7 Types of People Stoicism WARNS Us About (AVOID THEM)

🏛 "Beware the Types Stoicism Warns About!" 🏛
Delve into the illuminating philosophies echoed by Seneca's letters, grasp the powerful warnings penned by Marcus Aurelius, and journey through Stoicism's core cautionary tales. Learn about the 7 types of individuals that Stoicism advises us to be wary of, and why. Whether you're a seasoned Stoic scholar or you're just dipping your toes into its rich teachings, this video sheds light on the characters that could divert us from a path of wisdom and virtue. It's not just about identifying these types, it's about understanding and navigating our relations with them. Ready to unravel age-old Stoic insights into human behavior?
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📍Timestamps:
0:00 Introductory quote of Epictetus
0:46 Type of People to Avoid #1 The Complainer
2:51 Type of People to Avoid #2 The Drama Magnet
5:25 Type of People to Avoid #3 The Naysayer
7:52 Type of People to Avoid #4 The Victim
10:19 Type of People to Avoid #5 The Toxic Positivist
13:12 Type of People to Avoid #6 The Manipulator
15:45 Type of People to Avoid #7 The Time Vampire
18:11 Reflection Upon Ourselves
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[@slo369]

This is true but if you are not self aware, you might think everyone around you has these toxic traits and completely not realize you are also the very person that you're trying to avoid

[@redshift912]

💯

[@crysosisback7115]

We're all those type of people, at times

[@nightbanegodnomadicdruid6698]

I am my own worst enemy. Knowing this, I seek people who are better than me and try to adjust my life to theirs. This wins as much as it loses but then I have learned more experience.

[@a2a918]

It's called discernment and not everyone possesses it. And we are creatures of habit so you can only fake it for so long

[@mysryuza]

Fr

[@simondanielsen1911]

We all suffer from these people, but we can all be these people too, from time to time (or for the less self aware, all the time). Self awareness is key to making sure we don't inflict these things on others.

[@Mrimperfections777]

Very intelligent thing to say.. Im currently working for a guy who can pull all these behaviours out and me being me(childhood survivor) highly self aware..I see through it all and just call it bullshit in my heart and protect myself from his attempts to write the script.. And yes too , we can all fall into behaving these ways as human beings and even many who have never self analysed to the core ..don't even have an ability to see themselves , motives ,actions ,thoughts ,feelings ect.. and that for me seems scary.. Love what you said and know you know alot of stuff.. God bless you🇦🇺❤👍😎

[@ClovisPoint]

a lot are programmed by their parents and dont know any different

[@writerstemple3609]

lovely. very well said. thanks!

[@3goats1coat]

Self-awareness is to realize whenever the other party isn't a leech on you, you're one on them. There's no such thing as ideal reciprocity. We'll all die as we were born, surrounded by people but still alone.

[@1980sPainTrain]

Introspection is key.

[@BoxBoy_99]

I was raised by a complainer and a people pleaser. Drained me of my passions, they split up finally when i was in highschool, i had a strong psyche (too strong) and i used it against myself, becoming a harsh realist, and then throwing up many barriers, even becoming delusional at times, just rolling in my coping mechanisms. I derailed my progress, denied my passions, and detracted from my talents and intution and second guessed myself into a reslient nothingness until i developed borderline personality disorder AND disassociative identity disorder. These came from my badly earned coping mechanisms, and me dealing with trauma thru trying to heal and learn thru major depression and anxiety, whixh was mostly caused by the above, and situational stress. I had become a trauma magnet, and was healing out of this, 2 months transferred into a new college for mental health reasons (i was in a private school surrounded by narcissists and gaslighters) when covid -19 hit funny enough. Shit literally ruined my life. I'll get over it one day, i guess. My only problem is that i feel less mature than i was 5 years ago, and significantly weaker. I'd pray for strength, but i don't exactly know who to pray to anymore. Ive lost my faith too, and drove away the Love of My Life during this ordeal. Being a trauma magnet raised by a complainer and going through a psychotic spiral which I healed out of(but then went right into covid LOL, which is ironically what ended up depriving me of social experiences) left me devoid of friends. I have no cousins that live in any of the states that live near me. I am an only child, and an only grandchild. I now come from a broken family, and am badly in debt for an ultimately lackluster experience that i turned an entire mental crisis situation miraculously to fix, took the most self discipline i've ever mustered, and this coming from a Martial Artist. (Transferring into a new college and breaking into a new mindset, self-therapizing successfully, which trust me, isnt easy when currently undergoing anxiety flare ups and a psychotic break). Just to ultimately fold to a disillusionment with our countries' response to covid-19. And then become subservient to my family, which had become toxically positive (my dad always had been) abusive, and misunderstanding. I even gave away my phyiscal health, i tried quitting smoking cannabis and this backfired badly. I lost everything that was of value to me. Not even joking. Had two backpaxks stolen, one with my laptops, the other with my (dream) and (self help) journals. I didn't even get to keep my own Healing experience - that too was stolen from me. I have Nothing. I have stoicism, and my Cat. Fuck this, I'm going out to go make some friends.

[@user-dh2en3cg4o]

thank you for having the strength and vulnerability to share this. I read it twice, because it reads parallel to my life experience. Although i don't believe the journey to be linear necessarily, we do need tangible progress and ultimately purpose. I have had a very similar journey to you and am mentally in the same place as you when you wrote this. my career change was from linguistics to psychology. All I want is to transform myself into a person who can help others as much as possible, without people pleasing, dishonesty, crossing boundaries, succumbing to fear or apathy etc- all the survival tactics i learnt to employ as a frightened child in unsafe environments and have been desperately unlearning and trying to understand since I was old enough to realise what was going on. It's not too late, my friend, some of the best moments in your life haven't happened yet :) ''whether you think you can or you can't, either way you are right'' what you've achieved so far is truly commendable. it would be such a pity for someone who sounds like a bright and caring individual to fall into despair and nihilism.

[@andrewjones8501]

@@user-dh2en3cg4o I relate heavily to both of you and don't even want to sit through the video because I'm in a raw enough place where I'm exhibiting a bunch of these. My folks had complementary traits, taking turns being the negative person always judging situations, or the level of intelligence and appearance of everyone around them, every person on a TV show etc, to insane levels of negativity looking back unless it was a "smart show" or whatever...they exchanged the victim mentality with it usually being dad who was like "great, just great, blah blah blah" but also would say out loud that he's an idiot when he clearly was just emotionally stunted, etc. For me this all manifested in major addiction issues that took decades to really hit high gear but I lived my whole life in stasis and derailment and with zero boundaries or expectations for myself. I rebounded and recovered sort of, but not with sufficient therapy and became a renegade in a supportive community, someone who could uplift people and benefit from it but went downhill and blasted everybody to shreds and is now in a mortified state. Very self aware of histrionic / narcissistic / borderline traits manifesting heavily and troubled by them, I definitely "get a high" by being an asshole but also am starting to cultivate one when I'm genuinely kind to people too. Nothing seems real or authentic in everyone and I'm still seething at the idea that we're all just supposed to "behave" when the magnitude of my negativity underneath is unbearable sometimes. What a party! This does often result in people seeking psychology or social work degrees and genuinely trying to help people. As long as we get sufficient help along the way, that's a valiant path forward, we just have to work extra hard to make sure we don't suck as therapists or whatever it is we end up doing. The amount of excessive "seriousness" and chaos we've put ourselves through and endured can actually get people much more locked into hanging on our every word. It still surprises me when I notice someone is looking at me as an authority figure or someone who has something valid to say, because I'm so used to screwing up and destroying relationships, but also take things so freaking seriously.

[@TheBlackheartGarden]

My mind, is blown.

[@user-mf7ll4nm4n]

Well said!.I have real trouble forgiving the betrayers etc and so for peace of mind I have decided I won't.I just keep away from them.I wish I could forget them and begin a new life where there a no more self absorbed narcissists.I find them incredibly boring.I don't get nasty I just look for the nearest exit.

[@ren_lightfoot]

I know someone who is at least 4 of these wrapped in one. Complainer, Drama Magnet, Time Vampire, The Victim. Once I stopped spending so much time around them, my life started accelerating. It's crazy how much some people just suck you in with their issues.

[@1KellyCarlson]

This made me realize that I have been a time vampire. By bothering my coworkers with questions and constantly asking them to lunch, it has drained their schedule that would otherwise have been more productive. Thank you

[@stoicbond]

Kelly, recognizing our own patterns is often the first and most crucial step toward personal growth. It's commendable that you've identified this and are open to change. Remember, growth is a journey, and self-awareness is the compass. How do you plan to channel this realization into positive interactions with your coworkers moving forward? Your journey of self-improvement is inspiring. Thank you for sharing! 😊

[@usaloveme]

I would love to have lunch with you. 😊

[@simon_does]

@@usaloveme 😍😍

[@user-my5zn6uv3o]

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[@rnbsteenstar]

Perhaps that's one of the ways that one of my boyfriends (yes, the ENM/Poly life) used to feel taken for granted, when all I've wanted is to spend more time with him because I love him and his vibe. 🥵 He's also extremely hot.

[@STOICVISIONARIES]

1. When you need some personal space, politely communicate your boundaries to others. 2. Use headphones or signal your intent to work or focus to minimize interruptions. 3. Choose quiet or secluded areas when seeking solitude in a public space. 4. Set clear expectations with friends and family about your need for alone time. 5. Practice self-care to recharge and maintain your mental well-being, even when avoiding social interactions.

[@theorize999]

nice addendum

[@l0lan00b3]

What do I do when I'm at the point of needing 20 of 24 hours of personal space a day? Help I'm married.

[@angelavore6705]

​@@l0lan00b3😂 I hope ur joking

[@mgntstr]

You set aside time for an extended camping trip, a week, without food, together with your wife. All the persona layers will slough off like rotten produce. Return reborn, together.@@l0lan00b3

[@user-my5zn6uv3o]

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[@RagingPoo]

One of my biggest challenges in life is trying not to be the complainer. I almost always take the big things in life in stride, knowing that they are inevitable and unavoidable. Examples would be losing a family member or a beloved pet. The things that frustrate me the most and I often complain about are the little things, the easily avoidable things. Examples like traffic, the poor attitudes of others, or an unlikely occurrence that impacts me negatively. I am self aware enough to know that I am the complainer, even before watching this video, but I often feel powerless to stop myself from being angered by trivial things.

[@martinr2040]

solid self reflection there. Out of curiosity, is that why you chose your username?

[@RagingPoo]

@martinr2040 I came up with this name when I was like 14 years old and it just kinda stuck around

[@SaveUSA1000]

My recommendation dig deeper and find out what's really bothering you

[@RichardSmith-cj2hj]

Ragingpoo... its like you read my mind & wrote it all down perfectly, fooking amazing... I try to be positive & do things that only make happy... Its bloody hard at times... but I do try & I'm a hell of alot happier than I was in my 20s & 30s.. As you said, th bigger problems you can deal with... but th smaller problems I can real freak out & go ballistic... I 4rt it was only me ths happened to.... All th best Ragingpoo, chin up.....

[@marcusjuhasz3501]

@@RagingPoo Stuck around like a bad smell that name did :'D

[@chubbieminami3274]

#3 I had a Naysayer dad. More than 10% of the population are Naysayers so be careful. If someone you talk to annoys you for no reason, it might be because they keep arguing what you say on everything by saying no. I saved my friend's marriage because her husband turned out to be a naysayer. It took us 6 hours to prove it and he finally noticed that he really did say no to everything. He said at the end, "It was better than marriage counseling."

[@user-dh2en3cg4o]

that's brilliant. i'm so glad your friends afforded you the opportunity to constructively intervene and it worked! most people wouldn't be open to it

[@chubbieminami3274]

Thanks! Naysayers are naysayers mostly to their family members. My friend was suffering from all the daily arguments and I was irritated by her husband in just 2 hours of being with him. It took us until 5 a.m. in the morning to prove this. They are still married and I thought this guy probably did the same to his first wife. Like my father, it is difficult to make these naysayers admit that they constantly say no because they will argue everything. However, you work around them by changing the way you ask for things. "Dad, I really really wanted to go to this lecture but I decided not to... " And he would say "Why are you not going?" and the conversation went well. Before knowing this, my question was "Dad, I want to go to this lecture and I need XX dollars..." and it usually turned into an argument and I would get angry and say "Okay, I AM NOT GOING" And he would say, " You can go." @@user-dh2en3cg4o

[@Jim-yk9zw]

​@@chubbieminami3274Growing up my parents were naysayers. It really crushes creativity and a willingness to take valuable risks. It's something I have to be certain not to project onto my own children.

[@spika5872]

before I read further, where do you get that 10% value? By more than 10%, it could be up to 100%. Am I a naysayer by asking this question? I am not trying to be a pain in the butt but I was taught that when mentioning a specific number, one has the responsibility to explain, especially in a world today highly relies on data, engineering, and science. Anyway, my mom and my brothers are all naysayers. I have been doing what I was told and gave no thought to avoid being annoyed or punished for not following orders. However, when thing is F-ed up, I would be responsible. So I get punished if I do what they say or I will get punished if I don't do what they say. This is why I avoid them now as an adult. I only see my parents on average a few days every 2 to 3 years and my brothers are even less. I have no friend nor family of my own so I live a life of peace. No doubt it is lonely but I am not angry anymore. I personally believe that humans are not made to be social animals.

[@chubbieminami3274]

it was in Anthony Robbins book I bought years ago but I don't know which book. It is up to you to find out if the percentage is correct or not.

[@endimurati]

I’m the toxic positivist. I never truly reflected on it till now. It’s a defence mechanism to ignore emotions. Thank you for waking me up. It’s disappointing that it took a video in 2023 to do so, but I’m grateful nonetheless. I’m now working on this toxic trait in order to dissolve it.

[@maximumtotemac]

Me too.

[@user-my5zn6uv3o]

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[@93Jubilee]

I may be, too, foolishly thinking I'm making people "feel better" -- still meditating about that.@@maximumtotemac

[@pauljimerson8218]

Only way to fix it and change is to realize it's their you have done the hard part already self reflection good luck on your journey

[@vali4034]

I was like that, too - my grandmother used to call me “an optimist”, which was the sweetest way to alert me to my head being in the clouds & me being out of touch. Now that I started to “deal” I experience a little depression but it’s not consumed me. Wish you the best.

[@BorBrayn-xb3el]

What intrigues me is that your own boss that has better position and better status, but yet he is envious of your success and jealous of those little things that makes you special ! 😅. I ve been always facing those type of people but I ve made of their attitudes keys for success 😊

[@clumsyninja2023]

I'll contribute: If someone in your life is constantly complaining/gossiping about people in their lives to you, ask yourself "what is this person saying about me to everyone else?" I'm a little too good at the mental distancing trick even before I had ever heard it called that. 😂

[@stoicbond]

Such a poignant observation! It's always a good reminder to be cautious of those who consistently speak ill of others. Your point about mental distancing is intriguing. How do you personally implement this "trick" in your daily life, and have you found it helpful in specific situations?

[@michaelblacktree]

By the same token, if someone is confiding a lot of 'secrets' in you, they're probably doing the same with other people. So the 'secrets' aren't really secret.

[@GeorgeWilliamPeters]

First time I ever heard someone directing an example of the "toxic positivist". So true. These toxic people offer no real help however leave you feeling worst for not taking their advise. When you disagree with them they make you look like the negative one. No win, no solve and no solution.🎭

[@stoicbond]

@GeorgeWilliamPeters Thanks for tuning in and sharing your thoughts! I'm glad the "toxic positivist" resonated with you. It's indeed a subtle form of toxicity that many don't immediately recognize. Have you ever faced such individuals in your personal life? Would love to hear more about how you managed to deal with them. 👍🏼

[@philongvu3992]

Toxic posivist always advice me in the traumatic time like just travelling and expierience (in the physical and shallow sense) can sold every problem, and the problem about my pain is I'm to serious about it, just sharing it and make laughing from it then everything will be fine.

[@GeorgeWilliamPeters]

I face individuals like this all the time however after seeing this video I can now recognize them for what they really are.@@stoicbond

[@chad9017]

Exactly no solutions only stand up and say Hooray for maybe a second of happiness followed by ... Nothing.

[@chad9017]

Yeah, cheerleaders or the stereotype of them to be fair to cheerleaders. They do have charisma in either case usually. And most people go along with it. Which makes you sometimes stop and say "have we gotten this cynical?" Or maybe Im off topic Interesting lecture though.

[@billbuyers8683]

problem is that we do not often have a choice with whom we spend our time with. yes, we can use this to evaluate people, but we must learn how to deal with all types of people

[@NightMystique13]

Not if they are abusive or manipulative. Family can be the worst for this, playing on our emotions. Going no contact with narcissistic people( who can never be wrong) has helped my mental health.

[@rottingpotatoes2483]

We have to deal with all types of people, but we don’t need to be their friends.

[@Music5362]

Just realising the traits of other people and our own, is itself quite empowering. I used to have this boss who made me feel that his anger at a problem was somehow my fault, my attitude or whatever. Once I realised the drama was all him, I was able to not be so stressed. It's like I put his issues in a box and was isolated from them

[@denisedenise9530]

I learned a lot by listening to this. I had a difficult childhood and do not know how to protect myself from draining people. Mostly because i don’t recognize what respect is. This has cleared my vision and helped me see how to socialize., I can see how to behave to myself and others . This gives me patience with others who also have many things to un learn. I do not have to fix others problems but can listen and walk away.

[@Rich_P_Anya]

I wouldn't rely on this channel too much. The information that is being interpreted is helpful but the narrator doesn't realize how poorly he is sharing the information.

[@olegal]

​@@Rich_P_AnyaSay what??

[@trishgriffin4899]

@@Rich_P_Anya I have been studying stoicism for decades and this person frames it very well!

[@bookofthewarsofthelord9273]

Just be direct with people and the people who fit the descriptions in this video will leave you alone because they can move on to others who put up with their behavior. I dont have experiences with people like this in my life anymore... when people work with me they learn not to complain because i suggest that they quit and get a new job so they go and find another person who also likes to complain and they feed eachother. Im left standing in peace. Just tell the truth or block phone numbers and friends on facebook.

[@bibekjung7404]

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[@darksideofthemoonhealing]

I love that these videos help us with the behaviors of others BUT more importantly how they can help us see these behaviors in ourselves!!! I didn't realize my positivity could be toxic. I always joke and say my brain is just overly optimistic. Lol. I'll def be working on this now!! ❤❤ Much love to us all ✨️

[@ismokesthemeats2846]

Stoicism was something that I found as a young and angry teenager. I had zero control over myself. And when the greatest and only man that I had in my life, my grandfather, passed away, it broke me. I was weak. Powerless to myself. Imprisoned, even. I’m not perfect, and I’ll never be, but stoicism is a beautiful thing.

[@stoicbond]

Hey @ismokesthemeats2846, thank you for sharing your experience with stoicism on the video! It's amazing how this philosophy can have such a profound impact on our lives, especially during difficult times. I'm sorry to hear about your grandfather's passing, but it's inspiring to see how you've found strength and growth through stoicism. 🙏

[@educationalramblings6826]

A quote to help those struggling against a time vampire. "I'm not saying no to you, I am saying yes to me" Also.... I maybe a Toxic Optimist. I think I listen pretty well and allow people to be human while feeling negative emotions, but this video will definitely have me paying attention to that issue

[@93Jubilee]

I just made a comment above, intended to be helpful, then asked myself that same question. How does one help others without this feeling?

[@zoolkhan]

try that in a corporate setting when the vampire is your boss - who is literally fragmenting your productive day with useless meetings....

[@jesskakesllchorton4940]

As I get older, I have been weeding out these types of people from my life. The ones I can’t (close relatives), I set boundaries with. Doing this improved my focus, health, mental health and career path. When I was younger, I use to play some of those parts, the complainer, the worlds against me, the its there fault not mind. I realized that I was the common denominator for my life’s woes, so I slowly changed my behavior over time and I am more calm, successful, mentally and physically healthy. I will never let anyone derail my progress. Love this channel❤, thank you.

[@stoicbond]

Your journey of self-awareness and transformation is truly inspiring, Jess. Recognizing our patterns and taking responsibility is a brave and empowering step. Setting boundaries is equally essential, especially with those close to us. I'm elated to hear about the positive shifts in your life. How do you think Stoic teachings played a role in this transformation? And do you have any advice for others on a similar path? Thank you for sharing your story and for the love! ❤️

[@-heathen-3622]

we all suffer these people, and with honest self-reflection, you can find in yourself too, be aware of yourself and choose to be better.

[@nathananderson8720]

This is one of the channels that gave me the courage to start my KZbin channel 8 months ago about self development. Now I have 784 subs and > 300 hours of watch time. I know it’s not comparable with others but I’m still proud I started because I’ve been learning so many lessons that I could haven’t learned without getting started in the 1st place.

[@7launique]

I have listened to this 4 times already and I am able to identify myself as well as others I commune with. I appreciate the wisdom in knowing how to address each type of person respectfully with being rude.

[@stoicbond]

@7launique Wow, listening 4 times - that's dedication! I'm thrilled to hear that the content resonated with you deeply. Being able to interact respectfully with various individuals is an art, and it seems you've grasped it beautifully. Are there other aspects of Stoicism or interpersonal relationships you'd like to explore further? Your engagement and insights are cherished here. Thank you for being a part of our community! 😊🍂🌼

[@Reynbrecht]

These video's are changing my life. The way i think about myself and my surroundings. Being at home with severe back issues and pain, it's easy to get depressed, start drinking and feel useless. Now by discovering stoicism i might actually change my life for the better...

[@tamsin6455]

Hope you're receiving some kind of support..take care of yourself 🙏🏼

[@Valleyboi916]

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@user-my5zn6uv3o]

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[@gameygoat]

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[@lauramanuel7619]

❤ I wish you the best of luck in that. It’s alright to be upset about being in pain, but there may be proactive steps you can take to reduce it such as (shudder) yoga or physical therapy or strengthening exercises. All dependent on the reason for your pain of course and check with a doctor. I truly hope you find a way to move past the pain and don’t let it control your life.

[@rawirikingi3321]

I'm a social time vampire and I didn't even realize it until I saw this. I want to hang out with my friends because I enjoy their time and company but I never thought about the fact that it derails their routine and causes them to lose focus. Thank you for the reality check and opportunity to reflect

[@stoicbond]

Hey @rawirikingi3321, thank you for watching the video and taking the time to comment! I'm glad it resonated with you and helped you reflect on your own behavior. It takes a lot of self-awareness to recognize our own tendencies, so kudos to you for that! 😊 I'm curious, have you noticed any changes in your relationships since becoming aware of your social time vampire tendencies? Have you found ways to balance spending time with friends while also respecting their routines and focus? 🤔 Keep up the self-reflection and growth, it's a never-ending journey but it's worth it.

[@kellykane7586]

Yes! Takes a lot to look inward when watching these types of videos instead of identifying others as the culprits Keep it up cuz when you are right with yourself nobody can touch you

[@rawirikingi3321]

@@stoicbond Ever since becoming aware of my behaviour, my relationships have felt more "whole" as a lack of wording to describe it. I've pulled back on spending soo much time with them and in doing so has made our time together more entertaining. We have more to talk about and it seems that even in the short term we have grown a little bit different in a good way. I've had more time to improve myself and as well as given them the time and space they need. It's given me more clarity into what relationships really mean. They aren't people I love just because I spend all my time with them, they are people I love spending my time with.

[@forlornfool221]

Having to avoid myself sometimes is number one! This wisdom is paramount in my Stoicism!

[@lindabrink4050]

I’m a practicing Mahayana Buddhist and I’m watching your videos with interest. I just wanted to mention something that I learned from you tonight, and that is what you taught regarding “Time Vampires “. Thank you deeply for the reminder to be extra selective about who I give my time to. Compassion clouds my judgement occasionally, and you have helped me rein in my regard for myself first. Thank you.

[@woodway73]

Thanks for sharing. Great observation

[@joanndombrow4245]

I have experienced that emotional vampires are just as selfish as time vampires

[@benitolazio8193]

Aka a cultural tourist.

[@CZARNicholas-ht9dq]

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[@imstealthy7882]

​@@CZARNicholas-ht9dq Don't tell someone to practice a different religion/belief just because you think otherwise. There are plenty of terrible people that practice christianity and still carry out heaneous acts of sin. It's not what religion you practice. Stop trying to shove your beliefs down other people's throats just because they have a different belief system. Maybe you'll grow up someday, hopefully. You're being a clown though, honestly.

[@chrisgutteridge]

I work in a IT department and find there's far more people who say no than say yes. People say no to projects they have no skin in the game for. I think there's a few reasons for this but the key ones are that saying "it'll fail because XYZ" makes you sound like you are contributing without having to take any risk. Which leads to the main reason; people in corporate environments often beleive they will be punished for failure more than they will be rewarded for sucess. Few people look bad if they try to block a novel idea that goes on to do well, but they DO look bad if they allow an idea which goes poorly. We should fix that feedback system.

[@stoicbond]

Hey @chrisgutteridge, thank you for subscribing and sharing such a thoughtful perspective from your IT department experience! 🙌 It's true, the fear of failure and the skewed reward-punishment dynamics in many corporate environments can stifle innovation and positive engagement. Your observation about the feedback system is spot on and could indeed be a catalyst for fostering a more supportive and risk-tolerant culture. I’m curious, how do you think Stoic principles could be applied to address this issue and encourage a more open and constructive approach towards novel ideas and projects in the workplace? 🤔 Your insights could stir a very meaningful discussion among our community, especially those in similar professional settings. Thanks again for your engagement and looking forward to your thoughts! 💬

[@chrisgutteridge]

@@stoicbond I've been giving this some thought and I think people have trouble seeing the costs of the status quo. Keeping things as they are or reverting to some previous time when things were "better" is a strong instinct which I think people mistake for wisdom. Any time people tell me something is "common sense", I tell themt that common sense is what tells you the world is flat. But a big part is that people rarely get blamed for failing to change the status quo (unless they promised to do so). I makes me think of this classic quote. “Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded - here and there, now and then - are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as "bad luck.” ― Robert Heinlein

[@charsher11]

A total description of someone close to me. I took it upon myself to distance myself from the negative impact it had on my peace of mind, body, and soul. I feel much calmer and at peace now. For once in my life, I'm putting myself first. It's something I had to learn how to do. Once I made the decision to say NO! The family bond was broken. I was told I was no longer of any use. Best thing that could have happened to me. I now feel free for the first time in my life.

[@stoicbond]

Hey @charsher11, thank you for sharing your experience with us! It's amazing to hear that the video helped you recognize and distance yourself from negative influences in your life. It takes a lot of courage to put yourself first and say no to toxic relationships. 🙌 I'm glad to hear that you feel calmer and at peace now. It's important to prioritize our own well-being and sometimes that means letting go of people who don't have our best interests at heart.

[@goldfinder4498]

I'm an artist, and when someone criticizes my painting I hand them my brush and tell them, "Show me what you mean." If they are foolish enough to try, then it's my turn to shame them.

[@youknowbetter3042]

Well said my Guy👍

[@RandomStuff-vn9bm]

My sister is an artist, and she ask me to find problems in her art. I dont know how to draw, but im able to point out the problems in her painting, and then we can figure out how to make it better. I might not be a painter or good at drawing, but im a very good observer.sometimes It is good to hear advice from outside. Ego can be an issue while trying to get better.

[@curtiskaltenbach1629]

I love it can't wait to try that one!

[@joshuabaru2908]

As freely as one is able to critic another, in that freedom they too shall be freely criticized. All things have their own consequences.

[@suefleming]

VERY SMART.... VERY TACTFUL....😂❤👍🏿

[@franciscogerardohernandezr4788]

After completing my Ph. D., the time has come for me to understand those who work around me and my role as an academic if I want to achieve success in my endeavours. This gem has arrived at the right time, for now, I am receptive and more insightful of its message. May everyone who reads this reach the wisdom they seek.

[@93Jubilee]

Oh my, I went through that, too, still going through, assessment and re-assessment. Graduate school can be a very interesting time, educational in many ways.

[@93Jubilee]

When my oldest siter was taking a philosophy course in colllege I loved to open up her textbook and read about hte stoics! I was about twelve and was enormously influenced even then.But your talk has rejuvenated my old beliefs and made me want oo adjust my life accordingly. Thank you! I'll be returning here.

[@VolcanicLioness]

I've definitely played the role of the complainer/victim at various different points of my life. How I got myself out of these toxic roles was by allowing myself to have significant time slots alone to self reflect and fix my life. Yes I complain still and play victim still but not nearly as much. I can definitely improve more but I've for sure improved. It's a journey. People with these traits need healing. I think long durations of alone time is key

[@invisibilianone6288]

Dad said it this way, Seek and allign yourself with those who go about their lives, with the true concern for others.

[@monicawest4000]

I love this! Your dad was a very smart man! This is great advice! It's super simple & extremely powerful. Thank you for sharing! 😊 😊

[@invisibilianone6288]

@@monicawest4000 he had his moments☀ He had 14 moments, that may, or may not be good...at times,,,,hehehe

[@invisibilianone6288]

@@monicawest4000 I believe he read that quote, or similar wording in Gracians Manual. It is also referred to in Philippians 2; 3-4 Gracian also studied biblical teachings.

[@user-my5zn6uv3o]

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[@loloholmes2793]

As opposed to those who go about in pity for themselves.

[@ewancorral1959]

Thank you 😅for your kindness and teaching. I have seen myself in many of the examples of persons to avoid in life which led me to think maybe that was why I was being avoided by some people. Before I judge others I should reflect on my own personal position and determine to grow and be more aware of my own behaviour. I am willing. Ewan

[@ranmad415]

I left a bad work situation early this year. Your video described several staff members whose behavior created a dysfunctional workplace. I worked hard to convince myself to stay. I told myself that they valued me, that things were not as bad as they seemed and that these people meant well. Which, just was not true. Things were rotten there from the start and I chose to ignore it. So, when I finally realized that this work was making me extremely unhappy, and turning me into a complainer, I quit. It is amazing how much lighter and more content I am away from that environment. I feel stronger and wiser and more alive. Thank you for the video, especially for providing strategies and responses. It is not easy dealing with these difficult types of people and it is good advice.

[@somalinetflix3533]

Me too I quit my job early of this month it was horible job some times i cant even sleep at nights

[@FrozzenK]

I've recently lost some "friends" due to a drama magnet. This person would always find conflict within my social circle and at some point the rest of the people in the circle started to actively be mean to this person. I stepped in because they were frankly behaving pretty badly, but all this accomplished was make it so I became their new target for trying to defend the magnet. It also made me realize that none of those people were good people to begin with, so in the end it was a good thing because I have now distanced myself from them.

[@drainbramage3555]

Went through the exact same thing recently too, it gets better man and it's great to remember the lesson

[@legosi2736]

The drama magnet is a type I'm all to familiar with 😔, I'm learning to deal with those thing's still including myself. To everyone out there, be safe and take care of yourself amd most importantly love yourself and to those who you care for most and respect you back ❤ 🌎

[@stoicbond]

@legosi2736 Recognizing certain traits in ourselves and actively working on them is a commendable step towards personal growth. Your self-awareness and commitment to change are both inspiring and humbling. The journey of self-improvement is continuous, but every step forward counts. Do you have any specific Stoic teachings or practices that have been particularly helpful in this journey? Sending you encouragement and gratitude for sharing your thoughts. Take care and continue to spread positivity! 🌟

[@smallmeadow1]

Growing old has made me more protective of my time and happiness. I feel validated by this video, and I want to rewatch it to better ponder some points such as maintaining my own narrative. I like to think that this video would have made a difference in my earlier years, but I'm not sure. Maybe I was in my victim stage dealing with a difficult childhood. I wasn't sure what this video was about before watching it, but it resonated.

[@morganlake41632]

Thank you for the validation and confirmation. I don't like social activities - I want to write, compose, make my wife laugh. Not listen to drunk men outdo each other with big lies.

[@wisdomsquotes_official]

Kudos to the creator for articulating the detrimental effects of surrounding ourselves with complainers, drama magnets, and other toxic personalities through a Stoic lens.

[@bendyloco]

Thank you for making this excellent video! One negative thing I struggle with is my tendency to seek ways of numbing myself spiritually, physically and mentally to life’s trauma. I try to remind myself in the moment to feel, deal and heal in every way possible and in so doing I hope to be a better version of myself, for myself and for the people near me.

[@NegiTaiMetal011]

I've been learning a lot of stoic philosophies lately so that I can be better and stick true to my dreams, goals, artistry and visions. It's sadly something not many would know as it's not taught in schools. In a world seem to be overtaken by many sorts of negativity, noise, showoffs, attention-seeking, celebrity worship, and several others that just drains anyone of their energy, time, good vibes, essence, well-being, passions, creativity as well as intellect, these would certainly be of immense help, and I'd like to share these to fellow friends and workers so they can understand, realize and develop.

[@XScorpionX321]

Rather than avoiding the ‘types of people’, I’ll try to be aware of these traits in myself and not become one or more of those types who people seek to avoid..

[@stoicbond]

That's a profound perspective and self-awareness, truly embodying the Stoic principle of self-reflection! Do you have any practices or routines that help you stay vigilant about these traits within yourself? 👁️🤔

[@IP2u]

People in these comments are so self-reflective! Most people would point the finger elsewhere but instead it makes you more reflective of attributes you possess which does not serve others or yourselves! And also the awareness when others are introducing these attributes into your lives, you accept it with wisdom not blame. I’m in awe!

[@stoicbond]

Hey @IP2u! 🙌 Thank you for watching the video and leaving such a thoughtful comment. It's always great to see viewers like you who are open to self-reflection and willing to learn from it. 🤓 I completely agree with you that stoicism teaches us to take responsibility for our own actions and not point fingers at others. It's a powerful mindset to have and can lead to a more fulfilling life. 💪 Have you personally encountered any of these types of people in your life? How did you handle the situation using stoic principles? 🤔 Keep up the great work on your own self-reflection journey! 🚀 Let's continue to spread the wisdom

[@SwSerinityCoco4]

I found myself early on in the video saying to myself, "oh, I have done that before, but have been working on more productive means to further my life's ambitions." Thinking of how I can continue to move away from these unhealthy habits I formed aging the way. Thank you as I found this video to be very informative both about myself as well as others. Recently I have found a need to edit some people from my life either permanently or just spendinf less time with them.

[@stoicbond]

@SwSerinityCoco4 Serinity, your self-awareness and determination to grow are truly commendable. It's brave to not only recognize but also actively address habits that may not align with our personal growth. Making decisions about the people we surround ourselves with can be challenging. Do you have any specific Stoic teachings that you lean on during these times of change and reflection? Your journey sounds inspiring, and I'd be eager to hear more about it. Cheers to continuous growth! 🌱

[@toxicmasculinity6554]

EVERYONE has some of these traits. It's what's called being human.

[@onlyme9974]

We encounter these type of people on the daily (ourselves included in 1 way or another). That's what learning Stoic etiquette is all about in my opinion as we can all be that person. Sometimes it's better to be cruel to be kind and just say "no, sorry but I have other things to do".. Great vid, alot of great things to think about and reflect on to oneself 👌

[@stoicbond]

Absolutely, self-awareness is a crucial aspect of Stoicism, and as today's video emphasized, it's enlightening to recognize these roles both in others and within ourselves. Your perspective on the importance of setting boundaries is insightful. Building on that, how do you balance being firm with kindness while practicing Stoic values? And have you found any Stoic teachings particularly helpful in doing so? Thanks for engaging with the content and sharing your thoughts! 💡

[@missqquez2370]

True facts❣️

[@onlyme9974]

@@stoicbond if I could explain it I would :). Boundaries are boundaries and the ppl that really know you should be understanding of them. I don't really do well with others... it's not that I don't like ppl,, I just don't understand 90 odd % of them. I always thought it was my fault but it's not. It's just who I am and I enjoy my own time and have very little time for small talk. I have only been introduced to the actual word/meaning of stoicism about 2 years ago but only started to really apply it this year as I've learnt a little more about it and it's history. It's was a fascinating concept when I 1st heard the word stoicism or the saying "be stoic about it"... I've only tried to really take it seriously this last few months so I'm still a baby on the milk if you will 😄 ✌️💚

[@onlyme9974]

@@missqquez2370 not sure about facts :),, but we're all learning every day and someone else would have a very different perspective on what I said or say but to be honest it's not really about them. It's about ourselves and how we act or react about it. ✌️💚

[@user-my5zn6uv3o]

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[@NerdInked]

My best friend is the complainer; however, I channel his negative energy and make the best out of it. I always love to prove him wrong and it makes me better at what I do. It gives me the motivation to reach my goals and it’s been working. His complaining is what drives me to do better.

[@ballarddionna]

I've been almost all of these people. Now that i realize that, I'm ready to gain control of myself and change my thinking

[@stoicbond]

Hey @ballarddionna, that's amazing to hear! It takes a lot of self-awareness and courage to recognize and admit when we may have fallen into certain patterns of thinking. I'm glad the video helped you gain control and inspired you to make a change. 🙌

[@ballarddionna]

@@stoicbond Thank you for taking the time to respond with your kind words ❤️

[@jorgedelgado5881]

I've lost friends being blunt with them. I've regretted it afterwards. But, as time passed I realized it was the best thing.

[@reachlove6779]

I’ve lost friends whom I’ve known since the beginning of time. The only reason why we were friends is because I’m a good listener and as long as I listen to and nurture their Emotions and took into consideration what they are Feeling. Then they considered me a lifelong friend and we were supposed to grow old together and always be friends. Until my higher self said wait a minute what about Me ? Do my Emotions and Feelings matter? Wtf ! I gave up on playing the friend game years long ago. Forget about it 🌺😼🌺 The older we get the less we find ourselves even in consideration for friendship ! Speaking for myself. Just can’t deal with the personality disorder anymore and I’m not the spirit babysitter type. Sadly some of us a spend our entire life trying to fix mental spiritual disorders. Like… I have my entire life. Helping others. Wasted my own life.

[@MrMopar413]

A lot of these traits can be found also in fraternal organizations, do good organizations - etc , that depend on people giving their free time to achieve their mission statement to maintain their 501-3C tax exempt status that the core group gets a paid salary but everyone else is a none paid volunteer and your reward or compensation is a feel good moment. On top of all that these types of organizations generally abound with people with the traits described in this video. I’ve myself been involved in these types of organizations over the years but I’ve cut them all out. They drain your time , money and energy. Then if you don’t live up to the expectations of the core control group they will immediately start a guilt trip campaign on you. They all look good from the outside but once in , it’s a totally different story. Be on guard about these organizations. I can list names but I will not for obvious reasons.

[@eyedunno8462]

Okay

[@bookofthewarsofthelord9273]

Yeah the 501c3 thing is borderline scamish. The executives of the orgs can set their salary and make a lot of money but as long as the org itself maintsins a 0 balance its good to go.

[@urbanexplorersofchicago9465]

So glad someone said it! Most of those organizations are led by toxic grandiose and covert narcissist.

[@naadjafloyd2522]

I am enjoying these videos as they are making me realize the importance of my life without concern about what others think about what I am doing unless it is truly supportive. I also realize what gifts I have been given and to use them as they should be used.

[@stoicbond]

@naadjafloyd2522 Naadja, your words reflect a deep sense of self-awareness and gratitude. Recognizing one's value and potential, and focusing on nurturing our gifts, is a beautiful Stoic sentiment. How do you plan on harnessing these gifts and incorporating Stoic principles to continue your personal growth? Your journey and insights can inspire many in the community. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for engaging with the content! 🌌

[@Ruublossoms]

Thank you so much for the video😊

[@Luckystoic]

I am now 80 years old and when I look over my life I realize that my faith in God and adherence to my deep rooted Christian principles, never wavering from my core beliefs, has ensured my well being all along the way.

[@StoicKing101]

There will always be people like that around us, but we will not realize that we are also among those people you are trying to avoid

[@stoicbond]

Hey @StoicKing, thanks for watching the video and sharing your thoughts! It's true, there will always be people like that around us, but do you think there's a way for us to avoid becoming one of them ourselves? 🤔 I'd love to hear your perspective on this. Keep the conversation going! 💬

[@MassMultiplayer]

half way in and already explained the full list of narcisism attack LOL unreal. insanely good content this is huge subed commented liked

[@chandanmahato825]

I never heard this before!! How to handle with toxic people!! I will it in my mind! Thankyou for sharing!! ❤

[@t.b.cont.]

It’s nice to watch these videos sometimes and realize my own bad habits, that I might also be someone worth avoiding to others for the reasons listed in the video

[@stoicbond]

Hey @Ara_Era, glad to hear that my video helped you recognize some of your own bad habits! Stoicism is all about self-awareness and improvement, so it's great that you're taking the time to reflect on your actions. 🤔 Which of the 7 types of people do you think you might fall under? Are there any specific habits you want to work on? Let's continue this conversation and see how we can apply stoic principles to our daily lives. 💪 Thanks for engaging with the video, and I look forward to hearing more from you. 😊

[@modmiss5081]

A method that works for me: when someone becomes defensive about their behavior, I let them know that I’m not asking them to stop embarrassing themselves but I’m refusing them audience, they suddenly have more control enough to not lose our association.

[@heyrey818]

Thank you. I identified some traits in myself (time vampire, but a different variety - one who sends my close friends too many messages). I also recognized that my mother is a toxic positivist (but only in advice giving, otherwise she's a drama magnet). Further, I recognized that one of my best friends is a naysayer and has been affecting my thinking negatively for 15 years. Example: I recently connected with a romantic prospect, and my friend immediately said that she knows it won't work, he's a player and must have cheated on his ex (all because he's a part time successful fashion model). At first I accepted her words and pulled away from him, but he had a strong reaction to that and asked me why I wasn't giving us a chance to explore this. Then I woke up. I realized that she's been single for 4 years (myself for 1.5), and probably feels distraught at the thought of me finding happiness while she feels left behind. I've given up on men in the past when I let her convince me they must be terrible people. Never again.

[@stoicbond]

Hey @heyrey818, thank you for watching the video and sharing your experience! It's great that you were able to identify some traits in yourself and others that align with the types of people stoicism warns us about. It takes a lot of self-awareness to recognize these patterns and make positive changes. 🙌 I'm glad you were able to see through your friend's negative thinking and give yourself a chance to explore a potential romantic connection.

[@romeramsey1567]

This helped me a lot today! I been encountered with this topic throughout the whole month of September but I can honestly say, I’ve been navigating just as this video was talking about. It’s scarily good how this video affirmed my behavior but in the same time taught me about what i was doing and even adding new principles. I can say I’m on the right track and it feels GREAT!

[@martinwakefield8138]

I am so grateful that he mentioned the toxic positivists. They are just as dangerous as the rest, but they always seem to get a pass

[@stoicbond]

Thank you for pointing that out, Martin! Toxic positivity can indeed be subtly harmful in its own way. It's crucial to recognize and address it. How do you think we can promote a more balanced and authentic approach to positivity in our interactions? 🤔

[@Itz_KLONOPIN]

Ive developed a transparent mindset over the years through much much time and practice to the point where words and actions from other people or external sources just pass right through me just like smoke blown through a screen... theres absolutely nothing anyone can do or say (excluding threatening and valid physical interaction) that can alter my mood or attitude or the thoughts i choose to hold and the way i see things. Its become so easy and serene going about my daily life withput effort at this point in my journey. HOWEVER!! What i am struggling with is when i am dealing with an extremely difficult person i would otherwise normally just stay away from them and avoid interaction if im able to BUT I either want/need something from them, especiallly when its something non work-related. Its easy when you dont need or want anything from a negative or icky nasty person cuz you can just stay away. But its a while different story when u do

[@Zuiken2160]

It is a strange feeling watching this video and realizing that I use many of these techniques already intuitively. I always felt strange about myself acting like this because it differs from nearly everyone around me up to the point that I started questioning my character. Why I was distancing myself from certain friends and family members and why I was acting a certain way in conversations with certain people and now I realize they are acting like certain types described in this video and I am acting as the video suggests. I always thought of myself as a stoic as I was younger but then deviated from it because I found a lack of emotional resilience in myself which made me in my eyes unworthy of this - for a lack of a better word - "Title"

[@donnafiori2565]

Just today i was working with my son and told him how i realize that i have unnecessary snarky or negative thoughts about various people and situations, even if i don't say them out loud... though sometimes i do... And how I'm trying to be more conscientious of that. I've already been changing who i choose to spend my time with, but i definitely agree that being self aware and honest with one's self is incredibly important in this endeavor to practice being more stoic. Thanks for the video!

[@whatdaro]

This is a great video, as you went through the different types I could identify people who fit them one by one, but I also was checking myself if I'm one. I did think that perhaps I was paranoid or too self critical when doing that. But it was a relief to hear you also remind us to actually do that at the end. Great video straight to the point in all, no fluff. subbed

[@jannamartens9806]

This is a really good video I used to play some these roles , but I now live a happier life . But I’ve also known a lot of people with these qualities. So it’s really interesting and helpful .

[@stoicbond]

Janna, it's courageous to recognize and admit our past roles and even more commendable to grow beyond them. Building on the message of today's video, which Stoic teaching or principle do you believe guided you most in shedding those roles? 💫

[@jannamartens9806]

@@stoicbond I’m on a self improvement lifestyle when we can admit our mistakes and notice them we can become wiser and stronger . I love stoic principles

[@francessmith3459]

This really spoke to some situations in my life. I feel better knowing that I am on the right path and your advice was extremely helpful.

[@raymondc9513]

When I become infatuated with someone, I've come to realize I become the toxic positivist and manipulator, seeking only to make the person I've focused on feel no sadness whatsoever no matter what. Which is something I've been working on, and will continue to work on throughout my life. I've been oblivious to how I've acted in the past, but as these emotions keep reappearing with a different person, I've been able to stop and reflect before I act sooner and sooner. I've lost many good friendships all because of a selfish imaginary ideal I had of that person, and I aim to prevent myself from self-sabotaging anymore, without forsaking the ability to process my emotions. I hope this video reaches and teaches those who also struggle with self-awareness when it comes to matters of the heart. And in life in general.

[@idunwantmynamehere]

I am glad that you concluded this video with the ultimate thought provocation that is self reflection of our own traits. Not to be tooting my own horn, I didn’t watch this with intent to think of others, though I did and am glad to understand more of why I must reaffirm the ending of relationships with those that have come and gone. I realize that to my longest and best friend, I may be all of these. I’ve tried to cut it out but i think I sound like a toxic positivist at best, a naysayer the most. And it’s all self inflicted. When it comes to listening to their own struggles or thoughts, I can exercise sympathy and empathy accordingly. I’m glad I don’t have to reach deep into stoicism with my current friends..“I won’t be able to enjoy athletics my whole life because my operations and injuries hold me back in fear of worse or reoccurring.” “My job won’t get any better because the equipment will stay the same and the struggles will always reoccur.” The worst perpetrations of these traits is all self inflicted. I am a naysayer at work the most, and dash some toxic positivity on top because although we must confront reality, constant ridicule is tough mentally. I choose to tell myself that there are people struggling with worse equipment for less pay, and I think of when it actually is a good, smooth job. Thanks for making this as thought provoking and inner-reflecting as possible.

[@IosafBennis]

Intriguingly as well needing to keep an eye on when we might unintentionally become any of these personality types in relationships with others, it is helpful to think about how sometimes we can be any of these draining personality types within our own relationship with ourselves! It is human of course not always to have all of these things in balance but always good to remind ourselves of the risk of sliding into any of these personally patterns with others or ourselves. Your noting of need for introspection at the end of this video was perfectly timed 👌🏼

[@ReshThreshingfloor]

This was very affirming to listen to…I’m on the path

[@BalanceMsC_TigressSpirit]

This is profoundly eye opening. So much wisdom through the entire video and the closing statements really got me thinking not just about the people I allow to enter my life but myself and my character! This is amazing and I’m so grateful it was shared with me. ❤

[@rootgrevil]

watching this has been very informative. not just about recognizing these types of people in my own life, but realizing that I have been some of these, myself, at times. I find that looking inward can be perhaps the most challenging aspect of life, but also the most important for yourself and those around you.

[@ashleyfranklin8922]

WOW! SO TRUE! I recognize that I have been everyone of these atleast once and I know how disheartened and sucked into these type of people. This has been one of the most important messages that lends fantastic sound and empowering advice that I will follow . Thank you so much.

[@oliviaginsbourg6541]

I would have loved to learn this at school at a young age. Imagine the discussions possible.

[@paulmccusker4305]

I have a friend who is really negative about everything, complains and doesn't like much. I found myself distancing myself from him due to how hard I was finding his company. I've been using these stoic influences to benefit myself with others around me, I found recently I was able to calm my friend down with his tirade of negativity and we managed a more pleasant time, I felt better about myself on how I combated him and how I conducted myself. This person now realises I am not a push over or willing to accept his negativity, thank you for empowering me to overcome some of my hurdles on how to express my thoughts and feelings.

[@stoicbond]

Hey @paulmccusker4305, that's amazing to hear! It's always a challenge to deal with negative people, but it sounds like you handled it with grace and stoicism. 🙌 I'm glad the video was able to help you in that situation. Do you have any other tips for handling negative people in our lives? 🤔 Keep up the great work on your stoic journey! 💪

[@NelsonStJames]

I think everyone has one, or several of these types in their life, the problem is recognizing their effects on you, and dealing with them properly. This video is a good start to making one aware.

[@stoicbond]

Hey @NelsonStJames, thank you for your insightful comment and for being a part of our community! 😊 You've hit the nail on the head-recognition is the first step towards managing the impact of such individuals on our lives. I’m curious, do you have any personal strategies or Stoic practices that you’ve found helpful in dealing with such types of people effectively? 🤔 Your experience could provide a practical guide for others on a similar path. Thanks again for engaging and sharing your wisdom! 💬

[@yoshi2413]

Philosophies help me find my own faults and issues. We all have our own, maybe not exactly each personally described but certain traits. I’ll never be perfect but I’ll never stop working towards being perfect. It’s a journey which I know there is no exact goal but there is a journey to be had.

[@stoicbond]

@yoshi2413 Thank you for sharing such a profound insight, Yoshi! 🌟 Philosophies like Stoicism indeed serve as mirrors to our souls, helping us navigate our personal journeys. Your commitment to self-growth is admirable. Do you have any particular Stoic teachings or exercises that have been instrumental in your journey? I'm genuinely curious to learn more about your experiences and insights. Here's to the never-ending journey of growth! 🌱

[@yoshi2413]

@@stoicbond I use multiple philosophies to try and lead my life by. But one big part of stoicism for me is the mastering of my own mind, to not let stressful things get to me or to use stress to my advantage. I definitely want to make “my own philosophy” of sorts that I believe life should be led by. Everyones mind is unique and I am trying to find the joy of the journey of life rather than always chase a golden goose.

[@tym5583]

I think I've seen your vids before, but this was the most impactful for sure. Great job!

[@stoicbond]

@tym5583 Thank you for returning to the channel and sharing your feedback, Tym! 🌟 I'm thrilled to hear that this video struck a chord with you. Out of curiosity, what aspect or point from the video resonated with you the most? Always eager to understand our viewers' perspectives more deeply. Keep shining! 😊🌅

[@tym5583]

@@stoicbond honestly the structure and being concise on the points and the dilivery. Also just realizing that my gf was most of these 😅

[@snowkit7761]

Ive been struggling to pull myself back into discipline lately and this at least gave me a moment of centering. It helped to apply these things as concepts to the world at large rather than to types of people. The world seems especially chaotic right now and it constantly feels like I must strike out at everything or risk losing what I value, but often this drains so much energy for self improvement or even the discipline I desire. However, when I focus on discipline or self improvement I find myself eaten by fear that I am going to lose something or that I didnt fight hard enough.

[@stoicbond]

@snowkit7761 Firstly, thank you for sharing your feelings so candidly. It sounds like you're on a journey of introspection and balance. The challenge of maintaining discipline, especially amidst chaos, is something many of us face. Stoicism teaches us to control what's within our power and to accept what's not. It's about maintaining our internal equilibrium regardless of external events. Given these feelings of needing to defend your values, how do you find moments of peace and stillness amidst the chaos? Remember, sometimes the bravest thing we can do is to stand still. Would love to hear more about your journey. Stay strong and centered.

[@Dolphin369]

I’ve been cutting these people from my life in the last 4 years. It’s helpful to have it spelled out like that. How I see it now is that: as I develop each layer of myself, the removal of the people with these traits from my life reflect the lessons I have learned in myself. Starting with the complainer and victim, I was learning that I have full responsibility over the choices in my life. With the toxic positivist, self-validating how I feel at any time, embracing my shadow The time vampire, dealing with the root of my people pleasing tendencies. The drama magnet, cultivating peace and harmony in my life. Etc. These people really are there to reflect something back to us, and to teach us lessons. With every person that I let fall away, I see it as a lesson learnt. The ultimate learning and gift- understanding and reclaiming my self worth

[@user-qk2gc4bq5p]

Extremely insightful. Much needed. Thank you!!!🎉

[@chimchimgirlz]

Yes I’ve been each of these in someone’s life just as much as I can recall those that have been each in my life. Since becoming somewhat of a recluse, I’m more aware of the roles I’ve played. This video felt personal lol. But it’s good to recognize how much I have harmed as others have harmed me. I’m going to look more into stoicism.

[@EmsLionheart]

We are human beings, who are complex and beautiful. Pain is a part of our existence and we shouldn’t be ashamed of our reaction to it, and certainly shouldn’t stifle emotions. That’s how communities get shot up, by people “holding it together”. Love yourself. Accept yourself. And you will do the same for others. 🕊️

[@stoicbond]

Hey @EmsLionheart, thanks for watching the video and sharing your thoughts! 🙏 It's true that we are complex and beautiful beings, and pain is a natural part of our existence. Stoicism doesn't encourage us to stifle our emotions, but rather to acknowledge and accept them without letting them control us. 🧘‍♂️

[@christopherboudreau6328]

This Definitely shined the light on the situation im in greatly.. as well as on myself… Thank you 🙏 going to share this !!!

[@jenniferhill1882]

Ohhh that took a turn, the whole check yourself at the end came out of the blue. Great video.

[@stoicbond]

@jenniferhill1882 Jennifer, glad that twist caught your attention! It's always valuable to reflect upon ourselves and our actions, often when we least expect it. Delighted to hear you enjoyed the video. Always strive to keep the content both insightful and unpredictable. Thank you for your support and for being a part of our community! 🌟

[@denxylboart4403]

Thank you, this is just what I needed! I'm trying to heal from my past, and this video has played a part in my healing process ❤

[@stoicbond]

Hey @denxylboart4403! Thank you for your heartfelt comment. 🌟 I'm truly honored that the video could play a part in your healing journey. Healing is a process, and every step counts. Out of curiosity, which Stoic principle or idea resonated the most with you in this context? Sending you strength and positive vibes on your journey ahead! 💪

[@stubborn_otter]

Thank you for this moment. It was much needed.

[@stoicbond]

Hey @stubborn_otter, glad to hear that the video was helpful for you! 🙌 Have you encountered any of these types of people in your own life? Would love to hear your thoughts on how stoicism has helped you navigate those situations. Keep practicing stoicism and stay strong! 💪

[@Rangerness]

There are times, especially lately, when I get the feeling that outside forces are working against my plans. I don’t trouble anyone else with those thoughts and most people view me as “having it all figured out” but they actually just oblivious to the debacles I find myself in.

[@jaypeighton9548]

Once again, thank you for these videos. I am finding them nourishing and reassuring. I definitely held a mirror up to myself with these seven examples. I am working with moderate depression and severe anxiety issues at the moment. But listening to these videos and continuing to use guidance from a therapist, I am building the toolset to calibrate myself. Thank you.

[@stoicbond]

Hello @jaypeighton9548, first and foremost, I want to commend you for your bravery and openness in sharing your journey. 🌟 It's inspiring to hear that you're finding support both from these videos and professional guidance. Stoicism teaches us resilience and perspective, but it's crucial to have a multifaceted approach to wellness. Do you have a particular Stoic teaching or principle that you've found especially helpful in your current journey? Sending you strength and positivity as you continue to grow and heal! 💪❤️

[@spr0ut1ng3m]

Thank you for this I've began listening to this every morning and before I go to bed it also helps to be self aware I've definitely been guilty and don't want to effect people mentally and emotionally negatively

[@TatianaProphetMusic]

Wow, this is one example of KZbin getting it 100% right in suggesting your channel to me. I studied the classics briefly in undergrad as electives. Always ate them up. It’s hard for me to say exactly what drew me your channel. There were probably about 10 or 20 different things that came one after the other, which made me think - I need to hear more. All of those points are connected to the challenges we face as a civilization. And yet that’s not the whole story, for we are also individuals who are able to do several things at once. My personal issues relate to one or two core emotional wounds that I know intimately. All connected. Let’s say it just seemed to be a perfect time for me to come across your channel because I’ve been coming to similar conclusions for a while, and I knew that some of these were rooted in philosophy. Stoicism has a lot of merit. Subscribed. Also you are facile with your words and cadence, and I find that soothing.

[@derekdowney8793]

I definitely found this to be quite eye-opening then I realized I've been forgetting a lot of this stuff and this is help me to get back on track. Thank you for that

[@maceklis444]

Great video once again, thank you so much for creating!

[@stoicbond]

Thank you for your continued support and for being part of our Stoic community! Drawing from today's video, have you identified any of the roles either within yourself or in people around you? It's always enlightening to hear different perspectives and experiences. Thanks for tuning in and sharing your feedback! 🌟

[@nancychandler768]

Sometimes we are so broken that we have trouble discerning the difference between being a victim or a survivor. 💔

[@stoicbond]

Hey @nancychandler768, thanks for watching the video! I completely agree, it can be difficult to distinguish between being a victim and a survivor. 🤔 Have you found any helpful strategies for navigating this gray area? Keep the conversation going! 💬

[@nancychandler768]

@@stoicbond I wish I could say yes, but I’m on a journey of healing right now. It is very difficult. It really is. I do love the stoic philosophy. It helps me to get into a better mindset for the day. ❤️

[@AgentMonochrome]

I would also include that Time Vampires are not only people, but also vices and the internal things we struggle with that slows or stops the journey of improvement.

[@stoicbond]

Hey there, @AgentMonochrome! 🤗 Thanks for watching the video and leaving your insightful comment! 🙌 I completely agree with you that Time Vampires can also come in the form of our own vices and internal struggles. 🧐 It's important to be aware of these things and work on overcoming them in order to continue our journey of improvement. 💪 Do you have any tips or strategies for dealing with these Time Vampires? 🤔

[@AgentMonochrome]

@@stoicbond I don't know. Time vampires are tied to what we think we need, but they're like hooks. I would say to replace them with something better.

[@mightychicken7774]

What is interesting about this is that I have 2 people very close to me who exhibit many of the traits you mentioned. One person I could argue fits all 7, or has, at one point or another. The bothering part to me is that I know that I have been as one or a few of these over the years without realizing it, and it has only been within the past 3 years, since the pandemic rattled my entire life and changed the direction of it immensely, that I was able to identify and understand who I was and what my positions were about different things. I have since began my path toward being a teacher, attempting to do my part to repair the damage that has occurred through poor philosophy and misinformation provided to students over the past decade and beyond. I dare not say I have all the answers, and in fact am in search of more questions of my own. This is what I provide to my students: A quest for questions and an attempt toward wisdom. My hope is that by recognizing the importance of self reflection and observance of our cultures, histories, concepts and ideas, that maybe we collectively can help produce deeper thinkers, philosophers, scientists, writers, and artists. Too often people get caught up in their own headspace about whatever is occurring in their lives without recognizing the effect it has on others or themselves. Misunderstandings, accusations, manipulations, all of this can stem from being caught up within one's self too much without understanding how to express it in a productive way. Once I decided to take a good look at myself and recognize where my strengths and weaknesses were, I discovered how I could make the best impact I could - not just for myself, but for everyone and everything I cared about. In my own small way, I now feel that I am on the right path for the first time. All it took me was to lose my career, my home, friends and family, and my prior way of life - and while it seems like a big toll to pay, I have never been more content with everything, even with the depressing state of the world. A favorite quote of mine is "Never tell someone what to think: Instead show them HOW to think.", to which I feel fits this comment decently enough. Educate, mentor, and provide guidance if you have something to contribute. Most importantly, never stop learning yourself, and recognize and accept it when you find yourself to be potentially wrong; but do not allow this optimism cloud the context. Errors teach us better than anything else - if we have the courage to both recognize when they occur and decide to make a change. Become the change you want to be, for nobody else will do it for you.

[@cathykrueger4899]

My brother, I now realize, was a toxic positivist. He learned it from Amway. It erected a wall between us. I could only communicate positive things to him. I couldn’t even tell him a friend had cancer. He would get angry and blame the friend.

[@stoicbond]

I'm truly sorry to hear about the rift that developed between you and your brother. It can be incredibly challenging when someone we care about adopts a mindset that doesn't allow room for the full spectrum of human experience. How do you think Stoic teachings might guide someone in navigating a relationship with a "toxic positivist"? Thank you for sharing such a personal experience with us; your reflections add depth to our understanding. 🌟🙏🏼

[@toxicmasculinity6554]

Your brother is the way he is. Everyone is different. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. You chose to erect that wall because he isn't the way you want him to be. If you actually believe this nonsense, perhaps your brother is lucky that you put that wall up.

[@younce-davis952]

Amway is a financial cult. I recommend looking at anti mlm youtubers for tips on how to deal with this. It isn't just amway, a bunch of other mlm cults exist out there and all have the same formula of getting and maintaining cult members.

[@SaveUSA1000]

Some of those MLM are like cults

[@1m2rich]

Right. Not everyone needs to take fhis job and shove it(Amway slogan). That is not success if you cant pay the rent. Positivity is doing that job until you can look for another by what you learned in the past.

[@clintrucker2088]

The two eyes One mouth got me for real ❤

[@stoicbond]

@clintrucker2088 Thank you for watching and sharing your feedback! ❤️ It's a powerful reminder, isn't it? Stoicism often encourages us to listen more and speak less. How do you think adopting this principle can impact our daily interactions and understanding of others? Eager to hear your thoughts on this! 😊🌟

[@chad9017]

The best revenge is to be unlike them. If you're talking about spiritual negativity that drags you down emotionally you're talking about a spiritual battle. No matter your religion or lack thereof. Advice was great I thought.

[@lol_histicall4289]

I love it how alot of the solutions for these problems I already practice and I didn’t even know anything about stoicism at that time

[@stoicbond]

Hey @lol_histicall4289, that's amazing to hear! It's always great when we unknowingly practice something that can benefit us. 😊 Which solution do you find most helpful? Keep up the great work and keep exploring stoicism! 💪

[@MarvelousMarleyMar]

Awesome, I found a two for two in this video. Two traits in myself that I must work on and two in someone very close that I must learn to deal with in a mature manner