I ask this question how it seems to me knowing nothing about construction: why pay extra for a shipping container when you still have to build your wooden/concrete/metal frame inside the house, cut out holes for windows, cut out walls presumably to combine containers for bigger rooms, cut out doors, cut out floors for wiring, etc.? that's what I don't get. everything about building from shipping containers seems to be the same as traditional methods - you just go to the extra cost of buying a shipping container. maybe calling it a scam was a bit hyperbole however, if we do not take her so literally, the woman in question's video seemed to be focussed on this underlying and what seems to be a very valid point. why pay extra for the container? it seems not to be more convenient/more inexpensive but rather more work, more expenses incurred.
@janegoodwin18233 жыл бұрын
A great house. That's what 10s of 1000s of people all over the world have gotten using shipping containers.
@MrsBotany.3 жыл бұрын
@@janegoodwin1823 And so have millions of people using wood, bricks, and clay. It's not special or more affordable.
@K1ngmo_MB2 жыл бұрын
yes you are right it’s just it’s not a scam that’s what is his point they both have valid points it’s just how you use your resources if you can save 20% on cost like she said on making a house with shipping Containers then a traditional house that’s a lot what you have saved but you can do that with almost any Material or resource
@ContainingLuxury2 жыл бұрын
For us building a hurricane rated structure is so insanely expensive, and then the fact of building something that will far outlive a standard home built of wood. There is really no other way to even come close in comparison with current labor rates and material costs combined with building codes in hurricane zones in south Florida. Convention homes make sense in most applications but not all!
@FatBoyzAreUs2 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury my guy, did you just go "with current labor rates"? are you wanting to pay your workers LESS??
@b3armonk4 жыл бұрын
I’m from the construction industry. I watched both videos. And coming from Belinda Carr’s PoV, it’s pretty much nailed it. Yes, the word scam is pretty exaggerated but the point of the video she posted is shipping containers are not worth it in some cases and she is addressing that misunderstanding that shipping containers are a replacement for conventional buildings. There will be suitable use cases for shipping containers but it has to be weight out and in most cases it is just not worth it.
@williamharris14853 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯 she was on point with the facts ..could she have used a better word to fit the narrative of what she was saying yes but English is a second language for her so she did a expert job on laying the details out on every angle..5 star review from me.
@geekzsti3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure people realise that. Its just more suitable to their needs. Who would want to live in a container if they had the money and land to build a home. I think she (BelleCarr) realises it but just wanted views via controversy. She did admit they werent exactly scams and could have rephrased it but still chose to use it to draw people in.
@b3armonk3 жыл бұрын
@@geekzsti why are u people so triggered by the clickbait? That's not the point at all!
@peterthesneakybastar2 жыл бұрын
@@geekzsti Nothing is a scam as long as it’s disclosed what people are getting for what they paid for ahead of time. It’s the false advertising that makes it a scam. Not the product itself. Beneficial or not, shipping containers are almost always advertised as being much cheaper and more practical than they actually are. That’s exactly what makes them a scam
@somebodyelse47863 жыл бұрын
The scam is that people are given the impression that shipping container homes are cheap. There was even a lot of talk about shipping containers being the solution to the housing crisis in poor countries. But this is false - the container homes are NOT cheap. The modifications needed to make them habitable make containers just as expensive as, if not more than, conventional homes.
@vagabond7342 жыл бұрын
@@Unpopularity a container homes sealing is 8’8” depending on the container you choose, if you want another level to your house, stack another container on top of the other…are people around you 8ft or something? Sure you can be more extravagant with your lines with wood, but someone who is into crate homes, aren’t looking for that, i’m in asian modern architecture which is typically very boxy, so are crates so it’s perfect for me.
@darleyt12 жыл бұрын
@@vagabond734 I would like to the evidence that they are the same price as a conventional home to build. Your looking at upwards of 200k to build a small house in the UK, small container home max 80k or am I being naïve?
@vagabond7342 жыл бұрын
@@darleyt1 It really depends If you do it buy yourself Hell yea 80k is realistic, If you buy a single tiny house, get a 2k-something crate, two, maybe even three; Cut reinforce save you a bunch in labor costs, The most expensive parts would be the container/containers, Electricians and Plumbing (If you decide to get one some people somehow figure it out themselves), and foundation depending on the type , but if you budget right you could get 80k easy while picking up some skills on the way.
@darleyt12 жыл бұрын
@@vagabond734 Thanks vagabond good to know, I'm looking at options as 1 bed flats smaller than a container are going for 150k, which to me is robbery, stupidity or both.
@vagabond7342 жыл бұрын
@@darleyt1 OOOF highway robbery for sure hope you get what best accomadates you best :)
@truegallant3 жыл бұрын
lol this is how scammers make "what I sell all day long is not a scam" video. 🤣
@eatmysashimi2 жыл бұрын
As an architect, we always weigh in the pros & cons. SWOT Analysis (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats). As I understood, building with shipping container stands out because they are undeniably durable, waterproof, and takes only days to build. In my area, it is customary to build with concrete. Hence, one house (big/small) takes months of labor. Not to mention the purchasing and delivery of materials back & forth the construction site (from concrete, sand, gravel, roofing, etc.), those things empty your wallet in no time. Yes, you still have to pay for the delivery of the shipping container and likely rent a crane to stack it up. But those takes hours/days - not months. And if you've experienced getting hit by earthquake/typhoon while waiting for concrete curing. Man...
@kontoname2 жыл бұрын
Can I ask what area you're from? Because I don't know of a single area on this planet (Earth) where you can't get access to framing construction. Even indigenous people use it since ancient times so I'd be really interested where on this planet an architect will find that people have to build micro- or tiny homes out of concrete without alternatives... Sorry but your statement sounds like either you're completely off-topic or you're eventually not even from the industry.
@divinee.15511 ай бұрын
@@kontoname fool the dumb wood is not rot, fire, flood, disaster proof the container is!!!!
@jkholley11184 жыл бұрын
She said you can build a similar sized home from local materials better and as cheap as converting a shipping container while avoiding the major problems like condonation in the walls and heat cold transfer and she is right. Facts are facts.
@Akira-nw4jl4 жыл бұрын
the SCAM is not that you can't build one but that it costs MUCH MORE than what people are told. That's not being uneducated, it's just being honest.
@alexjimenez92143 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Calling it a scam revolves around the fact that using containers isn't environmentally friendly, isn't as cheap as promised and it is not going to solve the global housing crisis as it has been advertised in the past.
@magnus33john3 жыл бұрын
@@alexjimenez9214 Errr wtf?!! recycling containers is environmentally friendly as it with any material. Price depends on the market and area but by and large its cheaper then traditional materials in many cases. Also where do people keep getting this as some magic fix for the housing crisis? It was always about recycling and helping the environment not some magic hosing crises fix. Your taking advice from an architect who never built with the material , who never built metal structures and gets basic facts hilariously wrong.
@alexjimenez92143 жыл бұрын
@@magnus33john Saying reusing any material under any circumstance is environmentally friendly is reductive. There are plenty of resources out there explaining why you have to consider a lot factors before building one of those houses and if you type "housing crisis" next to "shipping container" you also get multiple news outlets from several countries advertising them as a solution.
@MichaelPhillips-jw4bj3 жыл бұрын
@@magnus33john ahh did you even watch the original video kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2jcdnewa8d2nLc ? , most shipping container homes are new containers, not recycled. for good reason too . Getting shipping container thats out of use ( taking one from use means it needs to replaced,, then we get the wood vs steel home carbon footprint . Wood wins that one. Plus shipping containers homes can require specific insulators. That can be worse for the enviroment ) , but in still in good shape is very hard. They travel insane distances and are beat too all hell. You can't even imagine what most go through. They are also used to ship all sorts of toxic materials. Thats why in places like california. You can only use a container thats been used once, so you know exactly where n what was inside.. Another big factor is the regular containers are 8.5 feet tall.. Once flooring, piping etc is put in you barely can fit (watch the orignal for exact details) . Most people get the 9.5 foot custom order.. Again making a new home from wood is better for the enviroment vs a shipping container
@09BiGDylan3 жыл бұрын
@@magnus33john that was the whole point of her video my dude
@timothyvu70063 жыл бұрын
This isn't a rebuttal video.. it's more of a clarification. Everything she said is true and you haven't disprove any of her points.
@MPPG6632 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. She's an architect...I can't believe he called her stupid. How rude!
@EddiTaru2 жыл бұрын
She is kind of stupid. This guy build them every day and she seats in the office and never been inside one.
@K1ngmo_MB2 жыл бұрын
hahah what you don’t see the point either the both right at the end of the day it’s basically saying that it’s not a scam but it would be better saying that in her points of saying it be better classified as why Shipping containers are not Efficient in creating homes with. either way . also he did disprove of some of her points and yess it was rude that he called her stupid but they both have good points
@gimmedimmy65332 жыл бұрын
@@K1ngmo_MB He said it was stupid. He didn't call her stupid.
@K1ngmo_MB2 жыл бұрын
@@gimmedimmy6533 I know haha you have to please some people hahah
@alfgwahigain55443 жыл бұрын
"Hire an engineer". Sure, for your cost-effective shipping container home. Checks out.
@saint.rahrah36633 жыл бұрын
Same way you hire an architect
@JUDALATION7 ай бұрын
it cost 2 k to hire an engineer...
@Francis__D3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get this video. You seem to agree with everything she said. You just don’t like that she used the word scam? I’m not sure what point you are trying to make here 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ Will it make you feel better if she renamed the video to “Shipping container homes is for morons and here’s why?”
@_HMCB_3 жыл бұрын
😂✊🏽
@ceyciemateo94113 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@coalmine96663 жыл бұрын
Agreed. He spends the whole video agreeing with her, but salty that she used the word scam. And statement one of the whole video was him calling the woman he was agreeing with "stupid and uneducated."
@bobjob36323 жыл бұрын
Saying container house are cheap and fast to build and heavy duty is a scam.
@saint.rahrah36633 жыл бұрын
Look up Andrew Camerata he legit built one the smart way
@barryconnolly73244 жыл бұрын
Shipping containers make excellent sheds. Once you start to insulate and modify to meet code, you will soon find out it's more costly and constraining then just nailing together some 2x6's and adding metal siding. Correct it's not a scam, it's just dumb. Ask anybody who has built a shipping container home who is not trying to make money off the process and they will tell you.
@daveton90334 жыл бұрын
@Barry Connolly : It a Choice, It is still a free Country ! It goes for anything in the world, there are more likes Pros. and Cons...Not always Right and Wrong! People loves their house strong, bullet proof and last for a very long time...that is why they choose shipping container to build their house! you think you are choosing wood and frame is the smartest idea? the concrete guy will call you stupid too! again pros and cons....choose what best fits you!
@grandierdelacour1944 жыл бұрын
@@daveton9033 The main and only problem just like the lady actually want to say in the "scam" clickbait video is that Shipping Container homes are often advertised as a much cheaper way to build homes instead of the more traditional methods which is totally wrong, the expense to spend of the two methods are just equal.. So yeah that's the biggest misleading issue about shipping container houses, they're not cheap!
@daveton90334 жыл бұрын
@@grandierdelacour194 : I reply cause he calling people dumb! and I explain there is only pros and cons! like you do anything in the world , always do your own research b4 you get into it! It is your own fault if you do not do your own research! that is all what i am saying! I am neutral on any the choice of materials ! they are all good if you do it right!
@AH-qk9ms3 жыл бұрын
@@daveton9033 you can do your framing from wood, concrete or steel depending on weather where you're from and all the rest of it - that's all fine. but if you use a shipping container, you still have to build a frame AND you have to cut out the floor for wires, plus holes for windows, plus doors. plus unless you get the right size containers or combine containers, your rooms are limited to the size of the containers minus the diameter of insulation. nobody is stupid for thinking container homes look like a neat idea from the face of it, I think the op was simply communicating when you look beyond the surface level you see buying the containers are just an additional expense and effort that doesn't make any sense.
@daveton90333 жыл бұрын
@@AH-qk9ms : You just repeat what i said, won't make you smarter!
@avp19574 жыл бұрын
I am glad to see somebody addressing that KZbin Video.
@ContainingLuxury4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@yrenecedeno21774 жыл бұрын
Yes!, DONT MIND THEM!!!. Go and get in debt with a bunch of thousant dollas and stay like that for almost half of your life.... I ONLY WISH I CAN PUT MY HANDS ON ONE....
@bunnypeople4 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury time to dogpile on that woman who raised valid concerns, eh?
@enysuntra13474 жыл бұрын
@Ruthie Bella Mrs Carr points out that the modifications, generally(!), make it unsuitable. It is, simply speaking, better to use wood / bricks and use a Container/Flat floor plan without the Container inside if you want a "container home". Theoretically, you could also build a house out of ice blocks in Alabama; the walls would have to be highly insulated and frequently cooled, but it's possible. Containers ("giant rusting heat-sinks") are not that senseless, but a runner-up. In Germany, energy-conservation legislation made the insulation of facades mandatory. After some years, we discovered now thousands of houses are coated into materials hazardous to fire and needing toxic waste disposal eventually. That's unfortunately exactly the materials you must use to insulate a steel container, because the alternatives for stone buildings would rot on a steel container.
@riopato20094 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury You realize that KZbin Video suggested your channel as the only channel to follow when considering building a container home? It was a follow up to the video she started and the reason I found your channel. Good looking out to other KZbinrs with differences of opinions especially those who has a professional perspective.
@lisat.35183 жыл бұрын
containing luxury spokesman sounds defensive and rationalizing. take the "constructive" criticism from belinda, hiring and modifying is expensive, as is buying a new container and transporting it, bottom line. sorry to burst your container bubble.
@magnus33john3 жыл бұрын
Except she no expert and intentional misleading people for clicks. When you say something like putting a whole in it weakens the structure but purposely don't mention this happens with any building material your not doing it to inform anyone your doing it for money and attention.
@Metalrasputian3 жыл бұрын
@@magnus33john I mean, yeah, that's her point. It needs to be reinforced, but people have the misconception that not all parts of a shipping container are structural. Which, much like other frame constructions, is untrue.
@magnus33john3 жыл бұрын
@@Metalrasputian That's not what she actually says though. She says it weakens the structure but purposely leaves out the fact this is the same for any material. When you start admitting facts to try and make a point your putting out half truths. Not everyone going to be aware of this and she knew that trying to make her case. Much better videos give people all the facts and let them decide and don't pick and chose the ones to provide. Her video a opinion piece nothing with little to no actually facts in it. Would you take advice from some on how to fix your care because the know how to fix a boat or would you take advice from a car mechanic? She never once built a metal structure or worked with it but apparently she a expert lol
@Metalrasputian3 жыл бұрын
@@magnus33john Yeah, in the original video she mentions that the structures need to be reinforced. I don't understand how that's different or misleading for any other material. She never claimed the steel sheeting's behavior was abnormal, she was talking about the misconception that the containers are somehow immune to that property. You're making up a point out of whole cloth.
@soehokgie3 жыл бұрын
@@magnus33john She said, it weaken when you cut it. So, it need to reinforced, either with wood, or steel. She cleared the assumption that the whole container actually structured, not just the frame. To me, her vid is neutral, she showed the problems, and the possible solutions. Funnily, all her solutions is similar with this containing luxury guy respond!
@bryanebrahimmargolis49693 жыл бұрын
I feel like big issue here is the word "SCAM"... other than that the young lady's video is on point, she is basically outlining the misconceptions, hidden cost and disadvantages to alert people.
@vincentr24652 жыл бұрын
Container homes are advertised as a groundbreaking, revolutionary, affordable and an environmentally friendly housing solution. In her video, she makes a full argument and valid points to debunked each and every one of those claims. And in his own words: “scamming is when someone is lying to you”….”is when they like promise you something but the reality is you don’t get anywhere close to that”. So yeah, kinda sounds exactly like a scam to me.
@GuillermoLG5523 жыл бұрын
You have convinced me that container homes are not a scam, they are just a gimmick.
@ContainingLuxury3 жыл бұрын
They are a novelty item, if you like them build it, it’s your home, and in the right application anything can make sense
@whiteknightcat3 жыл бұрын
LOL. Calling an architect with more expertise than this guy will ever have in five lifetimes "uneducated on how construction actually works" would be like ... me calling a professional engineer ignorant because I built a bridge they said was structurally unsound and yet it's still standing (for now). Stating that one would only lose about "3 inches" on an interior wall because of insulation already demonstrates this guy is the actual scammer.
@_HMCB_3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. 🙏🏼
@magnus33john3 жыл бұрын
You got one thing right but that's about it. She is a architect but she hardly a expert or has any expertise's on the subject. She doesn't work with and has never built a metal structure and gets some very simple things hilariously wrong. Also your insultation comment actually makes no sense and this engineer is having a wtf moment at it
@alg3n3203 жыл бұрын
@@magnus33john what simple things does she get wrong?
@magnus33john3 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhh didn't look at their background di you. One has quite abit more experience then the other.
@whiteknightcat3 жыл бұрын
@@magnus33john The proof is in the pudding. Or maybe the urethane. Just because one builds these structures doesn't necessarily mean the customers end up happy in the long run. My understanding is that many eventually discover that such structures end up costing more than they imagined, and regret having invested in them.
@busytoday4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the architect lady wins all the arguments here. Nobody would live in a shipping container, however well modified, given the choice.
@markwilson-nyc4 жыл бұрын
I came across your channel after watching that video, because in her follow up video she said that on your channel you show how to build a shipping container home properly. It was primarily a comment on the fact that people are sometimes are enthusiastic about shipping container homes but there can be drawbacks (albeit with an arguably click-bait title).
@bunnypeople4 жыл бұрын
Wish he would've watched that one before posting this.
@tshepomofoti45584 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you .
@darae39364 жыл бұрын
"Enthusiastic" people who don't know how to do research. Which he points out in this video. It was cery irresponsible of her to put out a video with that title. Many people will now think shipping containers are a scam no matter what now. And its obvious he has a business to defend.
@WagnerJ4 жыл бұрын
@@darae3936 They are a scam when people sell a characterization of these container units as being cheap, easy and efficient. They are not! and they are not for the very reasons Belinda argues in her video my friend.
@creestee083 жыл бұрын
Hes just salty. Hes in the business and probably shut off the part where Belinda praised his channel. Now i hate him. Lol
@enysuntra13474 жыл бұрын
No, désolé, you didn't succeed responding to +Belinda Carr's criticisms. It's not only a #scam if you take money and don't provide anything, it's also a scam if you promise the most cost-effective economic solution while delivering a more expensive, less suitable one. Belinda Carr quite obviously meant this. Her criticisms are only "answered" using #strawman arguments. EG: She said contamination was a problem. You "answered" this was why you recommended buying new containers. She then brought up the problem of sustainability to use one-use or new containers because you repurpose something that'd better serve in its designated rôle. Then suddenly, you speak about one-time use containers. Now what, take one-time use containers or buy new ones? (I personally would try to get a Reefer food container, PW (Euro-Pallette wide), they tend to have a certification to be harmless to transported food. However, I am a total layman here.) +Belinda Carr's criticism is that steel containers only seldomly offer the best solution; and those are, eg, disaster shelters / container hospitals. They are made of specialised containers, not recycled shipping containers; are treated to last, thereby becoming energy-intensive; and are not made because of environmental concerns, but to have an office/dorm/hospital/processing site to be set up and dismantled easily for the duration of a disaster situation or construction of an office building that can't be closed during the time. This totally stands. Her criticism sums up that it's generally *always* better to use regional and/or traditional building materials for permanent structures, because inner and outer insulation and structural fixes in the end mean you have to build everything regardless of the "buried" container, AND the steel walls mean you cannot use eco-friendly materials for steel perspires. BTW, I'd rather use a Flat than a Container as basis, and Mrs Carr's shelter example DOES seem to use Flats, ie, Containers without roof or walls. So if you cannot utilise the structure of the Container/Flat to begin with (and steel rusts - or has to be treated beyond the footprint of any conventional structure!), you simply have no advantages of using new or used Containers or Flats left. Even using a wooden structure in the shape of a Container/Flat stack means you can use natural insulating materials (because you no longer have a powerful heat sink inside condensing the hell away) and, for the masochistically inclined, still have Container size constraints. While I surely would use a discarded food container for a *temporary* *summer* cabin if I got one cheaply, to use Container buildings outside of their special applications by choice is, and always will be, almost everywhere the worst solution ( *especially* in port settings, where the problem isn't only condensation water, but *salt* water). To try to convince deciders (municipalities combatting homelessness, eg) otherwise so they chose container buildings over, eg, a wooden / regionally sourced structure then is, indeed, a #scam.
@AutoMotivate4 жыл бұрын
I agreed on most of your points. However, she mentioned the fact that using a 1 trip container is bad for the environment and your combating response was explaining how shipping containers will be recycled no matter what. But, with simple math you’ll notice that the supply and demand for the 1 trip containers will get higher. Therefore, more steel needs to be processed.
@ContainingLuxury4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, your thinking containers are only being made for these homes, but they are being made everyday all day for shipping goods across the world, so the supply of containers doesn’t change, only the demand for new which will only drive the cost up and lower the cost of the used, which is good because the people building the crazy ones don’t care about money and the people that need to save money will now have a better price on the used due to a surplus of supply. At the end of the day, the reason they are all here is because more containers come in that go out, so they are not being reused, that’s why they are selling them, they don’t have a use for them
@AutoMotivate4 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury Perfect reply man, thank you. That all makes sense, and even if it did raise the supply and demand of the new ones, im sure its not by much. Enjoying your channel man. New subscriber!
@kzhemh4 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury you said in one of your videos that you recommend using a new container.
@tinman14353 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury Good point, most of the people commenting about cost don't seem to realize that it's cheaper to ship a container from lets say china and abandon it than to ship back empty.
@larryjeffryes61683 жыл бұрын
As apposed to felling trees. Building a house WILL have an environmental impact. That also bears consideration.
@dovahkindragonborn98274 жыл бұрын
i see shipping containers as built in framing and siding ... so figure out the cost to frame and put siding on a structure with the same dimensions as the shipping container and if it is cheaper to buy a shipping container then it is a good choice ... for example, how much is a 1 time 40 ft container? 4.5k? is that cheaper than framing a 320 square foot structure with 2x4s with corrugated metal siding every cut or modification you make to the shipping container extra just lessens the cost effectiveness of the build ... but the people who make those elaborate shipping container houses know that and do it regardless of the costs if i used a shipping container, i would be make as few modifications as possible and using the siding of the container as the exterior i think the only "scam" here is people clicking on youtube shipping container houses and not understanding the costs it takes to modify them into extravagant structures
@bunnypeople4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and that's was she was saying. She literally said that the scam was that container homes are marketed as CHEAPER alternatives to traditional structures. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZvFmJerlq2Sbbc
@robertspears25324 жыл бұрын
Excellent, spot on comment! The rebuttals in this video are weak and inconsistent with Ms. Carr's original points. Had this been a live debate, she would have blown him out of the water. The points she was making is that the reasons for shipping container homes: are cost, ease of construction, durability etc., are a farce. This video supports her arguments 100%.
@enysuntra13474 жыл бұрын
...now factor in that, indeed, you cannot use "organic" (porous, rockwool, clay, straw) insulation because the steel perspires (and will rust away). OK, chemical (styrofoam) insulation generally is cheaper; however, disposing it if you break it down requires special waste disposal. If you want to have a cabin or shed, a shipping container may be an option; a Reefer food container should have non-toxic certification, insulation and AC. But for a permanent structure, it's cheaper and lasts longer to use traditional materials of your region. Look at the example of a "Container-based" disaster shelter in Mrs Carr's video. You'll notice they don't use Conteiners, but Flats (Containers without walls and roof). If you see one (or a temporary Container office), look a bit closer at the treatment of the steel; you'll see the steel has been treated expensively and energy-intensively against rusting due to weather or perspiration. Container buildings are great if you need to air-lift or ship a structure at a moment's notice into a disaster area, or during construction. For everything else, the drawbacks simply supersede the advantages. Even if they *may* be cheaper to build, remember the big heat sink you have to heat up in winter (which becomes a heating element in summer, BTW) and waste disposal, and you'll calculate that over its lifetime, any building cost benefits will be eaten up and reversed in favour of a wood or brick structure.
@MeGawOOt993 жыл бұрын
The issue of affordable housing prices aren't determined by the actual house. Its by where that land sits. Most houses are like 1/10th or 1/20th the cost of sale of the real estate. So the affordability of housing should focus on telling people to move far away from major cities where you can buy a ranch with a house the size of a mansion for $250k than buying an apartment in NYC for $1 million.
@thinkoutsidethecontainer4 жыл бұрын
Your video is a sober and evidenced based take. I've had a few container home hater trolls leave comments on my channel and their arguments are almost always bad and there's bitterness to them - what are they ACTUALLY triggered by?
@JorgePetraglia20093 жыл бұрын
Think Outside The Container : Although your question wasn't directed to me, I will take the liberty of intruding. Do you know what they are actually triggered by? : is just fear of anything they don't know. By the way : I enjoy your channel as well, amigo.
@SimpleVisionVideos3 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, the point of the video you are arguing against was to shed light on the reality of what goes into making a shipping container livable, maybe using the word "scam" in Belinda's video was not the best choice but it's true that it's not as simple as buying a shipping container and putting furniture in it. Is it a scam? no. Can people potentially be misled into thinking shipping container homes are cost-effective and are a good use of materials to reduce waste? yes. Of course each case is different.
@dianale52183 жыл бұрын
I appreciate her points on health risks
@weeevan30782 жыл бұрын
They get cleaned and disinfected prior to use
@PankajDoharey3 жыл бұрын
She is right it is not environmentally friendly. It takes more energy to make container homes made of iron than Wood because More emissions to make iron than wood.
@fbiagent96663 жыл бұрын
Log cabins are the way
@PankajDoharey3 жыл бұрын
@@fbiagent9666 Yup.
@stevenwoolery23434 жыл бұрын
Being a bit unfair to her,. She’s responding to ‘lifestyle’ videos that make it sound like slapping one down and buying some sheetrock is as complex as it gets.
@09BiGDylan3 жыл бұрын
You're video is informative but you completely missed the point of her video. It makes me wonder if you're releasing this video just to protect the industry you're making a ton of money in. She brought up valid points to the question "are containers going to be possible to solve housing problems cheaply cheaply and efficiently?". She answered this question, you didn't.
@cedrickiplimo2991 Жыл бұрын
Haha! I love this one! A very methodical and factual response. It was joy to watch.
@jonathansnow82224 жыл бұрын
I think you completely missed the point shes making. Shes not calling shipping container homes a scam in the same way that a ponzi scheme scams people out of money, shes saying that people presenting shipping containers as a environmentally friendly, inexpensive, and easy to build alternative to building houses and housing buildings. She makes valid points about these homes not being simple builds, the modification, insulation, reinforcement, limited space, environmental factors, practicality, and extra costs people don't realize come with these builds that people dont talk about. but you dont address them properly. All you've done here is criticize her video based on your misunderstanding of her use of the word scam. If someone tells you the TV they're selling is states of the art with the best picture quality on the market, environmentally friendly because it uses less energy than other TVs. And you buy it based on what they told you and you get home turn it on, and the picture quality is that of a 1980s TV, not better than your other TV, and uses more energy than a fridge, you got scammed. If someone tells you they have a new type of tv, made out tires, so its eco friendly, tells you its a better alternative to a regular TV being easier to assemble, cost effective, and is custom made. You agree to it. Then find out the cost to build it is far more than you were led to believe, the process to raw material into tv parts is not as easy as they made it out to be, it weighs 10 times what a regular tv weighs so you need a special mount to hang it, it uses more energy than a fridge, and the tv gets extremely hot when its being used. You got scammed. If someone tells you they have a tv for sale, you give them the money for it and they don't give the tv. You got scammed. As you can see a scam can take different forms. Her argument that storage containers are a scam because it's not the cost effective, environmentally friendly, solution to the housing crisis as its being sold as is valid,
@DOMSART11174 жыл бұрын
Thank you but I also noticed that he agreed with most of her statements and rebuttal them with “do your research and find the right people” which in retrospect mean spend more money and resources
@AnimeHyperDimention4 жыл бұрын
There is a simple way to calculate the profit of the container, just multiply the square feet, by the cost of construction of the same area and you will find a big difference.
@lysianneokoma28023 жыл бұрын
I've an important question: what about people who live in Africa (where I'm from) where it's 350 days out of 365, very hot. Is the shipping container appropriate with that weather?
@FearDeniesFate3 жыл бұрын
Containers have terrible insulation properties so I would suggest something else. You may want to watch Belinda Car's video on the issue.
@belovedbody49123 жыл бұрын
I am in Africa, Cape Town. It’s mainly cool here throughout the year. Africa is not a COUNTRY! The USA gets hotter and more colder than South Africa in general.
@austina20204 жыл бұрын
I understand Belinda Carr's video title is inflammatory and the word "scam" is inaccurate. But her video does bring up a lot of important considerations for people who have a newly budding interest in building a container home. She is a well-educated architect and provides some good insight. She also made a video in response to her comments to address that and praise a few container conversions. I like that you're offering the other side of everything and I feel more educated on both perspectives in some respects. But please don't hate on Ms. Carr too hard for being critically-minded. I love your videos and the information you provide.
@sfchick76154 жыл бұрын
I found it telling that he used the word “uneducated” to describe Ms. Carr. Personal attacks are the hallmark of a weak position in a debate,
@Dontbesuspicious-324 жыл бұрын
@@sfchick7615 lol yep Brad got mad.
@Kingcaid833 жыл бұрын
I think she was right to call it a scam. The dishonesty in the marketing, and i think the worst thing is that they use brand new containers or fairly new...
@Soulhunter173 жыл бұрын
Belinda Carr used a word which was slightly taken out of context - mainly as the KZbin-Algorithm basically requires that. You're doing a 12 minute video hanging yourself up on that word and calling a solid research "uneducated" without properly arguing against the main point: Pollution of used containers, the fact you can't use a container directly as - and you mentioned it yourself you always require an engineer for that and availability. If you have to order them first by train or truck - how are you contacting Belindas point? There's this nice saying: Once you are only correcting the grammar you've lost the discussion already.
@bobjob36323 жыл бұрын
He s just surfing her wave. He sees ponding nonsense and never really answering anything
@MPPG6632 жыл бұрын
That video got over a million views. He saw a risk to his livelihood. That was it. That was all.
@andyprompt2 жыл бұрын
You're not biased or anything
@dandan83334 жыл бұрын
Lol, 6 years ago I removed a chicken coop at the end of my barn. An old timer driving by said stop dont remove it... it was too late the last nail was out; an month went by and we had some very high gusting winds during the day. I came home at dusk to an unpleasant surprise, while looking at a 115 year old barn at the ridge cap it looked like a boys fly left open... the wind unzipped the 3 floor barn down the roof. Now I had a open light inside the attic. You're correct alway pay the price and use a structural engineer. You bet, I don't like the price to get them to sign off but, cya for sure! Don't cut corners because, later it may cost you more. Keep documenting the build for any future need or use. Be ready if things change and the building dept. Needs that video documentation. Have a great day and be safe.
@Jayhadd214 жыл бұрын
Thank you for responding to this... and knowing Construction, design and engineering all have a part with container home building. (Coming from a designer/detailer/senior drafter with 20 years experience) Bless you brother and bless you for working in the Texas heat.
@soehokgie3 жыл бұрын
I got all your responses from Belinda's video! Funny! I watch that video, before i got here. For example, the cantilever things. She said it might cost some money, it wasn't as easy as it might seems. She showed the sample that are succeed cantilever. All we need to aware is the cost, and the engineering behind it. Just exactly what you said here! She said the container might contain toxic material. That's why, she mention it, better use 1 time containers. That's also exactly your respond! She just added her 2 cent, that the container might be better use as container for more than 1 time, before it is "retired". Than using it one time only, and use it as house! You can disagree with it, of course. End etc etc. Seriously, i got all your reasoning from her video, because actually she didn't state that container house is 100% fail. It is just being hyped without acknowledging the problem (that need solutions) behind it. About recycling 1 year old can compare to 10 old years old can, you got her wrong. She "said" it is better to use the can to contain food for several times, until it started to get rust on it, and use it as flower pot. Instead, use the fresh opened can, directly as a flower pot. These both called repurpose, both good. But i will go on Belinda's way. That's just me, you can disagree, of course. Anyway, Belinda never call names to anyone on that video. Not calling uneducated, clueless, etc, unlike you. That's make your respond less attractive. She might using word SCAM that you hate so much? I don't know, English is my second language, i don't get that SCAM word really is that strong #shrug But i read some respond here, apparently word SCAM is too much, actually.
@KatherineTheGr8t4 жыл бұрын
Points well taken, thanks for the rebuttal and your $10k home...my price range exactly. TaTa Oregon USA
@xfrecklefaceo1774 жыл бұрын
Everything both of you said was from an educated perspective. The only fallacy is in the word ‘scam’. Clearly English is not her first language so she used a hyperbolic word for clickbait. All 7 of her points have legitimate economical and sustainable concern factors. That doesn’t make it a ‘scam’. All 7 of your counterpoints offer solutions to these challenges. That doesn’t invalidate those challenges or make her points ‘uneducated’.
@NecroAsphyxia3 жыл бұрын
@Eduardo Tarusov no she uses the word becauae people like to sell the idea of shipping containers as being cheaper and more eco-friendly... Which they are not in any regard....
@Schmuly3 жыл бұрын
Yeah no she definitely used the word scam correctly it's not a specific term it can be used in this situation
@anujchandkapoor3 жыл бұрын
The reason she used the "Scam" word is because of how "Shipping Containers" are projected as not to call the entire concept a "Scam". Your video and her video are both very informative and correct. Construction techniques are different in different locations and no one technique is perfect for every place.
@horizonsky92694 жыл бұрын
My family lives in puerto rico they're going through a tough time with earthquakes and hurricanes the only houses that seem to be impervious to hurricanes and earthquake are the container homes in Puerto Rico. Hurricane Maria couldn't even budge them
@royrogers36244 жыл бұрын
Thats some odd hurricanes I mean hurricane hitting America rip steel buildings apart and yank things off the ground that weigh far more than containers
@horizonsky92694 жыл бұрын
@@royrogers3624 I hope you don't have to live through hurricanes .....hurricane season is no joke I feel safer in a container home than a concrete home and it's not just hurricanes earthquakes...I hope You're safe where you are
@royrogers36244 жыл бұрын
@@horizonsky9269 yes they are no joke thats why you shouldn't give bad information
@horizonsky92694 жыл бұрын
@@royrogers3624 it's not bad information it's information I live through if you don't know what other people lives through maybe you should asked question not suggest what you think is right
@royrogers36244 жыл бұрын
@@horizonsky9269 would you like to see pictures of shipping containers tossed by hurricanes?
@VovvenGromit4 жыл бұрын
Ok...so "scam" wasn't the right word, but all her 7 points were spot on. In ALMOST every case, a shipping container home is not worth it and does not spare the environment.
@BeautifulEarthJa4 жыл бұрын
wrong
@barryconnolly73244 жыл бұрын
Shipping containers make excellent sheds. Once you start to insulate and modify to meet code, you will soon find out it's more costly and constraining than just nailing together some 2x6's and adding metal siding. Correct it's not a scam, it's just dumb. ask anybody who has built a shipping container home who is not trying to make money off the process and they will tell you.
@BeautifulEarthJa4 жыл бұрын
@@barryconnolly7324 lol. In jamaica, the saving is about 30% as she said. So I wouldn't call it dumb.
@98370alberto4 жыл бұрын
If you can't use a hammer and/or have a disdain for containers...then why get into the conversation in the first place??
@Katzbynite4 жыл бұрын
Not all her points were spot on. People have to research building alternative to ensure they know the pros and cons. Her title is totally misleading and instead of correcting it she doubles down on the misleading title. When she could have changed and to accommodate the information contained in her video. As he said there are various building materials to build a home, one just have to know what is appropriate for their needs.
@tabithamwangi63094 жыл бұрын
That lady just needed to say that there are factors go consider when building a container home not that it's a scam
@johnhudelson78784 жыл бұрын
Then she should have changed the title of the videl.
@marmiranda37824 жыл бұрын
It's called click bait and it translates into more views, and more recognition for her channel, probably that's why she did it because I can't think of another possible reason
@bernardlartims91144 жыл бұрын
@@johnhudelson7878 clickbait for more views . she got u lol
@ceyciemateo94113 жыл бұрын
@@bernardlartims9114 It’s for YT Algorithm
@PiratePineapplez3 жыл бұрын
The whole video can be sumed up as "is not a scam, you can pay extra for it" kek
@ceyciemateo94113 жыл бұрын
Exactly…. If you pay extra for this than a regular home then it’s a SCAM they are lying to you telling u it’s cheaper
@PiratePineapplez3 жыл бұрын
@@ceyciemateo9411 yeah its a scam either way.. because i do not think those extras are even remotely cheap.
@harsimran14 жыл бұрын
The scam is, people actually are led to believe it is *way cheaper* to build with containers vs Stick Framing or Timber Framing. Once you get into a container home, built to code, with all the engineering. Well, you're in for a ride, vs building a stick or timber framing home. Watch this video to learn about Stick Framing vs Timber Framing. Very good video. These good folks also teach you how to build your own home. And with Engineered materials, like SIPs Panels. It makes so much sense vs these shipping containers, that to be honest, are like those bad relationships you just keep working on until they get to be ok. Shipping container, single, 8x20ft... a timber framed kit home gives you 14x20ft. So the shipping container is very demanding of you to get into a double-unit that significantly increases the cost to build it. Versus, getting into a timber framed home with SIPs panels and hey, you get wonderful ceiling heights too, not possible on the shipping container homes without added costs again. So this is where the scam lies. The belief that its so cheap because it looks easy enough to modify and do things to it. But it is a very incorrect assumption. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJi6qYWMprN8aa8
@odonovan4 жыл бұрын
ROTFLMAO!!!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 This is SO SO SO perfect! Thanks, KZbin! I was JUST watching Belinda Carr's video (the one referenced in this video), and thinking what a total load of steaming BS it was, then I saw THIS video on the right side of the page. Noting the similar but opposite titles, I thought, "what the Hell!" I put a link to this video in the comments section on HER video. BTW, many years ago, I worked for a chemical drum recycling company in central Florida. If you DO want to use older containers, remove the flooring so it's ALL bare metal inside, then sandblast it thoroughly and repaint it. We did that with chemical drums (barrels) and they were able to be certified for carrying anything, including food products, no matter what types of chemicals they previously held.
@TedGodwin3 жыл бұрын
LOL, way to ignore the whole point. The minute you advocate buying a new container you validate her entire thesis. She is pointing out that the myth of being eco-friendly by recycling containers is a scam. Building with new containers is basically just a form of pre-fab home and the points she makes about cut-outs and cantilevers, etc are totally valid. You have to ask if it is the most efficient method to build a steel box, ship it somewhere, then cut out large sections and add reinforcements? It might be, but it also may be more efficient to simply build a frame on site using other materials.
@scottmichaels17643 жыл бұрын
Because it may be cheaper in some instance to build with a different method, does not a scam make. That is the point of this video.
@TedGodwin3 жыл бұрын
@@scottmichaels1764 LOL so you are arguing with the use of the word "scam" in the title even though her video makes clear that scam is an exaggeration and she admits the title is "click bait" and not to taken literally? Thanks for playing.
@TheLocalsVibe.PalmBeach Жыл бұрын
Yay Blake! So excited and lucky to be connected with you! 🎉 🏠
@DarkepyonX3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 you just reinforced her points 🤣🤣🤣
@Dynamodjt893 жыл бұрын
I noticed you didn't cover the insulation issue. That is something I'm curious about how to work around for my build.
@joesmith-tr2nj3 жыл бұрын
Since most of us don't build houses and/or are not educated as to how house construction works and shipping container homes are portrayed as being something they really are not, it would be considered by many as a SCAM. Since your interest is in promoting your "one stop shop" shipping container home channel. it's apparent where your motivations lie.
@MrRayj354 жыл бұрын
Ah, the difference between someone who actually knows about a certain subject that they routinely work with...vs someone who THINKS she knows about something for the simple reason that she has no experience with it! Great job!!
@enysuntra13474 жыл бұрын
Mrs Carr knows what she's talking about, that's why she specifically points out the use of Flats in disaster shelters. Your argument has the fallacy that, of course, an engineer/architect does NOT have "experience" with something consideration almost always shows is inferiour to cheaper, eco-friendlier and regionally sustainable solutions. I, for one, have no "experience" using bird droppings instead of concrete; that's because it should be consensus here that bird droppings make a bad ersatz-concrete. Shipping Containers and Flats aren't rocket science. You can see their attributes - heat conductivity, structural values - in every table book. Note how this video carefully evades the IMO "killer criticisms" of Mrs Carr - namely the problems of perspiration and heat insulation that forces you to use chemical, non-degradable insulation materials (that need specialised waste disposal), and her proposal to use traditional and regional building techniques, for they have proven to withstand the climate (an iglu in the rain forest won't ever become "traditional and regional" because it's inadequate - "survivor's bias").
@royrogers36244 жыл бұрын
"Thinks she knows" so she was wrong when she reccomended this channel as a good and honest one that understands what theyre doing? Good got it i won't watch them anymore ty for telling me containing luxury is actually trash and carr's recomendation was based on ignorance
@tshepomofoti45584 жыл бұрын
Her points where valid . We are made to believe that we can build shipping container homes very easly and it's for everyone , unfortunately that's not true . I've seen the work you and other do . It takes a lot of skill.
@larryjeffryes61684 жыл бұрын
There must be max loads on either side of the two fork slots in the middle. These can be looked up - they are standardized. So far we don't even need an engineer to know we can cantilever and we know what we need to look up to see how far we can take it. It depends whether your looking for problems or solutions.
@codyschoonover19884 жыл бұрын
Hat happens when you go to sell? Far more people are going to opt for a traditional wooden framed house over a makeshift shipping container structure whatever it’s being used for. Land nowadays is expensive why opt for something that lowers property values.
@hary2912 жыл бұрын
Correct! 💯 agree
@gaaarete4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information, we break ground in March with a 12 container build and I had no doubts about using shipping containers to build, and I hate the negative information without the positive spin so thank you for the positive spin on this.
@thinkoutsidethecontainer4 жыл бұрын
Good luck on your build! I've been surprised by the small (yet vocal) minority of deranged container home haters. They provide almost zero rational critiques and are clearly driven by some kind of bizarre bitterness. Strange people
@kerrymadgett98524 жыл бұрын
Great debate. Great rebuttal. This kind of open forum is constructive. When a person with real knowledge in construction Shows the public what is possible- it’s a gift. This is an educational channel. Watch and learn.
@ContainingLuxury4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated for the kind words!
@MPPG6632 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury Yup, everyone appreciates kind words. Remember that next time you do a Response Video. Treat them the way you, evidently, like to be treated.
@CONTAINERMAN684 жыл бұрын
Although my name is CONTAINERMAN, you may think I haul containers for a living, I do not! However, I have hauled a few. One I picked up in Oakland, California from a container company(Inland) that supplies other companies with used containers for mobile offices or storage. I hauled it from Oakland to Commerce City, Colorado to just such a place called Mobile Mini. They take older, dented containers and repair them, paint them, cut windows and door openings in them, reinforcing those openings with structural steel. Then they either rent out sell them to other companies or individuals. One of the trucking companies in my home town buys from that exact same company, Mobile Mini, and sells them as storage units and mobile office spaces. The other ones I've hauled from Houston,Texas to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma to a oil drilling company!
@siegridthomas96744 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU I am working on my container
@BStrambo4 жыл бұрын
Her video wasn't half bad as some considerations about building with containers. What was a "Scam" was her deliberate choice to use that clickbait title! It worked out for her view count though! I far prefer your content and I'm super glad you stuck with the channel, and your closing in on 100k subscribers!!!!
@ContainingLuxury4 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah brother! Thank you for your service by the way!
@gnomechump-stiny71282 жыл бұрын
So you do agree with her definition. Why would you prove her point. Moron
@AdrianPaneto3 жыл бұрын
So what you are saying is that building a shipping container home is not cheaper in most cases than a regular wood/concrete/brick one. It seems that people want the look of container homes without any of the financial savings. As you said, if you have enough money you can build anything.
@RyanBlockb54 жыл бұрын
Nice I found your channel because of her video.😁 In her video she liked your construction technique. 👨🔧
@ContainingLuxury4 жыл бұрын
Oops... then I blasted her, my bad!
@RyanBlockb54 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury no opps no bad I really like your videos. 😀She referenced you in a different video.👷🏾♂️
@nasser-ist4 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury If I remember correctly she mentioned your channel and said that there are novices and then there are people who know what they are doing, you being the latter one. You spoke your mind which is good. Architects like her shouldn't claim authority in areas out of their expertise.
@ZeoCyberG4 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury She was basically playing devils advocate... 1 video to show the bad, to extremes, and a 2nd to show the positives... So both very one sided and you have to see multiple videos to get a proper narrative... But you were right on how over the top and out of context many of the points were... Though, she was right on the housing problem is not going to be solved with any one solution because it is based on many different problems... Like housing hasn't kept up with population growth for decades, they've been talking about it since the 70's... There's also social issues like NIMBY'ism, people will sue you for having a different type of home, living differently, etc... Financial inequality, destruction and demonizing of the middle class... Rising cost of living, devaluation of currency, financial illiteracy, etc... Rising demand for higher home efficiency, more strict building codes, minimum size restrictions, more regulations and bureaucracy, etc... Issues with lack of healthy homes, healthy air, too many chemicals being used in the home we don't know the learn term effects will be, companies too quick to replace a known problem chemical with one that just has a different name but is still a similar type of chemical, like cancer causing fire retardants, etc. Mind, many people are in the mind set of finding a easy solution that will work for everyone in all situations with even the most limited of incomes to work with and somehow avoids all the issues with the housing market. It's one of the reasons why people tended to have unrealistic expectations of tiny homes solving everything and there are many people who don't have realistic expectations of container homes for many of the same reasons. Like the belief the costs will be close to just the purchase cost of the container and little else and that builders are somehow cheating them instead of charging fair prices for these homes, many lack the understanding of how much running a business costs and tend to think in only terms of material costs... Along with misleading comparisons between different types of homes, different construction methods, ignoring differences in built quality and material choices, comparing cost per sq ft without any context of differences, etc... People can get the wrong idea of how it all works for many reasons... I understand, you only responded to it from the viewpoint of a builder but there's a lot more to it than that... But again, the rest you were spot on...
@machineslave34 жыл бұрын
A lot of the comments on her channel were saying she used the wrong word to use. It was more "things to think about" but the word SCAM gets views. She said she's an architect I think.
@SweBeach20234 жыл бұрын
I could see a use for container homes in a disaster area, them being rugged and fireproof. But even this hesitantly. But for any other normal use the cons far outweighs the pros. A house built with a typical timber frame would be more environmentally friendly and more cost effective. I expect in the region of a third to half the price of a container home. What Mrs Carr brings up is sensible and scientifically sound arguments against container buildings, especially so if used for living.
@lorkydj23824 жыл бұрын
I like how honest and right you are my dude, but we can’t deny that there’s so many crooked people out there trying to take advantage of others! Thank you for all that beautiful knowledge that shares with us! I’ve watched a lot of shipping containers homes videos and I tell the true, I got exited about to get one, then I watched one of yours videos where you explained everything with details about building a shipping containers home and I opened my eyes, and I’ll probably do it, but I now put feet on the earth! Love your content!
@ContainingLuxury4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help! That’s the point is for people to see this a lot of work and not an easy build for just anyone to take on
@MichaelLivingston-me4 жыл бұрын
As much as someone may claim that using the word scam in a title causes click bait, so too does the reference here. You're points are valid, just as hers were. Building codes can be seen by people as over the top. In some places they are, however the problems using a corrugated long narrow box, subject to temperature extremes, along with condensation issues are a concern. Cutting into them compromises the structural integrity, so that has to be addressed. That's increased cost. Insulation on the inside creates a moisture development surface, which can lead to mold. Shipping containers are used for a variety of materials, some of which are toxic to be breathing and living within. She pointed those things out as well. Your argument that construction materials vary by regional demands and availability was addressed by the very person you criticized. Pointing to just one of her statements without bringing into context the other things she said, serves what purpose? There is much to take into account when it comes to design and construction, and even though you were critical of her using scam in the title, it seems many of the things you referred to, were also explained in her video.
@sbuciec46094 жыл бұрын
I first thought this is about that other video, then I thought it's probably a coincidence but then I saw the intro of the video and it all clicked 😂. But thank you so much for addressing this
@dmmflys2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Sick ppl calling themselves experts and having 0 idea.
@likeargamanflaming9402 жыл бұрын
Uneducated? Hardly. Her points were valid. You have your rebuttal, yet honestly, she's very educated.
@pintorespanol61234 жыл бұрын
it's because they think "construct using container" it's going to be cheaper than buying a regular house... from that point of view, maybe it's true?????
@fairfieldgoodearthworks-da61814 жыл бұрын
Got into her last year about my container homes. You were a lot more eloquent than I was dealing with her crap.
@ContainingLuxury4 жыл бұрын
I had to go to anger management classes before filming this video.. that’s why it took so long to respond :)
@fairfieldgoodearthworks-da61814 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury Do you mind if I share this video on my FB and Website Blog?
@n1rvana_3 жыл бұрын
Basically, you're agreeing with her points and then saying but that doesn't make it a scam. You're not disproving anything or making her out to be 'uneducated' because you've confirmed that was she said is true!!
@magnus33john3 жыл бұрын
Wow apparently you watched a different video.
@bryceparisien364 жыл бұрын
Do you not understand that her video was proving that for every day people can't afford all the extras and are turning to shipping containers to save money. If I had millions I could build a bad ass container but that's not why people want to do shipping containers
@keithknott7363 жыл бұрын
I may be mistaken, and apologize if I am. But unless my eyes are playing tricks on me: A "SHIPPING CONTAINER" is basically a "MOBILE HOME"! With the exception of: (1) NARROWER than a "M/B, (2) NO INNER WALLS, (YET), (3) NO WHEELS UNDERNEATH, (4) NO "A/C", "ELECTRICAL", "PLUMBING", "COUNTERS", "INSULATION" etc (YET), I've lived in "MOBILE HOME'S" many times in my life, and likewise Unloaded many "SHIPPING CONTAINERS" when I was younger. But the lady that this MAN is talking about, Must be a "LUXURY LOVER" or maybe is a "GHETTO OWNER". And what she said about the weather: 🤔 I don't know about her, But as for me (and most people I know who has lived in them), If I see a "EF- 3-4-5" TORNADO" coming towards me and my "TRAILER/CONTAINER" "I'M NOT GONNA BE STUPID ENOUGH TO STAY IN IT" DUUU.
@Mr.Cash664 жыл бұрын
Thanks for addressing this. Is there any restraints building in Florida
@TexasUnfiltered2 жыл бұрын
Good video! I still love the look,abilities and strength of Shipping containers, people just need to take all this into consideration.
@kontoname2 жыл бұрын
Shipping containers do not provide the best structural integrity at all. Their structural integrity largely depends on the packing and the stacking - without it they're rather fragile. Basically it boils down to looks which you can also achieve using alternative construction methods. Hence why there are countless companies with mass production home solutions but not with shipping containers. And yes, you can build a home out of old beer cans too. It's a cool project but it doesn't make it any better overall.
@CharleneOrtizTraining4 жыл бұрын
I live in Vegas and it's easy to get a shipping container. When she said it's expensive to transport, she sounded pretty ignorant about shipping containers.
@kbob84243 жыл бұрын
you're referring to YOUR situation. She was referring in general. Being in shipping, no one wants to transport these as a first choice. Currently, drivers want about $2/mile, that means broker will charge more. Might make sense going to Vegas but shipping out further? No one wants to pay and you need multiple containers for a home right? Drivers would rather not take up their whole trailer as 1 load where they could load multiple loads all paying. Plus, driving with a container gets terrible gas millage. Your talking around 6-7 miles per gallon.
@andrewburton1968 Жыл бұрын
Great videos! very informative and although some people have points that are valid i think you addressed them. As a someone who has the tools, mechanical and technical ability, this is something i am seriously looking into because it is significantly cheaper to build when you are doing the work yourself. If you don't have the skills, or apparently understand what this man is saying just hire someone to build you something. Keep up the great videos!!!
@DejaunWright2 жыл бұрын
1:22 He obviously didn’t watch her video
@DarkepyonX3 жыл бұрын
Construction grunts always think thry know as much as Architects or engineers any day any time . Genius here somehow misses she is in Dallas and knows whats up in Texas. Austin containers are from Texas ports and Colorado from west coast ports , this is also where they are built usually. Shipping containers are designed for international transport thats the region they are designed for . 10 grand is a scam , they built Dual unit container homes for Homeless here , bathroom , electricity, water , insulation , (don't need AC here) 1800$ per unit was cost to Christian charities which is based in Texas, they built up 20 of them first round and went with different plan as it was cheaper to just build 1 apartment building to house 40-60 people. This vid is just a big "Nuh uh" tantrum by someone only caring as it affects his income pffft
@ruiz_nailedit4 жыл бұрын
I love this!! SHIPPING CONTAINERS HOMES..NEW FUTURE! Bottum line designers and realtors would loose money selling 450k homes..instead buy lots of land and several containers..save!! That IRS comments was a nice one lol!!
@barbhello8084 жыл бұрын
Omg... I was so waiting for this video, I love that you were the one that did it. PLEASE people stop spreading lies, cities are literally building small shipping container communities in the bay area to help the homeless. Shipping containers are being used because the structures are stronger than wood framing, cost effectiveness (much cheaper than traditional builds), and the size of 40 foot high cubes have all the room you need to live comfortably... thank you so much for this 💗
@ContainingLuxury4 жыл бұрын
Barb Hello People definitely need to understand how shipping containers can be used to solve economic issues in the world and not be spread with lies about why shipping containers cannot be used to recycle Storage into potential low income housing developments utilized in the proper situations
@barbhello8084 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury so true, containers have been used around the world for so long, we're finally catching on in the states and it scares people. Instead of trying to spread the fear its time to get educated people lol...
@sexyaznboy704 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with your statement/response. Those "scams" or issues that she brought up are just items we have to consider more attention to details, in order to make it functional. Yes it will give more work then just slapping template/typical details of walls, flooring, and etc. but if the design intent is to be using the shipping container then who cares. Its the client/homeowners choice to justify if the cost was worth making the home out of a shipping container and reducing their carbon footprint by recycling and reusing an existing structure that can provide certain benefits to the homes lifespan. Personally I think her video needed to be way better phrased/tagged then saying "Scam". She knew posting that video would get a huge reaction which will result in more views and creating her video to get onto the front page of video recc for some people. She obviously doesnt sound like she has any language barrier issues so it was truly just a "click bait" video.
@bunnypeople4 жыл бұрын
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@sexyaznboy704 жыл бұрын
@@bunnypeople - I saw the response video but even before the response video what did she expect? If she was going to create content that would have a large reaction regardless of it being positive or negative then why did she have to clarify her response? She even said in the beginning that she wanted to see what the reaction and feedback would be from her video and she got it but cause she wasn't able to "manage" the responses she had to make a response video even though she knew she was making a click bait content. Thats the thing that bothered me is that she knew she was making click bait video content, just for a reaction or even possibly for the ad and view revenue money. And I'm sure most people are annoyed just like me who are in the profession or knowledge that she had to create content just for the attention or money/views.
@sexyaznboy704 жыл бұрын
After seeing the video, I dont think I could subscribe to the channel or even follow any of her content based on such click bait material/goals. Sure anyone can make content thats click-baitable but if she was to create content of knowledge and design with more of a indepth research outside just one profession (including architects, structural engineers, general contractors and etc) then sure the video might have more of a viable statement of it being a scam. I can go on for days about topics like this but she knew what she was getting into and cause it got out of hand she felt the need to apologize which a good chunk of us within the profession are probably not gonna accept cause she should of known that building a home or building isn't just the architects focus but rather a eco-system of different practices and engineers that make it possible.
@NecroAsphyxia3 жыл бұрын
@@sexyaznboy70 but people who are selling the idea of these homes as cheap and eco-friendly ARE scamming people. It's bullshit and everyone knows it. All those point you said are just "things to take extra planning in" you know what that means? MORE MONEY. They are NOT cheap... At all...
@sexyaznboy703 жыл бұрын
@@NecroAsphyxia - It's technically cheaper then building a concrete or timber home. And yea we can build you a cheap home, no problem but there are multiple parameters in why we can't just slap wood together and call it a home. 1 for your safety, 2 for our liability and 3 cause the city has rules on how we can build and how people get in and out of the building safely.. And in general a home is expensive to build or have so why come with the expectation of having a home with 10 grand? Unless you aim for a shack then sure thats 10 g for you.
@zindhuzanjo88134 жыл бұрын
5:34 but she said that people buy new containers if they don't want that but then what's the point??
@bdspiller12 жыл бұрын
Real guy talking real words!
@GeneJordan4 жыл бұрын
Correct on all points. Especially the availability of containers in non-coastal areas. I live near Saint Louis, Missouri. It hardly gets less "coastal" than here. Yet countless single-trip containers are stacking up here. They come up & down the Mississippi River, the roads, and the railroads from Chicago and other Port cities. That video exposed their lack of knowledge when they stated that High Cube containers had to be "custom ordered". They didn't even seem to know that they were called "high cube".
@schwarzerritter57243 жыл бұрын
Shipping container homes are presented as costing basically nothing, because they are made of old containers that would get scrapped anyway. If something costs significantly more, or has a lower quality, than anticipated, it is a scam. You don't even disagree with Belinda Carr's reasons why container homes cost significantly more or have lower quality than advertised, so what is this about?
@brankostojanovic69964 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but this is kinda offensive, there are some good points Belinda made and beside the title, that was a really good and informative video. Here, well you are kinda doing the same thing, taking only a part of her sentiments and not talking the whole thing into consideration.
@bunnypeople4 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely correct
@choppermarc23422 жыл бұрын
Very happy to see this video.
@markez4730 Жыл бұрын
I think we all forgot that trailers homes exist and we can see where I’m going with this.
@howey19754 жыл бұрын
You mentioned lightweight concrete floors. I'd love to know more. Have you used one in your builds?
@ContainingLuxury4 жыл бұрын
We are actually doing it now! I am building a 2 40ft house with a 40ft guest house that will have a roof top concrete deck and polished concrete floors on the inside
@BStrambo4 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury Looking forward to those videos!
@exemida3 жыл бұрын
@@ContainingLuxury What is the concrete brand called?
@johnlynch28623 жыл бұрын
Where is the most cost effective place to buy a container?
@jaynebennett83984 жыл бұрын
What about the condensation and mold potential or how they get too hot (?) We are considering shipping containers for a Florida home and I’m highly allergic to mold but I’m still hopeful there is a way that we can use shipping containers
@CatEyedGoddess3 жыл бұрын
So in other words, like everything in life, there are pros and cons. Ppl need to figure out what works for them and make a informed decision.
@Pythonette3 жыл бұрын
Buying a new container would defeat the purpose of recycling. If you're worried about toxins, decontaminate the thing.
@peterchonson92623 жыл бұрын
I guess that's the question, obviously you can modify a bunch of containers, but at that point, what does that container offer that a 4x4 framing doesnt?
@JorgePetraglia20093 жыл бұрын
Peter Chonson : a shipping container home, professionally built and made out of steel, won't fly away in a tornado
@scottty77653 жыл бұрын
How do you build a floor from inside one container to the inside of another one with space between them. Do you put the container on a slab and then a crawl space under the other parts. Or do you poor concrete in the containers and the other space for one seamless floor?
@MrChassmith3 жыл бұрын
The idea that a complex shipping container home can be built significantly cheaper than with other materials IS a scam.
@exemida3 жыл бұрын
Id watch this guys other videos. He built one for 10k and then sold it at price even when he could have sold it for more. He also built one for 30k and shows the prices in a later build in a separate video. That's pretty dang cheap. This guy knows what he is talking about because he literally builds them for educational step by step purposes and also sells them.