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[@katie_ncfc]

Thanks for another great podcast - love watching these. Congratulations on your 10.3k followers. The answer to your question is Borja Sainz and Ben Gibson

[@dw8621]

Sainz and Gibson - love the podcast, kept me in touch with City while living in Kazakhstan

[@aimeescoones9074]

Sainz & Gibson! Great pod as always lads 💚💛

[@olliebainesphotography8695]

Borja Sainz & Ben Gibson. Love the pod chaps - keep up the top work

[@damez27]

Borja Sainz and Ben Gibson- keep up the top work lads!

[@davidmckenzie5760]

Borja Sainz and Ben Gibson, Top pod again. Thanks fellas

[@andyrees8193]

Borja Sainz and Ben Gibson, thanks for all the great content (as usual)

[@YvonneChilds-q8q]

Sianz and Gibson. enjoying listening

[@jeffman98]

Ben Gibson and Borja sainz were the scorers on that day! Another great pod lads!

[@kaineb6172]

Big Gibbo and a Borja banger! Keep up the great content!

[@GirlfromNorwich]

Gibbo and Sainz 🔥💛💚

[@geogoring]

Premier League is for globalised teams, some even owned by nation states. Now the Championship is seen by foreign players as a route to the PL. The top teams are followed on TV by fans around the world.

[@atheist666]

So was it a globalised team that beat Norwich? Was it a team owned by a nation state that was the biggest net spending club in Europe during the summer window while staying profitable and fully compliant with FFP? How are you people moaning about things being impossible to overcome when the shining example of what actually is possible just presented itself to you? And the championship has ALWAYS been a route to a better move onwards.

[@geogoring]

​@@atheist666I like your positivity. Let's hope Norwich can buck the trends too! OTBC.😊

[@atheist666]

@@geogoring The motto at Brighton is “challenge the establishment” and you don’t do that from being part of it, everything at Brighton is done differently than at almost any other club, from the kitchens to the ground staff from the boardroom to the boot room. Because 90% of clubs still run on an unsustainable model inherited from decades ago. The thing is, it’s not a secret, you hear commentators and bloggers and pundits talking about it but they rarely get it right, because looking to deeply causes them cognitive dissonance, it requires financial discipline, and commitment from the “owner” (if you’re a financial consortium, forget it) but if anyone actually wants to do it the same way, the only thing they would need to acquire to be as successful as Brighton, is an equally efficient and effective analytics system. Luckily for Brighton, Tony Bloom comes ready fitted with the best analytics company currently in operation. Norwich are a great club, very similar to Brighton in many respects, catchment area, fan base, and more recently with expectations based on reality. The potential is there, it all comes from sensible responsible ownership. Otherwise it’s just gambling season after season.

[@mattalford389]

Borja Sainz and Ben Gibson were the scorers!

[@keepitpeel]

Morning guys, scorers were Sainz and Gibson

[@darrellwilliams213]

Thanks lads, good chat. This 'Data' model, doesn't it highlight players that are always injured ? Should do

[@joegrainge5137]

Borja Sainz and Ben Gibson were the scorers

[@Mrmayhembsc]

I agree that the Premier League has killed the cup comps (and football in general). A few seasons ago, I did stats doing 30 years before and after the change,and the cups have become more concentrated for a select few. It has killed my enjoyment of the sport. To answer the question, it was Borja Sainz (who scored a screamer) & Ben Gibson (nice set piece and his only goal for the club).

[@phillipcodling2177]

Answer is ben Gibson and borja sainz love the pod

[@richardreason6008]

Gibson and Sainz were the scorers.

[@atheist666]

Sorry guys, bit of an essay coming up, but all of you at various points are getting this wrong. Yes that gulf exists, but it’s always existed, the only way that most “smaller” teams overcame it in the past was by overspending and putting the future of their clubs at risk. And even then, they just became yo-yo clubs, like Norwich were for ages. Then came FFP, and FFP is simply responsible for making that pre existing void more visible, because simply staying within its boundaries without changing the way a club does its business makes it almost impossible to progress… Without cheating of course like Forrest or Leicester or Everton, but the failure of the premier league and championship to correctly punish those infringements is another subject. However some clubs did changed the business model, and you’re ignoring that. Brighton are the big example in front of your face that you’re getting very wrong. Yes Tony Bloom did invest millions into the club, in the form of interest free loans, when they were permitted, and those loans are being repaid, but all of the money he invested went to the huge infrastructure projects that a club reduced to playing at a local council school sports stadium required. Brand new state of the art stadium, individual European class 1 training facilities for both men and women’s teams, European class 1 youth academy and youth training facilities, and he did that spending less than Everton is paying just to build a new stadium. However, Tony Bloom didn’t bankroll the clubs day to day operations, and he has never funded a transfer, not even once, he’s a very very astute businessman, from the moment he took control, way before the Amex was even conceived, he insisted that the club from top to bottom had to become completely financially sustainable, running within a strict wage structure and recruitment limits, those limitations were to be adjusted depending on the success achieved when they started working on an ongoing 10 year plan to achieve promotion and then establish the club as a permanent premier league fixture consistently in the top 10 and competing for European places. They have achieved that whilst being not only profitable, but one of the most profitable clubs in Europe. That “ongoing” ten year plan started in 2015, was adjusted upon promotion as income and rules changed, and adjusted again after the clubs first European involvement at the end of last season. And the large investment Brighton made into players last summer was funded completely by the profit made from player (and manager) sales accumulated over the previous 4 seasons, which meant Brighton were basically the biggest net spending club in Europe over the summer, but still remained in profit and completely inside FFP. The fact that they’ve done all this whilst also becoming one of the most attractive teams to watch in Europe is a bonus to the fans. But the main thing here is the business model. Anyone not paying attention, and not seeing how this was done, is stuck in the dinosaur age, looking up at the sky, and wondering what that large fiery rock streaking across the sky might do… It helps that Tony Bloom is a genuine Brighton fan, from a family that’s been involved with the club for 3 generations, but his involvement isn’t emotional, it’s business. The success of your club starts in the boardroom, no club that’s run well at the top, struggles on the pitch.

[@patrickharding9863]

Sainz and Gibson!

[@grahamwarnes7147]

When Sutton utd beat Coventry in the cup , Norwich then beat Sutton Utd in the next round 8-0! I was at that game! Putting that aside money has ruined football. Bring back the 80’s and early 90’s when all teams had a chance in leagues and cups

[@Jacknorwich]

Sainz and Gibson 🔰

[@danelawman2516]

Sainz & Gibson

[@montydean5989]

Sainz and Gibson

[@hyltonforeman8532]

When his name was on the team sheet i thought why

[@HashtagKaiser]

Ben Gibson and Borja Sainz.

[@allyclarke6505]

Money has ruined football!

[@Alfredthegreat94]

Borja Sainz and Ben gibson

[@jonpunt8866]

Gibson and Sainz buhs

[@7915thomas]

Borja Sainz and Ben Gibson

[@lewis72]

-Magic- Tragic of the FA Cup.

[@RachelLangley-h1d]

Ben Gibson and Borja Sainz

[@xxfl4mingxx595]

Ben Gibson and borja sainz

[@Ncfc1-qg2wg]

Sianz and Gibson

[@Lacey555666]

Gibson & sainz

[@connorburke3508]

Gibson and sainz

[@atheist666]

Also, it’s not Brighton AND Brentford, it’s just Brighton. Benham at Brentford in an ex Tony Bloom employee from StarLizard, who basically learned everything he could about how Bloom successfully ran that analytics business, nicked everything he could, and ran off to start his own version, but his obsession wasn’t satiated enough so he decided to buy himself a football club and try and emulate Blooms success there too. Basically, Brentford is a plastic knock off of Brighton and Bloom.

[@danharrington2965]

I remember it well, the 2 goal scorers were…. Connor scored with a header from a corner in the first half …and Paddy with a penalty late in the second half …Adam was keeper and didn’t score but made some good saves to stop the score being higher, the good old days when we had real class players 😊of course it was Ben Gibson and Borja Sainz…..after they substituted Conner and Paddy

[@atheist666]

Brighton took just one managerial change and one closed season to move on from the Hughton system and style. They’ve been playing open expansive football since 2019/20. Finishing 9th in 21/22 Qualifying for European football in the 22/23 season, and winning their Europa League group in 23/24 while beating Ajax home and away, Olympique Marseille and AEK Athens. But they must’ve done all that without playing open and expansive football right? Because it’s taken them 7 years to move on from Hughton right? Do you guys actually do any research before you put on your canary tinted specs? 😂

[@canarielotus]

Gibson and Sainz were the scorers.

[@NCFCFINLAY17]

Borja Sainz and Ben Gibson

[@sophie7638]

Ben Gibson and Borja Sainz

[@lukejohnson5819]

Ben Gibson & Borja Sainz

[@alexwhite182]

Borja Sainz and Ben Gibson