7 Beginner Riffs To Master Math Rock

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Start learning Math Rock today with my Math Rock Essentials eBook: A Guitarist's Guide To Learning Math Rock 👉bit.ly/4eV2Elp

[@legaldrumprogrammer1685]

the amfootball riff never gets old.

[@assonance9057]

CPGZDNCND reminds me of erica

[@xvaughanx]

Check out skatune network on KZbin he does an awesome version of Never Meant

[@HeyyItsDaleVODS]

Honestly?

[@sparkkoo0]

@@xvaughanx when you search up never meant on youtube ska comes up, yeah

[@polinttalu7102]

It was Never Meant to be old

[@ianprescott7924]

This is a tough genre if these are classified as beginner 😂

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Yeah... there are some easier ones out there but most of these are well known^^

[@JPsk8core]

try any other Tiny Moving Parts song and you'll see how Medicine is for the beginners HAHA

[@mcbill7352]

It is very complicated

[@amirehunter8708]

I’m still in this bitch tho

[@user-qk1xt3yb7i]

In my opinion, it's not hard it just uses unconventional techniques that are less common for beginners in guitar.

[@lancelotxiii9089]

Never meant is seriously the most beautiful thing I've ever heard

[@mcbill7352]

Mastered Never Meant today. Probably my favourite riff of all time

[@theskeptic7713]

Me too. I just started learning Math Rock a few days ago, Never Meant was the easiest to learn.

[@Mellon-Collie]

Now play chon

[@speedyboi349]

Im too lazy to tune this thing Did learn medicine

[@lazylasagna5596]

@@speedyboi349 use standard tuning and put your capo on 5th fret then play the riff using the D, G, and B strings

[@lanasharawy2360]

@@speedyboi349what tuning is the first riff

[@ThinkImBasedGod]

That mountains riff is like the first thing on this channel I have been able to play properly, thanks man!

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Awesome! Lovely to know. Here's the spotify link if anyone is interested: open.spotify.com/album/40YDxR2agQg5XKds5E6Ryt?nd=1

[@No1WillMakeItOutAlive]

TYBG

[@scronch_]

MADVILLAIN MADVILLAIN

[@micahflips1928]

Madvillainry is really good! But what’s up with your cringe username?

[@LamonariWillMakeIt]

@@micahflips1928 based god? you gotta check out Lil B (known as Based God) and Clams Casino in the Lil B world being based means being real to yourself and positive

[@user-ml8pd5zt3m]

Thank you for adding the music sheets so I can play it in the piano

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching

[@AirinTV]

I find it a lot easier to follow since guitar wasn't my first instrument. Makes it more easier to imagine how it's supposed to sound and be played. ^ ^

[@fq5296]

all this riffs made me feel melancholic about something that doesn’t even exist

[@ander6070]

That's math rock in a nutshell

[@jds5150]

Word you’re looking for is saudade

[@davidbaird2211]

That’s pretty much the idea

[@yanahmei]

true

[@madibis8144]

yeah like,,, im nostalgic for a good feeling i never had

[@DankDynamite]

Ive been practicing math rock for the last few months..... Why am I just now finding this channel after ive already brute forced my way into learning a bunch of CHON songs

[@ppextendus6666]

always focused by tiny moving parts also very easy one with tapping

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Nice. Great suggestion, though I recall having some trouble with that one when I first learnt it! Haha

[@plsno420]

It's easy-ish if you're not new to the playing style but it's really fun tbh

[@colesmith3714]

@@plsno420 I agree that if you have a bit of a grasp on tapping then it's pretty easy to learn

[@Howard2k3k]

LET’S JUST FORGEEEET

[@No1WillMakeItOutAlive]

September 9th, 2001

[@manuelcalderonmusic]

Asparagus what do you know that we don’t? That’s 2 days beforehand

[@No1WillMakeItOutAlive]

Manuel Calderon Gary and i

[@no1lieksu]

were skating on top of a hill

[@sauerkraut6571]

overlooking a valley.

[@sabichaokujo3307]

These help so much!! I’m just getting stared with math rock and I’ve only been playing normal guitar for a year and a half but luckily I’m a especially quick learner. These have made me appreciate math rock much more and practicing these for about 15-20 minutes each song has made me improve in not just math rock and Midwest emo but my regular guitar playing as well! FCPREMIX is my favorite as it had the most difficulty to master but I used the energy of tryhard sweating to fuel my strength and somehow learned it!!

[@twsg_noise]

the tera melos trash generator made me feel like i was about to encountered a wild zubat

[@jackbard2623]

it's not math rock if it's not *telecaster*

[@dinosaurojunior]

god damn yes

[@MnemonicHeadTrip]

I’m too poor for that

[@andross6698]

I only have a mustang :(

[@zerronyx1362]

@@andross6698 tone should be good as well since mustangs are single coils also mustangs are sexier than teles, change my mind

[@zeroarcwolf7426]

@@zerronyx1362 Dylan from TMP uses a Thinline with two humbuckers and honestly... it sounds awesome!

[@f.f5771]

Someone likes telecastors

[@AB-vn2jc]

Teles are the superior guitar

[@kidsoma7285]

Vector OH YEAH - yea not a big fan of telecasters. But Tecastors, I really dig

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

I didn't even notice that...

[@ryanbutler9964]

Tele is required for math rock.

[@juanvazquez5836]

@@ryanbutler9964 any guitar is required for math rock, I've heard great songs made with 8 stringed guitars lol

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Songs: 1: Medicine - Tiny Moving Parts kzbin.info/www/bejne/imqlgnWPrNufoKM 2: Trash Generator - Tera Melos kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5-VZX2Xd9WZjNE 3: Never Meant - American Football kzbin.info/www/bejne/lX_Jn4uajdWdgpI 4: Fire Back About... - Don Caballero kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJOqi62GetuFhcU 5: FCPREMIX - The Fall of Troy kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJrMm6CgatN1bKs 6: Mountains - Restarts open.spotify.com/album/40YDxR2agQg5XKds5E6Ryt mountainssk.bandcamp.com/track/restarts-2 7: Camp Adventure - Delta Sleep kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpSnhpeprsueqc0 Outro Music: mountainssk.bandcamp.com/track/future-2

[@Gabe-jd5pi]

Maybe the intro part to Fluffy by CHON??

[@heidiluong630]

Gabe theres a yt tutorial up on that !!

[@alex1Sded]

Hmmm Mountains, sounds like I’ve heard them before... maybe like you’ve promoted them before... because it’s your band... Jkjk all in good fun, great album nevertheless (bought it in fact!)

[@tonywhitburn]

Hey, man, another great beginner math rock riff could be Breadcrumb Trail by Slint! Also, props to you for incluiding The Fall of Troy.

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Yes! I love that album. I was thinking of redoing this video as some of them are a little too challenging for a beginner I think.

[@adoni5848]

bro tuning my guitar to facgce was the scariest thing i have ever done

[@mikamanning2263]

Same

[@nate7817]

tim from TTNG tunes his guitar's G string to a B

[@urlocalghost]

I’m late but sameee Especially tuning the B to a C

[@TheGuerreros3]

That third guitar was beautiful. The colored strings were a nice touch.

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

They look nice but feel awful. Haha

[@Regent192]

@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock did you use them for rocksmith?

[@micahflips1928]

I hate colored strings. they don’t sound as good as regular nylon, the color often wares off, they feel bad, quality is usually sub-par and in my opinion they don’t really look good because they don’t stand out enough.

[@ragecody]

Crocodile from TTNG isn't too bad to play either! Same tuning as Never Meant

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Great suggestion.

[@cooperringwood4346]

I’ve always felt there’s more I need to do to express my playing and math rock has got my attention Thank you

[@LillianAredhel]

FCP, Fire back and never meant are so fun to play

[@grantprice4456]

If that lick from American Football doesn’t bring you back to high school I feel bad for you.

[@scronch_]

Im in high school and listen to americ........anfootball a lot oh fuck oh fuck

[@holepunch1829]

the scronch oh GOD oh FUCK

[@mcbill7352]

@@scronch_ same

[@skeletonkiss1112]

I'm in high school rn so.

[@gimmegamma4849]

the scronch ayee me too pal

[@chaseurias8874]

I see the Marine layer reverb! Love it

[@oscarmeza2563]

Hello Steve Would you consider doing some cap n jazz covers or tutorials?

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

I may do so.

[@andresyamkovoy9651]

awesome video for beginners. Appreciate you giving exposure to math rock

[@stankcooter]

ur channel has made me realize how bad i want a telecaster they sound so good

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Try some out. I really like mine but I played a few that I didn't click with. This is an American Special Telecaster from 2017.

[@therampanthamster]

love the coloured strings you've got there! Never seen those before. Thanks for the vid :)

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Thanks! I thought they'd stand out, but they don't feel all that nice to play! Haha. They are by DR strings.

[@Regent192]

@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock did you use them for rocksmith??

[@albertgutnick6979]

Amazing as always! Check out a now defunct band from Australia named Staying at Home, brilliant math rock from down under

[@vocal01d]

i just wanted to say thank you so much for making these videos so easy to follow! i don’t know anything about guitars but almost nailing the american football riff is really encouraging for me and i can’t wait to play the other songs you featured in the video!!

[@MelancholyMegan]

'Dakota' by Tiny Moving Parts is a great beginner's math rock song!

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Good suggestion!

[@armfourteen]

Great lesson as usual man and Shoutouts to DR strings

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

You know it! Thanks.

[@fromthistexasbreath]

Protip: that Tera Melos lick is even easier to play with hybrid picking, which is always a great technique to incorporate into your playing anyway. ;)

[@plsno420]

If you don't play with just your fingers in math rock you should definitely figure out hybrid picking

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Yup. I would usually play it hybrid picked. Love that technique. However, because this video is aimed at those less adept at guitar I thought I'd keep it all pick.

[@bebbyderp8268]

Never expected to Fall Of Troy on this tbh, gotta have to try and play it finally whew

[@Cherryxskramz]

Camp adventure is a fun song to learn, love it

[@eldelarechorga]

There´s a tiny error in the fall of troy riff. The last note is harmonic on 7 fret but tablature says 5. Great content, btw!! Thank you for taking the time to make this tutorials.

[@mono.isgtds]

Itchika nito has a pretty simple tutorial on his channel on how to play I miss you.

[@sixmonthssleep3057]

Fancy lighting and acoustic padding, our boy is legit! Nice video Steve!

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

The lighting makes all the difference! Wish I had invested in some better lighting a long time ago, and it wasn't expensive...

[@TheAlaskanBullW02]

THANK YOU FOR USING NOTATION

[@Svensky]

Tiny moving parts is awesome band i love to play Medicine

[@mountainbumgaming9883]

I’m a simple man, I see delta sleep, I click

[@opheeeeeelia]

late but, same man

[@forbiddensun9524]

Yup

[@parker5855]

Little disappointed he didn’t use an SG for FCPREMIX

[@Faulheit]

fun fact he had one but he sold it to buy that telly lmao

[@DilutedFaith]

i'm more disappointed that he left out several notes

[@OODZUTSU]

The harmonics in FCPREMIX say 5 but you play at 7!! Just something that threw me off when trying to follow you.. thanks for putting this together and fun riffs to learn!!

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Sorry! They should be at 5 I do believe.

[@yzworld8063]

You killed the fall of Troy riff man gave me shivers

[@brandonwalker7806]

You are great. Thank you for your help!

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

You're welcome! thanks for watching

[@ig_hashiholic]

Another great song you could’ve mentioned is off the twin galaxies album called 21 letters that’s a great math rock riff in the beginning

[@mrqz3146]

The first one and the fifth one are such a great deal. Took me one hour and a half to make that TMP riff sound acceptable. I think I'm gonna get your book for this christmas. I don't have too many resources but I think that someday I'll finally make it at Math Rock :D

[@xintlzer3354]

Thanks for the video, I'm starting to get the tapping in a easier way than with other tutorial videos, I'm very grateful :'3

[@dabe1285]

Oh wow that Restarts riff sounds just like Dave Davidson's second riff in Maps & Atlases - "Everyplace Is A House"

[@influentialdetour]

simple does not equate to bad i’ve had to realize that recently in my playing, for example one of my favorite bands Turnover is very simple in their playing but it’s so effective

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

For sure. Just becuase something is more complex doesn't mean or equate to being better. It's good to remember music isn't a competition.

[@mang9432]

Hey, I really liked this! Thanks! One thing i'd love to see is maybe a more in depth breakdown of these or some other well known riffs in terms of the harmonic structure.

[@mikethadeeter]

Absinthe party at the fly honey warehouse is good one for beginners to math rock.

[@eloytekila]

Amazing video, thanks to present us so many bands

[@NickyWaters]

math rock is intricate, yet tasteful

[@jibutwholesome5366]

Chon - Puddle, Dust Tricot (riffs are actually easy to play) The Fall Of Troy - Sledgehammer (and spartacus) Have a nice day! : )

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Thank you¬

[@Varsonin]

@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock Tricot - Pool or E. Jammier rock songs but still got some stuff going on that's interesting.

[@faysalelestwani1893]

bro ur soo cool thx for the tabs!

[@tommyfeagle689]

Another great video! Thanks Steve!

[@indigotheindieghost7214]

My first math rock song that I learnt was Maps And Atlases' Everyplace Is A House

[@stellar022]

Great video, makes me want a tele now haha.

[@bugmachine777]

awesome video, i'm just having trouble understanding why you own three separate telecasters.

[@jaydurmac]

Is it possible to learn Math rock with fingerstyle? Or should I start with picking? I feel a lot more comfy using my fingers... thanks in advance!!

[@lucaserojas]

Could you do I Think We're in Minsk by Snowing?

[@reereecording6903]

I want a fender like that!!!

[@Howdypartner69420]

There’s a triplet in FCPREMIX that you miss. I know this is an older video but so many people don’t play that small part.

[@BubbleManxx]

Steve, new subscriber, just wanted to say I think the opening to Eyesore by Women also isn't too bad. They were more post-punk than true math rock, but they have a couple of mathy tunes.

[@DjVolumeUp200]

Is there a specific way of picking the F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X. riff? Because I play it mostly using economy picking which results in almost a sweep-like motion and is much different than the picking used in the video and I'd also say that it sounds more like the original version.

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

You know, I've not tried it that way. I'll give it ago. I usually use regular alternating picking. I think you could use hybrid picking too 👍

[@sunarlm1904]

*Riffs starts at **1:31*

[@two_string78]

I'm learning a lot from you. Thank you!

[@synthbass9788]

You should really include the band Signals. in your videos, their riffs and harmony are really hidden gems

[@fedboy21]

Its like polyphia notes...great im gonna practice it...thnx

[@kakikukeju1]

Review about murphy radio, it’s awesome mathrock band too

[@ezcomeezgo9215]

Aaaaaand here I go. Subscribed

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Thank you, and good luck!

[@ezcomeezgo9215]

@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock Ohhhhh thats really cool. fcpremix sounds way harder than it actually is. Id have never thought that. Its so much fun playing if you adjust the speed of your delay according to your own speed. THANKS!!!!

[@GrizzlyDave85]

I’d love to learn Incandescent! Great vid as always buddy :)

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Hey Dave! Hope you're well. I debated about putting it in but I think it may be quite challenging, so I went with restarts instead.

[@anuvette]

thanks man you're amazing

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

You're welcome!

[@JE41bflo]

Love this. You should check out sleepy dog if u haven’t. U could Play some of his songs like space cadet or something else but he does a lot of great work.

[@xoxo-pp7ru]

Hes made a video about him

[@matiassapiain9658]

Thanks bro

[@samlynch8760]

Ay this is great! Thanks so much! Great job with the annotations too they were very helpful!

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks, Sam.

[@Cazametroides]

Thanks a lot man! This is a great selection! I love the KC-like quality of Tera Melos's riffs, fripp would be proud

[@tedstriker1]

What's the song that plays out the video? It's great

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Thanks! It's the first track on this album: mountainssk.bandcamp.com/album/tenses

[@chromaticswing9199]

Hey Steve, great video! Do you have any tips for beginners playing bass? I love the style and technique of math rock, especially the tapping, but I sometimes feel limited with just 4 strings.

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Not really got any tips, but I did make a video with a friend about bass in math rock: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4Szf2WBpMtgmNk

[@jamescross8918]

Great video

[@JohnnySideburnsX]

Good news! Can you do an American Football cover or maybe The Get Up Kids?

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

I love the get up kids. I did a video ages ago about chords in emo and I mention them quite a bit as one of my main influences. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jorMmX2co5yBoNE

[@lopsided4623]

Yo I'm pretty sure I recognize FCP from those really old flash stickman guitar hero games

[@darkmoonrising400]

you might not see this but on the Fall of Troy song, why do you move your left hand fingers instead of keeping them in the same (or similar) chord shapes as you move around the neck? isn't that more efficient?

[@r666y]

What is the song at the end of the video? Very useful

[@plsno420]

Camp Adventure by Delta Sleep

[@stankcooter]

bless ur soul

[@Josh-qb9co]

Are all of them in standard tuning? Expect Nevermeant

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Medicine is on drop D but you don't use that string in the riff 👍

[@lmh6339]

Anyone that learns Never Meant as their first riff will be far too powerful.

[@SPKB77]

What’s the tuning for “medicine”

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Drop D and a capo on the 6th. Don't forget to retune your guitar after placing a capo on. 😁

[@SPKB77]

@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock wait drop tune first with capo or capo than tune

[@saucegodd5714]

@@SPKB77 he just means to check if your guitar is in tune, intonation is almost never perfect so your guitar probably will be sharp or flat with the capo on

[@AbsoluteAbsurd]

How would you class TTNG? Difficult?

[@guitarofdestiny]

6:00👍

[@enlightenedapple]

These are some cool songs. Glad I checked this out.

[@BURNANNATOR]

Part 2 please!?

[@abs-nt1ue]

What is the pitch of each of them? I always feel like it sounds weird when I practice Camp Adventure, but I confirm that my fingering corresponds to the pentatonic scale. I'm using FACGCE tuning.

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Hello! Camp adventure is in a different tuning (Can't remember of the top of my head). I teach it in standard here just for the sake of ease.

[@smoshbooz]

The second one sounds like the music from Mt Moon in Pokemon lmao

[@sn0wi0m64]

Could you add the key of the song in the tabs and talk more about the progressions when you give examples of riffs. It be really useful!!.

[@Imadumbdoodoohead]

Math rock and hardcore drummer and a ska trumpeter. That decided he wanted to learn to be a cool guy and play guitar. Thanks immensely for this stuff! Keep it up!

[@LamonariWillMakeIt]

great vid