ATR 72 & 42 Tutorial 7: Landing, Approach; Descent | Real Airline Pilot

[@cubingwithcarl4572]

Timestamps for myself: *Descent* *------ Below 10 000 Feet **1:30** ------* Landing Lights ON Seatbelts ON Cabin Pressure CHECK ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ Watch out OVERSPEED - 2:30 - 3:04 *------ Shortcut **3:20** - **3:50** ------* DTO Waypoints *------ Below 6000 ft **4:03** - **4:30** ------* Speed 220 KT ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ HDG Sel, ILS 1 & 2 ON - 4:58 - 5:09 Runway Course Heading - 5:10 - 5:28 QNH SET *------ ILS **6:00** - **7:44** ------* QUICK Descent - 6:02 - 6:31 LOC & Glide Slope captured - 6:36 Auto Speed FMC - 6:40 15 Flaps Down Below Markers - 6:58 *------ FINAL **7:50** - **8:55**------* DISCONNECT AUTOPILOT Missed Approuch Altitude SET Gear DOWN Last Flaps DOWN PWR MGT - Set to TAKEOFF *------ LANDING **9:09** - **10:15** ------* Flare at 20 FT

[@sushiat]

One thing that can help to slow it down during the approach (until the bug gets fixed) is to verify that after selecting TO power that the prop NP% actually goes back up to 100%, if not move the condition levers into the override position. That helps quite a bit if ATC asked you to keep the speed up for a jet behind you, happened to me yesterday on vatsim :)

[@mscigniewrudzinski5053]

From what i've experienced, you have to put a lot of forward pressure after landing when using reversers because the plane will want to pitch up quite a bit.

[@A330Driver]

Strange, I never felt that. For me it's during takeoff to prevent an early rotation.

[@mscigniewrudzinski5053]

@@A330Driver I have to do it during takeoff as well, maybe I mess something up when trimming on the approach.

[@SyTrades]

yes i get this too, my last landing had a wheelie from too much rev thrust, its far too strong

[@lkslokinhow]

A big thank you for providing this fine tutorial for us! You're great!!

[@denisy6]

your series on the ATR are sooooooooo good! thank you so much!

[@yams900]

Always interesting information from a real pilot :) My challenge is now reducing the speed early enough, so that you don't end in a big rush just before landing. Suppose you could use hold to reduce altitude and speed ? I haven't trusted VNAV quite yet, seems it's late with TOD. Need to practice more, manual VS of 1,500 ft/min works great, use calculator when to start the decent. I'll usually make it 5nm earlier, enough for slowing down further. It's a bit like flying DC-6 :)

[@flyingpedal]

Great Pilot! Great Communicator!!

[@aayushkartikey7107]

Brilliant Video, Firstly to say. Just had a doubt, don't you set the Power Management straight to TO once gear is selected down, since this actually prepares you for a possible Go Around, and also compensates for the drag that the gear produces?

[@funkydrumming]

The main reason In the real world is to, arm the ATPCS in case of engine failure.

[@chrisadish]

Very good landing tutorial!!❤

[@paulwilson8367]

Using VS in the descent is pretty different. In the Boeings, VS stands for very seldom. It will take some practice to do those mode changes near the airport.

[@teedot1186]

How do you Usually control your decent if you're not using Vertical Speed at some point?

[@dash8dave476]

Thank you very helpful.

[@simonpalmas7403]

Thank you so much for your videos! Is it normal That the "banana" altitude intercept arc doesn't appear on my ND on climb and descent? Is there a button to switch on or is it a bug? Thank you for all!😊

[@camhackett44]

Yeah, I don’t get it on mine either and I’ve been wondering

[@bwlucas]

Thanks for another great tutorial series. I somehow keep one wheeling every other landing, some paint missing from the wing... I need some practice, not sure what I'm doing wrong just yet. For go arounds, flaps 15, throttle to the notch, and press the TO button on the throttles the correct procedure for this plane?

[@funkydrumming]

Stay close to Vapp, start the flare at 20 feet and bring the power levers back slowly. For a go around, press the button(s) on the PL, move the PL past the notch into the ramp, select flaps to 15, once positive rate is established select the gear up, and ask for HDG or LNAV, then IAS.

[@sithiradulanjithgalhenaged6974]

I have a small question. I have noticed that when you controll the aircraft it is not as jumpy or sensitive as it is with me. Is there a setting or sensitivity you adjusted. Thank you. I am using the Thrustamster TCA sidestick.

[@11clarkm]

When I have an RNAV approach loaded in the FMC, I don't get a TOD marker, and it doesn't allow me to descent via VNAV. Can you help me please?

[@rickb1428]

Great tutorial series! Can you explain why you leave VNAV and use VS that last bit? I don’t understand exactly

[@A330Driver]

Because VNAV in the current version is still a bit bugged and wouldn't guide us in properly. Needs an update and then should be usable all the way to the end.

[@teedot1186]

Still seems to be Buggy for me.

[@tableguy28]

Can you do a go-around tutorial?

[@A330Driver]

Yes, once I am back home in a couple days.

[@CMDRRustyDog]

When you selected the Course by turning the CRS knob, where is it displayed so that you know what it's getting set to ?? EDIT: Never mind, I found it. It's under the altitude tape and QNH setting on the PD. Also at 6:11 you said you were selecting "Speed Hold" mode, yet you pressed IAS and not SPD HOLD. So did you mean Indicated Air Speed? Sorry just a little confused with that one.

[@Boradumir]

Refering to a real world pilot the speed hold button isn't working and will be for future technical updates of the ATRs kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWHHk51ne617jNk

[@Jezza640]

Anyone else having trouble entering a hold in the MCDU? My plane always ignores the hold and just goes in a random direction after it should enter the hold, doesn't even follow the original nav mode when this happens.

[@bakarkaka22]

How can you do an Open decent? Without VS or VNAV? I fly A320 so i use open decent all the time but this is confusing

[@McWaters12]

I was flying in the updated aircraft today, and I couldn't get a VNAV mode to arm when pressing the VNAV button after climbing to cruise. Any idea why?

[@A330Driver]

No idea, sorry.

[@McWaters12]

@@A330Driver thank you for the quick reply. I'll fiddle with it more

[@kenilkhambhaita3805]

Did you figure it out?

[@McWaters12]

@@kenilkhambhaita3805 no unfortunately

[@gregorybentley5707]

​@@McWaters12 this usually indicates you may have missed a step in the FMC programming. Make sure you have a cruise level set in the FMC, fuel and weights, etc

[@matleb92]

how did you get the TOD? don't know how to get it up

[@x2theb155]

Thanks a lot for the series! Great tutorial. One question! I had the issue at descent that I got into overspend with the ATR 42. But even after I reduced the speed I couldn’t leave the „pitch hold“ mode. The flashing warning on the display was „select LNAV“. Which was active. Is that a bug or did I do something wrong?

[@A330Driver]

Did you reduce your speed to below 245 knots? It has a small safety margin build in before you can engage VNAV again when you overspeed.

[@dyeahna]

Hi my friend what happened to pmdg 737 on Xbox my friend I thought it would be arriving end of April ? 😢

[@nicka8718]

I’ve been having an issue where the magenta speed bug stays at 170 knots no matter where I am in flight. Climb, cruise, and descent. Not sure what’s going on

[@A330Driver]

Are you sure you actually levelled the plane off at cruise level? Not a hundret feet below? Also the power selector is set to CRZ and not CLB?

[@nicka8718]

@@A330Driver Yep set the selector to CRZ, and I was at my cruising altitude not above or below.

[@caviation888]

Can someone help me? When I am cruising altitude and have selected an RNV approach, there is no TOD marker, and there is no vertical path showing does anyone know why this is

[@Spudsmachenzie1]

RNAV doesn’t work current state

[@yams900]

I've been hitting the tail lately, ha, ha !

[@pavelvajner8755]

Thanks. Any idea why my TOD move towards the destination when I decrease target altitude? 🤔

[@A330Driver]

Probably still too far out from the TOD? There's something in the manuals that if you select a lower altitude more than 40NM (I believe... not sure) out the FMC will simply lower the cruise altitude.

[@pavelvajner8755]

@@A330Driver No, I am quite close to the TOD, but all I get is the sound the plane makes when approaching target altitude and the TOD point moves towards the target airport as I lower the selected altitude. 🤷‍♂ Btw. according to the PERF page, the plane seems to be in approach mode.

[@alexandermorin560]

For some reason my plane always climbs right past the assigned altitude and when I change the altitude with VNAV set before descent it just moves my TOD on the map way closer to the airport. Anyone else having this not match the video?

[@Spudsmachenzie1]

Yup, same

[@alexandermorin560]

@@Spudsmachenzie1 turns out it was the STD setting bug. Just had to click B above the transition altitude I had set.

[@Spudsmachenzie1]

@@alexandermorin560 could you explain a bit more what you’re referring to?

[@Terrantulla]

Sometimes when I am at VNAV ALT and I preselect lower altitude, the airplane starts immediately pitching down instead of at TOD. Anybody has a clue what I might be doing wrong?

[@McWaters12]

My vnav always does that too. Not sure why. I also can’t get vnav to engage once I reach cruise without changing the altitude.

[@dirtycasper]

Is the ils frequency auto or do you have to enter it?

[@tombulva]

Thx, Thx, Thx ;-)

[@paulwilson8367]

I'm not great in ATR yet, and I find that I struggle to read the tiny displays, which I do not doubt in the real airplane are not so small. But an issue I keep having is, on final, with A/P on and fully configured, the airplane starts going below the glideslope. That's happened to me at 2 different airports. I'm not too slow, so I don't know why it would do that. I click off the A/P, add power and raise the nose, that's all I know how to do, but it's like being caught in a microburst and the plane wants to go down. I know, that can't be right. Perhaps I am too accustomed to the Boeings. But why would it drop below the G/S with the A/P on? I enjoy the ATR and the sound of the turboprops. Love the lower altitudes for sight seeing, which is what MFS does the best.

[@callmehost7594]

Whenever i start to decend my throttle refuse to idle even though in the cockpit it shoes them in the idle poistion. Im on xbox and i use the airbus quadron and side stick does anyone know how to fix this?