Why I've REMOVED GSX again

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A330 Driver

A330 Driver

Жыл бұрын

I deleted GSX again. Here's why.
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@marcomilone3229
@marcomilone3229 Жыл бұрын
Feels like many devs are just rushing an unfinished product with msfs. Makes you realize how much effort has been put by PMDG or Fenix (or other good payware teams) and grateful for the time they have put to make it an enjoyable product and not a cashgrab like certain other addons released well before they were complete. (not only talking about Gsx)
@Mrv1960
@Mrv1960 Жыл бұрын
Like Pmdg had no problems on release. Read the forums of all the problems.
@TeamSethRules
@TeamSethRules Жыл бұрын
@@Mrv1960 at least it actually worked and only had minor issues fixed quickly with a very good support system. This program you can register for their support forum but they have to approve you, still waiting. No thought out into this whatsoever.
@tucsonlivestream3203
@tucsonlivestream3203 Жыл бұрын
Is FSDT still using Coatul? I always hated that in FSX and in P3D.
@ronaldfischer1195
@ronaldfischer1195 Жыл бұрын
FSDreamTeam has lost much reputation from me even as far back as the P3D days
@scandinavian941
@scandinavian941 Жыл бұрын
I had an issue with one of their airports, that i dwleted by mistake. Based on the emailnof confirmation i got at the purchase, i tried to re-download it, but no more active link. So i contacted Umberto, and he amswered on a very rude tone, that it was my own fault, and it was just lost. I should have paid extra fees as "insurrance" at the purchase time. Why on the marketplace as well as simmarket, is it possible to retrieve any former purchased product..for FREE, and not with FSDT?! Greed and rudeness are a very very very bad combo imo
@terblanchejordaan3822
@terblanchejordaan3822 Жыл бұрын
Just remember, from previous flightsim experience, it is NEVER the fault, reason, or problem with FSDT. It is ALWAYS something or someone else that causes a problem.
Жыл бұрын
I've been within this hobby for MANY years by now and unfortunately what you say has always been true for this developer. I remember in the past when I was reporting issues and how I 9 out of 10 times got answers back similar to what you say above. How it certainly isn't a fault within this developer's software but somewhere else. Too bad this clearly is still the case with GSX, an addon I was truly looking forward to buy and enjoy 😒
@skyhigh776
@skyhigh776 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was about to post the very same.
@danielrds
@danielrds 7 ай бұрын
yeah the gsx developer is an annoying guy ...it's never gsx fault, always p3d/msfs/fsx or the person but never GSX..very sick..i hate it .. I never swear at anyone or say rude words, I always try to be kind and honest in my words, but I always get the same answers from you.
@Jojos25
@Jojos25 Жыл бұрын
Your honest review is greatly appreciated. You saved me some money. It really speaks highly about you that you were given a free copy but still decided to tell us your honest feedback. Best regards
@almightyIrie
@almightyIrie Жыл бұрын
100% agree to that. Integrity is worth so much more than a couple of free addons, i am glad it's valued on this channel.
@nielsbos1965
@nielsbos1965 Жыл бұрын
Fsdreamteam should be fsnightmareteam.
@Micslmn
@Micslmn Жыл бұрын
The joke here is they’ve been working on this for over two years. Forget all the issues it has with functionality itself, most folks like myself can’t even get the thing to install and work correctly. As an avid user of the addon in FSX and P3d I was hopeful for the level of immersion it would bring to this sim. This was just pure lazy architecture and development and straight up ill regard for their customer base, but if you’ve been around long you know that’s how FSDTeam operates. It’s never their product that has the issue but rather the fault of the end user.
@Micslmn
@Micslmn Жыл бұрын
@@blindsight_music_ we’ve been dealing with it for years, unfortunately no one else wants to take on the task of offering a similar comprehensive product as this. Really baffling.
@DeepFutureSim
@DeepFutureSim Жыл бұрын
@@Micslmn I'd love to see MSFS do this themselves, their ground crew are the best quality humans so far. Maybe we should vote for it as top wish list.
@krflies9840
@krflies9840 Жыл бұрын
I see FSDT as the flight sim equivalent of a used car salesman who’d always argue that he has “the best price for the car” despite it being so f**ked up mechanically.
@scottmcdonaldAAL211
@scottmcdonaldAAL211 Жыл бұрын
@@DeepFutureSim Good luck getting anything out of Asobo/MS. It's much like talking to your hand.
@Richard_McDonald_Woods
@Richard_McDonald_Woods Жыл бұрын
Well done! It needed saying although it may be a little hard hitting. Let's hope that Umberto understands the goodwill implied and works to solve the concerns.
@timothykok6730
@timothykok6730 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. I've removed it also. It's an excellent idea but it looks still like a beta version. Maybe it will get better in a few months and I will try it then.
@A330Driver
@A330Driver Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed! I'm hoping for it as well. The concept in itself is very promising and indeed in P3D it was a very good addon. I'm hoping Umberto gets the issues under control and is able to issue an update soon.
@ItsJones
@ItsJones Жыл бұрын
I'm glad i waited to see others experience before buying. Honesty is one of the reasons why this channel is one of the best if not the best when it comes to flight simming.
@bjo007
@bjo007 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the honest review. I have the P3D version and was looking forward to this, but will definitely wait for a while before getting this one. I do hope FSDT takes your feedback to improve the product.
@justjase1576
@justjase1576 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your honest review! I did buy it last night and you can instantly see its not even close to a finished product, its more like an alpha release than a beta. Pity as it looks like it has big potential, but that's not what I thought I was buying "potential".
@Robmlufc
@Robmlufc Жыл бұрын
This to me looks like it breaks immersion rather than adds immersion. Thanks for the honest update.
@cptrobby5700
@cptrobby5700 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the honest review, was thinking the same, then read the manual and it worked better
@infinitewisdom9619
@infinitewisdom9619 Жыл бұрын
I agree. As many others mentioned here, your honesty is greatly appreciated. One of the first things I noticed when trying GSX Pro for the first time (besides some animation bugs and a heavy take on performance!), is that there is no dynamic sound at all. You can test this by taking your drone camera in the sim, listening to the sound of the ground handling vehicles, and flying anywhere. The sound of ground handling stays exactly the same, non-dynamic and non-spatial either, whilst you are kilometers away from the plane in a forest. Considering all the things mentioned in this video, there really is a whole lot of improvement to be made on this program. I really regret now to not have waited some time until buying this product and instead blindly trusting its history and advertisements.
@treloarw
@treloarw Жыл бұрын
Was planning to purchase it this morning based on some of the videos I've seen you making throughout my work week. Definitely going to wait. Hopefully it will improve soon.
@Hahnson
@Hahnson Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review, have heard in lots of sources that there is many problems , initialy i planed on buying today but i will wait and see if issues are fixed first
@Ashleigh_T
@Ashleigh_T Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very honest review. Since the moment it released I've only heard of issues with GSX from pretty much everyone I know that has installed it (or tried to install it). It has a lot of potential, sure, but it still feels like early beta at the moment.
@BPPUK
@BPPUK Жыл бұрын
Can confirm, it feels like beta, its all right, missing some settings and its super hard to understand how it works.
@A330Driver
@A330Driver Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@McChopper2000
@McChopper2000 Жыл бұрын
Good that it is in Beta and still comes at full price even close to the simulator or full study level aircrafts.
@BPPUK
@BPPUK Жыл бұрын
@@McChopper2000 its not beta, its full release just full of bugs.
@McChopper2000
@McChopper2000 Жыл бұрын
@@BPPUK yea that's the problem and animations look right from a 2006 game in a realistic looking game like flight simulator
@JamesGoodwin1994
@JamesGoodwin1994 Жыл бұрын
You have shown tremendous integrity with this video mate! Appreciate the honest review. Saved me alot of money
@stevenwatt2010
@stevenwatt2010 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this, you are the only youtuber who got a free copy who has giving a honest review
@flywheel8541
@flywheel8541 Жыл бұрын
I thought so much of this review quite humerous, but probably only because I managed to resist it on release. Such an honest review. Thank you.
@alexc8920
@alexc8920 Жыл бұрын
this is the only honest review about this “money grab” unfinished product. Super disappointed with other channels that reviewed this and basically lied about all it’s problems.
@skadvani
@skadvani Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a good review. I will wait till they address all the issues.
@deadpicts9712
@deadpicts9712 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your honest appraisal of GSX. I picked it up based on all the positive reviews of the pre release. I regret it as I had all sorts of issues with the interface. Don't know why you have to close it then re open it every single time you want to perform some task.
@prokopiu
@prokopiu Жыл бұрын
I never liked GSX. In P3D it was the top reason for CTDs and in half the times it did not work at the gates. I switched to Ultimate Ground Crew. I don‘t need all this passenger movement. Seeing this I am glad I did not waste my money on it. Thanks for this honest review!
@swimskim5874
@swimskim5874 Жыл бұрын
" I'll leave this uncommented for you" 10:00 The walkening begins 🤣
@pm110978
@pm110978 Жыл бұрын
This is why I never rush and buy new products 👍
@Danno-df9hq
@Danno-df9hq Жыл бұрын
Mixed feelings here. In P3D it was a necessity as it adds to the immersion and it worked pretty good, at least in my opinion. Yes, we saw a catering truck bumping into another one or something, but overall it was quite nice). So I was super hyped for GSX in MSFS2020 but it only gave me headaches including the jetway stuff etc. Let's give it some time...
@danielpena-un8vl
@danielpena-un8vl Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review, i was seconds away from purchasing. i will hold off till they refine it
@brettmcallister6635
@brettmcallister6635 Жыл бұрын
I was just about to purchase this. I will hold off. Sadly, we all expect a few bugs in flight sims, but half finished products really is inexcusable. Why are we expected to accept this, and pay for the privilege? Thanks so much for your honesty in all your reviews!
@heinzpilot
@heinzpilot Жыл бұрын
I bought this last night based on your video. I thought it would be pretty cool. I'll probably still keep it on and use it. It still adds a lot to the experience. And it wasn't very expensive of an add-on.
@portlandtwowheels1872
@portlandtwowheels1872 Жыл бұрын
You have just unleashed Umberto yelling at you via the computer. Haha
@mgut1234
@mgut1234 Жыл бұрын
Thank You For Your HONESTY
@coder236
@coder236 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the honesty on this review, Its refreshing to get and impartial review, especially when a developer gave you a free copy... I think I'll wait until some updates have been pushed out before spending out on this one.
@sky173
@sky173 Жыл бұрын
Great video and this is exactly why I will never purchase items on the MS market place. The MSFS 'encryption' isn't worth the hassle. Thanks for sharing your findings. I still hope to purchase GSX one day, but the bugs aren't worth it.
@krflies9840
@krflies9840 Жыл бұрын
“You probably ate something this morning that caused your GSX to stop working. Figure it out yourself.” That’s FSDT in a nutshell. It’s the worst customer service I’ve seen on flight simulator industry.
@jahurz93
@jahurz93 Жыл бұрын
Thought of buying this next week. Will be holding off for now. This probably needs 2 more update cycle to sort most of the mess.
@T_Dubbs
@T_Dubbs Жыл бұрын
Gah!!! If this was out a few hours earlier I wouldn’t have bought it. But I did. It looks great, but it’s just the small things that irritate me (lorries going through winglets, no passengers showing up, pushback operators turning invincible etc). I think that GSX has huge potential to be a must-have, fantastic mod. But at the moment, it feels like it’s still in testing. Hope I didn’t waste my money and hope there’s a good update soon!
@frap9965
@frap9965 Жыл бұрын
Bro same. Why im so stupid. I just always insta buy lol. I still even didnt try it yet lol.
@Tortentaenzer
@Tortentaenzer Жыл бұрын
Same here. Hope, those issues get fixed soon.
@webcodr
@webcodr Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest review! There are installation problems as well. Many customers, including myself, could not get GSX to work. After launching a flight GSX just stated "COUATL script engine not starting" and that's it. The GSX icon in the tool bar is there, but clicking it does nothing. According to Umberto in the FSDT forums, there are issues with updated files in the cloud cache servers they are using (CloudFlare). Some files are updated, some not and this incoherent state leads to errors in the execution of the Python-based scripts that drive GSX. This is a regional problem, since cloud systems like CloudFlare have servers all-over the world with multiple peerings to all kind of ISPs. But no one can say, which servers have the correct state and even if we'd know, it's not possible for the typical user to enforce the usage of those servers. (it's possible via a VPN service, but this would cost extra money) To be completly honest, that's not acceptable. I'm a senior software engineer and experienced with such caching problems. The solution of FSDT just to update the existing files is flawed. If the files have the same name as the outdated ones, services like CloudFlare can't guarantee a correct deployment on all servers in a short time period. It's over a day after the release and the files are still not updated on many servers. The same problem exists with assets (scripts, styles, images etc.) on websites, not only if they are deployed on cloud systems, the local browser caches can behave that way as well. That's why we use unique file names for each deployment of new versions (it's all automated via the build systems. Would be insane to do this manually.). That way cloud-based caches and browsers are forced to get the new files. If they won't implement a solution like this, every update could possibly destroy the GSX installation.
@fyrefitrt2
@fyrefitrt2 Жыл бұрын
I'm having the same issue.
@steveclarkemedia
@steveclarkemedia Жыл бұрын
Worrying.
@webcodr
@webcodr Жыл бұрын
Hmm, maybe my conclusion was not correct. According to the newest posts on the FSDT forums, the customers with this specific problems are also P3D users with GSX. After completly uninstalling both GSX versions and manually deleteing the AddonManager directory and re-installing MSFS GSX everything works. But as soon as the P3D version of GSX is installed, the Python scripts will crash.
@GeorgeLumkin
@GeorgeLumkin Жыл бұрын
Yep, I got super excited and then saw some reviews, all of which had bugs… I thought “ah heck it still looks cool, I’ll give it a go”. Nothing but bugs at my favourite and most frequently used airports. Your comments about the procedural errors may seem petty to some, but THIS IS what we are paying for!! GSX should be accurate as possible. And I totally agree, the crew and passengers arriving at the same time is irritating. “Parking is too small” alerts constantly, services driving through each and my aircraft other all the time, stuff just not working… Hope they can actually fix it and it’s not a “sim limitation” that we have to wait for asobo to fix, and that FSDT just couldn’t be bothered to tell everyone or wait for… Stupid me for jumping too early. £30 is not cheap these days given the way the world is!
@maltimoto
@maltimoto Жыл бұрын
Yes it is a major disgrace, I will start X-Plane now at least there are no bugs and everything works.
@kennethrobinson5572
@kennethrobinson5572 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you posted the vids on GSX. Mine crashed today trying to fly out of KLAS. My problems include: Baggage loading on an A321. It sends out a Cargo Container loader, and 2 baggage loaders. One baggage loader loads bags into the cockpit. Doors on the aircraft don’t open even when I command them to open. After doing all of the ground stuff (which takes almost an hour) I try to actually go flying. (Occurs before the crashing) I continue to get ground messages WHILE IN FLIGHT‼️ Bottom line, I’m unloading it as well, but because I purchased it, I’ll come back in a couple months and re-install it. Maybe by then they would have fixed their bugs😁
@GHHF666
@GHHF666 Жыл бұрын
You´re the man, my friend! I really love GSX in P3D, but it is not ready for prime time yet. At least one streamer who still is giving his honest opinion even though receiving a free copy. However, I still think it WILL BE good in a few weeks... until then I also would suggest to wait. By the way, 5 CTD in the Fenix (officially supported) within 60 minutes. No CTD in weeks before. After removal, same flight, everything is fine. That´s bugging me more than the baggage loading clones (could at least gave him another haircut or face to not make it that obvious...), the clipping issues (more fun than serious to me), however, passsengers moving through thin air because jetway has been disconnected again in the meantime, or walking beside the jetway, that´s immersion killing... still, the CTD are the worst. Well, have not given up on it, but Umberto needs to seriously put some more work into it. sorry. WHEN it will be working as in P3D, then it will surely become the same must have addon as it is in P3D. Until then.... wait.
@dooha333
@dooha333 Жыл бұрын
These were exactly my thoughts when I saw the reviews coming up and that's why I didn't buy it. It looks to me exactly the same as the outdated FSX version. I loved it at the time but it had it's flaws. I was genuinely surprised that it still has the same flaws and manages to even look outdated despite being in development for the last two years! This is not a new MSFS addon, it's just a ported fsx one.
@Trymon1980
@Trymon1980 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I faced yesterday issues with crashes. It was annoying but didn't think about the why. Now I know it or have a well educated guess. Have to admit, I'm also not satisfied with GSX Pro and regret spending money on it.
@shanemcgrath6270
@shanemcgrath6270 Жыл бұрын
Definitely not a perfect release but personally I have not had a single CTD whilst using this. I did expect some bugs with animations and the like but on the whole it works and provides so much immersion. Having said that I am looking forward to updates to make this better. Also great to see GSX config files going up for a number of airports.
@BerzerkaDurk
@BerzerkaDurk Жыл бұрын
I was astonished when it was released the day after your first early look. It was definitely released prematurely. Perhaps Umberto looked at his 401(k) balance, or had to buy gasoline.
@felipeturbayr
@felipeturbayr Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this honest review!
@harbihund
@harbihund Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your review. Saved me some money 😎 Happy FS2Crew camper, I think their pushback is geeat. Ground handling comes from PMDG, and everything is fine. Love your videos btw, please keep them coming 💪
@jezs805
@jezs805 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes honesty is the best policy. We've seen before products rushed out, this feels rushed out. I will certainly be waiting for more positive feedback before purchasing. Thank you for the honest review and helping those deciding to purchase.
@Ehawk_
@Ehawk_ Жыл бұрын
I have shown some interest in this however being new to simming I waited to see more. From what I've seen I don't think its worth it as of yet. For one I buy most of my airports through the market place as cba with 1 million installers for different airports ( I know its not like this but you get the point) i'm only getting external installers for planes I really want like the 737 etc. Secondly I watched a streamer today and not only did the install of the mod not work but the install broke their P3D version of the mod. As you said it seems like another thing released too early and I predict an update will come the same time as the next sim update. I'll keep my eye on this addon for sure but for now and probably the near future (next year or so) I'll pass. Thanks for the videos man really helpful learning all this Flight sim stuff.
@mancooncrest835
@mancooncrest835 Жыл бұрын
Yep...a pretty big letdown for that amount of money. Expectations not met. I was keeping it as a not very good but expensive pushback tool at first, but fell back to FS2Crew PBE now, what a pity! Anyway...thanks for the honest video! Coffee inbound!
@alexandernev24
@alexandernev24 Жыл бұрын
I was just about to pull the trigger on this purchase....but I went to your video 1st. I'm a big purchaser of fast, huge fan of their products.....but I'm going to hold off. Thanks for your honesty.
@beescan22
@beescan22 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your honest informative video, appreciate the time and effort you are putting into this channel to help us make informed decisions. Might I ask what program you’re using for pushback now, think I heard on another video you weren’t using Toolbar (think it was) any longer. Don’t know how you keep up with all these instructive videos and your IRL career as well. Thanks!
@A330Driver
@A330Driver Жыл бұрын
Undecided right now, either I'll go back to FS2Crews Pushback Express or I'll just keep using PMDGs default pushback function.
@beescan22
@beescan22 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for quick reply, really appreciate your insight and knowledge. Retired ATP, very new to simming, not computer savvy, slowly learning.
@hpharold23
@hpharold23 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, msfs brought us quality and these Devs must wants to create a shortcut worh no perfectionism
@grantwood8325
@grantwood8325 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - I purchased yesterday and can’t even get it to download properly- get a must be a firewall issue on my end - but for a non computer guy like me doesn’t tell me how to fix - emailed tech support and still no response- would think they would be all over initial tech questions at launch
@HenryMPHone
@HenryMPHone Жыл бұрын
Big potential but not ready for release! I am glad I have decided to wait. If they fix I will give it a go
@Brimmlinn
@Brimmlinn Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I mentioned in your livestream when this happened. The marketplace problems should be explicitly stated.
@Pollot
@Pollot Жыл бұрын
Disappointing. I've wanted to buy it, but all of these flaws are too much for me. Gonna wait as well. Now I understand why PMDG is taking so much time with its products.
@pm110978
@pm110978 Жыл бұрын
@@sergey79 failed big time
@jmcmillen19
@jmcmillen19 Жыл бұрын
I think I still might get it (I really like how good the pushback is and seems easier to use then better pushback when trying to set up a custom push.)however I as others have said it shows a lot about your character in how you got a free copy you still voiced your true views. You even gave it time after the true Release to allow them to fix issues. And they still haven't so I don't blame you. Let's just hope they try to fix the big issues
@pavan151
@pavan151 Жыл бұрын
HAHAHA your reaction to AVGAS 😆Made my morning. Appreciate the honest review - you are a true FS enthusiast who cares about the community and people, not one who has been sold out by product developers.
@m4rtjones
@m4rtjones Жыл бұрын
i respect your honesty
@Nareimooncatt
@Nareimooncatt Жыл бұрын
Since this was using a third party airport, are the visual problems (I.e. Walking outside the jetway) still there with the first party airports? I only have one third party airport, so being more stable with first party would be ok for my uses. The other problems like excessive times (I'm probably too wrapped up figuring out other things to notice), tug steering, and walking in front of the airplane are issues I could put up with... Assuming I notice them at all. I'm also curious if problems exist with smaller GA aircraft services, which is what I primarily fly right now.
@transair27
@transair27 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. It's most interesting listening to your analysis, then reading the comments that followed. What does stand out for me is that developers who create and sell products for, say, 30-50E/US or higher, no matter what area of expertise they are in, must meet high quality standards and customer satisfaction levels; otherwise they are taking money for inferior products. In the current case, I too think GSX has enormous potential, but thorough testing, and quality assurance processes must govern release to the public. Some developers are outstanding in this area - many are not.....Let's hope for continual improvement..
@flightsimmer9809
@flightsimmer9809 Жыл бұрын
Great video this is why i wont listen to these youtube streamers who get it for FREE then just give postiive reviews which is wrong total respect to you for being honest and showing the faults something the others dont do
@PablosCZ
@PablosCZ Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I uninstalled as well. Caused me CTD 5 times in a row. Never had CTD problem. Addon is all cool and nice, but needs a lot of work still.
@WhiteGinger10000
@WhiteGinger10000 Жыл бұрын
I haven't had any CTDs yet but when it comes to the instability of GSX, I also came across some bugs as well that made the experience much lower for me. A real shame tbh.
@bradley_bYT
@bradley_bYT Жыл бұрын
Same, no CTD’s but the small bugs are kind of annoying. And there seems to be the slightest stutter or fps hit when the program is active. At cruise its off and is fine.
@colasmulot
@colasmulot Жыл бұрын
Had some good laughs! This add-on looks promising but it seems too early to buy it for me. If in a few months it's more complete and polished then I'll most likely buy it.
@ur_round_next1216
@ur_round_next1216 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, I was thinking about getting GSX but after this video ill give it a long miss as it stands.
@A330Driver
@A330Driver Жыл бұрын
Be sure to check back after the first couple updates though! I am sure Umberto can get it under control!
@ur_round_next1216
@ur_round_next1216 Жыл бұрын
@@A330Driver Yeah i will for sure :)
@ReefAndReptileAutomation
@ReefAndReptileAutomation Жыл бұрын
Sadly agree with you. The jetway just is stuck and never moves on my end. Also keeps saying I have an update and won’t update. I have yet to see it actually do what I tell it to do properly and also i have had a series of FPS hits and CTD as well. Furthermore, maybe it is just me but on the “support” forum the developer seems pompous and unwilling to assist and blames the user every time.
@qfmusiq
@qfmusiq Жыл бұрын
Great review, I will say that I didnt have any trouble with my first attempt granted I've only had one flight. .....In my opinion, some actions in the sim we must remember is taking place simultaneously at the same time IRL. For instance the pushback is usually connected before the boarding and loading is completed. IRL the push backtug must cross the non movement line before the wing walker can clear the plane. Now for the animation issues I totally agree with you. Again I saw your issues but I myself did not have any issues.
@madsib5187
@madsib5187 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this honest video. From the beginning onwards I thought this software is way too overpriced. Hearing now all the complaints from the people makes me even more happy I haven't bought it! Good to see you are not bribable.
@TheVirtualAirlinePilot
@TheVirtualAirlinePilot Жыл бұрын
Hello Emanuel and thanks for the video and for your honesty which is really important. for me, Its interesting that the baggage loader can bend his body and move his arms during the loading/unloading process - but the signal lady cannot bend, having to walk right through the skin of the jet; And the locking pin flies up out of her hand because her arm cannot, it seems, be animated! And usually, the signal person always moves away from the aircraft on the stand side of the taxiway, NOT on the manoeuvring area side - unless there is a very good reason why not. I have sat through hundreds of pushbacks during my real life career to know how it is supposed to work. And as I have said elsewhere, the signal person has a headset connected to the box on the front of the nosewheel by a long cable which is pretty much always held in the hand as the jet moves back. Are we supposed to believe that this is WiFi? Also, note that the pushback tug when reversing into position to move forward to hook to the nosewheel - the tug wheels are facing the wrong way! As for the marshaller escorting us into the parking stand after landing, I remember that we used to wait in the taxiway for the car to arrive and turn around - not continue taxi-ing. We only taxi when the car is ready in front of us. And of course, there are many more little issues that you and others have spotted too. I will say, in FSDT's defense, that their GSX addon for FSX and P3D worked pretty well - for me at least. Yes, there were issues, but often when flying online and having spent ages preparing your flight plan and takeoff data and pre-flighting the aircraft (remember that in the Simulator, we don't get a Dispatcher or an FO - we do everything ourselves!), you often don't have time to run the full aircraft side service routine. But the basics, like baggage loading and the fuelling all worked quite well in P3D. And I especially loved to see the passengers getting onto and off the aircraft and the bus! But it would seem that there are issues with the MSFS version and it's certainly wrong to release the product with these issues - which have resulted in something of a backlash against FSDT; Which is a pity since they are a well known and trusted developer with some great scenery products which I have bought myself over the years. I fully understand your frustrations and why you have removed it. As I have said previously, I will wait for the issues to be resolved and when they are, I WILL mostly likely buy it because it looks so much better than the default (which is not bad by the way!) and think of the videos that can be made with this! MSFS2020 brings more realistic features here and Devs need to carefully look where they can take full advantage of that; They need to talk to MS/Asobo about getting access to Marketplace airports and I really hope they manage to sort out the issues, because this is a product that many of us know and love. But I believe a reputation needs to be restored here - and it will take work from the Team at FSDT to re-acquire that reputation. Thanks again and all the best - Lee (VirtualAirlinePilot.Org)
@matthowells6382
@matthowells6382 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the honest review. Was thinking it looked a bit rough around the edges from some of the preview videos that yourself and others have done. Anyway, I’m with you in not using it until it’s in a better state 👍
@Raven236
@Raven236 Жыл бұрын
I got it yesterday bugs galore, might uninstall it and go back to push back express
@talking2388
@talking2388 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being honest with this add on . I was just about to buy it. (Lol) Most of things about MSFS 2020 has just been a bunch of broken promise and smoke. It doesn't look like much has changed from previous builds of GSX. Love your Vids .
@scottmcdonaldAAL211
@scottmcdonaldAAL211 Жыл бұрын
A visually appealling product for sure! The job of programming it for MSFS cannot be easy, and integrating it with all of the add on aircraft and scenery packs had to be a Herculean task. I respect Umberto for trying, and for dealing directly with his users on his forums. That alone blows my mind, can't imagine doing that AND trying to improve/debug his products as well. Yes, he has some issues vis-a-vis customer care interaction, but I think this product has a lot of potential, as others have said, and when it works, it definitely adds to immersion.
@tucsonlivestream3203
@tucsonlivestream3203 Жыл бұрын
Is FSDT still using Coatul? I always hated it in FSX and P3D. Every time I used it something screwed up.
@A330Driver
@A330Driver Жыл бұрын
Yes they are
@maltimoto
@maltimoto Жыл бұрын
Yes. This is really 90s style. I mean the idea of MSFS is that all add-ons are cleanly programmed and use their API. If each add-on comes with its own scripting enginge, things will get out of control
@loic4018
@loic4018 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the tests. Appreciate to have the feelings of a professionnal. 👌 it's becoming a habit to see software released too soon. Money money money... as saying ABBA
@romfly669
@romfly669 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this second video with an honnest review ! I personnally think GSX holds a lot of potential, but without people with some community following them to tell it to the world and the developpers, it wouldn't evolve in the slightest. In my opinion, you did them a great service by pointing out everything that is wrong in this :)
@BernieParker21
@BernieParker21 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I’m not sure why I have to run script file called Coualt before launching MSFS. Surprised it wouldn’t connect through SimConnect of FSUIP7? What else was weird was when I loaded a 747-8 in a Heavy rated gate, it said that the gate was too small for my aircraft. I had to go and edit the gate to increase circle size for it to accept the aircraft. Will I have to do this for every gate? mmmmmm…… Still a lot of work to be done. I don’t want to spend hours configuring every gate a start at.
@DanielLanducciSpotting
@DanielLanducciSpotting Жыл бұрын
It cost me 160 money in my country haha. That's a lot of money for an addon. Humberto will have a lot of work to fix these problems or he will have to reimburse me. Earlier this morning I tested the GSX at Brussels Airport with the Fenix ​​A320. As soon as I saw the aircraft from the outside, I saw that the same cones that surrounded the aircraft on the ground, appeared in the same position, but above the wings. I tried to fix it in the configuration menu, but it didn't work. The animation of people's movement, the completely bewildered cars killed any possibility of immersion. Hey Humberto, I want to see bug fixes and product improvements.
@UniversalAvid
@UniversalAvid Жыл бұрын
I agree! Users and I also really want to see the integration of Fenix and GSX as it was with FSL. Also, did they change anything at all after they released the beta? After all the negative criticism, FSDT needs to keep working on it and fix some things.
@sunjamm222
@sunjamm222 Жыл бұрын
I did the same after 3 ctds. So went to X-Plane and compared SAM to others I wad flying with. SAM was quicker and neater. Plus the follow me car was well behaved. So for me I will wait for updates to iron out a couple of bugs for me, before gsx gets installed again.
@maltimoto
@maltimoto Жыл бұрын
Me too, after not being able to display the GSX menu I started my XP and made a 4 hour flight with absolutely no problems. MSFS has the general problem that it is buggy and add-ons are low quality cash-grabs
@briancrawley8440
@briancrawley8440 Жыл бұрын
I had decided before this video, based on your first review not to purchase. I hate immersion breakers like walking through the gear doors and driving through the wings. The product has potential, but not yet for me. Thanks for your honest reviews.
@H.Witcher
@H.Witcher 11 ай бұрын
What an honest and funny video 😄 I believe many of the issues are resolved post SU12 - do you recommend GSX Pro today?
@katalambda
@katalambda 11 ай бұрын
Nope
@user-xi6zd8jj3x
@user-xi6zd8jj3x Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting a long time for GSX to sort itself out. How does this product stand now? And any chance of you making a re-visit?
@DSKTavernboy
@DSKTavernboy Жыл бұрын
Same issue here, 2nd attempt to fly from EIDW to ELLX with PMDG 737-700, again after 1.5 hours sudden CTD. Yesterday after 2 hours. Both flights ended with CTD and I did not install anything else after installing GSX. No CTD before installing GSX since 10 months. I requested a refund, hopefully this will work. Maybe in the future I will give this program another try, because the idea is great.
@MotoFuzzi
@MotoFuzzi 5 ай бұрын
Hello, nice and honest video. Do you know whether it had improved until now? Would you recommend it now? I was thinking of getting it for my FBW A320?!!?
@A330Driver
@A330Driver 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, they did some visual updates, but many of the issues I outlined are still present. Especially the very slow and annoying working pace.
@MotoFuzzi
@MotoFuzzi 5 ай бұрын
@@A330DriverOkay, thanks so much. Happy flying! If you ever come to Málaga, we should go and have a coffee and you can show me your plane :)
@garystewart3110
@garystewart3110 11 ай бұрын
lol that simulation of the catering truck hitting the winglet is actually spot on accurate. those guys only hire people at minimum wage, and this kind of thing does actually happen.
@kristiankling2340
@kristiankling2340 Жыл бұрын
Nice to hear that im not the only one that had several CTDs... im disappointed too
@mfdc-3
@mfdc-3 Жыл бұрын
I have GSX for P3D, and enjoyed it, despite it's flaws. When this GSX Pro for FS2020 released I decided to hold off and see what experienced other simmers were reporting. Of course I understand that any new add-on has to go through it's teething fase. But I agree that this one should not have been released in the current status. I will hold off and keep following the development, hoping that it will get to a status where it actually can be enjoyed. Thank you for your honest review
@mdc048
@mdc048 Жыл бұрын
I just bought it and this video comes out.....
@maltimoto
@maltimoto Жыл бұрын
me too...literally bought it 30 minutes ago, then stumbled across this vid
@mdc048
@mdc048 Жыл бұрын
@@maltimoto tbh tho. I dont want any refund or smth. Like from this point on it can only become better I hope. There is lots of potential but obv devs do have their problems with msfs2020 rather than with P3D or FSX I believe
@FahdRiyami
@FahdRiyami Жыл бұрын
This is very nitpicky. Its only been out for what? 2 days? A lot of what seems unusual in this video is either glitches that will be fixed, or issues due to lack of optimization by the scenery dev. Scenery devs have always updated their airports to properly support GSX in the past, and I have no doubt that they will do the same this time. This will address issues like the catering trucks running into the plane. Sure, review a product for what it is. But take into consideration that almost no piece of software is launched perfect, and developers should be given credit for providing regular updates to fix issues. PMDG as an example released the -700 for MSFS with issues that would be considered deal-breakers, like issues with the rudder and the lack of an EFB. MSFS as a platform is another example, its a platform that is still in the process of maturing TWO YEARS after release. Are you calling it a flop too? Are you uninstalling MSFS? This is why its so important to use a product for a prolonged period of time before reviewing it. To call it a flop on the second day of release? lol. Give the devs a chance to fix the day 1 issues. Wait a week or two. Right now it seems like you are rushing to review it just to get clicks.
@A330Driver
@A330Driver Жыл бұрын
Have you watched the video to end end? As I said in the video: All those bugs are "acceptable" provided they get updated. That my sim however crashed to desktop on 5 our of 6 flights is not acceptable and this led me to the decision to uninstall". Normally I'd be with you that nee Addons simply need their time to grow and bugs can of course he expected. Heck, I put ten new bugs PMDGs bugtracker over the last two days. BUT if the product causes so many crashes to desktop that I am not able to use the sim anymore AT ALL then that's a red line. How shall I wait and give it a few weeks if I'm not able to complete a single flight in that day? Surely you'll agree that that's a problem which needs an IMMEDIATE solution, right?
@FahdRiyami
@FahdRiyami Жыл бұрын
@@A330Driver Have you considered that not everyone is facing CTDs? I for one am not, and there only a handful of complaints on their forum complaining about CTDs, mostly at very specific airports. Yet here you are telling an entire audience to avoid this product because you have CTDs. And judging by the comments here, that effect is clear. For you, especially since you are part of a beta team at PMDG, I would have expected you to be more understanding of day 1 bugs, and to encourage patience. You even said at the end of the video that you will be doing a review once its stable on your system. So what was the purpose of this video? You basically just reviewed it. You rushed to release this video for clicks. I expected better from you. What I will agree with you is that they need to do a better job with their product descriptions and be more specific as to what works, what doesn't, and what relies on third party developer input.
@FahdRiyami
@FahdRiyami Жыл бұрын
@@sergey79 That isn't true. The same way it's not true to say that the PMDG 737 for MSFS has been in development for years yet its only a port from an old tech sim. Yes, some assets have been reused, but a lot of work goes into mitigating SDK limitations.
@Flying_Shamrock
@Flying_Shamrock Жыл бұрын
when you prepare for departure the jetway goes away i think the long wait was the pushback crew waiting for the jetway to move but it didnt!!!
@yta7777777
@yta7777777 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Valuable as a review, but *very* funny too :) One of my favorite videos! Hilarious!
@xxxxjet1982xxxx
@xxxxjet1982xxxx Жыл бұрын
I watched so many reviews before buying this, that stated it was a 'must buy day one'. I wish I had seen your video a little earlier as I agree with you. It's an early BETA at full price. Very disappointed and will not trust add ons from this developer in future.
@CaptVirtual
@CaptVirtual Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the majority of reviewers who are given copies are rarely honestly critical of products because they want more in future and want to be liked/popular.
@akinsides
@akinsides Жыл бұрын
Same here. I'm definitely going to wait for NG's reviews from now on.
@TeamSethRules
@TeamSethRules Жыл бұрын
@@akinsides you saw the 2 earlier videos released before this one didn’t youu? This wasn’t the first video and in the first 2 it was all positive! Credibility lost unfortunately.
@pacitonito1903
@pacitonito1903 Жыл бұрын
@@TeamSethRulesI mean, in those 2 first videos, he didn't have enough time with the addon to accurately point out its flaws yet. Or that's what I'm guessing.
@TeamSethRules
@TeamSethRules Жыл бұрын
@@pacitonito1903 well perhaps he should have before saying how good it was. I really like this guys videos but don’t try and take credit for saying how bad it is when you originally spruke up your free copy which ultimately results in people buying it. I’ve wasted my money with this unfortunately and feel so ripped off. Sorry if I’m pissed off but sick and tired of bad cheap and rushed products where they use you tubers to sell them by saying good things when they are just garbage like this is.
@philipg6463
@philipg6463 Жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate your videos and honest views however on this one I wish you told us what you are telling us now much earlier during your pre release reviews. I bought GSX yesterday and I am not too happy with it and now even more after seeing your honest thoughts today..too late for me. I would have waited. I know ultimately it is up to us what we purchase or not but I usually always watch reviews before I purchase anything.
@srsykes
@srsykes Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comments. I was looking for some information on "good" MSFS addons when I ran across your video. After seeing your experience I certainly will not be buying this product. I have neither the time nor the money to waste on products that seem not to care about the customer.
@XkAp1
@XkAp1 Жыл бұрын
Did you try the latest update? Many bugs are fixed and there are a big bunch of ini files for different airports on flightsim.to already.
@Alexcarpevideo
@Alexcarpevideo Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honest opinion I was about to buy it but considering your video I will not right now I think for more than 30€ everything need to be almost perfect and that is not the case !
@bravetoss
@bravetoss Жыл бұрын
I was going to buy it right before I stumbled upon your video. I don't mind some procedural thing are not quite right as there is no other app which would bring that level of immersion. But CTD are really the dealbraker. MSFS is brittle as it is, no need to add to the instability of the sim. Thank you for saving me some money.
@cpalmer41
@cpalmer41 Жыл бұрын
I wish this would have been released about 3 hours ago before i purchased it. Ive had several CTD since installing GSX.
@DuncanCardew
@DuncanCardew Жыл бұрын
You're lucky you didn't get an answer from Umberto, I sent him an email to try to get my programme to actually download, he said "Of course it's the servers, haven't you seen the KZbin videos?" quite a lovely response. Someone else sent him an email and he said "let me lower myself down to your brain level" he's awful
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