7 Overrated Features Of A Watch That Are Not As Important As We Think When Looking to Buy

[@Megatraum504]

Teddy is a workhorse man. Steady pumping out bangers. It's rare that i can binge a channels older content while they are still feeding me videos i auto click in real time.

[@Megatraum504]

honestly can't say enough how much you have taught me through my new and young journey of love for watches.

[@kuanwang9107]

So true. Without this channel I probably would never even think about watch collection

[@cebeho]

Teddy is making that sweet KZbin dollar 😂😂

[@tthaas]

How about helium escape valves? Absolutely useless complication for 99.99% of all watch wearers, even those of us who do use our watches while diving. The population of Heliox divers (ie, people who need a helium escape valve) in the world would fit into a decent sized high school auditorium. For the rest of us? It's an extra potential point of failure in the case.

[@robertlock6041]

Sinn don't fit them Tyler, they design their watches properly to start with! 🙂👋

[@brandonday9001]

It's a marketing thing more than anything. All of Omegas watches can handle all commercial applications because of the HE valve as to where Rolexs submariner can only handle limited commercial applications.

[@jkkay477]

Teddy mentions them briefly at 4:26.

[@StreetEquus]

If the omega seamaster didn't have that ugly Espace valve at 10 o'clock i would bought one already.

[@robertlock6041]

@@StreetEquus I feel your frustration, brother! 🙂

[@markjones1337]

Hi Teddy, I've been watching your videos for a couple of months now and just wanted to say it's extremely refreshing to see such a young Lad making such good quality and measured videos. The watch industry needs younger folk to be buying and promoting watches. Well done and I hope you continue.

[@TeddyBaldassarre]

Thank you, Mark! I greatly appreciate the support!

[@goatreviews]

Agreed! 🙏

[@earthenjadis8199]

Accuracy for me: if it runs +8 a day or less, it's a good watch. It means it will be off by a minute in a week. Anything +15 or over and you will notice it if you need a watch for keeping appointments etc. If a watch can't keep decent time first and foremost, you may as well just go out and buy a fancy bracelet.

[@nicerides9224]

For a modern watch I'd rate accuracy pretty high but I'd be more forgiving for vintage watches.

[@danerferhadi8127]

I couldn't agree more. I had the same thought, may as well buy a bracelet. If accuracy doesn't matter, then why do high-end watches all have high accuracy (high performance) calibers? A high-accuracy mechanical movement can be admired for its engineering performance, even if it doesn't perform as well in accuracy as a quarts movement. You aren't just buying it to keep the time only sufficiently enough for your daily tasks. I'd like to see Teddy buy a $10K watch and not care that it runs just as accurately as a watch with a Miyota movement, I'm sure he'd care about the engineering quality that goes into the movement.

[@mobilemcsmarty1466]

with you on that. I'm wearing a watch so it keeps time! ..the cool factor is nice but secondary. yeah, if it doesn't keep time then go for a bling bracelet *not* containing a multi$K watch 🤣 you kinda advertise being a dummy when the time on your R or O or whatever is off 🤣 you can be sure that when I see a fancy timepiece, the immediate next thing I also look for is how close is it to real time. is it a minute+ off? you get a smirk. is it

[@Pedro-op6zj]

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[@Megatraum504]

+12 is my limit. But i typically let watches die in between use and have to reset anyways. no watch winders for me lol

[@Jessejesselewis]

You make great points but I would argue this: nearly all mechanical watches aren’t necessary to begin with so we buy them to admire the engineering and design. The new crazy Omega diver is interesting to me despite knowing I’ll never come close to using its capabilities. The reason it catches my eye is because it’s amazing they pulled it off.

[@richardnedbalek1968]

See my identical comment. Mechanical watches celebrate old-world innovation. Completely unnecessary today, but, oh, so satisfying! 😊

[@rogerwatt3154]

@@richardnedbalek1968 Indeed . . . like vinyl albums and steam locomotives . . . and gas powered cars soon!

[@mattmatt2417]

Honestly for these prices, every single watch made by these companies/GRAND Seiko/Rolex/Richard Mille/Ulysse Nardin/Piaget/Omega/Brequet/Panerai/Breitling/Hublot/Vacheron Chopard/Patek and so on, SHOULD, MAYBE be made out of Titanium,even if its disguised titanium, meaning they can still keep the look their going for, but just add that durability, it should DEFINITELY have sapphire glass,it should DEFINITELY be 200mm+ water resistant,it should be solar and it should be atomic, no matter which watch it is/if the watch is over $1000 it should have ALL OF THESE FEATURES/the value of these parts are DEFINITELY not worth the price tag anyway, your paying for a name and to be honest, they should make ALL of their watches keep time to 1 second a year,even if they aren't using quartz, or just perfect it,even if Atomic is built in or if it uses a satellite of some kind, after all for these prices, there is no limit/for the price their charging, NOTHING should be left out/left off,no excuses,we should DEFINITELY hold these companies to higher standards/I think if you buy a watch at these prices, it should have ALL of these features and you should have access to their time keeping satellites,that could auto wind your watch/send a signal to automatically set/wind your clock at midnight, every night or when ever you want to manually set your watch,to the time keeping satellites. We need to hold these companies to a higher standard/they can't ask for crazy prices,without offering everything other watch manufacturers are offering, for much cheaper prices/we don't want to just be buying a name, to fit in,we want quality made products. These are good watches,SOME lack SOME features,but they are all at least built well/they are not just junk/they will actually hold up; Bulova Sea King Omega Ploprof Omega Seamaster Ultra Deep Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Titanium Rolex Deepsea dweller Tudor Pelagos 25600tn-bkti Titanium Ball Engineer Hydrocarbon Deepquest ii Shinola The Ice Monster Seiko Tuna Orient Triton MTG-G1000D Steel GST-B100 MTG-B1000XBD Mudman Rangeman Frogman ProTreks GW-5610 GSW-H1000 GPR-B1000 Rangeman

[@archygrey9093]

Honestly for most people watches aren't even necessary, they are just jewellery to most people that wear them and will even still whip out the phone to check the time

[@lauriexu7694]

hey Teddy, a minor correction about the water resistance: the x meters of water resistance means it can withstand the pressure if placed stationary in that depth, but that is not all the watch “experiences” in water. Let’s say you are standing in a pool with only your head above water, and arms on your side. You can try to swing your arms back and forth, but it would be a lot more difficult to do it in water than in air. This is because your arm experiences more pressure when moving. The same apply to watches. Though you might not be swimming in a 5 meter pool, brining a 5 meters water resistant watch swimming is a bad idea.

[@lchamp7946]

Yes! I was going to write something similar about the difference between static and dynamic water pressure and that our watches are rated at static pressure. The example you gave is perfect to explain this difference. 😊

[@frag4007]

But dynamic pressure is pretty much negligible. I doubt theres many people diving below 10 meters let alone moving more than 14m per second at which point the resistance of 30m would be plenty

[@Kenji-Tsuyoi]

Yep was going to say the same the water resistance part was totally miss leading

[@ats440you]

A wipe out while surfing or other high energy water sports can create a high dynamic pressure. I’ll stick with my 500+ meter water resistance watch..

[@frag4007]

@@ats440you still over kill because you’ll only find those speed at the surface but if you want to do that thats your choice

[@ethanbluth3211]

Accuracy is a big one for me. I think that a watch should fulfill its main purpose, telling you the time, as well as possible. Chronometers, Spring Drives and GShock multi band watches are all part of my collections because they are so accurate. If I’m justifying the cost of a watch, it’s gotta do a good job keeping me on time

[@Lito-Lapid]

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[@MichielJ71]

I agree. Would like to see more high accuracy quartz (haq) watches. Preferably combined with solar. A Mondaine watch with a Bulova like smooth second hand, solar and haq would be a superwatch to me.

[@ethanbluth3211]

@@MichielJ71 I have never understood why Bulova hasn’t used the Precisionist movement in a less polarizing watch design! I think it’s an incredible bit of engineering, but I don’t like any of the designs they use. Total missed opportunity by them so far. If they put that movement in a more traditional diver design I would buy it immediately

[@MichielJ71]

@@ethanbluth3211 their 262 kHz movement has also been put in other watches, like the Bulova Lunar Pilot, their moonwatch.

[@NatiiixLP]

If you want accuracy, you should never be looking at mechanical watches in the first place. You will always want quartz, or better yet, a quartz synchronized with an atomic clock. If you want a sweeping seconds hand, oh well, then you're left with either the humongous Accutron or the recently overhyped Spring Drive.

[@BradyPuryear]

Hey Teddy, great video. Would love to see the opposite video on under rated features like the micro adjust you mentioned. Maybe quick set dates and things of that nature which are SUPER useful for most wearers.

[@jonclassical5710]

And like Day/Date...I find a date is pointless without the day.......Lol

[@Not_Mark_Twain]

Strong agree. This was excellent on overrated features (I would have added dates and especially days. I don't need 'em on my watch). Underrated is the natural sequel. Example: legibility is underrated. Lug-to-lug measurements are often underrated.

[@ChrisJohnson-yw2ky]

I would like to see every bracelet with at least the option for a sliding micro adjust clasp. I had to find an aftermarket one that worked well and switched it out. Would've just been nice to jave the option when buying. Also, I'd be willing to pay a small premium for a micro adjust

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

There's something to be said for ultra thin watches, if you can say it's a feature. I'm wearing more and more of them the comfort is supreme, it's probably the best feature we lost in the quartz crisis.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

​@@Not_Mark_Twain legibility, that's part why pilot watches and divers are appealing to the masses they can't really screw this up or either they're kinda pointless, for dress watches who cares but that's 10% of the market. It should be a crime to make everyday watches you can't read at glance.

[@JosephMcGlynn]

I totally agree that great lume on a watch is not at all 'necessary', but it is one of my favorite things about a dive watch. Brings a big smile to my face when I walk into a room and it lights up bright. It's not rational that it's high on my priority list, but lume is simply a ton of fun and is something I look forward to seeing.

[@yourvenparianen5390]

Especially on full lume dial watches. They look so cool haha

[@renatearisugawa6612]

Water resistance is an important feature for me. I do not wear my watch while swimming or showering. However, when I'm going to spent my time anywhere near body of water, or when it's about to rain, I will surely grab my G-Shock.

[@eddieguenzel622]

Teddy's potential is insane. Solid production and content, well spoken, good demeanor, and kind hearted. He could be a top tier TV personality. Don't get me wrong, I hope he keeps making watch videos. I absolutely love them, but watch videos have no business being this high quality hahaha.

[@ghjbnbvnnbv9169]

The water resistance one is a bit tricky. You rarely go down to 100 m but moving your arms underwater while swimming/snorkeling etc. increases the pressure that is affecting the watch. I would advise against going for a swim with anything below 10 bar/100m WR. Doing the dishes can also be problematic if you are the Hulk :).

[@rockymntdan1]

5 bar is 72 PSI; so you're telling me your swimming strokes are like 100 psi. I think your just making sh!t up.

[@MrJungle123]

You aren't moving your arms fast enough to cause much pressure.

[@David-fu5kb]

1) Moving your arms makes a negligible difference in pressure. 2) 100m depth is significant pressure: Around 162 pounds per square inch. Way more than you need to go for a swim on the surface. 3) The recreational dive limit is 40m. Any WR greater than 100m is just for bragging rights and is of no practical value. 4) Professional divers wear dive computers, not luxury mechanical watches.

[@markymarknj]

@@David-fu5kb while divers, both recreational and commercial, use dive computers, many of them use a dive watch as a backup; after all computers crash, run out of battery, and so on. That said, you don't need to get a luxury brand dive watch; there are good options made by divers, for divers. One that comes to mind is Scurfa watches.

[@TerraThink]

I remember my mother buying me a cheap 50m watch in Gran Canaria as a kid. I'd jump in the pool and dive to the bottom at like 2 meters, And that watch immediately got all misty inside. Got a replacement and the same thing happened again. So we have two possibilities: 1) 50m water resistance is not enough to even dive 2 meters down and move around under water like hyperactive kids tend to do. OR 2) The water rating on those cheap watches was bullsh*it. They also sold knock-off games for Game Boy around there so this seems quite plausible. Personally, I do believe reason 2 but if someone has bought a reputable 50m watch and then had it leak in the pool, share your story :)

[@triumph2013]

Every point you discussed is accurate. 1) I swim but I don't dive in the deep. I don't need a lot of water resistant 2) I normally always buy an aftermarket strap for a new watch. 3) I don't buy watches to flip or for investments. 4) In the last 13 years, I probably use the lume on my watch maybe 3 times. 5) I prefer screw links, but not a dealbreaker. 6) Is it nice to have a COSC certified watch, yes! Just arrive to your destination early. 7)Heritage is nice, but in a few years some of the new microbrands will be old🙂

[@Gawriify]

i guess its all about your lifestyle...1) i dive up to 200 feet... so i dont need omega 1200m for that... but i like 300-600m on my watch... 2) straps are very personal... i change my straps every 6 months because it makes the watch look different and new. 3) i agree with you there.. i buy a watch because i love how it looks on me and i wear them not put them in a box and pray on them. 4) i use loom all the time in fact besides longines heritage 1945 i have all of my watches have lume. like most of the people i use my cell phone but i rarely pull it out just to look at the time. 5) the accuracy of my watch is a deal breaker for me... i hate to adjust time on my watch because its running +-30s per day. i dont mind 5-10s but 30 would drive me crazy and i would most likely take it to my watch guy to get it adjusted so it runs to my specs. But i do agree there is nothing wrong with microbrands, in fact i own a few of them. Zelos / Baltic / Scurfa just to name a few. i am one of those crazy people that will wear a different watch every day.

[@triumph2013]

@@Gawriify ...Which watches do you dive with? . I luv looking at the lume, I simply don't need it, but it is nice to have when you are at a concert!

[@Gawriify]

@@triumph2013 i have a few... my favorites are zelos hammerhead 2 / movado series 800 (i bought about 10 years ago) / hamilton khaki navy frogman... all of them have great lume... i have a few others but these 3 i use all the time

[@OnizukaGTO]

I love analog watches, grew up wearing an omega speed master handed down by my old man, but when I started to care about being on time, accuracy really became a priority. It also became annoying having to adjust the time every week and change the date every month. In the end, I look at my watch far easier and often then my mobile. At that point only quartz analog became the focus of my collection, not opposed to digital but you just can't beat the elegance of the analog dial.

[@DownTwisted]

1) I'm not knocking anybody, but I love it when people call a $1000 watch "affordable". 2) The problem with not getting an OEM strap is that most people do not swap the OEM signed buckle (the most important part) to the new strap.

[@TRMartin]

I agree with 85% of the list, but lume is super high on my requirements (except for my dress watches) I have many low light situations were the lume is really important: how bright it is, how long it lasts, what is marked, and over all legibility. I need to be able to "glance" at my watch and get the time quickly. To this point I also avoid watches with low contrast between dial and hands for the same reason.

[@TarekMidani]

I get the low contrast and legibility at a glance. But what are specific scenarios where you're actually walking in the dark? Even if you're walking outside at night, humans refuse to allow darkness to prevail by having a light source every few steps

[@porsche911c]

What are some of your recommendations for watches with the best lume?

[@johndavolta3124]

Don't you glance at your phone in the dark instead?

[@g43654]

​@Tarek Midani once you have to feed a baby every 2 hours, you will appreciate a good lume.

[@g43654]

​@John Davolta not if you have a sleep-deprived wife and a fussy newborn in the room.

[@d3xmeister]

Good points, Teddy. A very good watchmaker told me a while ago actually pin and collar is the most secure way to keep a bracelet from undoing itself. I don’t know if that’s correct or not, but he said that this is the only system where he never saw a pin or screw work its way out by itself.

[@highnrising]

I saw on Tim's channel, someone complained that a Patek Philippe that he was showing had pins and sleeves in the bracelet--and that Patek must have been trying to save money. I said, Patek was making a traditional watch. Traditional watch bracelets use pins and sleeves. If I owned a Patek Philippe, I'm sure I'd bring it in to a watch dealer if I wanted to resize the bracelet.

[@IRguyIR]

It is so true. I never had an issue with pin and collar. But I had some issues with screws. You have to use LockTight to secure them after sizing. And some are difficult to unscrew and you have to be really careful not to damage them.

[@romanmichaelhamilton8729]

@@IRguyIR Precisely!

[@d3xmeister]

Here’s the most underrated watch complication: the day of the week. Less and less watches have it. At least where I live, “what day it is?” is in the top 5 most asked questions people ask each other. Me included, I find one of the most useful feature.

[@martinfolkeseth]

Shout out to day complication. Agree one hundred percent

[@highnrising]

For some strange reason, the day feature tends to appear on chronographs, like the Little Prince and others from IWC. I think a chronograph is the last watch that needs a day function: It's dial is busy enough. On the other hand Omega doesn't even put a day display on its annual calendar watches.

[@d3xmeister]

@@highnrising It’s probably the Valjoux 7750 heritage that still lives on. I really don’t buy the “busy” argument. A day complication is very useful, and can be executed in good symmetry. Otherwise anything beyond the Movado Museum is way too busy.

[@mrmyc0rn840]

If you have an erratic work schedule (like me), it becomes surprisingly easy to get mixed up. Then the day/date comes in real handy.

[@rayzhang7591]

Just buy a annual or perpetual calendar lol

[@timmandelcorn3321]

I used to be in the ocean alot, spearfishing, diving, surfing. I am not a serious diver. My deepest dive was 77 feet. Never got passed the century mark. Not gonna lie, once I got passed 60 feet I got nervous. Looking up, seemed like a long way to the surface. 77ft = 23.5 meters. I'm with you Teddy, when I hear people saying 100m is too little, I'm like REALLY???? I get that it is an indication of the cases ruggedness, but after 100m, its rugged for real. If it's a dress watch with 10m, I'm good.

[@Fanasz]

100m on the watch doesn't mean 100m in the water

[@punkypink83]

it's not always about how deep you go though. if you're hitting the water hard and fast often, like i do at my work as a kayak instructor in summer, then having more than 100m really helps with peace of mind. for everyone else who dont work on water, 100m is MORE than enough.

[@TheTimeFarm]

@@Fanasz This is just wrong and needs to stop being repeated. It’s just an excuse for the manufacturer to lie and put a bigger number on the dial. Any ISO rated watch will operate down to its rated depth in the real world. Mark from Long Island watch did a whole video where he shows the math that dynamic pressure is BS. He has a masters in mechanical engineering so he knows what he’s talking about.

[@kozygeorg]

@@TheTimeFarm yes but most affordable divers aren't ISO rated, so if i am buying a seiko to swim and scuba dive with i'd like to see 200m

[@spiderpsx1]

@@TheTimeFarmdid you ever ride a bike under the rain with cheap raingear? Well that is the reason why static pressure is a measurement that doesn’t make any sense in real world, 100 m of water resistance is just enough for a jump in the water and it is a bit disappointing that a person like Teddy doesn’t know it.

[@kellie6496]

Nothing better than waking up on a Saturday, having a coffee and watching Teddy.

[@killpop8255]

Hummmm??? 🤔

[@megasoid]

Good segment Teddy. Good water resistance isn't much to ask for as we all go outside and run into bad weather from time to time. But not 200 meters deep! Decent lume is a big one for me as well. Tritium is my top choice. About straps, yes...100% lol!

[@archygrey9093]

The water resistance ratings are misleading, you can't actually take a 200m watch 200m deep in the water. 200m (or 20 atmosphere) is usually only recommended for activities like snorkelling

[@orwellknew9112]

@@archygrey9093 Maybe accurate specifications is a high value thing then. Some watches that say 200m actually are 200m safe and others are not. It’s like buying a watch that claims to be accurate to 15 seconds a day and it’s actually 45 seconds per day. Or buying a watch that is supposed to have a sapphire crystal but it’s really just ordinary glass. Why are some kinds of b.s. (like water depth ratings) tolerated and others are not (like accuracy ratings)?

[@nickkincanon4582]

Great video, Teddy. I was smiling when you talked about a “checklist” at the beginning of the video. My personal paranoia is anti-magnetism.

[@JamesSnell-rc5xt]

Great list, Teddy! Thanks for having the courage to say what needed to be said about so many of these items. My add would be the screw-down crown. Completely unnecessary from an engineering standpoint on any sports watch rated at less that 150 meters of water resistance. Yet you hear so many KZbinrs and comment-leavers opining that the lack thereof is a deal-breaker for them on watches the outstanding Globemaster, for example. Ridiculous.

[@fan-jo2je]

I have to say accuracy and Lume are to must have for me. I use my watch to tell time so I want it to be very accurate. I use a winder so I am rarely setting the time. A little fast is better makes it easier the adjust. I just like Lume I mean if you have really good lume and you are in the sun then you walk into the shade and your watch is lit 🔥 up yea that puts a smile on my face.

[@assassin2968]

I agree with the accuracy statement 100%... worked in a company where we had strict breaks. On a 5 minute break even 30 seconds off was a big deal since then I would have my short break even shortened. So I always wore my G-Shock instead of my automatics

[@samkuong3121]

Seiko just don’t regulate their watch more accurately, they can.

[@varanid9]

@@samkuong3121 yes; I just got my Turtle regulated and it's keeping up with my Omega Aqua Terra.

[@varanid9]

Grand Seiko quartz; accurate to within 10 seconds a year, with some models having that great Seiko lume.

[@igorpopovych9320]

I really enjoy my Certina with Precidrive movement that has +/-10 seconds per year accuracy

[@charlotteice5704]

Accuracy and lume are really important to me. I want the watch I'm wearing to be accurate down to the second because I just like being really precise, and I don't want to have to set it daily or even multiple times per day. Lume, or any other integrated illumination for that matter, is important to me because I work in a theatre and during a show, my phone is too bright even at the lowest brightness (which I might not have it set at upon turning it on). The illumination button on my Casio F91-W is broken and I miss it every day.

[@moneymikz]

I just ordered my first true Swiss Mechanical timepiece. Found a Tissot Gentleman 80 hour and the last one in that gorgeous Green dial for 33% off, I feel lucky 🍀

[@closewatcher8586]

Hey how about a video on "how complicated is this complication"? I'd love to see a discussion of complications like chronographs, power meters, DST, moon-phases, perpetual calendars, etc.

[@siddharthashankarsaraf7266]

I had serious reservations before purchasing a Seiko Field SRPG29K1. I watched Teddy's video about it and bought it in a heartbeat. Thank you Teddy for clearing the confusion. It is now my go to watch.

[@DavS827]

Totally agree with lume. My Hamilton automatic Khaki has decent lume and I have never used it. It looks neat but if I need to know the time in the dark I look at my phone.

[@zhicaofang2354]

I beg to differ on accuracy (for automatic watches) and lume, especially lume. -While those who yern for ultra-accurate timekeeping can always go to quartz watch, smart watch or digital devices, some occasions do call for a more elegant automatic watch as an accessory, and having an automatic watch with higher accuracy could at least save the trouble of having to adjust time or recalibrate the movement from time to time. -Lume is big for me. Among the features mentioned I believe this is the most useful in daily scenarios. We frequently find ourselves having to take a glance to tell time amid dim lighting, like at dusk/night, in a movie theater, when the street lighting does not work, or at overnight flights during sleeping hours with dim lighting; even the dimmest lume is better than having to scramble to find adequate lighting. I insist that all my watches have lume or a press button for background lighting (Casio). It is also because of this (and the fact that my current working and living situations do not call for it) that I could not make up my mind to buy a good dress watch as the majority of them do not have lume.

[@dilipkumar711]

I completely agree with you. Watches are utilitarian devices first and foremost. The reduction of emphasis on accuracy and visibility will turn watches into a fashion statement rather than reliable tools. I personally prioritise lume and backlight very much. That’s why I haven’t bought a Casioak yet. The negative display and the low comtrast dial is really disappointing.

[@zhicaofang2354]

@@dilipkumar711 I share your concern for Casioak. I am also staying away from that watch for now.

[@baunchakhunts]

Interesting discussion. Required water presure resistance isn't just depth. Water pressure increases based on type of activity such as water skiing or jet skiing, come off at 10 knots, when your watch hits the water the pressure increases greatly. I think it is too easy to demand nice to haves. It is easy to get used to my Astron that is GPS and perpetual calender driven and adjusts easily to the time zone when travelling. Makes my other mechanicals and quartz movements seem high maintenance by comparison and I don't have to charge it every night like my smart watch.

[@vvvhhhhhbb]

Agreed. Especially the reserve. It's not that difficult to wind / set you watch when it stops.

[@pacisking]

I kinda disagree.. I really love putting down a watch on friday evening, put it on on monday morning and it's still running and I don't have to set the time.. Sure it's not the most important thing but I wouldn't say it's overrated..

[@vvvhhhhhbb]

@4lleyezonme it is overrated as every watch that this applies to, will still be running Monday morning. Keeping in mind, we aren't talking about "likes". Just like many of the points Teddy mentioned. For people not to buy a watch because it only has 50 hours of power reserve, makes no sense. If that important, buy a quartz. Not a shot at you mate, just another thing we watch snobs go crazy about. Lol.

[@pacisking]

​@@vvvhhhhhbb yes it does.. I was thinking about buying the JLC Polaris Automatic as an every day (monday to friday) watch but it just has 40 hours reserve which is just not enough for me. If you think reserve is overrated, in that case literally everything is overrated and we could just stick to our 40 Euro Casio.

[@pacisking]

@@anonimushbosh that might count for you, but not for everyone.. If you have more than 5 watches it's just not possible to wear them all. I wear different watches on the weekend than in my office. So yes, for me it is important for at least some of them. I don't care about power reserve on dress watches but surely on other ones.

[@pacisking]

@@anonimushbosh yes I did?

[@barrettwbenton]

One point regarding accuracy of mechanical watches: once upon a time (say,

[@DWilliam1]

The purpose of owning a watch(historically) is to tell time. Accuracy is important, at least to me. Agree about the straps(except for resale) and water resistance(although think 100m is kinda where vI want to be for swimming or hot tubs or cleaning). Since I’m older(late 50’s) I still look at my wrist for the time and if my watch doesn’t have lume (as is the case with a dress watch) and I’m trying to check the time at night it kinda bothers me. I also think screw in links are very important, especially for those who go up and down in weight.

[@Zion-18]

He didn't say it's unimportant. He basically said people sometimes overvalue it.

[@Iexpedite1]

I like historical accuracy as much as actual accuracy. I don’t expect my vintage watches to perform like they did 50+ years ago. However, I appreciate the fact that they were, at one time, the best.

[@DWilliam1]

@@Zion-18 We can dichotomize the words but he was saying it wasn’t that important. It’s OK, I like Teddy but I don’t always have to agree with him. Don’t get me started on his friendship with O’Leary…

[@DWilliam1]

@@Iexpedite1 wise ass.

[@Iexpedite1]

@@DWilliam1 You may have taken this wrong.

[@westonraske8152]

Well thought out and well balanced thoughts, as usual. Glad to hear the quick-adjust clasps weren't on the 'over-rated' list 🙂 And I really enjoy the macro camera work for eye candy throughout. Very polished and professional. Keep up the good work!!

[@jasonchaney5382]

Totally agree with the whole list. None of that stuff really matters. All that matters is whether or not you like the watch. Although... I do use the heritage argument against my buddy that's only interested in hype watches fairly often. Usually in a good natured attempt to educate him. "Your Daytona wouldn't exist without the Zenith El Primero" is my favorite.

[@user-lh8ql5zr5e]

Thanks Teddy, it's always a nice thing for us when you upload a new video!

[@adcpf1844]

I totally agree with the helium escape Valve, and the depth capabilities lol. I promise 99 percent of people do not to go further than a deep end of a pool. Unreal expectations of accurateness too. I feel like complications, basically anything else on a watch is a literal feature that isn't used. More status maybe. If your worried about accurateness, your phone is on a satellite.

[@jpdemer5]

Hell, 99.9% of _divers_ never need a He valve.

[@MikeTremoulet]

Good list. I think the thing with screwed in links and/or water resistance is that they're a proxy for attention to detail in manufacturing/assembly. If somebody made a dive watch with 30m water resistance, which is conceptually dissonant, is the watch itself well made? Does the extra steps and complexity of screwed in links versus pinned links indicate better skill or capability? Neither are a real impact day to day, but it's hard from the outside to really know if a watch is well made or just LOOKS well made, so the signals can matter.

[@PhantomObserver]

About accuracy: For the vast majority of us, I'll agree that an accuracy rate of +/- 10 seconds, while nice, isn't really necessary. Most of us would be content with not being late for an appointment, in which case we either tolerate a watch that's under a minute fast, or set the watch a minute ahead if its accuracy is under a minute on the slow side. (And we may also see resetting the watch to the correct accuracy as a daily or otherwise regular ritual.)

[@James-zl9jb]

Wrt to accuracy, who in day to day life reflects at night over the loss of tens of seconds? This makes me laugh that a loss of 5/10 seconds in a day is such an issue. haha

[@alexharris2995]

It’s a really strange one. Even if you’re wearing the same watch for weeks then of course it will start to lose more and more accuracy over time. But is it such a big deal to make a slight tweak now and again?…it takes seconds.

[@johnnelson9252]

I agree, although somewhat begrudgingly. I have a Hamilton Khaki Field Automatic that gains about 3 seconds per day. I love this watch for a lot of reasons, including this one. I also have a Seiko Baby Alpinist which cost almost twice as much, but loses about 15 seconds per day. I’ll live with it because my wife gave it to me for Christmas, and I’ll do the “Reset Ritual” every couple of days, but I’ll never buy another Seiko, or any other unregulated watch for that money.

[@bobbywatchaddict523]

Great video/ info. I’ve been buying/ wearing mechanical watches (and quartz) for over 40 years. There’s a lot of good advice here. However, for me personally, as an airline pilot, traveling all the time (every week); having a truly waterproof watch is necessary. Here’s the scenario: you’re by yourself at the pool or at the beach on your layover. You want to go for a swim. If you don’t KNOW your watch is water-resistant for say snorkeling (100 meter rating), then you either have to leave your watch alone on your towel or not ever go for a swim. Believe it or not, that’s the exact scenario that started me down the rabbit hole off watch addiction: I started looking for a truly water-resistant watch. In addition, a 10” meter water-resistant watch with a screw-down crown usually also has a more rugged build quality. Just my thoughts. Since I travel the world’s time zones weekly, I have settled on a Tudor BB GMT. It fits my needs, and it’s sizing is okay for me.

[@R8Prototype]

Agreed with accuracy - if it's not over a minute off I'll never even notice it. I use my watch more as a reference time versus perfect time. Power reserve too, most of my watches die by the time i go through my rotation and I'll just wind it and wear nbd

[@vvvhhhhhbb]

Agreed mate.

[@edrader]

my watch loses 2 seconds a day. i set it 15-20 seconds fast and reset the time every 2-3 weeks

[@romanmichaelhamilton8729]

Teddy, you have spoken the TRUTH on all topics in this video. I don't need heritage as much as I want a nice watch that doesn't break the bank account. I also think that Omega keeps that helium escape valve to make the Seamaster feel more important than what it truly is in reality. Like you said, just how many of us have gone deep sea diving this week? (LOL) Concerning the screws in bracelets, I hate them. They Loctite the screws in and if the proper screwdriver or bracelet sizing tool is not used, you can scratch the screw head as well the bracelet. They look nice, but are not really needed. And yes as much as I love the Grand Seiko models, I just can't understand why they don't offer micro adjustments in the clasp. That is what keeps me from buying one with a bracelet. I resorted by buying the 9F quart with the nylon strap for this very reason.

[@sakakibaryo]

I really agree with #7 Bulova for example, is really overpriced for what they are now, especially their Lunar Pilot models that they keep milking and I think you seen enough of complaints about their latest quality for their price.

[@NathanChisholm041]

The Lunar Pilots not overrated or priced. It's a great watch hence its popularity...

[@mr.seyfried1652]

Color grading of this episode is by far the best 👌

[@EnergyEruption]

I find myself reminiscing about the period up to the mid to late 00s where watches were an absolute necessity and most of us would just wear what we had, regardless of WR, solid end-links, accuracy etc. Hell, I even probably wore watches that were too big, purely because they were a birthday present from some 14th cousin or smth! I constantly find myself over-analysing things that never would've crossed my mind in the pre-internet days. (Right now I'm wearing a Debenhams-branded, cheap quartz watch that's slightly over-sized, but that means the world because it was a present from my mum!)

[@lebowskiunderachiever3591]

I just put a battery in my Elgin FM-121 TI my sister gave me a boot camp graduation gift in 2002. Great little watch that has been around the world with me 😎

[@EnergyEruption]

@@lebowskiunderachiever3591 Those are the best! Don't they just remind you of more innocent times?

[@jaysterling26]

Phew, good to know I'm sound ( in Mr B's view) about obsessing over sapphire vs mineral & the quality (& hue) of the anti-reflexive capabilities.

[@stevenhudson6354]

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[@rebeccagilbert7691]

@Carl Garza O' Yes I'm a living testimony of Mrs Victoria Alejandro.!

[@rebeccagilbert7691]

Victoria has changed my financial status for the best.!

[@rebeccagilbert7691]

All thanks to my aunty who introduced her to me.!

[@libbystevens4328]

​@joshua730thphilibus2Victoria Alejandro has really made name for herself

[@libbystevens4328]

I'm not here to converse for her but to testify just for what I'm sure of

[@1RunnerDad]

This was helpful. When I started searching, I wanted high accuracy. I have since decided that less accuracy is just an opportunity to set and admire my future watch. And value never enters my mind. When I finally pull the trigger I am not selling it.

[@urosgorjan9527]

For me, the most important things about a watch are the accuracy of the mechanism, the brand heritage and the materials used for housing and bracelet. I always bet on Rolex, Patek Philippe and Seiko.

[@chriscardwell3495]

Thanks for your list - I eventually worked out my own list of preferences -- then realised, for me, there is only one watch for daily wear. With heritage - I expect companies to regularly update and improve their watch movements - a 30 year old design is not acceptabel. Would like a watch collection that includes a range of different technologies - Co-axial escapement, spring drive, etc.

[@PhantomObserver]

About the water resistance: One of the main problems with watch buying is, there' s no real objective standard to measure a watch's durability; the closest stat we have *is* the rated WR. The shock standard for a G-Shock (surviving a drop at 10 meters) is not a universal one. Also, the thing to remember about WR, especially for those of us who swim while wearing a watch, is the perception that a stronger WR equates to more time actually in water activities before the gaskets need to be replaced. So while it makes sense for a 10ATM WR watch to be looked at after 5 years of use while swimming on a regular basis, a 20ATM watch in similar circumstances can be considered to require an inspection for gasket replacement / pressure testing after 7 years or more.

[@chrismuz]

Good video, Teddy. For me, in order from least important: 1. Original strap 2. Lume 3. Screwed-in links 4. WR (important, though, for my dive watches, of course; I am a diver) 5. Investment value 6. Accuracy 7. Heritage.

[@tanukiboy2972]

The problem with water resistance ratings is that the numbers (30 m, 100 m, 200 m, etc.) don't actually correspond to practical use depth, just static testing depth. In practice, a watch rated at 30 m just means that you can wash your hands without worrying about water getting in. If you went snorkeling with it, even if you never went lower than 10 m, water would get in. A rating of 100 m just means you can swim casually with it. If you took it scuba diving at 50 m, water would get in. That's why 100 m is actually a good minimum. It means that if some drunk guy accidentally pushes you into a pool or you slip while fishing in a river, your expensive watch won't be ruined.

[@hb9145]

Correct!

[@BobbyDazzler888]

Most swiss watches above 10k will never see water deeper than the bathroom sink

[@DaneRThomas]

While I like all of the points that Teddy makes, they should be kept in context. Water resistance is much more important in a watch that might be worn while waterskiing than it is in a dress watch. Accuracy is probably not why one buys a hand-wound model, but it is always appreciated if one is not carrying a mobile phone. Lume (and a high-contrast dial and hands) are much more important in a dive or tool watch than something primarily meant to make a fashion statement. Heritage is more important for impressing others than it is crucial for overall enjoyment.

[@shawnmartin1306]

I find lum extremely important. I wake up to get kids ready for school. I haven’t used an alarm clock in a decade. No digital clocks in the room. So yeah lum is why I actually didn’t get this beautiful Grand Seiko. Super important to me

[@markymarknj]

Teddy, thanks for the great video! I agree with just about everything you said. As for water resistance, I'd like to say this: WR is tested in a static environment, i.e. the watch is at rest. What does that mean? If you're swimming on the surface, you should have at lest 50 meters, if not 100 meters, of WR. Why? Because your arms are moving around, which will put more dynamic pressure on the watch; while moving your arms around as you swim through the water, the watch might see the same dynamic pressure it would see while resting at its rated depth. SO! If you engage in any aquatic pursuits, high water resistance is a must.

[@android61242]

HOw is fucking water resistance over rated? My god.

[@sinjinadams2862]

Let's watch the language! 😁😁 I'm serious when I ask this, what is it that you do in your day to day life that you need a watch with 200m or more water resistance?

[@android61242]

@@sinjinadams2862 My guy having all the openings be threaded with gaskets will prevent ingress of water over time. it will reduce the possibility of corrosion and maintain a superior internal atmosphere. I wash my hands, go swimming in the pool, take showers, swim in the ocean, and even go diving! Humans are around water a lot!

[@talha-khan1]

Valid points outlined and explained clearly. This will help in making future buying decisions,thank you

[@kungula]

I agree with you with everything you said, except the accuracy. My old Citizen radio controlled eco drive watches run for years and still show the correct time and day. However I ordered 2 mechanical watches now and I will have to see if I can live with an accuracy of 2 seconds per day.

[@goatreviews]

Great vid! I was surprised to see Number 3, ‘Accuracy’ as an overrated feature @ 4:47 Which begs the question… what IS your primary feature consideration when purchasing? 🤔

[@MrZPal2099]

Teddy you are definitely the Bill Nye of watches and I always come away from your videos with more insight and knowledge then I came in with. Cheers!!

[@marcgoulding5230]

As usual, great points, Teddy. I've wished that watches were sold head-only. I always switch out the strap (not a big fan of bracelets).

[@ianpark1906]

Your objectivity is always a great grounder. Especially when it's easy to get carried away with the romance of mechanical watches. Looking forward to the next release 😊

[@Manduley]

Amen brother. This is why your channel is so popular and why you will see continued growth in your business. No nonsense, common sense, and not pretentious. The vast majority of people want this, and not the elitist jargon so many try to push in this market.

[@typebflieger]

Agree 100% on lume. Bright lume is cool, but when it’s not there, I have to admit I don’t miss it at all.

[@Baywire]

I think you were pretty spot on for the most part but: 1. I'm def a Lume Fanatic. My friend who is also into watches a bit thinks Lume is overrated. It probably is. But I described it like cars, such as a fancy supercar. You can get supercar "performance" (accuracy, functionality), supercar looks (case, color and finish), but if you want that supercar SOUND, you need good Lume. Lume is the exhaust. 2. I will definitely argue screwed in links are not overrated, they are HUGE value. There's very little reason not to have screwed in links for watches over $500 retail IMO. I think of Seiko Samurai as a prime example, you can get an Invicta Sub Clone with 4R35 for like 100 dollars with the same functionality of the Samurai. Why am I paying so much more for push pin links and the same function. The lume is obviously better on the Samurai but it's not 300 dollars better. While you are correct "how often do you change the sizing?" but for me it's about being able to easily adjust watches without slide adjusters in a milled clasp because I tend to swell and shrink with the weather, I don't want to have to deal with push pin links because the weather changed. It's also less parts to worry about keeping track of. (As exampled by the Zelos Swordfish which is IMO what the Seiko Samurai should be [with the updated milled clasp and micro adjust slider]).

[@vaughan2203]

1. Strap - if it bothers you, change it 2. Water resistance - You won't even be hanging out at 30 feet. 3. Accuracy - Of course. Its annoying to keep setting it. Take it in for service. 4. Lume - Just how often are you in the dark for periods of time? 5. Investment - Buy it to enjoy it. Don't be a speculator. 6. Bracelet links - i hate bracelets. See number 1. 7. Heritage - While that can be appreciated, it should not be a benchmark.

[@matthewarend7197]

As a recreational scuba diver, I’m not sure I would trust 100m on a dive. There is just so much variability in manufacturer ratings. If I’m using the watch as a tool on a dive, I want the ISO compliance and at least 200m.

[@billybenson3834]

Divers I know today don't wear dive watches, they have dive computers

[@matthewarend7197]

@@billybenson3834 as do I, but I always take a dive watch with me as a backup timer. Redundancy is a wonderful thing.

[@gtv6chuck]

I like chronographs but I've haven't used one to time anything in years. I watched a video on how to use a tachymeter bezel and just got confused, and I don't think I would use it even if I knew how to use it. But I still love both.

[@francistheo7123]

Good lesson and thank you for sharing.

[@mikemelvin207]

Teddy, this is one of the most helpful videos you’ve made. We all can get wrapped around the axle at times and evaluate good facts inaccurately. Thanks for an extremely helpful video!

[@daveindevon5240]

Great video Teddy. It's about time somebody with a respected voice in the watch community raised these questions. I agree with every point you made here. Watch accuracy is greatly overrated if, like most of us I suspect, you rotate your watches. Having a watch that is out by 30 seconds or even more in a day has absolutely no effect on my life. However, if you have paid thousands of pounds for a luxury brand, you do have every right to expect it to be running within COSC parameters. Anyone seriously into diving is almost certainly going to be relying on a dive computer rather than a watch, so 100 metres of WR should be fine, allowing watches to be lighter, thinner and more comfortable to wear. This video should be compulsory viewing for anyone starting out on their watch collecting journey. It could help them make wiser choices, and save them a lot of money in the process!

[@archygrey9093]

@4:00 100m water resistance doesn't translate to being able to take it 100m deep underwater. Believe it or not with 100m (or 10 atmosphere) resistance it is only recommended for surface swimming. With 200m resistance you can do snorkelling and other diving that doesn't need scuba gear.

[@steevkeyes]

For me: - Accuracy: not worse than 5 sec/day, 3 is preferred. - Water: 5 ATM is okay, 10 ATM is preferred. - Crystal: sapphire is a must. - Bracelet: must not be integral, to allow changing. - Lume: strongly preferred. - Date: preferred. - Pinned links over screwed (cuz links will be thinner, lighter). - Titanium is a win over s/steel everytime (light weight). - Dial: white preferred over black (more legible). - Chrono: not required.

[@jaysterling26]

Sir /Madam, I agree with all except the white dial, although I do have a couple .I'm intrigued with what pieces are in your collection .Cheers.

[@69dirtydirty]

I totally agree about screw links. Also, I've had screw links come out when wearing a watch (twice, on a different watch) but never push pins

[@TheBluCypher]

I absolutely love watching your videos but I gotta say, I love your outfits as much as the watches you mention. Out of curiosity, where'd you grab the jacket?

[@donaldasayers]

I'm with you on accuracy. I collect very particular clocks; Master clocks and Slave clocks. All the clocks in the house are either slave clocks driven by the masters or the electro-mechanical pendulum master clocks. I do not need to adjust any of them between putting the clocks forward or back, every six months or so. Now they are nowhere as accurate as a cheap quartz watch but they are easily within 30 seconds in those six months. That's good enough. (Actually that pretty fecking good for a pendulum clock, but in historical terms, Harrison et al didn't have central heating to keep them at a constant temperature.) Traditionally you wound your watch in the morning and set it to your house clock, and on your way home from work you set your watch to a public clock and then set the house clock to the watch when you got home a few minutes later. Sound circular, but you reference is a good public clock. hopefully. In Edinburgh the mid day cannon was fired from a watch set by the captain of the guard to a clock in the local jewellers who set his clock from the mid day cannon... Allegedly. Your watch if not automatic is set every time you wind it, so how accurate do you need it? Why are we buying watches again?

[@pacocandano]

Excellent and super informative video my friend! greetings from a watch enthusiast in Mexico!

[@mirkosaligari]

I subscribe from first to last word. Great video Teddy.

[@anthonypatrickmontemayor647]

Hi Teddy. Good points here. Just last Sunday, I bought the Super DS500 M Certina, the orange version. I chose this because I consider myself as an outdoor person. There are times I knock my watch when I get pass a door. With the DS anti shock feature and its nivachrome inclusive, I considered this watch to spend for. The heritage is quite the icing on the cake so to speak. Am a subscriber/follower of your channel. Thank you as always!

[@sonid2338]

Respect dude, been watching quite some of your videos lately, especially older ones. Your lighting and color grading has gotten top notch. May I ask, what you’re filming with nowadays?

[@Vox-Populi]

Funny that you showed the Citizen Challenge Diver when discussing accuracy. Mine is dead on, day after day.

[@dialontrial]

Great list Teddy. Don't fully agree with the screw in links. You won't use it a lot but when you do, its a dream!! Anyway, great video as always

[@carlmullender2941]

A really well balanced perspective, thank you.

[@spex7503]

Great video. People might agree or disagree with some points but it's always important to put them in perspective, which Teddy does here extremely well.

[@alexharris2995]

Really interesting points all of them. I’d agree with every one raised. Especially the ‘accuracy’ thing; the ‘to an extent’ phrase was a really key part of that chapter. I think some people tend to place too much emphasis on accuracy, but as you said, as long as the watch isn’t running crazy slow or fast then fine…certainly for me it is, and I’d imagine it would be for many watch enthusiasts. If you want pin point accuracy, go for a quartz. Great video, Teddy.

[@highnrising]

No, I want high accuracy and I want a mechanical movement. As do most people who buy current luxury watches. That's the whole point. Accuracy is also a measure of quality.

[@tomroberts604]

I've got to disagree with you on one point: helium escape valves are very important. They let me pretend to be James Bond. Personally, I find myself pressing down on it all the time; When I need to use the watch's built in cutting laser, or start and stop the timer on my remote explosive devices, or activate the intrusion countermeasures on my car.....

[@Ditchthemap]

Hi Teddy, I appreciate and enjoy all your content. However there is one thing that that is important to note. a 300m rating means it is waterproof rated at a static pressure equal to 300m depth. However when the watch will likely be subject to dynamic water pressure (watch coming in contact with water with a mass velocity). If you want I can dust off my old graduate engineering degree on the topic of fluid mechanics if you want but I can tell you that the pressure on the watch from jumping in at only 5 feet is many many atmospheres of pressure. Add to that pushing your hands in the opposing direction of the fluid. They should rate the watches with what you can expect to do with them. I wouldn't plan to swim with anything less than 10 atmospheres resistance (i.e. 100m). I hold an advanced scuba recreation cert with nearly 90 dives and I still wouldn't take my Rolex Sub with me on a dive. It is a 'cool to have' but it has not dive computer and it cannot track my 'bottom time' and non-decompression dive time!

[@russellgutmann7960]

Something tells me this isn’t the first time you’ve unpacked these topics, Teddy. Just a sense 😅🙌🏼 amen to it all.

[@LightningWing11]

Agree with the water resistance, even as a lover of dive watches

[@svaz2006]

I can dig the water-resistance claim. Naturally, I don't want to have to take off my watch when I wash my hands or when it rains outside, but I can't help but chuckle putting on my Seiko diver knowing I live in a desert and the nearest beach is either a day's drive or in another country.

[@davixavier3261]

Another great video! Lots of things to consider here. Thanks for sharing!

[@hlk5887]

Good points here but accuracy IS important. If I bought an expensive watch and it isn't accurate I would bring it back. Accuracy is implied in the price. It also means fewer adjustments I had a Rolex once that was off 15-20 seconds a day from new. That was unacceptable! I have a Hamilton Khaki right now that is fast 1-2 seconds a day. What a difference! I can rely on it without having to wonder if it's accurate. All it needs is a reset once a month. One overrated feature in my opinion is the date function.It's hard to get a watch these days without it but it's a bother. I like a watch to just tell me the time without this added complication.I know what day it is lol.

[@andyyoung3233]

Hi i have a Omega Seamaster 300 that valve is for decompression when you saturation dive you decompress in a bell and unscrew your crown on your watch this can lead to a change of time or even stopping the watch so you have that extra crown so you can decompress the watch case safely just thought I'd mention this so many watch experts don't seem to get just what that extra crown is for and call it silly and useless when in fact it's a work of simple genius most dive watches don't have this feature but most dive watches a navy diver or other professional wouldn't use or trust there life to and if your already thinking just be careful with the crown when your compressed for hours or even days you start to feel like your drunk and don't have full concentration, ok thanks for reading love the channel BTW

[@ever989]

Good points. Nice extras but not always necessary. My only point of disagreement is time loss. I want my mechanical watch to be within a minute accuracy or otherwise, what’s the point other than a piece of jewelry.

[@05Rudey]

It's one of the reasons why I believe the Rolex Explorer is the ultimate watch. It does 3 things, show the hours, minutes and seconds thats pretty much it and pretty much all I need. it's tough, water proof and has a reserve of 70 hours. I don't dive to the bottom of the ocean or climb Everest, but I do like to ramble, swim and play on boats from time to time. I don't need the day, date, alternative time zones, a helium valve, a day night globe, a clicky bezel, extra chronographs, a stopwatch, alarm. As my phone can do most of that either better than my watch, or I simply don't need it (helium escape valve etc). All I require a watch to do is tell the time at the flick of a wrist (both day and night) and for it to be tough enough for an adventure (where it might be bumped, thumped and get wet) and still look appropriate with a Tuxedo the next night. The only customisations I need are a metal bracelet, black and brown leather straps and a multitude of Nato's.

[@dandahl5964]

But there are nicer watches for much less that do the same

[@danzodamanzo8192]

I'm a pilot. I need a chrono or timer for engine starter limits and non precision instrument approaches. I need reliability, accuracy but dont care if its off by 20 seconds. I'll quote IWC president on the water resistance "If you are flying and in 50ft of water you have bigger problems." Lume is also important for night flying but that's about all I need.

[@ozspencers]

+/- 30sec for a mechanical is good enough for me because I have a small collection of watches that I choose from according to what I'm doing and/or wearing that day. My watches are, by and large, accessories to my outfit. I have a minimum 'quality' requirement, which is probably Seiko 5 or so but, beyond that, I focus on style, durability and suitability for purpose. I have a bullet-proof Certina DS Podium (quartz) for when I'm bashing through the bush photographing rally cars (pretty beat up but functioning perfectly) plus a range of Seikos, Tissots and Certinas plus a Mido All-Dial GMT (my favourite) accumulated over thirty-odd years. Another of my favourites is a Seko 'Frankenwatch' bought on eBay for AUD30 and, since I fitted a bright red strap, rather cute. So, because I rarely wear the same watch two days running, sometimes swapping in the evening if I'm going out, accuracy is utterly unimportant because, in the case of the mechanicals at least, I always reset them when I get them out of the watch winder. To be honest, unless I swap over to my reading glasses, I can't tell the time to better than a minute or so anyway and I'm retired, so it's a good day when I can remember what bloody day it is, let alone what time ... 🙂 Oh and I'm currently shopping for a green (dial) watch because the Seiko 'Cocktail Time' Mojito I bought was a disappointment. In most lighting conditions, the dial is effectively black. The colour only appears if a bright light hits it at just the right angle. A Mido Ocean Star 200C (green dial) is heading the field at the moment!

[@Fanasz]

for accuracy there is solar power and radio wave sync casio ant citizen watches. There is citzen watch that can adjust by GPS .

[@stuartcarden1371]

For me, the only deal breaker on your list is lume - If a watch says it comes with lume, please for the love of everything make sure it's decent. I constantly go back to Seiko because of this issue. I've had expensive Swiss watches that have far worse lume than my $120 Seiko 5 which drives me CRAZY. If you can't be bothered to do the lume properly (Swatch Group) then just don't bother.