7-String, 8-String, & 9-String Guitars 101 - Extended Range Guitar Lesson

[@MusoraOfficial]

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[@jchristensen9971]

How or what is it you use to get that tone?

[@BaenaCarcosa]

Thanks so much for having me, guys!

[@flywayen2135]

what strings do you use on all your guitars

[@BzechuanInteractive]

Thanks for the info. I subbed to your channel directly. I hope to hear more of your Agile guitars, I've been contemplating their 7 stringsmed guitars.

[@flywayen2135]

you dont have that many guitars i know someone who bought over 40 cause he thinks he needs new ones

[@jazzalmenasmusic]

Andy, what about the figurine atop the monitor, tho?

[@joseplays5221]

What’s a good multi-scale length for a nine string?

[@armaang96]

Exactly the video I needed today❤

[@zAvAvAz]

thanks

[@arisianfitness2868]

Thank you for this video

[@katyungodly]

I've got a 30" 7-string I've been tuning to standard, definitely gonna try a lower tuning next time I restring it!

[@KordTaylor]

Really nice. Thank you. I just wish you had more playing demos in a few styles. Thank you 👏🏻

[@katyungodly]

I did drop E on a 25.5" but I needed like 80 or thicker on that low string

[@njg4606]

Man, I follow your channel and this video is filling in the gaps of all the research I’ve been doing myself. Awesome, thank you. Ps also your 9 string vs the 5 string bass video was suuuuuper (exactly what I was looking for) helpful.

[@Zetsuke4]

Cool

[@gwugluud]

Just my 7-string sounds too muddy to me, lol. Oddly, this $20 dirt box I bought off Temu just to be stupid, “The Riffer”, is the only way I’ve found that when I tried my 7 with it, the tone was clear and sharp. A very “crisp” distortion box. And surprisingly good.

[@MiraComoTeExplico]

you can change the pickups for whatever pickup on a Strandberg. the pickup slot is just angled

[@johngacy6367]

Why does the active pickups make a difference in multi scale vs passive?

[@Gary-zq3pz]

What about playing jazz improv on 8 string? There's a lot of tonal range to play with.

[@jeffreyodell9994]

Brother Baena is an extended range evangelist 💪

[@NeoRichardBlake]

10:33 Harley Benton has Fan Fret 7 string and 8 string guitars for less than $200 USD. FYI. :D The parallel fret versions cost even less. I'm super tempted by those prices. Even if they're not great, as long as they're fine instruments, it'll give you a good idea if you want to play ERG for a very low upfront investment.

[@Fistful0fSteel]

I have a 27“ multiscale and couldn’t dream of tuning it to E even with .80s on there…..

[@7thstring820]

What do you guys think about the Ltd 1008et?

[@wallthemart]

Another tip to make a more financially responsible decision 1. Do you have multiple 6 strings? you're balls deep in, go for thicker strings and let the chonkiest one be the djent stick (if you cant make it work then thats when u know you actually 'deserve' your extended range.) 2. You have 1 solid 6 string guitar and love it, but the music you like is getting lower and lower. Go for it! You can keep the 6 string in uncommon tunings and play your 8 string and practice better muting technique, picking, etc by practicing on easy 6 string songs but using the 8. It is very practical for a 2nd guitar.

[@dbo4506]

I’ve literally thought multi scale guitars were the most pointless thing ever.... turns out it’s exactly what I’ve been looking for 😂

[@IceCubeNETWORK873]

D Bo they look cool to!

[@apoplexiamusic]

i was feeling the same when i decided to start playing again. I tried an Ibanez 7-string fanned fret and didn't really like the feel, but i was basically starting from a beginner level having not played for around 9 years. I got a 26.5" scale length 7-string and i am still struggling with the lover frets as i have smaller hands. This week i got a fanned fret 8-string Harley Benton from Thomann and i really like the feel in the lower frets as they aren't as large, and the same goes for playing on the higher strings and higher frets since the frets are smaller and stretched are much easier :D

[@Cyclobomber]

@@apoplexiamusic Mostly the same here, I decided to try 7-string after not playing guitar for about 10 years (and only 6stg) and I got a Harley Benton 7-stg fanfret just to see (since I live in Europe, CS would have been a breeze, also because when I read it gave better overall string tension I tought "makes sense") and while I'm still getting used to it to some degree, it's actually super comfortable and feels great. Now I'm kinda thinking of multiscaling all my axes, I love it.

[@apoplexiamusic]

@@CyclesAreSingularities it is the Fanfret 8 QBB, but a 2017 deko model

[@katyungodly]

I just got my wife her first multiscale guitar for early Christmas and she loves it, says she immediately got used to it, wasn't an adjustment.

[@ZachComa]

I have a Hagstrom Fantomen (25.5") that plays perfect in drop A or B standard. It just needed 14-68 strings and the nut slots widened to accommodate the thicker strings.

[@lokilaufeyson3983]

this was sooooo helpful thank you good sir!!

[@Hiro.the.God.]

I just bought a 7 string, and it has ended my hunt for red October. I just couldn’t find a 6 string I liked. I’m hooked on 7 now.

[@TheKris7string]

Just want to say that pickups are built to accommodate standard tuning, or near standard. Dropping a six string to drop F will work but your pickups will struggle with the signal. ERG pickups are designed for the lower notes and will make a noticeably better signal. Just saying it’s worth mentioning.

[@origin199]

Therapist: “Fanned fret Les Paul isn’t real, it can’t hurt you” Fanned fret Les Paul: 3:34

[@nurikkulanbaev3628]

The ugliest thing i have ever seen

[@jakelikesdjent1725]

@@nurikkulanbaev3628 IMO it’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever laid my eyes on in my entire existence

[@waltervt]

Not a Les Paul though, just a single-cutaway guitar.

[@mesarosmm]

Disgusting thing. I love it!!

[@TheBanana93]

@@waltervt Les paul style

[@jordanpurcell5161]

27” and 7 strings are what I keep buying. That 27” has a sweet spot in drop A. 🔥🔥

[@EpicStuffMan1000]

*laughs in Drop D and Whammy DT*

[@mihailmilev9909]

@@EpicStuffMan1000 what is that perhaps?

[@shouldabeengone]

@@mihailmilev9909 a pedal that allows you to downtune electronically instead of actually tuning your guitar lower

[@TheBanana93]

I wish I had known about it when I got my 7 string. Its 25.5 and drop G is just too floppy and buzzy drop A is bearable

[@B31L]

@@TheBanana93 just go up in string thing

[@theriffdjenerator2213]

Having 6,8,and 9 flavours, whilst you can have a 6 string extended range. I don't feel the pickups reflect the intent. Am I wrong? Is this subjective. Having specifically wound pickups for lower tunings and resonances sounds better than regular 6 string pickups with longer scale. They don't seem to handle it anywhere near as well.

[@MaryjaneDaniel]

Oh shiz guys, it's Andrew Banana Montana!

[@KeyanHoushmandLive]

Can really notice everything getting more professional after you decided to go full time, keep it up dude

[@glennmattison3180]

What brand is that 8 string Jazzmaster? That thing is awesome!

[@brCharlieNagy]

sounds reeeally good. What amp or amp model you use, please ?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Extended range Guitars have a scale length that's typically the same as that of a Baritone Guitar.

[@stndrd3608]

Many 7 strings have 25.5“ sadly :/ and there are 8 strings with just 26.5“ and I really don’t get what the manufacturers of those are thinking 😂

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@stndrd3608 I think a 25.5 in Scale Length extended range Guitar could be good for someone with tiny hands.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@stndrd3608 It can vary depending on the preference. 25.5 in scale extended range Guitars have really special gauged strings & the shorter scale might make them great for people who have tiny hands due to a rare condition.

[@funkingitup1805]

It's a really good video. The only thing it needed was a segment where you hit the lowest pitch string on a 6, 7, 8, 9 string guitar in standard tuning to show the difference in pitch.

Is that possible to reach drop C1 with a 7 string 27 " ?

[@freezingjazzy]

With thick ass strings, Maybe.

[@johnnyboy0g460]

Okay so, I'm currentling running an Ibanez RGA8 and I have some troubles with my low E. It doesn't sound pleasant at all when fretting higher up. It sounds like there are some harmonics that obfuscate the sound. I wish I could send somehere a video of it somehow because I really need help with this - I've tried lowering pickups. I've tried changing strings (currently at .74 and .80 for B and E. But it still sounds muddy and weird when fretting. Completely the opposite of the intro clip here.

[@patricksacre1901]

So does the intonation change when you go from .60 string to let's say a .80 or something like that? I use a .60 for drop C and I'm having trouble with intonation below A. If I get like a .80 is it easier to intonate below A?

[@palanthis]

That Solar is GORGEOUS! Also, I don't think these are weird numbers and terms. If you are considering spending hundreds of possibly thousands of dollars on a specialized guitar, you should know this stuff first. I used to cycle competitively. If you just want to ride a bicycle, get some exercise and some fresh air, sure, you can go buy an bicycle and probably be fairly happy. If you want to start racing, you need to know frame size, rake angles, materials, geaing, etc. It matters when you are going to be dropping thousands on a race bike.

[@jacob2343432]

The longer the scale the more tension on the string, meaning when you drop low with a longer scale, the string won’t be as wobbly than a shorter scale

[@kilingkiling-tinybell]

8 string is the future

[@pitchwayne]

Do you have suggestions on strings to put on my existing 6 string?

[@MusoraOfficial]

I personally like D'Addario and Rotosound strings.

[@zoharbucky8598]

if I want to tune down to drop A, so I get thicker strings, right? can I still tune the up to standard tuning?

[@andymatthews752]

Note that if you go too heavy on the string gauge you may need to make changes to the nut.

[@alecrisser12]

My initial reason for wanting an 8 string was just so that I could go lower without having to tune differently. So, more strings, but that doesn't just mean going lower without down tuning, it means I can achieve two octaves in a single fretting position.

[@DocStrange30]

Man, lots of great info in this vid! Thx duder!!!

[@ProdigalReturn]

I use to play only 7 strings... I moved up to 8 strings. When I played the 7 I tuned a full step down... What should I tune my 8 string to!!

[@kennethbaggett5478]

I’ve got a pair of 13. on a strat because Stevie

[@VictorHurtubia]

Can I tune a 26.5" in Standard E to play some classic ones?

[@THEshaggyrogers]

Well yes if you ignore that low B or A whatever you’ve tuned that 7th string to your basically in E standard

[@joefelkins7930]

Who else came for Andrew?

[@cbarriay]

there is such misconception about extended range around, that this video is amazing, thanks so much.

[@louisanthony266]

I play a fanned fret 8 string. In particular it’s an Ibanez rgms8. I love it, possibly the most fun I’ve had on guitar. Super comfortable and helps me be more creative.

[@deathcoresnb8860]

What's the song at the intro???

[@SebastianCoDe]

I have an question: going from a 6 string guitar to an 7 one was a challenge due to the finger space and fret .... from 7 to 8 is the same?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

EMG makes special pickups for them too.

[@claytonbrown9637]

What was that tune at the beginning? Chuggy goodness!🤘🏻💀🤘🏻

[@MachineGunELl]

I now own a 6 string tuned like a 7 string, a 7 string tuned like an 8 string and an 8 string tuned like a 9 string. WHEN DOES IT END

[@VegaIllusion]

As an 8-string player, I can recommend a 7-string guitar to any guitarist, unless they have a specific reason, such as rhythm playing, to not get one. Every thing above 7-strings is basically 2 instruments in one.

[@johnsguitarmusicanddemos]

I like this video a lot but one of the things that I disagree about is putting thicker strings on a six string guitar. I was going to do that to my Gibson SG but you could only put strings on it that are so thick before you have to modify the nut or the bridge.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

GuitarLessons They should make Fanned Fret Multi-Neck Guitar

[@WarframeCrunch]

Sadly you didn't showed here difference beetwen thickest strings in 8 and 9 string.

[@dougarnold7955]

Great info. Thanks.

[@shrake5385]

1. gather money 2. buy a 10 string guitar 3. only play one string 4. profit

[@joesmith942]

I don't play, know nothing, did not realize this was a thing. So thanks. It was interesting.

[@Noppafemma]

before i bought an 8 string i played in drop e and f on a 25 inch scale lenght 6 string with normal strings and drop g on a lespaul those were some sloppy strings

[@ryancronk6762]

Been playing a 7 since forever ago use to think an 8 was ridiculous. Been playing a legator 7 for about 4 years now and hands down my favorite guitar I've ever owned actually just ordered another legator but in an 8 and super stoked to give it a try 🤙 also love the low tuning without sacrificing high strings

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Fanned frets actually balance out the tension.

[@randyeppyt]

I need a murdered out 7-string in my life.

[@jackillin]

HB from Thomann do a fan-fret 8-string ridicously cheap - maybe good for a project guitar to mod the pups etc..

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

GuitarLessons 10 String Guitars (G#, C#, F#, B, E, A, D, G, B, E) as well as 11 String Single Course (adds on High A) Guitars, & even Doubled Course versions like a 14 String (like a 7 String but with) etc, which are cool. Interestingly there are extended range Basses that go an Octave below those Extended range Guitars so low that it's lower than the frequency we can hear. Extended range Guitars are great because it makes transposing songs to every key alot easier to accommodate the ranges of other instruments, vocalists, or even both especially on church gigs.

[@andrewmcbride88]

Super helpful. It took me a week or so to put this info together from multiple sources before finding this video that really sums it up and points you in the right direction. Decided for a longer scale length 6-string guitar over an 8-string because I don't play much lead

[@nerdyism2523]

Saving up for an 8 string so I can learn BFG Division and finally be worthy of entering the world of TRUE CHADS.

[@Average-JOE555]

Literally this. Mick Gordon started this I wanna play the doom soundtrack so fucking bad and possibly add in my own take to it.

[@brandonwoodson9348]

What brand of guitar is that 8-string?

[@FynnFTW]

But what if you wanna hit the low notes but you still want to be able to the guitar like a 6 string in standard? Is that the right idea for getting a 8 String? Kinda looking into the Chapman Rob Scallon Sig 8 String but idk if that thing is all too good tuned to E Drop 24,5" that is

[@corbinsmith6777]

You don’t need to order custom pickups for da feet guitars, just take the baseplate off of the original pickups and put them on the new ones. Works with any pickup as far as I’m aware.

[@onaucc9899]

What's your oppinion on buying an 8 string, just to "have" the extra string? I'm pretty sure that a 7 string would fit my needs right now. But i'm not 100% sure that i'll never need an 8th string.... you now? Plus i'm trying to combine electronic music with metal. The thing is: in the range where (normal) guitars sound good, electronic elements usually sound whack af. So i'll definitely need a 7 or 8 string.... Question is: Aside from the wider neck: is there a downside to having that extra string?

[@DrowningTimeOfficially]

have you ever tryed to tune the 9 string ever like a 8 string in drop tuning from the 9'th string and added a 4th up on the 1'st string?

[@feydrinend]

7 Strings Life style

[@SynthChris]

I’d recommend checking out The Bunn’s channel for more baritone 6-string content if you decide to go with that option

[@AUTI5T1X]

Rabea Massaad is also a killer baritone 6 player.

[@magmarok8209]

Found out that I need a seven string tuned ADADGBE for extended range chords with the joe pass style for how I play.

[@Mikaisafk]

What brand was that fan fret guitar ?

[@Hiro.the.God.]

I don’t know, that 10 string didn’t sound great. At least it’s not my cup of tea. But you are badass on that 7 and 8.

[@patientmental875]

Somebody explain this to Ibanez because the majority of 7-strings they have made since going into production are all 25.5

[@CarlosSaulRodriguezA]

There are some fanned frets 7's and 8's Harley bentons in Thomann for just 300 and they are pretty decent and gorgeous looking

[@MusoraOfficial]

They definitely look intriguing

[@prehistoricgmanbirb]

Legator seems to have great deals on their fanned fret 7s. I picked mine up in March for 50% off, originally $650.

[@CarlosSaulRodriguezA]

@@prehistoricgmanbirb Yeah they usually have good prices. I just remembered Agile guitars too, fair cheap and decent quality with tons of options (to be honest, i won't buy Agile cause i don't like 'em too much, but they could be a really good option anyways)

[@prehistoricgmanbirb]

@@CarlosSaulRodriguezA I used to want an Agile when I was younger, but that's was because they had the only 9 string I could find. From what I've heard the quality has gone down hill a bit, but I could be wrong though since I haven't played one in like 10 years.

[@CarlosSaulRodriguezA]

@@prehistoricgmanbirb exactly, agree. That's what i meant without being too hater to agile since i don't have one to prove it

[@808BassMetal]

Andrew why don't you have an Ormsby?

[@aniketacharya512]

yOu CaN jUsT tUnE LoWeR. I have a Floyd rose man 😂

[@justusdaniel3913]

😭😭 same here😭

Get a tremol-no guys. It's magic. Thanks me later.

[@Fragments_Ov_Shattered_Malice_]

Time to buy a digitech drop

[@thomassojka1324]

Hi, what VST plugins do you use to edit the sound of guitars? The sound on video is amazing..... Thank you so much for the reply....

[@LillianAredhel]

I play my 24.75' 6 string in C# Standard.

[@JOE-we2wf]

I play my "27" 7 string guitar in DROP G.

[@iamabominati0n970]

Ah, a man of culture as well.

[@jfo3000]

Like Iommi does.

[@brandonmack8573]

I tuned my jackson dinky 6 to drop g# The strings are the same gauge as my acoustic strings though lol top 56- 13

[@TheHallberger]

Choosing a video length that is 13:27 is just pure cruelty...

[@jordanpurcell5161]

I feel like there is a sound difference using the same tuning but different scale length. Drop A on my 25.5 scale 7 doesn’t have the punch my Drop A does on my 27” Almost piano like.

[@josuastangl7140]

There's definately more definition on a longer scale, less muddy.

[@blahblahsen1142]

i did the opposite of adding more strings for range extension. after a fun lil powertool accident that fucked my left hand i converted all my 6-string guitars to 5 string and instead of drop tuning the low string 4 notes instead of the standard 3, i space all the strings 4 notes apart each string. you end up with a 6-string range on a 5-string guitar. the strings are now physically further apart and also musically further apart in pitch. i do have a 6-string fretless bass but its more for goofing

[@Robinyoheart]

why does the left part of your mouth not move ??? :) no hate.

[@SuperRicoPico]

Gr8 vid. Thanks. Do you know of a multi-scale guitar (8 string) with 24.75 scale on high strings?

[@pierre19x]

What brand is that fanned fret guitar at the end? Its amazing🤟

[@freezingjazzy]

Fast Guitars. They're a custom guitar brand out of Canada.

[@fredshred8397]

Very informative and valuable video material. :) Thank you. Will share my experience with you and the audience and hope it will be informative for others. I had JacksonX Series SLAT7 MS Soloist Archtop with 25.5" - 27" Multi-Scale/Fan Fret Length, String gauge: 13-17-30-42-54-64-74 in Drop G tuning. At first it was in Drop A tuning and then I lowered it to Drop G later. I ended up selling it. Currently I own ESP E-II Horizon NT-7 EverTune with 25,5 Scale Length, String gauge: 13-17-30-42-54-64-74 in Drop A tuning. As you see, both have String gauge: 13-17-30-42-54-64-74, because all the thinner ones I tried in 65 to 70 range as the lowest string, the 7'th string went always sharp and out of tune, so I had to put thicker string on as the 7'th one. I have not yet tried the drop G tuning with E-II and 25,5 scale length to see, whether the 74 will do the trick or not. I had to buy the 8 string set package to keep those beasts in tune and without getting sharp, the 7 string packages did not work for me from those options I had on the table. Until now, 7 strings is enough for me in terms of sound and of course I have been thinking about 6 string baritone, the 8 string guitar reminds me the basketball sound, so I have had currently no desire to own one, although I tried the 8 string Jackson but choose the 7 string one. The 8 string guitar neck is like a log/timber, but again I have played the 6 string so much, that the 7 string neck was definitely better for me. But again you already explained well in the video. :) But again, it's very good that we as musicians and guitarists have so many options on the market and everyone can choose what they need. Hope this information will be informative. :) Cheers Andrew (Y)

[@matthewmerrill1433]

drop E is possible with drilling the tuner head a little and using a bass string, not everyones pick but works for me

[@Sanya_paket]

If it is my first guitar, and I want to play riffs in drop A (like Slipknot), should I buy a 7-string or a 6-string?

[@freezingjazzy]

If you're just gonna play Drop A slipknot riffs, go ahead. They have Drop B riffs too so that's a hurdle you'd have to get over. I'd say go with a 6, then buy some thick strings. That way you can tune between Drop B and Drop A easily.

[@tbash96]

What pick ups are you singing in your 8 string multiscale? I've been looking for something better than my stock pickups

[@michaellohr7683]

Very nice, very informative, very balanced!

[@nikok8329]

Great video! I would love to see more extended range guitar content!

[@fabiopoll6382]

Great video!!!!