7 Pitfalls Hollow Knight Silksong Must Avoid

I am crazy excited for Hollow Knight Silksong. I have been thinking about this game a lot. As I got to thinking, there are a couple of things that Team Cherry needs to avoid in order to have a GREAT game.
Let me know if you agree or disagree with this list.
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[@admiraltrench2508]

Ready for a mod where Hornet only says SHAW

[@RelyeaGaming]

after every attack! why not

[@headless.sleeping.soundly]

we dont need a mod, thats going to be in the base game

[@silvey640]

@@headless.sleeping.soundly True lol

[@wirelessriver7]

Or get gud

[@mattstephens6137]

So pumped for this game!! I hope they have a sophisticated charm system similar to the first game. The charm combinations were so versatile and fun to test different charm combos. Even the animations changed with the combos. Loved it.

[@joaoamaro1408]

At this point any thing Silksong related is a blessing from the Heavens

[@RelyeaGaming]

I can't wait

[@nlsluckyegg8771]

@@RelyeaGaming 0:14

[@lucasvega3276]

@@RelyeaGaming I'M DESPERATE :'( D: D: D:

[@game_master2267]

A Joni’s blessing

[@kryptos4812]

@@game_master2267 so true

[@ErPaniX]

"The next thing Team Cherry needs to nail" Hehe, *_n a i l_*

[@ninjiinc.8883]

*ITS A NEEDLE NOT A-* edit: yea hornet got the needle off of the black market instead of a nailsmith

[@gjamogirl9044]

@@ninjiinc.8883 huh I see your point

[@blackknife5410]

@@gjamogirl9044 not a point but a fact boi

[@apaxtoa]

@@blackknife5410 think it was a joke "Needlepoint"

[@ErPaniX]

@@ninjiinc.8883 In Silksong, yes, but in Hollow Knight it's Nail. But since they are in the same world...

[@natmarquetti]

Team Cherry watching this video: "oh well guess we need more time"

[@user-dm6bl7yd6m]

no, no!! god pls no

[@nolasmor]

I hope they take their time... Mainly bc i don't have money now ;-;

[@thewanderingartists]

@@nolasmor if you're from India I'd buy you a copy on steam.

[@DamageMaximo]

Take your time, Team Cherry.

[@savary5050]

@@thewanderingartists Damn that was a huge assumption Edit: I get what he was trying to say now, don’t come after me pls.

[@HydroniteTB]

It would be funny if hornet says “GIT GUD” after you beat a boss

[@St4rStormy]

The final boss there's a cutscene where hornet just holds up a sign "git gud".

[@solar901]

Or rather, after you lose to a boss.

[@philippebaillargeon5204]

git push origin main

[@purevessel4506]

Silksong final boss better be a combination of a primal aspid soul twister and crystal hunter

[@RelyeaGaming]

oof

[@JCsmooth_]

Primal Soul hunter is a pretty cool name

[@uiopgamer4647]

The three horseman

[@pillowcaseee]

@@uiopgamer4647 OF CHAOS

[@princeali8862]

And obbloble

[@derbackalacker2824]

The thing I’m most worried about is wether or not it will ever exist

[@SBImNotWritingMyNameHere]

It'll release tomorrow :)

[@fakehatti]

@@SBImNotWritingMyNameHere yes

[@trashkun7354]

@@SBImNotWritingMyNameHere if it somehow does i will make a shrine in your honor

[@moonlight...3754]

@You know this face I would not have hope for that

[@derbackalacker2824]

@@SBImNotWritingMyNameHere don’t do that Dont give me hope

[@finn488]

I think hollow knights combat felt so fun (for me) because it emphasized positioning over quick reaction speed, it also is easy to learn but hard to master due to the small movements that the knight makes after doing each attack or spell and using the up-strikes to negate the knock back in some situations

[@RelyeaGaming]

I enjoyed it as well

[@uiopgamer4647]

Zote the gray prince noises intensify

[@Salmonwithfeet]

i love fast paced combat. its so much funner and skill based. If I made a game, i would want my character to have one health and fly around the place like a madman.

[@DivyeshVartha]

It still has fast paced combat though

[@lychee6361]

@@Salmonwithfeet have u tried ghostrunner? I think you’d like it

[@subarute9304]

The thing I’m the most worried about is the tools system

[@cloudy772]

Yeah I’m afraid they will become basically like consumables that I never want to use

[@rollingkirby]

I remember there is a theory of various types of tools with the colored sections on the tool menu

[@zankisfine3816]

I’m worried that the boss fights will be impossible without tools if the shards run out. I don’t want to grind enemy spawns

[@bigchungus1280]

There are going to be a lot of passive tools too, so who knows how well this is going to work

[@_.Dylan._]

@@cloudy772 That’s what I loved about Hollow Knight that there were so many constants and no one time use things because like you said I’m too afraid to use one time things ever in video games

[@1stAid]

We haven't gotten any huge Silksong news in a long time yet you're still making Silksong-related content, impressive

[@RelyeaGaming]

every once in a while I can't stop thinking about it

[@JCsmooth_]

Can you believe the initial trailer came out 2 years ago

[@snakes7303]

@@JCsmooth_ Its crazy

[@seankeogh8134]

Yes, but there will be news soon. I hope

[@1stAid]

@@JCsmooth_ And the Nintendo Treehouse where it looked like they were playing a completed or nearly completed Silksong was about a year ago. They told us "soon" back then, and the Treehouse made it look like it really would be soon. "You keep using that word [soon], I do not think it means what you think it means." Edit: good job if you got the reference

[@hollowboi]

so ready for new lore! ready to find out where the first game fits into silksong

[@RelyeaGaming]

Yes! I want to know how it fits in

[@swordfish8857]

im guessing its a prequal

[@harshmalhari8519]

@@swordfish8857 same

[@BK_._]

Or it could be completely new everything in the realm of possibilities

[@tooky3923]

do a "wishlist" what you want to see in silksong

[@anhondacivic6541]

Mine would be an area like the path of pain

[@RelyeaGaming]

Can do! I don't think I did a wishlist as of yet

[@enormousbun]

@@anhondacivic6541 personally I'd consider that a mistake considering how many hours I wasted on it LMAO

[@solar901]

@@anhondacivic6541 that's one of the things I hope for the most. Optional hard challenges.

[@bort3624]

@@anhondacivic6541 i used to hate it but then i finished it and got sad that we don't have any other areas like the white palace and POP

[@HollowSoulBro]

They need to prapare it to its fullest, don't release it early. Fix all the bugs, test everything out so it doesn't end like cyberpunk

[@RelyeaGaming]

I wont be THAT bad for sure

[@ianshaw6997]

I would honestly pay sixty bucks just for twenty minutes with the demo

[@harshmalhari8519]

Lol bugs

[@captncuddlybear9404]

Idk, to get rid of all bugs they would have to remake the entire game.

[@Cangaca777]

The thing about the lore that you mentioned and that I think they did a great job in Hollow Knight was that even the background tells you a story. if you pay attention to it you can really see or guess what happened in that area. pretty clever and subtle way to introduce lore to the player. and they will probably do the same in Silksong.

[@RelyeaGaming]

I can’t wait to see the lore Silksong has to offer

[@anhondacivic6541]

I love to see musical details like the soul master's theme having the same leitmotif as the city of tears

[@RelyeaGaming]

interesting

[@laceylopp7039]

It’s the same composer, i guarantee you 100000% that they will have this :)

[@anhondacivic6541]

@@laceylopp7039 good cos Christopher larkin is a god when it comes to music

[@hussyweissshutup1275]

Soul masters, city of tears motifs always gives me chills. its so good

[@pogfection787]

My biggest worry is that, like the new Repentance DLC for The Binding of Isaac (which brought me back to the game after I left it to play Hollow Knight), people will find it too different, too hard, or try to treat it exactly like Hollow Knight, and end up hating the game because they aren't used to it. It's actually a huge problem going on over there right now, and similarly, it's a Sequel-Sized expansion that took four years to make.

[@RelyeaGaming]

That makes sense. Hopefully people can judge this game on its own

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Frankly, I'll be happy as long as there is a big world with beautiful environnements to explore.

[@TheJobKnockey]

I agree, one of my biggest gripes when I first saw silksong gameplay is that it looked too unfamiliar from the environment of hollow knight and a lot of new mechanics are being added, so it seems more to me like a spinoff than a sequel, and going into it with that mindset is probably gonna make it much more enjoyable.

[@Awesomeflame16]

@@TheJobKnockey let's be real Completely new kingdom Playing as a character that's more flexible and agile than wet spaghetti Of course the gameplay looks much different, if hornet just jumped and slashed like the knight, it wouldn't make sense or feel right. Because she doesn't ahs is way more agile the platforming is obviously gonna be much more different I think it's more of a spinoff, and more so just a sequel in terms of release

[@polen2077]

day 6 of commenting until you talk to elderbug

[@RelyeaGaming]

I will talk to elderbug now

[@uiopgamer4647]

@@RelyeaGaming good job

[@parchmentengineer8169]

Communication with Elderbug will now be commencing.

[@nytrix765]

@@parchmentengineer8169 indeed

[@simonvalentino5197]

I really want Silksong to be just as mysterious as hollow knight. The felling of creepiness and mystery that you get from your first play through of hollow knight is amazing, and I really hope they can bring that feeling. But, Silksong is going to have brighter colors so maybe not.

[@DivyeshVartha]

(spoiler from the revealed character) Well there is an NPC that asks for corpses to feed her brood, so I bet they haven't forgotten about macabre stuff

[@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070]

brighter colors won't stop that feeling

[@micopen6719]

Hollow Knight's lore was almost completely show don't tell, and it was great. I think that the lore and the quest system are going to be so different because Farloom is alive, it isn't a fallen kingdom so people just have stuff for you to do, they can talk to you about their opinions on things. All things that were sparse in Hollow Knight seem like they're going to be more of in Silksong.

[@RelyeaGaming]

I think that sounds about right. very interested to see how it goes

[@wh3elson]

What… I know this comment is a year old, but hollow knight, was almost completely TELL. What’re you talking about? The only thing that was shown to us are the cut scenes, and there are barely any. Even the story and back story was all being told from 3rd party dialogue…

[@thefrogggy100]

@@wh3elson same could be said with text. there's barely any, most of the lore is through designs and other characters telling.

[@bigboiplays7743]

I worried about being overhyped for Silksong lol

[@Bef_stew]

Me too, I feel like any small issue will be criticized because of the fact that Silksong is so hyped.

[@RelyeaGaming]

That is something that we each must work on

[@maikatase]

I’m just hoping for a decent metroidvania.

[@ninjiinc.8883]

don't worry, the wait will help the hype die down

[@yagottapaythetrolltoll3127]

@@ninjiinc.8883 actually it might do the opposite, but I see where you’re coming from

[@2_Elliot]

I feel like team cherry really has to get the currency system right. In hollow knight for instance, geo becomes so pointless later in the game, (not counting divine), and you can very easily buy out every store. You can have the opposite happen as well, which is not having enough currency, and being forced to do mindless grinding. I do enjoy grinding, but to a point.

[@RelyeaGaming]

I think the over abundance of geo late game just goes to show how pointless money is when the kingdom is dead. No merchants left. You are ‘rich’ in a dead kingdom with nothing to buy. May have been done on purpose

[@bblank_1278]

@@RelyeaGaming Omg I never even thought of that. Genius. Thinking about it they may have really done it on purpose - after all, it's so glaringly obvious. So much geo, not enough stores. Throughout my whole first playthrough I was so scared to lose my geo and was practically begging for a shop XD Wonder how they made losing geo devastating (early game) and absolutely worthless (late game) a part of the lore, that's so cool

[@M_1024]

It could be so that more money you have, the less you gain. So if you are low on money its easier to get enough, but if you have alot you will not get that much so you would't have absurd amounts of it

[@Listaru]

One thing i’m hoping for on the lore side of things, is for there to be a library of some sort where you are able to rescue books, and then go back to said library and read them. I think that would be a great way to balance lore, because you wouldn’t have to see it unless you wanted to.

[@christophvonpezold4699]

YES

[@banilo1022]

Yeah! And there could be an NPC there that's like "Oh my library has been ravaged by bandits (or whatever)! Traveller, could you please fetch my books?" And it would give you quests to get certain books

[@TheJobKnockey]

@@banilo1022 Oh boy I sure do love fetch quests

[@harshmalhari8519]

To replace grubs?

[@vbflame5645]

I want a baby Hollow knight easter egg in Silksong, that would be amazing

[@pennedpenguin4300]

I think my only criticism for silksong will be is that the lack of things from hollow knight (No im not sad cornifer won't be there *Sobbing intensifys*

[@RelyeaGaming]

I hope there are some soild connections to HK

[@jamesmoore7755]

@@RelyeaGaming i'm really hoping we get to fight iselda, considering they travel a lot, it's not impossible.

[@kirboo34]

I just want at least one character from HK to return in silksong, someone like grimm would be amazing.

[@user-th1pv6ks5o]

I just want the Old Stag's hope to be not ill placed. So if the new transportation system in this game is related to the stags; my heart will be happy.

[@Ax0lotl12]

Team cherry:- sees this vid3o Also team cherry: we need another 2 years to fix that problem.

[@A_cracker14]

I think you mean 10 years

[@Ax0lotl12]

@@A_cracker14 oops I actually meant 20

[@Enderbro11x]

E3 in June - I pray for silksong news or release date

[@RelyeaGaming]

Same. hoping we get something this year

[@snakes7303]

Hopefully!!

[@tuckerhaines881]

Nintendo did sign up for E3 so...

[@kirboo34]

@@tuckerhaines881 watch - they're going to show silksong but it only says 'coming soon'

[@smijo5949]

@@kirboo34 "coming out somewhere between 2021 and 2025 (probably)"

[@oscarc2079]

I personally much prefer getting lore through gameplay (like walking through a ruined place) than finding lore through cutscenes.

[@iceyboi3492]

Why can’t they just make a pre-game demo so we can play what they did in the E3 convention 😭

[@RelyeaGaming]

I want to play the Nintendo demo from 2019 SOOO bad

[@zankisfine3816]

I said the same thing on Reddit, one guy mentioned that we are probably gonna play it so much that we master the movement and combat

[@Naokarma]

@@zankisfine3816 To be fair, how much of the game would be identical to the beginning? We'd get good at the beginning stuff, but we both know that in HK, your skill of one boss does not equate to your skill in another.

[@zankisfine3816]

@@Naokarma I mean yeah but still

[@plate1014]

@@Naokarma even if it did come out now i wouldnt play it tbh id rather go in a blind as possible

[@lindsay2346]

I definitely don’t mind game complexity and lots of exploring - but I agree, there needs to be more benches/stag stations. I’m thinking of Kingdom’s Edge - it’s so gross to have to go back and complete something out there. No easy way to get to it quickly! Hopefully TC will make traveling a little more streamlined in Silksong. Can’t wait to play alongside you, Relyea! I know you’re going to make our lives easier.

[@RelyeaGaming]

I will likely be slower than you and others. I will do my best to keep up

[@Jean_Jacques148]

I agree, I maybe the fast travel systems will be more interconnected so travel will be easier in already explored territories.

[@A_cracker14]

Lol if you’re complaining about hollow knight the super Metroid travel is 10x more infuriating

[@lindsay2346]

@@A_cracker14 oh dang. I’ve never played Super Metroid!

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@A_cracker14 Super Metroid's world is ten times smaller, and if you know what you're doing, you can skip a lot of backtracking.

[@mr.kittenface1671]

Im so excited for the new songs! The first two sample songs were superb, I want more!!!

[@RelyeaGaming]

I need to listen to them again

[@Adolin.Kholin.]

Yess me too.

[@PaperEater_]

Wait where are they?

[@mr.kittenface1671]

@@PaperEater_ go to Christopher Larkin's KZbin channel and scroll down to the two vids with Hornet on them.

[@bblank_1278]

Do they have the same music writer as HK? Cuz if so IM HYPED

[@fishfood3518]

I can just imagine a loot box system: want needle upgrades? 5% chance in $50 lootboxes, silk restores? 10% $100, new charms/tools %0.05 in $150 boxes

[@RelyeaGaming]

oof

[@solar901]

please no

[@bblank_1278]

team cherry loves us they would never

[@mollysandera991]

What if they used lootboxes, but not require real money to get them? It would mostly be found across Farloom, but some amounts could be found in shops, too

[@NoahJG]

for me the quest system is the most worrying, i feel like with hollow knight when you found quests, they didn't feel like quests, when you find the grubfather for the first time, all you see is a sad bug, then when you find your first grub, you feel good about helping the bug, and have more intrinsic motivation to help the grubs, and the thing is, it doesn't even feel like a quest, it feels like you are helping someone, and in return getting something, not as a granted reward, but as a gesture of thankfulness from the grubfather. When you have a structured quest system though, the quests feel more like chores, you don't care about the actual task, because all you are focused on is the reward, instead of these things occurring naturally, you just click a button in some UI, and you initiate the quest with a reward in mind. that being said, its team cherry, they will probably find a way to make it work.

[@RelyeaGaming]

you are right. I hope it doesnt feel tedious. And hope we don't have to do them one at at ime

[@Lorenzo-tl6xb]

Lmao, the lootboxes at the end were unexpected

[@RelyeaGaming]

I figured someone would like that

[@martinherrera25]

Sorry for my ignorance but what is a lootbox?

[@Lorenzo-tl6xb]

@@martinherrera25 Is that thing in videogames where you get a random rewards by "opening a box". Usually games give you the option to buy them with real money and it is basically gambling, this is why they are a bad system and get a lot of hate

[@martinherrera25]

@@Lorenzo-tl6xb thanks for explaining! hmm i don't think TC would ever do that, they don't seem like the type of game company that does that

[@Lorenzo-tl6xb]

@@martinherrera25 yeah, they would never do that and also Hollow Knight is not the type of game where those things really fit. I think Relyea was joking

[@retard202]

About the fast travel system I think they did a very good job at it because they forced you to explore more

[@RelyeaGaming]

that is true

[@bblank_1278]

@@RelyeaGaming But endgame it was rly annoying tho

[@luketudor2251]

Interesting point you made about the lore, I think that was stated really well. Although, I think that is one area where Team Cherry absolutely excels in storytelling wise, they know how to show and not just tell you what is happening and allow it to come up in a natural way; through your own curiosity. For me, I'm hoping they have a greater focus on character development in the story, particularly with Hornet. I felt the most powerful moments in Hollowknight were when we had a chance to really see and empathize with the characters. It still sticks with me when you find Hornet grieving her mother whom you've just killed. It was a tragic and beautiful moment that allowed us to see, feel, and sit beside that character and believe in them and their story. I think Team Cherry kind of had their hands tied when they developed Hollowknight, because they forced themselves to work with a silent protagonist. While there are major benefits to this, poor Ghost didn't have much of a personality. With Hornet, I believe they have a lot of new opportunities to explore in dialogue and character interactions that will naturally expand upon lore (like you're hoping for), and make us feel attached to these characters, their world, and believe in their struggles so far from our own. Anyhow, best of luck Team Cherry, the world is a better place with you all, your imagination, and your creations. For all of the high hopes and criticisms tossed about, I send you my encouragement! You have inspired me to work on my own creations, and that is noble. Kind regards, Luke Tudor

[@bblank_1278]

I also think team cherry had their hands tied with the silent protagonist of the knight. I absolutely cannot wait to see what they will do with a speaking protagonist.

[@hiiistrex2838]

Yay, something to do for 10 more minutes of waiting for silksong

[@RelyeaGaming]

I got you

[@sphereoffice7789]

You forgot about one mistake that Tema Cherry has to avoid Primal Aspids and Petra mantises

[@christophvonpezold4699]

Don't forget crystal hunters and soul twisters ;)

[@ikmor]

Yeah, there need to be more of those. ;)

[@pelican7235]

i lost my delicate flower run 3 screens from the end cause of a petra mantis today ;-;

[@bblank_1278]

If I see anything even remotely Primal Aspid-looking I am running for my life. They have thoroughly traumatized me lol

[@bblank_1278]

@@pelican7235 my condolences

[@BraveLilToasty]

Imagine if SilkSong remembers if you have talked to ElderBug and will criticize you for not doing so.

[@harleyharmell2547]

Idk why this made me think of undertale lol

[@Ezel_142]

I love Hollow Knight but one thing I think Team Cherry needs to focus on in Silksong a little more is accessibility options. As a person who beat nearly everything in the original HK, there were a few moments where even though I'm not epileptic, the flashes or screen shaking did hurt my eyes a little bit. This could be even more problematic to people who are photosensitive and I think an option to change the screenshake sensitivity or reduce some flashing effects would be useful. I get that it might make a few effects a bit less epic looking, that's why I think that should be an option you can alter in the settings, with it being off on default

[@bblank_1278]

I agree!! I can't help but look away from some specific boss intro screens because it hurts my eyes (cough im talking abt u, endgame OP cockroach) and wish they had some effects settings. Screen brightness, screen shake, special effect intensity and stuff like that

[@bobafett987]

@@bblank_1278 Endgame OP cockroach?

[@bblank_1278]

@@bobafett987 self explanatory

[@bobafett987]

@@bblank_1278 who’s that again? Remind me please.

[@bblank_1278]

@@bobafett987 radiance... XD

[@y4hiko543]

I hope hornet still says SHAW during fights

[@RelyeaGaming]

I sure hope so too

[@capabletie7187]

And GIT GUD during boss fights

[@TempestRex_]

I don’t remember where I heard this information, but regarding the tool system, Team Cherry said in an interview that “unsurprisingly, we ended up with about 100 or so different benches.” Of course, that might be greatly exaggerated, but either way there will most likely be many more benches than Hollow Knight due to the tool system.

[@RelyeaGaming]

Yes, I saw that as well. More benches but with a bigger map as well

[@bblank_1278]

@@RelyeaGaming I'm lowkey scared of how big the map is expected to be, I barely learnt where everything in HK is and even now sometimes I get lost trying to get to places lol

[@grismatics]

I'm so early that the only comments here are from channel members.

[@RelyeaGaming]

that is quick

[@spamton1996]

Hornet on her way to get chick fil a after a god moth gets killed

[@citrine6959]

I like how Team Cherry is so good at what they do is that WE ALREADY KNOW this game is gonna be amazing. We’re just waiting for it.

[@justsomeguy2825]

Everytime someone posts something about silksong, my heart skips a beat, thinking the release date has been announced.

[@ianshaw6997]

I know it's torturous

[@whatthewhatthe9117]

Relyea really just called out my homeboy hive knight huh?

[@skyemoore428]

That fan art is so good!

[@RelyeaGaming]

right?! GAJS_Draws does amazing work

[@ralseidafluffyboy131]

Avoiding to forget releasing the game is a thing Team Cherry has to do

[@Reel-zu8ld]

My main concern with the bone shards and tools is that players will never want to use them. It’s the same trap that players fall into with item hoarding where we hoard our finite resources because “we might need them later.” In this same vein, I worry that it’ll be hard to be motivated to use Silksong’s tools during the majority of the game. I hope Team Cherry can give us an incentive to use them and break through this hoarding mentality.

[@RelyeaGaming]

That makes sense. Well said

[@AnimeRayanne]

This reminds me of when I played Resident Evil 2 lol. I horded so many herbs and ammo cause I didn't want to run out. 😅

[@teamvlcn6820]

One thing I want for the lore is to be able to reread it at later points without restarting the game. Hornet could have a home base where she can store all the information she collects throughout the Ascension.

[@solar901]

8:10 basically my thoughts to every mistake from this list. I like to think that they take their time making this game to polish it enough to not do mistakes like these. I'm not very worried about things that were already done perfectly well in the first game. If Team Cherry could do it once, there's really no reason they will do less perfectly this time. Things I'm worried about: - In the interview in Edge it was stated that this time they leant slightly more into detailing combat over platforming. It's fine but I hope there'll still be a fair bit of platforming, and hopefully a challenge at least on par with White Palace. - I really hope that lore of Silksong will interweave (pun intended) with the first game's lore and expand it in a meaningful way. It's a Hollow Knight game too after all so it should be solidly connected. In particular I'd like answers or additional hints to many things that were left unexplained.

[@bblank_1278]

I'll disagree on the lore. Someone else said that it's a sequel, not meant to live in HK's shadows, especially with lore. I think we'll be dealing with a whole new kingdom and a whole new cast of characters which will have nothing to do with HK. I think that's fine, HK was great but it should be left in the dust by their future releases if they want to keep going up.

[@GardenVarietea]

Coming here right after the XBox reveal of the second Silksong trailer, I'd say that some of the platforming looks intense! Not super tough, but I'd say I would probably die to the platforming a couple of times.

[@teaenthusiast6193]

I’m a bit worried of how dlc might be handled or if they’ll even exist

[@RelyeaGaming]

Hollow knight has a solid 3 'DLC' which were just content expansions for free

[@vbflame5645]

Maybe there would be a Stag DLC or another Lifeblood DLC

[@WTCAT500]

Zote dlc

[@omarzobal8621]

you liked path of pain? here it is path of agony, no achievement, just git gud

[@luckyrice672]

Myla dlc

[@conrade3988]

Unrelated to the video, but its SO satisfying to see you now. I was there when you had 20k sub, and you totally deserve 100k. I just love it. Hollow Knight brought us together. Thank you for all the tutorials 😊

[@cthulhuwua5354]

I'm really looking foreword to a quick and tight combat system that doesn't ever feel like it slows down. I can think of a few bosses in hollow knight that were pretty slow and had a small move set and were therefore the most forgettable bosses. I just hope that the reaction time for certain attacks from enemies isn't too short.

[@Zeldinion]

Gorb springs to mind

[@RelyeaGaming]

It will be interesting to see how quick some of the bosses are

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

I'm nervous that the new healing system could make the game either way too easy or way too hard.

[@ii9368]

Silksong has been the only thing in my mind lately

[@RelyeaGaming]

I know the feeling

[@jkstcibg]

I know that feeling.

[@Iamverykarpy]

One small thing i dont like about hollow knight is how staggered enemies still have hitboxes, its especially annoying when im in close combat with pure vessel and he flops on me without a warning, hornet had also given me troubles with this and one time lost kins staggered body slid into me while i was busy healing

[@Agentsquirtle]

Really nice video Relyea! It’s been really cool seeing your channel blow up since the days of ye old Hollow Knight.

[@benjaminhellman6301]

I think Team Cherry is going to knock it out of the park, they're taking their time and know what they're doing. I just can't wait to play the damn thing

[@timtam3730]

All I know is that Silksong will definitely come out before Yandere Simulator.

[@sunbro8744]

Just subscribed! Love your channel!

[@FyterianTV]

Great video as always Papa Relyea! 555

[@mrtyphoon8923]

With each passing day, I'm becoming more and more convinced that Silksong and Elden Ring are a collective hallucination. A mass psychosis.

[@pogfection787]

Well, if we look on over to the Binding of Isaac Community, they just got their game that they've been waiting 4 years for so I'm sure Silksong isn't too far away.

[@RelyeaGaming]

it will come in time. the more time passes, the closer we get to news

[@mrtyphoon8923]

@@RelyeaGaming I just hope the delay doesn't mean that Silksong is in development hell. I hypothesized at one point that Team Cherry might have had problem with balancing the tools system, similar to how player had to either buy or farm spirit emblems in Sekiro.

[@DivyeshVartha]

@@mrtyphoon8923 Aren't spirit emblems plentiful? I poured all my money into them before bosses a few times and they lasted throughout the game

[@mrtyphoon8923]

@@DivyeshVartha by the late game, yeah, but at the beginning, when you suck, and have to attempt boss fights several times, not so much, especially if you want to use prosthetic tools against mobs Their availability is certainly helped by them dropping from enemies

[@gurp8298]

Hollow knight lore is in my opinion the most interesting and honestly the best, so I wouldn't mind if the game was jam packed of lore, but yes, I do want to play the game

[@SplintlyYT]

I was watching this video then realized you have 100k subs! I remember being here when you had 7k, good job on growing so much!

[@RelyeaGaming]

Thank you my friend. 7k was 2-3 years ago! I appreciate you sticking around

[@dgnu]

Hype is a curse for games. I don't want to expect a lot from SS because then I can't get disappointed, only surprised. Just because HK was so good their next game doesn't have to be a masterpiece

[@captin-ds6xj]

I couldn't agree more. Seeing everyone else so hyped makes me scared that they will be let down because it won't be another hollow knight.

[@RelyeaGaming]

very well said.

[@viivikemppainen7157]

The biggest mistake is that Silksong isn't announced yet

[@GrapeeparG]

I'm just worried it's gonna be another year or two until we get the game. Also the tools thing, dying and not being able to repair them when you need them to fight some bosses sounds terrifying.

[@tommys_hobbies]

@Relyea I picked up Hollow Knight fairly recently and only finished the game yesterday. Your videos were an absolute godsend for helping with some of the trickier parts. I just wanted to say thanks for the fantastic content.

[@yiannchrst]

Love seeing your videos!

[@beef_baby]

I just realized the person in the gameplay doesn’t know you can slash up and down

[@LighttSpruce]

fr

[@NilakshMalpotra]

I'm also worried about the systems being too complicated, I loved the simplicity of hollow knight. If tools are hard to repair I'll just end up hoarding them and not using them lol And yes I mostly go for nail builds to conserve soul to heal you guessed correct 😂

[@AnimeRayanne]

Lol same. I actually forget about spells most of the time. I'd rather use soul to heal.

[@mihneamare2289]

I love watching all of your videos and your *how to find ....* or *how to defeat ...* helped me a lot thanks!

[@RelyeaGaming]

Happy to help!

[@brurosset]

Hello Relyea! Great video! Hype for silksong

[@RelyeaGaming]

Thank you!

[@monalisa3549]

"The most important thing team cherry needs to nail..." Me : Heh, nail...

[@kakashilover9231]

that is, if it comes out

[@RelyeaGaming]

true

[@victoriatran4063]

Yeah I hope that the lore/exploration aspect of silksong is intertwined well too, I liked how hollow knight had scattered bits and pieces you discover about the setting as you explored

[@zkryia]

I love seeing you talk while there is silksong gameplay in the background, it's a pretty good idea!❤🍌

[@RelyeaGaming]

Thank you

[@eladblaier898]

something TC need to avoid: having a combat system that is not tight

[@RelyeaGaming]

Theat is the focus of the game so I am hoping they nail that one

[@Mo-fz1to]

That is the dopest stache’ I’ve ever seen.

[@etudeee6037]

I really can't wait for silksong. Relyea you're awesome haha

[@RelyeaGaming]

Thank you

[@snakes7303]

I just really cant wait for all the theories and tips and tricks and ughhhh PLEASE

[@RelyeaGaming]

There is going to be so much content released once the game drops

[@symon1033]

It's kinda feels bad not having dreamnail, you can't know bugs real thoughts you can't see ghosts and can't challenge them, I hope, that there is gonna be something equal to match dreamnail, that's it.

[@RelyeaGaming]

maybe we learn more through music somehow??

[@huntergamingzx7799]

I am kind of worried about the skills and tool combos system. I mean, Hornet might get her Battlecry: SHAW! In the final game, or maybe she'll get her classic needle throw but upwards or downwards or something. Now about the tool combos, it might be a thing like in Hollow Knight. There were charm combinations, so maybe Team Cherry will keep up some of the classic pace and add tool combinations into Hollow Knight Silk Song. Also, I am sure that this will be one of the hits of 2021 when it releases. I hope this opinion and information helped some people.

[@RelyeaGaming]

:-)

[@bblank_1278]

Def a 2021 hit for sure

[@gepardos8752]

2021? I don't think so.

[@bblank_1278]

@@gepardos8752 sighh

[@Sawcybui]

2022. I don't think so

[@dokchampa9324]

Relyea saying Team Cherry shouldn't force lore is like him saying a fish shouldn't climb a tree. Like, I don't think it was planning on doing that anyway, buddy

[@VeryPersoon]

I really hope that they don’t change the map system. I heard a lot of people complaining about the map system in hollow knight. But, I personally loved it... and I have a friend that is horrible with directions that loves it aswell.

[@osobatalentu6944]

+1

[@kura29]

The question is, which do mistake so you think they're most likely to make? My fear is that they over extend and make the game too complicated.

[@RelyeaGaming]

My fear is that it relies too much on the quest system and becomes too linear

[@swordfish8857]

im beginning to imagine that the game is gonna have so many secret stuff its secret stuff is gonna have secret stuff

[@pillowcaseee]

Doug Bowser confirmed theres gonna be a direct at E3. If that isn’t silksong, or any news of the sort, I dont know what is

[@enirmo4917]

Best example I can give for the tool repair system and the lore problem is Ender Lilies. You had a limited number of spells in that one but it never felt too bad, there was always a bench before major bosses and even if there wasn't, you could still save up some of your spells for the boss if you were careful. I think what we've seen from the trailers shows us there will always be benches before bosses, or maybe almost always, since the room before Moss Mother is a big one with a bench and if I remember correctly, the room before the Lace fight also had one. What I didn't like about Ender Lilies and I think Hollow Knight does this very gracefully, is the way lore is handled. Ender Lilies throws literally all the lore at you in the beginning, with cutscenes and characters pausing to talk about it, but you don't understand a thing until the end. It's so much lore that you feel like you should be listening but your concentration just leaves the room because it's too much. I don't think that's TC's style, so I'm not worried about them giving us too much lore.

[@NUTella_enjoyer]

I'm in dire need of more Hollow Knight content, you don't know how glad I'm that you uploaded this.

[@RelyeaGaming]

Happy to be of service. I'll try to do at least one HK video per week. plus the live streams

[@uiopgamer4647]

How did you make this comment one hour ago if video was released 56 minutes ago

[@gdbku6600]

I would like a massive map with lot of detail

[@krishc.8980]

i would be surprised if they still dont avoid some of these things after 2 years of thinking

[@Schy]

7:17 Scary... Can't wait to watch your playthrough of Silksong!

[@andyruwilliamson9692]

Relyea I love your vids you made interested in hollow knight and thanks for the toturials too.

[@dwiprasetya4873]

At this rate people are gonna make a hollow knight loot box mod out of boredom

[@RelyeaGaming]

lol, you never know

[@greyman8335]

I just got into hollow knight, bought it like 1 month ago and absolutely love it. The only thing i wish were different is that Geo doesn't become almost completely useless halfway through the game. I wish there were more merchants or that they atleast had more stuff to sell.

[@bblank_1278]

"I think the over abundance of geo late game just goes to show how pointless money is when the kingdom is dead. No merchants left. You are ‘rich’ in a dead kingdom with nothing to buy. May have been done on purpose" Relyea said this on a comment above and I have to agree. It's a part of the lore lol. Beg for merchants but there wont be any, it's a dead world on its last breath. You can stumble upon a gold mine and be happy, but at the end of the day you can only have so much geo because there isnt anyone else to take it. Even the merchants dont have anything to spend their geo on. In a world on its last breath, money doesn't matter at all - could get you some help from your fellow bugs, but no more.

[@emiriye]

You are talking about great and overshadowed points actually! Although if I not know wrong, Team Cherry already "completed" the game before you made/released this video. Regardless, it's very well thought, researched and observed. Instead of milking the hype, you gave some common sense to it, in a way. Thank you. I think it's a good time to finally sub.

[@tiagoaversa3060]

I just realized that when this game comes out the whole community will be working together to figure out the lore and hidden locations and this time I won’t be 2 years behind

[@purehollow4460]

The only thing I hated about hollow knight was the backtracking to bosses , the benches being too far from them , this is a criticism for dark souls too , it's just pointless, doesn't increase the difficulty it's just waste your time on boring walking I don't get qhy developers do that ? Is it lack of confident in the bosses difficulty ? Or do they want you to spent longer time in the game with anyway necessary , if you are confident your boss is hard then you don't have to make me go a very long way back to him since I wanna spent that time fighting the boss So yeah boring backtracking is unnecessary in silksong , hopefully team cherry avoid it

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

It really didn't happen that often. Bosses like Broken Vessel, Nosk or Soul Master let you open massive shortcuts, even if the initial path to them is pretty long. Bosses like Hive Knight and Traitor Lord are likely far enought into the game that you'll have essence to dreamgate. Mantis Lords is the only boss I can think of that had a super far away bench while also being an early game boss so no dreamgate.

[@purehollow4460]

@@legrandliseurtri7495 those shortcuts are so hidden that I sometimes only find them after beating the boss it self which is useless by then , and soul master I bet you anyone actually found his shortcut first playthrough without searching on Internet , I didn't know there is a shortcut until few weeks ago which made me frustrated, why do you panish the player for going the wrong way , you made it a luckbased thing that some people may go to the shortcut on the right but some other people may go to the left where. The boss exist , they won't have a chance to find the shortcut

[@purehollow4460]

@@legrandliseurtri7495 also its not easy to know that there's a boss ahead so you might enter his arena and get trapped like the broken vessel you won't know it's a boss untill you go to the end of the arena , which sucks someone will have a very bad luck for just not going to right where the shortcut is and not knowing he is in a boss arena

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@purehollow4460 I guess those are things that can happen. The main game was fairly easy for me, so I didn't die a lot before NKG and Godhome anyway.

[@purehollow4460]

@@legrandliseurtri7495 I didn't say the game is hard , none of the bosses are hard , I said the backtracking is boring as hell You need usually 1 to 5 attempt to a boss which would normally take 5 to 10 minutes but because of the backtracking why ? You increased the hours of playtime but what cost ? The game being boring I understand anyone who quit this game and dark souls you spent more time backtracking to the boss than fighting the boss itself, it's a lazy move to make the game longer rather than actually making the bosses challenging

[@LighttSpruce]

its been 2 years 💀💀

[@RelyeaGaming]

They must have seen this video and had to make some changes

[@LighttSpruce]

@@RelyeaGaming😅

[@pelican7235]

When I played hollow knight for the first time, I thought that there was a stag in each area; I felt so betrayed in crystal peaks

[@staggvr2708]

May I suggest reacting to “TAS Hollow Knight PoH Any% - Any Bindings RT in 15:34,” published by methylpalladium? I watched it, and my brain melted 💀