7 ‘Live Service’ Games that Died Extremely Fast, RIP: Part 2

'Live service' games continue to drop like flies. Here are seven more examples of living games that got shut down after mere months, or weeks, or in one instance, before the game was even released.
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[@GM_Darius]

That "Female Option: Coming Soon" from Ellen. Holy crap that was brutal. If the game wasn't dead, pretty it'd have been from that joke alone!

[@cautionnerds]

I damn near spit out my drink at that line

[@SimuLord]

Followed by her acting shocked at Rock Paper Shotgun's _much_ tamer joke!

[@MarkEmerAndersonII]

I was waiting for a peak Ellen Blue Joke, and she delivered!

[@Amaranthyne]

@@SimuLordRock, paper, shotgun had the bigger programming diss. Ellen cared more about technique.

[@DarylVanHumbeck]

I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything! That was brutal!

[@CJTerry]

Its almost as if live service games arent necessarily the way to go???? Whaaaaa

[@healsallwounds]

There's a place for SOME live service games, provided they offer a good experience at the outset and keep putting out decent content. The problem is that ALL these different game companies are trying to put out their own live service slop in an oversaturated market, often working in genres they're unfamiliar with and producing garbage as a result.

[@spencergwin9454]

@@healsallwoundsExactly. Not every game NEEDS to be live-service with micro transactions monetizing the gaming experience to hell

[@wahoodotwav]

​@@healsallwounds theres also the corporate mindset of "make as much money as possible the moment the deadline hits or you're out" being blanket applied to everything that gets made, but a lot of it definitely seems like oversaturation and inexperience yeah

[@hannarchy6554]

Almost as if a live service isn't zero-effort for infinite money, you actually need to spend a decent amount of time and money making it fun and stable and engaging before you can start in with the slot machines and season passes

[@kay_faraday]

FFXIV is a fascinating case study in live service games, starting off as a flop and eventually becoming one of the most popular MMORPGs on the market.

[@OptimusSledge]

So many people fall victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous of which is, ‘Never get involved in a land war in Asia,’ but only slightly less well-known is this: 'Never pay for a live service game.'

[@evil993]

That's right behind "never mess with America's boats," right?

[@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit]

*Laughs in Helldivers 2*

[@Steelmage99]

You can be pretty sure it is a scam, if it involves; -NFTs -Crypto currency -Nutritional supplements Should I add "Pre-orders for live-service games" or is that just most likely a bad investment instead of an outright scam?

[@RD-zx6py]

Inconceivable!

[@excalibur6246]

@@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuitWarframe is also a live service done right

[@brandonp7503]

Luke downloading the anime girl rhythm game is a cat looking his owner in the eye while pushing a full glass of water toward the edge of the table.

[@andrewbyrne2173]

Whilst Ellen is squeeing at the cat.

[@MadnessInLivingColor]

With “The Next Episode” playing in the background 😂

[@ScumDog420]

Gato malo lol

[@allentayoto7387]

I fr was never expecting to see a Love Live game to ever appear in an outside Xtra/Xbox list... EVER. AHAHAHAHAH I had a good minute or two just laughing my arse off the moment Honoka popped up.

[@PinkAgaricus]

Yup, the JPN server lasted a little under a year, and EN is closing next month. If that entry is about SIF2. Another game that's ending soon is Takt Op Symphony. The devs were very generous sending 2 in game mails that had 200 pulls and material boxes in them. Also, one fully broken "piece" and 2 maxed out ability/Stat increase equip cards. This game only lasted 8 months.

[@UnreasonableArticulo]

The Day Before was such a debacle that Steam stepped in to give everybody their money back. Considering what Steam usually lets companies get away with, with nobody getting refunds with play time over 2 hours, this was an extreme situation. The shady developers said they were going to take the money everyone spent on the game to pay off debts, even though they were not going to be continuing on with it. Only they foolishly said this before Steam had given them their profits, which Steam never ended up giving them, then they tried to take credit for Steam refunding people.

[@SimuLord]

Remember, kids, don't board the plane to South America until the check clears!

[@khamjaninja.]

​ @SimuLord so you're saying I _shouldn't_ have given them my kidney without getting a deposit?

[@SimuLord]

@@khamjaninja.Ehh, you've got another one, just don't fall for the same scam twice. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, I'm on a machine for the rest of my natural-born life.

[@DubberRucks]

What made me laugh was Fnatic in their statement claiming "we never took money off people" it didn't stop them from trying. 🤦‍♂️ 😂

[@manbaehr6754]

I wasn’t ACTUALLY stealing from you, I was ABOUT to steal from you🤦

[@healsallwounds]

"Hellsite formerly known as Twitter" is very appropriate. Next on the chopping block are Redfall, Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League and Skull & Bones. EDIT: And now, a year after its release, Redfall is dead and its developer, Arkane Austin, has been shuttered.

[@marybdrake1472]

And probably Foamstars too. It is a pretty fun, lighthearted experience, but I don't see it hanging around for too long.

[@healsallwounds]

@una1462 I hadn't even heard of Foamstars until you mentioned it. Talk about poor promotion.

[@mlampe86]

Hellside? What? Why?

[@CantankaGrin]

Is Redfall live service? I thought it was just really poor coop game.

[@marybdrake1472]

@@healsallwounds It was not well promoted at all. That's one reason why it's unlikely to be around long.

[@Jason_Bryant]

*Game publisher execs in 2003*: We need to make an MMO! Then players will keep giving us more money for the same game forever! *Game publishers in 2006*: Nevermind, World of Warcraft has cornered the market and players aren't going to pour money into several different MMOs *Game publishers in 2016*: We need to make a live service game! Then players will keep giving us more money for the same game forever!

[@Kris-wo4pj]

Too bad didnt figure out destiny and fortnite have live service market cornered.

[@aazelion5189]

@@Kris-wo4pj Destiny is trash

[@WickedRibbon]

Somewhere between 2006 and 2016 they also tried the same futile chase with MOBAs.

[@dahn57]

"Let's all laugh at an industry, that never learns anything, tee hee hee" 😉

[@TheForever206]

It may be trash but that doesnt take away from the fact that they carved out their own corner of the live service space.@@aazelion5189

[@xenogil180]

Why do I feel like Ellen's lore dump of Babylon's fall is accurate in every detail?

[@slimdim1]

From what I remember of playing the demo while I waited for Elden Ring to download, some of those things were in the game. So I'd assume it's all correct.

[@khamjaninja.]

I watched a KZbin clip of the ending at the time because I was curious about the bonkers plot, but had no will to play this awful game. Basically, the ending is: You reach the top of the tower and you fight God. God turns out to be a giant glowing naked woman, who's also the sun (?). God wants to make humans evolve into angels (?) So then you fight and kill God - but then God (the sun?) explodes and you're going to die, but then the actress Kate Beckinsdale flies in on angel wings to save you and then she turns into the (new?) sun. And everyone all lived happily ever after. Thanks to Kate Beckinsdale. (Seriously, the character looks exactly like Kate Beckinsdale, circa Underworld)

[@ka-mai]

Because it was probably read from wikipedia? Let's be honest here, none of OX team played it

[@minstrelofmoria]

Nurgle is from Warhammer 40K, though.

[@xenogil180]

What I mean is Ellen tends to be thorough with her research, not necessarily that she played@@ka-mai

[@TCRP117]

These games have got to be absolutely depressing to work on. Every boots-on-the-ground developer actively making them knows that they're going to tank. That they're being asked to make a nakedly predatory product at the whim of their publisher that thinks somehow they're going to be the company that gets aboard the already moving train of live service titles and not just plant face first and join the dozens of others littering the tracks. Knowing the brutal reality of the workload forced upon these developers in service of a product destined to fail makes it all the worse. This is a real dark time for this industry.

[@SimuLord]

There is never a good instance of working on a sinking ship. Whether it's buiilding a trash live service game, doing accounting for a company where you're responsible for preparing the financial statements and you can see with your own eyes that you're going to be out of a job in oh, about two more quarters, either because the company is going under or you're about to be bought out by a hedge fund and dismantled, or if you're a crewman on an actual ship that is currently taking on water faster than a dry sponge thrown into a pond, it is absolutely soul-crushing.

[@DirgeTV]

And if that wasn't enough, there's also a possibility you'll join millions in getting layed off a few months later by your company (Announced with a big PR style post somewhere talking about the "Hard Decisions" they had to make, years after the amount of stupid decisions they made leading up to this). Fun....

[@arekkrol9758]

@@SimuLord at least sinking ships can sometimes be saved

[@chainsawsubtlety9828]

"You must be yankin' my Astral Chain." NGL, for a split-second, I thought that sentence was going to go a completely different way.

[@jamesdrummond7684]

The last entry on the list has got you covered. Well, until the end of March, anyway.

[@registereduser]

That’s what she said.

[@QuincelSC]

Oh lord: I saw some kind of joke coming after the 'Females - Coming soon' line but not one as savagely delivered as that!

[@Rubrickety]

"Can you smell the rocks cooking?" is my new, truly all-purpose catchphrase.

[@Mitrashi]

Why was it so funny and wholesome

[@michaelpirrone]

Battle medic Feng the battle medic sure sounds like an interesting character with a rich lore surrounding him.

[@WhiteLama]

Sounds like some sort of close combat specialist!

[@PhoenicopterusR]

​@WhiteLama yeah, but also a medic! Isn't that crazy? What will they think of next?

[@Brasc]

12:18 I'm across the Atlantic in America, living in an indeterminate amount of time in the future after this was recorded, and viewing it through a remote internet connection. Regardless, I think I got singed by the sheer heat of that burn.

[@Amaranthyne]

Thank you, this joke flew over my head the first time. As a female version myself, I’d like to say, there’s more than one way to skin a cat.

[@SimuLord]

@@Amaranthyne How many cats are you skinning that you need to vary up your technique?

[@Amaranthyne]

@@SimuLord It’s a saying 🤷🏽‍♀️ however, if you repeat it to my mom she will tell you there is a _best_ way. Medical schools, go figure.

[@SimuLord]

@@AmaranthyneI'm familiar with the figure of speech...enough so that I said it once and had a "hey, wait a minute" moment.

[@Amaranthyne]

@@SimuLordI _am_ aware of the literal meaning and implications. In the absence of a better alternative, I still use it.

[@SakuraKotoni]

If you told me at the beginning of 2024 that I'd hear you guys talk about Love Live, I would have laughed, and yet here we are. An interesting point to note is that the original Love Live School Idol Festival ran for almost 10 whole years before being shut down! That's hella amazing for a live service game. As always the devs decided to make some stupid decisions (AKA chasing the trend of only adding the highest rarity tier to the gacha instead of the previous method of adding all rarities to the gacha) although I was under the impression that the original LLSIF still made good money when they decided to shut it down. No one knows truly why they decided to shut down the original, if it really was still making good money. Also it was stated that EU players wouldn't be able to transfer their original LLSIF progress to LLSIF2 which was a huge deal in the Love Live community, as well as (from what I've heard) LLSIF2 players saying it's inferior in almost every way to the original LLSIF (especially when you consider that LLSIF came out over 10 years ago whereas LLSIF2 came out last year).

[@AidanTempest]

I wasn't expecting the disparaging of of their manhood there, that was brutal Ellen LMAO

[@newhavencon-py5yy]

Oh my god. I took her comment as just a normal comment before I read this.

[@BAMFshee]

The sad thing is, despite being hilariously unfinished (something that wasn't mentioned in the video is that large parts of the map *weren't even textured, they were nothing but cubemaps* not to mention how easy it was to clip through the ground) and an obvious attempt to chase a trend, Radical Heights was somehow the most fun I've ever had with the Battle Royale genre. I only played it for a couple of hours but the lack of fall damage and the ability to dive in a different direction mid-air made for some surprisingly fun skirmishes (one of my favourite memories was the time I got into a firefight in an apartment building, jumped off a balcony and dove back into the building from the floor below, then ambushed the guy when he started shooting someone else) If Boss Key hadn't needed to rush it out the door to try to stay afloat after Lawbreakers bombed so badly and had a few more months to get it in something vaguely resembling a Beta instead of a barely-started Alpha before going into Early Access, it might have actually turned into something decent. Sadly, we'll never know.

[@WhiteLama]

Sounds like you need to play Pathfinder in Apex Legends!

[@Gatorade69]

Have you tried The Finals ?

[@appledingdong3736]

12:27 perfect joke, perfect delivery.

[@wyxsg]

I was wondering if Love Live! would make the list and you guys didn't disappoint.

[@huppaduppa]

I came into the comment section looking for a comment like this lmao

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

I saw the title and just went Nico-Nico-NO!

[@SwagWagger]

worked at game stop when babylon's fall came out and then quickly got shelved. we were told to trash all the copies we had. obviously me and my coworkers all took one home to play together and see how bad it was before we did, and man. it was NOT good

[@sswishbone]

Love Live School Idol Festival 2 is a great one to call out. What makes it worse, is that they closed TWO other games for it. The excellent Love Live school idol festival and the brilliant Love Live all stars... Truly baffling

[@bakacdaz]

I remembered when people make fun of older one became a dead game and fans believed it gonna returned as a king after new one release. But newer one just suddenly dead even before the release is just weird.

[@Sivick314]

gotta say, watching live service games explode into a fiery oblivion is the most fun live service games has ever provided anyone

[@Banquet42]

There could be dlc for video game publisher simulator which causes the building to burn down if you decide to make a live service game.

[@VonBlade]

I just want to stand an applaud Ellen for managing to remember that Babylon's Fall story. If James wasn't holding cue cards, my gast is flabbered.

[@registereduser]

I was gruntled.

[@Banquet42]

I was whelmed.

[@waspnuts]

Ellen's "Coming Soon" quip toward Radical Heights was a helluva Burn.

[@just4music888]

further info regarding SIF2, for those who didn't know, they had another game called SIFAS as well as SIF (predecessor to SIF2), they pulled the plug on those games to focus everything on making this game, the problem is, when SIF2 was released to JP, it was clear that the game is dying so when it was released to global, the players aren't really that surprised (aside from those who aren't up to date by the game's development) by the announcement. There are even rumors that SIF2 is the last LL mobile game for global players tldr, they basically f'ed it up with how they handled the development of SIF2

[@GarmrKiDar]

12:22 the *savagery*

[@metalwhere]

Absolutely brilliant! ❤*Chef's Kiss*

[@atma101]

I'd like to report a murther.

[@pierresmee4769]

excellent work guys! 12:20 is, of course, most definitely, the best thing ever this week😂..thank you Ellen! (and "can you smell the Rock's cooking?" a strong second..thanks Luke😊)

[@UnreasonableArticulo]

Rumbleverse sounds like it's actually a very cool idea. How I never heard of it before, especially when it was out during a time we basically did nothing but sit online all day, is a testament to how bad their promoting of the game was.

[@archammer2]

It was pretty darn fun! I played a few rounds when I saw it randomly advertised on Epic's game store. I managed to win a round and that's usually my clue that I'm mostly playing against bots...

[@karmicrespite5737]

Yakkocmn made a big video talking about his experience with Rumbleverse and how devastated he was when he found out while making the video (he was initially just going to talk about his love of the game) that the game was shutting down.

[@WolfmanBrown]

I remember seeing its announcement and then never heard anything about jt again until watching this video.

[@kendoyle]

That last speedrun cancel was astonishing

[@mt_baldwin]

12:18 that is the most edgy joke ever told on this channel and Ellen is the one that said it? Wha...

[@MikesPortugal-zm4oy]

I would feel the same way until I found Ellens personal channel and her amazing rant skills😂 the burn force is strong in this one🔥💪🤣

[@xtifr]

Ellen shares many properties with her beloved cats: she's smol, irresistibly charming, makes funny noises when happy--and is an absolutely brutal killer! 😀

[@user-vb2ll8nl6g]

Planetside: Arena is another one. A battle royale game set in the Planetside universe that was the polar opposite of the MMOFPS Planetside series. Planetside players hated it, no one else heard about it, and within a month or so of it's release the servers were shut down.

[@Gamer3427]

Some of these definitely feel like a marketing failure more than anything. I'd never even heard of a couple of the games on this list, and Lawbreakers I only heard about briefly through a Penny Arcade strip. As for the Love Live game, I remember us talking about that in a gacha discord server I'm in, and we all had a good laugh at it. I suppose since they'd already put in work to translate it and promised it to the global audience, they felt the need to release it at least briefly so fans who were looking forward to it could play, but it's such a weird move, lol.

[@bakacdaz]

At least they are sincere enough to tell the players that they are going to shutting it down soon so people would not getting the false hope and put put their money on their gacha for nothing.

[@Gamer3427]

@@bakacdazYea, definitely better than some global releases for gachas, including a few I've tried, that ended up having their end of service happen less than six months after launch. Though in some of those cases it was due to a butchered GL version, while the original release was still going strong.

[@DrSloth78]

Rooster Teeth's Vicious Circle. Dead on arrival, the most concurrent players was 323. The month after launch it plummeted to 26. Went F2P almost instantly, and did so poorly, it resulted in the closure of RT Games.

[@UltimaLestat]

Have to admit, I never thought in a million years that Oxboxtra would ever mention Love Live.

[@Herowebcomics]

I can just hear them now! "Suicide squad: Kill the Justice League was a failed attempt to use the legendary Arkham series for a live service game. Why they thought using the Suicide squad instead of Batman or the Justice League as playable characters for it we may never know."😅 "Oh yeah,GUNS! Which is weird because half of the members of the Suicide squad that you play as don't use guns either!”

[@JohnWilliams-cr2sz]

...I like Suicide Squad.

[@Herowebcomics]

​@@JohnWilliams-cr2szThat makes one of a few hundred of you. I hope they at least give you the whole game before they move on.🫤

[@Herowebcomics]

@@JohnWilliams-cr2sz That makes one of a few hundred of you! I hope they at least give you the full game before they move on!😔

[@Kris-wo4pj]

​@@Herowebcomicsthey wont. They need 12 more seasons to give the full story. I doubt that'll happen.

[@CassCat69]

⁠@@JohnWilliams-cr2sz if you hold on long enough, you could be the top 1 player!

[@CyFiWasTaken]

As one of the seven people who like it, RIP Battleborn

[@clintbrew]

Did'nt help that it got overshadowed by Overwatch a month later (btw i said this before i watched the vid just incase they say that in the video)

[@mr-laroque9604]

I miss it everyday. It was more of a MOBA than overwatch. I liked it for that. Also liked the campaign with the dozens of character voice lines.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

I liked battleborn more than overwatch. Then the servers shut down and i likely sold the disc for 5 bucks before it became worthless.

[@KyleS.1987]

I'll never forget Randy Pitchford hyping it up with the term 'hobby grade.'

[@RosesSpindle]

I didn't play it, my friend did. But I remember the little alien penguin in a combat mech. "Sorry about your guts!"

[@AschaVovina]

_Them’s Fightin’ Herds_ may not be live-service per sae but it spent years in development - starting as a fan-made _My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic_ fighting game before being reworked with original characters - but was still scrapped in an incomplete state, with many promised features (chief among them the long-awaited story mode) left unfinished.

[@FubukiTheIcyKing]

Yep they copped out on the story mode which you would think would be easiest for a fighting game to get down first.

[@lnsflare1]

Fake news! The hellscape is *still* known as Twitter, despite its best efforts.

[@SebastianWeinberg]

0:07 - *“Instead of following their planned roadmaps of content and being perpetual platforms of entertainment […]”* Now, let's be honest here: These games were _never, ever_ intended to provide perpetual entertainment. They were primarily, and often _exclusively,_ intended to drive perpetual _revenue_ - providing even momentary entertainment was, at best, an afterthought.

[@Fools_Requiem]

The biggest issue with Lawbreakers was that it had a steep learning curve. The game was very well constructed and fun could be had... assuming you could figure out the mechanics. Supposedly, Cliffy B teased a potential return of the game in some manner.

[@mp5wes]

At least Love Live gave a heads up when they were gonna shutdown. Haven't seen any services do that before

[@PinkAgaricus]

Takt Op gave a heads up too, right when you were about to log in at the notices window. I think at the time they also announced it on social media too. I think DeNA handled this closure well since they gave out 2 rounds of 200 pulls, a free maxed unit, free maxed equip card, and materials/material chests via in game mail. lol The opening song doesn't even start at the right point anymore (Takt Op Symphony).

[@mp5wes]

@@PinkAgaricus too bad they (in general I mean) don't handle it like what Capcom did for MegaMan x Dive and offer an offline version after the servers shutdown

[@James-gj8rn]

i never thought i'd see Love Live mentioned on Outside Xbox, i love the original show, it's too bad this mention wasn't in a better light

[@boobah5643]

Pretty sure _Love Live_ doesn't have an original show; it has an original game. Which is three or four games earlier in the series than the one featured in this list.

[@James-gj8rn]

@@boobah5643 the Love Live School Idol Project anime is what i was referring to, the one with μ's (muse)

[@AkumaDayo]

​@@James-gj8rn I think what they're trying to say is that the games were first and then an anime adaptation was released later on

[@DMBLaan]

Wow Ellen with the sick burn for on Radical Heights! Didn't know she was capable of that kind of insult, good on her!

[@JamesTM]

IMO, live service games should have a legally mandated minimum lifespan. If cancelled before then (say, five years?), every customer must be refunded.

[@SimuLord]

"C'mon, Moe, you couldn't even give me one lousy round?"

[@ZackC]

I’ve seen a lot of bad takes about live service games, but this is probably the worst.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

​@@ZackCidk i kinda like it cuz then ya atleast know youre not getting scammed.

[@JamesTM]

@@ZackC What? That people should have some guarantee that the thing they spent money on will actually still function for some amount of time? I think it's absolutely absurd that you can buy a game at launch and then have that game cease to be playable in a year. All I'm really suggesting is a warranty period.

[@PanzerFist_T932]

True, because some of them may just end up being a rugpull or scam (kinda like NFTs and and crapcoins) I'd like to add on top of the warranty period it should also come with some level of quality that they have to pass/meet, otherwise they could just be asset flips or shoddy/lazy games that stayed for however many years before shutting down... but the cash shop is always 100% functional and responsive for obvious reasons

[@lancelotto475]

"Man, they do not hold at RPS!" Peter Molyneux: cries

[@adriankerrison]

That "coming soon" joke was maybe Ellen's finest work yet, and that is saying A LOT.

[@andybrown4284]

Games reliant on multiplayer or require being online or a server connection even for soloplay are a risky prospect due to with how disposable games have become, especially the generic cod-likes, hero shooters and BR bandwagons that appear to try and capitalise on sales rather than longevity

[@davidmelon9409]

Ellen deserves a golf clap for saying the title of that game at least three times without skipping a beat. Golf clap to you, Ellen.

[@MarvinPowell1]

Here's hoping we see Suicide Squad KTJL joining this list _real_ soon.

[@SimuLord]

JM8 from Second Wind called it "Unalive Group: Destroy Your Childhood" and I have stolen it. It is mine now.

[@nonspiderweb]

Shouldn't we be hoping for the opposite? If it ends up on the list that means the developers gave up and didn't try to make it better.

[@SorowFame]

@@nonspiderwebfrom what I’ve heard there’s not much you can do to improve it without overhauling the whole thing, especially since the live service mechanics seem to be one of its major problems. I doubt we’ll be getting an FFXIV style comeback any time soon

[@Kris-wo4pj]

​@@nonspiderwebhey if rocksteady wants to go under and not exist anymore they can try to fix it. I would have preferred that superman single player game from them but eh im fine with them all losing their job if they really want to go out being known for this and not good games.

[@SimuLord]

@@nonspiderwebThere's an old saying in Vegas: "Quit while you're ahead." In SS:KTJL's case, it's more like "you've already sold your wife and daughter to a pimp to get more bankroll, stop before you have to sell yourself as well."

[@dirtsmell8824]

I feel like you could do a whole list like this on just the asymmetrical horror market. RE: Resistence, (and REverse too, whomp whomp Capcom and failed Resident Evil multiplayers) Prop Night, whatever that ghost game was (I wanna say Ghost Hunt?), VHS, Evil Dead, etc.

[@JoshHenderson16]

Battle Medic Feng catching major strays in this one.

[@beezlebubisfly3211]

Idea for a video, bosses that are good tennis players like ganondorf in ocarina of time.

[@darkrider4247]

You got me with the Love Live entry, I did not expect to see that one! nice work guys!

[@nicholasgibbons]

Gallons of after-sun needed following that burn from Ellen :D

[@ZackRToler]

I'm surprised to hear about Love Live 2, I never got into it, but I remember the first one being really popular when I used to play BanG Dream. The only mobile rhythm game I got on my phone is Hatsune Miku but I don't play it much, but when I do, it absorbs me for weeks, then I stop for several months, then get back into it, repeat

[@boobah5643]

It's not _Love Live 2._ It's _School Idol Festival 2,_ and is _at least_ the third game in the _Love Live_ series, since I've played two different, earlier, iterations.

[@PatrickStar-tr9dz]

Spartacus Legends was one of my favorite games of all time. It saddens me that I’ll never be able to play it again.

[@Strigulino]

Lego Universe. I’m still salty about that. Huge IP, decent game. Lasted just over a year.

[@dominateeye]

Child me bought a subscription to Lego Magazine just so I could get the code you needed to get through that one door in the amphitheater area. By the time the first issue got to my house, the game's closure was announced. There was no code to be had. I cancelled the subscription the next day. One of the biggest things I'm still curious about. There *is* a revival project called Darkflame Universe that has released some source code and seems to be talking as if people are playing the game again, but I have no idea how to access it if they are. Hoping one day they'll announce an official game client and servers and the like, so I'll finally be able to see what's behind that door.

[@kingboom56]

I Realised we can just make a list video of only failed Battle Royales. I was waiting for Ellen to list Hyper scape as the final game

[@GordonFan]

12:11 I mean to be fair I don't mind early access stuff being mostly unpolished such as Golf with your friends but on all that I knew they at least were mostly playable such as golf was so early access I remember when only 3 maps were in the game and it now has 12 so I saw 8 before with a 9th before they started doing things but in contrast that at least worked.

[@renashi0127]

I... Didn't expect Love Live to be in this list. But its goddamn Fitting to the list like, WTF with that announcement when I first saw it back then.

[@bdf1006]

I was wondering what was going to beat The Day Before and then I broke down laughing immediately when I say Love Live as the last entry because I knew about how crazy that one is.

[@johntong9743]

Rumbleverse actually sounds like a cool concept. First I've heard of it, though.

[@sergiodbd]

😢 it was awesome

[@imrpovking845]

Think it would be better as a Street Fighter-style game not a MoBA.

[@sergiodbd]

@@imrpovking845 it wasn’t a moba. It was just a battle royale. X amount of people fight on a shrinking map until there’s only 1 left. And it was glorious, there was nothing like lining up an elbow drop off the the top of a sky scraper and hitting someone on ground level, or hitting an RKO off the side of a bridge 😭

[@jurrasicore8682]

cool game that was epic shutdown cause they suddenly realized they already had a battleroyale

[@Mrchair905]

I was born in 96 and, in my opinion, really got to grow up with a golden age of gaming through the early 2000’s and 2010’s. I miss the days before games as a service was really a thing.

[@Hugelag]

Chocobo GP still hurts after all these years because it would've done way better if they didn't try to make it a live service game.

[@xiaoxiaostickguy]

I remember the reaction in the Vtuber space to the love live game being so hilarious. As a space where people roleplay anime characters, clearly many of them are fans of series like Love Live and were pretty thrilled to see the Global release, and then immediately heartbroken in the next blink because of it being both announced to be launching and then closing IN THE SAME TWEET. I know the answer is "so they can try to get money from that short time frame they have", but truly what is the point of keeping it open for that short a time frame otherwise?

[@DirgeTV]

Not sure what's worse: This or awkwardly allowing your game to be free on a gaming service while simultaneously shutting down the studio that made it (PS Plus Members will know what I'm talking about. Quite an awkward time September was..)

[@razgriz821]

Moment of silence? Moment of jubilation more like. Who cares about these live service games dying? The publisher never cared for their fans anyway.

[@lukenukemson2231]

12:18 that "coming soon" joke was brutal 😂😂😂

[@ein01]

Luke needs his Love Live! fix. 🤣 Was very much not expecting that.

[@LordJazzly]

Oh my god. I don't have any social media any more, so I missed the last one; that's one of the best game announcement posts I've ever seen. 'We are excited, and also sad, to announce to the world the thrilling - but also regrettable - imminent release and subsequent closure of our fantastic new online game! Get ready to get your game on and thanks (in advance) for all the support'

[@PinkAgaricus]

KLab didn't make this version, they departed during Love Live SIF All Stars getting removed from the splash screen and discontinuing the SIF ID service to link account. This version of SIF is all on Bushiroad. Bushiroad both developed and distributed SIF2. I'm not editing what became a wall of text again. I also want this to be seen and not be buried under a wall of text.

[@finchhawthorne1302]

Excellent argument for offline and single player games. You can be one of 10 people in the world who care about and want to play the game and that game is still something you can play.

[@hi_tech_reptiles]

12:19 that was an actually unforseen premature "evacuation" joke from Ellen and im here for it

[@KittenFables]

I was NOT expecting to see LLSIF2 on this list at all... It's still too soon, too raw 😭💔

[@NullOminous]

Love the video! Genuine question, very much trying not to be rude: Is it possible to change the background of the filmed sections to not be glaring white? Like even a subtly patterned white-gray or something else? Not sure if it's a greenscreen or not. If not, no problem, but just checking. Sincerely, a person using dark mode in a dark room 😅

[@Radicalbeast]

You glossed over the fact that the ONE player for Babylon's Fall was a Journalist who had forgotten for months/years he left his playstation on. So the one person wasn't even playing.

[@diamondplayz2145]

I remember watching a video about The Day Before explaining why it was eventually scrapped and stuff. It’s a shame really. I was really looking forward to playing that game. It looks so good in the trailer.

[@KigaiOkasu]

I think I mentioned MvCI in the last video, but how about New Gundam Breaker. Unlike the Gundam Breaker games that came before it, it had less model kits to mix and match with, and incorporated a hot swap system that "encouraged" switching out your current parts with what you could find on the ground. And those were the issues that we knew about before the game came out. Gameplay issues aside for this particular issue, it did encourage online play as certain model kits could only be acquired there, and there was always the chance that more could be added as DLC. Unfortunately, the game failed every network beta test in Japan, played at a terrible framerate online and offline, and was reviewed so poorly that the price dropped to $20 in Japan weeks before its international release. Thankfully, we're getting a Gundam Breaker 4 some time this year, and we can all forget this game ever happened.

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

I knew for sure they would do Lawbreakers and Radical Heights in a row. I thought they made the video because of The Day Before. Did not see that final entry coming. That's insane and hilarious.

[@archellothewolf2083]

I remember playing Lawbreakers at a convention before the release. And then never heard of it again. Completely forgot about it until today.

[@NinjaMuffinLive1]

Radical Heights was by far the most fun battle Royale game I've ever played. Gun play was great, mechanics were great, devs were hilarious and even added suggestions from the community into the game in that short timeframe it was live. Its a shame that Cliffy B didn't know how to run a game company. Truely miss that game

[@actionmaverick707]

Live Service games that died? I see this as an absolute win.

[@noulo973]

Some of the older ones i can remember are The Culling 2, SOS battle royale and all the licensed MOBAs like DCs, Marvels and LotRs.

[@PitterPomCB]

The pure whiplash I felt going from realistic dark third-person shooter to “Colorful Kawaii-desu Music Game”

[@reprogremTTV]

Rumbleverse hurts the most because towards the end of its life a LOT of KZbinrs, especially fighting game youtubers, got their hands on it and were doing amazing things with the systems to show how fun it could be if you got good at it. They just found it too late, sadly.

[@CrazeeAdam]

LOL the only thing I knew about Radical Heights was that Game Grumps played it or tried too, couldn't find enough players to play with, had to announce they were playing on social media... and still barely found enough people to play with.

[@Timingzero]

Can't wait to see part 3 of this series. Suicide Squad, Foamstars, and Skull & Bones are already 3 this year.

[@OzzHardy]

So, it took a call of duty entry in an outsidextra video to learn that the saw puppet has a name, life is funny that way

[@SimuLord]

I wonder if any live service games that have come out since the apocalypse of the genre this time last year are only coming out because the publishers just want to squeeze whatever revenue they possibly can out of them so they're not a total loss. A certain DC universe game that will have its servers shut down by Q3 (someone set a reminder to bring this up in September the way Ellen set a reminder for Luke's Steam Deck) comes to mind.

[@brycestrife5605]

Loved this. Thanks❤

[@XeoKnight]

12:00 Wasn’t it used to be for beta, or even alpha versions of games? The forest and subnautica (subnautica was one of the og early access right?) did it that way at least iirc

[@koatomasbezdek4860]

8:24 is it just me or does the music for this part sound like the Home Depot song?

[@author_n_wilson2983]

Looking forward to Luke's eventual stream of the Love Live! game. I mean, I'm sure he was genuinely making space and downloading it and it wasn't just a bit, right?

[@zacharysmith4856]

Well, at least now I can challenge friends with some proper hard trivia questions about live service games. Oxtra providing a key service as always. 🙂

[@PixelReaper]

Dont forget that it was Steam that forced refunds of The Day Before, rather than Fntastic themselves.

[@rootyful]

I remember a mobile/steam game called Aerena... Loved playing it. REALLY loved the character designs. But it was not made to stay.

[@G00N3R7883]

I was going to make a snarky comment about how I've never even heard of Law Breakers, but honestly I do remember seeing videos of those characters swinging around the maps. However, I genuinely have never heard of Radical Heights.

[@MikeSchinlaub]

In the Law Breakers segment, I think that music was "Faust" by Mick Gordan. Hopefully that's royalty free.

[@harryshuman9637]

Closure of the mega popular Warzone: Caldera Clash hurts me the most personally, and is one the biggest crimes in video game history. Clearly indicates Activision doesn't know what they are doing.

[@flowercrown-eevee]

My friends and I were big fans of the OG Love Live mobile game. We all played it regularly but eventually all stopped cause we were spending too much on it. We LAUGHED and raged so hard about that announcement for the new game. We just couldnt not believe that they had the gall to announce a games release AND IT CLOSURE at the SAME TIME. It more or less ensured that it would make no money.

[@fluffybunnybadass]

cannot believe a love live game made it to one of these lists, and also no one has come to understand why they even did that. they had like. 3 other similar games before this that were basically the same gameplay, but chose to shut all of them down (I imagine SIF lost funding/playerbase because All Stars happened), but then there was another one that I didn't even bother keeping track of after AS, and man still can't believe that was a real thing that's happened and just. why even announce it at that point???