78. Ryan Waller and Heather Quan - The Infamous Interrogation

[@saragrad8134]

Him repeatedly saying he wants to sleep is one of the biggest signs of a concussion. The detective and police department need to be held accountable. Very sad story.

[@janewaysmom]

Yes, 100%. Also, even if you don't know the signs of a concussion (which, in my opinion, should definitely be something that police are trained on, since they get a ton of people through that have been in fights), it should be clear from the way Ryan keeps saying he doesn't know and even him saying his highest education was 8th grade that there is SOMETHING up with his mental state. I don't know why they haven't called in a doctor yet, and I'm at 18 min. If you're a criminal, wouldn't you try to throw investigators off your tail? Instead of whining and saying "I don't know" over and over? Why not check his story that Heather is a girl dating someone else against people he would've known back then? I bet if we saw the footage of him trying to talk in the beginning, we'd be even more fuming angry.

[@janewaysmom]

@traybern I'm guessing the previous person was only partway through when they commented.

[@dlujan1984]

​@traybernxa v. X9z 9@ &😊 ¤¤ s u

[@brookerramos]

My first thought, how could they not realize he needed medical attention? If someone’s not making sense and has a huge black eye… likely the blow messed up their brain.

[@rh2146]

Ryan was actively dying. Cop should had taken him immediately to the hospital

[@TRaUMaLLaMa_]

I worked in law enforcement for 8 years. We ALWAYS had to contact medical personnel immediately if anyone in custody had physical injuries or even just had a medical complaint. Visible injuries being ignored is unacceptable, this is horrendous.

[@klaireallen7008]

This was the first thing I thought about when they found Ryan

[@Tron4JC]

I thought the same as well.

[@katrinabecker-gedge165]

I’m a pre-med student, as soon as he said the first confusing statement I knew in my gut it was brain damage… these Police obviously had no training 😭

[@Evy_-wu4ne]

What are the effects of not treating that right away? I'm very interested genuinely ✨

[@addisongibson8037]

@@Evy_-wu4ne more time with which the brain is bleeding is more damage and swelling, resulting in less and less function of said part of the brain. if he would’ve gotten medical attention sooner (especially 2 days) he most likely wouldn’t have had such severe seizures and lived a much longer life, but who knows it’s just hypothetical

[@slaybial1]

I'm not and I knew right away. These cops need to get fired.

[@cindymunoz6327]

Say it again and again and again.

[@qalba3016]

No way no no no

[@angelica6827]

How could you not tell he wasn’t “right in his mind” during the interrogation? He wasn’t making sense from the beginning. That’s when you bring in doctors, nurses, emts, etcs… into the picture to check him out. I don’t know what “profiling” this was, however, profiling the boyfriend and/or husband right away isn’t okay.

[@meganoreo1839]

Exactly

[@lwillard2009]

As soon as he said he was shot after all that confusion I knew he was shot. Bullets get lodged in parts of the skull a lot. It's like he got a partial lobotomy by the bullet.

[@junekoslak3502]

The way you guys tell these victims stories are so respectful and amazing.

[@lpsmadgirl23]

Throughout the whole video I thought he had a concussion, my heart is broken to know what truly happened, he was truly a dead man walking

[@samantharichardson9356]

This story is heartbreaking. Ryan is a hero. Just imagine if he hadn’t spelled it out for them what would of happened?! Arizona owes him so much more. Not only were lacking responsibility in the interrogation room they lacked the ability to take responsibility in a courtroom! Lack of justice all around and so very unfair!

[@thewallerfamily9134]

We did have a lawsuit. Please watch Monsters. The Ryan Waller Story. Don Waller Ryan’s Dad❤️

[@sherylF5610]

@@thewallerfamily9134 I only just learned of Ryan's story today, Mr Waller. I am so sad to learn that this happened to Ryan and to Heather as well. It is shocking.

[@Tron4JC]

@@thewallerfamily9134I just learned of this yesterday. So sorry about your loss!!! Just awful police work all around from the moment they found him.

[@rawxane]

​@@thewallerfamily9134 you're one of the most brave family I've ever known. My heart ache just thinking about what happened to your son. I've lived through something where justice protected a member of the police, so the first thing I thought is thank God it was all filmed, I live in France and there's not as much cameras in police stations, policemen don't wear bodycams because it's not mandatory. I said to myself that I'm sure you would've never known the truth about this night if it wasn't filmed, they would've said that your son said he was okay and refused help or some lie as we know they make to save their skin. Never taking responsibility, never coming back on their statement, a lot of policemen (not all of them of course) are in the police because they love having the power over people, not for their love of justice, those policemen would rather die to accept that they're human too, that they sometimes make mistakes, that they can be wrong. Unfortunately you see this behavior in all the branches of law, and in medecine too may I add. I don't know your family personally but I'm glad we today have the technology to talk like that, that you can share your story in comments and that you can write your truth for all to see. All of my thoughts go to your family, if you ever need anything, need to talk about anything or just say hi, share pain or want to get your mind out of pain for a moment I can send you pictures of France or talk to you about anything. My social media accounts all have the same name @ rawxane like here I wish you everything good you need to heal, I wish you peace in those hard times, and I hope and wish for the rest of your family to be healthy, find joy in life and never ever suffer again. ❤

[@yaoyuandolphins]

I cried, I just can’t, poor Ryan sat in his apartment confused for 2 days and then the police came, not rescuing him but threw him in interrogation. I’ve been listening to your podcast, for once I wish the victim was dead at the scene. Rest Ryan.

[@iulia.bianca.b]

I had such a mix of sadness and anger for what happened to him, seeing him sitting there in such disconfort with bullets in his head and then dying years later after 10 years of suffering, that I cried out loud and screamed trying to explain to my boyfriend why I was such a crying mess... Damn. His story is one of the most tragic I've ever heard.

[@abobo001]

This is 100% negligence in my opinion. I'm an Athletic Trainer and have treated patients with concussions. From the start of this story, I was screaming at my phone, "it's a brain injury! Get him to the ER!" I have seen football players act like this with a concussion, let alone a bullet in their head, and that's a medical emergency. I feel so bad for Ryan and his family.

[@crispy_panda]

I actually saw Mr.Ballen talk about this case. With his version and your version this paints the whole picture on how irresponsible the detectives handle the situation. Ryan didn't need to go through all that.

[@mandylynnhoff]

I just came here from there too!!!

[@julissarubii]

you guys should have an opposite day where garret tells the story

[@aLuna42]

There was one, in patreon

[@lwillard2009]

He should give the next Gabby Pettito update because he seemed really into that one.

[@julissarubii]

@@lwillard2009 yeaa

[@Moonandsun09]

@@aLuna42 what episode is it on patreon? Because I can't find it

[@restygrey3915]

This is literally the most insane true crime story I've heard.

[@andijoneshamilton1197]

Me too. Really!

[@ariannarwal9511]

I literally cried when I heard this story, the fact that he was just walking around with his girl dead next to him just makes my skin crawl I feel so bad

[@Kylieee8278]

All of the victims stories are heartbreaking and normally I can handle it, but this one made me cry. It’s so sad to think of him sitting there in pain.

[@elizabethpencek5285]

So sad.. I cry every single time I hear about Ryan. He is a true hero and an inspiration 😢❤❤

[@kimberlynieto6371]

WOW! Can’t believe how irresponsible the police were! From the beginning of you explaining the interrogation anyone would be able to tell that he was in need of medical attention ASAP!!! Just from seeing how bad the black eye was, suspect or not, you could tell that there was damage done and help was needed!! This is a case I have never heard before, love your channel 🤩

[@sandirhodes9126]

LOVE you two! Small point...He was not handcuffed by police; he actually handcuffed HIMSELF while alone in the room! Even weirder!

[@jneenie7910]

Most likely brain injury from the bullets

[@sandirhodes9126]

@@jneenie7910 yes, I just pointed it out because she was assuming he'd been handcuffed by police, but it was actually another piece of weird behavior they didn't pay attention to

[@elizabethpencek5285]

Yep even weirder and the cops didn't even say anything to him about it or bring it up. Just shows you how bad they were at their job that night. Poor Ryan

[@shakiramathis]

It’s so frustrating that the detective kept pushing him when he’s so clearly lost

[@iterations-graphics]

I'm 18 minutes in and I think Ryan needs to go to the hospital before the interrogation. I think he needs to get an evaluation for his injuries before they proceed. He may have had a head injury that could be affecting his coherence

[@tiffanidonnelly7107]

Every story you guys do is heartbreaking. This one had me crying. I pray some justice is brought to his family.

[@AdonisQue]

I realised what was going on like a third of the way through and it was so heartbreaking and frustrating to watch them not help him. Once you realise, you can't miss it.

[@TheIttyBittyZiti]

I cannot believe this case is even real! I can’t help but wonder if he would have still remembered what happened had he received emergency surgery right off the bat

[@althea7210]

No, not saying it wasn’t messed up they didn’t get him medical attention, but damage was done. I understand the anger toward cops, but they didn’t shoot him or Heather. The criminals are an afterthought & that’s horrible.

[@akilahyaacine7577]

@@althea7210 damage was done yes but with brain swelling damage keeps going and every second counts he already had 48 hours of damage but to add six? Probably killed him even faster. He should’ve been checked out on the scene with his injuries before they took him away

[@tonyasherrell3120]

Wondering if he had went straight into surgery, would Ryan have remembered his “KILLERS” This is sooooooo sad… S.I.P. Ryan and Heather

[@nataliealbrecht189]

as a nurse i pretty much imediatly thought he must have gotten a really bad brain injury with the way he was talking and acting delirious and confused. i think it is not okay that he didn‘t recive medical excamination earlier on even as a potential suspect. poor guy

[@tebetheia]

Wow this has to be the saddest story I've ever heard. Ryan is truly a hero, may he rest in peace. I hope his family and Heather's family gets the justice they deserve 😢 Thank you for sharing it so eloquently

[@valeravin6601]

I'm half way through and it's annoying to me how the officer keeps interrogation a person who is obviously not right in his mind. Like, when do you draw the line and seek medical help for the guy? You can always continue this later, no?

[@carloscastro2480]

The reason I love watching these videos is because you guys don’t have adds in your videos👍🏼 keep it up guys! Good material, good chemistry, and great narrating voices!

[@kbrookep9632]

My brothers and i followed this case when it started being publicized. Glad you guys covered it

[@Sky2theRim]

This is one of the saddest cases ever, the cops and state should hang their heads in shame, Ryan deserves justice

[@kerryholden7455]

My goodness poor Ryan I’ve cried almost all the way through this episode. I cannot believe the police department are not held accountable however given recent revelations with ref to police I’m not surprised. RIP Ryan & Heather I hope you’re happy together in the afterlife xxx

[@DeannaDenise13]

This story is heart breaking on so many levels. Ryan was a true warrior. In his horrible state, he was able to not only survive those couple days, but to also retain a bit of info to capture the monsters who did this. May Heather and Ryan rest in peace.

[@mckennabrewster1920]

I just wanna say, you two are the sweetest and it’s clear through the camera how genuine your love is. You two deserve all the happiness and success that comes your way and more ♥️

[@pillowfight73]

I already thought something was up when I saw how bad his eye was but then when he said he got shot in the eye I Definitely KNEW he needed to be checked ASAP

[@dianeperez9631]

This was the case that got me hooked on your podcast, saw it on TikTok and came to KZbin to watch the whole thing. It’s such a sad case but you covered it so well.

[@xo.neverneverland]

This may be one of the most heartbroken cases I have heard... and I've heard a lot. Wow. I'm so sad for both victims and their families. Again just...wow

[@Bhavishah8]

I love how u give more attention to the victim than the perpetrators... thank you so much for these..

[@Jasmadisen]

I found you guys through TikTok and now I’m hooked! Love you’re content

[@louisegoring5670]

Started with one video... Now I've binged them all.. so easy to listen to..

[@dylanh9281]

I would like garret to read for the 100th episode. Gives him time to prepare and a reason so do it

[@alxfonso4924]

ahahah great idea

[@msalien6375]

This one was insane! I can’t believe that poor guy was literally suffering scared and confused and literally wasn’t able to say I need help and instead they were more worried about asking questions

[@370H5SV]

Pretty sad how interrogaters don't have citizens best interests in heart. That poor man

[@simarrito]

This is a tough one. I went from laughing to literally crying in the middle of the street with this one. God. Traumatizing.

[@superinquisitor]

why were you laughing? none of this was funny.

[@alexislee6830]

I'm sitting here nearly in tears omg rip I am glad tbh this poor boy has passed tbh instead of living blind I hope he is at total peace with his girlfriend 😣

[@simarrito]

@@superinquisitor Of course it's not. Now I know. But there were parts when I didn't know the guy had a bullet in this brain and his responses were just funny. The way they told the interrogation part was funny to me until it wasn't.

[@jessicaohare2808]

As a healthcare worker…I am so mad hearing this story.. my husband and I were watching this and I’m like this sounds like a typical head injury…. Sure enough…. So sad!

[@TruthseekerSweden]

Ryan Waller police interview is one of the most heartbreaking videos I ever seen. I'm so angry at the slow-minded dumb policeman. Poor Ryan❤️

[@epolojr]

I love the way you guys always honor the memories of the victims.

[@deja3963]

Ooh I just heard this story a few days ago. It was wild. I don’t get how they didn’t see that. They were looking at his face for hours!

[@jennifernichole7317]

It seriously irritates me how long it took the interrogator to realize he wasn’t in his right mind and needed medical attention 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@carr02448]

Him wanting to sleep, babbling and not making sense and his eye was that bad … it took them forever after the fact he said he was shot…. Smh 🤦🏻‍♀️ such a crazy sad story )-:

[@laurafullmer6952]

I’ve been listening to your podcast for two days and I’m hooked. You both have voices that are so pleasing to the ear. And your stories are so detailed Keep up the great work 🙌🏼

[@samanthamathison]

From the start I felt like he was injured, this is literally the saddest story, I fell so bad for him and also how did the detective not noticed???!

[@Tryreading]

They’re not alone, I do heating and air conditioning installation and I listen to y’all and other true crime channels! The storied help the day fly by!

[@Vanessa-vv]

Wow this has to be one of the craziest episodes😭 I feel so bad for what he had to go through for such a long period of time

[@pamepampa]

I am so addicted to this videos! I love how you tell the stories!!! If you accept suggestions I would recommend the Lisa McVey story... it's mind blowing! Sending you love from Argentina! Keep it up guys!

[@jimtate4479]

I'm a New subscriber and enjoy your content. This is a very heart breaking case. You may already know by now but when Ryan walk in to irrigation room and set down at the table he knocked the handcuffs attached to the table it rattled and Ryan was confused he decided to handcuff himself to the table no one was is in the room but him at that point. To Ryan Waller's and Heather Quan's Family my thoughts payers go out too you all and May you get strength and peace of mine. Payton and Garrett thank you for your loving compassionate Content you two are amazing!!!

[@jneenie7910]

Remember listening to this case a while back, it was so sad 😭 if they had looked at his injuries properly they would have seen his gun shot wounds. Time was of the essence & they could have made a huge difference in saving his eyes etc I know that it looked like he did it, I just wish someone would have been more willing to look past him as a prime suspect.

[@carlynoto1281]

I knew the second I saw his face something so serious was wrong. I feel so so terrible for heather and Ryan and their families.

[@jennifergrimes3172]

Holy cow!! I can’t believe this crazy case! I love you guys and look forward every week to watching/listening to a new case!

[@oxalyscruz4252]

Oh my gosh I literally recommend this case to you guys before discovering you had covered it, can’t wait to watch your take, this is such a heartbreaking case!

[@kennadybrumbaugh3762]

i loved this episode so much and i’m caught up on spotify so now i’m watching all of them on youtube 😭😭 i’m so obsessed with payton and ol’ gary 🖤

[@nay8608]

the way they should’ve immediately got him medical help tho

[@BettyTruslove]

This case upsets me so much 😢 poor boy and his poor family. Tragic 😞 I hope one day they get real justice.

[@cassielynn1023]

Wow I’ve never heard this case before. I immediately thought he had a concussion, I never expected him to have been shot. This is absolutely heartbreaking.💔 He should have been checked out at the scene! Those detectives dropped the ball BIG TIME & that lawsuit never should have been dropped. 😞😞 I pray Ryan & Heathers families find peace.

[@Becomingless]

You guys make my work day go so much faster 💛 Love this!

[@alyssasade3665]

lol i was like 2 min into the video and I was like "ohh they should do that one about the guy who the police assumed killed his gf but didn't notice the bullet wound on his face..." I love this podcast!!!!

[@spaghettios8768]

Yay another super fun episode of MWMB can’t wait for the 10 seconds ❤️

[@CandiceMartinez1111]

I knew it!!!!! Once he said he was shot and acting strange I knew he wasn’t lying

[@laurafullmer6952]

I just started listening to you podcast yesterday and I’m hooked. I normally listen to dateline and a few others. I’m big on how pleasing voices are and if you can keep me interested. You both have great voices for broadcasting and I pray that some day you will make it to television broadcasts. Not to mention you are an adorable couple. God bless you both and keep up the great work🙌🏼😍

[@tiffanycrubaugh3520]

Wow. This story is insane and heartbreaking.

[@ifer64]

How do we get ahold of Ryan’s family and just tell them we feel that this was f’d up? Sending love to Ryan’s family!!!💓💓💓💓

[@thewallerfamily9134]

You just did! ❤️❤️❤️ Thank you Jennifer!❤️❤️❤️ Don Waller (Ryan’s Dad)

[@stephaniebell2538]

@@thewallerfamily9134I just saw this and it is heartbreaking. My deepest condolences

[@endless_summer_rose]

​@@thewallerfamily9134this was horrible, I'm so sorry

[@thewallerfamily9134]

@@endless_summer_rose Thank you for your support! ❤️

[@dorota_borowska]

Omg I'm so frustrated. So sorry for those two and theirs families. Thank you for your podcast. Greetings from Poland.

[@LiliM73]

You guys are so awesome! Love from Portugal 🇵🇹 ❤️

[@ruibrum2]

E eu que pensava que era o único português 😅😅😅

[@LiliM73]

@@ruibrum2 eu também pensava! 😂

[@christyspragins7874]

Hey guys!!! I love watching you two and I’m a huge true crime fan❤️ are y’all your episodes not available on here? It only goes back to like 30 and then jumps to 42??? Where can I find all the rest? I want to go back to the VERY FIRST ONE!

[@justine3966]

I literally watched this case the other day and still watched your video 😭😭 such a sad case, police being incompetent AGAIN!!!

[@justine3966]

Name a case where the police WEREN’T incompetent, ILL WAIT

[@thegirlvictoria408]

I found you via Snapchat in this clip and had to see more! I'm glad I came across your video on snap cause I then looked you up on KZbin! New subscribe here 😊 love how you told this story! And I appreciate how you don't hide your notebook! I love to see the notes because it's not easy to remember all of this, and that's okay! You have a lot of information to provide! ❤ much love and positive vibes your way! 🙌🏼

[@MorganiteMoon98]

So heartbreaking. My heart hurts for him and his family, and Heathers, oh my god...

[@Mytutorialvideos1]

Oh my gosh. I just commented how much I love your podcast without waiting to finish this episode and 28:00 gave me chills. I feel so so bad for him. Okay, let me go back and finish.

[@djviyezofficial]

Saw you guys on my TikTok Feed so i decided to follow, Just wanted to say keep up the good work and I subscribed before 65,000 subscribers!!!!

[@charleesegrest9381]

Does anyone else just think that peytons voice is soothing!!! Not to be weird or anything lmao but it just makes the podcast/videos so much better! 😂😂😂 absolutely love y’all! Thank y’all for the videos!!

[@erikacutie007]

My first thoughts seeing his face & hearing him be so incoherent was that he had a concussion, they should’ve sent him to get checked out first and foremost that was disgustingly negligent. :(

[@paolavallejoadame]

I love your channel! Thank you all the research you put into it.

[@noimdirtydanx]

babbling and then says he's shot completely makes sense.. this detective needs more training for sure!!

[@slaybial1]

Yo for real. I knew right away from how he wasn't making any sense that he indeed got shot.

[@dramallama5805]

I used to love this podcast but I developed insomnia because I have extreme paranoia that makes me believe things are going to happen to me so I had to stop for my own health but you guys should keep up the good work.

[@Guybrush_U_Threepwood]

Therapy

[@marisolmartinez6191]

Love this channel I’m addicted. Lol

[@jannesyoung3546]

please talk about the case in Delphi, Indiana of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. We need even more awareness on this case.

[@katherinethames3457]

Ya'lls podcasts are the only thing that got me through Thanksgiving with my inlaws😐😑

[@kenziebarstow5746]

it doesn’t take much medical knowledge to know this man should’ve been IMMEDIATELY taken to the hospital… absolutely disgusting

[@maddmd9171]

I watched this whole interrogation a while back, it totally broke my heart

[@a_solo_yolo]

Seriously cannot believe the Phoenix police department “somehow” got the case dismissed. Our judicial system is screwed. So horrifying for Ryan’s family. 😔

[@elliehicks6481]

thank you so much for talking about this heartbreaking story.

[@adabaraniuk603]

Thats honestly one of the most interesting cases I’ve ever heard

[@delphi_bee]

after my mom had a huge stroke, she had asphasia and confusion and annoyance at her own lack of ability to communicate, i completely recognize it in his pattern of speech. they should have gotten him medical attention before any sort of interview when they saw his eye and he started speaking this way.

[@japxy]

I never comment on KZbin and believe me I don’t even have FB or Instagram, but when I first saw you guys on my fyp on Tiktok I literally jumped onto my iPhone podcast to find if you were there and I’m glad you are. I just love it and I’m listening all the way back to the 2nd episode 😂. You’ve got a huge new fan in France (I’m not French though). Keep the great job. I LOVE It and hate it 😍😍😍

[@bradleythoeny4372]

Love you guys keep it up! Content is great, very entertaining :)

[@ThatsSoStevan]

i am officially all caught up!! i have spent my vacation watching and listing to you both!i love your podcast!

[@guattgamingyt73]

You guys should have like 10 million subscribers your podcast is amazing

[@scottmac6839]

Seen you both on TikTok, straight to KZbin to subscribe! 💯

[@chelseahare5833]

This is the case that I absolutely have to take days to prepare for anytime I come across it. It’s so infuriating and it just is unbelievable watching the footage.

[@chelseathomas7965]

This case hit home for me. I had a seizure in a parking lot to go into a festival, I was sober, but the hospital knew I came from a music event and assumed it was self-induced. I was talking just like this poor man was, I couldn't sign my name on my release papers, it was September 2014 and I thought it was 2013. They still released me. I had a seizure less than a mile down the road. The hospital didn't even check to see if I was going to drive myself or had a ride they just released me. Thankfully my ex and his sister was driving but the neglesnce is insane. The mental thought process is so scary. You are stuck in a confused loop. The best way I can describe it, is like the connection from your brain to memories and then to words, is so broken that you get lost and confused and forget the train of thought/convo very easily, a very confused state. It's frustrating too because you are somewhat there enough to understand the words people are saying but you are in a state of trauma it is hard to communicate (his way worse and a different level than mine, just trying to illustrate the mental process I felt and what he may have been experiencing too as it looks similar to how I sounded) wlrst part is you also see the frustration in the other person and you are talking to and you are trying your hardest but nothing is coming out right so you are frustrated and you aren't there fully either of course so it's just bad. I feel so bad for him.

[@mablepugh4459]

We need to start a petition or SOMETHING to hold these cops accountable. Specifically the interrogating detective. I respect police but NOT this department. I am appalled, disgusted, and honestly sick to my stomach hearing this story and Ryan and his family deserve justice.

[@bethfaceplays]

I just listened to this episode today for the first time. From the first "I dunno" and the physical description of his eye, I was yelling in my car that it was a brain injury. And to then find out he'd been injured for 2 days like this was gut wrenching.

[@kelliehorn1082]

I have basically no training in forensics, law enforcement, or medicine, but this was just plain ridiculous. Any Average Joe could tell within the first few minutes of the interrogation that continued questioning wouldn't get anyone anywhere. No one in their right mind would think Ryan was in his right mind.