7 Dead iRacing Series: Why does nobody run them?

[@RustyDroid]

I think Stock Car Brasil specifically has an additional problem that you didn't touch on--it just doesn't have any of its own real-world circuits to run on. There is ONE South American circuit on iracing, period. That's just not enough for the people who could instead go to Automobilista 2 or even 1 and race most of the SCB calendar.

[@callummclachlan4771]

Or Stock Car Extreme which has the whole season. Maybe a little old, but it has all the tracks. I'm also not sure how Supercars is in iracing. But only having 5 tracks, one of which is now gone doesn't appeal to me. Not when I can get all the tracks in Assetto Corsa or rfactor 2. AC also has the benefit of being able to race on lesser known tracks.

[@MattDiffey]

@@callummclachlan4771 Stock Car Extreme just became Automobilista 1 - they rebranded it in one of the updates

[@Nahue7253]

That's why they should add Termas de Río Hondo (Argentina). It's a well known track and it fits every type of racing

[@IOwnCalculus]

I was all about the Mission R until I watched a few people streaming it and realized that sound was going to absolutely drive me up the wall.

[@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames]

The car is brilliant and I’ll die on this hill. The problem for me is that the one thing that makes it excellent, that makes it stand out from its compatriots, is the qualifying mode. This makes it one of the most unique/fastes tin tops on the service and you can’t race with it in this mode. It’s criminal.

[@alec7568]

Yeah that bothers me too.

[@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames]

@@sepporu I really don’t agree. If you don’t like it, it doesn’t mean it’s bad.

[@BigFatCock0]

You get used to it. Watch some Formula E to acquire the taste.

[@joelmichels5564]

i kinda like the car but gives me tinnitus...

[@OjamaLemon]

Im a sprint car and silver crown regular, and while it hurts me that the series dont get that much love, we've created such a great and tight knit community that it really doesnt matter that we dont do C-Fixed numbers

[@MxneyyyyGaming]

I'm definitely trying to get to B class and run the silver crowns because they look like soooo much fun

[@kevincorbat7084]

When I raced iracing I made it a point to run silver crowns, y'all have a great community and those cars on bigger tracks are so much fun cause it reminds me of how the cars ran in NR4 back in the day. Whenever I decide to come back it's going to be my regular series

[@justinbevier8231]

I might have to pickup the sprints.

[@flare2000x]

I'm not an iracer but what could be cool for iRacing to do would be to have a "variety" series where both the cars and tracks both change throughout the weeks, but you get to drive that series without necessarily owning the content. It would give a lot of attention to some of these less common cars and tracks that could be really fun to race on if you could only get a full grid.

[@Kpaxlol]

Too blind from greed to see that

[@LanceWolfe]

Yeah, having some way to test stuff out and experiment without the financial investment would be great

[@TractionCircleSimRacing]

@@KpaxlolGreed? iRacing was almost twice as expensive in 2008 and John Henry put his own money into it for years to keep it going.

[@Maverik770]

I was super interested in the Stock Car Brasil series and was planning to buy into it as my primary road series until I realized how dead the series is. Yes, the car's visibility sucks but I really think it's blown out of proportion. As an oval racer, I personally love stock car racing on road courses and it's hard to find good online multiplayer racing for it so that series sounded very appealing. But I really think it's the skill of the car that killed it, combined with low recognition and iRacing failing to expand the tracks to actually include more circuits from the real Brasil tour in the series. I drive the Stock Car Brasil cars offline in an AI championship in AMS2 and it is so much fun. It requires throttle control, constantly paying attention, brake modulating, etc. You can't just go throw it around tracks with minimal practice like a GT4/GT3 car and I think that's where it loses people's interests. It's a "slower" car that requires a lot of skill to constantly maintain and that is just not a big "fun factor" for most people. Toss in low recognition, lack of real world tracks, bad cockpit visibility and it was clearly doomed... I also love Dirt Road (rally and trucks) and really want to see iRacing expand content there to hopefully bring in more people. I'm tired of the constant focus for GT3/GT4 and Formula content. I know it's the popular stuff these days but ugh, it's so overdone and boring to me now. At least we're getting some exciting new oval content this season!

[@MxneyyyyGaming]

I'm planning on getting the car to run it with my buddy. Still hoping to see the series somewhat active one day

[@Maverik770]

@MxneyyyyGaming Same. I just keep hoping they will make it a free car. I think the series would see some decent participation then. It's really hard to find race sessions in the evening hours of the US for most Road Series. The only Road Series that stay popular past EU evening hours are the Rookie classes and GT3/GT4 and the F4/Super Formula Series. I'm really not into those cars and every other Road Series is a ghost town by 10 or 11pm Eastern time, which is when I race the most. So, sadly Road Racing isn't very viable for me on iRacing unless I want to run the Mazda, GR86, Formula Vee, Ray, GT3/GT4, F4, Super Formula. All other series are pretty dead outside of prime time EU hours.

[@MxneyyyyGaming]

@@Maverik770 yeah I noticed that. Definitely would love to see more activity on the road side of things

[@NolanRempel]

Do give an idea of how quickly the Formula IR Series died off: When I was covering RaceSpotTV's Friday Night Primetime and we covered the first EVER season with those cars, we had 2 full splits on the first week. By week 8 in a 12 week season, we were lucky if we broke double digits.

[@andrewwhite2863]

When it comes to real life Short Course Truck racing "SCT". It's hard to judge popularity with the lack of TV coverage. But when it comes to Trophy trucks and desert racing they are very popular on the west coast. It's more of a regional racing series.

[@coletrudo]

I don’t play iracing at all, but I really like these videos they are super interesting for some reason. I thought the video about the fastest lap time(sub 10 seconds or something?) was great!

[@DJYeeJay]

I appreciate that man! One of my big hopes is to make iracing more fun and accessible to everyone

[@brettaedwards]

The asphalt Sprint Car and the Silver Crown are a good study in how to handle a less populated series. They have organised themselves in to running at the same time slots each week, have setups that are competitive against the main pack of drivers, and have regulars who are willing to help newcomers get to terms with the car. If some of the other series that struggle to get a race up followed their lead they may just find a decent following, even if it's only once or twice a week. Better that than to completely waste what you paid for.

[@rosscrashtain]

As soon as the Mission R was announced, I guessed on Reddit that it would be dead within a week, namely because it's electric and most car guys aren't super fond of EVs It's a shame the ir-01 isn't more popular, it's so fun and an absolute riot to drive

[@ValiantValium]

I dont think anyone races the Stock Car Brasil in iRacing, because its cheaper and overall better to do it in Automobilista.

[@scrambla01500]

I wish people would give the Pro Trucks a better chance. Yes, they are difficult but it only takes time and effort to learn just like any other vehicle. The Pro 2's are insanely fun when driving door to door, lap after lap, and giving a small nudge every now and then. Such a rewarding feeling to get the lap down properly, especially while racing others. Thank you for the video!

[@LanceWolfe]

What iRacing needs to do is take their Pro 2 trucks and give us Stadium Super Trucks. STT drive on tracks we already have and are very similar to Pro 2.

[@Acceler23]

i have to defend Stock car here, im not in pc, but i can say, iRacing is expensive for most brazilians, and we have Automobilista, that is a BR simulatior mainly for brazilian categories

[@xnotasweatx]

That is a valid point

[@brianeast11]

I will say, Having driven the Stock Car in both I do prefer how it drives in Automobilista, plus having all the Brazilian tracks to go with it is another plus.

[@willlive6845]

I’ve said this before, the dead series need to be made into unranked multiclass races. That way people can race different cars with out worrying about having to do hours of practice and ruining your safety or irating.

[@hoserhosfelt]

That be so gnarly.

[@mrj3217]

Yes, yes, yes. Like week 13 racing. I wish they would have longer races like that.

[@virtualstatic]

I was so excited to finally be able to move to B rank oval so i could race the silver crown cars, even purchased the car to run laps with in test drive. Really bummed that its practically a dead series, the car is pretty fun to drive.

[@theseanie9958]

i figured the rookie dirt legends just got bad participation because when someone goes to check dirt ovals out, street stocks seem more familiar and already has a larger participation, so people are going to go for that for those factors before even knowing how the legends drive

[@DJYeeJay]

Ya that + open set is rough for it

[@aaronthomas6155]

There is no rookie dirt legends, which might be part of the problem. Maybe if there was, as well as a fixed setup, the Dirt Legends would see more participation. As a former real world dirt racer, I thought I'd enjoy dirt racing on a simulator. Turns out, dirt racing in real life is actually much easier than on a simulator and also much more enjoyable.

[@orionexplorer]

I'm a roadie from the word go. With that said I have raced and run oval track racing as well. I really enjoyed the Silver Crown, though when I was a teenager in the 70's they were called USAC Dirt Champ Cars. The car that we have in iRacing was an attempt to have a dirt track car and a special chassis for the asphalt races. Dirt track races are run by teams who basically run on a shoestring budget. That car did not take off and all of the real-world teams continued to run their dirt cars on asphalt. Now if you can get a good setup and PRACTICE, you can have a ton of fun in these cars.

[@MrAeroHD]

I'm a big dirt road guy but yeah, the Pro 2 opens are a pain. The Pro 2 itself is one of the most fun Dirt Road cars to drive imo when you figure it out, but trying to track down a setup to run the open series just doesn't make sense especially when there's a fixed series. Dirt road in general is incredibly underrated in the service. The supercars in rallycross need some work but the trucks are a hoot and fun to try and master, whether thats Lite, Pro 2 or Pro 4. I think the tracks being pretty bespoke and not able to be used by anything other than the trucks that race there hurt it a lot too. If you buy a road or oval tarmac track you can drive basically anything there, and dirt oval has more disciplines than dirt road. Also road racers might not want to buy stuff like Iowa just for the rallycross layout to run a full season.

[@DJYeeJay]

Yeah dirt road does feel very isolated unfortunately. I mess around at Wild West sometimes and it’s very fun

[@WaskiLP]

Mission Rs biggest problem isnt the sound. Just turn the engine volume down in the settings. It doesnt give you any feedback anyways due to the lack of gears. The worst thing is the driving itself. That you have to basically learn two cars with the quali/race mode and the fact that it drives awfully with its AWD compared to the PCUp which is its direct competition.

[@DJYeeJay]

Interesting! I never ended up buying the car but it seems a lot of people don’t like how it drives

[@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames]

That’s what makes it good. The fact that it is a completely different experience that forces us to learn new ways of driving. If we’re getting different cars I’m not going to moan about it being different. The quali mode is an absolute blast, coupled with the AWD, you can really have fun sliding it around on the limit. You should be able to do sprint races with the quali mode and iRacing are missing something with that. Having an option to make a car that exciting but limit it to two laps by yourself, is madness at best.

[@themrwinston9570]

i dont have iracing, but that dirt road series looked like a blast

[@precesionnoreaster1507]

Its honestly so surprising to me that silver crowns don't rival indycar

[@zanetti20]

Silver crown and sprint cup are awesome to drive.

[@catalone3548]

Nice video maybe it brings some people into trying these series. Tracy

[@DJYeeJay]

I hope to join you soon!

[@bobby6715]

Dirt legends just kinda... doesn't exist in most parts of the US. That and they drive very weirdly to be honest. Street stocks are just the more fun and popular route

[@LlamaFIL]

I love asphalt short track racing and really wanted to be able to race pavement sprints when I was subbed but being outside the usa made that impossible. I'd have to be racing at 2am.

[@Bobbarker23455]

Ppl need to try the silver crown and sprint cars series, really fun but hard to drive.

[@mrj3217]

They are fun but you also need to use restraint, and respect this community is very good. Respectful racers who will help you with the car too. It's fun.

[@aaronloos6673]

I really loved the Mission R series, just tweak the engine sound a bit. As a electric radio control enthusiast I was really looking forward to seeing what setup could be done with the electronics like drag brake, coast, and recovery modes.

Great video and I think iRacing staff can take a couple of notes from here. IMHO, to me there's three main reasons a series is popular: - Car(s) is(are) easy to learn, fun to drive and permissive. - Car(s) and tracks encourages car to car battles (it's not usual to see a popular series dwindling in participation when the schedule hits a "boring" or "unfit" track). - Schedule don't clash with another and more popular series. Let's remember the fact that Mercedes-AMG's 2021 F1 car was the most fastest sold car ever in iRacing, yet its series' participation went downards massively since its first season (even I bought this and never raced it :D ).

[@Fivecorr]

The IR-01 always has an official race. Sundays 12gmt. The last time we didn't have one was during the 24h Daytona weekend bcoz most participated in that event. The car was also C Class for the last 12 month. And in a few hour iRacing will finially kill the car by turning it into some weird Indycar replacement. Noone of the regulars wanted that change but iRacing doesn't care when it comes to the IR-01

[@miamifinsfan]

The GT series with the C6 Corvette is a hard one to get to go official also

[@PoshPenguino]

That series has its own discord who look to organise weekly SOF races

[@SW_Racing]

we race thursdays and sundays at 19:45 GMT

[@CreegzInCanada]

I am disappointed the Mission R isn't more popular because it's quite fun to drive, and it's a very different experience than an ICE car.

[@DanTheCaptain]

Do you still have your ear drums and sanity intact?

[@CreegzInCanada]

@@DanTheCaptain both confirmed to be in working order.

[@mro9466]

Of all the Porsche cars that exists, this is probably the last thing I would want to experience, in a sim or in real life. Soulless pile of c-

[@CreegzInCanada]

@@mro9466 L take my dude. It’s a fun car to drive.

[@fishnov]

I enjoy the Porsche, and the sound is fine. Masks the tinnitus quite well. I know the sound does put some off, but it drives so different maybe that isn't helpful either.

[@TSPANGLEDBANNA]

I cannot believe the Brazilian stock stocks get such low participation. The cars are badass, the schedule is badass, and the racing is badass

[@tylerstooksbury3050]

The Mission R car is SO much fun. I wish people would race in that series.

[@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames]

It’s crazy how people ignore a good car for superficial reasons. There’s no such thing as a bad car on iRacing; just cars people struggle to learn

[@julianturberfield7101]

If it wasn't tinnitus inducingly awful to listen to I'd consider it for more than a couple minutes.

[@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames]

@@julianturberfield7101 see, that’s the problem. You’re clearly bias. You’re ignoring a good car because it’s electric. It’s genuinely a fun car to mess around in, especially the quali mode. It’s the most unique tin top on the service and people don’t give it the time to get good in it because they’re pre-disposed to hate it. It’s a sim, they are all electric.

[@tylerstooksbury3050]

@@julianturberfield7101 I got used to it in about 10 minutes. Not saying that’s the same for others, but it’s really not that bad.

[@baronedan22]

Great vid!! One questions no love for NASCAR full/half race series? It is C class with a A license material

[@bradyhill2136]

As a mostly dirt oval racer. The dirt legends just aren’t fun to drive for me when there’s other options. I’d much rather run the street stocks or 305s

[@slipangle3027]

Shame that the trophy trucks don't get much love, they're a lot of fun to drive.

[@beanslinger3944]

Zomg right!? And not just pro-2 lite, pro2 and pro4 are also a lot of fun

[@samdajellybeenie14]

It's such a shame because the Pro 2 trucks are SO FUN to drive. Big learning curve for me at least, but they're great. I wish more people would drive them. Also people who complain about a series being open setup need to just ask the people that run it if they'd be willing to share a setup with them. When I used to race the C class legends, guys would share setups they're working on, all you had to do was ask.

[@DJYeeJay]

Yep it seems with most low pop series there are always setups to use. People just want to grow the series

[@snafu114]

I don't mind driving the Brazilian stock cars, i mostly just time trial them, I think the heat format is off putting as well. Plus i think the tyres are bugged. The first set are very slippery, but once you get some heat into them and reset your car they seem to perform much better.

[@tommynott4310]

I think mission R could have been good if the series ran limited electric power so you actually had to lift, coast and recharge rather than just run flat out all the time. It made no sense to run a battery powered car with the battery having part to play

[@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames]

They should have gone the other way and made quali mode available in races.

[@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames]

I’m not saying you’re wrong by the way. It’s a massively underrated car that people ignore because it’s electric while forgetting that, technically, they all are.

[@superninja252]

I feel weird for like the Mission R motor sound, at least it sounds like a RC car unlike some eletric cars THAT DONT HAVE ANY SOUND AT ALL

[@kekke2000]

I would love to race the Mission R more. I raced it a lot when it was new and got a bit more people. If I knew I could sign up and do an official race in the Mission R any given time slot. i would be there pretty much every week. It is a bit weird that people complain about the sound. It's electric, of course it's going to sound electric.

[@JSmith73]

The sound is pretty hard on the ears compared to that of a Tesla, for one (my daily drive). Also it doesn't help that we can't adjust volume per car type.

[@Daz5Daz]

It actually gives me a headache so I stopped running it.

[@itspete4417]

I would run the last series you talked about with dirt oval, but its open set. WHYYYYYY

[@vjollila96]

remember when rallyX was added? everyone was running it for a while good times now whole thing is dead

[@DJYeeJay]

Maybe revamped dirt physics will help it

[@vjollila96]

@@DJYeeJay I stopped racing them because I just kinda lost interest towards it just felt nice distraction for what I usually race

[@QSRSimulations]

The mission R is a ton of fun to drive it feels like a go Kart, really wish it had a following

[@marcusmiller8267]

I was really looking forward to the Brazil Stock Cars. I have seen them on Motorsport TV, and they are a very competitive and exciting brand of racing. I thought the cars handled just fine, though I think a move to fixed setups would have boosted the series. I remember all the whining when fixed setups were introduced to NASCAR series. But some people want to compete on a level playing field and have no interest in learning automotive engineering, they just wanna race.

[@leonn1196]

Great Video, very interesting, thank you!

[@EvanGleaton]

I just started doing dirt road and I quickly noticed the lack of people.

[@totenwache88]

even with the outdated tire model, i still recommend the usac pavement cars because they teach you how to make a pass without running people over (patience and racecraft), which is the opposite of what you typically see with fendered cars coming through the ranks (like late models) the numbers were getting pretty good for both awhile ago during the pandemic, but if theyre falling again, im tempted to come back. one of my best experiences in the sim

[@DJYeeJay]

From what I’ve seen they have a great community reminds me of the Kamel GT community

[@totenwache88]

@@DJYeeJay yes I miss racing with them weekly tbh

[@Flatworlder]

I really enjoy the silver crowns whenever I can get a race to go official

[@cbremer83]

I like the Pro2 trucks. I hop in them once in a while. Been in a few good races where the whole field ran nearly identical qualifying times. The contact penalties are a little more forgiving too. So you can bang fenders a bit and nobody crashes and no safety rating hits.

[@LanceWolfe]

One aspect that you didn't mention that I think hurts a lot of series, is the cost associated with getting into a new series. It's a lot of financial risk to test out a series you're interested in but might not turn out to be your jam. So people go to what they know and what's popular instead of experimenting

[@RyleyRyedawg]

mission R was screwed from the goofy qualifying mode they gave it. Making you have to learn 2 breaking points for every turn was not fun. on top of that having to then drive around all the people who only practiced quali mode and not race mode and then they would drive like clowns trying to get by you. this car has so many gimmicks its not a shock it was DOA after week 3. We joined a league for these cars and had a blast in it. but 1 season was more than enough.

[@DJYeeJay]

Ah makes sense someone else on me discord was also just talking about that. Seems like realism sometimes hurts the overall gaming experience

[@darthlatitude2105]

What qualifying was it? I ran these back when it was at Road America and never had this happen

[@RyleyRyedawg]

@@darthlatitude2105 race mode and Q mode difference is like 300 extra Horse power

[@alec7568]

I hope I can see more people get in to dirt road at some point. I love tallycross but I can only get races with the slower rookie and d class beetle.

[@DiodeMilliampere]

I am ( or used to be?) a regular in the lotus 49 series. I say used to be because they have the broadcast race at 7:30 in the morning on a Saturday. For anybody that is not Australian or European, it's a pretty bad time to have an important race that you might want to get other people to watch. 7:30 in the morning on a Saturday might as well be the moon in terms of time slots that people are watching stuff. It's also absolutely miserable to wake up early on Saturday morning , every week into infinity just to participate in the strength of field race. After a certain point, I have to ask myself if I really want a sacrifice every other leisurely aspect of my Saturday morning for one race. One race that I might not even make it through one lap of, because I'm too slow to get past the idiots in the midpack. The old excuse that I always get is that it's because most of the participants are European and Australian. I wonder why that is? It surely couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the North American drivers, the broadcast race is at 7:30 a.m. on a freaking Saturday ? Youd think that even for one season they could change it up out of courtesy for the people that have been getting the shaft by this awkward time slot, but apparently that is just too much to ask. I've asked many times over the years and they always say no.

[@DJYeeJay]

Yeah when a series boils down to a single timeslot its just impossible to make it work for everyone in the world. Oval series face the same issues with Europeans, they pretty much can only run the traditional nascar pipeline with the timeslots they run

[@bjarulez]

The dirt sprint car is nice to drive in my opinion, the rookie lobbies don't get enough people

[@VitorShadowSouza]

As brazilian, everyone expected our Stock Car to flop. The reasons are various: >The cars are actually overepresented in video-games. You can play it with the full package (tracks, drivers, specific rules, etc) for less money in other places. >iRacing only have one track that really suits the cars (Interlagos). >iRacing can be really expensive for a average brazilian, so we have to be very cautious in what we buy, only paying for things that will be used like all the time to avoid throw money away. (even Interlagos is barely used in other races making it a no buy). >Our very own community don't care that much about the series, they will prefer to play with oval cars or GT3s at any time.

[@falconeye577]

ok, James Falcon Pratt here, a 10+ yr member Let PLAY this video The Sprint Car is VERY Hard to Drive and has Never done well The Silver Crown is GREAT Fun, just many don't even try it Later

[@grahamhuffmanracing]

I think it really sucks with the sprint cars because they are the most fun car to drive when you actually get some practice in and have a good group to race with

[@pkscarr]

in a way, i actually like these very low participation series. Sure, there's not a huge following and you wont see any big names in there or streaming, but you tend to find a group of regulars and race against them a lot, to the point you can learn how they all drive and get some really good fun races and chat with a usually much more relaxed and open community than you'll generally find in the more competitive series. It just often feels like a different vibe of racing which can be a nice break

[@lakaiskates8064]

I can see that for sure. Most the GT3/4 series is full of complete dickheads who have no race etiquette. If you are a little off-pace and you don't get out of their way yesterday, they'll just drive thru you for the most part.

[@camracing1366]

I’ve only done a handful of laps in a dirt legend car I probably sucked but it’s really really fun and would definitely be interested in running a few races in the future

[@geofframsey9193]

The legends cars in general are a stop gap in both dirt and asphalt. They’re much more satisfying than the street stock series… sometimes because of the cars, sometimes because of the quality of competitors…. But the second you get to race a 305/modified/arca/sk modified you can write of the series to the few dedicated participants.

[@aaronthomas6155]

I've run a handful of rookie legends races and there were plenty of drivers with higher licenses in them. From what I've seen of street stock, it's mostly full of people that have never been on a racing simulator before. Admittedly, I'm probably one of the slowest drivers in street stock, but I got wrecked more times in street stock in 1 race, than I did in all of the legends races I've run, combined. It's just not a fun class if you're trying to build up your SR to get promoted.

[@gameplaycast]

while not wrong, id wager a large amount that iracings laser tracks and cars are THE ONLY reason people PAY more then WOW(world of warcraft) to play it. it just wouldn't be worth it otherwise.

[@EiQ200]

Missing Lotus 49 and Audi GTO in this list. Nice video.

[@ps1racingchallenge145]

As iRacing customers we're in a curious position where we are not just the customer, but a part of the product too. Series participation will influence a car purchase as much as any other factor for many people. It means unpopular series get caught in a catch 22 where no-one will try the series because nobody is already there racing it. I was curious to try the Mission R when it came out but was sure the series wasn't going to have participation for long so didn't make the purchase. When enough people behave like this, we cause the flop we're wary of. Another thing that stops me buying cars is simply because I don't have enough time to race them all. Series bloat can be a real issue that divides up the community when it's high participation that provides close splits.

[@halliwell_fc]

Another silly thing that makes a series less playable by the people is the bad schedules that some series have. F.ex. the Gen 4 Cup and the Nascar Cup Series use the same race time schedule with one race every 2 hours, instead of putting f.ex. the A class Nascar at One hour and the Gen 4 cup the next hour.

[@GamersHolyArmy]

I really wish the iR-01 didn't get fucked like it did, I want more fictional cars and/or tracks in iRacing and both the iR-01 and Coca-Cola/iRacing Superspeedway failing really takes that potential away unless FIRST decides to make a track editor which I don't see them doing in a long time if at all.

[@russnelson8867]

I was all hyped to do my first B-class road series and chose the FR3.5 just because they'd dropped the FR2.0. The series didn't go official enough to complete 8 races (even although a couple of times I stayed up really late to try the European guys.) Demanding car, though. I like it.

[@walbark7376]

Used silver crowns once on iracing and thought they were the funnest cars just being able to go around Phoenix at 180 was fun af

[@andybiz4273]

The moment I got in the Stock Car Brazil vehicle, I was like "I can't see a dang thing, so much for this car", which is a shame. Mission R, agree with the sound, though I can tone it out a bit.

[@Daz5Daz]

I'd add the Classic Lotus Grand Prix as a dead series. I don't recall ever joining a race that went official.

[@RedSliceGaming34]

Dirt Road has alot more participation through leagues, leagues have pretty much formed their own "Pro series" and a "rookie series" It dont help we only have 5 tracks to rotate over a 12 week coure.

[@MJY5drives]

I know the Stock Car brazil doesn't have the best line of site but it's still easy to tell that it's Interlagos unless you just don't know Interlagos whatsoever. Yes, I am trying to make an excuse to stick up for Stock Car Brazil lol

[@elgroxo]

Stockcar Brasil is dead because of the lack of regional prices for cars/tracks, it cost a TON of money to race that in south america.

[@skittlecar1]

The Mission R killed my braking foot. With no transmission to help slow down you have to be so hard on the brake. And it's All Wheel Drive so it's got a ton of understeer. It became my least favorite car to drive.

[@4_14_fan]

I think one of the biggest reasons nobody runs the Brazilian stock cars is because iracing falsely says the races are 4 hours when in reality the races are only 15 minutes long.

[@Proto59]

I love short course offroad racing. Sad to see such low participation every week in Pro-2. Driving a Pro-2 truck makes you feel like Jimmie Johnson vs. Jeff Gordon 2011 Atlanta.

[@willviola1894]

You should do this with dead tracks

[@DJYeeJay]

I have another forgotten iracing track video on the list to do soon!

[@kem0n0.kokomo]

@@DJYeeJay Stafford comes to mind.. My recent memory doesn't recall seeing any oval series with it. Part of the reason I assume being that it's INCREDIBLY outdated and iR has yet to rectify that, e.g. it doesn't have lights. The light poles are physically modeled, but they don't actually come on at night lol After Virginia International's update, I think Stafford might actually be the oldest and most out-of-date track on the service.

[@samulation5047]

i race dirt sprints cars from time to time

[@timharris7303]

I'll be doing dirt legends if it's a dead rookie class. An easy way to get out of rookies is what I'm seeing here.

[@ericpuschinsky6473]

I think the biggest issue for dirt legends is that unless you have a good setup you cant be competitive, and even though it is a Rookie series it actually doesn't run many free tracks which also hurts participation.

[@timharris7303]

@Eric Puschinsky I'm joining IRacing for the dirt racing so I plan on getting a few tracks. Would it be a smart play to run my dirt rookie season through legends over street stocks?

[@timharris7303]

@Eric Puschinsky I'm starting out as a new driver coming from console. Been doing alot of research on the platform as a whole. And understand Rookies is more of an idiot test more than it is a skill test.

[@zanetti20]

The biggest problem that I've seen is the regulars drive like idiots

[@aaronthomas6155]

@@timharris7303 There isn't actually a rookie dirt legends....but since getting out of rookie quickly depends on participation and safety rating, it's both an idiot and skill test. You have to prove you can get around the track without wrecking yourself or someone else.....while not getting wrecked by the idiots. I should have been out of rookie class by now, but the idiots in rookie classes can't stand to pass or get passed without running into whoever they're passing or getting passed by.

[@emill910]

The Mission R is probably the only car I regret buying

[@stephenthompson5459]

5:10 I know it's subjective but Silver Crowns and Asphalt sprints have a huge following in the Midwest and regionally in the Eastern and Southern U.S. Although it doesn't change the fact that they are a dead series 😅

[@Corky3D]

If we got an actual silver crown I think that'd help some. The car we have now which is not a silver crown is thankfully dead in real life and didn't lost long at all. Although there are some people running them in road courses today in real life.

[@603LostRoads]

I race in the Brazilian Stock cars. Got 2 wins last season just so difficult to get any participation. Seems it only sees officials Mayne once a day around 245pm or 445pm other than that nothing.

[@WRYT679]

Indiana has a huge asphalt sprint car following, but its still not enough to go official

[@Hustler9g]

It's a shame about pro 2 trucks because off-road trucks are really fun and the pro 2 is super rewarding to learn

[@renanlopes9400]

About the mission R: Because the series doesn't exist in real life.

[@kukuc96]

Notably missing is the Aussie supercar series, that's also pretty dead nowdays.

[@JeremyLeech]

I’ve tried racing in the dirt midgets lately and had at least 2 sessions not go official

[@vjollila96]

didnt knew that dirt legends was a thing

[@dustypilgrimmedia8423]

The ir01 and pavement sprint are probably the 2 most fun cars

[@GarrettDrifts]

Im the most disappointed in the Brazil stock cars. I bought it when it came out and literally not once did it go official in EST time zones. Sad because the push to pass on that car is SO FUN

[@NR_88]

Coming from someone who is pretty trigger happy when it comes to iracing purchases (I own the 2 Mercedes f1 cars even though I can’t race them), even I saw right through the Mission R. Kinda cool concept but either A) the novelty would wear off, B) that races would be shit shows like formula e, or C) the noise would be horrendous. But from what I’ve heard it’s not that bad so maybe one day I’ll give it a try.

[@thatextraguy21]

I was lucky enough to complete the one season of the Porsche Mission R on release to make it worthwhile. Sound wasn't a really big factor for me though, more to do with how it drives.

[@hwan5620]

Very late I know but I’m not sure if anyone said it yet but the reason the dirt legends is “dead” is for the reason that it isn’t a rookie race as it needs a 3.0 license which once met will make you a D class driver. Not sure if it’s still the. Case though.

[@felipedacruz89]

Hot take: If I were iRacing I would cut off both dirt and dirt oval categories. That would free up so much development time and both road/oval would heavily benefit from this. Imagine having multi-core CPU support implemented for example...

[@LithFox]

Stock Car Brasil suffers from not having NDM. NDM has a better collision model, so you can lean on other cars a little bit more without getting sucked into each other/causing weird FFB effects. These cars are more like TCR in how people race em. And unlike TCR, no NDM. Silver Crown just died after an update to it made it too easy, and then it was made hard again (I think? It's been a bit) and it remains dead. Mission R suffers from "Everyone who Likes the Mission R thinks no one likes the Mission R" syndrome. (TLDR If they setup a time for a SOF race it'd actually be fairly popular) Dirt Trucks in general suffer from lack of NDM (again, weird impacts, sudden yeets if you hit a sideways car), and from Dirt itself not "digging in", This is just most dirt road content. And most dirt content in general. Dirt just feels like you're driving "on" dirt, not in it.

[@joshrebel00]

i would love to race silver crowns.

[@roddyeskew3909]

It's a shame that people hate the noise of the Mission R enough to not drive it. It doesn't bother me that much and I think the car is fun to drive.

[@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames]

It’s stupid isn’t it? It’s a fantastic car that has one of the most exciting quali modes (in terms of driving experience) and people are moaning because a virtual car is electric. THEY ALL ARE!

[@philipc2767]

I think the biggest issue with the Pro Trucks is track selection. I'm not buying the truck AND every track they run just to try it. The rookie series does the rallycross tracks, but once you get out of rookies, it's all the dedicated, dirt road tracks. Why not return to some of the rallycross tracks the Beetle runs? Daytona? Charlotte? Knockhill?? The trucks are much more fun than rallyrcoss (to me anyways), but no way I'm spending $100+ for the truck and a couple tracks.

[@FMecha]

Hot take: I fear the Garage 56 car, if it ever appears in iRacing, would end up in this list.