Is God mortal or immortal? Br Hashim and Richard at Speakers Corner.

[@mihailomikel3341]

Richard is probably the only christian in the park to remind a muslim of his prayer when he has missed it :D. Good fella he is!

[@preciousgemqs]

Mikel eclok at what point in the video does he say that ?

[@mihailomikel3341]

He didnt, it was more of a description of his good manners.

[@denoiz]

Petra inJordan what' s mohammadan????

[@adilbkb]

​@@preciousgemqs28:44 😢 😢😢😢😢😢😢 30:28 30:59 🎉

[@adilbkb]

31:11

[@tunggulbirowo8941]

I pray that Richard be given guidance.. Aamiin YRA

[@writtenpath5589]

Tunggul Birowo Ameen

[@muhammadmoiz4638]

aamen

[@dhikagamerz5092]

Tunggul Birowo ameen

[@theincredibles8045]

Aameen

[@yusufblaik2599]

Ameen!

[@abdes_samd]

Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One, Allah , the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent." Quran

[@fahiymmuhammad785]

ALLAH Is ALLAH

[@olivegreen6587]

I like Richard,,, always debate with sincere eventho he knew that trinity doesn't make sense may Allah open his heart and accept Islam,,,,,anwayz a very good debate. And br Hashim you're the best as usual.

[@GEEKSYFE]

Salam. We are still waiting for Richard to take his Shahada haha sooner or later inshaellah

[@scentsofawakening8631]

GEEKSYFE TV the brothers took him out for dinner tonight...lets all make dua for him

[@realknowledgeforshare9954]

Scents of Awakening seriously? InsyaAllah he will take the Syahada

[@writtenpath5589]

Knowledge For Share yes he's right, it was on Ali Dawah snapchat...Adnan Rashid was there, Mohamed Smening and lots of others

[@realknowledgeforshare9954]

Written Path Alhamdulillah, he's getting closer, sukran for the info brother, jazakallah

[@akosim002080]

+Scents of Awakening OH YES. i just checked Ali Dawah's snapchat. Subhana Allah. May Allah swt guide him ... I knew it because he is always around with bro Muhammad from Guidance Avenues and refering to number of verses in bible. and I noticed now that Richard is growing beard. This is just my observation. In my mind i was asking Allah swt to guide him. ya Rabb. I hope videos will be posted for his shahada.

[@abuamanah9176]

Brother Richard is always sincere and his mannerisms are beautiful and second go none....oh Allah I beg You to bring brother Richard to Islam.

[@nabobofdub4631]

Abu Amanah that is in Allah SWT’s gift......not yours, not Hashim’s, not mine.......

[@scorpion20dz]

@@nabobofdub4631 this is why he's begging Allah asking him to give hidaya to Richard. and nothing wrong about this. we can ask hidaya for anyone we say may Allah guide you الله يهديك Allah Yehdik

[@teefx5681]

Hashim is a beast. doesn't change the subject. why 2 Christians never have the same beliefs.

[@alejandrozhu1927]

Taher Hussain best***

[@idomalion6167]

because as a Christian you have a personal relationship with God, that's why we don't take you muslims seriously, we know you havent a clue about the divine

[@kemal3599]

Idoma lion so you're claiming that Christians don't need to share identical beliefs? So tell me what was the purpose of the Council in Jerusalem, the Constantinople Creed, and the Nicerian Creed. The whole purpose was to outline and emphasise that Christians MUST have identical beliefs otherwise they are heretics. If it didn't matter then all Churches today would not be Trinitarian...

[@aaaaaaaaaa7699]

Im not a Christian but you have many sects in your religion and depending on the question asked you will get a differnet answer from a Sunni, Shiite, or Sufi

[@mohamadhazizi]

@@aaaaaaaaaa7699 if u ask different sects, they have different political interest...but the concept of God remain the same

[@vathekavempace]

Richard is one of the few decent Christians in Hyde park

[@EesaWaseem]

Richard is a good sincere man, letting go of his belief maybe is the hardest challenge for him, I pray he finds peace..... Amen

[@silverhill2043]

hashim full of logic. GOD bless you.

[@wakjep4013]

I'm proud to be Muslim....

[@yusufblaik2599]

Alhamdulilah ma sha allah

[@yasinijabu8467]

i sincerly pray that Richard get his Shahada.. he's honesty to himself may Allah open his heart and accept the true religion, Br Hashim be blessed brother your work is remarkable.

[@mybigbellybutton1552]

This is a nicer video without shouting or noise and interrupting or anything. This is nice and civil, i like this.

[@johnsmith9610]

I like Richard, there are some people in Hyde Park who actually debate *properly* and advance understanding between us rather than argumentative people ( I can't mention names) :)

[@adelbelaifa5492]

Richard looks very sincere. Today he is our brother in humanity, tomorrow if Allah will, he will be our brother in Islam.

[@duaaforever3149]

Richard is overthinking it. All Christians go through this phase of cognitive dissonance. As with most Christians he's come up with his own interpretation & has changed the meaning of words to fit that interpretation.

[@JustMyOpinion05]

+S Mathias if God is all powerful then why does sending a flying creature to his servant so far fetched? It's not a donkey or a horse for your information. God created the heavens and the earth, he gives life and takes life so him creating a creature that can transport his servant to him is nothing to laugh about.

[@nabobofdub4631]

S Mathias Christians slander Jesus by making him a racist misogynist!!

[@Q8Kudou]

Did Richard take shahada????

[@kamranmangal4460]

i like richard he is at least a honest christian (but inshallah soon muslim)

[@abdallahdukerazoumat8057]

Allah bless brother Hashim.

[@abdes_samd]

They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent. But the Jews and the Christians say, "We are the children of Allah and His beloved." Say, "Then why does He punish you for your sins?" Rather, you are human beings from among those He has created. He forgives whom He wills, and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them, and to Him is the [final] destination Quran

[@ssinternational7177]

2018 and still waiting to witness Richard's Shahada Inch'Allah.

[@hamadachebahi572]

Is Richard a muslim yet?

[@meldahatake6436]

Not sure. I saw his video with one of the brother from a year ago. At that time he is still Kaffar

[@yusufblaik2599]

May Allah swt guide him Ameen!

[@ibmlenovo1]

i like this Richad guy but when he defends trinity, he makes fool of himself.

[@truth2249]

Magnet Man lol he's struggling

[@meldahatake6436]

Agree 😂😂😂

[@jiqbal1uk]

Allah bless Hashim, he tried so hard for over an hour trying to explain simple logic to people who don't want to follow his simple demonstration of mortality and immortality.

[@shahidkasim9823]

Richard may Allah grant you more knowledge to accept the truth In Islam inshallah

[@yusufblaik2599]

Ameen!

[@shahzadanwar2897]

bro hashim killed it!!

[@colelife5092]

thanks for your beneficial videos brother sarwar...did brother shabir make an appearance this week.. and is there more videos coming up?

[@79Sarwar]

Br Shabir did not come today. One more video to come which is Br Mansoor vs Jay Smith. 40 mins.

[@writtenpath5589]

79Sarwar Jay Smith? 😰 I apologize in advance for the awful things my ears will hear...but on the plus side I'm going to gain lots of knowledge from brother Mansoor 🤓

[@Drillakilla80]

Looking forward to it

[@realknowledgeforshare9954]

a very nice discussion until Aaron the Pantecostal Guard Missionary came with his lack of Knowledge according to his own scripture and always swift to other topic hahahahaha poor Aaron, everyone came to the Park to enrich their knowledge but Not to Aaron.....so Quran is God and Allah is God, what kind a stupid statement that was......thx for the video brother sarwar.....

[@sadekbilal5619]

I sincerely like this guy, Richard is different. He seems very nice, honest... if only he takes Shahada and become muslim. May Allah gives him guidance in this life, to the straight path. I guess he would be very helpful for Muslims in the Uk and elsewhere.

[@nowme1211]

Richard you seem sincere enough... may ALLAH SWT guide you to Islam

[@Anchor0690]

The last guy though... wow.. i knew him to be irrational but to come up with the 2 being analogy is frankly stupid. no where was the knowledge regarded as a being. what he is trying to do was superimpositing is weird view on the Islamic view.

[@writtenpath5589]

Anchor0690 this is an argument missionaries keep repeating for the past year or so, he didn't come up with it himself lol

[@mariambibi6705]

I like richard he is good person one day inshaallah he see the stright part

[@tarabee3350]

Richard, you know deep down what the truth is my friend. Come to Islam and become our brother :)

[@sajidmahmood4238]

Arron as usual has lost the plot

[@danimoosakhan]

The big contradiction is that Richard is not even a Christian

[@spadecaller6300]

i saw a vid where Godwin was exposed by Richard for saying that David was not a prophet. Richard put up his hand there when Godwin was asking around for a christian

[@spoolindsm127]

This is the most I've seen Richard smile. I can't blame him considering the company he's standing in 💑 😉.

[@MamadouTraore-om8hh]

The trinity is one of the weakest arguments of muslims ? How so?

[@hamidfaraz87]

Lol! "Weakest"??? The trinity doctrine is weakest, that is why the FABRICATION of 1 John 5:7 was needed as a man-made insertion ;-)

[@mozuka5129]

Oh No ..its Aaron/confused guy again..

[@realknowledgeforshare9954]

mozuka5129 Aaron the Pantecostal Missionary channel that he would not admit 🤐🤐🤐

[@writtenpath5589]

Knowledge For Share some things are best left unknown...the truth is best carried to the grave 😝

[@purereflections6009]

+Knowledge For Share even in the comment section he always swifts to other topics...he never learns his lesson 😂

[@realknowledgeforshare9954]

Pure Reflections hahahahaha yes he is and the best part is when he stop replying our arguments if he already in the blind spot of his evidence, that is so silly of him 😄😄😄

[@Ovi1985]

Br Ibrahim too is knowledgeable. ma sha ALLAH.

[@yoyoyocrazyfool93]

It's simple. Jesus can't be 100% God because he's walking the earth as a human. God is not a human. It doesn't make sense for God to be born and come from a womb to walk amongst his own creation? Come on...this is God we are talking about, the almighty, the creation of everything. And to identify the Holy Spirit and Jesus as 100% God "as well" really is an ignorant thing to say really because they're identified as separate beings, where as the Father is actually God. So it's down to being honest and consistent really. You Christians need to acknowledge this instead of just believing it when it doesn't make sense. The answers to these questions are simple. They're identified as three different beings, the father being above them both in terms of knowledge and basically creating everything that exists. Trinity case closed.

[@-algerino-1205]

Richard, come on ! what are you waiting for to announce your shahada ? come on bro, let us give you a big sincere hug.

[@karratherc5634]

Hyde park...where protestants fail every Sunday because Sola Scriptura is unworkable.

[@ghjkihkknj1690]

Stop..Stop..simply apply to God the Attributes of divinity then make a logical human assumption those Attributes are and have to be distinct from His creation, or there's no point in worshipping Him..you worship that which is perfect with no deficiency.. how clear is that. end of.

[@carlosvega622]

if we die , our body die but our spirit not die (will get reward or punishment- alam barzah) but we still not a god

[@elleon1207]

Aaron a.k.a snoop dogg ruined the video for me. darn it aaron

[@muhammadmoiz4638]

Does Richard accepted Islam ? May Allah give him hidayah...

[@christopherwells3426]

Why is Richard not a Muslim yet? He seems like a rational intelligent guy.

[@ajay-re4xw]

RICHARD .... if you see this message .Please its time to ACCEPT THE TRUTH OF ISLAM ..You must know with your level of knowledge it makes sense .. Come on my Brother in Humanity Be a brother in faith too . You have what it takes to be a great example for even Muslims to follow ... love and peace

[@peacebeuponyou2]

Oh my, how frustrating. I do learn from the Muslim brothers, this is why i watch. Alhamdulliah.

[@akosim002080]

Poor guy. He doest make any sense. Im trying to understand him and follow what he is saying if incasse i wanna become christian but it doesnt make sense. Hashim had won.

[@Zya98]

Let me be honest....Every Muslim who gives Dawah have an inner feeling Like "Such a nice person, i wish he accepts Islam". In that sense , Br-Richard is one of them, who speaks honest and value others points...... unlike those Freaks/Maniacs especially that Banshee where i wish she never gets hidayah......Those who are in the path of Astray....

[@urwashahid9210]

according to the logic of the girl in the beginning, we are all gods because we all have souls that are immortal but just the body dies

[@saracenoperationtawheed-mo3074]

79Sarwar : My favourite speakers corner channel.

[@aRsH-aJ]

whoaa .. what was that song. at 54:55 ..played so loud...I just thought James smith died of an heart attack and the People there in hyde park burst in joy....

[@tyebabintemizan3706]

Lol 😆

[@saidaberka3114]

A book has now turned into a being. Wow!

[@kirtcruz9283]

In Hebrews he called his son God Hebrew 1:1 the whole chapter talked about the Jesus and his divinity

[@syedminhajuddin5813]

According to him nose became him, his finger became him, his word become him, his knowledge become him.

[@scorpion20dz]

in Islam when Prophet Moses PBUH asked to see Allah. Allah said to him YOU CAN'T SEE ME ( because he's so powerfull and his light will burn the earth if he appeared to our Prophet Moses PBUH ) but even tho he wanted him to witness what happen if Allah manifest in this earth. Allah didn't even manifest he just showed a little bit of his light the mountain fell down and got completely destroyed and turned to dust. on that moment Prophet fell on his knees and asked for forgiveness. but Allah didn't mind his Question because Allah SWT himself took the fear out from the heart of our Prophet Moses PBUH to ask such a Question. we can see Allah him only when we die. when we die we will see everything Allah SWT ; the Angels , the Jinns all his Creation SWT

[@blendinwithnature665]

Br Hashim getting wiser...

[@IHATEPULSE]

Please do use a HUGE fav. Next time ANY Dawah person runs into Richard have a sincere 1 on 1 alone, maybe invite him to the house or masjid. He so sincere and humble just needs a little guidance.

[@chrisj2040]

Jesus said I have the power to lay down my life and to take it up again

[@spadecaller6300]

Come to Islam, Richard! You know this house of Trinity is built on quicksand.

[@mydinbrahim8581]

I like this guy very much because he sincere not like denial. hatun. lizzie. Godwin @ stupid boy in the park. Hope god give richard peace life

[@KazBlaze]

enjoying these videos so much sarwar

[@anwarmaharban]

Everytime Aaron interrupts someone.. it suddenly transforms from a very descent, calm, interesting and intelligent discussion into a chaotic non-logical childish one...where the intelligent side always remains to be coming from the muslim at that point.

[@ot5634]

Almighty God is the absolute and immortal. Jesus is not absolute and he is mortal, so he cannot be God. Br Hashim is speaking the true. May Allah continue to guide this brother.

[@akosim002080]

ameen

[@therivernile.]

where do u guys hosts this record, I would like to come?

[@zaidalruwaishan1915]

Hyde Park

[@muhammadjoshua7464]

Speakers corner at hydepark, open on sunday

[@StellaLovesMusic25]

John 8:31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” 33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?” 34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. 37 I know that you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word. 38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father.” 39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered. “If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.” “We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

[@umlabot]

I like Richard. Allah guide him. Ameen

[@aaaaaaaaaa7699]

Jesus chose to be mortal. He chose to die on the cross. According to the christians he could have called on the father to save him. Which in a way does in fact seperate Jesus from god which does go against the trinity in my thinking.

[@carlosvega622]

christian said "jesus die but the spirit not die" but the meaning of die is when spirit gone away from body so jesus die if i die also my body die but my spirit not die,so what difference between me and jesus. conclusion myself & jesus are human.

[@denoiz]

i'm a muslim and didnt know that muslims prayed to the Quran and we have two god...I think our brother aaron( if I'm not mistaken) here is confuse just like our brother peter. how can knowledge be an entity. I think he mix up his "knowledge" about islam with his belief in the bible especially john 1:1.

[@luk1430i]

Very calm and useful debate

[@vathyah5428]

I'm just wondering why some new channels are coming up and re-upload videos of these brothers? Do they get the permission of its owner?

[@79Sarwar]

+Nuzul Fathyah - Not sure, but would be good if they linked back to the original poster.

[@vathyah5428]

Yes it would. Are there more videos coming up soon? I noticed that you just uploaded 7 of yesterday footages.

[@sajidkhanmahmood]

people copy other peoples videos and reupload them to their channel to make money and theirs no way to block it. many of my original recoedings have also been copied.

[@vathyah5428]

sajidkhanmahmood I knew it but thanks for the info. At least they can build their channel with original stuffs OR maybe do the recording at Speakers Corner by theirselves. Just saying.

[@sajidkhanmahmood]

I agree exactly bro my channel has been their over 10 years with done very good videos and recently I have noticed many people stealing the material and loading it to their channel then monitizing it. the best thing you can do is to add a water mark to your videos because KZbin don't help to block people stealing material. one person in particular I have noticed doing this is the channel called destiny or something.

[@abdallahdukerazoumat8057]

Hafzaa'k Allah brother Hashim.

[@faustinmushi6451]

God has no limit. The Holly Bible say (nothing shall be impossible with God:Luk 1:37). If God can die or not die He God can do whatever he can. We man we can't explain anything about God.

[@A-RJ]

See how you don't need a mediator or a timer when you speak to sincere confident Christians. Very pleasant debate. And then Aaron turned up.

[@ttrrooyyttrrootteerr]

I have the answer. As you said, God alone is immortal. When God's elect people get their new bodies as mentioned in PHILIPPIANS 3:20-21 they are classed as being part of God's body. Jesus described his chosen elect as... YOU ARE GODS. Therefore if these people are part of God's body then this qualifies them as being immortal, the moment they receive these new bodies.

[@as680783]

On the subject of writing Hebrew names in Greek... There's no Y or J in Greek, and it is impossible to determine how Y might have been pronounced in Biblical times. However, they can write these letters in alternative forms. For example, Y as in Yaweh could be written with "i" iota and "u" upsilon or and then adding the other letter to form Yawah, so "Iu###". However, since it's unable to be written or pronounced any further in Greek they simply use the word "Kirios".

[@peacebeuponyou2]

Aaron is back. O my!

[@isaacantwi5155]

Ezekiel 18:4 “The soul dies”

[@KlinikXOfficial]

What happened to Richard haven't seen him in the park for ages?? Anyone know?

[@carlosvega622]

the girl with green shirt "silent" cannot said anything after hashim told her about jesus not immortal because clearly jesus die. (die mean spirit separated from body.)

[@mrjamescotter3360]

if god text messaged you "i am one there is no god beside me" would any one say that the words " i am one there is no god beside me" a being/incarnation/becoming etc ? would anyone say that the text is holding infinite god? is " i am one there is no god beside me" an eternal truth about god? say i heard God say , " i am one there is no god beside me" so i heard words i couldn't see, hold, touch , smell or taste

[@shamsnawabi]

“Lets not complicate it richard ... lets deal with the body first”😝

[@ChunkyT1]

1+1+1= 1 For God is not the author of confusion. 1 Corinthians 14:33

[@abuabdulrahman3718]

I'm watching this video after one year . I hope Richard has take Shahada . May Allah guide him to the truth...

[@affandiagunglaksono7816]

Abu Abdulrahman so richard stil not accepting islam? For me, richard is a sincere christian. May Allah guide him.

[@michaelphillips4191]

Listening to Richard makes me confused, however in 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. It boggles my mind how Christians believe the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are a trinity. Even my 14yr old Son knows better and we both have studied the Bible

[@qdhxhgpr]

Even if we been very generous for the sake of argument only,, and accepted the fact Jesus "the God" died as a human by the separation of soul form the body,, the bible still comes back and kill that small escape,, because in Luke 24:39,, Jesus still have a physical body. 38“Why are you troubled,” Jesus asked, “and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39Look at My hands and My feet. It is I Myself. Touch Me and see - for a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.” 40And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and feet.… It's a dead end,, Jesus never died and never been God int he first place.,, and the bible proves it

[@mjleo7884]

This is what happen when u trying to understand a scripture without a proper guardian. We muslim alhamdulillah we guided with all the sahih hadiths from Prophet Muhammad s.a.w in order for muslim to understand the quran.

[@al-kimiya6962]

There are two possible definitions of the Death as per theological or philosophical point of view. Either 'ceasing to exist' OR 'separation of soul from body' So, If only God is immortal then it means only He's not subject to death and the rest of existing beings are. and the definition of death has to be consistent for all beings. So If only God is immortal then it means either only He's not subject to "ceasing to exist' OR only He's not subject to "separation of soul from body'" If the former definition is True in conjunction with the claim that Jesus died on the cross then, it means He ceased to exist therefore He can't be God as God can't cease to exist. If the latter definition is true then again He can't be God as he experienced the process of 'separation of soul from body'" which God doesn't/can't do. One can't say as Richard said - that Everyone when dies ceases to exist but when Jesus died he only experienced the separation of soul from body, that's inconsistent use of the different definitions of death as per convenience and therefore fallacious. If Jesus died on the cross then He's to die as per the universal definition of death that acts on all other beings, you cannot use a different definition of death for him alone and say He died, If He didn't undergo the conditions of death as per universal definition then He didn't die, and If He died then He's not God as God is immortal who doesn't experience death(of any definition)

[@moler646445]

br Sarwar plz fallow Br Hashim when he in the park and recored everything he say he awesome :)

[@mijchrome4296]

what do christians believe would happen when the angel blows the trumpet

[@nabilelmaniaa6581]

I like how when you listen to Richard and see how he act he look to be really impartial he don't get triggered when we told him that there is a prob with Jesus dying if he is God he listen tell how he think and carry on with respect and logic when you don't have something that is more logic than the other he just listen and thats how you can see that I really hope that Richard Find the truth for me the truth is Islam

[@TheChromePoet]

I like you Richard, but there was much interpretation and speculation.

[@mrcharzak]

can I have the coordinates of the young man on screen at minute 2:55

[@robinwagner9578]

God and his son are immortalWhen our Lord Jesus yeshua Christ came to earthHis father Yahweh god has blessed our Lord Jesus yeshua Christ mother by waving his hand and create our Lord from her wombSo our Lord Jesus yeshua Christ is a demigod

[@shelakroes990]

This Aron always intterup from behind!

[@fiddalo1]

M watching it again after 9 months, and i find myself comment with the same thing: Richard you look sincere and you have accepted or better say: you realized all these things that makes Christianity a false religion? So why not just taking your shahada? Or at least leave Christianity and believe in: "one God who has not given birth and has not been born and there is none equal to Him". that's Quran chapter 112, which bring us back to Islam. Look If you are truly sincere like we think you are then pray to the creator and ask him for guidance, you know: you could die any time, so are you really willing to die on what you are on? Think about it ,really think about it, May Allah guide you to the right path.

[@AbdulSalam-ek3vj]

Damien at the end? Ooh no! The worst ending of a civilised discussion.

[@ghjkihkknj1690]

simply use deduction on the book rather than subjective logic, as that is a means of deriving at what suits or fits you..it can't be just faith do you really think God would not appeal to your intellect and rational thinking when he endowed you with it.

[@isha6804]

Can any Christian please explain why the doctrine of the Trinity is so important? Could Jesus not be just a man and die for sins if that is the dogma?

[@zellak-pr7pu]

Its muslims that make such a big deal out of the Trinity....because it is against the fundamental dogma of islam. Christians mostly never even consider it anything to talk about.

[@_MillionaresRow]

Trinity isn't even in the bible

[@isha6804]

zellak 1881 When you say that most Christians mostly never consider it, do you mean that they do not think about how to explain it etc? Or that they just accept it without questioning it?

[@isha6804]

Mousa Hasan I think most people know on this platform at least....... that the term in not in the bible..........however there are passages that are used to support it.

[@peterclark4427]

God was here before the universe,or universes,but even god cant be sure if eternal is a fact,as it has no end,therefore can never be proven.not even god can answer that question,as one point in time eternal may say,im done.unless god is time,then maybe,but even then,no.and is there really one god,god only knows.