7 ways to kill your SST Evo X

In today's video i share with you the advice and information I have picked up in the past 6 months or so of owning my SST Evo X

[@noughttonomad4561]

I don't even own an Evo and I'm making notes 🤣one can dream right.

[@joeschmoe5009]

Ralliarts are pretty close! And generally much cheaper

[@envy3349]

@@joeschmoe5009 no

[@joeschmoe5009]

@@envy3349 why do you say that?

[@Alid2198]

I'm a bmw fanboy wtf am i even doing here 😂

[@gundamxzero3]

@@Alid2198 envy im sure lol

[@raindropraindrop]

The tips are priceless for current or future owners!

[@izykio1370]

Thank you!! Just got an sst and I’ve been so nervous lol this really helped thanks again

[@MrShortStuff]

I have a Ralliart Sportback 09 SST 200000km before my SST shift Fork 4 came loose. Biggest mistake people make is servicing and changing the trans filter. No matter what the mechanic says, always change the trans filter. I have repaired so many valve bodies because people don't want to spend money go change their filters. Also you should drive it like a manual because that's what the gear box is designed to do.

[@mikixP]

What about it I drive in normal all the time ? Would it affect in any way ? I just say that because I share my car with my mom sometimes .

[@shad3128]

You made the same point my dad did. A lot of people with DCTs neglect the filters upon service, among their intervals. If you. Changing the filters frequently goes a long way!!

[@NikosAl]

Great video mate! I have an SST Evo X as well and I couldn't agree more with what you are saying. There's an 8th way however. Temperature. You need to make sure you have a temperature reading of your SST and before you start hammering it you have to make sure it's over 65-70C. If you car is tuned you can get temperature readings using Torque pro + MUTv2 add on or you can install a RaceCapture Track unit. That's what I've done and I'm now able to monitor SST temp, SST pressures on both clutches, oil temp, oil pressure. :-)

[@A_G420]

so you can measure it it with the MUTv2 plugin? sweet! Way more convenient than a laptop with Evoscan. Thanks

[@NikosAl]

@@A_G420 yeap. It needs a bit of work to setup it up but then it's excellent

[@m0rphin3_ow63]

@@NikosAl i currently drive an 03 evo 8. im getting ready to sell it and pick up an Evo X MR. the main thing im worried about is not liking the gearbox and especially the reliability of the gearbox!

[@NikosAl]

@@m0rphin3_ow63 62K km in mine with my SST and I absolutely love it! Love overall experience of it, love the upshifts and downshift throttle blips, love the 6th gear and the 3 diffrent modes. As long as you take care of your box it should take care of you.

[@m0rphin3_ow63]

@@NikosAl thanks =) harder parts gonna be selliin my 03 evo 8 so im able to get a box 0.o

[@sidz675]

Great stuff. You now have a huge Evo X fan subscriber 👍🏼

[@Enpatsu393]

I know people can be scared from this video.. but I assure you.. I have a 2009 MR ALL STOCK..been going oil change 1 per year while following the schedule maintenance...I've never had a problem with it so far. Keep your Evo clean and it will run smoothly with you.

[@eastoakland-S65feen]

Nice. Im love the 7/8/9 evo but i live the dct evo X & the frame the X has. Really rigid & tight. How many miles do u have on ur MR

[@Enpatsu393]

@@eastoakland-S65feen Around 51k

[@eastoakland-S65feen]

@@Enpatsu393 o dang thats not bad for an 09. Well its a hard choice 4 me to make because i love the previous models. But the X has so much to offer.

[@Enpatsu393]

@@eastoakland-S65feen I really love the previous model too.. but good luck finding one that isn't modified..

[@mikixP]

Do you drive in manual mode ? “Using paddle shifters ? Or normal mode ?

[@zenit558]

Thanks for the video, something that was done to my sst was installing a bigger oil cooler too

[@justjsse8917]

I've been reading the 10 plate clutch with a tune is amazing 💪

[@Syow2x]

Doing really well with the videos mate keep them coming 👍👍

[@hawkeallen1319]

Thanks for the info man! I'll be checking out how to reteach the sst. I've been doing fluid changes every 12-15k after reading that it should be done around 5-7k from the transmission manufacturer but Mitsubishi said 25-35k. This is because 15500 is when I notice the gear box starting to misbehave. Hence 12 is when I am like ok it's about time aha.

[@Numptee86]

Top video bro, subscribed. Keep it up ey!

[@DANTHEGAMER1001]

Great video! I was doing fine until number 7, guilt as 😰 I’ll be sure to switch it too full recirc. I love the sound though so I’m hoping a tune can adjust it so the computer doesn’t get confused😬

[@dextersewlakhan565]

Redline dct fluid works really well on the sst gearbox

[@socalsupercars420]

I wish this video would’ve been out before my TC SST died 😭😭😭

[@YohelBmx]

How many miles did it have? I'm looking for a ralliart but this SST stuff worries me

[@vladvidrean1710]

The whole VTA thing could have been more generalized into smth like "don't touch anything related to airflow without a tune". Any kind of intake with a different maf position included

[@elijahgarcia6070]

I'm FBO and larger turbo, stock internals, stock trans and diff, 55k on my 2015 MR for the past 2 years. Spirited driving on the weekends. As for any car, If you take care of your ride, you will be fine. We buy these to send it, so if it blows. Time for an upgrade😁🤪🤑 financial mistake, but I love it

[@BrendanShort1]

I wish people would stop spreading misinformation about the SST gearbox. If you check the Mitsubishi service manual for the Evo X, it actually specifies to replace the gearbox fluid, you must use the Mitsubishi Diaqueen SST fluid for the change. No ifs. No buts. I know Castrol are the manufacturer of the Diaqueen fluid, but it's a Mitsubishi proprietary formula that cannot be sold by Castrol under it's own brand. It contains components that are not found in the fluid shown on the video. Second. You are supposed to drain the fluid, replace the filter. Fill the gearbox back up again. Close the fill hole. Turn on the car. Shift through the gears and back to park. Drain fluid. Remove filter. Inspect fluid and filter. If containments are found. Replace with another new filter, fill. Change gears. Drain fluid AGAIN. Check fluid and filter. If clean then you can refill and reseal the box and job done. Now that factory process will cost thousands if followed to the factory specs. I use Penrite SST fluid as my flush fluid but I always refill at the end with Diaqueen. I can get away with a fluid change for around $1200 Australian if I source the parts and get my mechanic to do the job. It's really really expensive to run an Evo X properly.

[@rodneyalacan9473]

This is the same for ah ralliart 2009? I do the oil change in the Mitsubishi dealer and they charge me like $600 US and i dont belive they do all this...

[@depressedsauce2898]

@@rodneyalacan9473 about to get my 09 ralliart done as well. The dealer may just treat it like a regular lancer

[@epicturbojapanthings6798]

Just came across this video as im about to buy an sst. Thanks for the info! How to drive the car is what I'm looking for. Keep hearing it's not a normal automatic... Needs more care 😎

[@rowanlewisuk]

This is the channel for you I have videos on everything sst 😎

[@ianofsjkartwork]

Well explained...thanks for sharing

[@profrook]

i would argue about point #5, sure in super-sport mode that gearbox is super aggressive on changing gears and clamps like there is no tomorrow, but you can do same thing in sport mode by using brake and accelerator pedal at the same time, ECU will clamp cluch before it opens TB

[@strifu808]

What about letting the throttle go?? I feel like that makes sense too

[@FourthandFoles]

Thanks man! Cheers from CA 🤙

[@jcmedinaceli]

Didnt know about the dumpvalve. Thanks

[@jcmedinaceli]

Would be really appreciated if you show us an sst oil change plus the oil cooler cleaning process✌️

[@rowanlewisuk]

Will do mate next video is sst service how to

[@richardpeters2737]

Decade long daily driver, you can only warm up the gearbox by driving, gently at first. 20 mins later get on her, 75k miles factory box and clutch.

[@Dedsec2.0T]

I have a 2009 lancer ralliart with almost 140k miles on it. When I first start my car after sitting in the cold, my transmission refuses to go into 1st and reverse. Once it does catch and I start driving, it will very harshly jump revs when accelerating, and will do the same when shifting. Code reader says that the pressure control solenoid is bad, and I don't know how complicated or expensive that can be. I bought the car from a guy in Chicago that seemed like he didn't take care of it. I replaced the sst fluid with diaqueen, but couldn't afford the filter. Any suggestions or help? I really wanna build this car after college, but I need to keep it reliable until I have the money to.

[@shad3128]

So im getting an MR with around 50k shortly. I'm not going to purchase without reviewing service records and intervals esp. for the trans. But it's a good price, and i won't be driving it to death while I'm in med school. Question is, if I get the car should I do the transmission re-learn you mentioned, and do the fluid service for the trans as well as the cleaning for the cooler? Or if the previous owner didn't really care for the transmission, am i screwed either way? Its not like i can put it up on a lift when I go to buy it and drain the cases and look at the fluid and filters so I don't have much to go on other than hopes and prayers. Lol

[@stewiemac4017]

Thanks really appreciate it

[@modepush]

im going to buy a bone stock 09 ralliart with 129k miles, whats the first thing i should do once i buy it

[@ericr7162]

What is the product number for the oil?

[@garrettgroten8288]

I have a 2010 ralliart an i have kind of a rough idle, at 1k rpm it drops about 150-200 rpm every couple seconds anyone else have this issue an/or how did they fix it. My original thought was throttle body but I think it’s the spark plugs, any info y’all got is much appreciated😁

[@FaithlessEmoRacing]

You should put a info card on point 3 to your video! 👍🏻

[@zman6288]

Is it OK to be in manual shift mode Say 5th gear and then come to a stop without townshifting it yourself is this bad for SST?

[@alikebabjr]

Hey mate, that fluid-topic has been discussed for years. In Germany y companies have stricter rules for oil/selling oil. Companies must PROVE through alot of test y that their product ist AT LEAST EQUAL or better than oem. After that it's allowed to sell with labeled specifications like Mercedes, Mitsubishi and so on. It's been 4 years now with my Evo X SST and since than I've done 5 fluid changes and everytime with Rowe Motor Oil (a bigger German company). Never had any problems at all =)

[@evoxsst]

That's why i use Ravenol. I can get it cheap otherwise i would use Röwe ;)

[@A_G420]

I'm in the US and had to get Diaqueen...$440 for 2 gallons

[@krener29]

So you recommend ravenol? Do you notice something strange?

[@nathanlewisuk]

Thanks I’ll check my box later just had my mot all good just a tyre. I thought my car was hesitating 🤔

[@rowanlewisuk]

Yeah bet it feels like a tired old fiat panda or something

[@iTechEveryWeek]

Any idea on SST oil filter. I found one that says direct replacement costs 30$ I see a lot of them for 115$ range USD that say OEM. Any idea if the 30$ one would work?

[@rowanlewisuk]

I believe a ford gearbox uses the same filter and its much cheaper so you may be looking at that

[@ianmelling-xt9ht]

Good sound video

[@ron4274]

Excellent video!! I recently bought a 2013 Lancer Ralliart with the SST trans and only 85,000 km. The price was cheap because the trans won't go into 3rd, 5th, or reverse. Any thoughts on what the problem might be? Cheers!

[@hassans184]

one of the clutches is gone its very expensive to fix you might need a new one I recommend finding a good performance shop that knows how to work on evos ssp clutches are the best for the sst

[@quiksilvrdragon7]

Contact Jacks transmissions or Kozmic motorsports, these two two shops are the pros when it comes to SSTs

[@exor1238]

I just bough a 2010 Ralliart and I have some Questions: In reason number 5. I know its better to use Sport mode so the clutch doesn't slip that much, but I have notice If U use sport like on the street It will stay on 3-4 gear. Will this damage over time the SST? Or its just better to use normal Mode on the streets, and sport on highways. On Reason number 7: BOV is not healthy for the MR as you stated, But changing the Ralliart BOV to the Evo one Will it also be unhealthy for the car or not ?

[@ggwaptm]

You in Los Angeles?

[@devonc9439]

I have an 09 evo mr relatively stock with tune. Has nearly 210000 km on the stock clutches still going strong, plenty of spirited driving but no launches. Its just luck of the draw with shift forks

[@gundamxzero3]

I read before not to drive it in s-sport mode all the time. I like to anyway but is that really the best way to drive it? ive heard so many different things im not sure what to believe. also does the oil go bad? I was considering buying a ton of it just to have incase it was really hard to get at some point.

[@rowanlewisuk]

I use Super Sport all the time. I also wondered about the fluid but you can still get oil for 100 year old cars if people will buy it people will make it

[@wholivelikethis]

good tips

[@OliverRivettCarnac]

Shot man. Did you mean Sport mode or Supersport? I have recently upgraded my SST to the Dodson Sportsman Plus kit in my Evo X. The Supersport mode on the new clutches is super brutal. Regarding dump values I'd assume recirculating dump valves are also an option of you need / want to change out the stock unit. Good information!

[@petermach2581]

My 2008 MR still rocking, trans oil changes every 2 years or 30k. Also always drive on Super Sports mode. Unless your driving on freeway.

[@MellowBTW]

Do you happen to use the transmax or the diaqueen? I continue to do research and everyone seems to be using transmax but when I go on Evo forums everyone says (use OEM or you're fucked) any input?

[@petermach2581]

@@MellowBTW for the first few years of ownership I got diaqueen, then I had TMR Team Mitsubishi Racing (ralliart Australia) changed my radiator to a racing one and had a major service there. They told me they were both the same. As Castro makes the oil for Mitsubishi and labelled them diaqueen. I've been using dual transmax ever since. If you're not tracking ur car. You just need to drive your car normally on ss mode until ur trans oil temp is above 73-74 degree. Change your trans oil 20-30k, the gearbox isn't weak if you look after them. Most people damage them because they drive in non ss mode and thrash them when cold.

[@MellowBTW]

@@petermach2581 Awesome, I really appreciate this reply now I can order some transmax and switch out my fluid ASAP much love brother hope your MR is still holding nicely!

[@petermach2581]

@@MellowBTW you need to change the filter too don't cheap out on them, they not that expensive but will save you thousand on a transmission rebuild. My MR never missed a beat, still shifting gears violently. Also you can get the ss mode mode from AK racing which leaves the sst in ss mode as default. Which I find very handy. Only time I turn it back to S mode is when I'm cruising freewayni turn on cruise control.

[@McMeevin]

I've been through 5 SSTs in my Ralliart, all replaced under warranty 🤣

[@sd7289]

Question...my sst gets through the gears fine when cold but then after a little while when it hits 4th gear it drops gears 2 4 and 6. I thought shift fork magnet, but its fine when restarting cold...any ideas?

[@sd7289]

@mrshortstuff thoughts?

[@richardpeters2737]

The SSt box is not a normal automatic. If you stop straight into neutral. If your on a hill use the handbrake again neutral much cheaper than a box rebuild

[@iride1323]

Great video what is the website for the oil

[@rowanlewisuk]

Thanks it's Opie oils

[@iride1323]

Thank u

[@A_G420]

Subbed

[@Zerofightervi]

Interesting video, it does make you wonder if modifications on an Evo X with the SST box are really worth it?

[@Numptee86]

I'd say yeah, and all I've got is the Ralliart. the SST is amazing to drive with....expensive, but amazing.

[@Zerofightervi]

@@Numptee86 Are you from the UK?

[@rowanlewisuk]

It is very capable and can hold incredible power for not that much money if done right. For equal power it will batter a manual. However treating it like a manual is going to cause issues. Good clutches and keeping the bov fully recirc is all it needs for big power. Also keeping torque reasonable and going for a high bhp high revving build is alot easier on the box than a low bhp max torque build.

[@Zerofightervi]

@@rowanlewisuk I think it's unfortunate that Evo Xs have fell into the hands of some people who clearly don't know how to look after them properly. Regular fluid changes are an absolute must on these cars. Another tale tale sign of a cash strapped owner is cheapy tyres, if I were looking to buy & it's got some unknown brand I'd make my excuses & walk away.

[@rowanlewisuk]

@@Zerofightervi I agree. mine has not been looked after but I'm enjoying putting it right and making videos as I go along

[@Sayrex_Andrey]

Спасибо тебе за видео! Это очень интересно!

[@manysrally710]

If your planning to upgrade the evo. Get the gsr. I owned a sst gearbox ones. If something does go wrong, It's a money pit that's simply not worth it.

[@ggwaptm]

I’m trying to make sure nothing happens to mine

[@manysrally710]

@@ggwaptm maintenance is key 🔑

[@anthonycoffey816]

Little confused, I thought the sst was supposed to be able to drive fully automatic where it shifts completely on it's own with the option to put it into manual mode to have some fun. But I've seen a few people saying it's bad for the transmission to let it shift on it's own. I'd prefer a manual transmission anyway but only having 5 gears & screaming at 3k rpm at 70mph would be ridiculous. But if I have to manually shift the sst I'd rather just get the gsr. Any help would be appreciated, I'm leaning twords an evo x for a daily.

[@rowanlewisuk]

Anthony Coffey the SST can drive in manual or automatic. The problem is when you start thrashing it when it’s not in sport. The car slips the clutches more than necessary. So put it in Super Sport when having fun and normal when you want auto

[@anthonycoffey816]

@@rowanlewisuk excellant, Thank you! so many sst reviews only show people thrashing them in manual mode so I wasn't sure. Nice to know I can drive like a normal human & just putt around until i wanna have some fun. I love my manuals but my '13 Camaro SS 6-speed is getting REAL tiresome commuting around town 😁

[@James-yl3kk]

is this more fun to drive than a golf r?

[@rowanlewisuk]

Its definitely less reliable but can you drift a golf r?

[@James-yl3kk]

@@rowanlewisuk No they understeer.

[@chickenricesteak541]

@@rowanlewisuk idk about less reliable. I seen plenty of evo hitting pass 150k mark haven’t seen a golf R yet but sure there are some.

[@Neartizy]

Is sst cvt are the same?

[@AtomWR1]

Nop on this lancer u can find a version with CVT or CT-SST

[@classiccarfinder]

Clarksons a mate of the head of colt car company fact

[@evoxsst]

well i'm running the RAVENOL DCT/DSG Getriebe Fluid for 4 years now without any problems. ;)

[@rowanlewisuk]

All the best to you but your playing with fire lol

[@Numptee86]

Heard plenty say something similar....then they go all quiet when someone at their mechanics posts a photo of their car up on the hoist asking what happened...

[@evoxsst]

And i'm changing the oil every 30000km.

[@rowanlewisuk]

@@evoxsst that's just over 18k miles what mitsubishi recommends so good. In the UK we don't here of that oil so it may be fine but in the UK out of our choices only castrol is proven to work perfect

[@cjlaw2022]

I changed my sst fluids back in may , i asked opie oils and they suggested i use millers millermatic ATF DCT-DSG fluid, which states its a DIA Queen sstf equivalent. Bit confused now ... is it ok equivalent or do i need to drain it and change to the castrol ??

[@jbrizz99]

Talking about high performance cars, 75,000 miles would be too long even for a manual. I would say no more than 30,000 miles for example in a 6 speed Subaru. It's not a Yaris and you don't drive it like one, do the damn servicing.

[@ianjohnson4541]

Diaqueen sstf-1.

[@ianjohnson4541]

The seals are sensitive to third party products such as the one you've used.

[@swan14039]

What has cvt got to do with it 🤔

[@rowanlewisuk]

Its not a cvt so if you treat it like one you’ll kill it

[@swan14039]

One uses a belt the weak point and can't think of anything that puts the power that that does with a belt 🤔

[@rowanlewisuk]

@@swan14039 🤔

[@swan14039]

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[@nik4828]

Мужики, переведите на русский пожалуйста

[@Smdalldissrespect]

Just get a manuel

[@josecosta31]

Just don’t drive the car then !! What’s the point of being so careful with a rally car design to be driven on the limit !!!

[@rowanlewisuk]

Jose Costa Junior rally cars race for a season then get rebuilt. These cars get thrashed every day for years on end!

[@Pippy1]

Because he isnt a rally driver with a team and basically unlimited money behind him? Id love to see u just beat on ur car daily

[@nlsuelo2004]

The sst is complete Rubbish!!

[@diegoaccord]

7 ways to kill your SST: Buy it Own it Have it Look at it Think about it Drive it It exists