoin may be a good idea
@farzamimani5339
@farzamimani5339 2 жыл бұрын
The quality of these videos are unmatched man
@DOIT4K3NWRT
@DOIT4K3NWRT 2 жыл бұрын
I love your guys videos but you need to do more research on these cars some of the parts arnt5the high end part you want and blowing your engines from no proper maintenance is giving subaru a bad name bc of it some of these people are actually saying they will get cheaper parts which is dumb bc your just gunna need to buy another one in a few months and rebuilding an engine and skipping the break in period just to blame the motor for your mistake is dumb again pointing the finger at subaru instead of at your self
@pierstonsalinas940
@pierstonsalinas940 Жыл бұрын
Love how technical these videos are
@TRHardware
@TRHardware 2 жыл бұрын
Windtunnel part added so much to this episode, amazing work!
@Shahabbi
@Shahabbi 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining what each aero part does on the car. Really helped with understanding why each part matters!
@jOoomOooo
@jOoomOooo 2 жыл бұрын
i am an engineer with a large back ground in fluid dynamics and this is really a pretty good explanation of concepts coming from donut like MOST of the time i was like "ok thats pretty good" stuff like "vortex generators" are just not dramatic to be impactful tbh
@DeadVibe_
@DeadVibe_ 2 жыл бұрын
4:51 sick volvo 🤍🖤🤍
@Gapped86
@Gapped86 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking this video was useless without a wind tunnel and then you invented a f*cking RC wind tunnel in scale. Respect to you guys quality over the roof👌🏻
@A_lame_shady
@A_lame_shady 2 жыл бұрын
This shows are so special. I'm writting an essay about cars and I decided to add ero dynamics and this video is helping me a ton.
@CStevenH
@CStevenH Жыл бұрын
Your videos are too good... I don't own a car, drive a car, know anything about cars, care about cars... Why have I been watching your stuff on spam, enjoying it, and learning... a lot. Props.
@testowykana1763
@testowykana1763 9 ай бұрын
First time I see this channel. Watched it, didn't expect it to be so thorough and high quality, the modelling part was super interesting. Loved it.
@NedTheDread
@NedTheDread 2 жыл бұрын
Much respect for building the wind tunnel and doing scale model stuff, that was super cool
@NunyaBiznez17
@NunyaBiznez17 2 жыл бұрын
This series just keeps getting better and better, good job guys! Side note: ALWAYS get along cuz the series just don’t work if anyone of you leave 😭 Idea: teams switch? Give Nolan high car and give James low car 😮
@jjlee69
@jjlee69 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Aerodynamics dumbed down to the right level for most of us. Now I'm off to buy some plywood.
@Edwin-k7xZ
@Edwin-k7xZ 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how James is never pretentious.
@shadmansudipto7287
@shadmansudipto7287 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, a video without a scam sponsor. Rare for donut media.
@cgarrett2212
@cgarrett2212 2 жыл бұрын
This series has been the only entertainment I’ve been watching lol , loved the Tacoma series
@nissan180typex
@nissan180typex Жыл бұрын
Best video of this series. Really liked the testing with the home made wind tunnel.
@gkrees9509
@gkrees9509 2 жыл бұрын
2:25 “redushing pressure” 😂
@EthisProtogen
@EthisProtogen Жыл бұрын
I like how they knew that putting a camera in the wind tunnel immediately meant we wanna see the camera's perspective of in the wind tunnel
@M0NEYYT
@M0NEYYT 2 жыл бұрын
i love these episodes so much
@TheAexer-ov9ks
@TheAexer-ov9ks Жыл бұрын
At 5:50, you aren't going to see much difference from those vortex generators at the speeds that your tunnel can test because your flow is already turbulent before it hit the vortex generators. Any additional vortices generated are so small that you won't be able to see them in all of the big vortexes. This is one of those cases where a scaled model doesn't help you much.
@leguera4440
@leguera4440 2 жыл бұрын
These guys literally have the best jobs on earth. I would work at donut media for free if I could, just to learn and do all this stuff.
@badidea5949
@badidea5949 Жыл бұрын
definitely my favorite episode of hi lo so far!
@pawe1359
@pawe1359 2 жыл бұрын
7:54 Lower pressure under the car means not bigger pressure above but bigger overall differential pressure?...
@tkj222
@tkj222 Жыл бұрын
The wind tunnel was fantastic! Loved it and wish I could get my car or a scale model of it in a wind tunnel or makeshift wind tunnel. Really do want that gains over look/money dump
@Official_BoredGamer..
@Official_BoredGamer.. Жыл бұрын
⬆️⬆️⬆️ congratulations You won🎁....
@deimosphob
@deimosphob 2 жыл бұрын
wood is actually a good material for high scrape areas like a splitter. If correctly secured, it doesn't bend like aluminum, doesn't frey and crack in a way that damages the structure like carbon, and is cheap as a sacrificial piece. Also why its great in the middle of a flat-bottom undertray on f1 cars whilst also being a good material for gauging rideheight at speed by wear for regulation. Also a lot of autox/timeattack guys do that sign material for all the aero, such as on the splitter and the diffuser. You can even bend it to do an underside wing like ground effect cars. Wood is great for side skirts to get them lower to the ground and thus create a better vacuum with the undertray.
@Sub_Giga_Chad
@Sub_Giga_Chad Жыл бұрын
Can I ask where this clip came from? 2:50 hahahaha one thing I like about low team is the amount of creativity, DIYs, and fabrication they put in
@monroyrobert
@monroyrobert 2 жыл бұрын
Who else was waiting for james epic abreviation of all the parts officially on! 14:16
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Both carbon fiber-reinforced plastic _and_ plywood are composite materials. A composite material is a combination of two or more materials designed so the strengths of one will overcome the weaknesses of another. With plywood, those differing materials are woodgrain set in alternating directions. In CFRP, the carbon fiber holds the epoxy resin together against tension and shearing forces.
@JamykaBailey
@JamykaBailey 2 жыл бұрын
Low car be killing it with the DIY mods. James looked cool at the end there when the day was coming to an end.
@ltownandfriends4531
@ltownandfriends4531 2 жыл бұрын
@15:57 not a fair comparison because you did low cars non airo run without a front bumper which would cause drag
drifting my beautiful m4 in tthe Motorfest!
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