60Minutes MIKE WALLACE & PRESIDENT GORDON B HINCKLEY

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@jameschamp1406
@jameschamp1406 7 жыл бұрын
Im not a Mormon myself but theres no denying that this man truly was sincere about what he believed.
@firstbaldwin
@firstbaldwin 7 жыл бұрын
REALLY ? Hinckley himself said that the story of MORmONISM'S founder sounds preposterous. Hinckley is the one who promoted faith over spiritually confirmed knowledge because he just could not be sure that MORmONISM was that correct. He was an absolute buffoon!!!
@jameschamp1406
@jameschamp1406 7 жыл бұрын
firstbaldwin He believes what hes saying just like most religious leaders. Common sense
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
...No. Your comments haven't been removed. No one's comments have been removed from any of my videos I merely read through all posts before they go up and sometimes that can take a few days. Sorry for the inconvenience.
@firstbaldwin
@firstbaldwin 7 жыл бұрын
OK, thanks, glad to see that my comment is still up. Some things that I do know is that comments could literally, actually be held up for years before trickling through for review in the youtube comment system.
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
I may not like what you say, how you say it, or why you say it. But I will allow you to say it. Just don't resort to vulgarities or slurs or glorified spam. I check for comments waiting review at least once a weak.
@liladebenhamwarren6169
@liladebenhamwarren6169 3 жыл бұрын
Being a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is hard but listening to Gordon B. Hinckley makes you realize how wonderful it is to be a part of something that pushes you to be a better person. He just radiates Christ-like love and understanding towards everyone. I grew up listening to him and I miss him. What an amazing person he was.❤️
@jaredslye3498
@jaredslye3498 4 жыл бұрын
President Hinckley was a very wise man. He also did a great job of relating to people outside the church and extending a hand of friendship to all.
@fabianasmith6097
@fabianasmith6097 5 жыл бұрын
I'm proud to be a Mormon member and Pres Hinckley was the man of God he spoke what he believed and the truth no matter what people say about the Mormons I only believe that I'm a daughter of living God and I will stand tall as a true witness of God
@icecreamladydriver1606
@icecreamladydriver1606 4 жыл бұрын
Life is about making choices and I am not sorry to have been raised in this church although during childhood we did not go to church as my dad was a jerk to put it nicely. My dear mother taught us about Jesus at home. She was an angel. I made a choice to live the teachings and it has been a blessing in my life.
@StefaneJaspering
@StefaneJaspering 6 жыл бұрын
I love that men hold the priesthood. I love so many things about the church. It really is the way. I've found my way back into the church. It's a beautiful thing
@jjtk717
@jjtk717 4 жыл бұрын
I have left the church but Gordon b. Hinckley was an amazing man
@kimberlyal-ajmi1888
@kimberlyal-ajmi1888 5 жыл бұрын
Such a well-spoken, yet witty man!
@jorgegandara984
@jorgegandara984 7 жыл бұрын
Gordon B. Hinckley: an extraordinary man
@adamgoodword7888
@adamgoodword7888 7 жыл бұрын
...and a false prophet!
@rshawlogan
@rshawlogan 7 жыл бұрын
I loved President Hinckley. Not only as a prophet but also as an exemplar man of pristine character and love. This was a man of optimism and sincerity who always strived to follow the Lord Jesus Christ, not in word only but by the way he lived.
@LexWoodard
@LexWoodard 7 жыл бұрын
I wish I had been a member when I was younger and Gordon B Hinckley was living. What a wonderful, intelligent, kind spirited man he was.
@gongoozleriam9783
@gongoozleriam9783 8 жыл бұрын
President Hinkley is wonderful!
@dodgerdave777channel
@dodgerdave777channel 7 жыл бұрын
Gongoozler I am ... this and other interviews and talks of President Hinckley reviewed here....Gordon B Hinckley a Prophet of God, Standing for Honesty & Integrity like unto Joseph Smithkzbin.info/www/bejne/l6uwc36VjMeEepY
@NGSHEKTIM
@NGSHEKTIM 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks God who gives us men such as the prophet Joseph smith......Gordon B. Hinckley & the living prophet Pres. Monson!!! These are mighty servants of our loving great god of the universe!!We are meant to be guided & return to them one day!!
@jakeave
@jakeave 8 жыл бұрын
An amazing man. He simply radiates light. All faithful people do.
@LDSRaichu
@LDSRaichu 7 жыл бұрын
So very true.
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
+John Blake If you want to comment, that's fine, however I don't allow vulgarities or slurs on my Channel. Please adjust your language accordingly or I'll have to delete your comments.
@dodgerdave777channel
@dodgerdave777channel 7 жыл бұрын
Jake Avery incredible president Hinckley the pr prophet...Gordon B Hinckley a Prophet of God, Standing for Honesty & Integrity like unto Joseph Smithkzbin.info/www/bejne/l6uwc36VjMeEepY .
@dodgerdave777channel
@dodgerdave777channel 7 жыл бұрын
LDSRaichuguy tell me how you like this one.. Gordon B Hinckley a Prophet of God, Standing for Honesty & Integrity like unto Joseph Smithkzbin.info/www/bejne/l6uwc36VjMeEepY
@silvereagle4903
@silvereagle4903 7 жыл бұрын
Mormon Church guilty of oppression of Native Americans. == www.hcn.org/issues/48.10/how-a-utah-county-silenced-native-american-voters-and-how-navajos-are-fighting-back Without Federal Court the Native people of Utah would have no rights.
@thomasjensen5028
@thomasjensen5028 6 жыл бұрын
"You haven't thought about it long enough!"
@krisstohl8106
@krisstohl8106 4 жыл бұрын
He’s like that father figure that makes you want to do what’s right. He stands on firm ground and is honest about everything he says. The Book of Mormon is true. If we all lived by it’s principles and teachings, what a bright and wonderful world we could have. Especially right now with covid19. One person can make a difference and that man was and is Gordon B Hinkley. I will not waiver and give into hate. I love my Heavenly Father and my own father for being awesome examples in my life. 😄❤️
@curlyfrys5279
@curlyfrys5279 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! There will always be those people in the comments, as frustrating as it may be, they will find their own way. And so will i.
@cameronemery6521
@cameronemery6521 8 жыл бұрын
Even in super biased newscasts like this I can still feel the Holy Ghost testify of the truth of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ.
@Riddec1
@Riddec1 8 жыл бұрын
+Cameron Emery How is it biased? It presented facts. Brigham said all that stuff. I thought that the Lord is the same today and forever and never changes. Guess he changed his mind. Sexual molestation occurs regularly. Millions to settle lawsuits have been spent by the LDS church. Do some research on the facts.
@gingerdurbin9425
@gingerdurbin9425 6 жыл бұрын
Silly Mike. I've spent my life as a Mormon woman surrounded by Mormon woman and have never known a woman who feels "oppressed". Wallace is trying to stir the pot.
@LDSRaichu
@LDSRaichu 7 жыл бұрын
I know he is a prophet. I asked God. Nothing can take that from me.
@dodgerdave777channel
@dodgerdave777channel 7 жыл бұрын
LDSRaichuguy I shook his hand nothing can take that either......Gordon B Hinckley a Prophet of God, Standing for Honesty & Integrity like unto Joseph Smithkzbin.info/www/bejne/l6uwc36VjMeEepY
@dodgerdave777channel
@dodgerdave777channel 7 жыл бұрын
Jon Blake then tell me what you think of this.. Gordon B Hinckley a Prophet of God, Standing for Honesty & Integrity like unto Joseph Smithkzbin.info/www/bejne/l6uwc36VjMeEepY
@silvereagle4903
@silvereagle4903 7 жыл бұрын
Jesus says he is not a prophet.
@prayingpatriot8018
@prayingpatriot8018 6 жыл бұрын
I love how Boyd KKK Packer admits that the truth harms the church and goes on to say, in essence quotes-"Don't teach the full truth to any member that hasn't yet been sufficiently indoctrinated to reject truths that may reveal the untruth of our doctrine. Doing so means YOU'RE FOLLOWING SATAN AND GOD WILL BE PISSED!!" Within the sectarian world of Mormonism, the fear mongering is obvious to anyone on the outside looking in. This is just one example of a blunder among many from these heretical echelons.
@nataly140
@nataly140 7 жыл бұрын
Miss President Hinckley. He was an optimistic, wonderful, happy and joyful man. Strong spirit.
@samblasian5236
@samblasian5236 6 жыл бұрын
nataly140 He was a liar
@wxwxwx7777777
@wxwxwx7777777 4 жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite people chatting. Amazing.
@pusswihongi
@pusswihongi 7 жыл бұрын
awesome
@Amalie.x7fv
@Amalie.x7fv 5 жыл бұрын
Just to clarify, we can drink caffeine haha, as well as church is 2 hours
@jennjeffs4893
@jennjeffs4893 6 жыл бұрын
I was raised in the Mormon faith, my brothers all being returned Missionaries, My grandpa is Gordon B Hinckleys cousin, my uncle is named after him being Gordon K. Hinckley.. I've seen alot in this faith, Some good but more bad than good. I went to church as a kid, I believed, I was baptized (against my will) When i was getting married I decided this religion was not for me. I haven't been to church in 20yrs.... I just dont agree with the religion but I also respect those that do.....
@annetted.9895
@annetted.9895 8 жыл бұрын
I wish people wouldnt lie about the lds faith.Its a good religion the true church of GOD!
@mavaega-ua-oo-i-nuuausala
@mavaega-ua-oo-i-nuuausala 7 жыл бұрын
Most demanding indeed.
@zippybadger
@zippybadger 7 жыл бұрын
The point is that Mormons are not like other people. And we are proud of it.
@adamgoodword7888
@adamgoodword7888 7 жыл бұрын
Pride is a sin!
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
Troll the Pride that is a sin is selfish human pride, know as hubris, not the general feeling of accomplishment or dignity.
@AMANOTAVANTA
@AMANOTAVANTA 7 жыл бұрын
I love President Hinckley! He is like a father to me!
@adamgoodword7888
@adamgoodword7888 7 жыл бұрын
why, did he molest you?
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
Hey troll, that comment actually qualifies as sexual harassment. You will be reported on by KZbin.
@joelegardner
@joelegardner 6 жыл бұрын
12:57
@chaywarburton2020
@chaywarburton2020 7 жыл бұрын
I know the Church is true. The only true church on the Earth. Also, no control comes from the church, just options and choices. The two best things.
@Roma-zm3ph
@Roma-zm3ph 7 жыл бұрын
Jon Blake hmm, maybe you should study into that. There's archeological and DNA evidence now that prove the history of this nation
@matthewtaylor6558
@matthewtaylor6558 7 жыл бұрын
The Book of Mormon is a testimony of Jesus Christ. We may not know where the exact locations of the Nephites, Lamanites, or the Jaredites on the American Continents, but that doesn't mean the Church isn't true. The Book of Mormon contains more Spiritual Truth and Doctrine for our day than any other book ever created, save the Bible as far as it is translated correctly. If you don't believe me, read it all the way through and ask God. I know that The Book of Mormon is true.
@chaywarburton2020
@chaywarburton2020 7 жыл бұрын
The Book Of Mormon is about the establishment of a nation brought up from 2 families that the Lord immigrated from Jerusalem during the time Zedekiah was brought captive into Babylon. They landed somewhere in Central America. The immigration's you're speaking about are a different scenario. We're talking about something else.
@aarong6458
@aarong6458 7 жыл бұрын
But you can't forget that unless you give them 10% of your gross income you're not allowed to do cool Masonic handshakes :(
@dodgerdave777channel
@dodgerdave777channel 7 жыл бұрын
Chay Warburton with good honest prophets leading it right...Gordon B Hinckley a Prophet of God, Standing for Honesty & Integrity like unto Joseph Smithkzbin.info/www/bejne/l6uwc36VjMeEepY .
@abseconPC
@abseconPC 7 жыл бұрын
caffine is allowed no tea and coffee
@abseconPC
@abseconPC 7 жыл бұрын
I'm LDS I seen r movies. the passion
@adamgoodword7888
@adamgoodword7888 7 жыл бұрын
....and you've watched porn hub too.
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
I think you're just projecting here troll.
@dynastydriven
@dynastydriven 3 жыл бұрын
Where does it say no coffee?
@gilbertovelazquez6313
@gilbertovelazquez6313 7 жыл бұрын
George. zin it should be "sin" instead. i have experienced all kinds if life styles and there ia no one like the one of this church i think that people has always complained. because they find themselves trying to serve two lords at once and they find it difficult ro live up to God's standards the same happened to the people from the house of israel today there are people like you negative and perverse. those who think that are frew living whoever they like disobeying the prophets they will find out latee rhat they werw not free but they were subject ro the devil .remember we ca not be neutral, either we are in one side or the other there ia not in between.
@samblasian5236
@samblasian5236 6 жыл бұрын
Mormons tend to be overweight. So eating meat sparingly and exercising is BS.
@zaphster11
@zaphster11 6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! WHat the heck are you saying?
@dlariby
@dlariby 6 жыл бұрын
Lol. Haven't you seen "Mobsters and Mormons"? It's because of all the baked goods.
@MrChris-bx7ss
@MrChris-bx7ss 7 жыл бұрын
Uh young mormons have non intercfourse sex and it's commonly called by the "Non-Sex".
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
If they're caught they'll be brought before their Bishop and will either be fellowshiped or excommunicated. Sexual sin isn't just direct intercourse. Sexual activity of any kind outside the bonds of marriage is considered a very serious sin on par with murder. The Church has a Sunday school class for Investigators and new members as well as fellowshiped members called Gospel Principles that has a whole section discussing "The Law of Chastity" in detail. There are no loopholes, those who think there are or simply don't care will have much to answer for in the eyes of the Lord.
@henryrosstti5409
@henryrosstti5409 7 жыл бұрын
lmao Mike Wallace couldn't keep a straight face I mean who wouldn't when asking about the garments the story that he tells to lol.
@MrChris-bx7ss
@MrChris-bx7ss 7 жыл бұрын
Yep the magic underwear. And when a mormon is killed in an accident etc. whilst wear the underwear the church says it was God's will. Well if it's God's will to allow to live or die, the point of the underwear is MUTE! LOL
@henryrosstti5409
@henryrosstti5409 7 жыл бұрын
Ammo Man lol they really think people are dumb or something cuz everybody dies
@Vetionarian
@Vetionarian 7 жыл бұрын
For me, it offers more of a moral protection. Nothing magic about it. It's a remind to me every day I get dressed, that I believe in something and that my body is more than just an object. I believe that abstinence before marriage produces healthier and longer marriages. My garments help remind me of that.
@linegrant8458
@linegrant8458 8 жыл бұрын
they have all that but do they have Jesus as their Lord n Savior....don't think so
@suem6004
@suem6004 6 жыл бұрын
Line Grant Of course. Read 4000 references to Christ in the Book of Mormon.LDS take the eucharist or sacrament weekly in remembrance of Christ dying for our sins. Do you take communion at least weekly?
@brooksburningham299
@brooksburningham299 4 жыл бұрын
It’s literally in the name of the church
@michaelhuffman1699
@michaelhuffman1699 4 жыл бұрын
Yes we do
@ar_b10lobosvincentt.78
@ar_b10lobosvincentt.78 4 жыл бұрын
Line Grant yes of course we believe Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. The actual name of our church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints . Mormon is a nickname only.
@gilbertovelazquez6313
@gilbertovelazquez6313 7 жыл бұрын
to richard mcginnis . Richars reas the sceipturea before you make a comment man you are silly were not christ apostles related? ok the answer is yes this should serve as an example to people like you who comment out of ignorance.
@kittykat4458
@kittykat4458 6 жыл бұрын
I left Mormonism and christianity. It's IDOLOTRY. Sooooo many Tenach scriptures that people ignore to thir own demise.
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 6 жыл бұрын
Idolatry? Really? I fail to see any of that. And what on earth are Tenach scriptures?
@zaphster11
@zaphster11 6 жыл бұрын
like?
@thursoberwick1948
@thursoberwick1948 3 жыл бұрын
@@JLM1883 I think they mean tanakh/tanach.
@LabuEx2052
@LabuEx2052 7 жыл бұрын
What about the plural wives? How can men populate their own worlds when they're exalted to god hood without plural wives?
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
In the Pre-existence, God the Father had a wife. She was our Heavenly Mother. Their Spirit Children had to grow to maturity before they were sent to Earth to experience a mortal existence. It's one husband and one wife, who over a long time have a very large family together.
@LabuEx2052
@LabuEx2052 7 жыл бұрын
Plural marriage was first introduced into Mormonism by Joseph Smith in the 1830's . It is a common misconception to think of the practice of polygamy as starting with Brigham Young and the Mormon's trip west. Even though Joseph Smith had already married several women, he did not dictate his famous revelation on eternal marriage and polygamy until 1843 (Doctrine and Covenants, section 132). By the time he died he had been sealed to at least 33 women. 1 1 In a Salt Lake Tribune review of Todd Compton's In Sacred Loneliness on Smith's polygamy we read: In identifying 33 well-documented wives of [Joseph] Smith - other researchers have placed the figure as high as 48 - Compton found that in the case of 11 women, Smith's polygamy was polyandrous. That is, the women were married and cohabiting with their husbands, who mostly were faithful Mormons, when Smith married them. Yet not one divorced her "first husband" when Smith was alive. Indeed, they continued to live with their civil spouses while married to Smith. "If one superimposes a chronological perspective, one sees that of Smith's first 12 wives, nine were polyandrous...." Compton, a practicing Mormon...spent much of the 1990's combing pioneer records, diaries and reminiscences.... Eleven of Smith's wives were between ages 14 and 20, nine were in their 20s, eight were in Smith's own peer group of 31 to 40, two were in their 40s and three in their 50s. . . . Toward the end of Smith's life, knowledge of his secret marriages began to leak out. William Law, Smith's second counselor ... filed suit against the church leader for living 'in an open state of adultery' with 19-year-old Maria Lawrence. In a speech a month before his death, Smith responded by flatly denying polygamy, which was illegal under federal law. "What a thing it is for a man to be accused of committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can only find one," he said. (Salt Lake Tribune, December 13, 1997, p. C2. See Smith's entire speech in History of the Church, Vol. 6, pp. 408-412.) For the next fifty years the practice of plural marriage was considered essential to attain godhood. Brigham Young, second president of the LDS Church, declared "The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy" (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, p. 269, August 19, 1866).
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
I love the detailed response, but it's not entirely relevant to my reply to your some what snide comment. Plural wives wouldn't be necessary for creating Spirit Children to populate a world, as LDS Doctrine states that our Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother (a singular wife) created all of their Spirit Children who populate the Earth(s). Interesting thing about Plural Marriage being essential to achieve exaltation, from 1843-1904 only 22-33% of the LDS church practiced Plural Marriage for that 60 year period. Either it really wasn't that essential, or no one was preoccupied with "Godhood". I'd like to point out that just because a Church authority (Prophet or otherwise) says something, it's not an official doctrine unless it's declared as revelation from God, and then sustained by the body of the Church. I recommend reading "Joseph Smith's Polygamy" by Brian C. Hales, it's a 3 volume set and considered the most comprehensive work on the subject to date.
@LabuEx2052
@LabuEx2052 7 жыл бұрын
According to what I've read, Hale is not very credible. See this board discussion: exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,803482,803577 Fawn McKay Brodie's biography on Joseph Smith gives direct testimony from wives of Joseph and their relatives stating that Smith did practice polygamy and polyandry. I know all of this is hard to hear, no one wants to be told that what they have believed in for so many years is wrong.
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
It was only a recommendation, do with it what you will. You seem to be the type of person who'd do thorough research to the extent that you would like determine for yourself if Hales is credible as a source rather than just taking someone else's word for it. I fault to see anything that's hard to hear, nothing has gone against what I've been taught in Church. I don't care how plural marriage was practiced, I'm LDS and we don't practice it today, and even if we did I still wouldn't care. I'm focused on what I'm doing and where I'm going and how I treat others on the way. As far as becoming Gods concerns me, see: Psalms 82:6 & John 10:34.
@linegrant8458
@linegrant8458 8 жыл бұрын
oh my u know where he's awaiting now.... hope he was saved before he close his eyes..
@spahduhduh
@spahduhduh 8 жыл бұрын
The Mormon church STILL practices polygamy. The last LDS president that had more than wife was Howard W. Hunter who married Inis Stanton as his second eternal wife in 1990, NOT 1890, by Mormon convention of eternal marriage that gave Hunter two wives in eternity making Howard Hunter a polygamist. Gordon Hinckley performed the ceremony knowing full well the implications. Hinckley stated that Howard would have BOTH women as wives in the next life.
@porterrockwell4399
@porterrockwell4399 8 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't. The practice ended in 1890
@Riddec1
@Riddec1 8 жыл бұрын
+spahduhduh You forgot Dalin Oaks and Russell Nelson of the Quorum of the 12
@LuLu6214
@LuLu6214 8 жыл бұрын
+spahduhduh A widow remarrying is NOT polygamy. Marriage and sealings are different. A couple can be married but not sealed, sealed but not married or both sealed and married.
@chaywarburton2020
@chaywarburton2020 7 жыл бұрын
Being Married and being Sealed are different things. My mom was sealed but later divorced, then married my dad and was still sealed with the other guy for a time till they were able to process their temple divorce. Sealed is an eternal spiritual union that goes beyond the grave. I married my wife 5 months ago and it was in a temple. The differences are this.. marriage: "Till death do we part", or.. "For time and for all eternity." I prefer the second.
@adamgoodword7888
@adamgoodword7888 7 жыл бұрын
5:51 _"I'm inclined to say, your not much to look at but you're all the Lord has"_ .... WHAT AN INSULT!!!!! Did he really know what he was saying???!!!
@ehansish
@ehansish 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Goodword jokes can be hard to understand sometimes 😂 he was obviously being funny
@__blessedmami__8415
@__blessedmami__8415 7 жыл бұрын
Full of fiction
@marioskitchen7130
@marioskitchen7130 8 жыл бұрын
This is the great deception or bait that is used to lure prospective converts to the church fooling them into believing that the Mormon church is a Christian church..This man avoids to mention that the Mormon Jesus is not the Jesus of the bible, just as the Muslim Jesus is also not the Jesus of the bible..The Muslim Jesus calls the Jesus of the bible a lair that he is not the son of God who died for our sins...and the Mormon Jesus calls the Jesus of the bible a liar claiming that salvation is not through Christ's grace alone, and also that Christ suffered for our sins while praying to the father in the garden and not on the cross- the cross which is clearly the symbol of victory over sin and death..so in essence the Mormon church is saying that Christ died for nothing...Hence both Muslims and Mormons are offended by the symbol of the cross..and so is satan by the way..
@marioskitchen7130
@marioskitchen7130 8 жыл бұрын
Actually Jesus did die on the cross..and on the third day he rose from the dead..and then after forty days he ascended into heaven where he waits for those who believe in Him..The only true religion is Christ alone.
@marioskitchen7130
@marioskitchen7130 8 жыл бұрын
All I can tell you is that I know what my belief in Christ's grace has done for me..for many years I tried different churches, but it was always following laws and rules, and then feeling guilty when I broke some of those rules..But when I invited Christ alone into my heart and life, I became a new creation..In the past I hated a million people and I struggled with being able to forgive..and that is just one example..and if a rotten negative person like myself was able to be changed, then for sure I know that it was Christ who changed me..and this is all the evidence I have for you...
@marioskitchen7130
@marioskitchen7130 8 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is just ask Christ if He is really there to come into your life..and if you truly searching for something you feel is missing in your life and heart..you will know How truly real he is.
@carvinpav3
@carvinpav3 7 жыл бұрын
Shut up idiot!
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking the cross is a pagan symbol. To the early Christians it was a symbol of death and torture, as used by the Romans.It wasn't THE symbol of Christianity until Emperor Constantine, had his "vision" and "converted" to Christianity. He merely used it as a political symbol and little else.
@flatpat
@flatpat 7 жыл бұрын
The absolute worst apologetic I've ever heard from a religious leader concerning the racist issue." It's behind us", BEHIND US?? Sorry but that's a moral issue that your church got wrong and if God is the source of morality then it's a false prophecy and therefore your church is false.
@chaywarburton2020
@chaywarburton2020 7 жыл бұрын
It is behind us. The Lord leaves the past in the past as well. Heavenly Father never makes a mistake... though those who receive His revelation are not perfect they themselves make mistakes, I'm sorry you were offended or are just justifying your anger but the truth is; is it's behind us.
@rdccs5122
@rdccs5122 7 жыл бұрын
Chay Warburton it's not behind you, it was one of your prophets who said it. so did God lie to him when he told him to teach it? when your prophets speak it's truth, that's what you mormans say. so did your prophet lie to you? yes he did and they keep lying.
@chaywarburton2020
@chaywarburton2020 7 жыл бұрын
It's behind us. He was told to teach that from the Lord because it wasn't time yet. Then when it became the right time it was established. Where in the scriptures does the Lord give everything all at once? He doesn't.. but line upon line and precept upon precept. The Lord has said "wither by my own voice or the voice of my servants, it is the same." So yes the prophets are telling the truth, I know Gordon Hinckley was a prophet and Thomas S. Monson is the true prophet today on the earth.
@JLM1883
@JLM1883 7 жыл бұрын
flatpat Blacks were always allowed into the LDS Church, it was never segregated like many other Christian Churches in the 19th Century they were denied the Preisthood, but not originally. Joseph Smith and even Brigham Young ordained men of African decent while Joseph lead the LDS Church most notably Elijah Able and Walker Lewis. The Priesthood ban didn't even go into effect until five years after Brigham Young began leading the LDS Church. The actual cause is somewhat of a mystery, but it was clearly influenced by Protestant ideas. It is also important to note that Prophets are not infallible (a few Prophets of the Bible made mistakes so minor, some with lasting consequences) and aren't constantly speaking the word of God. Many people (even some in the LDS Church) would find it surprising to learn that the Priesthood Ban on men of African decent, wasn't actually a Doctrine of the Church but a tragically misguided policy. In order for the word's of a Prophet to be Doctrine he must declare it to be revelation from God. There is absolutely no evidence of that occurring, we have always recorded our revelations. And while Brigham Young's (and later Church leaders') statements about Blacks and the Priesthood are found in The History of the Church and The Journal of Discourses, not mention of revelation from God is made on the subject. Not until the Priesthood ban was lifted in 1978, when that was declared as revelation from God. The Curse and Mark of Cain which were used inaccurately by Christians in America to justify slavery and actually caused the Baptist Church to split. First off the Curse of Cain and Mark of Cain in the Book of Genesis are actually two different things. The Curse was Cain and his family's banishment to the Land of Nod which east of Eden (Genesis 4:11-14). The Mark (which isn't described at all) was a mercy from God. He marked Cain and his decedents so that they wouldn't suffer the same fate as Able (Genesis 4:15). The Protestants in America looked at the Curse of Ham to further justify the Slave trade, since Ham's descendants were cursed to be servants to servants (Genesis 9:20-17) and eventually Cain's "curse" of dark skin and the curse of Ham's descendants were combined.
@slnhn
@slnhn 7 жыл бұрын
This interview was not the time or place to offer an explanation. The LDS Church made a public statement that did go into details about this issue several years ago. Go find it and read it. And another point was that it was never a prophecy. It was merely 19th Century thinking.
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