64 Audio U12T Review - Simply Excellent

[@garygriffiths7353]

These are the best all rounders that I own. Love them

[@foryoutube9553]

Lmao at equing the 3k dip. That dip is precisely what makes it stand out.

[@Another_Audiophile]

I tried them next to the Sony IER-Z1R and after long listening I end up purchasing the Sony but these were not bad at all. Thanks for the detailed review.

[@stephen9463]

Which was smoother and less fatigue in highs?

[@Another_Audiophile]

@@stephen9463 was smoother indeed and the bass was another. I mean the bass on the U12T is good but the Z1R is on another level.

[@ROCKSTAR3291]

If you get a good fit, the Z1R is absolutely incredible. I'd still like to get the U12t one day though

[@keithb5612]

A surprise for me is that some of these "endgame" iems eg 64 Audio U12t or headphones eg Hifiman Susvara are quite a few years old now but have not really been surpassed for many in their audio quality with a suitable dac/amp source. Is reverse engineering a thing of the past now? Nice review. Thanks.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

The technical performance of the lcd 5, susvara, STAX X9000, and WA Bravura is approaching the limit of what a headphone driver is capable of. Their distortion characteristics are effectively below human threshold. Even a focal utopia has 10x the SNR of them.

[@AT-vj2mz]

And the hd600 has been around over 20 years. I think you're looking at this totally the wrong way. Stop expecting the best to get better and start expecting the best to get cheaper. We're already at the peak, now make it affordable. IEMs can't invent details that aren't in the track

[@ic2433]

I think the U12t is something that's easier to appreciate once you've been through the earlier stages of the iem path. You like iems, as you say for their party trick but then you get to a point where you just want it all or most of it in a single iem and this is where the U12t comes in, amazing iem.

[@GoldenSound]

Yep my thoughts as well. There's a lot of products (not just IEMs) that immediately stand out in certain ways. And whilst many of them are still ones you will love and enjoy much later down the line (I still really want a pair of Symphonium Helios for example, they might have a party trick but damn it's a good one), many of them I find that impressiveness fades over time. Whereas the stuff that for me has had the most longevity has been the stuff that isn't trying to impress in a particular area. They're just doing a lot of stuff well.

[@GrB-M]

I couldn’t agree more. It’s all about your frame of reference. You can hand someone who’s not really into audio reproduction a u12t and you’ll get a resounding “meh”, because they sound real. Just like every non audio sound you hear all day long. Hence why so many, especially cheaper IEMs, go for V shaped tunings and other tricks to make it sound like augmented reality. You aren’t going to fully appreciate them unless you’re actually properly into IEMs/home/car etc. audio. It’s really, really hard to make something that doesn’t add much color and reproduces everything properly. You won’t appreciate that when you hear it unless you have the proper frame of reference.

[@GadZookz]

Great review, thanks! Not to overrate it but next to my wife, the cat and the Empire Ears Odin, the U12T would exit the proverbial burning building right before me. Time permitting, I might run back in to grab the MEST Mk II and a pair of shorts. 🙂

[@ic2433]

😄

[@Sushanttechworld]

Next video sony ier z1r review by goldensounds??

[@eruilluvitar]

I love my u12t, and these are absolutely my standard reference iem. My only complaint is the shell size, which is why the IE600 gets more listening time from me, due to the fact that I'm a side sleeper.

[@erev1986]

As someone who has fallen in love with the IE600 but is interested by the U12T, how would you compare the two?

[@eruilluvitar]

@@erev1986 The ie600 has a much more "fun" tonality, whereas the u12t is much more neutral to my ears.

[@zelven6109]

Sleep on a couch

[@The_Geek_World]

My big complaint is the artificial BA timbre sound well obviously it is an all BA IEM

[@audiowithargha]

@@The_Geek_World u12T don't have that BA timbre. You will be surprised when you will listen to it, it sounds like world's best dynamic driver.

[@nikhilsrl]

At a price of 2K USD, should there be any "buts"?

[@GoldenSound]

Unfortunately finding a truly perfect product is next to impossible. Not just in audio, but in other areas like cars, cameras etc etc. There's almost always going to be some 'buts'. I don't think I've tried ANY audio product that I'd say is perfect in every way, at any price

[@nikhilsrl]

@@GoldenSound Valid point, but the price still irks me.

[@aceryn2341]

You can get the B-Stock for 20% less. I bought B-Stock U12Ts and can't tell what the cosmetic issue is since it's so minor.

[@nikhilsrl]

@lukeyrada yeah at 2K

[@nikhilsrl]

@lukeyrada Sorry about that.

[@angryshadowdrummer]

I love my Tia Trios. 64 Audio are killing it in the IEM game!

[@asan1050]

Thanks Much ! and Merry Christmas!

[@The_Geek_World]

Coming from IER Z1R to U12T Immediately the BA timbre, that metallic sound caught my attention. Well there is a slight BA timbre too in the Z1R buy in the U12T it is brought up a notch. I will try experimenting with the Apex modules and some dampers maybe I can bring it down a bit. The timbre is mostly in the treble

[@briancaulfield7251]

Went from ER4XR to Blessing 2 Dusk to U12t in the span of about 6 months, but man the U12t really is something special. I've had them for close to a year now and I'm still blown away by them sometimes.

[@ariathyf144]

How do you compare them to the B2Dusk? That dip in the 3KHz is not something I would enjoy for my endgame iem. I give female vocals presentation a high priority.

[@DanielNg-n2b]

I finally received my A12t, love the sound of this pair as my previous ones are UE18+ Pro and Sensaphonics Triple Driver. Clearly as expected a12t sits above them all. However I really would love a recommendations of the best pairing of cables in the $1K range that is a good good pair for on-the-road use, thanks.

[@Alepap.]

Any cable that is kink free

[@lordbiscuitthetossable5352]

Honestly, if you want a great cable that looks and feels beastly, I would just buy the Monarch cable or something similar. No cable grants better sound quality, but you can certainly get cables that are more comfortable.

[@kt-nu5jb]

Would love to hear your thoughts on the IE 900 :)

[@The_Hipster_Cow]

Great seeing golden sound here, but I seriously prefer his other style of videos (found on his channel). It is especially helpful when he would just play music and describe how the elements would change with a given product. Kinda disappointing seeing him just conform to "the headphone show style" of reviewing.

[@Galenthir]

Still the king, baby.

[@blejzerosamigos6115]

I wonder how they compare to hifiman svanar.?

[@brunis_m]

Hey Golden, how relevant are these nowadays for the price?

[@עידןתמיר-ה3ס]

How is the duo in terms of sound compared to the u12?

[@pfx2259]

3-4k is bagpipe territory. Lovely to have that dip. Great IEM… dark presentation with amazing clarity. A bit like this background music.

[@vvmaster2010]

Hello. Thanks for the review. Which replacement cables do you recommend for u12t?

[@DingleberrryDan]

I'd be curious to see how you would compare these with the FDX1

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

its heading towards ambient pro already, but yeah clear step up

[@DingleberrryDan]

@@iikatinggangsengii2471 I don't remember commenting this lol. Tried a Letshuoer S12 Pro at CanJam, bought a Raptgo Hook-X, and it's my endgame (for now).

[@harnoorsingh2866]

Review Zmf Caldera

[@yarbles66]

You've redeemed yourself after I trusted your SP3000 review - I hated it 😅 each to their own etc. Just picked a pair of these up today 2nd hand excellent condition for $800. I'm really enjoying them. The all BA bass was a worry as I have the QDC Anole VX & as much as I like them, the bass isn't great. I don't think they're worth the full price ask, but for $800... absolutely worth every penny.

[@spud1300]

Love the actual track recommendations...... went down a half-hour rabbit hole, now I'm back :).

[@GoldenSound]

Nice! Got any that you particularly enjoyed?

[@0Metatron]

What would you recommend for lovers of fast electronic percussive music at this price point? Thanks

[@47thdarkdimension]

Anyone?

[@MilkTestingMan]

I’m new to having quality audio gear, and I use them for games, so I’m here just to see what these are supposed to be like. There’s no way you’re not experiencing massive diminishing returns with this IEM. What could possibly be added to an IEM that raises the price from say, $250 to these $2300 IEMs. $250 is gonna give you solid sound quality. Why would I spend such an extreme amount of money on IEMs? Edit: I see this is a bit of a cheaper model. The ones by 64 Audio I was looking for are $2300.

[@JoeMFilms]

Does anyone have any opinions on the u12t vs the tia trio? Still deciding between them

[@dleblanc343]

Trio is a neutral v with better dynamics, better timbre & texture. For music it’s quite an improvement over U12T

[@Mr1stcat]

I've heard people call this set simply BLAND

[@rocklover572]

Any suggestions for tip replacements? Was looking at the spinfit selection but don't know where to start

[@robertnoblitt518]

I use Final Audio Type E tips with my U12T. These give me the best sound and comfort I've experienced with IEMs.

[@rocklover572]

@@robertnoblitt518 awesome thank you so much! I'll check them out for sure

[@Lead_Foot]

Sedna earfit origins work really well for me. None of the included tips work for me at all

[@terryss95]

What's their price?

[@thelastrhino2581]

"Hello, I'm Golden Sound..." Let's reflect on that. :)

[@HobbyTalk]

Why does expensive stuff come with meh cables haha

[@colingordon0986]

Seen someone selling these for $1,999 on hi fi I’m really tempted to get them. I love my oracle 2 but I’m sure these would smash those

[@Abhi-wn7sw]

These are simply the best. I also bought the z1r and MEST mk2 but sold them both as U12t still won. This is one IEM I'll NEVER sell

[@AstaginaProject]

After trying so many IEM's, I have decided that U12t is my endgame.. and I'm 100% serious about it. No, if you say "endgame isn't real", it means you haven't tried this IEM yet. I even prefer this one than Tia Fourte, or IER-Z1R. Everything in this IEM is well-done tuning, without exception, or I can say that if you look for IEM that is great in every sector, without any hesitation, I will say this IEM is yours.

[@vavent_]

That other IEMs you have compared to the U12t before coming with this conclusion? Or only 2 that you have mentioned?

[@AstaginaProject]

@@vavent_ I have tried a lot of IEM's, from entry until high level. So, I'm so sure with my conclusion for my preference.

[@vavent_]

@@AstaginaProject are there something similar in tuning to U12t and cheaper, so someone can understand at least a bit will U12t tonality will become boring for them? Do you find it's tonality 'too safe'? Have you tried some harman tuned IEMs? I hear the only problem with u12t except price is that for someone they are just boring, while technically excellent set, always was interested in U12t and only this scares me, don't understand why neutral with bass boost should sound boring, at least harman neutral I will definitely say is not boring at all(to me)

[@Alepap.]

I'm also on the fence about U12t , Z1R is also one that i've looked but i'm worried about the fit. I'm scared that the U12t won't have the tuning that i like, and people say Z1R has amazing bass.

[@theehmora]

@@Alepap. I recently demoed most of the high end 64 Audio offerings as well as the Z1R and Andromeda 2020. The latter surprised me but ultimately wasn't what I was looking for and it came down to the U12T and Z1R. I was also worried about the fit, yes they are bigger but they went in just like the rest. And ya, the bass is amazing. Definitely one of the reasons I choose them over the U12T.

[@wengezhu1]

It's personal preference. For me, reference headphones or IEMs are good but just boring. I demoed both U12t and U18t during CanJam and tried to understand whey U12t was so highly regarded. Unforunately, I failed to find them attractive, especially after I demoed other IEMs with special sauce, such as Odyssey, Mentor, Mason FS, EVO, XE6, among others.

[@michaelp.3485]

U12t is so highly regarded because they appeal to people like me who want music untainted by an IEMs particular "flavor," and just want music presented as closely as intended by the artist as possible while still adding a bit of bass emphasis for fun without having any particular frequency range obnoxiously boosted to get that "wow" factor. And they do it while sounding remarkably refined and without a hint of harshness in the treble, which I am particularly sensitive to.

[@athenovae]

Saw 2 grand and I was aight im done. 😂

[@Kadath128]

Main issue with 64 is every third IEM they make sounds completely different.

[@HobbyTalk]

I want to try this real bad… one day haha

[@ibassnote]

At 2K I want to hear you start out with “these are the most incredible IEMS I’ve heard, in the same league as …”. The fact that you didn’t is concerning. There are so many IEMS on the market that can astound you for far less. The biggest concern is the treble inconsistencies. Thank you for being so thorough but I leave the review a little skeptical.

[@Viewer13128]

You are absolutely correct. I bought them and instant regret. These reviewers are probably paid to just talk about it without bashing it, then allow the fans of the brand to hype it up in the comments. Also, theheadphoneshow is biased for the U12t. They review it with custom cables while they review/compare other IEMs with stock cables. They also never account for audience reported unit variations for other products. I listened extensively to the U12t, Mest Indigo, V16 Divinity, Monarch Mk2, and Sony WF-1000XM4 (old firmware with heavy EQ) to compare, and the U12t was completely off in tonality and also sounded nothing special at all. It was my least favorite out of all the ones listed.

[@resottolamontagna904]

Search the video "64Audio U12t vs iPhone Speakers" by Sharur. The u12t are not good at all. And they are super overpriced!

[@Abhi-wn7sw]

@@resottolamontagna904have you tried the U12t?

[@Abhi-wn7sw]

And yet they are

[@letsmobiles3396]

@@Viewer13128 what you favorite among those

[@xKingBoo]

Does anyone else think he kinda looks like a thinner peter griffin XD

[@freepeacesweet.7547]

Two grand with a twenty pound cable. Nice.

[@Goodbutevilgenius]

Nah, it's not that heavy.

[@freepeacesweet.7547]

Ha ha. Uk £.

[@sephondranzer]

My only problem with this IEM is the money they waste on really lame accessories. The IEM’s themselves are amazing.

[@nickpelayo3172]

I remember the month i heard these for the first time. I have been spoiled in my time in the iem world and at the time had the QDC anole vx and the sony Z1R. the ut12t aint no slouch but compared tot he other two iems, they played it safe. Music was very good but also boring at the same time. the Z1R is engaging and fun while the Anole are probably the best iems i have ever heard. For 2k these are a decent deal for an everyday use iem and the used price of around 1500usd is a darn good.

[@andrewronnberg5725]

Odin empire ears

[@xellos5]

nice

[@KeenAesthetic1]

Boo - we can see your face!! (Only in a broken faux mystery kinda way) And where are the best finger clicks in the business?

[@dleblanc343]

U12T is so 2018. There’s easily a dozen better iem’s today. And about 6 which cost less. Pushing slowly forward

[@realaudioreviews]

lol which one? haha

[@ResolveReviews]

I'd still probably take U12t over everything these days haha.

[@dleblanc343]

@@ResolveReviews How’d you like 64A Blanc? Also need to hear the Mentor Multiverse, and Elys Annihilator 😌

[@ResolveReviews]

@@dleblanc343 ya I haven't heard those yet. Definitely on my radar.

[@dleblanc343]

@@ResolveReviews it’s like going from Clear to Utopia in techs, but also taking on some of the esoteric tuning quirks. The Mentor really matches my HRTF, came in blind at Canjam and walked out having to get one. Lacks a bit of sub 60Hz foundation though, nothing is perfect

[@carminedesanto6746]

I remember when Zeos won them at an audio show ..YEARS AGO…they set the benchmark for what’s was possible in IEM’s..at that time. Flash forward …what was a $2k level performance back then can be had for a quarter of the price. I’ve ended my IEM’s stable growth ( so far 😋) at the Moondrop Variations. The best of the Christmas season to you and yours.

[@vavent_]

Moondrop Variations gang here BTW, before purchasing Variations, was you thinking about Monarch MK2 as better option for a bit more?

[@carminedesanto6746]

@@vavent_ If I do get another addition to the IEM’s stable ( along with the IFI Gryphon) ..maybe MEST or Starlight V4 or Nanas …I’m not closed to getting another iem …but it’s has to be an absolute qualitative step up from Variations.

[@vavent_]

@@carminedesanto6746 Variations tuning is incredible, so I think it's hard to find clear upgrade especially in terms of tonality Except MEST never heard about other IEMs, from what I have seen recently you can also put on your radar Elysian Diva, looks like it's also sub base sound signature with great energy to female vocals, just like Variations, the only problem that they are a bit of boutique IEM, because they are made by one man and you can wait for IEM to be produced for more than 6 months, but still looks like all reviewers that have listened to them are really satisfied For my possible upgrade path from Variations maybe will be or U12t(maybe with eq to Harman or without) or Elysian Diva if it ever become more available in the world We can say there are a small amount of IEMs that are considered as upgrade of Variations, because this 520$ set competes with many 700-1000$ stuff easily, great value for money indeed

[@carminedesanto6746]

@@vavent_ Best of the Christmas season to you and yours .. The nearest dealer ( in Toronto) has the 64’s , Campfire and Meze IEM’s ..I’ve listened to the Meze ADVAR..very small and very nice ..and nearly double what I paid for my Moondrops . Definitely, I’d try before I’d buy ..because the clairvoyance looks damn interesting. Oh well, things to consider. Take care

[@wiesolos]

Lol coincidentally, I own both IEMs and consider variations as the best value IEM or even as the benchmark IEM sub 1000$ but same performance as u12t? Are we still listening to the same earphones? 😂

[@sameermana2003]

most overrated iem I've ever tried

[@vanilkharbanda]

You're overrated

[@AliArghavan]

Interesting, which IEMs would you prefer in the price range?

[@vanilkharbanda]

@@AliArghavan U12t is the benchmark

[@sameermana2003]

@@AliArghavan I actually think the nio are better than u12t everyone talks about how they're the benchmark but I tried them at canjam and was left underwhelmed... especially the bass...i personally own the noble audio khan and they suit my taste perfectly

[@wetalkinb0utpractice]

L.

[@coardtech]

So much compromise for the asking price.

[@michaelp.3485]

Not at all.

[@coardtech]

@@michaelp.3485 Just referring to the cons he stated about weird peaks and dips. It’s $2K, there shouldn’t be any little tiny minor con.

[@zlevelx]

Campfire andromeda 2020 save $900 and get those you won't be disappointed

[@vavent_]

Spicy take

[@carminedesanto6746]

Clairvoyance??

[@JaxxMono]

I love the andromeda but the U12T stomps on them in most aspects

[@even1313]

So hear me out. My issue with these is not how much they cost or anything to do with the sound. It's the logo plastered on the sides. I'm paying $2000 for this product. I don't need the logo there to remind me what the brand is. It's a weird nit pick but it's something that makes it feel cheap, in my eyes. And this issue isn't exclusive to this IEM in particular. It applies to basically everything.

[@Alepap.]

Yeah i feel 64 audio products don't look expensive, compared to other brands. I'd much prefer the look of the U18s for example and that better cable that it comes with.

[@ic2433]

With a set costing 2k I don't think flying under the radar of the public is a bad thing. They feel quality not sure I'd want them to be bling 😁

[@even1313]

@@ic2433 I don't mean bling. I just don't like logos all over my equipment. They're tacky.

[@Alepap.]

@@even1313 I think the logo is removable though i remember someone posted a pic in discord where he used a bunch of stickers of the U12t and when he tried to pull them off the logo came off with it

[@Glenn056]

Why does this nerdy guy talk so seriously

[@icarusix8750]

He's a good presenter. Well spoken and clear

[@kiavaxxaskew]

2,000 US dollars is serious

[@fabiojungle4722]

It's called being English

[@nespressoman]

Goldensound is brilliant.

[@iamthe1234567890]

$650. Yanyin x HBB Mahina. Endgame.

[@michaelp.3485]

No. 2023 Elysian Annihilator paired with Astell & Kern SP3000. END. GAME.

[@Ψορηα]

Aloha~ from Hawaii🏖 Regardless of today's content, I have a product that needs your opinion. I'm thinking of purchasing Unique Melody Maven Pro, but I'd like to hear your honest opinion before purchasing. Thanks in advance👍

[@mirzarazwan07]

Fantastic Review So Far 💚😃🤍 Do review BQEYZ winter......... please