715 kW Pelton turbine-HD

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NoreX

NoreX

13 жыл бұрын

WEBSITE: www.arteigur.is
There is another turbine that is further down that generates 500kW. So in total 1.2MW
The elevation difference is 237 meters and the water flow about 380 Liters per second!

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@NoreXIceland
@NoreXIceland 11 жыл бұрын
1. We have build 3 turbines on the same river. 120Kw.(about 1980) 500Kw (2005) and 715kw (2008) 2. Yes it would be but we make our turbines our self, and 715kw was the largest we had ever build and we could not see us (some farmers and electricians) build that large scale water turbine. 3. Not sure about the investment on the generator but I think it was about 80.000$ -120.000$ 4. Yes this one powers is 715Kw max! 5. 15-20 years I think. Thank you for watching! and Sry for late reply
@hvpowerltdhvp7599
@hvpowerltdhvp7599 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, I'm really Interested watching the Installation of the 715kw Turbine. how much was the total cost includes the Turbine, the penstock pine and the complete Installation of the power station and accessories cost? Thank you sir, I'm really impressed with the quality of the Hydro Turbine Generator and will appreciate your response on the cost of the Hydro Turbine Generator.
@NoreXIceland
@NoreXIceland 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The generator comes from TES. You can google: tes generators and find the website!
@geraldstokes5661
@geraldstokes5661 11 жыл бұрын
awsome ! i love hydro without the need to dam the river. i'm contemplating a little project of my own (small) thanks for the video...
@RoxtonN
@RoxtonN 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Without any polish, very little noise, the Pelton turbine is without a doubt amazing. They should be more used around the world. Especially here in Brazil. Thanks for the video!
@florh
@florh Жыл бұрын
that depends on the height and flow rate difference, on whether to choose for a Kaplan, Pelton or Francis turbine.
@anthonydewono8391
@anthonydewono8391 8 жыл бұрын
Really a good job of power generation with Pelton turbine. We have similar in Lombok island, Indonesia ; 2 units of 1,900 kW ; Head is 285 m ; Water disharge 1.6 m3/sec ; Penstok dia 90 cm and 1,682 m long ; connected to grid of 20 kV line ; commissioned Jan 2013 ; so far so good but now there is small water due to El Nino
@airlinesafety5667
@airlinesafety5667 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Whats the RPM of the generator?
@TheDavidMoskovitz
@TheDavidMoskovitz 12 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool video. Thanks for posting and have a nice day too.
@vaporainwaves
@vaporainwaves 11 жыл бұрын
now that is freaking efficient!!
@flaplaya
@flaplaya 7 жыл бұрын
ABB rigging complete with tiny wire trays.. Gigantic success and someone is getting a phat cheque.
@sharifabdul4237
@sharifabdul4237 6 жыл бұрын
Keep it up .wow cannot explian in words. The beauty of power prodiction
@NoreXIceland
@NoreXIceland 11 жыл бұрын
Not sure because its very new and has not had any larger problems so far! The generators bearings is 10 years lifetime. The impeller should last 20-30 years and even longer if sand that runs through is not much.
@Orbis92
@Orbis92 6 жыл бұрын
I was watching a few water turbine videos, mostly from a guy how build his own "one family" sized turbine for his house somewhere in the Colorado mountains, when I came across this video. Nervous me skipped the intro and just watched the part with this nice turbine and the electrical cabinets when the camera faded out to show the outside. Around 3:10 I started to wonder if this turbine might be based in Iceland, the most beautiful country I went (just a year ago) and I wasn't disappointed when I took a closer look to the description...but I couldn't imaging that such a small turbine (house) could power 700 houses. I am not really into water turbines (yet ;)) and expected a turbine with around 100kW for a few houses inside a buildings sized like this (but I have to admit, even for my inexperienced eyes, its a lot of water coming out of the turbine house for "just" 100kW)
@NoreXIceland
@NoreXIceland 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! : ) Yes we know that, thank you. We found solution after the video! the solution was to but powerful fans that would blow air around the turbine. It worked very well.
@bassamjawad1519
@bassamjawad1519 7 жыл бұрын
NoreX can you used water pump if no river and no stream
@pandjnixon
@pandjnixon 8 жыл бұрын
You could add on a second hydro-scheme from the tail race water, which appears to still travel "unharnessed", a long way down the hill to reach the flat-lands below !
@salidet2574
@salidet2574 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Nixon how how
@b43xoit
@b43xoit 2 жыл бұрын
@@salidet2574 Small weir a little way downstream from the existing powerhouse, pipe going down, second powerhouse.
@Nighthawke70
@Nighthawke70 11 жыл бұрын
What is the MTBF on the generator and turbine? And the time between maintenance on all the major components? And the estimated lifetime on the impeller?
@eddieneedsboost
@eddieneedsboost 12 жыл бұрын
Very nice! But I'm wondering why the power house isn't further downstream? Wouldn't this create much more power?
@mshvidogio
@mshvidogio 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, great engineering
@JohnBoyDeere
@JohnBoyDeere 5 жыл бұрын
Music? For a while I really though someone was just banging on the feed pipes...
@draculakickyourass
@draculakickyourass 12 жыл бұрын
Just a sugestion: you should thermical isolate the water pipes to avoid the exterior condensation....as you can see in the video,the water tube have condensed water outside,wich in time will result corosion.Anywere,good job!
@ramade9040
@ramade9040 4 жыл бұрын
So stealth yet so powerful.
@draculakickyourass
@draculakickyourass 12 жыл бұрын
you don't need to put any air flow,if the tubes are isolated from the ambient whith mineral wool for example,the condensation will not apear anymore,thats for not spending energy whith fans and turbines
@nejatshabani5645
@nejatshabani5645 7 жыл бұрын
بسیار جذاب و عالی Thanks for the video
@JFinnerud
@JFinnerud 4 жыл бұрын
two one minute non skippable commercial breaks before the video starts... WOW!
@sprasannaatsjec
@sprasannaatsjec 13 жыл бұрын
nice projects
@842Reis842
@842Reis842 7 жыл бұрын
Queria eu, saber, como é controlado a frequencia em hertz, parece que ví algo, controlado por um pêndulo.
@jonathanweimane6926
@jonathanweimane6926 4 жыл бұрын
there seems to be potential for much more
@robinbirla7121
@robinbirla7121 6 жыл бұрын
sir I'm use 25kva altinator to make hydro power plant so how many water flow want to operate it's 25kva, working on 1500 rpm , 3 phase , 4 pol
@harridaredevil2781
@harridaredevil2781 3 жыл бұрын
hey good video i love these kinna videos can you please tell me do you used any gearbox for speed increase? or is it direct shaft and also please can you tell me the RPM
@Haukurmarteins
@Haukurmarteins 13 жыл бұрын
Noh ! bara HD og allt! :D
@NoreXIceland
@NoreXIceland 4 жыл бұрын
Já maður
@Pasandeeros
@Pasandeeros 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Does it run like this 24/7 year around? Why didn't you build it further down the slope?
@pravinzade739
@pravinzade739 6 жыл бұрын
super idea
@tlohn8272
@tlohn8272 6 жыл бұрын
It might be stupid question, but what's the flow in the winter?
@josetiagotiago4524
@josetiagotiago4524 5 жыл бұрын
bom material , venho por este meio solicitar a possibilidade de adquirir este equipamento para a minha pequena vila em Angola
@peterpaul2022
@peterpaul2022 11 ай бұрын
Una consulta. El voltaje que sale del generador se puede consumir ya sin tener la necesidad de elevar el voltaje?
@byaskumar9556
@byaskumar9556 6 жыл бұрын
good.video.sir
@MINEEAE
@MINEEAE 11 жыл бұрын
how many have you or will you build along that stream? if done once you could collekt that ammount of energy 20 more times... just by going down the river a few meters. how mutch of investment was this generator? ($=?) it powers 700kw, korrekt? how long does it take for self-finantiation? thank you for your effort and your Unsering my Questions!
@sezaiyalcin7566
@sezaiyalcin7566 6 жыл бұрын
şalt sahası ? nakil hattı ? iletim nasıl yapılıyor göremedim.
@juanidelarios5946
@juanidelarios5946 4 жыл бұрын
Profe perez Punta Alta, jaja saludos
@dr.hussein1803
@dr.hussein1803 19 күн бұрын
Can I use long tube and make alot of generator across it before the end point
@weeardguy
@weeardguy 7 жыл бұрын
What is the coil that looks like a Tesla-coil like primary at 2:30 mark?
@two_number_nines
@two_number_nines 6 жыл бұрын
some resistor
@kanehenderson5341
@kanehenderson5341 10 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I would really like to view your website and find out more about the project but www.arteigur.is seems to require a login? I am planning my own project and would be very interested in learning more about yours. Thanks Kane
@antlop86fear17
@antlop86fear17 4 жыл бұрын
Первая проблема это прямой привод генератора с турбиной что влечет за собой быстрый износ подшипников из-за вибраций, вторая: турбина должна находится в независимом помещение от генератора на случай если выдавит сальник или произойдет разрыв трубы.
@hassanbnsalh3487
@hassanbnsalh3487 6 жыл бұрын
Hello how much is the cost of this project and what is the percentage of water pressure thanks
@andergaray5662
@andergaray5662 3 жыл бұрын
muy chula!
@batekofficialBatek
@batekofficialBatek 3 жыл бұрын
Wow.. big power hyro
@user-qw8yy5gp1k
@user-qw8yy5gp1k 6 жыл бұрын
for how much you can build such a generator
@Cortemus
@Cortemus 9 жыл бұрын
how much did this cost to install?
@acmefixer1
@acmefixer1 4 жыл бұрын
More money than you will ever have. It doesn't matter. The people living there pay for it with their electric bills.
@mazlumkaplan69
@mazlumkaplan69 4 жыл бұрын
hello I am in the stage of developing a project and I have a constant water flow of 477 kg / s and I would be glad if you tell me which company you buy the alternator you use because thank you
@b43xoit
@b43xoit 2 жыл бұрын
Looks as though downstream from that powerhouse, there is lots more head that could be exploited.
@Gummientenkillass
@Gummientenkillass 9 жыл бұрын
Does it shred fish?
@lucasschofield8716
@lucasschofield8716 8 жыл бұрын
pelton turbines fire water through a tiny jet, fish would jam/damage the nozzle, so they're fitted with big filter screens on the inlets. no mushed fish.
@Wetboyslim
@Wetboyslim 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, 125 Kgs of fish pate per minute :) Its outlet is directed to canning factory, to make a "Delicious turbofish"
@NoName-dd5ll
@NoName-dd5ll 5 жыл бұрын
It does. And fries them too.
@hvpowerltd2163
@hvpowerltd2163 Жыл бұрын
What is the velocity height and head measurement...
@NoreXIceland
@NoreXIceland 11 жыл бұрын
Its a long story that I will hopefully explain in my next video... There are actually 3 turbines. 715Kw, 500Kw and 120 kw. The smallest one, we use for our self. Its only one river, but 3 turbines.
@kmohanbabu8845
@kmohanbabu8845 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea. Cost
@nguyenthienhoa1426
@nguyenthienhoa1426 4 жыл бұрын
the water tube is small ..... how it get 700kW???
@DarkoMFS
@DarkoMFS 11 жыл бұрын
80% overall efficiency .. ok :)
@pelton242
@pelton242 13 жыл бұрын
looks like you run at 22bar with 380 l/sec loss of only 1.7 bar is that a 600mm id pipe or have you got away with 500mm Cheers
@pepsi-2112
@pepsi-2112 4 жыл бұрын
WOW 😮
@abdjabar5573
@abdjabar5573 2 жыл бұрын
Hello my brother engineer, I am very impressed with this work. Greetings to you and to those with you?? Can I add something to this beautiful system....... I hope you will excuse me for interfering with your beautiful work, which is........ Why didn't you make a concrete basin with a capacity of 5000 liters here it stays The water in the basin is circulating and thank you for listening to me
@s3frand939
@s3frand939 2 жыл бұрын
Good
@im_abigkid_now
@im_abigkid_now 7 жыл бұрын
NoreX can this project be modifietd to work with storage water tank in areas with no stream or rivers.
@nb117
@nb117 6 жыл бұрын
it could but how are you getting the water in the tank? Rain?
@b43xoit
@b43xoit 2 жыл бұрын
Basically, no. Max power is head x flow.
@mavutochiwaka4490
@mavutochiwaka4490 Жыл бұрын
Where can I find these please and how much
@ccdaddy61
@ccdaddy61 10 жыл бұрын
Using a pool pump,would I get more sustainable HP by restricting or using it full bore from a 2" inch hose? I know,it should be able, to run something. Just what, I do not know. Please help.
@lucasschofield8716
@lucasschofield8716 8 жыл бұрын
I would imagine full bore so that you can make use of the full volume of water at a given velocity, it also reduces frictional losses in the inlet pipe. the only reason I can think of to limit the nozzle would be to give the water much higher velocity in a high pressure scenario.
@abdjabar5573
@abdjabar5573 2 жыл бұрын
مرحبا اخي المهندس انا جدا معجب بهذا العمل تحياتي لك ولمن معك ؟؟ممكن ان اضيف شيء لهذا السيستم الجميل...... ارجو المعذرة لتدخلي لعملكم الجميل وهي........لماذا لم تعمل حوض كونكريت بسعة 5000لتر هنا يبقى الماء في الحوض متداور وشكرا لاصغائكم لي
@IlluminatedWhiteGuy
@IlluminatedWhiteGuy 10 жыл бұрын
They are wasting massive power! They should connect a pipe to the output and build another generator building daisy chaining them every 200ft head drop down the hill all the way to the bottom... The additional vacuum pressure from each drop pipe would also increase power at each station.
@DanDan-dn5lt
@DanDan-dn5lt 7 жыл бұрын
Geo K Good idea I thought the same 👍
@ghostxop2101
@ghostxop2101 7 жыл бұрын
That isn't wasting anything in the sense that you say they are, they are however missing out on opportunity.
@TheScoutGuyYTPs
@TheScoutGuyYTPs 7 жыл бұрын
......maybe consider learning some physics before you say anything. Water will lose it's pressure after turning it into energy. Turbines have resistance depending on how much power they want to get out of it or how many things are connected to it. This means, it will slow down the water, lower the pressure and the next turbine will be more inefficient and generate less power.
@TheScoutGuyYTPs
@TheScoutGuyYTPs 7 жыл бұрын
But making it all the way downhill is better than stacking it. Didn't quite read that right. But yeah, it wouln't be as efficient.
@NoreXIceland
@NoreXIceland 7 жыл бұрын
Hi! We actually do that, there are 2 more turbines after this one. So we use the same water 3 times. We used daisy chaining to build smaller but more affordable turbines.
@franklyncastillo7416
@franklyncastillo7416 6 жыл бұрын
Lo mejor
@user-id3pu3pr2e
@user-id3pu3pr2e 4 ай бұрын
Сколько проводов от генератора?
@nighthawkone8596
@nighthawkone8596 6 жыл бұрын
This power plant dosn’t seem achived
@radlun8221
@radlun8221 11 жыл бұрын
What is the source of water? barrage , river?
@russellking9762
@russellking9762 4 жыл бұрын
God...!
@yuriyong
@yuriyong 3 жыл бұрын
I have serious doubts that ammount of water flux can produce 715kw.
@esthermendoza3798
@esthermendoza3798 7 жыл бұрын
muy pronto baños a comprar una unidad para mi rancho
@ccdaddy61
@ccdaddy61 10 жыл бұрын
In a much smaller version of this,that's ran by a pool pump,but restricting the size of the flow. By either, two methods. 1st method, is to increase pressure by creating a fan effect. Sort of,like when you put your finger over a water hose. Thus, running it over a HVAC squirrel cage. That is hooked, to a Generator. 2 nd method, would be using a pelton wheel,that's being pushed by forward and also backward. By two jet streams. That is, also hooked to a 7000 watt generator. Will the load, cause the wheel to slow or stop? Keep in mind, that the Generator would be separated from all liquids. By Plexiglas . Will this work? on maybe a 20 kw generator???? Or to what size, do you think it would run? If any. Thank you.
@lucasschofield8716
@lucasschofield8716 8 жыл бұрын
when not connected drawing power the type of turbine connected should make little difference (ie: the more power you're drawing the greater the load on the generator, like the alternator in your car, turning on lights/heating/a.c. Will mean a greater force is required to turn the alternator)
@solargamer1
@solargamer1 6 жыл бұрын
This turbine is not for homes hahah this powers up GENESIS MINING in Iceland!
@hamidmoulla4716
@hamidmoulla4716 4 жыл бұрын
Cherche emploi électricien chantier..... Merci
@mortadarasool3007
@mortadarasool3007 3 жыл бұрын
سلام عليكم ممكن اعرف اليه العمل
@markoconroy
@markoconroy 11 жыл бұрын
fantastic job.. can I ask where you acquired the turbine generator set?
@wernerf.1345
@wernerf.1345 6 жыл бұрын
from ebay
@chemisaqartvelo4155
@chemisaqartvelo4155 5 жыл бұрын
Hello. You have a good mini power station.I need help, Where can I buy 50-100-500 kw engines? HPP, all the arrangement.Water engine, electric engine, electric power. Everything a mini power plant needs.I am from Georgia. Caucasus. There are many rivers here. I was interested in mini-haes business. 30-50 HPP.Can you help me Who told me who produces mini hydro power plants? ( I'm sorry for English.Translated by Google )
@user-ef9pb8uy3r
@user-ef9pb8uy3r 9 ай бұрын
Какомзаводе можно купит турбину
@younaslala4740
@younaslala4740 8 жыл бұрын
dear sir I am living in pakistan due to energy crisis we suffer alot. here we have plenty of water for purposes like this but because of corrupt system government is not ready to build thing like this for us. i want to buy it for private sector.how much will it cost me a system of 500 kv. water is not a problem we have plenty of it.
@tbyte007
@tbyte007 8 жыл бұрын
You need the water to be high above the turbine , not just water :)
@waheedcheema1319
@waheedcheema1319 8 жыл бұрын
YOUNAS bhai hm se rabta kijay hakumat chor he me or ap to nhi...????????? hm ap ko eysa power house lga dain gey k goray apnay nakhun chabatay he reh jaen gey..///.chipko789@gmail.com
@miselmarina569
@miselmarina569 7 жыл бұрын
k p
@dhavamanitechnologies-hydr1616
@dhavamanitechnologies-hydr1616 7 жыл бұрын
by seeing videos you can make one unit also,. or you can try 2 kw first, then go on increasing,. i can give some help in electric side,. as we are manufacturing electronic speed governors also(ELC), feel free to mail me id dhavamanitechnologies@gmail.com
@codetan6179
@codetan6179 6 жыл бұрын
younas khan contact me, We manufacture hydro turbine generator for small powerplant 100KW to 20,000KW in China.
@fatinho552
@fatinho552 13 жыл бұрын
how much money make this system?
@desireboy34
@desireboy34 4 жыл бұрын
100k usd
@VITATTA
@VITATTA 9 жыл бұрын
ANY CHANCE TO TURN OFF THE STUPID "MUSIC"
@sharifabdul4237
@sharifabdul4237 7 жыл бұрын
Erik D ha ha ha ha ha ha iam laughing my stomach out .cute comment
@jamesedmonds5693
@jamesedmonds5693 10 жыл бұрын
why not damn it up and catch the water to run through another one downhill of that one?
@Cortemus
@Cortemus 9 жыл бұрын
yeah, it looked like there was plenty more elevation drop - plenty of gravity to build up more psi. a good idea
@lucasschofield8716
@lucasschofield8716 8 жыл бұрын
+Cortemus May not have been necessary or cost viable, or perhaps to preserve the natural look of the river further downstream.
@rogerblackwood8815
@rogerblackwood8815 8 жыл бұрын
+James Edmonds Because you need elevation to create the water pressure, its called the water head and its something like 250 meters or so? If you just made a dam there it wouldnt have a fraction of the power. Imagine having a 50 gallon drum and taking the top off and filling it with water. Then take out the bung and water will flow but not at any great pressure. Now imagine a 10" pipe 200 meters long but vertical, fill it with water and you will have a shed load of pressure, which is what you need to drive the turbine. They make a feed point like 500 or more meters from the power house, and that is how you get the 25 bar pressure, or 400 psi if you prefer.
@heronimousbrapson863
@heronimousbrapson863 5 жыл бұрын
James Edmonds I think you meant, "dam it up", unless you wanted to really send the water to hell.
@b43xoit
@b43xoit 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerblackwood8815 Just look down the hill.
@user-fm3bd6qt3f
@user-fm3bd6qt3f 3 жыл бұрын
У Вас возможно купить такой комплекс в РФ сегодня
@nareshmothsara1700
@nareshmothsara1700 6 жыл бұрын
I need this 120 kW price
@desireboy34
@desireboy34 4 жыл бұрын
price is 25k usd if you want contact with me cryptolove34 telegram
@shahagro9489
@shahagro9489 3 жыл бұрын
need only generator motor, dolar price
@mortadarasool3007
@mortadarasool3007 3 жыл бұрын
كيف يعمل
@toamaori
@toamaori 11 жыл бұрын
"Would power about 375 American homes or around 700 European homes" that comment made me laugh... who is more wasteful with energy :)
@taztaz79
@taztaz79 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It true. Or about 1400 asian households..
@jonasyulledesouzayulle3300
@jonasyulledesouzayulle3300 4 жыл бұрын
Grand o pening union pacific invent energy sustentável de uma base e fundamental industy Raul cidadania .
@sharifabdul4237
@sharifabdul4237 6 жыл бұрын
Omg
@shannongibson325
@shannongibson325 6 жыл бұрын
I love use Avasva Solutions for that issue.
@sergioquitorosario4020
@sergioquitorosario4020 3 жыл бұрын
Me interesa información precio y número de teléfono x favor
@roncheetham673
@roncheetham673 3 жыл бұрын
v true , its an awful quiet thing !
@TheOriginalSycHolic
@TheOriginalSycHolic 6 жыл бұрын
your math is kinda off... not even 100 homes.. you saying that european homes only use 1kwh? *facepalms* my computer psu uses as much...
@taztaz79
@taztaz79 6 жыл бұрын
Syc holic learn the difference between 1kW and 1kWh.... My home uses around 8000kWh/ year.. 180 sqare meter house with 3 people. Thats 0.91kW continious power... So less than 1kW.....
@tlohn8272
@tlohn8272 6 жыл бұрын
He might mean 1kW, there are such PSUs for PCs
@taztaz79
@taztaz79 6 жыл бұрын
@@tlohn8272 yes i know. I have one myself. But i was referring to the difference between kW/kWh
@taztaz79
@taztaz79 6 жыл бұрын
So this turbine should be able to power more than 700 homes....
@zhongruiwang
@zhongruiwang 5 жыл бұрын
1200 * 0.5 dollar / kwh * 24 hrs * 30 days * 12 months = 5M per year......
@ctiebs
@ctiebs 5 жыл бұрын
$0.5/kWh? Where!
@alex_byrnes
@alex_byrnes 4 жыл бұрын
ctiebs probably what the greenies pay in California
@user-yl4fc8qc9q
@user-yl4fc8qc9q 8 ай бұрын
Как свами связаться я хочу построить Гес 700 кв
@gower23
@gower23 3 жыл бұрын
Guys, at the end of the day it's just a water wheel. This is an ancient method of generating power.
@generatorjohn4537
@generatorjohn4537 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of engineering went into the design and implementing of this site. You can operate and monitor units such as these remotely if necessary with modern day microprocessors.
@gower23
@gower23 3 жыл бұрын
Of course. My comment was more about the concept than this implementation. Water wheels have been around for two and a half millennia. We've moved on to splitting atoms now.
@pankeaux
@pankeaux 4 жыл бұрын
american beauty
@garybauercamper4951
@garybauercamper4951 5 жыл бұрын
P
@karimovkad1516
@karimovkad1516 4 жыл бұрын
Bad music
@cvrciko
@cvrciko Жыл бұрын
basically they dried out the whole mountain/hill/beside-above....this shouldn't be used in natural parks, etc. and the noise.
@MINEEAE
@MINEEAE 11 жыл бұрын
how many have you or will you build along that stream? if done once you could collekt that ammount of energy 20 more times... just by going down the river a few meters. how mutch of investment was this generator? ($=?) it powers 700kw, korrekt? how long does it take for self-finantiation? thank you for your effort and your Unsering my Questions!
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