Discussing NHL teams in need of new Arenas My Twitter - / realpatrickmcl
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@nategz98758 ай бұрын
For as much as we pay for arenas, they should last at least 50 years
@AndrewKerr58 ай бұрын
I’m from the UK and our stadiums last for decades. Our areas last for at least 50 years. The USA needs to start to place 50 year leases on teams. For the money spent on them, they need to last 50 years with a mid life renovation factored in. Or, follow the UK model, where no tax money is spent on stadiums and owners spend that money on them, and to a degree can improve them as they see fit. Arenas should be owned by the local council, who will take all the revenue from non sporting events and for sports events take a $2 fee from each ticket sold for the likes of environmental services. Unless a owner of a franchise pony’s up the money to build their arena, in which case the council takes $2 above every ticket sold. Imagine what a few billion saved on arenas and stadiums could be spent on, Teachers?
@HighpointerGeocacher8 ай бұрын
@@AndrewKerr5 Most buildings become obsolete in far less time, especially considering how fast technology changes. For example, modern telecommunications technologies like WiFi and cellular phones did not exist 50 years ago, even more recently.
@robserrano89718 ай бұрын
FACTS... DROPPING SOME KNOWLEDGE. 50 YEAR MINIMUM CONTRACT WITH ALL STADIUMS AND ARENAS. TAX PAYERS NEED TO GET MONEY'S WORTH. LOYAL FAN BASES GET CRUSHED WITH RELOCATION. EVERY LEAGUE NEED TO HAVE SALARY CAPS TOO. SOME PLAYERS ARE OVER PAID AND HARDLY PLAY.
@detroittigers12828 ай бұрын
It’s amazing the short life span of arenas today. I’m 41 and remember Boston Garden, Chicago Stadium, Maple Leaf Gardens, Montreal Forum. In the NFL had Cleveland Stadium, Astrodome, Anaheim Stadium, Mile High Stadium, RFK Stadium, Foxboro Stadium just some places that were bare bones and now it’s basically keeping up with the Jones’s, there’s nothing wrong with any of these facilities from a structure standpoint. Why I really wish cities would collude NO tax payer funds for rich billionaires. Let them fund all these stadiums, truth is the citizens get nothing out of this, parking, concessions all outrageous, i am so cool watching a game in the comfort of my home. It’s lack of priorities, and I enjoy this channel because I do like Stadium, arena talk. Again I’m 41, the first time I was like whoa this is crazy was when the Falcons were in talks and eventually left the Georgia Dome. I remember the Falcons playing in Fulton County Stadium and was 10 when they moved into Georgia Dome, which hosted two Super Bowls, im like wow that is now obsolete? And it’s only continued seeing the St. Louis/ Los Angeles Rams, Texas Rangers, Atlanta Braves, these teams have had 3 home stadiums in the last 30 years, crazy. I remember when the Rams and Raiders played in Los Angeles and moved to St. Louis and Oakland in 1995, I was 13 years old. Now if a stadium is “boring” or doesn’t have “natural light” it’s considered “outdated”, why again these rich billionaires need start paying this themselves. In the 90s I understood the Texas Rangers leaving Arlington Stadium which was originally a minor league stadium, the Cleveland Browns leaving Cleveland Stadium built in 1932, the Celtics/ Bruins leaving Boston Garden, those places were unfit, however now? It’s ridiculous. The Brewers threatening relocate, I view these renovations as a “want” and not a “need”. A “need” was Chicago Stadium where the Bulls and Blackhawks played in basically a barn, why cities need start colluding with no more tax payer funded stadiums, that or need start making these leases 50 years. I point back to Stan Kronke who I think is a scum bag leaving his home State however give credit for at least funding Sofi Stadium himself, that was another place I couldn’t believe was abandoned after only 20 years the dome in St. Louis, again nothing wrong with the place structurally, was glad see the city receive a billion dollar victory against Kronke and NFL, because otherwise the tax payers would have been totally screwed left holding the bag over the Dome in St. Louis that wasn’t even paid off when the Rams left town.
@superscot178 ай бұрын
How is the Honda centre and eye sore??? I’m not even a Ducks fan but there is nothing wrong with that venue.
@calgary28005 ай бұрын
Yeah. It hell of nice. I live in Seattle and it's nicer than the Kraken arena
@S_Over_Street8 ай бұрын
Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle the only thing old about it is the entire roof. It’s the original roof from the Seattle Coliseum from 1962. When Key Arena was demolished, everything except the roof was taken out as AEG (the construction company) dug more down to expand the layout so hockey would work. The City of Seattle deemed the roof a historic landmark as why everything else was demolished to build an entire new arena.
@daviejz66988 ай бұрын
The Panthers have a nice arena. It is in a safe area in walking distance of a huge outlet mall. Much safer than arena located downtown.
@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena8 ай бұрын
And he said Surprise, Florida, it's "Sunrise, Florida"
@HighpointerGeocacher8 ай бұрын
@@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena Apparently confused it with Surprise, Arizona
@jayboogie12958 ай бұрын
The Ginger I doubt has ever been there. Big renovation years ago plus it was renovated again for the all star game
@LRS19888 ай бұрын
I doubt it too. He just looks at outdated photos and is like, I don't like the way it looks, they should move the team
@spacemansports41298 ай бұрын
@@LRS1988he mostly depsises staidums just because of age. for example he rated LoanDepot park as a number 1 top Stadium in Florida but in reality Hard Rock is. He doesn’t understand
@snackitoba8 ай бұрын
Saddledome isnt a boat form, its a saddle
@rileykazama31458 ай бұрын
I always thought it looked like a pringle 😂😂😂😂
@brettpatterson4048 ай бұрын
@@rileykazama3145when I was a kid I called it a tampon
@joeybagadonuts57742 ай бұрын
Yup, you're right, it's a saddle....not a boat. This guy stinks at making videos.
@aspalovin8 ай бұрын
Surprise Florida? lol... It's SUNRISE
@RUmlas3 ай бұрын
It's like he didn't do any research and wanted to talk about how they look on photos. People doing these type of videos should only do them if they've actually visited these arenas. Arenas, not stadiums. Ametuer.
@jasoncampbell53798 ай бұрын
The Canes just got approved a upgrade for PNC. They don’t need a new area
@SAMMYfypfg8 ай бұрын
Sunrise Florida. Not surprise Florida
@CosMooMk2 ай бұрын
9:26 The Carolina Panthers had me rofl
@CreightonRabs8 ай бұрын
9:09 You also have to keep in mind that PNC Arena is also the home of North Carolina State men's basketball. That might also play a factor in how the renovations would proceed.
@meddyvenАй бұрын
True, The Centennnial Authority has juridiction over the building, because it is on state land.
@Zytharros2 ай бұрын
For context, the Arizona Coyotes’ arena is smaller than the Chilliwack Coliseum, home of the BCHL’s Chilliwack Chiefs, by about 500 seats.
@bobbowie93508 ай бұрын
Ducks do not need a new arena. It's still nice.
@sirchi87318 ай бұрын
😂😂 for real. Both Angel's Field and Honda Center are just fine. They need a winning team😊
@kylestrange44948 ай бұрын
@@sirchi8731depressed ginger doesn't visit any of these places. He doesn't know..
@sirchi87318 ай бұрын
@@kylestrange4494 yeah we all know the trick now. I think he from Ohio. Needs to focus on the Browns or something
@davidkitterman39528 ай бұрын
The Honda center is nice inside obviously depressed ginger hasn’t been inside it
@kylestrange44948 ай бұрын
@@davidkitterman3952 exactly. Like I said they guy didn't even post pictures of the exterior renovation either. He doesn't know what he's talking about
@bobbowie93508 ай бұрын
Despite the massive renovations, Msg needs to be put out of it's misery. Upper decks are dreadful. Cramped and claustrophobic.
@hockeyfans918 ай бұрын
Yes been waiting for you to do a hockey video 😊
@Hashim3058 ай бұрын
9:37 Carolina shares PNC arena with NC State basketball. Also, the Panthers play in SUNRISE. You should look into why the Heat and Panthers split from sharing an arena after initially sharing the Miami Arena.
@northernsurferboy8 ай бұрын
Fort Lauderdale wanted pro sports and built it, I like how on the east side there is America's 4th biggest mall and on the west is the everglades
@fulhamtarheel8 ай бұрын
You called the Canes the Panthers. Whoops.
@EvanEscher8 ай бұрын
Did you have background music in this video? I think that's the first time I've heard that in one of your videos.
@antoinemalone27652 ай бұрын
I don't watch hockey but I'm hooked on these videos lol. Being from California, the Honda Center doesn't look bad at all. Looks pretty nice although I never been inside. That new rendering in Ottawa looks like the Allegiant and Sofi stadiums in a way. Hopefully they don't start making all these new venues look the same.
@northernsurferboy8 ай бұрын
Buffalo was one of the first arenas with a big atrium and there was a upgrade summer outdoor arena attached a few years ago there is no call to replace it, that arena was built under budget so there is a lot of room to upgrade it and their owner has deep pockets, Honda Center has a marble exterior and is nice inside
@donaldpaluga8 ай бұрын
If Carolina gets a new rink it needs to be built like Dorton Arena.
@meddyvenАй бұрын
Poor Dorton arena; left for dead after the last seadon of Raleigh Ice Caps hockey. Miss the mascot, Cappy!
@AntTrain78 ай бұрын
Come on dude, Sunrise not surprise. It’s not that hard
@dontedrake23168 ай бұрын
Yep sunrise Florida it's not bad basketball arena and a great hockey arena in my opinion
@HighpointerGeocacher8 ай бұрын
@@dontedrake2316 Surprise is a city in Arizona.
@LoweDown4148 ай бұрын
Dude, please do extensive research going forward when doing these videos. Anyone who truly loves hockey already knows what's up, and it seems to me that you have a narrative to bash certain regions.
@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena8 ай бұрын
The Ducks are getting a new arena in 2050 in the same lot or be renovated with the Angel Stadium, then Honda Center will last longer
@anthonyacampora51718 ай бұрын
They need to go away - San Diego is a perfect expansion market and would give the NHL a new TV market. The Ducks are in the shadow of the Kings.
@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena8 ай бұрын
@anthonyacampora5171 Actually, San Diego was a theoretical choice for the Coyotes, but the likely chances of expanding the NHL to 40 teams; San Diego is a low bet, on top is Portland, Houston, Salt Lake, Quebec, Atlanta, Milwaukee and Austin
@shane97118 ай бұрын
Boat type design??? It’s called the SADDLEdome
@meddyvenАй бұрын
I wish he'd do more research, before doing these vids.
@jayboogie12958 ай бұрын
Panthers are in Sunrise, not Surprise. You probably need to go it’s been renovated and definitely not a bottom arena. Also convenient off a main highway so probably the best traffic situation in the nhl
@kylestraveljournal8 ай бұрын
I think he just looks at pictures and judges the place as a whole.
@HighpointerGeocacher7 ай бұрын
Surprise is in Arizona
@HighpointerGeocacher7 ай бұрын
Downtown Mesa would be a good idea. The light rail runs to downtown Mesa, so it provides good public transit access. If one is driving, there is close access from two freeways. Downtown Mesa has other good facilities like a convention center, museums, and performing arts theater.
@jeremylando408 ай бұрын
So the flyers are not getting a new arena they actually own the WFC and it is going through a massive renovation that’s part of why the sixers are getting their own arena and when the flyers are good the Wells Fargo Center is always popping off and is really loud
@leisenra8 ай бұрын
Yea they have put a huge investment into the WFC ($400 million), not building a new one anytime soon.
@lrccolt48 ай бұрын
Yes I just went there this year and was very impressed with the renovations. Much much nicer than the devil's Prudential center in Newark NJ. That's only 16 years old and feels completely run down inside
@billbyers23448 ай бұрын
The Bruins did a massive renovation to TD Garden as well. Not in the same scale as WF Center. It’s amazing how long in the tooth both buildings are, and I still remember the old Boston Garden and Spectrum quite well.
@PaytonSzudzik18 ай бұрын
Keybank center is nice and not even 20 years old. It has at least 20 years in it
@doubletbigballz5 ай бұрын
the one thing i wish they would do at key bank arena is to replace the awnings at the atrium, they used to be grand and have a hockey sculpture on them, now it just says key bank arena with the red key logo.
@jgon93 ай бұрын
3:49 technically it’s not in Ottawa, it’s in Kanata 😉
@djdiemdduejdj8 ай бұрын
The Honda Center (Anaheim) is getting a 4 billion dollar district (OC V!be) aeound it. Construction is supposed to start soon and on their website they say the Honda Center will eventually get a $500 million upgrade as well.
@SetonHallPirate8 ай бұрын
Sunrise, Florida for the Panthers, not Surprise. It’s also now Amerant Bank Arena. Of note, it’s also among the larger arenas in the NHL. Location is utterly awful, though.
@jonstefanik94008 ай бұрын
I feel an alligator or rattlesnake could come up and attack you in the parking lot from the swamp.
@jeffthewhiff8 ай бұрын
It is too bad that the public voted down the Coyotes' Tempe Arena plans because the renderings of the arena and entertainment district look very cool!
@TropicalDesert8 ай бұрын
it is okay they will just take the same design and build it in Mesa or Scottsdale instead.
@jeffthewhiff8 ай бұрын
Yes, I hope they do that!@@TropicalDesert
@jefffleurimont60048 ай бұрын
The panthers arena is perfect. Why do you hate on them so much lol.
@joeybagadonuts57742 ай бұрын
Calgary with the "Saddledome" It's not the 'Boat Dome' is the only one you get right in terms of new arena. Ottawa is all about where it is, not the actual arena. But you didn't know that.
@toxdazcubing8 ай бұрын
9:25 caronlina panthers is football btw
@higgy048 ай бұрын
Calgary's Saddledome should have been condemned after the 2013 flood. They also are not considering the same design for their never to be built new arena because of lost revenue over the last 30 years (big name concerts skip Calgary for Edmonton, Vancouver, or even Lethbridge and Red Deer). I'm surprised the building survived a Nickelback concert a couple of months back. Also, that's the CalgaryNEVER project that was kiboshed by the un-athletic mayor and council back in 2016 at 1:35.
@JSZ07293 ай бұрын
As a Sabres fan couldn’t agree more
@jtfritz91698 ай бұрын
I love Mullett Arena, but I’d love to see the Coyotes new arena in Mesa
@donaldpaluga8 ай бұрын
Someone needs to tell Ginger Mullett Arena IS a college rink #ArizonaState
@HighpointerGeocacher8 ай бұрын
Mullett Arena is too small for an NHL team, only about 5,000 seats. Perhaps the site of the former Fiesta Mall in Mesa could be a potential site.
@user-vi7uv6mv7r8 ай бұрын
I absolutely love your content my brother!!! You should consider doing some videos on the older defunct NHL arenas. Such as the omni,Nassau coliseum, the Suncoast dome😅!!! I attended all of them and they were just brutal 😮
@MovieEggman8 ай бұрын
Honda Center on the outside looks like a really old shopping mall that hasn’t been renovated since the early 1990s.
@meddyvenАй бұрын
PNC Arena is owned by NC State, so the atena authority has to approve al changes/renovations. It really is a nice arena, except the steps in the corners down to the seats, is a bit brutal!
@calgary28005 ай бұрын
The one in Glendale AZ is really really underrated.
@simonmarshall193 ай бұрын
Calgary new arena would be called maybe Telus event Centre or Fido . Perhaps CIBC
@jordanking69398 ай бұрын
I think the Anaheim Ducks likely build a new arena if the LA Angels move to Long Beach or Santa Ana (Orange County). An arena building boom happened in the 90s and portion of the 2000s. The only way to justify building a new arena if they want to move to a another site. Even though Atlanta doesn't have an NHL team anymore, the State Farm Arena is the perfect example of an renovation gone right.
@stevenbauer47998 ай бұрын
state farm atl. renovations were specifcally meant to keep nhl out of it. nhl a no go there now.
@jordanking69398 ай бұрын
@@stevenbauer4799I meant how renovations can revive an outdated arena. I knew Atlanta wasn't going to welcome an NHL team in the near-future.
@stevenbauer47998 ай бұрын
@@jordanking6939 ok. nhl should never go back to atlanta. EVER.
@kylestrange44948 ай бұрын
Long beach or Santa ana???
@paladin6777 ай бұрын
@@stevenbauer4799How else is Canada going to get another team?
@tmghui8888 ай бұрын
I live in the Bay Area and the SJ Sharks should move to a new arena. They can build it somewhere in the South Bay.
@HighpointerGeocacher7 ай бұрын
Mesa has a population of over 500,000, which is greater than many other cities with major sports teams.
@principalmcvicker65308 ай бұрын
I'm not loving background music for your videos tbh
@CreightonRabs8 ай бұрын
Maybe it will take some getting used to, but I'm not a fan of the music in the background. It's rather distracting compared to your other videos.
@CreightonRabs8 ай бұрын
@@stevep8445 His narration is fine. I'd be less inclined to watch this channel with AI narration.
@biIIyball8 ай бұрын
Honda center exterior looks like my local mall.
@ahancock918 ай бұрын
Buffalo just announced renovations for KBC are in the works.
@FAITHandLOGIC8 ай бұрын
SUNRISE, Florida. Not "Surprise". Holy Shit.
@gregsassone89963 ай бұрын
A lot of NBA teams are going to be building and owning their own arenas. That’s why they won’t be sharing their arenas with hockey teams.
@anndizzle138 ай бұрын
Your assessment on the Honda Center is completely wrong. It looks as beautiful as it does now, as it did 30 years ago. Pristine marble and granite on the concourses. All brand new seating inside the bowl, expanded entrance off Katella and Douglas. The arts and entertainment district is for the Olympics in the LA area. They’ve done a lot to keep this arena looking spectacular for as long as they have. You’re just judging it by the outside, which looks just fine and dandy.
@davidkitterman39528 ай бұрын
This guy never been in any stadium or arena He doesn’t know what he’s talking about
@doubletbigballz8 ай бұрын
the only thing that buffalo would do to key bank is possibly gut it and rebuild the inside. they just added the harbor centre next door and it is connected. the exterior isn’t made of glass like alot of the newer ones but its all covered up by the glass atrium and parking garage.
@doubletbigballz5 ай бұрын
i agree, the only thing they could really do is guy the inside and possibly make the exterior brick so it matches the harbor center. could you imagine the uproar if the pagulas wanted new arena right after having the harbor center built. the good news is all it really needs is cosmetic things like new seats updated suites and club areas restrooms, shit like that.
@rsx7676768 ай бұрын
Have you even been to any of these areas
@dogcowrph7 ай бұрын
The Panthers arena is in Sunrise, not Surprise.
@francoiannelli87588 ай бұрын
Sunrise!! Florida 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
@eddieannis98678 ай бұрын
Chicago BlackHawks don’t need a new Arena because of the United center is Already nice
@dontedrake23168 ай бұрын
I agree
@davidkitterman39528 ай бұрын
Depressed ginger probably never been to any Arena or stadium I’ve been to the united center. It is a nice building.
@jvjustvibes91038 ай бұрын
The United Center is really nice🔥
@timothyhaley61878 ай бұрын
Natural light for night games?
@timothyhaley61878 ай бұрын
Maybe natty light
@mbg19908 ай бұрын
If teams have the luxury suites in their arenas why waste money on Interior renovations?
@natedostal868 ай бұрын
I think that both the Ducks and Angels should build new venues together similar to how the TCU football stadium with the basketball arena attached.
@ediaz9518 ай бұрын
the city doesnt want anything to do with the angels and Art moreno
@frankie44678 ай бұрын
The United Center needs to go or be renovated. Its old dated and the seats don't even have cupholders.
@user-fr2xo6sd6pАй бұрын
#HelloEverythingWithIt!
@mab29008 ай бұрын
bro love your videos but there’s so many mistakes
@simonmarshall193 ай бұрын
Get rid of Bettman . So the coyotes can relocate to Houston .
@mikes74467 ай бұрын
There’s nothing wrong with Honda center lol
@jeffadventures18 ай бұрын
inside Honda Center is pretty nice still but they could really make that area nice w a rebuild
@kylestrange44948 ай бұрын
Oc vibe is being built
@BoyNamedSue48 ай бұрын
They are.
@VDinubilo8 ай бұрын
You know they just put in new seats inside the Honda Center within the last 4-5 years or so right? All black seats. The OC Vibe thing is still being discussed. Please do some research. Some of your last videos have sadly been clickbait with no supported facts…
@anthonyacampora51718 ай бұрын
Anaheim is (excluding Arizona) in the bottom 3...
@kylestrange44948 ай бұрын
@@anthonyacampora5171 hater
@ediaz9518 ай бұрын
i think if the angels end up moving to long beach the ducks might buy angels property lot and build their new arena there so heres hoping the angels leave anaheim
@djdiemdduejdj8 ай бұрын
The Angels stadium location is 150 acres. The Ducks location is 100 acres. They can easily fit both in that location.
@barryking81368 ай бұрын
This dude doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
@stevenbauer47998 ай бұрын
sj sharks arena is outdated. soon sharks will want a new arena.
@radiantpup58678 ай бұрын
This guy yaps way to much theirs no issues with their arenas he says every arena could be the worst one LOL like bro if the arena isn’t falling apart it’s fine 😂😂😂
@UserName-ts3sp8 ай бұрын
its crazy how much nicer nationwide arena is (built in 2000) compared to some similar peers on this list. ive been to PNC arena and it sucks. bland, and too much NC state branding during canes games
@BonJovi1987Fan8 ай бұрын
Nassau coliseum is one the oldest arena's still standing
@dannythunder31808 ай бұрын
The Islanders no longer play there
@BonJovi1987Fan8 ай бұрын
@@dannythunder3180 I know that
@stevensuarez65648 ай бұрын
Surprise, Florida🎉?😅😅😅😅
@GeorgeShearer-wn2hs8 ай бұрын
Carolina Panthers do you proof your stuff? Get a real job
@ronkerzner48258 ай бұрын
Hurricanes should move back to Hartford Panthers should move coyotes should move as well
@spacemansports41295 ай бұрын
The Panthers and Canes were in the playoffs this year and are gaining success in their areas. And the panthers won a conference title. The games get outsold in curtain days due to how competitive and great ownership the Panthers have. Yeah we lost the cup but still people love this team down here.
@willp.81208 ай бұрын
Atlanta will take one of these teams. Give us the Flames back.
@Feurmc_8 ай бұрын
No lmao
@willp.81208 ай бұрын
@@Feurmc_ What's so funny?
@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena8 ай бұрын
Actually, it's the Thrashers 2.0
@willp.81208 ай бұрын
@@Gabriel_Rojas_ArenaI just wish it would hurry up. The arena should start construction next year.
@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena8 ай бұрын
@@willp.8120 give thanks to the CEO of the Atlanta Gladiators
@White_sox_fan8 ай бұрын
The Blackhawks needs a new arena
@marleymakarahmusic90508 ай бұрын
Have you been to any of these ?
@marleymakarahmusic90508 ай бұрын
Renderings , natural light , renovations , yes we get it
@breezeleon68898 ай бұрын
Have the Ducks move into the Clippers new arena
@kylestrange44948 ай бұрын
No lol Owners are from Orange county and that will never happen. Ducks are staying through 2050