Some pretty crucial things missing from the translation here around the 5 minute mark. This made it seem like they were cursing Tarja and Marcelo off almost for no reason but actually they were frustrated because Tarja & Marcelo left without even bothering asking if anyone else needed a ride to the hotel. The "Thanks for nothing" part was actually a sarcastic "thanks a lot for the ride" aimed to T & M. I don't know why they would translate it like this. Fortunately I'm here to save the situation in a very timely fashion 13 years too late.
@lizz_333y Жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot for pointing that out! Even if it's 13 years late, it's good info for new fans like myself to understand better what happened back then.
@enid99112 ай бұрын
I would have enjoyed the alone time with Tuomas and would have massaged him...
@rufuspanjaitan57594 жыл бұрын
5.23-5.43 shows the band's feeling toward Tarja and Marcello. I thought it was some kind of a joke until Emppu told the cameraman to shut off. Omg
@nocturnal033 жыл бұрын
Rewatching this made me realize that some people have this narrative where they blame Tuomas for everything, and act like he maliciously fired Tarja and the other guys said nothing just to keep their jobs, but in reality... Marco was always Tuomas right hand man, and you can see in this documentary that Jukka is the most pissed off against Tarja. Not just there but in all the snippets where they get asked what sucks the most on tour and he's all "CANCELLING THE SECOND U.S TOUR. THAT SUCKED AND I'LL NEVER FORGET IT" and we all know it was cancelled by Tarja, and how in the future he wants to "never have to cancel gigs except for major illness."
@lizz_333y Жыл бұрын
But please also remember the part where Tarja talked about how the band started a song without her even being on stage and she had to join them midway AND how they had to postpone a show by 1 day because she could barely speak. The members were giving their energy on stage but they were mostly playing instruments. Tarja was giving her energy AND forcing her vocal chords throughout 100 concerts one after the other, it was a lot more exhausting for her. There's no angels nor devils in this story.
@PharaHerine15 жыл бұрын
Tuomas and his Donald Duck comic! :D I love DD :D That was sooo cute xD "Singer has already left" - reeeally nice.
@georgiarock981113 жыл бұрын
She definately wasn't a diva,she was and is a very sweet person....But Marcello changed her a lot(I believe he didn't want to do any harm,it was just his way of acting)...It's very sad to see this,Tarja ignoring the other memebers and just being in the corner with Marcello,not even checking out on sick Marco...And the other memebers are so angry with her and they have every right to be ...:/
@mattchewhadaway1675 жыл бұрын
why? because she went to the hotel? They are very immature at this point, Whaaaaah the singer didnt check on me
@timomastosalo5 жыл бұрын
@@mattchewhadaway167 These kind of things grow slowly, it's drop by drop - and now it's closing the day when the cup runs over. It's not a single incident, there were many cases of lack of communication, late from the rehearsals - the work suffered from many incidents. I'm not saying they handled it well in the end, with their letter. Immaturity here, yes. But so was the treatment from the other party. Perhaps better not to pick sides too much, why your comment was actually balancing hers - just in the other end of the scale.
@Rosannasfriend5 жыл бұрын
I saw them ignoring her, not the other way around… They're mad at her for being married to him, and they were annoyed with his interjecting in the band.
@ysinoquiroke45984 жыл бұрын
I actually saw them being quite rude to her. rather those who ignore it are them and it is clearly seen. sometimes when you get together, they put you aside and then blame you for distancing yourself. Their lives used to be very crazy and she was calmer, there was nothing wrong with her going to the hotel or spending time with her husband, it is logical that this is the case, but they evidently wanted her to act as if her did not exist. husband ... who worked with them. sorry, i don't speak english very well
@blacksheep80613 жыл бұрын
after watching these nightwish on tour footage I just started loving nightwish even way more! :D ^^ so awesome music and so great and funny persons ^^
@WutheringHeightWoman15 жыл бұрын
So good to see them backstage-privately. Thank You for putting this documentary !!Notice the after-show conversation around 5:00-interesting... nd Thomas's stillness... yes, it all makes sense.
@AliceTbari11 жыл бұрын
1:47 sing "go away!" LOL
@WutheringHeightWoman14 жыл бұрын
part six, part six, wainting for part six ! please :) although... it all makes sense already...
@MadowsGraphisme4 жыл бұрын
And still, nobody saw that Jukka was full of anger toward Tarja ? Damn this band has issues back in the days.
@andreiaspinolaporto92064 жыл бұрын
I always notice that :(
@ysinoquiroke45984 жыл бұрын
Siendo objetivos.. lo que yo creo es que les molesta el simple hecho de que Tarja se haya casado con alguien que trabaja con ellos y por lo tanto tenian que ver seguido. Es muy inmaduro de su parte enojarse tanto porque Tarja se fue al hotel con su marido.. que carajos. Tal vez no pasa tanto tiempo con ellos, porque ignoran por completo a Marcelo, Toumas literalmente mira al suelo cuando aparece, realmente lo odia. Entonces, siendo hostiles como pretenden que Tarja actúe? Yo la veo intentando interactuar con ellos sin mucho éxito. Parecian esposos celosos, haciendo comentarios rudos cuando Tarja pasaba cerca, o enojados de que se haya ido al hotel. Quienes se comportaron como divas fueron ellos.
@Aeger1363 жыл бұрын
Creo que entiendo a las dos partes, por el lado de la banda yo creo que todos hemos tenido ese amigo o amiga que no sabe vivir sin su pareja y siempre termina imponiendo su presencia a su grupo de amigos aunque sabe perfectamente que nadie ahí lo o la tolera. Pero también puedo comprender el porque Tarja llegó a esos extremos y no hay que ser ningún analista ni estar presentes con ellos para darnos cuenta del porque de varias de sus acciones. Definitivamente Nightwish y Tarja fueron hechos para encontrarse, pero no para permanecer juntos, en fin.
@moclis13 жыл бұрын
@musikmood Tarja said "I don't need..." only one time. Tuomas said that they were in this moment were talking is not enough so they weren't talking much. We don't know if he tried, he haven't said it in any of his interviews. At one of the shows someone attacked Tarja, she was crying but no one from NW stayed with her so something in her broke. Tarja was a part of NW and many people love the combination of her voice and Tuomas's music, in new one there is only one part of two so theywantherback
@PingouinBleu114 жыл бұрын
1:48 LOL "ouououououo......go awayyyyyy.." she said she needs to prepare her voice alone, lol, that's cute.
@SwmpMnstrrr5 жыл бұрын
I as a singer as well, can definitely tell that it's super annoying to have someone there while you're trying to prepare yourself and your vocals :D
@hansenmarcelo3 жыл бұрын
in that places are a lot of noise and you need to hear your own voice to do that so important exercises, its a matter of responsibility for the job and for your health its self
@Aeger1363 жыл бұрын
@@SwmpMnstrrr I'm a singer too. This quarantine has been such a pain in the ass, taking online vocal performance classes at home, around all my family members and even having my neighbors dealing with my singing is definetely a challenge and not a fun time. I can't blame Tarja for asking the camera cam to gOoO awAayY lol
@987liss11 жыл бұрын
6:37 Tuomas reading donald duck xD
@pauldoerwang48795 жыл бұрын
And then going on years later to make a solo album based on Scrooge McDuck!
@Keyslayer12 жыл бұрын
he does, I've talked with him, he's so damn hilarious!
@VihhHeloise12 жыл бұрын
Tuomas soo cute reading his comic book *-------*
@The_Pony6 жыл бұрын
oyeee-oh-ayee-ohhhhh- go awaaaayyyyyyy
@bodombodom12313 жыл бұрын
@musikmood Yes, and of course you can tell everything about her attitude to the band from few words she said, taken out of context. I guess you also took part in that conversation. I don't get why people are histerical about ''I don't need NW'' thing. Why? When she said it, she was still in the band, and wanted to record one more album with them, therefore she was in NW not becouse she NEEDED it, but becouse she WANTED TO. But people always hear what they want to hear.
@LaurenHubik14 жыл бұрын
Haha I love the part qt 7:00 - 7:04 when Tuomas is reading the comics. xD It made me LOL.
@LatvianTelekinetic15 жыл бұрын
6:04 Marco's worried, not sleeping... strange.
@silenttears72814 жыл бұрын
damn, they keep blocking the part 6, i never got to see it! i still dont have the DVD =/
@hraskovymaniak0077 жыл бұрын
Please, what they are talking about after 5 minute? About Tarja and Marcello? - "Really sympathetic people these two. exactly. to hell with them."
@rodri_merli276 жыл бұрын
yeah, pretty much... they were pissed cause them both left straight to the hotel without them
@moclis13 жыл бұрын
1:29 like we all know every diva irons her clothes before a show
@rufuspanjaitan57594 жыл бұрын
No wonder Anette didn't want to be in the documentary "Learn the setlist in 48 hours."
@hmingthansangavangchhia49135 жыл бұрын
So Captain Jack Sparrow's a musician
@theonewhoistheone112 жыл бұрын
1:42- 1:50 angels voice
@MelWolff14 жыл бұрын
@jannisita18 biography on the official site??? i want to read that...
@PingouinBleu114 жыл бұрын
@ChibiFruit Hehey I'm not engliiish :) could you explain me what it means?
@yetricio12 жыл бұрын
1:50 Children of Bodom! hahaha Totally awesome e.e
@moclis13 жыл бұрын
@musikmood They both wanted it cause they couldn't understand each other, the whole situation around open letter show it. One they they will maybe say sorry to each other and this will be an end of Tarja vs Anette's wars of fans.
@angelofdarkness4915 жыл бұрын
So sad that they hardly talk/get along :(
@Furrylittleproblem126 жыл бұрын
06:03 - 06:12 "I think I left the stove on"
@Bexrt15 жыл бұрын
hey, where can I find part 6? :D thanks
@LaurenHubik14 жыл бұрын
Is part 6 ever gonna show up..?
@Bob.McBobface12 жыл бұрын
is jukka speaking? o.O
@MerelMystery15 жыл бұрын
where is part 6??
@uzumakiarual14 жыл бұрын
What are your plans after this concert? R: well send to tarja a flowers with a letter, and tell her bye bye beautiful... Conclution, Damn
@hraskovymaniak0077 жыл бұрын
Made my day :D
@bazarista47209 жыл бұрын
COB!!! :D
@PingouinBleu114 жыл бұрын
@ChibiFruit What does it mean :ο
@ItsMeMarieClaire11 жыл бұрын
0:34 On your Valentine's?? I think he meant on your vacations.. hahahaha
@HKriszta7012 жыл бұрын
7:40 Tuomas is so sad or tired...
@Vale0Rec13 жыл бұрын
ya sabemos quien realmente es el divo en esta banda es emppu no es tarja ...pidiendo que apaguen la cámara y diciéndole improperios a tarja en dos vídeos atrás
@mikewill951113 жыл бұрын
This isn't NW. Marcelo and Tarja always together and appart from the band. I would've kicked her out too.
@uberandy66612 жыл бұрын
Wtf! Jukka speaking english O.o and good too! wonder if emppu speaks english...
@keithyh37115 жыл бұрын
Why is Targa never their for interviews ?
@timomastosalo5 жыл бұрын
Tarja (said like Taryah) It's the same name as Daria in English. Even the Finnish T easily sounds D for the English ears. She was in the interviews in the earlier episodes. Here I don't know why she isn't there, but neither does she explain it well to the band - they clearly react to her absence and uncommunicative moves.
@MrsLesleyOlivia14 жыл бұрын
1:26 is that Tarja?xd
@MerelMystery15 жыл бұрын
what wmg? xp
@Myworld191613 жыл бұрын
5:42 to 5:55 is really scary!
@uzumakiarual14 жыл бұрын
@uzumakiarual i hate my ortography
@keithyh37115 жыл бұрын
To hell with those to says a lot
@NeCrOoO9513 жыл бұрын
@Supernature06 living dead beat :D
@elviraluu14 жыл бұрын
HAHHAHAA the book tuomas is reading HAHAHAA i love him :D
@brucekirk8915 жыл бұрын
I actually had a piece of shit band manager that made me and the band sing little time sheets out for his boss.