7 African Church Fathers You Should Know | African Christians That Taught Europeans

[@FaithTalks]

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[@N.I.X_T.V]

History books won't tell you that while the first widespread texts of the whole bible were in Greek that there is an Ethiopia text too that predates colonisation. I will never hear that Christianity is a white man's religion, no evidence no logic and no wisdom can be found in that claim. Amazing video

[@FaithTalks]

I didn't even know that! Thanks for sharing - if you have any resources we'd love to seem em!

[@N.I.X_T.V]

@@FaithTalks there are various sources on it but the British library has the least subjective overview of it's existence: www.bl.uk/collection-items/ethiopic-bible?gclid=CjwKCAjw0On8BRAgEiwAincsHCnxaYl9_tzFB4VMZTiPxRngIzHIca3yyylkJ8Htep4GbufQ-EOSURoCkQYQAvD_BwE

[@FaithTalks]

@@N.I.X_T.V amazing! Thank you for that and God bless your studying

[@feleslucis-emanueldearaujo6237]

Exactly! It's true that we do not have the actual original versions of the gospels in our grasp (which were written in Hebrew and Aramaic), but many early Christians did preach in different languages and even translated to other languages so they could reach more people.

[@shawnd04]

In addition to the Ethiopic translation, there are also very early Coptic and Nubian translations. Bruce Metzger has a nice synopsis of these early manuscripts in "The Bible In Translation".

[@mcspankey4810]

The writings of the Church Fathers are so rich, their lives and spiritual writings have helped me so much. Thanks for the video!

[@autumxxleaves4186]

Ikrrrrr

[@FaithTalks]

God bless ya!

[@kamelleon9131]

@@FaithTalks Tertullian wasn't black and he was born in Tunisia not Morocco. Most of the African church fathers are not black they from north Africa

[@magmasunburst9331]

If people would have read them they would not have gone into false teachings because they talk often of stillness and detachment which are things people are seeking today.

[@kamelleon9131]

Facts and they were blacks

[@workinabroad]

I had basically given up trying to correct people that decide to leave the faith due to "white Jesus" and "Massa's religion". Thank you so much! I could just about cry about how deeply some people have ruined it for some of God's children.

[@FaithTalks]

I hope you enjoyed this video! What's your favourite part of the video, lemme know in the comments below

[@elle5680]

Thank you

[@padah2k386]

It was sooo informative with a splash entertainment. Great job!

[@mr.punkie5872]

The history of African Christianity predates European Christianity. African Christianity it’s so interesting.

[@lit.a]

I watched the video again, funny how since the beginning of Christianity we are basically fighting the same heresies (until this day lol)

[@FaithTalks]

Till this day lol! This is why we gotta learn how saints dealt with it in the past

[@thomism1016]

Interesting point, Lita P.

[@KiRetteCouture]

The devil ain't creative lol

[@Jeem196]

too true

[@Fivepointcalv]

Thats why study/reading of Church History is so important since the devil keeps recycling his same old tricks.

[@voiceofhopemedia]

I just discovered your channel...this I think is a true African Christian KZbin. You earned my subscription

[@FaithTalks]

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[@trueblueclue]

In ancient times North Africa was the "Bible Belt" of the Christian world before the Islamic invasions. Thank you for talking about the many early church intellectuals came from the area. It truly produced heavy hitters.

[@FaithTalks]

Honestly! Thank you for watching and keep on seeking truth!

[@DJ-uc8mk]

Every African named in this video was born and raised in a European controlled territory in Africa. They were all raised and taught under European institutions. All these Africans listed in the video have Greek/Latin names. I'm sure most of them spoke Latin and or Greek. Who introduced Augustine to the bible? Who introduced Minucuius and Athanasius to the bible? We all know it that it was not an African institution that introduced these folks to christianity.. We have to be more honest about this information.. Stop bending history to create a comfortable space for you to keep your beliefs.

[@DJ-uc8mk]

You mentioned the bible belt... Please when you have the time pull up a map of the bible belt in america.. And then compare the map of the bible belt to the map of the slave states here in america.. And then explain to me what the reason is for the slave states and the bible belt states being the exact same states

[@YouGotOptions2]

In ancient time North Africa was also the slavery belt.

[@bempire26]

@@DJ-uc8mk back then bible belt refer more to new england and surrounding areas (wonder why these states were the first to ban slavery?) which is then far more religious (and indeed full of religious fundamentalist) and only gradually move to where it is now (the south) only after the civil war

[@kingzway7]

Luv this my yute ! God is working in you keep pouring dat salt bra!! Yehshua is King!! 🙏🏼👍🏼💪🏽🔥❤

[@callumjaye]

My bro always coming with that heat 🔥

[@FaithTalks]

Yes my guy! Thank you for watching

[@Orcneas23]

Indeed! The African influence on Christianity cannot be underestimated. St. Simon Of Cyrene, the very man who carried Jesus’ cross to Golgotha, became one of the earliest missionaries to Greece where he traveled with St. Paul Of Tarsus, and later became bishop of Avignon, France before being martyred by crucifixion. His sons St. Rufus and St. Alexander also became missionaries. Not to mention all the Church fathers mentioned in this video, and so much more. Other African saints that are worth looking into are: St. Perpetua. St. Maurice, St. Moses the Black, St. Mary Of Egypt, St. Adrian of Canterbury, St. Kaleb, St. Marcarius of Egypt, and St. Anthony the Great.

[@BibleStudyWithFriends]

I really enjoyed your video and will be passing it on to a number of my friends. I have been impressed with the african presence in the body of Christ from the very beginning. For example there's a number of indications that the man who carried Christ's cross was from Africa and that at least one and maybe two men who started the gentile church in Antioch where from Cyrene... a North African city. I think this explains and complements Paul's teaching in the first century that, in the body of Christ, there was no partiality or favoritism between Jew and Gentile, Greek or Barbarian, Man or Female nor slave or free. Really liked what you had to say... keep up the good work.

[@BibleStudyWithFriends]

@Dericka Michelle I remember speaking in a church in Dallas TX and the title of my sermon was, "Christ was not an American" and you would have thought I had released false teaching into the service... They did not like what the Bible clearly taught about Jesus being a person of color. Sad, but we can see how easy it was for the first century Jews to have similar misconceptions about who the Messiah "just had to be." I think it's best to just stick to what the Bible actually says. Thanks Dericka - I enjoy your thoughts and ministry.

[@alexmclean6539]

This was a fantastic video bro should be shown in schools!! So informative👏🏾

[@FaithTalks]

Thanks my guy! That’s really encouraging bro much love ❤️

[@michaelangelo9119]

Very nice. Good summary.

[@derippaa]

This is beautiful. All 7 were Catholic brothers. Praise be to God

[@oldschool5]

LOL Nothin makes white folks feel more comy than black Christian males.

[@dejapeterson4390]

Was waiting for this!

[@FaithTalks]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@thefragrancecritic9136]

It’s crazy how when you look up Augustin they paint him as white

[@anglepepper6966]

Africa I know you are suppressed and are a big Christan nation with weapons. You are important to the evil problem we have facing us all today stay strong and you will have what you need God willing we all make it through this difficult time but remember God is with us in unity and their assembly will come to nothing as long as we keep Faith. In my thoughts and prayers.

[@cleancutimage5105]

Subscribed! This topic is rich! Thanks brother!

[@Jeem196]

And the fact Christianity came from an area 60miles from my grandfather's house in Lebanon! Christianity was built on ancient Middle Eastern, African, and Greek knowledge and councils. it only emphasized the north more once Islam had conquered the majority of the ancient Christian lands. Patriarchate of Antioch, Alexandria, and Constantinople are still around, and the Tewahedo Church of Ethiopia has one of the least-changed denominations in all of Christendom. There is even claim that the Ethiopian Church possesses the legendary Ark of the Covenant. Christianity in Africa began with East and North Africa centuries before it hit most of Europe. It's central and western africa that got Christianized later by the European colonists. Didn't even know about this channel until now, just subbed.

[@KelzBernard]

Good video brother! Grace and peace

[@housechurchbiblestudy1519]

This was AWESOME 💥💥💥💥💥💥💯💯💯 This will be shared!!!!

[@MrPanchoak]

I am not Roman Catholic. But I do hold most of their views. When we read the Epistle to St.Jude, the first Chapter of Galatians. We find that there is only one Gospel. The one Gospel which had been accepted from the Apostles in the first place. We have a book wherein we find many records of disputes and corrective measures found in the early Church. But we do not find an exhaustive list of all the Apostolic doctrine and praxis. It is certainly available through the Catholic Church. And the East. But not through scripture alone. You should carefully examine the Church of Eritria, Ethiopia, and Egypt. Their doctrine so closely resembles Catholic Doctrine that it removes any doubt concerning what Early Christians believed. They definitely weren't protestant in any way. Nor should we be.

[@ericrichards3523]

I'm thoughly inspired and thoughtfully regretful of ever think I knew enough Twice in as many days I'm being lead to look to the Roots in the motherland of Christianity. God bless 🙏 and keep you 💯 In the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ Amen

[@APeculiarDiaryVideos]

Shalom to you dear brother!

[@thomism1016]

Cool video. I have preached this 'not the white man's religion' for years. THANK YOU.

[@FaithTalks]

Thank you for watching! God bless

[@nmp3132]

God bless you bro - I hope this channel grows and you go from strength to strength

[@joshchabalaendure6223]

This is veryyy very good

[@FaithTalks]

Thanks bro!

[@kristinahall6575]

I’m 46 and I asked the Father who were the first African well Black Queens that knew Him. He said they in the Bible. ☺️

[@DeusVivit]

St. Athanasius defender of the faith wrote the book On the Incarnation which was so important that was considered to be an extension of the New Testament and almost was included in it. He is one of our greatest Popes! Also a note, the Coptic Orthodox Church founded by St. Mark the Evangelist in 33 A.D. was one of the most influential contributors to the Faith. You seem to have a very catholic/prot view but I would love to see you make a video about the Oriental Orthodox Church we have Ethiopia in our communion along with Eritrea, Syria, and Armenia. (One saint I love to bring up when people try to claim that Christianity is a "white man's" religion is St. Moses the Black his story is very very inspiring!)

[@dexterjweaver4812]

All of the video of GREAT! Salute!🙏💯💪

[@edwindarius7232]

I like this video! Keep it up!

[@FaithTalks]

Thanks Edwin, will do!

[@victoriat9145]

Excellent video! God bless you! I deffo need to go read up! Do you have any sources to recommend?

[@FaithTalks]

Thanks for watching! A great way to start would be to read more into the 7 mentioned in the video. I'm even looking more into this myself and will keep you all posted the more I learn

[@jaredbrooks2226]

Jesus saves

[@autumxxleaves4186]

This gives me HOPE!!!!! I love church history💕✨✝️☦️🛐

[@FaithTalks]

That's amazing! It's super important for us to learn from the past, to have a better tomorrow

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

Amen, continue to grow in the knowledge of God. Proverbs 3:5-6 Proverbs 9:10

[@yakovmatityahu]

Love and blessings from an indian Christian brother ❤

[@c.retana-holguin8318]

Excellent video!

[@NorSpeaksOut]

This video is so good! Thanks for dropping all of this knowledge for the saints. Come into church on Monday and Pastor by Sunday🤣😂🤣😂 hilarious

[@FaithTalks]

🤣🤣 thanks for watching!

[@reddnewmillennium]

This was good I have to rewatch this though. I run into a lot of people that’s say it’s a white man religion but I’m glad you explained this. Makes me feel more stronger in my faith

[@feleslucis-emanueldearaujo6237]

Heya, Eman, I'm coming a little late to the party, but I really wanted to thank you for your great work these days, especially because there are groups who preach that Christianity is the religion of the whites which was imposed to the blacks, which is completely wrong, being that we have plenty of evidence that it wasn't the case. Kudos to you, man, you're being brave in your video, showing the reality of the fact. By the way, I've been reading that, in the past, White Supremacists believed exactly that and that they would use this argument to be against black people being pastors or even preaching to white people, which is something quite interesting that some people who say they are against white supremacy are reproducing the same argument white supremacists made back in the day (which was completely false). PS: By the way, I spotted just a little mistake in the video (very small mistake, by the way). When you were talking about Marcus Minucius Felix, you ended up putting the photo of a statue of Marcus Aurelius which was a Roman emperor known to be a philosopher and a follower of the Stoicist philosophy. He may have been a great leader, but he wasn't a Christian.

[@FaithTalks]

Emanuel my namesake! Thank you so much for watching. I'm not surprised that argument was used back in the day to prevent Black Pastors. When people have an agenda they'll twist facts to prove their point. It's sad, but God is sovereign and thankfully (in most cases) we've most past that. Even though there is a long way to go! We are made in Christ's image. We should never make Christ in our image

[@FaithTalks]

And thanks for spotting the mistake! Much appreciated - you clearly know your history brother

[@feleslucis-emanueldearaujo6237]

@@FaithTalks fortunately, we are going into a good direction in this regard. Churches are caring less about the race of their pastors or attendees. I'm glad that here in Brazil we already have a great number of black pastors and priests, so I really hope we can make the churches more "mixed" so, in countries in which racism is still rampant, we may be able to make people see the essence of the person instead of judging for the colour of their skin. And you're quite welcome, my friend. Helping you is a great pleasure.

[@Jeem196]

Glad we are all keeping the truth alive.

[@floydwhite1338]

So glad Jerome Gay Jr. Gave us some new images of the church father's because "The White Washing of Christianity" is real in some of those pictures you currently show. Love y'all fam stay encouraged!❤🙏🏿

[@RedemptionMinistries77803]

#AncientAfricanChristianity 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@KiRetteCouture]

Just war theory is taught in politics. Augustine was an intellectual and theological heavy weight who had a very interesting life.

[@HarrisonFamilyValues]

Dope content bro. Keep it up.

[@lit.a]

Lol I need to read early Christian books

[@FaithTalks]

You and me both! I'm just getting started

[@feleslucis-emanueldearaujo6237]

You will open a complete new world in the front of your eyes the moment you do that. They show a reality which most of us ignore, but we live the positive consequences of their work, sweat and blood.

[@jahray6300]

@@feleslucis-emanueldearaujo6237 where can we find them?

[@og-ci3xy]

Love african Church from europe❣

[@PHLSPHY.]

Very thorough video with plenty of religio-historical facts. Loool bmt Augustine wasn't into eating grass and that.

[@FaithTalks]

lool truss. Thanks for watching!

[@MTeddyLdebele]

Thank ... people are waking up bow days

[@rxaxlxpxh]

I am an atheist, don't need or believe in life after death. That said I like historically truthful facts.l really like the Ethiopian churches artwork, and that the book of Job took place in Africa. Have you done anything on Santo niño del atocha (not sure of spelling) Hispanic saint?

[@FaithTalks]

Thanks for watching! I haven't heard of Santo niño de atocha but will learn about it if I get time to. I hope you enjoy my other videos though and come to know Jesus. You may not believe now, but Jesus is the truth and he's available to you brother!

[@4gillman]

Can't forget Saint Moses the Black! Not a very influential Saint, I dont believe he wrote much. But his story is truly inspiring

[@FaithTalks]

I didn't know about him before but will definitely check him out! Thank you and God bless

[@thekingofsomewhere]

I'm Orthodox Christian, and St. Moses is my name-saint :) He didn't really write, but we have many of his quotes and stories of his life preserved. He's considered one of the Desert Fathers, many of whom were African.

[@SrDre-vt5dv]

Hello Faith Talks I would recommend a few more saints St. Moses the Ethiopian St. Cyril of Alexandria also Eastern Orthodoxy is the true church

[@jonasninanmathew9312]

You should have included St Anthony the Great, Father of Monasticism.

[@goyensjonathandjalmoztfr33]

#FACTS

[@wordassassinhebrews4125]

Just Subscribe to your channel 🔥

[@dorothywilder1010]

Awesome video ..maybe some people well stop thinking Christianity is a European religion ..it should of been common sense with the region all this took place

[@oldschool5]

Afraid Not. Im sure all of the Early African Church Fathers spoke Latin, had Greek or Latin names and were educated in Greek and or Roman provinces in Africa.

[@GordonPasha1885]

Only the Roman Catholic Church today can claim unbroken continuity with the original Catholic Chuch, founded by Our Lord as the "Body of Christ". The 7 Sacraments and forms of worship are continued today. Stop "Protesting" / rebelling and come back home!

[@johnsiverls116]

Its just history and there is more.

[@cdub11532]

Notice none of those leaders mentioned were indigenous black Africans. The Libyans leaders he showed were probably mixed with people from the Levant. The Coptic leaders mentioned were either Roman or mixed with the original black Egyptians. Remember these foreigners thought the Neteru were Gods and not symbols/representations of one God.

[@FaithTalks]

I never said anything about their ethnicity, just where they were from. Why does their race matter to you?

[@eldotjay]

You know what the come back will be “but these man are all N African. This doesn’t show how Christianity was introduced to W Africans!...” Check the video I posted in the BASS group chat though. We have that covered too.

[@FaithTalks]

Then the question will be "but they were only Nigerian, therer weren't Ghanaians" lol! The main thing to debunk is the idea that Europoeans were somehow the originiators of Christian doctrine. No Sir! Love for watching

[@loisirsentertainment5919]

Oh please could you share the link to that video you posted in the BASS group chat? I usually face the same comeback from afrocentrists these days. Would be really helpful I guess, to watch your video. Thanks

[@thomism1016]

Big up @Faith Talk. Astute young man. Just stumbled upon your channel. Awesome in depth account of some the early church fathers of African decent. I predicted St Augustine of Hippo would be your last from what you said about him at the beginning. One quick and vitally important correction though. There is ABSOLUTELY no difference between the Catholic (universal) church of the 1st century and that of today. Christ established His church here on earth in Matt.16:18 and that church has a continuous and unbroken lineage that can empirically be traced historically and liturgically to this day. The current Bishop of Rome sits on the 'Chair of Peter' (cathedra), the churches very first Pope and every catholic bishop today, if asked, can trace his ordination all the way back to the bishops of the first century. Concerning this, there is absolutely no doubt. I am open to CIVILISED AND INTELLIGENT dialogue on this and other matters concerning Catholic apologetics. if you'd like. I wish you all the very best

[@FaithTalks]

Haha glad that you clocked onto Augustine quite early. Thanks for the comment. I hold a different view to the governance of the church. When Jesus tells Peter that he'll build his church on this rock, he doesn't say that he will build his church on Peter, rather he will build his church on the proclamation that Jesus is the Christ (this is the first time Peter has declared Jesus to be the Christ). We see in the apostolic age that the gospel spreads through Peter, but also through many people when Peter isn't even around. Peter was a key presence in the early church, but wasn't a single or final authority. The authority was spread amongst the apostles, who were not replaced after they left. The authority in the early scripture accounts is then passed on to local church gatherings, and not to a bishop or episcopal structure. Of course many people appointed bishops, but I don't think this was what Christ had in mind for the structure of his church. So I completely reject the papacy and I fellowship in congregationally led and elder guided churches. I hope that makes sense and I'd be keen to hear your thoughts.

[@liamblumeris6933]

@@FaithTalks if this is the case why would jesus change his name from Simon to Peter. I would jesus give Peter "the keys to the kingdom" and that "the gates of hades shall not prevail against the church"- built upon Peter. Firstly the context the this is significant, In essence jesus is now transferring power and authroity to St Peter which he has taken away from the high priest (who previous held the keys to the kingdom ie the temple) However this church built on Peter is way more symbolic. The church is like a bride and jesus is the groom. In ancient jewish customs the groom would prepare a place to live for his groom before they are married (some can stay betrothed for some time until a house is built) That's why Jesus says I go now to prepare a place for you. I'm trying to avoid getting to technical but I would advice you listen to Trent horn on the papacy. I must say though even though I agree with the papacy and the authority of the holy father. I do not agree with most of his standings . The pope is infallible not impeccable. Peter taught to love your neighbor but would not done with the gentiles (paul rebuked him for this ) Peter taught infallibly but he was by no means impeccable he even denied God thrice.

[@liamblumeris6933]

@@FaithTalks you can also find in the bible that Peter would have the final word in most disbutes (the disciples looked to him for answers )

[@FaithTalks]

@@liamblumeris6933 Hey Liam! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Peter was clearly an important figure, but nowhere are we told that Peter was the final authority of the church. He, like the other apostles, had authority that Jesus had given him. Again though, we're not told anywhere in scripture that this authority was meant to be passed down through a line of papacy. The papacy comes from superimposing meaning onto what Jesus said, and a desire to put in place a mediator to our mediator. But we don't need one. We have Jesus. We have his word.

[@liamblumeris6933]

@@FaithTalks I don't think it needs to be stated it is most definitely implied to be the case. Peter is mentioned more than any other apostle and in order of importance Peter is named first with judas being named last. The words "Holy Trinity" isn't even in the bible yet we believe it to be true. Then why does jesus tell Peter whatever you bind on earth is bound in heaven why does he give him this powerful authority? All 12 apostles were seen as rulers of the kingdom of God but Jesus changed Simon's name to Peter so that he could take on that name and he was given the keys to the kingdom "keys" is symbolic of the authority that he would now hold. And that whatever he bound on earth would be bound in heaven. He stripped israel of that authroity and gave it to Peter. Many people flocked to Peter some even just to be covered by his shadow so that they may be healed. We are all mediators for each other hear on earth. I can pray for you (as a mediator) to jesus Our mediator unless you don't believe in that either ? It's called intercessorry prayer. But that has nothing to do with the role of the pontif.

[@ayenewyihune]

Christianity is after all not about origin. But, if there be one it's first a middle east religion and second it's African. The only place recorded that Jesus visited outside Israel is Egypt (He stayed there for three years). The first non Jewish man recorded to have believed is the Ethiopian eunuch. The second nation to accept Christianity as an official religion is the Axumite Empire of Ethiopia, only after the Armenians. Add to this what is in the video.

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[@wubshettekola701]

that is a good concept. why don't you make a further study, meet with The Coptic, Ethiopian Orthodox Christians(Churches) and get back to original Christianity!

[@DJ-uc8mk]

Who told these early african church fathers about the bible. Why do all of these church fathers have greek and latin names... Why do these african church fathers all speak greek and latin. Why is there always a european between the african being introduced to bible god.,

[@jonahembrom4043]

I never heard white man say Christianity is religion of white people, I am an Indian I would not agree if they would say because the God/Jesus I know is Lord of all and He was from middle East probably born brown skin or Black skin, but the world is ought to worship Him for being His creation.

[@mugikuyu9403]

Why would they need to say that? It’s self evident. Do you belong to a Protestant denomination? Who are the main thought-leaders behind your particular Christian sect? I bet they’re white. Who brought Christianity to your shores? He definitely did not have black skin like southern Africans and some Indians. He most probably had skin like modern Lebanese people and that’s more white than black. It definitely is a white religion, but you can believe in it if you want to. For me, there’s no reason to believe in such tales.

[@mugikuyu9403]

@no hymen no diamond WTH? Christianity was not brought to India by Apostle Paul, where did you get that idea. It might have been brought to India by Syrian Christian’s early in the first century, but it had zero Impact on India. It was then brought again to India by Portuguese imperialists and other European missionaries.

[@bkessel77]

Great video. What would be helpful to add in is that Christology was fluid and many beleifs which were seen as orthodox in their day were then seen to be heresy. The Trinity as we understand it today (as crystallised in the various ecumenical councils) was the theological argument that ultimately won. Personally I no longer believe that Christ was ever present with God. Somewhere along the line, JC's divinity which was identified following his crucifixion and ascension to heaven was pushed back from his crucifixion, then to his baptism, to his birth and then to be ever present with God; in essence JC was assumed to be God's Logos.

[@FaithTalks]

Thanks for watching. What makes you think Jesus didn’t teach his divinity to his disciples, and prove this with his resurrection?

[@gkeith64]

Look up star forts around the globe..

[@YouGotOptions2]

No disrespect but why is any of this important? This is essentially a Roman Catholic Church history lesson, which includes largely non Black Berber Africans, being passed off as "African History" that Blacks are supposed to be proud of? What about all of the indigenous African religions that predate Judaism, Christianity and Islam? Additionally, lot of the North African/Berbers especially just about every single one highlighted here, are "white". Even some of their descendants in the current day in morrocco are referred to as "white moors".

[@JabirBassom]

Saint Athanasius was called “the Black Dwarf.” Which implies he was if not black, very dark skinned. One part that isn’t mentioned in the Bible is that Zephaniah was half-Ethiopian himself.

[@cynbahati]

The more I read abt Tertullian the more im convinced he was an opp

[@FaithTalks]

Why do you feel that way?

[@cynbahati]

​@@FaithTalks He was essentially more influenced by Montanism than by the actual word of God, was anti-marriage (one of God's key pillars for his Kingdom) and was highly misogynistic, and in this regard he and Jesus were polar opposites.

[@oldschool5]

Tertullian is not an African name. What language did Tertullian speak; Latin? Where is he from? Is Tertullian from a European controlled province in Africa.

[@nickjones1314]

Faith Talks. SMH.. Thats our problem. We need some Fact Talks. Faith helps you believe. We have nations full of believers. Facts allow you to know.. We need some more knowers. Facts>Faith Bruh

[@RonaldSimpson-g6k]

You missed the Father over them John Mark the apostle

[@stopwhinning]

Ethiopians please!

[@vtaylor21]

Thank you for the presentation. I have a collection of some of the African Fathers’ writings, and it is fruitful learning how the early Christians taught and practice. In the U.S., Black Americans (at least the ones I have talked to) don't recognize them as Africans. They will say the real Africans did not live in the North. The last real Africans were the ancient Egyptians (ancient Kemet). What do you say when you people say those African Fathers are not real Africans?

[@FaithTalks]

Thanks for watching! In answer to your question, if Northern Africans aren't real Africans then African Americans aren't Americans at all. It's the same principle. If living in African for over 1000 years doesn't make you an African then I don't know what will. And the point really is that Christianity was not a European invention, but predates Europe's presence in Africa. Christianity doesn't belong to White Men any more than it belongs to Black Men. The gospel is God's!

[@Bobomulo]

Umm, there was different vCatholic Church? Really?

[@autumxxleaves4186]

There’s Christian orthodoxy: ethophian orthodox is one huge Christian denomination which precedes colonisation

[@FaithTalks]

The Catholic church at one time refered to the universal church. At a time there was a split between Christainity in the East and in the West, and many years later after the reformation, protestantism broke away from Catholicism and has been growing since.

[@GordonPasha1885]

Yep, only the Roman Catholic Church today can claim "unbroken continuity" with the original Catholic Chuch, founded by Our Lord as the "Body of Christ". The 7 Sacraments and forms of worship are continued today! Good folk should stop "Protesting" / rebelling, study the Church Fathers and come back home!

[@nellyd9280]

@@FaithTalks There is also, Christian congolese that precedes slave trade. There is so much information about the contribution of Africans/African descendants that has been overlooked!

[@scottscott548]

You missed clement

[@FaithTalks]

Will look into him further! Do you recommend any resources

[@aroundtheworld2813]

lol we wuz kangz and shiet north africans arnt even related to sub saharan african or even look similair to them

[@kwameadjei7350]

That incest thing is wrong. Because Adam and Eve cannot conceive offspring and spread around the world and 'multiply' without "incest". But then again if you know, you know. 1ove

[@fabbeyonddadancer]

Protestantism is the white mans religion not apostolic Judeo Christianity; Latin Catholic Church , Eastern Orthodox Church , oriental African Orthodox Church and the church of the east .

[@FaithTalks]

What makes you say that when the Protestants and reformers adopted many doctrines from outside of europe? (E.g. augustine, tertullian etc)

[@tjgumede]

But how come some are white?

[@mugikuyu9403]

I notice you only spoke about North Africans, who are considers Caucasians. How did black Southern Africans become Christians?

[@paladinhansen137]

Yep, he doesnt realize these people are a mix of Romans, Phoenicians and Greeks by blood. Lies to his audience and himself to make him feel better. God have mercy on him.

[@mugikuyu9403]

@@paladinhansen137 God is a myth. The ruling classes in North Africa were at various times Phoenicians, Greeks, and Romans, but the vast majority of North Africans were native berbers. One of the reasons Islam spread so quickly in North Africa was because the Muslims went outside of the major cities (where the Greeks and Romans lived) and actually converted the Native population (who hadn’t been Christianised). So you’re also being dishonest too. May your imaginary God have mercy on your non-existent soul.

[@paladinhansen137]

@@mugikuyu9403 God is Math. Math is God. Its also weird that my Hebrew Greek Bible has Pi, Eulers code/natural logarithm, Golden Ratio, Fine structure constant/smmerfields constant, Pythagorean theorem, Geometry, basic arithmetic, etc etc. by using alphanumerics in my Hebrew and Greek. So, nice try kiddo but try debunking the God of Israel! He is the YHVH Elohim/ Logos of Mathematics! Youre made in His express spiritual image and physical likeness right down to the very amino acids that make up the proteins and cells in your body because I can also calculate amino acids from the Bible! So I highly beg to differ. He is also talking about in this video people before Islam, so why are you bringing that up? It not even logical but I'm not surprised because you deny the Logos Himself! Why not mention the Vandals who were Germanic? Because the people all mentioned in his video lived long before Berbers and vandals. These people he all mentioned were Greeks, Phoenician's, and Romans by blood! Rere Jenkins God have mercy on you too! Not Ethiopians or Sub Saharan Africans, Or Germans or Berbers. These were Romans, Greeks, Phoenicians. Olive people situated around the Mediterranean.

[@mugikuyu9403]

@@paladinhansen137 God is a story that men tell. And all stories are man made. Berbers are the various native peoples of North Africa that the Romans described as barbarians since they couldn’t understand their language. Indeed, the word Berber is derived from the word barbarian. All I did with my comment was give more information about the native peoples of North Africa who were at various times conquered by different races of men, from Phoenicians to Romans. These conquerers would often become the ruling class in the conquered territory, but not the ethnic majority. Why does this clarification offend you so? Also, we prefer Southern African instead of ‘Sub-Saharan’.

[@paladinhansen137]

@@mugikuyu9403 I prefer the men mentioned in this video to be acknowledged in truth for who they really are and that is Greeks, Phoenicians, and Romans. All of them. "Southern African" etc. is a false reality and as the man falsely presents and you erroneously fail to comprehend the reality that Berbers are descendants of Phoenicians, hence Phoenicians. You also fail to erroneously comprehend that if they were what you claim like the man in this video they would be labelled as Ethiopians. The Berbers arnt referred to as such. God has mathematically proven his existence as He has already proven self evident in HIs pure Word. Need examples because I got Pi in Genesis 1:1 and Euler's Code in John 1:1! So try me~

[@elle5680]

Thank you very much, may God bless you in your ministry. Please do a thorough research of the 12 son's of Israel i.e. Jacob. Remember, it was only the two or three tribes who came back to Israel, the Jews, but the 10 tribe's who were the first to be rebellious taken into slavery, most of them NEVER went back. They also hid their identity, intermarried for fear of persecution, that is Israel. So to speak, Israel was scattered allover, including Africa, along the Nile. When Noah was born, he was so pale like the fallen angels who left their first estate, so they went to seek before God, if he was that breed mixture of human and angels, but he was just an Albino so to speak, meaning Noah's family was black. God created man out of dust, clay l should say. We see African children playing with clay making dolls out of it, none shows peach color PLEASE. Meaning, the Adam and Eve were black made from clay, Noah's family was black etc..... Noah's son's, Ham's descendants were Cush ( Ethiopians) etc... May God Bless His work Amen Amen!

[@andrewstaples8677]

And Ebers wife was the granddaughter of Cush

[@douglasdde376]

Tertulian is not a father of the church, highly influential but left Christianity near the end of life, since you mentioned Calvin and Luther, it would appear you are not Catholic, Carthage vs Rome unlikely, but as Paul says we are one, not white, not black, but hey if you are anti white, seems a contradiction , only one I can give you Augustine,Aquinas being the most Catholic, like Catholic just above the other Augustine. So sad to be negative your are fine person,

[@oldschool5]

Black Folks are trying to find their identity in a religion introduced to them by White Folks. The Young Brotha thought he had something until folks like you come around just to remind him that every African Church Father was practicing under a European Institution. Its a messed up thing when a nation of people stick with the deity introduced to them by their oppressor but are ashamed that they were introduced to their deity by their oppressor. They try to change history and remove the "oppressor's" influence from the belief system. Sad.

[@robertbridger111]

As a vegan Christian I have faith the African Christians was vegetarians, but unfortunately the Roman line ate flesh ,

[@DJ-uc8mk]

Every African named in this video was born and raised in a European controlled territory in Africa. They were all raised and taught under European institutions. All these Africans listed in the video have Greek/Latin names. I'm sure most of them spoke Latin and or Greek. Who introduced Augustine to the bible? Who introduced Minucuius and Athanasius to the bible? We all know it that it was not an African institution that introduced these folks to christianity.. We have to be more honest about this information.. Stop bending history to create a comfortable space for you to keep your beliefs.

[@loisirsentertainment5919]

That doesn't change anything to the fact that they were africans.

[@DJ-uc8mk]

@@loisirsentertainment5919 Africans being introduced to their god by europeans

[@KiRetteCouture]

Please clarify what your point is.

[@DJ-uc8mk]

@@KiRetteCouture My point is that there is a European institution at the origin of every African nation's introduction to christianity. Black christians always try to give us these early african church fathers as if the african was responsible for the introduction of christianity to african people.. Whenever the black christian mentions these early african church father, the black christian never explains the background of these early african church fathers... They always leave out the fact these early african church fathers were raised and schooled under roman/greek institutions... And they are just black faces pushing a european doctrine. Tell me if i better clarified my point

[@KiRetteCouture]

Thank you. I think Athanasius etc just happened to be in a sociopolitical reality influenced by Rome and Greece because they were empires. It still doesn't take away from the essence of what they were teaching. Remember that christians were heavily persecuted by these powers. Ethiopia developed its Christian belief through their connection to their Jewish heritage but the message is essentially the same. That's what matters, the message of an all powerful God who sends His son to save ALL humanity. It may be taught through different cultural lenses (because people receive messages differently) but it's still the same universal message. PS Augustine, at least, was aware of Paganism in Rome and probably what he saw locally and consciously rejected these things. It makes sense that he wasn't going to use it as a point of reference. I'm also aware that Mark the gospel writer taught in Africa. With all the trade and travel at that time, it is not unthinkable that these early Christians were directly influenced by Jesus' followers who were always beyond the Jewish community, if you read the scriptures keenly.

[@denisehitchens1418]

The apostle did not africa

[@ShowCat1]

LOSE THE MUSIC!!!! Very distracting from your message! no sub

[@moenibus]

More people needs to see this, so you can get exposed and ridiculed

[@thekingofsomewhere]

Ok buddy, lol.

[@jaylenp9229]

Krst

[@willys2747]

No blacks in the list?

[@autumxxleaves4186]

Check out St. Moses the black

[@thomism1016]

Willy S The exact ethnic make up of some these apostolic fathers' isn't entirely certain. Some may have in fact been black.

[@trueblueclue]

Not a surprise if there were any. At least in the east the Egyptians had been in contact with the Sudan and Ethiopia for centuries before (via the Nile). Somalia also had major trade ports used by the Roman Empire for far east trade. It shouldn't be a surprise if the church had some intellectuals from the Sub Sahara. I'm not sure about the West of Africa but the Kingdom of Mali certainly traded with Berber Arabs in the high middle ages and picked up Islam from them as well. It wouldn't be a surprise if there was some Christian presence in that region early on.

[@andrewokutu2189]

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