7 Days to Die Alpha 18 Perk Overhaul!

[@Beans396]

Petition to call one of the lockpicking ranks *Smooth Criminal*

[@cursedsummoner]

second it

[@_ric]

Considering the connection to child abuse, one might suggest another pun.

[@cursedsummoner]

@@_ric why did you have to go and ruin it. By the way you do know he's dead, RIGHT?

[@ironbuttbiker]

@@cursedsummoner Who's dead?

[@cursedsummoner]

Yes @@ironbuttbiker Who is dead. But that's not the subject, we're talking about naming a perk after a Michel Jackson song, and then mcp goes and ruins it.

[@fallupside]

Please add the ability for single player worlds to increase backpack size like on many servers , also make food and water meter visible on the hud

[@Sanquinity]

Definitely these. Single player, the inventory you get just isn't enough until you unlock at least the minibike. And even then I can only do maybe 1 dungeon before both inventories are full. Just yesterday I started a new game I did a single medium sized building (not even a dungeon), and had to return to my base 3 times because I was encumbered. It's also pretty annoying to have to go into the menu and click the stat icon every time I want to see my water/food meters.

[@Oroberus]

Oh please don't, one of the reasons I like the survival aspect of 7d2d is that you don't have the feeling that the main gameplay loop is babysitting a constantly decreasing bar for any arbitrary need because it's right into your face all the time. The option to toggle it visible/not visible would be fine but please don't make it visible by default without a way to get rid of it.

[@johnpbickford6735]

Limited inventory space makes me grab the essentials. Do I need the can of food? Or should I ditch it for some cobblestone and building materials?

[@YouKnowMeDuh]

Setting backpack size at world creation, then that would be cool. But as an in game thing? Nah. Also, I think not having the visuals for food and water might be a little too much. Keeping track of your own stats adds to the feel of the game. Everything you need to know is in your person menu, which I find preferable. Forces you to actively pay attention to your character.

[@YouKnowMeDuh]

Separate large backpack as a rarity like on an MC mod would be a nice addition, if not a size change option at world start.

[@capp00]

That looks great. I know I've been asking for lockpicks since alpha 10, so I'm very excited to see what can do that now. Gotta be honest, when that music first faded in, I kept pausing wondering what the hell was going on outside my office.

[@michaelfarrell4824]

hahahaha I legit took my headphones off to look outside

[@AiRJacobs]

Same. Paused the video and looked around confused like a dumbass. If I can recall, the old music was removed around Alpha 12. So glad in-game music will make a return. The game sorely lacked atmosphere without it.

[@captainbear6188]

yeah I had to stop and look around my room to see where those noises were comin from. and what's up Capp

[@capp00]

Sup Captain! :)

[@holymegadave]

You sir are a capo.. li capo di tuti le capos hehe i follow your channel and i like very much your content! Cheers

[@10010Linus]

Passive idea for the master chef perk: use less meat when cooking

[@ImFrelled]

Maybe even less of a heat signature as a master chef would better know how to control the fire to cook the food at an optimal heat.

[@maskedlurker2297]

--'{@ Having Master Chef Use up less ingredients Would be a good start. Could increase the Buffs From "low level" recipes With each Perk level.

[@Kakiro_Miro]

Why is it under strength

[@fleshtonegolem]

@@Kakiro_Miro My feelings exactly. If you don't need strength for "Master Chef" why on earth was it moved from Intelligence (which more closely governs the skill of a chef) to strength which is really ONLY employed when butchering a large animal? Color me confused on that choice.

[@newman6434]

they could add a burn machanic like runescape

[@d.hudmon5350]

"Sexual Tyranosaurus is still here" -Your're got dang right it is

[@johnpbickford6735]

You don't fix what ain't broke.

[@Z-Twinturbo]

@@johnpbickford6735 nuff said

[@Morggin]

"Strap this on your sore ass Blain"

[@jackmyowl]

The Run Forest Run perk was super broken, still it was better than becoming dog food. Over 40% of my deaths in the console versions are do to dogs.

[@ronsee6458]

JackMyOwl along with 30% of mine, wouldn’t be so bad if they WERENT SO GLITCHY

[@Purgatorywolf]

Music is weird. lol Chef being under Strength doesn't make any sense. I think Heavy Armor should be under Str. Maybe swap the two? Having chef under int makes more sense, but even under Fort would be better the nin str. :)

[@Celleroth]

I gotta agree with ya, strength for chef really doesn't make sense. Heavy Armor is under Health, not Intelligence, but it'd still make more sense to switch the two as eating well can directly affect your health.

[@nixarrowman78]

massively agree

[@Eihwazgeht]

funny thats exactly how ive make it in nepa craft ^^ fortitude is a farmer/food class and strengh is meele/tank

[@thomaskafjord6062]

I don't always cook, but when I do, I always put ALL MY MUSCLES INTO IT!

[@Alphacheesehunter]

Agreed. As a long time professional, it takes more stamina to cook than strength.

[@regencysolid]

Joel from The Fun Pimps, I asked you before for 3-D ladders and you added them, please add back the ability to see your food and drink on the HUD, thank you Joel from The Fun Pimps

[@Wilson84KS]

HUD-Settings for individual setup would be best I think

[@snowydeath1778]

You can do so with XML changes. Very easy, there are mods for it too. And you see it when it lowers enough. Also your stamina is an indicator.

[@RageyRage82]

@@snowydeath1778 thats not what he asked for. He asked for that to be apart of the vanilla code. "Well, you can add it yourself" or "Mods can do that" is not a very good reason to completely dismiss an idea. So I think the Fun Pimps should genuinely consider some of these things. Besides that, mod developers and the game developers aren't always going to be on time with equal updates. I certainly don't want to go messing with XML coding either. Much simller if those things were implemented into the game with options.

[@undne9380]

PLEASE chnage the zombie AI

[@levih.8786]

Wish we could get a console update...

[@Youngblood457]

Sadly some other guy owns the consul rights of this game

[@colins3063]

@@Youngblood457 Didnt the console owners go bankrupt? So it's kind of in limbo until they give the rights back

[@sunonaro]

7daystodie.com/telltale-update/

[@jackmyowl]

Like I said in one of my other comments... Does anyone here know how to do coding for the PS4/XBOX ONE & do they have a Developers Kit for one of those consoles, maybe the fan community could try a make a patch for console, I mean look at what some of the people who make mods for Skyrim, Falskar & Wyrmstooth just to name a few very large mods.

[@doctordoubledakka3939]

Gotta get off that Fischer-Price computer dude

[@docg0533]

Awesome been playing alpha 15 on console since 2017 though wish we could get that updated

[@FlyingPigMD]

DocG 053 same. But I love the game so much. I’m currently taking a break from it because I’ve put an easy 500 hours on it. I always come back to it.

[@docg0533]

@@FlyingPigMD I agree completely this was my first building rpg that I had ever played I dont know how many hours I've put into it but new content is what will keep console gaming community alive for years to come

[@pedroornelas7861]

Agreed I started playing on console. Got kinda bored. Built a pc and now I'm enjoying the full game. I do agree that they should update the consoles. I did buy it twice, I would like the updated version. At least alpha 17

[@Jexorz86]

Yeah but the guys that were servicing the console port went bankrupt, So its probably going to be a while x.x

[@docg0533]

@@Jexorz86 I understand completely. I also know that telltale games were asking for the funpimps to buy back the rights to their game which is ridiculous. But I believe it was @Pedro Ornales said it would be nice to get an update at least to alpha 17

[@lo-xborgus1928]

Thank you for the news. We are looking forward to it. Nice job, keep going like this TFP. Bravo

[@nicholasoehmen7317]

Rank1: Shotgun Hobo Rank2: Shotgun Nomad Rank3: Shotgun Pro Rank4: Shotgun Master ... _thinking internally_ there's no way the last one won't be "Shotgun Messiah" Rank5: Boomstick ... *what* Seriously though TFP, A18 sounds great so far!

[@NickRoman]

Shotgun Messiah was the name of a Sleaze Metal band. Boomstick is what Ash called his shotgun in Army of Darkness. I have to admit, shotgun messiah sounds better. But the latter reference is more amusing (to me). So, I don't know.

[@nicholasoehmen7317]

@@NickRoman To me it seemed like they were leading up to that given that the first 4 ranks are all "Shotgun + [Rank/Class]" and with Shotgun Messiah being the name of the in-game gun stores, I thought for sure that's what they were building up to. I do certainly agree though, I definitely like the Ash vs Evil Dead reference!

[@AlwaysForwardGaming]

This looks amazing, add npc bandit faction and it's the perfect game for me :) Keep up the great work. You pimps are rocking it :)

[@Soundwave299]

If some areas had bandits to fight, and bandits fighting zombies that would be insanely awesome and even better if bandits attacked your base randomly as well with the occasional attack during a horde night would make a wonderful kind of chaos

[@AgentShields]

@@Soundwave299 didnt they say they were adding bandits sometime soon? Not sure though

[@elduquecaradura1468]

@@Soundwave299 that remind me to minecraft 1.14

[@TheChefODoom]

Joel, FunPimps, I just wanted to thank you so much for not abandoning the game in its hard times. I have been thoroughly enjoying the most recent update. Please never abandon this game

[@TheChefODoom]

Also, Santa, I would like Fishing some day soon.

[@Blechhower]

NO LVL GATING?! FK YES!

[@payden0_086]

what is level gating?

[@GrizzlyClawss]

@@payden0_086 4:34

[@RageyRage82]

4:32 Yes I posted it again because somehow the hypertext jumbled the timestamp with your reply target lol! But thank you. The level gating was always fustrating.

[@unacceptableminority7101]

I like it because now you can specialize now. Instead of having to level everything by default.

[@sidekickz2180]

@@payden0_086 its like waiting until your player level is 20 to craft iron tools or 100 for steel. Your intellect can be high enough, but you're stuck until you reach that player level

[@JayBiggsGamingYT]

Random gen looks so much better now. Good job

[@jacemachine]

Thank you, Joel! I appreciate the news and all of your hard work. I've been really enjoying A17.4 so far.

[@jons.4918]

Watching all these updates from alpha 16 and up from a PlayStation 4 perspective makes me feel like i am in the stone age.

[@christrack]

Jon Spader I feel the same

[@Reclusiveon3]

Xbox is the same

[@humbledrage9922]

Just wish they do something about it 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@colins3063]

@@humbledrage9922 They cant, they sold the console rights to someone else I think. And the company that now owns the console version doesn't exist anymore lol

[@colins3063]

I think it was telltale who bought the rights and are now bankrupt

[@fredrik2035]

The music will only be distracting. 30min in and everyone will turn it off and never put it on again. Different ambience triggered by time of the day i'd be ok with. Looks great though.

[@CelesteFassbinder]

that kind of music with an horrible shrill lead? yes. Should be atmospheric, pads and distant sounds echoes, wind

[@RayramAureanBlue]

Honestly, I feel the music at around the 3 minute mark might work if you're in the wasteland biomes, but I think it certainly isn't suitable when standing around in a grassy or woodland area.

[@haroldmcbroom7807]

I agree, and my advice would be to go back and watch 28 Days, and observe how powerful the music is, without the music setting the mood, the rest of the game suffers.

[@MbBadd]

@@haroldmcbroom7807 I don't know about ya'll but I need to hear what's going on around me when clearing a building, as to not wake the dead. music in this game isn't needed as much as more ambient sounds, the forest is not always quiet and still.

[@k.t.1641]

To be honest, the sound and music in this game has been sorely lacking.They really need a pro sound guy to do all the effects in the game, ESPECIALLY vehicles. But yeah atmosphere like in Minecraft would be perfect. Something short and sweet that could indicate the time of day. Hell im sure someone would do it for free if they called out

[@GDITaz]

Any news on getting the rights back for console 7 days to die? I love this game. And would love to see some updates for us.

[@kingcheee160]

Ask about console every video. They never reply

[@stuart3712]

7daystodie.com/telltale-update/

[@TheRaven0811]

@@stuart3712 the date was 11-3-2018. Almost 8 months ago. They could have written 7 days to die 2, and been done with all of this..

[@PorcelainViciousVixen]

The console was to be worked on by a company who shut down (TellTale). Its more TellTale that let it go to the pits. It's not really FunPimps thing, they'd have to find another company to work on console, but I don't know if there are any legal issues with giving the console game from TellTale. I think it's just a complicated thing to set up again.

[@stephenborden3929]

Fun Pumps don't seem to care about console players anymore.

[@Freaiser]

Pack mule should be removed and just be perked as the Str value... I mean the stronger you are the more you can carry

[@pbsixgun6]

Agreed, sorta. Learning how to efficiently pack things for faster storage and retrieval and space-saving methods are an actual skill...most armed forces teach it.

[@bra5081]

@@pbsixgun6 then it's not about strength seen that way :)

[@DomoArigatoMrRobaito]

Can we make a sewing machine to create our own clothing at some point? Great video. Super looking forward to this.

[@SDeww]

add real backpacks to the game!, small once, big once, so we can buy/sell/find larger/better backpacks!, not a stupid perk system for backpacks!.

[@hunterblackwidow]

Youd then have to have a slot on your character that you could lose. Rather than being strong enough to just carry everything and not have to worry about getting that piece of gear back everytime.

[@mikestrouse]

I like the reality of being able to lose your backpack, however larger backpack should require higher strength.

[@bra5081]

well you can buy / sell pockets for armor

[@19devin86]

The bigger the backpack the higher the speed reduction and hunger/thirst speed increase

[@WankersCramp69]

Bring back gun parts! Finding 100 pistols and shotguns and 500 tons of ammo on the first day kind of destroys progression.

[@mattvoelker241]

I actually did enjoy having to find the parts and assembling them.

[@newman6434]

why is master chef in strength? it was fine in intelegence.

[@gravityhypernova]

Everything looks amazing! Excited for the update. Remember to sneak in the ability to dye vehicles (even if it's quick n dirty with the entire model tinted) so we can tell each others' ride apart. ;)

[@32hawk]

I loved it, the game is getting better and better, great job

[@SuperTime2Change]

Thanks for the update, Joel. That's pretty damn cool stuff you guys have going on over there. Loving what I see in the new changes and already excited to take it for a spin. Good job to you all.

[@howtokev]

Super pumped for Alpha 18! Thanks for the update, Joel!

[@valor2382]

Looks cools so far 1) would appreciate faster swimming.. 2) Zombie models But doing a great job so far

[@bigfoot_thom729]

THANK YOU JOEL!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE WHERES THE UPDATE FOR THE CONSOLE OR ARE WE THE FORGOTTEN ONES

[@Dsrikers]

They dont own the rights to the console version

[@DirectorBongHts]

That music was boppin. Still dissapointed zombies can dig down.

[@CursedHer0]

So my character can become the person with the most intelligence and cooking skill on the server by just killing dozens of screamer hordes. Makes sense...unlike the old system where you actually needed to use the skill to get better.

[@bra5081]

yeah it's the Fallout paradigm.. your progression is totally independent from your actions. I can guess they got bored of the Elder Scrolls paradigm... too bad.

[@CheolA-i7g]

Ye, sense of acheivement for doing any action is gone. Before it was fun to just grind to lv stuff up. Now anything besides killing zombie feels like waste of a time for lving

[@CheolA-i7g]

They wanted to make specialized class by making you spend skill points for stuff but ironically made it easier to be jack of all trades since all u do is kill zombie for all skill builds.

[@fafski1199]

Exactly, the game has really been going downhill, ever since it became all about killing zombies, to gain XP, in order to level up skills. Add this to them also taking away books and recipes, crafting guns from parts and the crap 'mixed ore, mining with a lack of underground cave systems and the fun has gone from this game. A15 and A16 where far better versions, in my opinion.

[@Ralathar44]

Realism is a bad argument considering you can carry multiple houses in your pocket, grow crops in a few days, heal yourself from the brink of death in 30 seconds, and never ever have to sleep....which is kind of a big deal in the zombie apoc.

[@ladiesgentswegothim]

I miss the organic leveling (learn by doing) and finding recipes (learn by finding). Searching for recipes was a mini-game unto itself, and A17 did away with it. I think 95% of recipes should have to be found, and you only start with a few. If you start out nearly naked, then you shouldn't know how to do squat in the apocalypse. Read cookbooks, gun mags, DIY weeklies to learn random skills from those categories (do away with the single-use schematics that don't stack, etc). Don't centralize them in bookstores so much; cookbooks could be in cupboards, gun mags in gun safes, etc etc. Learning was part of the journey; make it better, don't just scrap it.

[@bra5081]

Totally i miss that too... it was fun!!! Now I collect magazines but I never know when is the right time to use them so I never use them I just stash them somewhere. Oh well I used a blacksmith magazine to be able to make a purple weapon but it seems being able to make purple weapons is getting nerfed too. A game based on crafting and we won't be able to craft everything :( And actually this new iteration doesn't seem to more fun in anyway compared to the A17. Skill to shoot a gun will also be skill to build a gun? sure that's totally the same thing... being a sniper and a rifle manufacturer is almost the same job. To be honest the variation in stats sounds cool one could find some interest in looting several orange guns. it gives it a little Borderlands vibe, well very little. I don't like that now to build a machine gun you will have to consume a schematic each time... that system sounds totally unrealistic and artificial, not to mention convoluted.. I am not sure I share Joe's enthousiasm.

[@benebsams]

@Krypto Mars If you use Steam, you can choose as far back as version 8.8 in the BETAS tab.

[@alan138]

What i feel about this new route the dev team is taking with the game, its making it lets say "far too simple". I know that its the actual job of a game designer but here im feeling that they are overdoing the desing to simplify the mechanics and collapse them all over the leveling. One of the things that make much more organic and satisfy previous alphas, was the randomness of finding some key elements. And once you have played this game in several alphas for a while lets say at least 10 times and at least more than 50 hours in each one, to say something. Is that some times some key items just simply resist themselfs to apear. For example im pretty sure each one of us have go through a play where the wrench just resist to apear and you are still in day 14+ with no wrench. I have played some plays where recipes where too hard to find becouse of the randomness of the map that wont give me almost any crackabook buildings, making me explore more and insist on finding citys, even to the point where in one playthrough i have to abandone my base and go all the 7 days out of it, to see if i can find those items, this was on a game with loot price on low. The thing is that now you know you level up to level 40 and you have the minibike, so you just grindlevel super fast to get it quickly. If you dont find an item dont worry you can craft it just by leveling, thats so boring. We dont have almost any incentive to explore and risk our lives in dangerouse places. I remember when i have to risk myself going into the construction site to find working stiff boxes and see if i can get an Auger. I feel that then only item that you are still searching after the few first feral blood moon hordes are the weapon and tool mods, and maybe to grind electric and electronic components to build the definitive base. But dont get me wrong anyway, A17 have some very good stuff that we waited for years, like the tool weapon mods, or the bike, bicycle and the truk, i love them. I just feel like its too easy once you get how to control the blood moon hordes and zombies as a whole. I remember having to grind tons of electrical and electronic and motors to build and power up docens of lights and turrets, blade traps and so on specially with 16+ zombies per player in horde. Now you just need to build a ramp and a cage and use tons of ammo for your AK47 and tons of molotovs and you are good to survive all the game. I miss the levels up to 600 in items too, i love to go looting just to get the perfect lvl600 item of your dream, having to combine parts to make better items was a good one to. Anyway i think i have some good ideas to solve some of this issues. For example they could make specific materials for specific key items that are hard to find. For example that to craft the truck you have to grind a special engine no the small one, or maybe other pieces i dont know. And for the weapons and tools too, it seems to me too artificial that you can craft an auger just becouse you have level, i dont know maybe you can make it so to craft the auger you have to find the mold for the pieces or something like that, and once you have it you can craft how many augers you want. Or maybe even do two variants of those items, for example you can craft a "shabby" auger on your own but you can find the pro one looting, maybe the same for the weapons, that could be cool. Anyway giving that much ideas sound like if i should go and make a mod ¿right? hahaha.

[@danievdw]

So true, a lot of the fun was taken out of the game with thse changes, and now zombie loot also gone...

[@adamprince2869]

I think that some stuff you need to find BPs for like make shift weapons like a Dart gun, flamethrower's ,battle axes, Maces , thermite , Longswords , Spike bomb , Incendiary Rounds. And armor like Reinforced Leather, steel ,army armor . And traps like Fire traps, Spring traps, steel spikes , Blade traps, turrets , tesla traps. And more

[@ImFrelled]

Liked, subscribed and now I've commented. It's looking good. Especially the random gen. Those roads actually look like they fit into the terrain now.

[@pbsixgun6]

any chance of full bicycles being spawned in as loot in specific locations? House garages, mega stores etc.just a bike in uncertain condition laying against a wall(or hanging from it) or on the back of certain vehicles. Just like ya might see them in real life.

[@GiggaGanGaming]

This looks great, can't wait to start playing around with some of these perks. Lockpicks will be awesome, getting rid of the monotonous breaking down of safes when you're in a rush.

[@Kirivera]

I vote for the perk system before A17. It felt satisfying and rewarding to level up something by doing it.

[@jackclark1994]

Too easy to speed craft stuff to level it up.

[@Kirivera]

Well... then balance it more.

[@mtnd02.06]

@@Kirivera How? Balancing something more doesn't necessarily get rid of its problem... You're basically fixing cracks In a wall with ducttape there.

[@Kirivera]

MtnD0 2.0 That’s not how I see it. But, if you want to kill zombies to learn how to grow crops, that’s fine too.

[@alexanderfl-ts3171]

Game becoming more and more kids friendly.

[@garyhill68]

I'd like to see more options for the type of random gen world you can get (i.e. more traders, more forest, less burnt, less wasteland) like you could do with the Nitrogen mod.

[@benkeachy]

plus 100 likes.

[@ThatOneGuyYMK]

PSA TFP don't hold the rights for console, they sold that to Tell Tale who went under a little while back. TTG recently held an auction where an anonymous buyer purchased the rights. Its safe to assume console support for 7D is dead.

[@goober_777]

But why would an anonymous buyer buy it to do nothing with it to waste money?

[@ThatOneGuyYMK]

@@goober_777 Well, why are they so intent on remaining anonymous. I doubt there will be any further updates for the current console port, there wouldn't be any money in that. If anything, there will be a spinoff or maybe, just maybe, dlc.

[@Jexorz86]

@@goober_777 to get residual income off all future sales of the game

[@jakeherrli8890]

Can you guys update console to like Alfa 16 or 17 we are still in 15 sadly

[@androo1461]

They can't update the game on console cause they don't have the rights anymore.

[@someguyxddd]

alfa?

[@delothh]

gwavity :3 Alfa, beta, gamma: that’s actually the correct spelling of the Greek alphabet’s letter.

[@schniepaoloro2321]

Are there any news for the ps4 and xbox players?

[@simplygaming2280]

Have you gotten the electricity update yet even?

[@V_Deity]

@@simplygaming2280 we got halted right before this update

[@Steven663]

Yeah there is . get a pc 😂😂

[@steveshot81]

I stopped playing for that reason.My game also crashed and lost half of my base

[@Steven663]

@@V_Deity you mad brah ? Also my display picture isn't vaping. So don't act like Mr know it all 😂😂😂

[@Thepher6]

YEEEEAH! A18! Random world gen is one of my favorite things about this game, I'm stoked that it's seeing some love, I knew it would.

[@Eliwood407]

Woo more perk changes! Keep it up guys! And especially don't work on the game's focus! We don't want zombies to be 100% lootable to incentivize hiding and avoiding combat, but we do want them to be the main source of XP to undo that idea! We don't want to have to scavenge for weapon parts to not only make a weapon, but also to feel a sense of improvement with every slightly better part we find. We want to find 10 shotguns, 100 pistols, and a shit ton of ammo so we don't ever even have a use for the bow or melee weapons! Hell why don't we get rid of the bows and stealth aspect of the game? With the amount of guns we find we can just run and gun every building! :D I also love that the quality of weapons, tools, and armor adds nothing more than extra durability. It feels really good to find a poop brown set of steel armor, is by default superior in any way but durability to any quality 6 purple shit I find! Don't worry though! Durability is a non-issue, the materials and knowhow on repairing an intricate piece of fire-arm is easy pickins, the moment an annoying prompt tells me to craft a stone axe. Also thank you for making virtually everything in the game craftable now. I hate scavenging in this game that is all about scavenging! God I love 7days, and unlike anything written above; I will speak truthfully now. I love 7days, and I hate it. I've shared this love&hate relationship with the game since it came out. Something always lures me back into the game, I always find a way to enjoy myself and keep myself busy while turning my back to the bad portions of the updates. But the update that removed weapon parts and quality, man.. that one hit so hard. The incentive to endgame scavenging was completely destroyed by that update. P.S.: I know this is out of your control, but your forum is a big mess. Nowhere can you express your view on updates -no matter how well worded and constructive- without getting torn to shreds by a mob of fanboy babies. Hence why I put this here. I love your game, so much so that I hate to see it turn into another RUST clone

[@thisismyname5657]

It's crazy how much this game can improve but also worsen all in one update. Not having to sit around tediously crafting tons and tons of the same tool to improve it is nice but at the same time just having to kill zombies for XP to improve massively dumbs down the game, for instance.

[@Eliwood407]

@@thisismyname5657 Yeah I'm glad I no longer have to craft 2000 shovels to increase my tool crafting skill. Though it seems better, they still seem to have a lot of issue trying to add a progression system to the game. With hardly any effort at all, you skip so many steps in the progression system. To the point I've personally never crafted any leather or scrap armor myself. I wish I had the answers :/ I wish Funpimps had the answers too.

[@lupawolf152]

Samurai level for Deep Cuts - is there a samurai sword in game? Can one be crafted?

[@Soundwave299]

Lots of blades via some weapon packs

[@sle21408]

I love this game. I play it with my family and friends. I have played for a very long time. I have well over 2500 hours on the game. Any time the game changes or has something taken out or brought back it is like playing it for the first time again. It keeps me interested and I enjoy myself for many more hours of game play. I appreciate all you have done TFP. I only have one quick question and it is meaningless to most but I am a woman and I'd like to know if you guys are planning to adjust how you can make a character physically appear? So, in other words, can we see a decent ability to change our characters looks, hair, face shape, eye color and shape, body types on a more detailed level?

[@pbsixgun6]

You can create a custom model basing it off the existing ones it's not fully functional atm but it does exist.

[@psoriasamurai]

I love all the new changes and can't wait for the release Joel! Keep your head up and keep doing what you do. 7dtd is the bomb and always will be!

[@candybetta4061]

these perks look pretty fun, excited for the deployable turrets XD

[@jellykelly1462]

I LOVE THIS! Thank you for the amazing work and making this game cooler

[@jasongibbins6484]

It looks good, I have 7d2d on PS4, any news on updates for that, I love this game

[@stuart3712]

Best buy a pc because they are mainly focused on pc. Telltale owns the rights to consoles for this game and they are not in business anymore or in the shadows so till they give funpimps the console rights back or do it themselves then you will not get updates.

[@bazaarcreation6975]

I play on xbox one x and I can honestly say never...

[@TheRaven0811]

@@stuart3712 we already know that. All of this is very unfortunate for console players like me. I would think that there are work arounds for that, but I don't know what is going on behind the scenes. Although it would be helpful if the Fun Pimps themselves would adress the issue from time to time to keep us up to date. Even if it was to say that there's no new information. It's pretty frustrating for all of us who have spent our money on the game (collectively millions) to not have updates. How much of that was used for development of the pc game...

[@svmvnthvf.2508]

@@TheRaven0811 1+

[@LilMissBritt130]

Agreed. Its frustrating

[@nielshuisman7102]

@TheFunpimps when do we get a console update i have paid good money for the game on xbox but it is dissapointing that we never get a new uodate nor dlc

[@a10bam420]

Do some research on Tell Tale Games. You'll find your answer

[@norXmal]

Haven't played in a while, but I heard from a mate that the game perks are needlessly being updated by one of the devs that barely plays the game, is this a fake rumor I've been hearing or what?

[@asyns7243]

No it's true

[@bra5081]

Looks like it. They seem to be making quite a mess. I wouldnt mind the updates if the updates were upgrades. But who cares that boomsticks goes in strength? Maybe it makes sense maybe not. But I notice the intellect is looking pretty empty right now. (No double meaning intended)

[@dodolord6298]

I don't understand why the master chef skill is on the strength tree. It made more sense for it to be on the intellect tree since you have to "know" recipes to be a better cook. Or adding it to the survival perks tree would work too since cooking is basically a "survival" skill. Also, would you consider the idea of adding an "advanced" crossbow? Kind of like the compound bow. Made out of polymer and steel and will require steel instead of forged iron to repair but will be more powerful than the basic wooden version.

[@livegaming9008]

R yall going to update 7DTD for PS4?

[@darkoni95]

Nope they only do pc copy PS4 and Xbox copy is dead thx to the one group

[@ludicrous_spd]

How will this affect the alpha 17 character, there's a lot of people who have put hours upon hours into the games and characters. Will we get our points back? Will we have to start from scratch? I'm all about new updates so this is a concern and not a complaint. Also if there are to be new poi added to navazgane is there a way to do that without wiping the map?

[@MrFree-xp5lc]

Any word on the console side? Did the buyer scrap an start over, are they working on it yet?

[@Mario-gd5qk]

Mr. Free PLEASE lmao Ik it’s not TFP’s fault but it feels like they fucked over and ghosted everyone who supported them by buying the console version of the game

[@Jessicaaaabanana]

Mr. Free yea seriously...

[@DeVon5151]

the only thing anyone know is the rights were bought by someone, and they haven't came out and said anything..weird

[@ramue5749]

It wasn't just that Telltale were making the ports, they had and still do have the rights to those ports and no further work can be done on them until that is sorted out legally and TFP have full rights over the ports again or else they could have a lawsuit on their hands. Put basically TFP don't even own the console ports legally at the moment and they are trying to fix that which can be a very long process, you know how bureaucracy is.

[@MrFree-xp5lc]

@@DeVon5151 I know. Was hoping TFP could give us console folks any type of insight after the rights were sold in April since TT screwed everyone on console.

[@likasil]

Love how the crafting is all interconnected and linked to the perk table. Nice! As well as how crafting quality is more related to that particular perk, and ungating it all. Plus, being able to buy vehicles? Awesome! Really looking good. Look forward to release. :)

[@jaspercruel7594]

Are we going to get future updates on consoles

[@okienative4785]

It's still in a legal battle

[@callumlyons7905]

@@okienative4785 i'm sure the legal battle is over someone has bought the rights to console but the buyer remains anonymous

[@reagenlionel]

Why is melee punching not under strength with the blunt weapons?

[@johnsmith7342]

Can u tell us any news about console?

[@a10bam420]

Same thing every time some one asks the console question..no response. Don't expect a response from these guys

[@gerardvds5633]

Yeah ! Thanks for sharing ! Looks promising ! Can't wait for it ! Thanks again for all this marvellous game and evolution !

[@michaely409]

The music is pretty distracting, espicially if you're always listening out for zeds, but it's nice to have the option, more options are always a good thing.

[@bra5081]

I never have the music on.

[@_ric]

Always great to see devs give feedback on the work they are doing, but for me the main thing that hampers my 7DtD enjoyment is not the perks, or the level gates (or lack of them) but the frame rate. I appreciate the game is still technically Alpha but it's considerably mature in terms of development cycle. Time has come to ensure that the vast majority of people can play solidly 60fps+. I am developer, and many years ago was an actual game developer too, so I realise just how tricky it can be to optimise stuff while adding more stuff, and making sure the current stuff doesn't break, but it "needs" to be done at some point. Sooner the better, imo. Anyway... no negatives are meant from this comment, you and your teams' coding have brought me considerable enjoyment over the years and I thank you, and them, for that.

[@scotte4765]

Did you watch the last few minutes of the video? He talked about optimization and frame rate work they've been focusing on.

[@_ric]

@@scotte4765 I didn't watch it entirely through, all due respect to Joel but his video presentation style is akin to taking a bottle of Xanax. It's good that they are now taking that seriously, but it's one of those "I'll believe it when I see it" things.

[@Blechhower]

As far as i remeber a big issue with trying to be a tank was getting bleeding wounds that totally ignore armor etc. Is there a way to handle those wounds now?

[@cursedsummoner]

or maybe just have armor reduce the chance of open wounds. It's like some zombies have over 50% chance (and no not the zombie animals)

[@vapechallenger1180]

Any info on the console? I love that you guys are trying to earn the rights back! I play on pc once a week with a friend and I'm to scared to do horde night lol but any info would be great

[@stuart3712]

Great question, least you know.

[@sarahnachtrose]

I play 7DtD since the A14. In each alpha, the skill system has been changed. Somehow the game played like a new game.

[@159Revan]

out of curiosity,why did you guys shy away from the origional perk system? i have this game on pc but play with friends on xbox and i enjoy the perk progression a bit better. doing things increases your skills over time. Also, why arent consoles getting these updates? Not angry, just wondering.

[@rickthompson6760]

This is just rehashed 17 garbage, it's nothing like 16.4 and this game died with 17. Zero interest in a 17 based game and I have 36 friends on my list with 1k to 2k hours with 16.4 and prior... they all say the same thing. Some of us are playing 16.4, nobody 17+ and 3/4 of them just quit playing all together.

[@ticklord]

Why not have master chef perks give food that's crafted additional benefits? Like healing or damage reduction or insulation

[@kittaylor9013]

looking forward to this, i know its going to be middle of 2020 when you get it out but yeah lol keep up the good work!

[@shimba90]

I like the change in perks, but why not make the main stat increase with using/doing the things under that perk tree? like a combo of the old and the new? It just makes more sense to me that you gain more strength by doing strength related things etc.

[@pbsixgun6]

Some skills should still only be learned by DOING..practice, practice, practice!!

[@bra5081]

Like cooking?

[@yeahboiii6640]

You guys fixed something since 17 came out initially on performance! I couldn't even play when it first came out. I would go into any building even with no Zeds on and I would literally drop to 5 FPS even on lowest settings. But I tried it out now in 17.4 and it plays smooth as butter!!! Plays smoother now than in 16! Thank you for that! Awesome. I missed playing this game. Looks like some really cool things coming. I like the weapons with random stats! I am a loot whore so love it! Take it easy! Can't wait til 18!

[@hans471]

Hi Madmole, I would find it great if zombies would have more different abilities. E.g. only soldiers and engineers can dig. Also the intelligence could be different, i.e. smart zombies use the a17 pathfinding, dumber types of zombies use some a16 pathfinding (or some continuous model like a parameter how deep the pathfinding is computed depending on the zombie intelligence). Also agression could play a role: Stronger, more agressive zombies could e.g. prefer the direct route... The agression could also depend on the mood of the zombie which could be a random variable. Also some properties could be transitive, i.e. in the neighborhood of a smart high level zombies, the other zombies act smart as well ('imitation'). All these changes would not even require a rewriting of the pathfinding...

[@mtnd02.06]

Having intelligence kind of takes away from the fact that they are zombies. Not to mention the fact that they'll still do the same thing no matter what. Also, every Zed already has certain attributes that come with the varying types. Like cop's having projectile vomit. Crawler's scaling walls. Feral's being faster, stronger and more resilient to damage. So having abilities wouldn't really change anything other than having maybe a few special infected. The mood part does interest me, but what would make it different to what we have now? Moods don't really change the game at all. Especially in zombies, since their only goal is to eat the living. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just curious as to what you ate suggesting. Like I said, the mood bit does interest me. (Also, sure it wouldn't effect the pathfinding, but they would still have to implement a system in order to put those changes in game.

[@garyhill68]

You should try the BorderlandZ mod for 7dtd! Watch Kage848 playing it.

[@hans471]

@@mtnd02.06 Hey, thanks for the answer and I agree with many of your points. Of course, the argument can be made that Zombies should not be that smart. On the other hand, the game only allows for few zombies at a time which justifies smarter zombies somehow. My suggestions is motivated by the tendency of zombies to build a 'congo line' which I find boring. Additional parameters for the zombie-brain like 'mood', 'intelligence' and 'agression' could avoid that problem (maybe, however, creating new problems along the way...)

[@pbsixgun6]

Or make them random..some will...some won't. Ferals can do all however cause they are 'recently turned' and may still have a glimmer of consciousness driving them.

[@mikekeeley3432]

@@hans471 Only a few zombies? I suggest you try some of the mods that are readily available for the game. Try having a 60 strong roaming horde find you in the middle of a POI, thats always good for running around desperately trying to get out!

[@G7ue]

I lost hope and pretty much gave up on 7DtD in the last few updates. A18 is actually getting me pretty excited though. Bring back weapon parts and remove the broken temp system and it will be perfect.

[@michaelclemans8367]

Idk about the weapon parts, before 17 finding parts was terribly annoying even for low quality parts. But I kinda see what you're saying because finding whole guns literally everywhere is lame too. Temps are definitely too brutal though

[@Beebinow]

Update 7DTD for PS4?

[@mangoeman2308]

Hey can i know why no more updates are coming to console?

[@mtnd02.06]

He doesn't deal with that. And it's more of a legal issue, it has nothing to do with development. So even if he did work on the console updates, he couldn't tell you, as he has no say over when it could release. At least I think it's still a legal issue. I don't really pay attention to the console port.

[@pbsixgun6]

7daystodie.com/telltale-update/

[@okaybud977]

Any plans on bring learn by doing back?

[@charlesgeorge9701]

Increasing skill by doing like in previous versions should be brought back. That or greatly increase exp gains for mining, crafting etc. Right now to become a better miner you need to kill a bunch of zombies, how does that make sense? Exp for killing a single zombie is equal to like 5 minutes of mining.

[@Nakihashi]

I disagree. Not only did I not like the "sit around and make 400 stone axes to level my crafting skill" mechanic, but I level up way faster when I mine than I ever have by killing zombies. I run a server with several friends and they all have way more time to play than I do, and I am still the highest level on the server because I mine huge underground bunkers and tunnels at night time. If you're not getting enough experience from mining then you aren't mining enough.

[@piercedwolfkarma42]

A restat for later game would be nice. Picking points is more stressful than getting ready for horde night.

[@bra5081]

did you notice how easy it is to survive horde night now?

[@Behmal]

I am eagerly awaiting the day we get Slingshots in game. Starting with a stick and rubber-band, and upgradeable to a semi-auto with scope and being able to launch explosives. LOL. Great work so far, keep it up!

[@Messiah114]

I love how they keep updating the game, its great.

[@Fitted5hundreds]

Messiah the game has been in alpha for 5 years 💀

[@tomahawkwoodwork6683]

@@Fitted5hundreds so?

[@RSMRSHK]

love the new graphics and designs! really hyped about the new perks too! all in all im really hyped about the new alpha :) i just wanna play it right now :D really love the changes :3 you are doing a nice job thanks for that!

[@Cross_111]

Music is a bit weird ^^ But these perk changes...really good 😍

[@LocSec]

Yeah, I can't say I'm into the music. Maybe only the last couple of hours before The Horde hits and during, but not all the time

[@lojzalojzovic9519]

true , i would rather some weather effects - like sound of wind , intense rain , maybe some birds ,...

[@LocSec]

@@lojzalojzovic9519 Yep, I agree with you man. Environmental sounds. I want the environment to feel naturally creepy, not forced. When they force creepy into a game that just isn't, it ends up feeling cheesy.

[@Cross_111]

@@lojzalojzovic9519 try empyrion galactic survival Its actually a far better survival game (if you like a bit of scifi)

[@RollandMatthewWeber]

Heyo, Madmole. Lookin great! New textures are pretty damn impressive, and the perk system seems like it's going to play pretty well. All in all, A17 is impressive but A18 has me very excited. Thanks for sharing!

[@jontarnasky5770]

Xbox needs updates... So many people want it, start a Kickstarter for whatever legal funds you need

[@callumlyons7905]

money may be the issue but there are a few major issues with getting the rights to the game properly back

[@lumberjack5726]

@@callumlyons7905 the rights to the game that ttg had went up for auction. Many other developers have gotten their game rights back for console. But we have not even received a real update.

[@kalebmelendez1168]

callum lyons that was a couple months ago and other companies got there rights back a LONG time ago

[@kalebmelendez1168]

lumber jack it’s annoying as hell

[@Aronre]

Good job joel, looks amazing and cant wait for aplha 18 now

[@o-beefyy2754]

New content is cool, but what about performance and optimization?

[@cornytheman]

Hope it comes after 18 content realized but prob half a year or and if summer sadly.

[@MrDuncanDonut]

The reason why my friends and I stopped playing the game. We stopped just after Alpha 17 was released as game performance was terrible. About time the Fun Pimps stopped messing around with Perks etc and concentrate on Optimization.

[@cornytheman]

@@MrDuncanDonut yeah agree its annoying but the game itself is cool i just want more items around, becus it gets dull after a few reruns u know. amazing start or not u find ureself stuck at forge making and zombie clearing

[@yeahboiii6640]

They did fix it recently. When 17 came out I would go to 5 FPS in every building but since 17.4 it is smooth as butter with no drops at all except obviously with a S ton of zeds...but they can't do anything about that since their engine tracks all zeds on the CPU!

[@CamoesGamer]

Looks good! I'm glad that there isn't any more more level gating. And I like the vehicle mods talk for a19

[@eatingpringles]

Does the team like Pringles?

[@Universal.G]

Will you guys be implementing sidewalks? Would make the game look more realistic.

[@justinc2633]

and painted roads instead of just blank empty roads

[@Leo4sox]

perk system reworked version 4,657... just make your mind up guys lol stop re working this and that just make a decision stick with it and move forward.

[@wolfmomg]

Thanks for the update. love the new look of the roads.

[@danielkatzman3406]

What about bandits are they coming in alpha 18?

[@gabrielholes4642]

Daniel Katzman no they are postponed

[@j.mangum7652]

@@gabrielholes4642 Again...:(

[@rekozma]

Thank you for making a sweet game even better. Looks like it's time to upgrade the old gaming pc and get back into 7d2d.

[@steve3386]

You should put some sort of sword in the game. Maybe a katana or a Roman gladius

[@mattvoelker241]

I''d be fine with that. Not sure about a gladius or katana though. Something that looks like it was smithed at the forge. A katana would be a max-smithing thing, though I still wouldn't care for it.

[@xPumaFangx]

Katanas are gay.

[@mikestrouse]

Lol maybe a katana like a named weapon. Not a forged item. However adding sharpened scrap iron/ forged steel as a sword would be nice.

[@xPumaFangx]

@@mikestrouse don't you think that Katanas are a little cliche? I mean I am perfectly OK with a sword in this game. Just that katanas do not really fit in the PA genre. Maybe a machete. Would be a better fit.

[@MbBadd]

@@xPumaFangx You can already craft a machete

[@conniee.]

Thanks Joel, on info of the new alpha. 👍🏾 Very interesting the new perks it makes them more simplified. Can't wait to see more of the A18 gameplay. Good on the music change, it'll make nice background music which the game was in need of. Btw, We can't paint our vehicles, I was hoping that would change in A18 or is that going to be for A19? 🧐 Can you please get rid of the silly bicycle horns for all the vehicles and put real horns? 🙄 Thanks for all ur hard work on this game. 👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@quinncalhoun7045]

Are y'all going get the rights back for console any time soon ?

[@Aired]

The Guinness World Record People Called, you're eligible for the longest alpha phase in the history of MMO's.

[@scyris99]

Last I checked 7dtd is not a mmorpg.

[@reiramiya8805]

Thank you for the update! 💖

[@branchcore]

Still nothing for consoles 😢

[@reiramiya8805]

branchcore True. 😭

[@branchcore]

@@reiramiya8805 I live vicariously through crackpot texas lol.

[@SavageFoxProductions]

Please try and work on console updates I really love the game but wishing there was more like different buildings and map bioms

[@Quaicon]

The Console Version was given to another publisher and is meanwhile completely independent form the PC version and is not going to be updated if the publisher doesn t work out something with FunPimps ... but I guess thats most likely not going to happen that easy

[@devontemcdaniel002]

Him talking and the music kicking in had me scrolling through my phone cause I thought a random ad opened 🤣🤣

[@mycelex]

Looking good! Damn, we have come a long way!