7 Boss Fights Against YOU, From the Last Game

[@ktoon4725]

I’m surprised Pokémon Gold and Silver’s boss against Red (the protagonist of the Gen 1 games) was left off on this list, that’s probably the most prime example of this concept that comes to mind

[@NebulaDark]

Exactly!!!

[@Desmond9100]

I thought the prime example was Kain and the Soul Reaver games

[@darielemiliosevillabueso4558]

She even mentioned gary oak so I thought for sure Red would be here

[@joshingyou8470]

Pretty sure it's precisely because it's such low hanging fruit is why it wasn't mentioned

[@MykindofDemon]

Maybe they’re saving that one for the commenter edition

[@maxmazza2987]

Remember doing the Dark Side route in Jedi Academy. As soon as I realized who the final boss was, I was like "I'm pretty badass, but I'm not *Kyle motherfucking KATARN* badass," and proceeded to get wrecked lol.

[@thatguy3669]

Imo it's the harder boss fight and Markah Ragnos(If I spelled that right) was easy compared

[@esbmysterious]

Interestingly they used footage from Jedi Knight Mysteries of the Sith, and in that one Kyle Katarn is always the final boss. You either spare him for the lightside ending where Kyle will renounce the Force (which is why he does not have it at the start of Jedi Knight 2) or kill him which leads your character (Mara Jade) to fall to the darkside as well.

[@empath69]

@@esbmysterious Yeah, I was surprised they skipped over Mysteries of the Sith in favour of Jedi Academy, since as you say, the protagonist ALWAYS has to fight Kyle (who has fallen to the dark side) in MotS, instead of maybe facing off against him based on a choice in JA. You might be mistaken about the ending of Mysteries of the Sith, tho - Kyle is so utter badass that you just can't beat him, and you only manage to resolve things by pushing him to the right point with persuasive arguments about his past and his good side, that when you PUT DOWN YOUR LIGHTSABER, he is conflicted enough that he can't bring himself to kill you and manages to break free of the sith temple's influence (pick the wrong moment, and you just become a crispy critter, and Kyle goes shopping at Hugo Boss).

[@Its.Darth.Revan_Yall]

Nah I 5 shot kyle

[@hiddensquid183]

16:08 "these stances are a clear nod to some of the most popular techniques used by dark souls players themselves over the years." I don't remember Soul of Cinder stabbing me in the back over and over again

[@bellomori9944]

Or parrying all my attacks befor quick swapping to a dagger to mess up my day

[@whiteass4ssin118]

@@bellomori9944 he can parry you tho

[@Tastingo117]

Instead, the OST stabs you right in the heart after stage 1. Still getting goosebumps thinking about that.

[@OhNoTheFace]

Good players

[@dr.calibrations7984]

Or doing the "well what is it" and pulling out a Chaos Zweihander

[@Who_is_Ari]

I think (featuring) Dante (from the Devil May Cry series) deserves mention, both his fights from DMC4 and DMC5 Special Edition. Playing as Dante, you feel like a powerhouse, but fighting Dante? You finally understand exactly what you're putting your enemies through: hell.

[@DarkSlayer487]

Oh DMC5? You mean the game about Vergil hiring Vergil's brother and Vergil's son to defeat Vergil so that Vergil and Vergil can merge and become Vergil again? Featuring Vergil.

[@jaredcrabb]

​​@@DarkSlayer487 Thanks for the spoiler😂 Sounds like FF: Exvius. Everyone is Rain.

[@psychronia]

We were always the most dangerous thing in Dark Souls. The furtive pygmy, so easily forgotten. And yet, nobody can kill us. We go hollow if we lose the will to fight, but if we don't? If we keep challenging the areas and bosses no matter how many times they kill us? Our victory is inevitable, and we are the monster that may never stop.

[@TheInvincibleEmotion]

every from software plot ever

[@jaredcrabb]

If SoC was me from the past, I could sneeze him to death without sneezing. ​​@@TheInvincibleEmotion Hell, thats most games. Maybe not the fighting yourself part but the youre the most dangerous thing in the world part.

[@acoupleofschoes]

I always love the "Beware of Spoilers" right after you've said what the spoiler is in every game you're about to list.

[@D3th10rd]

Said and/or shown

[@redfinale]

Never been a fan of the "beware of spoilers for the following...." bit because it kinda spoils half the list if you're aware enough of the listed games. Just a general "Beware of spoilers for whatever we show" is enough

[@spicybeantofu]

It's the formula so shut up lol

[@pacifistminigun3987]

@@redfinale yea sometimes it kinda defeat its own point lol, tho it works sometimes

[@Kat-mv5dy]

For some videos, like the acronym one it makes sense because all you know is that there are acronyms, not the spoilers the acronyms are about

[@minomininni]

The moment you face Red in "Pokémon Gold/Silver" should most definitely be on the list! Toughest fight in the entire game.

[@sm0ky12]

And that music was fire

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Good one!

[@leejohnshen6051]

I'm surprised they didn't cover Prototype 2's final boss

[@CristataArt]

I know right? That was my first thought!

[@PanzerSoul]

... ...

[@calebevans7408]

I never thought fighting the soul of cinder was fighting the previous chosen undead from ds1, but I have goosebumps all over again now. Such an amazing series.

[@arent4771]

What they don't mention is that the Soul of Cinder is an amalgamation of Gwyn and all the other lost souls absorbed by the first flame. The Soul of Cinder fights like it does because it is a thousand people in one cursed body. The music also gives this away, as you can hear a bit of Gwyn's theme in the Soul of Cinder's music theme.

[@legionarybooks13]

@@arent4771I was pissed when I first beat DS1 (which is still my favourite of the entire Soulsbourne universe). I knew nothing about the lore going in, spent 60+ hours to get through it all, only to receive a five-second cutscene of my character self-immolating for my efforts. I later learned of the alternate ending, which is actually pretty damn awesome. So yeah, all subsequent playthroughs I usher in the Age of Dark / Man, because f*** Lord Gwyn and the supposed "gods", who are all selfish dicks ... okay, Gwynevere is alright, but it's not really her that you see in Anor Londo.

[@titan1umtitan]

@@arent4771 but they did mention that...

[@astralguardian5930]

I mean Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal introduced probably one of the earliest "Protagonist from another game" boss fights, with Red. And just like a lot of those types of boss fights he can be horribly hard if you fight him without the proper levels/skill (and considering the challenge of leveling your team in Johto overall that makes him even more insane)

[@willfieldsend]

I came here to comment the same thing. It was such a good move. I never saw it coming, I thought it would be Elite Four, rival, then home for tea. But noooo, here’s basically a whole other game, and a fight against the legend that is Red to finish it.

[@astralguardian5930]

@@willfieldsend Don't worry, I realized I wasn't the only one who commented about Red. But I decided to tell of the difficulty as well, rather then just the recommendation

[@melskunk]

Yeah, the fact red is in the high 80s, a full 30 levels over every other gym battle you face and 20 over his rival's strongest Pokemon, knocked me on my ass when I first played the game. But it also reflected how overpowered my own team was by the end of the original game...

[@brokenursa9986]

Red's incredible strength made it all the more impressive that I took out half his team, including his Pikachu, with a Toxic-stalling level 44 Umbreon during my playthrough of Crystal. The rest of my team was 20 levels down on him, and I have no idea how I won.

[@boredlazy1676]

You can also fight Red again in Sun and Moon at the Battle Tree.

[@gideonwaithbraite]

I'm surprised Prototype 2 isn't on here. Not only do you fight Alex Mercer, the character in the first game, but he's the whole reason how you got your abilities in the second.

[@WillFly4Food23]

Not to mention what a great character Alex was the entire time, your humanity wack, your morals wack, bitch you a virus we don't got no morals.

[@yami-131]

same, literally from the title I was expecting it. also depending how you interpret it he becomes a part of you as well... presumably for prototype 3.... like that will ever happen :D

[@MrGrimm73]

You both said it...😊

[@RomaInvicta8]

Came here to comment this

[@Micd521]

EXACTLY

[@Matt620]

The Hero's Shade is hinted being the Hero of Time even without the Hyrule Historia. When you meet him for the first time as the wolf, he howls the Song of Healing to you. A song the Hero of Time uses.

[@Deadflower20xx]

Actually I believe all the Wolf songs are from OOT or Majora's Mask (or their own unique song), furthering the connection. I always like bringing up the Hero's Shade whenever people stupidly say "The Zelda devs never thought of the timeline before the fans made it up!", uh, nope. Wind Waker and Twilight Princess especially drive home that there are multiple timelines and there's a sequence of events to it all.

[@ExileTwilight]

@@Deadflower20xx I would certainly agree there is some continuity to the series, but apart from specific examples (like you mentioned) it's kept very loose (which I don't mind, personally)

[@Deadflower20xx]

@@ExileTwilight I dunno, the 3D Zeldas are totally tied together, specifically to Ocarina of Time but obviously Skyward Sword was made thoughtfully with the timeline in mind as it being "the first Link adventure" was a big selling point for it. Wind Waker is filled to the brim with OOT references as well as Twilight Princess. The events in those games are direct repercussions of the events of OOT and is why Ganondorf appears in humanoid form in both. They're obviously not direct sequels, but you can at least see Hyrule has had a history far beyond the game's events, and that Ocarina (and later Skyward) tie to it.

[@Jesusluvz]

@@Deadflower20xx nah.

[@collinties1237]

Uui

[@barstokians365]

Should have mentioned that in Jedi Academy, the light side ending has Tavion actually resurrecting the ancient Sith Lord (Marka Ragnos, for those curious). And fighting Kyle is still many times over the harder path.

[@embrikchloraker8186]

The dark side isn't stronger, after all, but quicker, easier, more seductive.

[@22potter5]

The most memorable one for me is Diablo. The game literally ends with your protagonist becoming the new Lord of Terror. In Diablo 2, you're following the trail of carnage to track down and kill your old character.

[@goofyfurball7311]

This is the one I was expecting. Especially with the remake coming out.

[@wrydrune]

Canonically it was the warrior from the first game though. I might be misremembering, but I don't think there was even a import option.

[@mattj1829]

@@wrydrune Yeah but the other heroes you kill along the way, the rogue is the dead Rogue boss you fight and the others are in there too I think

[@rmcgowa1987]

@@wrydrune yes Aiden is the warrior from diablo who is one of king leoric's sons

[@marcobering3945]

@@mattj1829 Blood Raven is the D1 rogue, the Summoner is the Mage, and Aiden's(the Warrior) body is taken over by Diablo.

[@ToySoldierRazor]

In Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner you can optionally fight the Demi-Fiend: protagonist character of Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne, a famously powerful protagonist in the series. So powerful, in fact, that for his boss fight, it plays the normal random encounter battle theme from Nocturne, because to him, that's all you are.

[@aqgpandemic5406]

And that fight is so so absurdly hard, with maxed out stats it still takes over half an hour and Demi-Fiend can still just instantly kill the entire party in a single turn.

[@AntiBellum]

That’s sick

[@ddjsoyenby]

yes!

[@unimaginativexhandle]

I can feel the frustration and dread rising at just the memory of this

[@Chernobog2]

Also from MegaTen, in Soul Hackers you can fight the protagonist of the original Devil Summoner, and in the 3DS version Raidou from the PS2 Devil Summoner games (as well as his alternate universe counterpart Raido). There's also Persona 5 Royal with its DLC where you can fight the protagonists of Persona 3 and 4

[@ClonedGamer001]

I still can't believe the Kingdom Hearts series actually exists and isn't some insane drug trip

[@fabianlaibin6956]

It might just be the greatest drug trip ever.

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

I can. I just can’t believe they started it as PS2 exclusive when the GameCube was still selling att

[@tylermac111]

Thats a great way to tell everyone youve never done a single drug

[@ClonedGamer001]

@@tylermac111 The only drugs I do are prescribed by my doctor 😎

[@MalcontentFlower]

Honest to god, I do a double take every time I hear the name.

[@FallenRigel]

Splatoon 2 had one of these as well! In the octo expansion, agent 3 (who you played as in the original game’s hero mode) is constantly alluded to, but it’s not until the end of the dlc that we actually see them. After saving you from being turned into a smoothie, agent 3 appears covered in the slime you were to be turned into and acts as the final stretch before you’re allowed to take over the world. They have almost no limit on special attacks and bombs, meaning that once you finally defeat them, this formidable foe has passed out again before they can help you save the world. You may then fight them again inside your own mind later on for the golden toothpick, but this time they have no limits at all save for the fact that they are not immune to being shot.

[@megakirby2131]

EXACTLY

[@Mr1nkling]

at least im not the only one who thought agent 3 would be here

[@deeya]

Prototype 2 - it's like having all the hours I put into upgrading Alex shoved back into my face... after I had spent many additional hours upgrading this new guy that I'm supposed to use to defeat him.

[@kacciocciacciara]

And you don't have his single target ultimate either

[@TheTerminator2298]

I was hoping that Alex Mercer would be on this list. Hands down the coolest protagonist gone rougue

[@FoggyPigeon]

Agreed. The endless carnage I created with Alex left me terrified at the idea of fighting him in the second one. Always hoped there would be a third game where Alex's consciousness was too strong to destroy and so Alex and Heller were fighting for control of their body after Heller consumes him at the end of 2. It could give you a sort of morality route to choose. Worry more about collateral damage as Heller or just murder everything in sight as a vengeful Alex. Obviously everyone would choose Alex but still could've been an interesting story.

[@ABadassDragon]

"Welcome to the top of the food chain"

[@HeapOfBones]

Yeah, should've included Alex instead of Soul of Cinder since that one's a bit of a stretch (for a multitude of reasons, e.g. linking the fire being optional) and not exactly the same as a playable character anyway.

[@ArkaneStephanie]

In one of the Shadow of War dlcs, you end up fighting Talion from after the events of the game. Where he gives in to the ring and becomes a Nazgul. It also taught me how annoying it was for my enemies when I backflipped away from them every few seconds to throw a dagger at them.

[@bethenhiemer]

"This is no place for a horse" really does give the feel of a house-hunting Death (and their ripped horse) ready to move away from the rabble.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Something about that made me think of Don't Stop Believing by Journey, lol. Except the lyrics regarding smalltown living were for a girl, I believe. But maybe he's a city boy who took the midnight train going anywhere...such as to a ranch 😅

[@jaredcrabb]

Nah, land hunting. Hell build his house later. Or probably just magick one into existence.

[@denmark_2172]

15:23 watching Luke interact with the camera as an actual person and having them ready to leave by explaining just a small bit of DS lore was one of the funniest bits I’ve seen on the channel in a while. Top tier comedy for me!

[@kirielvids]

"I can't let you do this Jaden" "Then stop me *Kyle* !" Missed opportunity.

[@Acorn_Anomaly]

I love the fact that in the ending where you fight him, your victory condition isn't to kill Kyle Katarn - it's to distract him long enough to run away.

[@jaredcrabb]

Sounds like we need more bosses like that. Kill bosses only gets boring after a while. Running from, or dying to, invincible bosses is boring period. Id like to have a boss fight where theres more than just fighting (I havent played any where you do more than kill, run, or die to bosses, and I dont like the Star Wars games, just the movies).

[@Acorn_Anomaly]

@@jaredcrabb Sadly, it's not something that carries over to gameplay. You do still have to defeat him in combat, like a normal boss. The end result is just that, Kyle doesn't die - your character is able to throw him off balance enough to bury him under some rubble, and then run away.

[@jaredcrabb]

@@Acorn_Anomaly So its a normal boss fight that just has a didnt beat cutscene after you win?

[@Acorn_Anomaly]

@@jaredcrabb Yup. It's a hilarious moment, especially considering how the fanbase liked to memetically hype Kyle up as an unstoppable badass, but the actual, mechanical fight is just a typical fight. (Although a very fun one, many people go Dark Side to fight Kyle simply because it's more fun than the Light Side final boss). The whole running away thing happens in the cutscene afterwards.

[@jaredcrabb]

@@Acorn_Anomaly At least he isnt one of those you godstomp without damage and in the cutscene theyre all like "Is that all you got? Pathetic." I can only ever think "Bullshit, I DESTROYED your ass," about it.

[@TheOneMiffy92]

You wanna feel real sad? Okay, get ready for this conjecture: The Link from OoT is explicitly stated as being "in search of a friend" in Majoras Mask (its canonical sequel). While we don't find Navi in Termina, we do find another temporary fairy companion, Tatl. It's entirely likely at the end of that game, that Link leaves Termina and heads back to Hyrule. It's also entirely likely that Link goes to the Kokiri Forest and heads to the Lost Woods to find Navi, but gets lost. A Kokiri girl you meet in the adult line explains that anyone who doesn't have a fairy becomes a Stalfos if they're lost. OoT Link is confirmed to be a Hylian by birth, not a Kokiri. As such, the only thing that's keeping him from being lost in the forest is his fairy companion, Navi. It's my theory that Link went back to the Lost Woods at some point in his Adult life, and stayed too long looking for Navi - becoming a Stalfos knight in the process. That's why he's in Twilight Princess as a rotting, rusting skeletal form - filled with regret.

[@ZK-sv4vz]

Thank God someone more eloquent than me said it. I mean, after the events in MM and the lost woods thing seems like the most tragic part of his whole deal.

[@enomisv9830]

Well at least he gets to see future reincarnation him with companions and friends, and in my opinion, is on the verge of becoming a father figure/close mentor to the twilight princess link. At least that's the way i felt. I was always excited and happy to see the golden wolf.

[@hyp0cr1tical]

Maybe Majoras Mask IS OoT Links descent into becoming a Stalfos and it’s all in his head!!! Aaaaahhhh!!! No maybe not lmao, but what you’ve said has summed up what I believe happened in the best way

[@InfernoAssassin_Animations]

That’s dark bro

[@HedgieDaUmbrehog]

I can help make this a bit darker. Ive long since held the belief as to why Navi could no longer be found. Navi. Is Links mother, turned into a fairy. It was stated that she died escaping from the castle, bequeathing Link to the Great Deku Tree. Well, heres where my theory comes in. She was given new life as a fairy, so that when the time came for Link's destiny to come to pass, she could be by her son's side to help guide and help him through it all. To do the one thing she couldnt do as a mother: watch and guide her son to become the greatest hero of them all. That explains why, upon returning to the child timeline, Navi just kinda flies off to the sky and vanishes. Because, her mission done and her son now being the hero he was meant to be, her mission is completed and she could pass on. To help push this theory, there are a lot of times real world influence has crept into games like the LoZ series. Ghosts staying until theyre either exorcised ( the po sisters in the forest temple being the obvious example there, as well as Phantom Ganon ) or when they complete the thing keeping them bound to the world. Links mom being a fairy was her own gift, granted by the great Deku tree, so that she wouldnt become a ghost, and instead be the fairy for her own "fairy-less" son. Even in the manga ( yes, I know it isnt canon, still ) before she flies off, she states she loves Link dearly. As a kid, I thought it was a semi romantic thing, but if my theory proves true, it would be the love of a mother to her son. And thus, thats why Link was never able to find Navi. Because he was looking for his mother, who finally passed on because her one regret keeping her there was satisfied. This then ties into what @TheOneMiffy92 proposed. Navi not being there means no one to guide Link. But its more then just being a guide. What if the magic of the fairies acted as a barrier to stop the dark magic of the lost woods from turning Link in general? No Navi mom, no magical barrier, no guide to stop him being lost. Hero or not, he is, as stated, still a Hylian. The only reason he didnt submit to evil upon dying and becoming a Stalfos was the protection of the Triforce of Courage. Thats why he retained his sanity and was able to do things Stalfos cant, like becoming the white wolf and retaining all his knowledge from his adventures, including all the songs he learned, which is why summoning him takes on the form of songs from both those games. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

[@dustinhatfield8373]

I always assumed link turned into a stalfos searching in the lost woods for Navi, since it's confirmed in game that anyone without a fairy guide that enters the woods gets lost and becomes a stalfos

[@Wishphoenix1]

I thought the zelda timeline broke in OOT and Majora’s Mask was shat happened after link returned to his child form. Of course since MM also dealt with time travel no one in that game remembers him as a hero either.

[@dustinhatfield8373]

@@Wishphoenix1 you are correct in that assumption. Majora's mask is the direct sequel and it falls in the child timeline, the next game after Majora's mask in that timeline is Twilight Princess, where we see Hero of Time Link as a Stalfos mentoring Hero of Twilight Link

[@codewizard0]

"I played it, and i still dont know what the f**k is going on" is the most accurate way to describe the KH series

[@Firestar4041]

Meme of both: Peeps who haven't played KH: Sora "Whats going on?" Peeps who Have played KH: Roxas: "WHATS GOING ON!?!" here

[@EddieRiggsBF3]

It also perfectly fit Metal Gear series.

[@jaredcrabb]

For me also includes every fantasy From Software game Ive seen or played. The modern ones dont seem to even have much of a story. Im not a fan of lore, I prefer to have more story. Yes theyre different, lore is before the story, story is current.

[@EGRJ]

13:13 "She's been possessed by Xenahort." Who, frankly, seems to have much better fashion sense than whoever designed her regular outfit. The goth look works so much better.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Everyone dresses better when they've been 'Norted', lol.

[@ALeafOnTheWind42]

She wasn't even possessed by Xehanort. It was a fan theory from the trailers that proved to not be correct

[@jaredcrabb]

​@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Unless the armor changes your appearance (Fashion Dogma, Fashion Souls, Fashionborne, Fashion Ring, I dont remember other Fashion... off rhe top of my head). If it doesnt, then yeah, going evil always makes them look cooler. Of course, so far none of those hasnt had you as a boss yet (SoC isnt you from the previous games. Hed be so much easier if he was since hed always stagger and never get skills or heals off. Maybe hes someone else from DS 1 or 2).

[@awmperry]

You can’t fool us with the angstily brusque ending, whichever one of you is Oxtra editor for the day. We all know that’s Ellen’s “we’ll have to cut here because this is the furthest I got before breaking into giggles” face. :-D

[@tyrannicpuppy]

Don't worry. She'll be back in the sequel to make them pay for it with blood... and giggles.

[@Nulgar]

You can see the start of Luke breaking character and smiling/chuckling after saying "Sorry, are you not busy today?"

[@awmperry]

@@Nulgar Yup. Wish I had as much fun at work as they always seem to.

[@lizabee484]

Goodness but I love these silly people 😂

[@jaredcrabb]

​@@tyrannicpuppy Nah, just giggles. The overlord is the one who makes you pay in blood.

[@omegamig27]

In Armored Core For Answer, you have to fight against White Glint, who is the player character from Armored Core 4. In AC4, White Glint's pilot is the final boss of the game, but in a different mech. In ACFA, it's described that the pilot for White Glint took the name after the war from the previous game and is only known as 'Anatolia's Mercenary'. Depending on your mission selection, you'll either fight White Glint, or assist them in a mission about midway through the game.

[@ladiiellii]

I'm surprised Devil May Cry 4's second boss against Dante wasn't on here; I mean, IT'S DANTE! Even worse, on higher difficulties he uses the styles you spent all DMC 3 learning, meaning he can beat your arse in four different ways!

[@S0renz]

Not to mention the Dreadnaught ability for Royal Guard that renders him invincible for a few seconds. He's also kind of taken the kid gloves off for the second encounter as the first one was merely the tutorial.

[@aiminh1635]

Well technically you don’t fight with dante from dmc3 but , you know ... i do wish they mention it

[@S0renz]

Yes but those styles were not present until DMC 3. They've refined/added new things since then.

[@SirMandokarla]

Even better when you fight him in the Bloody Palace.

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

Well 5 has a more complete version of that fight reserved for Vergil mode. Sure Vergil has forever hijacked the doppelgänger and quicksilver mechanics but it doesn’t matter when you’re facing the part 5 specific powers of “Cool Uncle” Dante

[@fixedG]

"Listen, and understand. That [Dark Souls protagonist] is out there, it cant be bargained with, it cant be reasoned with, it doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop... EVER, until you are dead!" -Dark Souls enemies, probably

[@jimijenkins2548]

Imagine an enemy who you can easily crush. But it returns a minute later. It never seems to take breaks, never decides on something better to do. But worst of all, it learns. Every attack, it becomes better at fighting you. It can dodge your strikes, chip away at you. It gets a little bit stronger every attempt until it overwhelms you with a thousand cuts, before turning its attention to the next biggest thing. The protagonist is a terrifying force, indeed.

[@rickyroughton8098]

@@jimijenkins2548 That would be a fun adventure/horror game, where you need to find a way to make the AI "player" give up before it eventually corners you with adaptations to your play style and stat boosts from killing other things as it relentlessly hunts you.

[@jimijenkins2548]

@@rickyroughton8098 You took my idea and made it five times better. This is exactly what the internet is for.

[@jaredcrabb]

Nah, you can be bargained with. "Ill give you 50 more estus and make them instaheal and give a movement speed boost if you never come here again." ​​@jimijenkins2548 Or in some cases 30 minutes later cause its a vast distance and theres 5000000 enemies on the way so you have to crawl all the way there so you can save healing. But still, you never stop coming back, until, finally, theyre so exhausted your weak ass can beat them😂 ​​@@rickyroughton8098 That actually sounds like a really cool game, except one issue. Whats the point? The point for the player is to kill everything until nothing is left. But if youre fighting them, what do you do? Sit there until they come back over and over again?

[@DicedCoffee]

Little surprised Yakuza: Like a Dragon isn't here. That fight with Kiryu was terrifying considering how much butt he's kicked from all the Yakuza games combined.

[@bartoszkrawczyk5921]

I think the funniest part about that fight is that after you win the cutscene shows Ichiban and the gang all beat up and Kiryu is just standing there, like he barely worked up a sweat.

[@AresSG]

Because that was no fight. Ichiban and co got their asses handed to them. You don't beat Kazuma Kiryu, you survive Kazuma Kiryu.

[@limetime9045]

To be fair, it isn't the first time we had to fight Kiryu. Yakuza 4 did that first with Saejima's chapter. Gonna be honest, the wheeze of terror I made when I realized I was going to have to fight him was not the most manly noise in the world, but at least I lived.

[@skell6134]

@@AresSG You still fight him

[@AresSG]

@@skell6134 Try to fight him yes. Again you survive Kazuma Kiryu. To be honest I was surprised there wasn't an option to surrender.

[@Loretic42069]

Yeah just imagine how horrifying it is for the bosses in dark souls, fighting someone who can just keep coming back over and over, and especially horrifying for some of the final bosses because imagine how scared you would be hearing that a single small frail human killed every powerful being in your world and is coming for you next

[@jaredcrabb]

Grigori (Dragons Dogma) and Daimon (Dark Arisen, same game, DA is an expansion) should learn a thing or 2 from Modern Fromsoftware game final bosses. Grigori keeps calling you weak even though you killed something way stronger millions of times (probably, I didnt count). Daimon (the way stronger being) keeps asking something along the lines of are you ready to face the horror (no, there are no mirrors so I dont need to😂). Its been a while since Ive watched the cutscene. Also, Im pretty sure Im the one who should be asking that. In DS you arent really human though, youre an immortal Undead, and nobody else is (immortal at least). So yeah, scary.

[@paradiseregaind]

You missed Diablo 2, where you fight all of your characters from Diablo 1. Chasing after the Dark Wanderer, and then battling Diablo (who is in full possession of the Warrior from D1) is an iconic moment in gaming. In addition, you battle and defeat the Rogue (Blood Raven) and the Sorcerer (The Summoner).

[@misrossk]

You also fight Kyle Katarn in the Jedi Knight Expansion: Mysterious of the Sith. He falls to the Dark Side and is the final boss. It is also the reason he turned back away from being a Jedi in the sequel, Jedi Outcast, at least at the beginning. He literally cannot be defeated unless you turn your lightsaber off and refuse to fight him in the boss encounter, so you could literally fight him for hours without a victory. I'll never forget such a memorable encounter.

[@blakedegraw7958]

Such a good game. That boss battle took me hours to figure out.

[@4ncientGu150]

That sounds amazing.

[@TheInsanitor]

I feel Dragon's Dogma deserved a spot on this list. As your Character literally becomes the Final Boss for your NG+ upon completing the game.

[@mee091000]

....Holy shit I didn't know that

[@TheInsanitor]

@@mee091000 Its amazing, really shows that it is just one, long, endless cycle.

[@clothar23]

@@TheInsanitor A cycle that is ended by committing suicide no less.

[@richardgibson8403]

dogma balls haha

[@TheInsanitor]

@@clothar23 Well, not ended, but passed on :)

[@Gerilyn2003]

"If skewering Rosch is wrong, I don't want to be right." LOL!! I see what you did there, well said!

[@Palgrave]

I always assumed that OoT Link became some sort of Stalfos because he didn't have Navi anymore and might've never stopped wandering around the Lost Woods looking for her

[@user-id6po7lw2o]

"You were the most terrifying thing in the game all along" My three hundred death's (so far) and the fact I'm still unable to complete the effing game says otherwise.

[@IDontDoDrumCovers]

only 300? you must be at the opening area in DS1

[@jameswillis3042]

Time to pass along the words of wisdom many a player once passed to me in pvp... Git gud.

[@notusgodwind4512]

Lol its the fact that you died that much and still going that makes you terrifying

[@Lark88]

No matter how much they kill you, you keep coming back! How terrifying is that?

[@zendakon8299]

Actually it confirms it. Because unlike the endless enemies you come across, you can come back as many times as you like. And all it costs is your humanity.

[@Haiddon]

"sora falls out of a door in the sky" that's it, that's the entire plot of kingdom hearts

[@davidmcgill1000]

"As you do." would've fit as a response to that.

[@logandaley1544]

It’s Kingdom Hearts, you learn to roll with it.

[@liamnehren1054]

he's literally a greek god in a play lol, deos ex machina in all it's glory

[@FreqyBiker]

And don't forget about the .... Clears throat.... THE POWER (pause for dramatic effect) OF FRIENDSHIP

[@zenas19]

Ellen did say it best “I played it and I have no idea what the fuck is going on” I’ve said as much trying to explain it to friends

[@ojaskalra4863]

If there's ever a second part, you need to add Tallion from Middle Earth: Shadow of War, it's not exactly a previous game but the first boss fight in the Blade Of Galadriel DLC is the ringwraith Tallion who we played as in the main game

[@UnicornKnight2]

My favourite time that you fight a previous version of yourself is in Yakuza: Like a Dragon when you face off against Majima, Saijima and finally Kiryu

[@virikan3518]

I freaked out when I got to those moments, glad to see another Yakuza fan here :)

[@the_real_kel]

For me it's splatoon Octo expansion

[@theblueincineroar6905]

Frightening considering Kiryu is essentially a Combat God in the Yakuza univer

[@blackmage665]

@@theblueincineroar6905 and it holds up, since you don't even cause him real damage when the fight is done.

[@IcyLucario]

The "This is no place for a horse." joke is a lot funnier than it should be. That, and saying the entire title of Kingdom Hearts games each time.

[@Eightbit_Wizard]

If you play Dragon's Dogma offline 2 times in a row the last boss is literally you from the 1st run through.

[@jacobbelter9141]

Loved that concept and game and that's why I still play it on my switch today 😂 so underrated, one of the best rpgs out there

[@wanpokke]

@@jacobbelter9141 they're masterworks, all. You can't go wrong

[@wyrmsoubliette8254]

Tis weak to fire.

[@dr.calibrations7984]

Wolves hunt in packs!

[@fakename503]

I just posted that my dude. That game was pretty sweet, I liked it more than any Monster Hunter game. I think the non-existent fast travel killed that game. Running for a half an hour just for a fetch quest really kills the vibe.

[@TheBonkleFox]

Technically Kazuya from Tekken would count, in a weird way. He started out as the main protagonist, initially carrying out his journey of getting revenge on Heihachi before usurping the role of main villain and being one of the primary antagonists

[@General_Weebus]

Jin would also count. After being the protagonist for 3 games (and even getting his own full story mode in T5) he becomes the final boss in the T6 story mode.

[@jaredcrabb]

Canonically is the better word, but both work.

[@DarkLordGanondorf190]

One theory states that Link got so far into the Lost Woods looking for Navi he never returned and became a Stalfos. Because that's what happens to those who venture to deep into the forest.

[@DTfan43]

Now we can add another: three days ago Ubisoft confirmed a fan theory that the Jackal from Far Cry 2 (the dude causing that game's main conflict) is actually Jack Carver of Far Cry.

[@quinnmarchese6313]

not a far cry boss, but i heard an awesome theory the Longinus from 4 is also like a Far Cry 2 UFLL or ALF soldier or something

[@cond.oriano3264]

I hated Far Cry 2 but I loved Far Cry 3

[@kurtsudheim825]

What? I just guessed that, a wild statement to myself, never had any proof! Though you don't fight him per se

[@kurtsudheim825]

@@cond.oriano3264 those 2 were the best in the whole series! Why's you hate 2? That's what really launched the franchise

[@empath69]

@@kurtsudheim825 probably wasn't expecting a ludo/narrative dissonant ending like we got. Spoilers below: The Jackal concludes that it is he and we the protagonist (both agents of an outside nation's intelligence agency) and our merc friends (also hired by various outside elements that are meddling with the civil war for their own ends) that are the real problem here, always preventing one side or the other from winning and keeping the region and its suffering populace locked in an unending state of strife.

[@annana6098]

It probably doesn't count in the same way, but there was a very upsetting "fight yourself" in Crono Cross, where you catch up to the villain and he body swaps with the silent protagonist, and then you suddenly have to fight yourself and your party as the villain. As I remember it, you lose, and spend a chapter running around in the villain's body trying to figure out what the heck just happened. There was a very jarring moment where your character suddenly speaks for the first time, and you realize he's not your character now.

[@LAZERAK47V2]

Kinda reminds me of Doopliss from Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door.

[@mitchellbonds766]

Yeah, this was a HUGE plot point, and watching Lynx manipulate Kidd the whole time is teeth-grinding frustrating.

[@ViperliciousOG]

*oh shiet he has a voice! Run!*

[@annana6098]

@@ViperliciousOG "Wait... I'm talking? Why am I talking! I don't talk! No, no no, that's my character, that's me, what did you do! OMG, I can't even try to talk to my party..." They get you thinking of your silent character as yourself, and then steal it from you. I guess they had to one up themselves killing the silent protagonist in the first game somehow.

[@gamebrojoe]

I feel like, in my imagination, Ocarina of Time Link spent so much time trying to find Navi after the events of Majora’s Mask, that the forest turned him into a Stalfos. One of the Kokiri in Ooc states that those that aren’t native to the forest become Stalfos. And since Link is actually a Hylian that was raised as a Kokiri, the rules still apply.

[@njoynda6ickness247]

It might not be your imagination. If im remembering correctly, ocarina and majora are in the same timeline as twilight Princess. In TP you learn alit of your abilities from a stalfos thats hinted to be a previous hero of time

[@yastaav]

In Yakuza: Like a Dragon you fight the previous protagonist Kiryu. It's a cool fight where he uses fighting styles from previous games and it's interesting to see those moves in a turn-based style. There are also fights against other protagonists like Majima and Saejima.

[@reedybobeedy2394]

Don’t forget he also refuses to attack the female party members because Kazuma Kiryu doesn’t hit women

[@SalvageET]

Don't you fight him in one of the older games as well?

[@Banquet42]

You fight him on a beach in 4. You also fight Majima as Kiryu several times and as others I think.

[@Brian-tn4cd]

Id give more writing to the Majima/Saejima fight cus goddamn they made it hard

Same for Akiyama in the beginning of Yakuza 6

[@triel14]

You’ve missed the bossfights on Devil May Cry 4, where the first boss you fight is none other then Dante, the character you’ve been playing as in all the prior games. Then fight him again halfway through the game.

[@Mox1990]

Technically the vergil boss in dmc 5 also counts as you could play him in special versions of every game since dmc 3

[@triel14]

@@Mox1990 true

[@chimuoma390]

@@triel14 Speaking Of The Devil And Capcom,Where Is Omega Zero,The Devil Reploid?!?!?He's You From The MMX Series!!!AND HE HAS THE FREAKIN SHUN GOKU SATSU!!!!

[@RiotQueen144]

Splatoon 2: Octo Expansion. I remember how I did in the first game and I 100% do not remember being that terrifyingly good.

[@professional_lurker]

12:42 I appreciate the inclusion of the lore-compliant Mickey shirt scene For anyone out of the loop, at the end of KH1 [SPOILERS] Mickey is seen behind the Big Door with Riku, strangely missing his shirt as he helps close it from the other side. In his infinite brilliance the director of the KH series elected to ""fix"" this apparent oversight in the cutscene by making it a point to include a scene in KH0.2 where Mickey loses his shirt in a fight set shortly before his appearance in that famous doorway. Bear in mind that if they noticed this oversight and were unhappy with it, they could have simply fixed the cutscene in all the "final mix" versions of the game released a few years later. Nomura kept it, and made it canon. God I love this franchise.

[@jaredcrabb]

That spoiler may actually make me play kingdom hearts. Never did cause FF and disney dont belong together.

[@bsgfan1]

South Park: The Fractured but Whole At one point, your character time travels and fights the past version of themselves (from the previous game). Bonus time-ception since you can summon an even _earlier_ version of your character from the further past to help you. It’s past you vs you + past past you.

[@justforkicks5112]

"You were supposed to destroy the sith not join them!"- every new protagonist in a series

[@ddjsoyenby]

"f it being evil was way more cool...........unlike you"

[@LadyOnikara]

@@ddjsoyenby Plus, it seems like the bad guys get cooler looking clothing.

[@insaincaldo]

@@LadyOnikara And all the money, if Kotor is any indicator.

[@samwhary5498]

The undead have always been feared, and for good reason. An undead's strength is only limited by its will. Castles will crumble, armies will die, but the undead will still come. You can be a legendary warrior, a great king, or a literal god, and the undead will still come. They are as relentless as the tide. The life of an undead is marked with eternal suffering, but those with an iron will can never be broken, even as the world around them fades into the dark. In our suffering we found strength, and with our strength we toppled gods and changed the world. Take these lessons to heart my friends.

[@rickyroughton8098]

Which series' undead are you referring to? My guess is DS, but that description does still fit multiple series.

[@samwhary5498]

@@rickyroughton8098 dark souls, though you have a point.

[@pacifistminigun3987]

damn

[@humannomore7759]

@@samwhary5498 Sekiro's whole plot revolves around this point as well

[@redblade5556]

did you just type how to turn yourself into undead?

[@DaZebraffe]

As for my own contribution to the subject of this video: How about Isaac and crew from the last game, in Golden Sun: The Lost Age? Halfway through TLA, you have to fight against the crew of heroes you spent an entire previous game as, trying to save the world. Heck, if you actually played all the way through the last game, the game itself would generate a password you could use in TLA to get THE EXACT CHARACTERS you ended the last game as, to appear in the sequel!

[@NateAfterNite]

I almost teared up in Yakuza 7 when I ended up fighting the dragon of dojima. I was invested I Kazuma for a long time I was happy to see him.

[@rekiirek5601]

came here just to make the same comment

[@CsubAzUrmedve]

What about Alex Mercer from Prototype who [SPOILERS] is the final boss of Prototype 2?

[@Khonsu-Neferhotep]

Fked up. Most of them didn't like him as villain.

[@septianputra2496]

Plot just went to shit. Dana, his sister, should be the next protagonist, along with Alex too, not some random black dude while Alex got turned into the dumbass villain.

[@wesleyward5901]

@Septim Ra Don't diss Heller. He's a better character than Mercer was and Prototype 2 was the first game I platinum'd.

[@Khonsu-Neferhotep]

@@wesleyward5901 mercer is the "VIRUS" . Other than him no one can evlove or adapt that virus. If he ends story ends no new shit no monsters etc .

[@septianputra2496]

@@wesleyward5901 That was because Alex got dumbed down to a stereotypical power hungry villain.

[@zigazav1]

Or, what about Splatoon 2's DLC "Octo Expansion"? The DLC literally has the new character, dubbed Agent 8, fight against the protagonist of Splatoon 1, Agent 3, twice! One is a mandatory boss fight required to be beaten to progress towards the final battle of that DLC, while the other is your "reward" for clearing all the missions it has. And oh boy, in both encounters, Agent 3 is not playing around he/she (you decide their gender earlier in the DLC's story) goes all out on you! He/she even cheats by being able to swap out Specials from Splatoon 2. It's a special thing to be able to fight against him/her

[@Envy_the_Darksider]

Oh yeah this~! Love that someone mentioned it!

[@It_sSophiaUwU]

One of my favorites is in splatoon 2's dlc called octo expansion, which has not only one, but two boss fights with your former self. At the end, you, as agent 8, fight a mind controlled agent 3, the protagonist of splatoon 1, who is constantly using specials and is a very tough fight. Also, there is a secret boss fight called "inner agent 3", which is basically agent 8 remembering the fight they had with agent 3 before octo expansion started, and it is an insanely difficult fight.

[@megakirby2131]

EXACTLY

[@zulubunsen9067]

The Legacy of Kain series does this repeatedly, especially due to time travel shenanigans: - In Blood Omen you play as Kain, and have a battle against a prospective Kain from another timeline. - In Soul Reaver you play as Raziel and fight Kain two times. - Even in Soul Reaver 2 you fight Raziel's former self as him. - Then in Defiance you play as both, fighting first Raziel as Kain and then the other way around during the same battle.

[@kezzstar24]

We need another Legacy of Kain game. They've brought back Megaman, surely they can bring back Kain!

[@ajweakley9548]

Bump

[@Gusanoman]

@@kezzstar24 I don't think that would ever work. Now the rights of the series belong to Square Enix and Amy Henning is out of the matter. I would only get hyped for another Kain game if she is at the lead. And with Square, that is very unlikely.

[@justPallas]

There's also Yakuza: Like a Dragon, where your fight with the legendary Dragon of Dojima ends not because you beat him, but because he decided he was done fighting.

[@aryabratsahoo7474]

Spoilers Same with Yakuza 4 with Saejima vs Kiryu. And Kiryu vs Akiyama and Tanimura. And with 6, Kiryu vs Akiyama.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

He was testing you. And considering all the shit he went through, it makes sense that Ichiban and his friends can barely put a scratch in him. He's been through so many more numbers at once, been shot and stabbed *in cutscenes* and lived (MULTIPLE TIMES, MORE THAN ONCE!) and all this big boss fight amounts to for him is a regular Premium Adventure substory for his life of generally staying away from this stuff for good. And the reason you're fighting him? Ichiban gets dangerously close to becoming an old late friend of his.

[@drfake1110]

You also fight kiryu in yakuza 4

[@johannvongenerico9487]

The unexpected Fresh Prince reference, you love to see it, that Jazz ejection running gag was excellent

[@TayR0C]

"AUGH"

[@benjamincarper2518]

That’s not the only time you fight Kyle Katarn. You also fight him in the expansion pack to Dark Forces II called Mysteries of the Sith. You even featured a brief clip of it!

[@greenhunter473]

Trails of Cold Steel II actually has a very interesting take on this trope. Late in the game one chapter has you suddenly playing as the previous protagonist, Lloyd from Trails from Zero/Trails to Azure and it's actually the current protagonist, Rean who is the boss fight of the chapter. You then swap back to Rean for the rest of the game after the boss fight.

[@carbon6111]

That was really unexpected/

[@thewhitephoenix5933]

Cs 4 has an arsome fite against him

[@greenhunter473]

@@thewhitephoenix5933 and then there's Trails into Reverie which is like GTA V in that there's three protagonists that you can swap between at any time (with Rean, and Lloyd being two of them) where you start a boss fight while playing as Rean against the new protagonist >C< and then half-way through the fight you swap from Rean to >C< and now Rean is the boss.

[@dr.calibrations7984]

While I love the Soul Of Cinder being, basically a "Thank you" to the long term fans. I prefer them going to their Berserk inspiration in Geal as the very last send off to the series. Kinda a "Thank you" to Miura which considering his passing, is especially relevant.

[@peachypet808]

The Soul of Cinder is great as a sign that we are done with the concept of the fire for good. We are done with out previous iterations. Gael is a berserk and corrupted version of himself due to the dark soul. Gael marks our end of meddling with the dark soul. And Friede marks us being done with the worlds made in paint. Basically, Dark Souls 3 and its DLCs perfectly finish what Dark Souls initially began. All of it. No fire, no paintings and no dark souls anymore.

[@pysfullworld460]

@@peachypet808 May DS bless Elden Ring Amen

[@rosehearttoxic1691]

Soul of Cinder has never been confirmed as being the chosen undead or the main character from DS2 people just put that on the boss

[@dr.calibrations7984]

@@rosehearttoxic1691 He's a remnant of all previous Lords Of Cinder. Considering that the flame was linked that would HEAVILY imply that both the Chosen Undead and the Bearer Of The Curse linked the fire. And if not them, than who? SOMEONE linked the flame, who else would be strong enough to do it?

[@DurvalLacerda]

Jesus Christ, I remember playing *Jedi: Outcast II* and in the beginning when you fight Desann for the first time I would reload the game everytime he killed me not knowing I can NOT win the fight because it's scripted I spent the whole day trying to win it

[@ViperliciousOG]

RIP to your day

[@SonakaG]

You actually Can beat him, although it breaks the games scripting tho lol. (can't remember quite, but I'm guessing Desaan is the guy with the guns and stuff near the beginning of the game.)

[@DurvalLacerda]

@@SonakaG Desann is the main villain, with the lizard head, the one you fight in the final stage

[@Randoman590]

@@SonakaG No, Desann is the main boss. Big lizard face, red lightsaber with spikes on the pommel. He is hard-coded to take no damage in the first fight, so you can't kill him. The only way for him to die is to use the cheat "npc kill all", which kills not only him but every single NPC on the map. I haven't tried doing this, but if I were to guess I'd say it softlocks the game, leaving you alone in the map with nothing to do.

[@stellleo]

fun fact this happened in my friend's dnd campaign in the first campaign, he chose a paladin as his character. in the next campaign (with him as the dm), we got to fight that same paladin as a boss

[@furiouscorgi4812]

Ellen: You know they'll kick your but, because you remember a lot of butts being kicked. Proceeds to have a Dark Souls character

[@dr.calibrations7984]

Well considering that to become a part of the Soul Of Cinder you have to link the flame, which means you had to beat the game.

[@estebanramirez1178]

An interesting one comes from Dragonball Xenoverse 2. If you completed and owned the previous game, you have the option of choosing one character as the well respected hero of the next game (complete with an honorary hologram statue). Late in the game, you would have to fight a mind controlled version of that hero. If you compete in the Supreme Kai of Time’s tournament, you will be able to face off against that hero complete with the original skills you had in the first game.

[@PanmasterAtArms]

It's funny, because I made my character(named Carus) a spitting image of my character from the first(named Icarus), so when my old character's equipment got passed down, I literally just looked like the same character with one letter changed from their name

[@QuarianGuy]

Was looking for this

[@shade159]

Strange, my xenoverse 1 character during the tournament had the basic frieza species build. Other than that, I thought it was cool.

[@frodobaggins7710]

The ending of the video has convinced me that we need more passive aggression from Luke and Ellen on the channel

[@katfromthekong414]

Hahaha yeees!! 😂👏🏼

[@danielydia2806]

I'm surprised Jill Valentine in RE5 and Ellie in The Last of Us Part 2 weren't on the list! Such intense boss encounters!

[@blackzero1956]

It was a pretty underwhelming fight Jill to be fair. Definitely compared to the other freakish monstrosities you fight in that game.

[@thatterrariaguidenpc8054]

@@blackzero1956 underwhelming? you have Albert Wesker dodging bullets left to right while Jill just skitters like a damn spider, all the while both are spraying bullets at you, I'd say it's fucking lit especially the music

[@__Soya__]

You fight Ellie???

[@jaredcrabb]

​@@__Soya__ Didnt like LoU2, so I was glad for that spoiler. Itll be impossible to beat cause Ill deliberately lose to her. And never stop.

[@jaredcrabb]

​@@thatterrariaguidenpc8054 I dont remember Jill shooting, just beating. Hes right that compared to everything else she is underwhelming. Not compared though annoying as fuck fight.

[@Mankoi1701]

How about the Witches of Brigmore DLC for Dishonored? That leads with a boss fight against Corvo himself!

[@jamesdoyle6914]

I love that whole scene because Corvo's mask just looks cool in the base game. Seeing it from the other side shows you how fucking terrifying a mute, masked serial killer (or at least serial incapacitator) can be, plus the morality system feels more satisfying that you get treated the way you treated others.

[@Mankoi1701]

@@crimsoncorsairgames Only in High Chaos. You can beat him properly if you import a Low Chaos run of Knife of Dunwall.

[@WillieManga]

You're not required to win against him, because we all know how Daud does against him. Though, as badass as I am in that game, I remember only robbing him instead of taking him head on.

[@lightwielder1181]

One of the most memorable fights for me is when you had to fight Roxas in Kingdom Hearts 2. Mostly because I played Kingdom Hearts 358 1/2 rights before I played Kingdom Hearts 2. The emotions from the previous game were still there. 😢

[@impalacrush2439]

Random thought of the day : since technically marvel is owned by disney, there is a chance of iron man or other avenger become a party member of future kingdom heart it might be cool for short term but consider how the lore of kingdom heart is, the writer will have nightmare about it

[@lancethedecayedguardian2719]

@@impalacrush2439 They technically already have had marvel in KH3, since Big Hero 6 is marvel so wouldn't be surprised really

[@Dollightful]

This episode was so hilarious! You guys are knocking them out of the park these days.

[@gmodiscool14]

bruh wgat

[@gmodiscool14]

what us ur channel

[@notmagnusthered1602]

holynshtit dollightful

[@spicybeantofu]

You watch these guys as well? small world :3

[@TheSleepinInsomniac]

the moment when a channel painting dolls has 1.2 million subs and you just give up on your own channel and life, grats to you you fucking boss

[@theesengovender1870]

They unfortunately got the lore for Castlevania wrong. Jonathan isn't a descendant of the Belmonts. The Belmonts passed on the Whip to the Morris family in a previous game. To prove his non heritage (converse to what Ellen said) the whole plot of Portrait of Ruin is that the Vampire Killer whip has lost all its power because it has been away from the Belmonts for too many years. Jonathan must reawaken the whip by meeting the Belmont ancestors

[@SLChaiThai]

The Time Crisis protag boss goes even deeper in 5 when you first fight Keith Martin (yes, this one!) but then it turns out he’s trying to help you get Robert Baxter (his partner!) , the actual main villain!

[@FFFan3445]

I'd say the single best example of this I've experienced was in the battle agains Trainer Red in Pokemon Silver/Gold. Blew my mind as a kid, still the best battle I've ever had in the series. It was all downhill after that, to be honest.

[@rickyroughton8098]

I got my fanboy out in a previous comment, but Pikachu Edition was my first game and Crystal was my second game. My team in Pikachu Edition was almost identical to Red's team in Crystal. The moment the fight started I recognized the sprite, and as the battle progressed I recognized the Pokemon. That whole event was such a rush for me!

[@dorksanddragons]

In Zone of the Enders 2, you face the protagonist of the first game, Leo Stenbuck. Who has used the time between games to become a badass pilot. Bonus points for the fact that he now pilots the mech from Gradius.

[@coop04]

SPOILERS I'm suprised you didn't mention Splatoon 2: Octo Expansion. Near the end, you fight Agent 3 (the protagonist of Splatoon 1 story mode), and if your nintendo account is linked to your Wii U and your nintendo switch and you played the first game, then the Agent 3 boss fight will take the appearence of your Agent 3

[@kingcaz1990]

How can you name drop Gary Oak and not include Red in gold/silver/crystal? Such a missed opportunity.

[@lacytaylor1501]

That's what I was thinking, you can battle Red in Gold, Silver, Crystal, HeartGold, SoulSilver, and I believe Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon. You get to battle him so many times.

[@NebulaDark]

@@lacytaylor1501 and B2W2 and in the lets go games.

[@WingedAsarath]

Yeah I was waiting for it to pop up on the spoiler scroll and... nope.

[@Banquet42]

After Ellen mentioned the mech in the same sentence I started imagining that if Kojima joined with Nintendo they could do a legally distinct Metal Gear Oak...

[@aznisles]

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think Outside Xtra knew exactly what they were doing -- they purposely alluded to Pokemon and omitted the battle against Red so mentions of it would populate the comment section. I wouldn't put it past the clever buggers lol.

[@monody]

My thought was Dragon's Dogma. The last boss you fight is initially the prologue character, but every subsequent playthrough the boss will be another person's hero that has completed the game, or your own character.

[@Aquarios1337.]

Yes!

[@LazzyVamples]

I will turn off online every time I fight the Senschal. Fighting somebody else's character means nothing to me, but fighting my own old character does.

[@VinceMouse]

"Be careful of the ankles, we don't want to lose you." Donald, getting ready to cast Zeta Flare:

[@BloodThirstyAvengers]

Every boss fight in this video directed by Jim Carrey. "What the hell are you doing?" "I'm kickin' my ass, DO YA MIND?!"

[@robertharris6092]

Something similar is with spintercell: conviction. The co-op campaign has 2 players. One an american agent and another russian going through doing the usual espionage. But in the end of the final mission when youre both extracting in a c-130 you both get an order to assassinate the other.

[@flummoxedbuffoon]

The same with get out you play as to characters who are both in prison while one is undercover and by the end of the game you both have to fight and kill each other

[@thebadgerlord3799]

We know how the Hero of Time becomes a stalfos. In the sequel to OoT, Majora’s Mask, Link is wandering in the Lost Woods searching for Navi. In the lore of OoT, anyone who becomes lost while in the Lost Woods becomes a Stalfos.

[@Mr.Monacle]

I would hesitate to pass this off as absolute fact. Link may well have not ever gotten lost in the titular Lost Woods, and even if he had, he would have turned into a Skull Kid since he isn’t an adult yet.

[@peepspines2759]

well it’s clear that after MM, he just wandered off into the woods, but at that time he was a child so he would’ve became a skull kid, but the. he wouldn’t be taller so it’s tough trying to follow through what happened :3

[@fraserking4747]

Shoutout to Soul of Cinder, one of my favourite fights in the series. The theme is great, the fight itself is great, and knowledge of the lore just enhances it. Great way to send off the Souls trilogy, imo.

[@LibrarianOfLeng]

Honestly I like Gael a bit more but both are fitting ends to Dark Souls

[@kasparasbendoraitis3625]

In Splatoon 2 Octo Expantion, you will FIGHT YOURSELF from the first game, and if thats not all, HE IS ALSO THE SECRET FINAL BOSS, AND IS THE HARDEST BOSS IN THE ENTIRE SERIES, well at least for now.

[@cristil309]

Ellan: Look I played it and I still don't know what the f*** is going on here! I felt that on a spiritual level.

[@liamnehren1054]

I played a good chunk of the games and while it is a bit "set up your serial killer hunting board" kind of series like the chrono series it is still understandable as long as you play proud mode for all of the extra scenes.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

i got an hr in and noped out between the damn cut scene special attacks that pop up 3 times per battle and not understanding the dialogue much less the story i just couldnt anymore. i'm not as young as i use to be and theres not enough time for me to decipher it anymore.

[@linktheplayer3]

Surprised the SA-X does not appear in this personally After becoming Metroid infused after the power armor was taken off of you for health complications, having a version of you with the weapons designed to kill the very thing you have become, hunt you. That’s really scary And in my opinion one of the greatest last protagonist (kinda) fight/ basically running away until the end

[@jacobswafford1151]

I hated fusion for the longest time because of this 😂 young me had a whole lot of Nope for any SA-X encounter.

[@banquoviaquo9220]

I love the wording of "for health complications", like it's a liability Samus would have to put on her insurance forms forever after

[@CassiusStelar]

@@banquoviaquo9220 the federation better have free coverage for possessions, shit happens way too often, be it mind control from a teenage cyborg, mutations from a radioactive hivemind planet's blue goo, or getting body snatched by gelatin monsters

[@theamazingmr.shovelman8328]

Fighting Kazuma Kiryu himself in Yakuza 7 should make the list, that was one of the most terrifying experiences of my life

[@sev1120]

Especially because, without proper preparation he WILL absolutely destroy you, even on the game's easiest difficulty

[@danielbutler8103]

The battle against Red in Pokémon Gold & Silver (& the remakes) was great

[@jaredcrabb]

I didnt like him in the remakes (nor was he remotely hard, beat him 1st try in remakes with nothing over level 60. In contrast, 6 level 100s with type advantages lost over 1000 times in the original). Or the remakes for that matter. One of the hardest bosses in any game.

[@nicholassupino8775]

The Jedi knight games had the best feeling light saber combat to this day.

[@cantorlok2815]

Jedi Fallen Order does it better.

[@normanlandstruck3985]

The mod Movie Battles 2 makes it even better.

[@nicholassupino8775]

@@cantorlok2815 what? No way! Jedi outcast and academy was practically free form. The slightest touch would chop off your arm. Fallen order was like dark souls. Plus there was no people dismemberment in Fallen order.

[@nicholassupino8775]

@@normanlandstruck3985 there was so many cool mods for all three knight games.

[@doncoria9505]

Also: Kyle literally "can kick your ass" in the final fight against him (and you can use those moves with the cheat " IKNOWKUNGFU ")

[@Ashley-ou1nr]

"Don't get in my way Kyle!" is exactly why main characters can't be named kyle. No impact

[@wolftuxedo4301]

Splatoon 2's Octo Expansion gets you to fight Agent 3, the protagonist of the first game's single player mode. Not even one, but two times. Once at the end of the story, and another time once you completed every stages.

[@AAAAAAHHHHHHHA]

The Inner Agent 3 battle still haunts me to this day...

[@1000MilesAway]

I like how the spoiler warning is actually THE spoiler with this title and intro hahahahaha

[@jaredcrabb]

Not the only video either (and I dont even mean just theirs, but any of this type of video). There were a couple I saw that I could only think "Thanks, now I cant watch this cause I know xxx fact about it."

[@victoriousf.i.g.3311]

Adding more emotional weight to the War fight in DS2, Death is on a quest to save War and his first major hurdle is having to give him the ol' reaper special.

[@Jonathon_Hennessey]

Devil May Cry 4 has the player controlling the new protagonist Nero fight Dante the main character of the previous games.

[@LargeInCharge77]

No thats just tony redgrave

[@tyrannicpuppy]

"No you're weird." Does that savagery from Ellen count as Luke being battered by the last game's protagonist?

[@hyliangamer1707]

There’s actually one other I think people don’t realise. In Yakuza 4, one chapter allows you to play as Taiga Saejima (Goro Majima’s yakuza brother) in the main story of it you are given the opportunity to fight Kiryu Kazuma (the main protagonist of Yakuza 0-6) on the Okinawa beach near his orphanage Morning Glory. However I don’t think it would count since you play as Kiryu again in Chapter 4 of it.

[@panmanteca5923]

You also fight Akiyama in yakuza 6! And technically, while it is a remake, Yakuza Kiwami came out after Yakuza 0, and you fight Majima in that game.