7 Times Fans Had to Fix the Game

[@ShieldofTerror]

"In tears, we had to ask Luigi to leave." Nice to know VG game designers _also_ will talk about their fictional characters as if they were real people.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

I mean, it's more surprising that we do than they do, in my opinion.

[@xXCursedWorgenXx]

Video Game Game?

[@Anastas1786]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Do you suppose they still paid him for the scenes he'd already shot?

[@RobinParravel]

@@Anastas1786 I hope they did

[@ledumpsterfire6474]

@@Anastas1786 Unlikely. Japanese labor laws are worse than the US in many regards. Especially with Luigi being Italian? Yeah, no. He definitely got screwed.

[@WittyPractitioner]

The fact that we STILL don't have an official Mother 3 release outside of Japan both hurts very badly and means the fan translation should definitely be on this list. Those people are heroes

[@AlmightyPolarBear]

Let's hope if it ever gets brought to the rest of the world it will not be for a limited time.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

@@AlmightyPolarBear I doubt we'd get even that Monkey's Paw. The chances for _Mother 3_ to get any type of official release basically died with Mr. Iwata unfortunately.

[@D_YellowMadness]

@@MusicoftheDamned And if it does happen, it'll probably be a 3D remake where all the characters look like cheap Fisher Price toys & you have to use a touch screen in battle & motion controls to talk to people outside of battle. Also, there'll be a Mega Happy Ending that misses the whole point of the story & all the NPCs will be unnamed Mr. Saturns.

[@technodude458]

@@D_YellowMadness Who hurt you

[@MoonstruckMelody]

@@D_YellowMadness What exactly is this based on...?

[@gruggerduggerhoose]

“Thats what you get when you put all of your points in sexterity.” Jane “charisma modifier” Douglas 2022

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Just don't overdose on Beauty. That never worked much in Arcanum.

[@SidneyBroadshead]

It's the sexiest Attribute!

[@kingcaz1990]

Ah yes. A Bard's favorite skill

[@SSJ3CyLink]

I still hope for an Arcanum remaster or something

[@anarchyantz1564]

Our Dark Queen Jane has always got high points in sexterity.

[@Fenrisaconite]

I am crying with laughter at Jane's footage from Gothic 3. The punch-walking animation is just so funny. He looks he's doing his best impression of a train.

[@Its4UBabe]

I was already cry-laughing and then I read the bit about impression of a train and lost it more 😅 Thanks

[@jericoba]

It's fantastic!

[@johanngp6200]

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[@johanngp6200]

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[@nonbeenary]

“My face looks like a monkey’s butt” I’m both not surprised by and happily enjoying the translation of Mike’s Japanese subtitles.

[@lukas8670]

I scrolled through the comments to see if anyone else had translated it. So glad to see I'm not the only one who knew those subtitles couldn't be what Mike was saying. It's OxBox.

[@itbevee]

only they didn't say butt :D

[@edumazieri]

@@lukas8670 I recognized monkey and that it was saying something about himself so then I had to find a full translation :D totally worth it

[@realism_logic]

"My face looks like that of a monkey." might be a closer translation, but the joke's great either way.

[@radiobee-t8884]

@@realism_logic 尻 (shiri) is butt. Literally "My face looks like a monkey's butt."

[@RainbowEssence-c3w]

Seriously that modder that singlehandedly fixed Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines deserves a huge paycheck and should be hired to make the next Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines game.

[@justanotheranimeprofilepic]

He's still active in the community and updating. WWE love wesp

[@Zoso14892]

To be fair, brilliant members of the community are still fixing PC games to this day. I'm always grateful for the modding community!

[@joeljohnson7420]

One of the more recent examples being the tragedy that is Titanfall

[@BlackMoonHowls]

If only game devs would stop stopping people from fixing their games like CD Projekt Red.

[@narcspector]

Yeah I think it's actually more prevalent today than it was then, there's like a new mod every 5 seconds that everybody's talking about, remember Sifu with Neo and John Wick? That's a recent example and I've seen like 50 other ones since then, and I'm not even a PC gamer. And I know she's talking specifically about fixing stuff, but that happens all the effing time too, I see it constantly on like... "game journo sites" or whatever the hell I look at, I don't even know lol

[@filegnaru]

The hacking and modding scene for the switch is alive and well. Fixing things and adding things to games released on switch. Or porting games/making emulators to run on switch.

[@mzaite]

They have to. Developers have been becoming progressively less competent as development standards have rotted over the past 10 years.

[@hadorstapa]

Duct tape mod for Doom 3 wasn't technically essential, but it did massively improve the game. It didn't eliminate all tension and fear, and it did made sense that a space-faring army might just have access to duct tape.

[@NutSaxs]

But the doom slayer just had to show the power of the duct tape he splits everything in half?

[@arthas640]

that mod made so much sense. Guns with lights on them are _ancient_ with a renaissance era shield designed for use similar to a flashlight mounted on a gun and the first real production model flashlight gun attachment coming out in 1900, they were even used back when you needed huge incandescent bulbs and heavy dry cell batteries, and now they're practically standard issue for police for military who are in an urban environment. Having a guy in space without a powerful tiny LED light on his gun is like a man in the Wild West still using an arquebus.

[@LadyAndreca]

One of the Sims 2 expansions broke the memory system so bad that every playthrough you were just praying the bugged memory didn't show up and corrupt your save. When a fan finally found a fix, Maxis ended up using the fan fix as the official one, because they hadn't been able to figure it out.

[@isthattee]

and EA's ignorance continued thru Sims 3 with its neverending lags and broken world etc

[@Jillbles]

Oh, yeah! My Sims game... may have been 2 or 3 - wouldn't save anything that you did if you left your house. So if you went to another destination via an expansion, the minute you came home, it was like you'd never left. I couldn't progress at all. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@SgtPotShot]

The Sims 3 doesn't have a frame limiter. It was possible to damage your video card through overheating. It was fixed in a later patch in the options menu, and vsync in full screen fixes it, too.

[@renleo2836]

Petition for this comment to be in the commentator version of this video.

[@annana6098]

If I remember correctly, the apartments expansion of Sims 2 caused all Sims to go outside to pay their rent in the afternoon, causing all vampires effected to commit suicide. Children would go to school sometimes and never return. Modders fixed all of this, often within days of the bug being discovered. Sims would get stuck in bed or in chairs so much that I downloaded a mod just to make it easier to get them out.

[@Killbairn]

It's hilarious to think that a decade ago, there was actually a crazy feud happening in every comment section between Wesp5 and Tessera over whose patch was the true patch for Bloodlines and what the true Bloodlines experience was supposed to be, and now no one even knows that True Patch Gold exists, let alone who Tessera is. Apparently the arc of the universe bends towards justice.

[@SomeIdiota]

Heck, if the guy didn't just flat-out refuse to update the patch for Windows 10 because "It's Windows 10", people might still know or care. It's all his own doing.

[@iceman42dave18]

I love how wesp5 still responds to questions in the VTMB Steam discussion thread pinned at the top, the one specifically for his fantastic patch. I've had questions on a couple of updates to the patch (the latest being 11.2) and was amazed to get such quick replies from none other than the mod creator himself.

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

Tessaras own fault honestly.

[@RedSpade37]

True Patch Gold is false!? I... I have never actually played Bloodlines before then! This calls for a toast! Pour that red in my glass!

[@paperip1996]

Official petition to have Jane stream "Can you beat Gothic 3 with only punching"

[@nickdejager8873]

With or without the mod?

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

And my like makes 69. My work here is done.

[@mikemiles2241]

@@nickdejager8873 without

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Sign me up.

[@samplesowoopass]

The punching did seem kinda OP honestly hahaha; just stun-locked the NPC into oblivion. At least until an ornery bucket appears.

[@TheFrugalVideoGamer]

With KOTOR II, a big part of that was that they initially had a deal for a longer span of time - but since they didn't get it in writing, LucasArts was able to demand they bump it up. Even worse, Obsidian wanted to release *official* patches for the content, but LA put the kibosh on the idea. Edited for context - this was a decision by LucasArts, the publisher (not necessarily George Lucas personally) to speed up development time because they wanted it available for sale for Christmas.

[@danielharvison7510]

So Lucasarts seems to not really have wanted the game to exist at all, is that correct? I mean, if that isn't sabotaging the game they're trying to release, I don't know what is!

[@nicktubara]

@@jamin12342 he's always hated the idea of any description nor any method of what or how the force is or works. Let's also not forget George wanted a teamup between that female sith and a descendant of darth maul in a force unleashed 3 game. I can respect him as a creator and a storyteller of all things SW but as someone that is so restrictive and rigid in bringing new ideas and concepts into SW lore i can't get behind someone like that. He sold the ip to disney for billions n then complains about the new sequel trilogy after the fact. He really seems like a real piece of work to have as your boss if you ever had to work for him.

[@captainnikoorphan5345]

@@nicktubara To be fair the sequels are trash. Even Mark Hamill criticized them and he loved SW. I should think the original creator should be very discerning in what he considers to be canon (or allows at the time)

[@DDDHunter]

@@nicktubara I mean wanting one of the main power of your world to be mysterious and unexplained is hardly being restrictive to new ideas.

[@nicktubara]

@@DDDHunter it is when you don't allow for others that are bought in to make the ip more relevant and fresh and intriguing. Let's be clear on this it is known that when working for someone as well known and respected as George Lucas one of the things to accept when working at Lucasarts is that you never say no to George, about anything. Even if he comes up with an idea or theme you just gotta appease him in a way without coming off as condescending. This sort or ass kissing stifles any kind of creative development on any medium tv film or game. Star Wars' sequel trilogy is what we got bcos the moron that directed the 2nd one decided he's gonna just do what he feels that should look good on screen without trying to hear any feedback from other people. And if there were feedback that he didn't like he'd just get them fired. You can't bring great ideas and twists to anything while someone on the higher up decides they know better and has control issues.

[@evolancer211]

Vampire the masquerade was such a great play. It's kinda crazy to think the mod is pretty much a system requirement haha

[@amythistxue1]

the mod is so important if you buy the GOG version of the game it comes with the fan patch already installed

[@ulfrick11]

​@@amythistxue1 Thats cool.

[@travcollier]

Troika ware legend. Fallout (while working for Interplay), Arcanum, and VTMB. Games which were put out full of bugs with lots of cut content, yet were still great.

[@jasonblalock4429]

@@amythistxue1 Although I believe the GOG patched version is out of date at this point, so you'd still want to download the latest version of the patch.

[@lechking941]

@@jasonblalock4429 no suprise there

[@SaintOfQuotation]

Shoutout to Michael "Slowbeef" Sawyer for his work on policenauts as well as his importance for early game commentary playthroughs. An underappreciated voice in the culture for sure.

[@Life_Universe_Everything]

“Join us for more complaining that Vampire: the masquerade - Bloodlines 2 isn’t out.” Honestly same.

[@ExeErdna]

Honestly they should have just released it and let the modders work on fixing what else they had left.

[@Cthulhuwarlord]

@@ExeErdna have you seen cyberpunk? No, thanks

[@MinakoKen]

@@Cthulhuwarlord No we saw vtm bloodlines 1 and yes pls ! Fandom wil fix it just give us the game...

[@ExeErdna]

@@Cthulhuwarlord Have you see all the mods for VTMB? If the engine was something more stable like how it would have been with Bloodlines 2 modder could have done much more.

[@Cthulhuwarlord]

@@ExeErdna doesn’t change the fact the game launch was terrible. If mods are required to make the game bearable that’s atrocious for consumers

[@GarmrKiDar]

Jane's Gothic 3 segment is a masterpiece, and I hereby petition for it to be forever preserved in the neuroservers of the future transhuman hivemind

[@carsongiles7024]

I’m surprised project 06 wasn’t on here, sonic 06 is one of the most infamously buggy games out there and fans took it upon themselves to fix it, quite admirable if I do say so myself.

[@TCBStudios]

I know right? I was going to comment the same. Maybe we'll see it on the commenters edition.

[@carsongiles7024]

@Mcheetah that’s fair and all, but it does still fit the criteria of “fans fixing the game” even if it isn’t a direct bug fix to the software

[@maniacalfoxy]

that or the unofficial patches for any bethesda game after new vegas

[@seamistseamist]

Surprised SA1 isn't here either

[@cartervoltfire4933]

I just wanna say, 'Sonic the hedgehog The Movie The Game'

[@anon_y_mousse]

If you played the original version of FF7 when it came out, that slap fight with Tifa and Scarlet was hilarious, but most importantly, it was hugely gratifying to smack Scarlet around for all the trouble she caused you.

[@CobraAce04]

“For the purposes of this video let’s blame Konami” There is precious little in this world you can’t blame Konami for

[@nerdicusdorkum2923]

For everything else, there is EA.

[@alexroy5854]

@@nerdicusdorkum2923 And for everything else, there's Mastercard

[@achtsekundenfurz7876]

_laughs in_ *^ ^ v v < > < > b a*

[@goroakechi6126]

@@alexroy5854 For everything else, there’s Lockheed Martin.

[@CD-Gaming]

Well, unless it is indeed EA's fault, as pointed out, then... Actually... you know what... I got... I got nothing... And no, I'm not speaking as a Yu-Gi-Oh! Player... oh, who am I kidding? I AM speaking as a Yu-Gi-Oh! Player!

[@whatwilliwatch3405]

3:11 "What if he'd said no?" Well, this IS Luigi we're talking about. He was probably relieved not to have to risk life and limb in 3D for a while.

[@Stratelier]

Jane's experience with Gothic 3 is what it must feel like to be an essential NPC in Skyrim.

[@insaincaldo]

We have all been mad at an NPC who couldn't die, then left them out under the ice fields.

[@tyrannicpuppy]

Damn. Jane brought some truly savage jokes and real-world observations here. And Mike was brilliantly sassy as always. One of my favourite OX videos ever, more for the delivery than the actual topic.

[@PineappleLiar]

I think that there’s a valuable lesson here in that the mid-2000s was the unfortunate lull period where video game scope and crunch time started to get real bad, while also being just a bit too early on for the ‘fix it after launch’ update format hadn’t yet been established.

[@callumdonington2227]

Which is a shame because it was also a time where mid tier developers could release an original IP and get real market share.

[@Soroboruo]

Yeah, the ability to patch and mod so freely isn't necessarily bad but I hate how sloppy game devs can be and still make money. Part of the reason I try to never buy Early Access anything anymore unless the reviews are REALLY good. Plus, a lot of people don't think of the game industry as a serious one, so there's not a lot of formal ruling in terms of industrial or professional standards ATM, though that's hopefully changing...

[@badideagenerator2315]

@@Soroboruo I think a law should be passed which makes any multiplayer game which hasn't received any major updates or recieved sequels for 5 or more years become a public domain.

[@chillaxboi2109]

@@Soroboruo But what "professional standards" would you want to add? I don't think you can go to a movie, watch it, deem it bad and then say it is not worth to get a receipt. Are they "sloppy" or is the result just not expected. If you can start something artistic, from start to end. You cannot have been scammed out of the money. I think the gambling should be vilified and taken out of games, maybe a maximum on microtransactions per piece, DLC, in-game garment, etc. But that is about it. There is something in your house that was made cheaply and its creator/producer still rakes in money. Would you really want him to expoit his workers more in order to keep on gathering/build on his profits?

[@justanotheranimeprofilepic]

My idea on why that era got hit so hard was that as games were becoming bigger on PC publishers were still expecting development times like the old days when you could have 1 team release several games a year. You had to both meet the expectation of the public of a big interactive game so it would sell well while meeting the publishers demands of doing it in a year if you were lucky

[@DMRetroLP]

My favourite thing about Daikatana is still the fact the protagonist's legendary sword master ancestor is named *Usagi* Miyamoto. I assume they were going for Musashi but ended up with the protagonist of Usagi Yojimbo instead. Yes, Hiro Miyamoto's ancestor was apparently a rabbit.

[@chichoskruch21]

The fact that KotOR2 had so little time to be developed and came up as it did is still amazing, tbh. In 18 months most studios would only have laid the foundations of a game this big and Obsidian delivered a game that was (mostly) playable. Also no matter how much you talk about VTMB, you never talk enough about it, it's that great of a game, so keep it up!

[@corrinestenman5683]

Agreed, and the content that did make it to launch was pretty damn awesome too.

[@RageUnchained]

I really just wish that the Bith quest on Nar Shadaa had closure

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

The entire opening was a slog. I always hated having to redo the mining station. Really wish the cut content had made it in. Some of it later got recycled into Swtor.

[@samplesowoopass]

Obsidian seems like it can dish out a real nice sequel when they're under pressure. FNV was done under a huge time-crunch as well.

[@corrinestenman5683]

@@justinlast2lastharder749 maybe I'm weird, but I liked the opening. It had a real survival horror atmosphere to it, like you wake up in a strange location after a robot apocalypse (as far as you can tell at first), and you have to piece together what happened while surviving (and escaping) with minimal resources. Still, I can see how that's not everyone's cup of tea.

[@karlthepain7491]

I've played that Kung Fu Panda Game as a child once, when I didn't know about wasd yet and was only used to the arrow keys. So I didn't know how to move, but realised pretty early on that I could move by punching like Jane did in Gothic 3, which was actually my favourite game, when I was 12.

[@fpchase]

Let's not kid ourselves, Mike would absolutely add a garage to the Taj Mahal. If he could he would add garages to everything

[@harisdraganovic1877]

Bp oko7888

[@collinbeal]

Garage for mah haul

[@Hellheart]

I dunno... Garages don't just automatically come with cars. I know this applies to the US and UK, anyway. Maybe other countries are different...? 😂

[@Avrysatos]

The most tragic/funny part of the vampire the masquerade bloodlines thing is the patch has been endorsed by the laid off developers more than once.

[@aa-km1nk]

Some of the patches were written by the original developers who wanted to fix the game. :D

[@Avrysatos]

@@aa-km1nk When i looked for a guide to get it to work i found a (no longer online) guide from a former developer on which patches to add.

[@eternaldarkness3139]

I can't be the only one expecting this to just list 7 Bethesda games...

[@7lukeiamyourfather7]

it could actually be just 7 skyrim releases

[@FelisImpurrator]

I can't like it, it's already 69.

[@silverdededestruction2197]

I'm shocked and disappointed that skyrim didn't even show up. Super Mario 64 doesn't even deserve a spot here since that was just a cut feature and the entire game was complete from start to finish

[@nerovondoom6298]

I expected this. How can it not be how modders made their game better and functional?

[@StealYourFace7731]

I knew someone would say this (or else I would have).

[@maximiliancunningham6598]

When they brought up super Mario 64, I totally thought they were going to bring up the missing compiler optimisation flag that, when added back in, makes submarine in dire dire docks fully loadable without frame issues.

[@katfromthekong414]

"They had to ask Luigi to leave .... games are definitely not made how I thought they were made." 😂

[@LigH_de]

Thank you for mentioning Gothic 3. Even though it was barely known outside the German speaking area, it was one of the most successful RPG series here, part 1 and 2 were pioneers in the creation of a credible, immersive and relatable open world, with NPCs living daily life cycles and having unique charming characters. We fans seriously hope that the planned remake of part 1 will not fail, its teaser had game design issues comparable with some of part 3 (a lack of immersion, we don't need to be told what to think, like in ELEX). Indeed, the "Community Patch" for Gothic 3 fixed a lot: quests, game mechanics, lore ... they even added a subtle memorial for Mud, the most annoying character in Gothic 1, in a comforting way. But the notorious main issue in Gothic 3, apart from mechanical bugs, was the difference in immersion. Opposite to parts 1 and 2 where you started to build not just a party, but almost emotional friendships with the main characters, part 3 started with separation and lacked of emotional binding more and more. Your party members never felt so much like walk-on characters in the previous parts. As if the creativity of the development team had burned out. If you understand German, you must watch the anniversary video by the GameStar magazine about Gothic 3.

[@czapla1024]

Germans tend to not realize that Gothic is even bigger phenomenon in Poland than in its country of origin. For example, there is only one country in the world where "Gothic" is googled more often than "Skyrim" and it's not Deutschland...

[@LigH_de]

@@czapla1024 - thank you for this insight. And of course, we appreciate the success of Polish game developers too. I enjoyed the freedom of choice and the mesh of consequences in the Witcher series just as well.

[@abydosianchulac2]

Yes, Sexterity had finally become OX canon outside a few stream mentions!

[@ddjsoyenby]

jane keeps making it even better.

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

I want an Oblivion mod that adds "Sexterity" as a stat. Only because everyone in the game looks like a potato, so making the hideous player a sex machine would be hilarious.

[@robertagu5533]

@@MegaManXPoweredUp until EVERY living thing wants to bed your character. Even the animals, creatures, & plant life... Sure would make the the Boss Battles... Interesting

[@nightmarethrenody8232]

@Robert Agu Having seen Skyrim mods, there’s almost certainly one that does that already.

[@sarahisquiethere]

This is blowing my mind bc I was playing through Grandia with my sister and we ABSOLUTELY had to do some grinding, bc we were struggling with enemies. What a way to learn we were actually noobs :') also prayer circle for a Grandia remaster, bc its genuinely one of the best games of all time

[@unknowable4147]

Reminds me of the sims 4 wedding stories mess. Sims were having breakdowns on where to sit so that when they finally sat down they wouldn't stand up again Not to mention that no one could save the game at all for like a week after the expansion came out, sometimes without even owning said expansion :/

[@Mldy96]

You forgot the part where the *entire* wedding system and other gameplay bits were mostly unplayable in general... meanwhile Carl, who was a relative newcomer (compared to the more well-known mod-fix veterans) when it comes to modding, fixed most of the shite EA forced Maxis to release in its pre-alpha state.

[@cierrajames]

As someone who wasn’t as lazy as Mike and had actually learned Japanese, those Japanese subtitles were the funniest thing I’d seen in ages! Love your work!!!

[@wiseforcommonsense]

What did they say?

[@emmajames9677]

@@wiseforcommonsense "My face looks like a monkey's arse."

[@wiseforcommonsense]

@@emmajames9677 oh man....thank you

[@wildste]

​@@wiseforcommonsenseAs the other comment has disappeared, do you remember what it said?

[@wiseforcommonsense]

@@wildste I really wish I could remember 😔 so sorry, bit it has been a year. I don't even remember this video

[@ShadowHeart063]

I literally beat Knights of the Old Republic 2 with the content restored mod yesterday. It's such a fantastic game and it's a shame that Obsidian couldn't finish it.

[@Cailus3542]

We'll hopefully see the remake of KOTOR 2 in 2026, maybe 2027. That game, I expect, will very much be complete.

[@brewthebeer6344]

Is a shame that obsidian never gets to fully finish there games, for example fallout nv, just because some boss wants the game released as soon as possible so they can make that money and move on

[@Soroboruo]

"Volunteer developers" is the best title I've heard for "modders who made your entire whole game WORK" I'm using that from now on.

[@shimozu92]

KotOR 2 was the first thing I thought of when I heard this was going to be today's list. Couldn't stand it for 20 minutes when it first came out. It's amazing with the restored content.

[@LegendStormcrow]

The bugs are nowhere near as bad as modern games. I actually enjoyed it.

[@Lemmingofdoom]

Nice to see Grandia on a list ^^’ for the Switch remaster I tried to get Sue’s Magic all to LV99, surprisingly easy to do Except for Wind Curse the Wind

[@ktcrvdpoak]

In the Policenauts section, Mike should have mentioned that one of the translators was a man named Michael Sawyer, aka, Slowbeef. A man who pretty much single handedly invented the medium of "Let's Play"!

[@angelus816]

Always love the love you give to VtM:B. It's one of my favorite games of all time. If it wasn't already installed on my PC (in 5 different versions), I would reinstall it now. As the saying goes, "every time someone mentions Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines, someone reinstalls it."

[@aa-km1nk]

That's an idea. :D I haven't played it for ages... :D

[@phantomeyebrow]

I absolutely love the face that there are flawed gems out there that receive such love and attention from fan patches. Honorable mention to the Circle of Eight patch for Temple of Elemental Evil (another Troika offering).

[@michaelandreipalon359]

This.

[@alandye6471]

VTM Bloodlines is such a masterpiece. I was one of the folks that bought it in 2004 and it wouldn't even load, it was so broken. I didn't get to play it for years until I found out about the patch...

[@Nick30468]

Oh boy, the VTMB fan patches...I remember when I first picked up the game and went to go grab a patch. essentially there were two different ones at the time. one to just fix the bugs, and another to fix and also add a bunch of new stuff in the game. Both great, just depended on what you wanted...but the sites were full of fans breaking out into a massive argument over which was better. I do mean a real argument, complete with hateful slurs and death threats. I know it's the internet and I've seen some rough stuff but I've never seen anything like that, even on other topics like Politics. Crazy to me, they both did different things and did them well, how could any be better? it just depended on what you wanted, right? Anyways, cut to ten years later I found myself wanting to replay the game (a feeling I'm sure most VTMB fans get lol) and set out to redownload the patches...apparently one has gone defunct so the other is now offering both options in the form of two different installers....and even though it's been a decade, even though one person was offering both options now...the arguments were *still* occurring! I mean I like the game and all but the patch-fan-base is just yikes!

[@olu550]

From what I've heard the World of Darkness fandom is kinda batshit in general. I can't remember specifics, but this came from a member of the Warhammer 40k fandom, so I'm inclined to believe.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

The Basic Patch is the more better patch for me, but the Plus Patch has its moments.

[@nibblitman]

@@olu550 Yeah the intense WoD people are really intense

[@KyhronLuna]

@@olu550 The World of Darkness in general is absolutely batshit so yeah some of the fandom is batshit but for the most part people are pretty cool.

[@boobah5643]

@@KyhronLuna _World of Darkness_ has a batshit fanbase because it was basically the first RPG to come at the hobby as a theater nerd first rather than a wargaming nerd.

[@derperpines]

Wesp5 is such a dedicated fan to Bloodlines and continues improving the fan patch even today. Gotta give them respect for going for that long and not even getting sick of doing so.

[@2013Fangirl]

I need an Oxbox shirt that says "console gaming made us soft."

[@juliothom2408]

I’d buy it.

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

You be soft? U be soft? U bi soft... Ubisoft!

[@mskiara18]

Thank you for taking the time to share this video. Policenauts has been one of the game I wanted to check off my bucket list and try, so I hope I can try the fan translation one day. I hope the developers of these games do not punish fans for creating these fixes, but congratulate them.

[@user-wj6eq1cx7x]

You can actually play the policenauts translation on Android now through a PS1 emulator.

[@brianschoner3350]

I'd add Temple of Elemental Evil as an honorable mention - the so-called "Circle of Eight" modpack is an enormous set of bug fixes and restored content, and there's also Temple+, which is basically a complete engine-level rebuild of the game plus new feats, races, and classes.

[@jodinsan]

I remember I uninstalled ToEE when I learned that I could use a Wizard to craft a Cantrip scroll for 0 GP and _sell_ it for 1 GP, thus giving me an infinite amount of gold straight out of the gate at level 1. I never found any other bugs lol.

[@psychodrummer1567]

To be fair, I expected both Troika and Obsidian to have two entries on the list.

[@bgl7702]

I'm so glad Knights of the Old Republic 2 is on here- the restored content mod is so essential that the Mod is on the opening screen and recommended for play by the developers themselves. I mean, KotOR 2 isn't *impossible* to play without the restored content, but given it was only given 14 months to be made because the parent company wanted it out in time for Christmas, it's so much better to just add in the mod like the start-up screen tells you too. The start of the game is the most completed, but the further you get into the game the more you just see empty corridors with enemies you've fought before coming in waves. *Great* lore, and you can tell they had huge plans, but time just didn't co-operate. (the only thing I don't like about the restored content mod is that it gets rid of my favourite infinite exp glitch and that's easy enough to fix with a second mod.)

[@JT-yl9yt]

tbh I still like playing KOTOR 2 better than the first one simply because you could do more gameplay wise probably had 3 playthroughs of it and don't remember any bugs but that was back on Xbox or the 360 can't remember which one it came out on originally. It was still a pretty great game to play without any changes.

[@RedSpade37]

The respawning-dark-side-dinosaurs near the corpse that activates, over and over, when you touch it? The one where you can crash your Xbox if you spawn too many of them & use Force Lightning? That infinite exp glitch? Darn...

[@bgl7702]

@@RedSpade37 Yup that one, though I've only played Kotor2 on Laptops, never had an issue with the game running. If you are having trouble, try triggering the spawn once, killing them, then re-triggering it, and so on, so you only ever face two at once.

[@RedSpade37]

@@bgl7702 You're 100% right. I haven't thought about it in years, but when you mentioned it, I was like "That was the only thing I remember crashing my Xbox back in the day" What a game, haha. I have the PC version installed with the mod and everything, but it remains untouched, sadly. Maybe one day.

[@TheStrikingN1nja]

Love the Japanese writing at 15:49… Translates to “My face looks like a monkey’s butt”

[@NotKyleChicago]

I google translated it and confirm.

[@lionocyborg6030]

When I read it, I thought it said “my face looks like a monkey”. I guess I hadn’t seen the word for butt before.

[@kyleherron4783]

You know how far I scrolled before I found this comment? Too far!

[@supershinigami1]

@@NotKyleChicagoWhat exactly did you type into it?

[@notos1234]

I scrolled too far to confirm this

[@BURGATRON]

That Gothic 3 bug is so funny! So strange though that even if you only last until the tutorial, it gained loyal enough fans to work hard to fix it

[@RKBock]

gothic 3 is basically the fallout 76 of the gothic series. so... it gained the fans through gothic 1 and 2 (both masterpieces and far far better than fallout or anything bathesda really). also: her bug is really unique. i never encountered it when starting the game. that said, it has an unreasonable amount of bugs, missing quests, missing "skill teachers", etc. without the patch. and even with the patch it suffers from a bad game engine that basically can not use more than 2gb or so of RAM meaning that it will lag and stutter even if you have a rtx 4090 with an i9 13900kf.

[@BURGATRON]

@@RKBock Oh ok nice! Thanks for clarifying! Kind of sad to hear about its problems though. It looks like a really interesting game

[@Gaschdisturbed]

@@RKBock Remember the stunlocking boars of death? Good times.

[@Tomec86]

It's another of those "bad PC port" ones so I can kind of understand not hitting it, however Neir Automata on PC definitely fell in line with the whole "must be fixed by fans" thing. Lots of things were just not working (including simple things like resolution selection!) and they even named the fan patch "Fix Automata" lol

[@LilacMonarch]

Same with Dark Souls. The game wouldn't have taken off on PC without DSFix

[@AnslerIndustries]

What is amazing about this list is it shows that even though some games release in a bad, unplayable or otherwise disappointing state that in all logical reason should have the people who bought them abandon the game like the developers did, there are some people in the community dedicated enough to use their own free time to fix an absolute disaster, make improvements, and share it with everyone else.

[@TransGuyShane]

Sexterity is 100% a real stat Mike lol. I put it into my dnd game, i made a necklace that bumps up charisma and dex when flirting in honor of it 😜 Definitely comes in handy

[@robertagu5533]

So your strategy WAS basically to seduce EVERYTHING. Even the wildlife, plants, and everything and one that came across..

[@TransGuyShane]

@@robertagu5533 1000%

[@ringlhach]

Given Bloodlines, I was just going to say "The game calls it Charisma."

[@Soroboruo]

Yesssss KOTOR2! The cut content restoration is so ambitious and so cool! Jane's Gothic 3 journey reminds me of that "no walking" Skyrim run

[@RKBock]

ymfah: step one, acquire a bucket. Jane: I got my feet stuck in a bucket. ymfah: win the game Jane: stuck in a "death" loop (she was only knocked down)

[@fabianh5811]

As a former part of the gothic 2 modding community I saw the title and thought gothic 3. I just saw gothic 3 video material in the first minute and that made me very happy. I wanted to say that. Now on with the video :) Edit: Did you know the world-of-gothic community received an award for being the dumbest fan community in 2008 for fixing that mess? Good times :)

[@samplesowoopass]

Congratulations! That's pretty cool. I am curious, did people mod Gothic 3 because they thought it was good, if only it worked? Or was it more of a, "It might be good if we can get it to work." Or was it just because it was something to use their programming skills on/their enjoyment of taking something so broken and making it actually work? I guess there's also the community aspect of it as well.

[@davorbrijacak]

@@samplesowoopass Even with community patches that game still isn't that good, not even close to first two games, but fans love the franchise so much something had to be done.

[@J0XIN_YT]

"Boku no kao wa saru no shiri mitai" "My face is like a monkey's butt" I couldn't help but laugh at this beautiful gem.

[@PixelTvFr]

Not enough people mention that Mike's Japanese translation at 15:55 actually means "My face looks like a monkey's butt"

[@brunobrekalo5502]

Now that TF2 is developerless, the community is responsible for keeping the game alive by balancing it, making maps for it, and kicking the bots in it. Kinda strange it wasn't on the list. The community is basically in charge of updates.

[@kr0n05gaming7]

Yea. Northstar has become an integral part of Titanfall now

[@godsdragon]

This is because Tf2 was and is a playable game from the get go. Valve didn't release the game as a broken mess and left players to fix it, they did keep support up for eight years. The whole point of the video was the games that didn't get any developer love and fans had to come and fix everything.

[@Cohult]

In the time before mods, there were whole forums dedicated to how to avoid or fix yourself known fatal errors. Sometimes it was simply 'start over and it might not happen', other times you were editing code ('cause it was just in a big ol' word file)

[@עידומחלוף-ר4ח]

They didn't had to fix it, They chose to. It just goes to show how much passion and love those modders have for those games. And that's admirable. Some of these games are unfinished beacuse the lack of time and money. But those games, Sometimes, Are much better then "Finished games". VTMB, Pathologic, Fallout new vegas, Star wars Kotor 2, and many more are just an examples of unfinished games being more amazing then some finished games.

[@avenger5291]

I agree

[@kamo7293]

15:55 thank you endless anime watching... I got that sentence

[@musicadictor]

Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness is definitely one of those games. Although at the time the game was rushed and pushed out unfinished, it now has such a loving community that not only have many things been fixed, but there is a whole project on the works by a person who is basically remaking the game from scratch!

[@AllyUnion]

2:19 "Ask him to leave" -- Definitely a very Japanese thing.

[@rileytimes]

I listen to these videos while I drive, and the part where Jane described her Gothic 3 experience made me laugh so hard I had to pull over.

[@philipptar4288]

Thank you for mentioning SWKOTOR2. That game holds a special place in my heart with a lot of replays. When I found the mod as a teen, I was ecstatic. You made me feel that joy of discovery once more! Thank you!

[@Charlorian]

The sims 3 has massive patches to the world and AI to make it less laggy, but a better example is the, “Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch”, which aims fix ALL the bugs the developers never fixed.

[@moonlightedstar]

I was literally thinking the sims 3 and 4 had to be on here.

[@Herowebcomics]

OMG! That Gothic 3 segment!😂 "Orc puncher Steve!"🤣 Steve knew Karate in medieval times!

[@brianschoner3350]

Another 10/10 (or 7/7) episode! Jane's meta-list joke, the amazing Japanese subtitles, expertly incomplete sentences - great stuff!

[@nediojon749]

Grandia is still one of my favorite games no matter how easy or hard it is. this list shows what happens when games are forced out too fast

[@JoeL-yq1iv]

I sort of like the idea of an RPG where massive grinding isn't required.

[@iLLiCiT_XL]

I almost spit coffee allover my laptop at the "move by punching" bit. That was too much for me LMFAO!

[@kitmakin289]

I mean Luigi obviously DID say no to being asked to leave... because he could still be found hiding in the source code. How'd you miss that Mike? Also - genuine props to OutsideXbox for not jus' shoving in Bethesda's game catalogue in general and calling it a day.

[@kitmakin289]

@@capturedflame could have also thrown on Fallout 3 and 4 for flavour to break it up. And it'd still be all Bethesda. They really put the effort in to not go after Skyrim/Fallout.

[@gordonfreeman7320]

@@capturedflame or even morrowind, where jumping in vivec causes you to fall through the floor and crash the game half of the time

[@Wolf24fan]

"Boku no kao wa saru no shiri mitai." actually means "My face is like a monkey's butt."

[@mr.vanillamilkshake3]

To-Do List: Insert Black Mesa remake with gravity gun for outsidexbox testing initiative. Shade in a fan translation of Mother 3, for the feelsies. Patch in Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, whenever Project-06 finishes overhauling the Silver campaign and boss design. Apart from that, good choices, especially the Restored Content Mod!

[@whatsinaname7289]

15:56 "my face looks like a monkey's butt" lol I'm glad years of watching anime hadn't gone to waste.

[@17659817265781465781]

"DSFIX" made Dark Souls on PC the global hit it was. Also, I still haven't seen a picture of John Romero *not* smiling

[@kittinplus4]

god I love this channel, this isn't just entertainment (ok, fist-walking was amazing), it's proper history lessons in gaming's past. Keep it up guys!

[@Suraht]

This reminds me of The 7th Saga for the SNES. That game was legendary for its difficulty, but it turned out that the Japanese version was much easier. Why? There are a handful of things that got lost in the localization, including the way stats were supposed to grow as characters leveled, with the localization removing several stat boosts from the human controlled characters, but not the AI controlled characters, which leveled with you and ended up fighting you at various points in the story. Look it up for the full version, as it's kind of mind blowing if you care about that sort of thing.

[@jodinsan]

I didn't know that about 7th Saga. I just quit playing it because I didn't find it any fun, not because I thought it was too hard.

[@fukaze2021]

Are you trying to say that my OP Tetsujin is actually even stronger in original game?

[@Suraht]

Quite a bit, yes.

[@keeganlafferty1395]

so basically localization screwed us with more than just the dialogue with that game?

[@RedSpade37]

Also wanted to add the strange "Blocking for one turn and then attacking" mechanic was apparently another reason people had such an issue with the localization. I don't remember the specifics, but apparently blocking increases your defense stats for multiple turns, not just for one turn, like many other RPGs

[@jozinek876]

Recently I've been playing VTMB with the Unofficial Patch and it's great. Really enjoying it so far.

[@orthusgames9888]

I was legitametly surprised that Titanfall 2 wasn't on here. The Northstar client was created by the fans to fix the game when respawn decided to completely abandon it.... Though thinking about it now it does make a bit of sense considering that the game wasn't broken from the beginning

[@SlothLord452]

Thank you fellow tf2 player

[@orthusgames9888]

@@SlothLord452 your welcome Pilot

[@duhmitryov]

Been dipping in to watch you guys periodically for years, never subscribed though till today cause I somehow missed all your bloodlines ranting. Keep the bitter, calm, rage coming Jane. Eventually we’ll get bloodlines 2 ;-;

[@butter_scotch]

And if you are new around here, then enjoy your last few moments of obliviousness. These people won't let ever you forget about Vampire: The Masquerade. Not that I'm complaining.

[@hobbes5552]

If we are including translating mods, the I would say that Fire Emblem 6 should be included on this list. It is a super popular game that never released outside of Japan. Fans went and made a translation mod, played and felt the game was unbalanced, then made a whole separate update mod to rebalance the game.

[@owencross2993]

Is that Mangs' balance patch? Or is there another one?

[@hobbes5552]

@@owencross2993 I was thinking of project ember, but you are right in that Mangs was the one who did the balance patch. My mistake and thanks for the clarification

[@burntelsens]

Wesp5's unofficial patch has been on so many of my computers it no longer feels like a mod to me, it's like a brother.

[@Jayjayonjayjay]

I may be miss remebering as it was many, many moons ago but I seem to remember booting up Gothic 3 and finding that some of the controls were initially unbound, such as momement keys. Or maybe it was a glitch that caused them to become unbound later. I can't quite remember. Regardless, love the work and thanks for all the fantastic content.

[@IcebergTech]

I’m imagining an alternate timeline, where Kojima got to make licensed Lethal Weapon and Escape from New York in the 90s and thus single-handedly inspired a golden age of movie tie-ins

[@sktdrummer]

Been getting into mods on all my games lately and love this vid. Pls do more of this soon!

[@OmegaDoesThings]

VTMB dancing looks incredibly similar to some of the dancing in Mass Effect, and now I can't help but wonder if it was an intentional reference. (Also that moment when you know enough Japanese to understand the subtitle joke)

[@anthonymiller5625]

I cannot lie. I used google translate.

[@neolexiousneolexian6079]

Ooh, I'd love to see more VTM streaming/gameplay. That one Hallowstream was great.

[@Chris_Sizemore]

Kind of surprised Andy didn't bring up the fan made mod for Street Fighter V that drastically mitigated the delay in its netcode. Considering that a fighting game lives and dies by how it plays over the internet, this was a vast improvement to the game. It literally changed SF5 from one of the worst current generation fighting games to one of the best.

[@thetardyowlvg9155]

It's lovely people like you who are to thank for the commentor edition videos

[@Thornbloom]

Don't get Smash fans started on that.

[@princesszelda1997]

All your episodes are great, you guys, but this one is particularly 👌👌👌👌

[@joenesvick7043]

Oh I got restored content mod to Sith Lords, also got that planet with the droids where Vash is still alive, great stuff. Might need to check that Dustil Onasi mod when he survives the events of first game If your character from the first game did the darkside, then the second game assumed you played the entire game that way at least when it came to Ajunta Pall. Did find it weird when the Jedi that was thieving mentioned being with Shen Matale when the Sith invaded, guess I just didn't check his pulse when his quest ended in tragedy lol 😝

[@SixtySixHundred-1982]

This is one of your funnier videos. I got awkward looks from some of the other passengers on this train! 😂

[@spookyghostwriter3110]

Warcraft 3 reforged literally needed a fan community to even get a ladder matchmaking system. Perhaps a second video is needed?

[@TmOnlineMapper]

My all time favorite thing about Mario 64 is that Lugi probably didn't have to be cut from the game, as the developers forgot to enable compiler optimization flags. It's also evident, that they at least eventually learned about them, because the European (PAL I think) version does have them enabled. And if they had those flags enabled for the American and Japanese release (NTSC I think), the performance was good enough for both characters as community members that reverse engineered the code found out. A true tradegy. The currently most probably explanation is that compile times with the optimization flags were to high, so they disabled them for developement and simply forgot about them later or believed they were already on and therefore concluded that performance was just simply too bad and Luigi had to be cut.

[@4amlibra]

The Policenauts fan fix reminds me of Ace Attorney Investigations 2. Not only did fans translate and localize every single on-screen character and phrase to English, since Capcom didn’t bother, but they even added voice acting that matched the originals shockingly well. Thus we got “Prosecutor’s Path”, and I got to play Logic Chess as Miles Edgeworth (it was 100% worth it).

[@heartofthewild680]

Where can I play the English version of the game?

[@NivMizzet89]

@@heartofthewild680 Step 1: Acquire device that can play DS games (a DS, or an emulator). Step 2: Googling Gyakuten Kenji 2 should find a download link for the game Step 3: Get game into device and play.

[@4amlibra]

@@heartofthewild680I bought mine on eBay, normal Nintendo DS cartridge. It’s called “Prosecutor’s Path”.

[@reishijade]

As a Sims 4 player, modders are the backbone of the community. Can't trust EA to fix anything, ever.

[@jonathandavies1716]

A nice version of this is when a modder adds create something so good it gets added to a later official update of the game. One example was in Total War Warhammer 2. Norse could confederate via beating each other up. This was clearly a perfect fit for orcs. One modder made it so. Few patchs later it was added to the base game.

[@jorvach9874]

Another Oxboxtra fan talking about a Total War game? I thought I was the only one! Come into my embrace, brother! :D

[@Dylan-vd6rz]

6:29 😂🤣💀 the level of SHADE I'm dead