7Hz Salnotes Zero Review - Comparison to Moondrop Chu/Quarks - CCA CRA - Dunu Titan S - Ikko OH10

[@mve9899]

I received the Zeros in the mail. They sound amazing, truly astounding for their price range. While they objectively sound better than the CRAs, I found out that I still enjoy the CRAs more: turns out that I'm truly a v-shape guy!

[@hackinghifi4247]

Nothing wrong with that! The cra are great in their own way.

[@aryanjohnsharma]

What about the cra+?

[@mve9899]

@@aryanjohnsharma I havent had them, tho Ive heard that the CRA+ has less bass

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@aryanjohnsharma hi John, wasn’t a fan of the cra plus. Did a review on it as well comparing it to the cra original if you want to check it out.

[@martinvegas1327]

Ordered some along with the quarks both coming Monday👍

[@pedrobramante48]

Loved when you said this may be a hobby for you, but, for some people, this probably will be the only set they buy for a year. Very thoughtful of you. Greetings from Brazil!!

[@hackinghifi4247]

Greetings! Thank you for watching. I hope you love whatever set you decide on.

[@pedrobramante48]

@@hackinghifi4247 I am probably buying the Zeros. Do you have any playlist that would be really good to the more balanced tuning of the zeros? I would really enjoy to listen something different than hip hop, metal, rock etc (stuff that I usually hear)

[@hackinghifi4247]

@Pedro Bramante listen to Thomas Bergersen album “seven”. It’s so good. Look up Dave Brubeck take 5 and miles Davis kind of blue. Listen to Norah jones 1st and second albums. 80s pop like cyndi pauper girls just want to have fun and bangles manic Monday sound great on these. I wish by stevie wonder. Tuatha dea wisp of a thing. That should get you started 😃

[@mve9899]

Im really stoked though, the quality of a Chu without the quality control issues and crappy build quality of the filters? Count me in!

[@hackinghifi4247]

Yeah they’re great, also I won’t be worried having them out and about with how cheap they are.

[@hlway40]

First thing first.. Great review. I've had this set for nearly 1 month and to be honest, I'm impressed. The tonal balance is just really great. Some people say this can sound shouty and even lacking bass (what?), but for me the overall sound is just right and I've never got any complain for those things. For the price, I'm sure this is the best you can get currently. Although, sometimes I do wish the upper mid could get a bit push and more intimate since I have a lot of pop songs. I really like intimate vocals. And I've just noticed this set can get quite revealing - meaning if it's paired with bad audio file nor bad source, it can really show them as what they are, without much coloration (if that's a right term). I don't know if you or other folks have experienced the same or not.

[@hackinghifi4247]

Thanks for watching! Yes they’re very revealing iems, they’re some of the most unforgiving cheap iems I’ve used but that comes with the territory of giving you more detail.

[@MR.ROBOTVOLTRON]

Excellent review. These must really sound great to make such a good impression on everyone with these other sets mentioned with it. I think I have to get them because they are just 20 bucks.

[@hackinghifi4247]

Yeah they’re a no brainer to me. Thanks for watching!

[@neuroscrossa]

Just bought 7Hz Salnotes Zero. Thanks to your review. I do appreciate it!

[@hackinghifi4247]

Awesome! Hope you enjoy. Thanks for watching.

[@matusjurcik6974]

Hi 🙂, I also use spinfit cp100+ on my salnotes, even though the stock tips had a good sound for me (nothing wrong with them, I used that turquoise color bass tips) I realised sound differences with the spinfits, very slightly less bass but better centre image (vocals were pulled more in between my eyes within the stage with the cp100+). The cp100+ actually gave me more bass and improved clarity with my kinera nanna 2.0 compare to the final /bass E-typs which is quite interesting. So slightly less bass with the salnotes zero, but slightly more bass with the kinera 2.0. But I cant agree with your one statement that the salnotes zero has lesser clarity than the ikko oh10, the clarity of the background instruments of the salnotes zero is flagship level and I kid you not. On the budget iems the background instruments can be a little smeared, not the case of the salnotes zero. The only advantage of the flagship iems over the salnotes really is better timber and maybe slightly better detail (in some cases) and better design to handle busy passages in the music. In generall I agree with ur opinion about the salnotes though 🙂

[@hackinghifi4247]

Thanks for watching! They really are amazing especially for the price. Makes me want to sell my ikkos to free up some cash to buy other stuff. 😀

[@matusjurcik6974]

@@hackinghifi4247 yeah actually salnotes zero (in my original comment I wrote it wrong by mistake) has better clarity that the ikko oh10 it is really flagship level (background clarity). So for slow accoustic music they are killer. Be you I would keep the oh10 because of the bass and hybrid design (ability to better handle busy passages maybe). But the sound of the salnotes is very clear without being thin or overly sharp especially with the cp100+.

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@matusjurcik6974 absolutely. Even the best budget option to me struggle with busier passages.

[@erhanozgul5301]

ABOUT "Hacking HiFi" HIS EVALUATIONS/REVIEWS ARE so REALITY so TOUCHING REAL LIFE so CORRECT so ACCURATE so FULL SPECTRUM One of the best reviewers for me❤ Let me explain: I ve (read reviews but more importantly) listen to sound demo s of Moondrop Chu and 7hz Salnotes Zero on youtube from the sound demos alone Zero sounded sibilant/shouty/peaky(whichever is correct) + something wrong with tonality + thicker sound compared to Chu. But they condemned Chu and praised Zero. So i was always sceptic of those reviewers because i owned and liked the Chu. Reviewers said "Chu sounded bad/off and Zero sounded great" but it did not sounded like that to my ears and i thought they have no understanding of sound! But when i watched the video of "Haking HiFi" his descrition of Zero (which had matching pieces to what i percieved) + his comparison to Chu (which i would accept) then the merits of Zero he described r beliavable/reliable for me now. And i thought woow maybe Zero is really a good set may be i should give it a try. Now i get why everybody hypes it.....(no reviewer ever get me close to Zero: because they were talking so nonsense/empty + not matching my perception) And yes for any iem you buy you will most probably end in not usable stock tips and for the budget(20$set not usable stock cables) but no oneelse is talking about these either!!! And this GREAT GUY has only 789 subs????!!!! It should ve been 789,000.

[@hackinghifi4247]

You’re really kind! Thanks for watching.

[@Andyhandle]

Excellent review. I wanted a cheap set of IEMs and ordered the 7Hz Zero (I've got the 7hz Timeless already. It'll be interesting to hear the v2 Timeless that's been announced).

[@hackinghifi4247]

It’s really good. Thanks for the feedback. Just make sure the tips are working for you I couldn’t use the ones that came with it.

[@Andyhandle]

@@hackinghifi4247 thanks for the tip🙂 (I hadn't seen your channel before - I've subscribed now).

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@Andyhandle a man after my own heart. My puns leave my house ringing with groans haha. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!

[@Andyhandle]

@@hackinghifi4247 that was a really great review. Enjoyable to watch, informative and well structured. Clearly a lot of time went into that. I was hoping the 7hz Zero would have MMCX connectors. The 7hz Timeless have MMCX adapters (handy as I've also got some great Shure earbuds - eight years old and going strong!. I just got my first 4.4mm balanced MMCX cable. I'm surprised at the improvements with wider sound stage, more detail and more depth.

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@Andyhandle thanks so much for the kind words. That’s interesting about the cabling, I haven’t tried balanced myself yet but I understand you can get more power that way.

[@BestAnimeFights32]

that about the titan s is true , is very efficient to show you the characteristics of a song as they are, I was surprised that sometimes I was listening to purely vocal songs and then I change to one with very pronounced bass and delivers a very good job presenting both songs.With only the first hearing of the titan s, I knew that they would be better than the aria and the t3. I'll buy the zero ones, they look interesting and if you liked the titan s as much as I did (and I also recognize that the soudstage is not her strong point, but it's not bad either), I guess I'll love these too

[@hackinghifi4247]

That’s a great way to put it. Like wow I didn’t know you could do that!

[@andishiddiq5076]

Sorry for reviving your comments. But do you think salnotes zero worth upgrading to dunu titan s?

[@colinmartin9797]

I kinda hate the chu's - they were the first I've listened to where the eartips were so wrong that they ruined the sound. I thought maybe I got a broken pair until I tried some sednafit xelastec tips and suddenly they woke up and sounded great - impressive technicals for $20. But they still just felt so claustrophobic. Personally, I'm much more of a headphone user, so that absolute lack of space made them really intensely unpleasant, like talking to someone who's way up in your personal space. I also liked the style and feel in the hand, but hated the cable with a burning passion. Overall, I just didn't see the point. So I grabbed the zero's after getting the 7hz diokos and absolutely falling in love with their planar magnetic slam and enormous soundstage. I was hoping these would just be a budget version of them. And they absolutely are. Imaging and soundstage for a $20 pair of IEM's is nothing short of spectacular. The tuning itself is good, the technicals are plenty adequate at the price, but that soundstage and imaging is really, really outstanding. "little brother to the dioko" is right on point, and a great idea to then sell someone on the upgrade to their more premium products. I went with blue since it felt like it wasn't trying to be premium looking, and I like the vibe. Stainless steel covers is a nice premium touch. The cable is far better. The earloops and thin design is nicer than the silicone wrapping of the chu's that won't stay wrapped up properly in your backpack. I agree that they really missed a detail they should have had by omitting a microphone. Even if it made then 25 cents more expensive, it would have been worth it. But it coils nicely and stays wrapped tightly, and being replaceable is a huge bonus. The eartip pack you get with them is far better than anything else at the price. It's the same pack as the dioko (minus one pair of tacky latex-like ones) and I had no problem finding a pair that fit. I normally kept the chu's around for beater status in my backpack, in case I needed some IEM's with a microphone for a lecture or the like. But now, I'm gonna give them away and switch to the zero's, which feel like they easily justify another $10 on a cable with a microphone. Absolutely the best pick right now for someone who needs a cheap/first pair of IEM's.

[@hackinghifi4247]

You may be right on the tips but with larger ear canals like I have I couldn’t get a seal even with the larger tips. I don’t think I’m some mutant so it’s confusing to me why I continue to have this issue with tips in the box. 😂 Thanks for watching! You’re spot on I think but the chus sound much better with a good pair of bass leaning tips.

[@colinmartin9797]

@@hackinghifi4247 Oh no doubt, eartips are SUPER personal! I have very _medium_ canals. Sometimes a MS, sometimes an M, occasionally an ML tip is what's right. Spinfit makes some truly outstanding tips, their 1025's are the ONLY ones that can fit a lot of more odd shaped stuff like many TWS buds (the 1more comfobuds mini's have really uncomfortable tips, but the spinfits made them into all-day comfortable and still let them fit the case) I generally find a fitting pair of tips in the box of every IEM I try, but the spring tips in the chu's (which everyone seems to love) were just horrid for me, they straight up sounded broken. If you haven't tried the sednaearfit xelastec teps, I'd highly recommend giving them a try sometime - they're a slightly temperature sensitive elastomer that kinda combines the vibe of a silicone tip with a foam one. Easier to put in than foam, but brings up the bass, too. and +1 on the crinacle zero's, too. Also impressive soundstage, lots of good tips, nice cable, I just found them to be a little overbearing on the mid-bass. Kick drums can be intrusive. Also the stems are THICC. Almost uncomfortable for my ear canals. But they too punch well above their weight. If I didn't have the diokos already, I'd be happy with the 7hz zero's. But the diokos somehow scratch the same kind of itch as my custom Grado GS3000e's, which are about twenty times the MSRP. I don't really care about "personalities" tuning stuff, but the products Crinacle's put his name to have all been home runs for my taste. It's just nice to see a company like 7hz throw as many premium touches as humanly possible at the most budget price bracket. Here's looking forward to the first brand to bring some planar magnetics into the sub-$50 range.

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@colinmartin9797 for sure it’s a really fun time to be in the hobby! If you still have the Crinacle zeros I’d love it if you’d try something for me. I hated the spring tips because they made the mids higher than need be and the bass less in my opinion. They also seem to run a size small. So if you have medium ears try the large spring tips and throw them on the crinacle zeros. To me they bring everythiig into balance and sound great. Mids come forward and don’t sound unenergetic and recessed and the bass comes under control.

[@colinmartin9797]

@@hackinghifi4247 I just tried it and oof, nope. The kick drum got tamed (I was using "Kickstart my Heart" by Motley Crue and "Bad Apple!!" by Richaadeb as my control) but everything else in the middle just felt hollowed out and the crash cymbals became piercing (and I like me some grado treble, this was just sibilant AF) I tried both the medium and large spring tips - I think there's just something about them that doesn't work at all with my head. I only realized they were ruining the Chu's when I was playing with them and tried the spring tips on my Diokos, only to discover they made those sound like booty. I also realized I was using the thicker latex-like eartips off my diokos with the crinacle zero's... So I switched back to the medium silicone tips they came with and that really did even everything out quite a bit. Guess I didn't really spend much time with the original tips. Only problem I run into with them is that the stems are just absolute cannons, so after an hour or two, basically every tip other than the foam ones put quite a bit of pressure on the inside of my ear canal once they're pushed in deep enough to "fit". But the foam tips ruin the soundstage and imaging. I still respect their vibe - Intrusive or not, the crossover they run lets them push some truly hedonistic bass, while keeping an impressive soundstage and great technicals. Also love the wide range of tips and the featherlight cable (but again, I think basically every IEM cable needs a mic/remote) I am more of a headphone nerd than IEM's, and I just kinda feel like maybe I've reached my endgame in the IEM side - the 7hz diokos just crush everything else I've tried, and the 7hz Zero's are genuine hifi at $20 (They can even showcase Bobby McFerrin properly, that's insane.) Unless something major changes, I just don't see myself needing to upgrade again on the IEM side of things. The only thing left on my radar are the fiio UTWS5's to make them TWS, otherwise the old BTR5 continues to be the portable workhorse. Which is just as well, just means more pennies saved for some Meze Empyreans, lololol. I'm picking up this cable for the zero's - It comes in 3 colors, each match one of the zero's. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08QZ48FTR/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2H7EJ1MF7MGUE&psc=1

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@colinmartin9797 that cable is gorgeous! Yes everyone’s ears are different that’s part of what makes this all so fascinating. I think the message of experimenting until you find what works is really important. I respect your inner detective! That’s how I roll too. The whole point of the channel is to find what’s real and what doesn’t matter in hifi. I’m finding a lot of the time things under $50 can get me where I need to go.

[@hydrowiz1660]

The main con of 7hz zero for me is that it sounds least dynamic (very bad macro contrast) in my whole iem collection, otherwise very solid iem

[@hackinghifi4247]

I can see that. It’s clean and clear but a little narrow in the sound.

[@thesonnytackettshow7949]

I did my testing and the Comply 500 series absolutely did the trick!!! I t still seemed to retain that nice sparkle, so maybe the shorter 500s might not dampen the hi end as much as the Pro tips? Which are deeper, Goinna find out if they make them in this size!!

[@hackinghifi4247]

Awesome, let me know what you find out!

[@hackinghifi4247]

While I’m thinking of it- currently studying the heart mirror iems and they sound great with the final e series tips. They add a touch of bass but also mids stay very crisp. You may want to pick those up to try as well on the heart mirrors. They’re called the final e series tips. I got them from audio46 for about $15 with free shipping.

[@thesonnytackettshow7949]

@@hackinghifi4247 I’m sending a set of Complys to try for that Heart Mirror. It definitely added bass, very well controlled. It’s just a great iem for female vocalists onstage because the vocals are so good and we can control the other instruments easily, exactly what they want . And please try these 200s when you get them with the BLON 03s, they really worked for me, they are the right size for the nozzle. I’m watching all these reviews and not jumping the gun on buying new ones to test, but so far it’s the Olina, the Softears Zero, The Aria, and Etymotic ER. I’m sure there will be more by the time I order. I’m experimenting with these first.

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@thesonnytackettshow7949 that’s a great selection to work with. I can tell you from experience getting too much at the same time can be overwhelming. Taking your time getting to know each of them I feel like is worthwhile. I’ll try those on the blons when I receive thanks again!

[@mve9899]

Your channel deserves more recognition

[@hackinghifi4247]

That’s very kind of you to say thank you!

[@mve9899]

@@hackinghifi4247 I love the detailed videos and the effort you put in, even for budget IEMs! Most channels just breeze over them, completely ignoring the fact that not everyone has the biggest wallet (like me haha)

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@mve9899 I’m glad, you were me at one point for not having a budget. 😀 The good news is that $20 gets you incredibly far in this hobby now!

[@mve9899]

@@hackinghifi4247 yeah I ordered the Zero right away, along with a Tripowin mic cable upgrade

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@mve9899 sweet, I love having the mic it’s so convenient when my phone rings in the middle of a session. Remember if you don’t get a good seal you may need to pick up ear tips. I left a link for those if you want some in the description. For me the tips that came with them were really bad.

[@KulvinderSingh-pm7cr]

Great video, love such detailed comparisons, kudos

[@hackinghifi4247]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching.

[@martinvegas1327]

As long as the 7hz Zero doesn't fatigue you after 20 minutes like the kZ Zs10 pro's i will be happy👍

[@hackinghifi4247]

It’s not too bad but there’s definitely some better in that department! Thanks for watching.

[@universidadtrabajo1797]

Most complete iem you have heard? Good separation, natural, detail... and good bass. Thanks

[@hackinghifi4247]

The s12 is excellent and if you watch for a sale you can get them for around $130. I did a video on that one as well.

[@universidadtrabajo1797]

@@hackinghifi4247 thanks!! It's better that ikko oh10?

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@universidadtrabajo1797 I love them both in their own way but if I had to pick one it would be the s12. More open and airy sounding. More sense of space and with the right ear tips I find it less fatiguing. I find it big and detailed but also buttery smooth not sure how they did that but it’s awesome. What tips you use are very important though.

[@alexm4104]

I bought these IEMs, and I really like them, now wanting to buy IEMs similar in sound to these but in a budget of 100/150 what would you recommend?

[@hackinghifi4247]

Thanks for watching! Can’t go wrong with the Shuoer S12. It has great range and clarity but much more satisfying bass. It is a little spicy in the treble for some so it’s worth trying some different tips. For some reason the pancake tips work best for me on them. Maybe because it’s further from my ear canal? Anyway they’re a great set.

[@wowtac547]

When you where talking about the salnotes zero you mentioned the crinacle zero and was wondering what your thoughts are between them. I know some prefer the salnotes over the crinacle

[@hackinghifi4247]

The Crinacle has more bass but less soundstage and instrument separation. I did a video on it if you want to check it out and compared it to this one. Thanks for watching!

[@1337wafflezz]

quarks are like little miniature hd650s. they’re excellent for that

[@hackinghifi4247]

That’s a good point never thought of them like that! Miniature is definitely a word I’ve thought of when listening to them before.

[@Smzxe]

Funny thing is I got $5 sennheiser CX 180 is sounds like Audio Technica M40x as well as HD58X That in ear has better mids than these over ears bass is of course much better treble is nicer clean sparkly It sounds better than Sony MH1 or CRA I returned CRA because of high Treble peeks and mic was defective I'm about to get Moondrop CHU since it's a upgrade over Quarks or SSP But I'm confused between Blon Bl03 and Moondrop Chu Which do I buy

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@Smzxe blon for bass every time if that’s what you’re going for

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@Smzxe send me a link for the cx 180 if you don’t mind I can’t find it

[@Smzxe]

@@hackinghifi4247 it was really popular and best selling earphones in India for its sound quality But you can't find it anywhere now it was completely sold in 2021 You should have grabbed these before And I don't think so it was available in USA It was only available in Russia and India

[@aryanjohnsharma]

I'm confused between CCA cra+ & Salnotes Zero

[@hackinghifi4247]

Short answer is zeros all day. Also check out the video I just did on the new hbb they’re really good.

[@prajwaljaya1320]

For watching movies which would you choose between these two 'Cra or zero'

[@hackinghifi4247]

Zero for sure more soundstage

[@william3k]

Was interested in this thanks for the review. Where's the link to the mic cable for this? Does it have volume control?

[@hackinghifi4247]

Thanks for watching! I forgot to include the link in the description. Here’s what you need KBEAR 2pin IEM Cable with Mic... www.amazon.com/dp/B08N49V2XR?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[@cesrrr01]

the main issue with the ikko OH10s is that they have a massive dip in the midbass and that cannot be fixed with EQ. Depending on the music you are listening to, that can goes fine or just be horrible.

[@hackinghifi4247]

Interesting, to me they sound very punchy surprised that’s the case.

[@alejandroaranda3155]

I’m between the CCA CRA and the Zero’s. Anyone know which one would best be for power/volume? I generally like a really good slammy bass, mainly so I can literally feel my click/metronome. I’m a musician/drummer and I mainly use iems for performing and rehearsals. Soundstage is a plus.

[@hackinghifi4247]

These don’t have the greatest bass. For $20 the QKZ HBB are very good, I think better than the others you mentioned.

[@irfank1896]

since I'm not well versed in these things glad you said cra's trash soundstaging, because that was my first impression. might try salzero

[@hackinghifi4247]

It’s a very good set, just depends on what you’re into sound profile wise.

[@thomasre9382]

Best imaging for gaming, outta the chu/quarks and CCA CRA and7hz zero?

[@hackinghifi4247]

7hz zero is best for sure. Best imaging and soundstage I’ve used at a low price point.

[@dpbs]

Hello brother, i am more into clean instrumentals and vocal clarity in songs. I want to be able to hear the vocals crisp and even the instruments with clarity. Not much of a basshead though. I want to even enjoy music like the avengers portal soundtrack with the trumpets clear and all. I'm confused between CCA CRA and 7hz zero. This would be my 1st IEM. Could you help me with ur inputs in choosing between the two? Thanks...

[@hackinghifi4247]

I’d do the zero. It’s more balanced but less exciting. The cra is very bass and treble heavy which can be fun but leads to fatigue.

[@andishiddiq5076]

Do you think salnotes zero ($17-20)worth upgrading to dunu titan s(80$)?

[@hackinghifi4247]

The dunu titan s is my daily driver. It’s got a great neutral sound that works for just about anything. I’d definitely recommend.

[@techspecgaming4336]

Bro which one to pick i am confused 7hz zero or qkz x hbb

[@hackinghifi4247]

The 7hz zero for I imaging and detail hbb for big bass and laid back sound but less imaging precision

[@erhanozgul5301]

I was thinking of buying an olina og or titan s But you talk about 7hz zero so nice that i could settle down with for only 20$ 😊. Can you compare 7hz zero to olina and titan? R they comparable? (Even i buy one of them i may end up buying zero next to them because of you😊)

[@hackinghifi4247]

You’re very kind thanks! Iems have come a long way in the last year. Price points have moved down for similar performance. The 7hz zero is very nice but can be fatiguing in the upper vocal range. I’d pair it with the QKZ hbb for a change of pass for something with a lot of bass and more laid back vocals. If you’d like something more neutral I’d just get the moondrop LAN - very good performance similar to the titan s for much lower price point.

[@erhanozgul5301]

@@hackinghifi4247 i said under your other reply (to my other question) that "i had chu and would not go for Lan" but do you think it is comparable to titan s? Then its somethingelse. How does Lan compare to Chu. Arent they similar in soun profile.

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@erhanozgul5301 they’re similar but the lan has less bass and a crispier sound. Nothing wrong with the titan it’s beautifully made if you want to go that way.

[@erhanozgul5301]

@@hackinghifi4247 less bass and crisper sound is what i m looking for. I will also research(focus) on Lan THANK YOU VERY MUCH :-)

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@erhanozgul5301 you’re welcome! I’d also look at picking up some aftermarket tips they make a big difference. My favorite are the spinfit cp100 plus. Many tips that come in the box don’t seal well in my ears but they work great.

[@kafismokie]

thanks for the video man. appreciate it :)

[@hackinghifi4247]

You’re welcome thanks for watching!

[@Smzxe]

Ok I'm buying 7Hz zero once it gets in my country Not sure about warranty if it's defective

[@hackinghifi4247]

You don’t know about the warranty but it’s an excellent value

[@izuvatch]

Great review!

[@hackinghifi4247]

You’re very kind thank you!

[@hackinghifi4247]

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[@elyad67]

Nice review I think ill grab them for the vocals, bcs the ikko oh10 does not shine in that department, do you know how the ikkos compare to the 50 dollar truthear zeros, which one has better bass the soundstage. Thanks

[@hackinghifi4247]

I did a video on that one as well if you want to check it out. I mention the salnotes in it as well. Thanks!

[@hackinghifi4247]

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[@elyad67]

@Hacking HiFi Thanks, ust checked it out and I will go with the salnotes becaude like you said the zeros are quite similair to the ikko oh10 already, while the salnotes have a different sound signature to them! They are insane at only 20 usd in my opinion

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@elyad67 I think that’s a good move. Listen to hotel California live from hell freezes over album with them and they’ve got a crazy soundstage.

[@NamTran-xc2ip]

U just had a new sub. I have some questions which might sound dumb. Blon03, kz zsn, chu,… we can always eq them to sound like the zero right? The technical performance of them are all the same ? Also, how does moondrop kato compared to hd560s? ( I know it’s iem vs overhear). In details, clarity, soundstage, instrument separation,…

[@hackinghifi4247]

Thanks for subscribing! You can always eq which will almost always increase the sound quality in my experience but doesn’t make them all sound identical. It’ll just make it sound like a better version of itself if that makes sense. Regarding the kato I never tried it because what I heard was it sound like a better version of the aria which I already had and wasn’t super impressed with. Above $100 I’d recommend checking out the s12 shuoer iem it’s really amazing for the price.

[@NamTran-xc2ip]

@@hackinghifi4247 how does the aria compared to overeat, like the hd560s?

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@NamTran-xc2ip hd560s has much less bass and more balanced sound. If you want something that sounds like the 560s the salnotes zero is probably your best bet. If you want to spend more money the titan s is very nice but you lose some sound stage.

[@jb678901]

@@hackinghifi4247 Agreed; my S12's at $141 on sale have been a relative bargain considering the sound performance, build quality, fit. Case is nice, but a bit small. Otherwise, it's damn near perfect for me. Other IEM's that I found excellent at their resp. price are the Tripowin x HBB Olina ($99; modded with only insertion of the extra nozzle filter that came with the set), Tin HiFi T3+ (~$68), modded Heart Mirror (~$40; modded by adding a vent filter closest to the nozzle's base), and the TKZK Wave (~$40, w/aftermarket tips that slightly restrict the large nozzle, to reduce brightness slightly). Frankly, the S12's are my routine/mainstay IEM these days (i.e. personal endgame IEM). I am also using the TKZK Waves often...I like the tuning, fit and design of these hidden gems. Most of the other IEM's I purchased before getting the S12's have been collecting a bit of dust (e.g. KZ ZexPro/CRN, DQ6, CCA CRA, CCA NRA, KZ ZS10 Pro, Tripowin Lea).

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@jb678901 hey I have a lot of those too! Love the modded olinas. I’m actually reviewing the heart mirrors now with some different tips. Have enjoyed the final e series the most so far with them. I haven’t heard of the waves I’ll check them out! Love hidden gems. If you don’t mind explaining how to do the heart mirror mod I’d like to give that a try. The Lea have nice tone to fall asleep to so I use them for that a lot.

[@mukuldev5162]

not enough high-mid, sound stage is rather small/narrow, i liked chu's better

[@hackinghifi4247]

I hear them differently but everyone’s ears are different. Ikon e I changed the tips on the chu they became more laid back and warm which I really enjoy.

[@kontrolenthusiast1099]

Rec buying if already own and like KZ CRN and don't have the dough for OH10?

[@hackinghifi4247]

What kind of music and sound signature do you like?

[@kontrolenthusiast1099]

@@hackinghifi4247 Hey thnx for quick reply and in-depth review. Classic Rock, 80s/90s Rock, New Wave, Electronic Instrumental like Tangerine Dream, Jean Michael Jarre, Hans Zimmer. Balanced/clean/clear/with a little color, slightly elevated bass. Best headphones Verum One MKII planar similar sound to Audeze lcd 2. Listened to sound demo by Dan's Audio Reviews comparing t3+ < OH10 < S12, liked the upward progression in SQ just don't have the disposable income right know.

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@kontrolenthusiast1099 sure thing glad to help. I haven’t done a video for it yet but I think you’d enjoy the new truthears zero. I’ve been listening to it for over a week trying to describe it. With spin fit tips it becomes the hardest slamming bass iem I’ve listen to with relaxed mids and treble. It’s amazing for rock/rap - enter sandman where he’s hitting the Tom’s at the beginning made me smile it had such a sense of impact. You lose a little in the vocals through. With spring tips (buy a size up from what you’d buy with something else, I had to buy the xl) it becomes really nicely balanced with impactful bass but the mids and treble come back and are right in the pocket of where I like them. Don’t know if you can afford those at the moment but that’s what I’d recommend. If you can’t swing that the bl03 from blon is a good option but check out my review. It requires some tinkering for me. With the spring tips the truth ears sound pretty close to the oh10. They’re cheapest from a Chinese site like Linsoul.

[@kontrolenthusiast1099]

@@hackinghifi4247 Like many have said it's only $20. Mod with transparent tape over the vent, gain 2db bass. Also optional, place a piece of Micropore tape on filter, (smaller than the filter), it will push peak over to 4kz, softens the intensity of upper mids and increases the dip after to soften treble, making it more forgiving (credit to Paul Wasabii) Will look for your review of truthears zero.

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@kontrolenthusiast1099 good to know! I haven’t got into modding much yet but looking forward to learning about it.

[@AaranCM]

Hello my friend, can I ask a quick question. Are the spinfit tips you bought comparable to the red zero tips in size?

[@hackinghifi4247]

The spinfit tips are comparable but they offer an xl option which is better for one of my ears. That is larger than anything that comes with these.

[@idreesnihad]

CCA CRA or Salnotes Zero or Blon-03 which one gives the detailed sound. Vocals and instrument separation with great sound stage. I don't like bass. If any other IEM sounds better than above pls suggest. Moreover I should get a natural sound.

[@hackinghifi4247]

The zero is the best for what you described. If you want something better you’ll have to spend significant more.

[@idreesnihad]

@@hackinghifi4247 | No concern with the budget. Kindly suggest better if any.

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@idreesnihad check oyt the letshuoer s12. I did a review on that as well. Thanks for watching!

[@zacc1602]

I read your comments on reddit Im going to buy iem, i came from 90s guy I want to hear vocals of Whitney Houston/karen carpenters/david pomeranz/Tiffany At the same time i like metals like AC/DC Metallica pantera, eagles , and jazz or orchestra

[@hackinghifi4247]

Thanks for watching! What’s your budget?

[@zacc1602]

@@hackinghifi4247 my budget before was 80$, but my wife gets mad on me, so i decided to 30$ 😂 thanks bro

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@zacc1602 for $30 these are an excellent option that work well for anything. Pick them up but you may also want to pick up some spinfit cp100 plus tips they make a big difference for me. I think they have a sample pack with different sizes on Amazon for $15. It’s hard to get an iem that does well for both vocalists and rock but these do a good job on the budget side.

[@zacc1602]

@@hackinghifi4247 thank you again bro fairly 👍 appreciated, noted

[@zacc1602]

@@hackinghifi4247 sorry follow up question do i need dongle?my phone is redminote10 pro

[@paroxymal7688]

It surely couldn't be better than tangzu wan'er sg right.

[@hackinghifi4247]

The Wan’er is newer and I believe a better set all around.

[@rafidshahriarpranto588]

Is it better than zex pro?

[@hackinghifi4247]

Quality has come a long way lately. I had the zex but not the zex pro. I would say this is a much better iem than that zex but unsure on the pro. I feel pretty comfortable saying this is a better iem though.

[@srnk3416]

Pls use a plain light color mat or something on the desk 🙏 Unable to see the items clearly

[@hackinghifi4247]

thanks for the feedback yes moving towards a better setup now.

[@Smzxe]

Ordered 7Hz let's see how it sounds I was very confused between Chu and 7hz for 3 days First up I thought 7hz zero has mic Then I looked it up it didn't Chu has mic and controls Then I was so confused which one to buy I was deciding from two days 😂 After thinking watching reviews everywhere Does CHU has whisling treble or something like that everyone talking about? I really want to listen to Chu but due to budget restrictions I go with the zero I wanted to give a try to the Chu but can't....... How do the sound compare which has most clarity I mean nicer mids and nicer treble (Non shouty non fatiguing) And which one got better soundstage overall Do you prefer Chu in any other kinda music Or 7hz zero all day everyday?

[@hackinghifi4247]

I go in depth comparing them in the video. But the short answer is the 7hz are better in just about every way but with the right tips on them the chus are very nice and more laid back sounding. I wouldn’t use spring tips that come with them for it though the add more harshness to the sound where they really need tips that relax them a little and increase bass.

[@khandave143]

Do you recommend buying an upgrade cable for those? I'm probably getting the SP foam tips just in case

[@hackinghifi4247]

The cable is fine but if you like something with a nice texture they aren’t very soft. They don’t link up or anything that’s the biggest thing for me. I’d definitely try different tips if you ever have fit problems. The ones that came with these didn’t fit me at all.

[@MakarPirog]

what source did you have for 7hz zero

[@hackinghifi4247]

These were all used with the United States version of the lightning apple dongle. Thanks for watching!

[@pizzaslayer381]

cra or the zero best for watching movie?

[@hackinghifi4247]

The zero has better depth of field I would think it would be better.

[@fuad000100]

Hello. Resolution wise how do the zeros fare against the sets you mentioned in the video?

[@hackinghifi4247]

Hi thanks for watching. I just got in a new budget set the Tangzu Wan’er S.G. I’m still testing it but you may want to check that one out. Upon first listen it gives much more fullness than the zero with similar detail. But I haven’t had time to do a full check yet.

[@fuad000100]

@@hackinghifi4247 Expecting a new video then😁

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@fuad000100 yessir 😀

[@fate5806]

Upper mids on chu is quite shouty sometimes with slightly metallic-ish, on salzero more correct sounding. og Cra, already hated it since I bought it. Too Fast decay bass, agrresive lower treble & mid treble, claustrophobic resessed midrange, sibilant

[@hackinghifi4247]

Thanks for watching! I agree on the chu with spring tips but replacing them cleaned up the mids for me.

[@fate5806]

@@hackinghifi4247 yes sir, I've swapped it with aet08 but overall loving Salzero more

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@fate5806 I haven’t used those tips yet are they worth picking up? What do they sound like?

[@fate5806]

@@hackinghifi4247 improve bass, mid more thicker

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@fate5806 I may try them out thank you!

[@pswatches]

Does the 7hz cable fit blon 03 out of the box? 😅

[@hackinghifi4247]

They’re different styles of cable. The bl03 is recessed and the 7hz is standard so they won’t be the same.

[@pradp_01]

For gaming which is best??

[@hackinghifi4247]

I like the 7hz zero for gaming it does an excellent job.

[@griverniere]

How does this iem perform compared to moondrop aria/aria SE in the context of bass, detail and soundstage?

[@hackinghifi4247]

Thanks for watching! Much better imaging and soundstage which gives a better sense of detail. Not as much bass but enough to sound good.

[@griverniere]

@@hackinghifi4247 thank you for the response, are you saying overall the salnotes zero perform better than the aria/aria SE even with cheaper price?

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@griverniere yes but different tuning. If you want something with more bass I think the truthears zero (confusing same name) is a better bet. I use those with spring tips and they’re wow. I’ll be doing another video soon on them.

[@griverniere]

@@hackinghifi4247 okay then, i'll be waiting for your review, thank you so much man!

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@griverniere sure thing! I appreciate you watching.

[@eishuno]

Is it good for metal?

[@hackinghifi4247]

For this price range it’s excellent. If you can swing a more expensive set the $50 truthears zero gives you significantly more bass impact and separation with its dual driver setup so does better keeping up on busier tracks.

[@mve9899]

It reaaaaally depends on which genres of metal! Heavy, thrash, prog and the Zeros are a perfect match. Death metal and its subgenres would need a tad more bass impact, I prefer the CRAs over the Zeros because of that fact (while the Zeros are objectively better, I just really enjoy the treble and bass boost of the CRAs :D). Think about wether you prefer a more clear and analytical signature (good for clean vocals, melodic riffs, shredding solos) or more bass&treble (good for grunts, blastbeats, 'heavier' and 'gnawier' rythm guitars). More on the Heavy Metal side: Zeros More on the Death/Extreme Metal side: CRAs Black Metal could go either way, there it just comes down to wether or not you like bass in your black metal This is, ofcourse, based on my own opinion and experiences I hope this was helpful, feel free to ask further questions

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@mve9899 I’m not a metal enthusiast so this is really helpful! I like a little Metallica and pantera here are there but that’s about it. Thanks for chiming in.

[@mve9899]

@@hackinghifi4247 yeah for Pantera and Metallica, the Zeros are definitely the better pick! Both bands know a lot of shredding solos and are not very "nasty" in their guitar work, like more Extreme Metal bands are. Pantera is one of my favs aswell (Cemetery Gates

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@mve9899 let me know some of your other favorite songs from other metal genres if you don’t mind I’ll check them out!

[@ShahariarMahmud]

I've been planning to get myself an IEM for some time now. I've decided between CRA and Zero. The region where I live the 7hz zero is about 8$ more than the CCA CRA. Now I was thinking is the zero worth the extra price over the cca? (dollars cost a lotin my currency, 8$ is about 1000 so it's a good amount of money)

[@hackinghifi4247]

Probably depends on the type of music you listen to. If you like bass a lot the blon bl03 are still an excellent budget option to look at. You might check how much they cost where you are. You just need to make sure you get a good seal with those some people have fit issues. If you like music with instruments and like bigger soundstage and superstition of instruments I’d get the 7hz. They’re probably better for vocals as well they are very clear.

[@ShahariarMahmud]

@@hackinghifi4247 Thanks a ton for replying. I checked blon3 before and I don't think it's really what I'm looking for. I've checked most of the IEMs in this price range. I would've gotten the zeros no question asked if the cca didn't cost much lower meaning I can also easily spend on eartips if i get the cca. I just need to know if the extra money for the zeros is justified you know since you said for some people it's the only one they can get. It's a little bit complicated for me about the music I listen to. My music taste isn't really fixed, it depends more on my mood. For example I might listen to Mozart and then Eminem in the same hour.

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@ShahariarMahmud You’re welcome! Glad I can help. the 7hz are much more adaptable to different music. They have good enough bass for rap but have good enough vocals and instrumentals for movie soundtracks etc. I think you’ll be quite happy with them. You may not need new tips like I do. Many people like them with the standard tips but for me none of these fit well. If it’s expensive for you to add tips you might try them with what they come with first.

[@Smzxe]

@@ShahariarMahmud don't buy CRA simply if you don't like treble Bhai I tried CRA treble treble is just too much sharp brittle and harsh I'd definitely say either get the 7hz zero if you like clarity or go with Blon Bl03 if you like bass Moondrop CHU is having some issues.... One side stops working after some time I tried EDX ultra also these are worse version of CRA

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@Smzxe I agree with you Sam

[@Smzxe]

Got the 7Hz Salnotes Zero id say the lack bass and they lack popping sounds and background Instruments sounds They kinda sound like audio technica M20x They are good tho good clean transparent sound separation is nice But nothing special In a song named Zaalima they lack instrumental separation and they lack the kick in low end My Sennheiser CX 180 sounds way better just much better low end kick fuller clean bass much better mids and much better treble In Zaalima song the instruments separation in CX180 is unbelievable the soundstage is much wider with better imaging I can't believe a $7 earphone sounds better than $20 CX180 sounds better than M40x and HD6XX tho 😂

[@hackinghifi4247]

I’d love to try those cx180s but unfortunately haven’t been able to find them anywhere

[@BriefOutline]

You don't know shit about music dude. Its almost flat of sound signature. The bass of it will responds if there is a bass goin on.

[@diazzsama]

The zero won in soundstage against OH10? Damn I was thinking getting the OH10. I want soundstage and separation.

[@hackinghifi4247]

The oh10 is awesome and gives you a clear sense of separation in instruments and is very detailed. But it’s all pretty close to you there’s not much space to it to my ears. I didn’t think of mentioning the Olina in the video as well, if you’re wanting something a little more expensive from the zero it has very cool sense of space and is almost 3D with some songs. Doesn’t have a ton of bass though and mids and highs can get a little spicy so I added about se filter to it and that seems to help me.

[@silva29]

15:04-15:29. Thank you.

[@hackinghifi4247]

You’re very welcome! Thanks for watching.

[@migueltiu4990]

thank you very much sir!

[@hackinghifi4247]

You’re welcome!

[@emjay9733]

Very tempting…

[@hackinghifi4247]

They’re excellent!

[@kyron42]

12:44 do you mean hurts all your brains or just a few

[@hackinghifi4247]

Most of them 😀

[@malachkah]

Cca cra or 7hz zeros for rock/metal music?

[@hackinghifi4247]

I'd take the zeros they have much better staging and instrument separation and a more balanced sound.

[@malachkah]

@@hackinghifi4247 Thanks

[@AbadyAngel]

I just bought the chu and this video made me sad :(

[@hackinghifi4247]

The chu are still excellent in their own right. You just may want to try some different tips with them if you aren’t getting a good bass response and the mids seem shouty. There’s always something new coming out in this hobby. 😀

[@AbadyAngel]

@@hackinghifi4247 Ok fine >_>.

[@icedcoffeecapricorn]

@@hackinghifi4247 Any advice on how to control the treble on the Chu? Say different ear tips or EQ? Thanks in advance.

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@icedcoffeecapricorn I got you 😀kzbin.info/www/bejne/pavPgGmqlrufpK8

[@Smzxe]

@@icedcoffeecapricorn how do you feel about Chu sound? Is it too shouty or Whistling??? When cymbals crash does it sounds too intense?

[@ITSME-ys7hb]

Great!!😀😀

[@hackinghifi4247]

Thanks for watching!

[@ITSME-ys7hb]

@@hackinghifi4247 Thanks for replying!! Love from India😀😀 I want to ask i hd CHU, should i buy this one too?? And how can it compared to Blon BL03??🙂🙂

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@ITSME-ys7hb love from USA! Blon bl03 has much more bass it is excellent for rock, metal, hip hop/rap etc. but for me require getting new tips for them to stay sealed in my ears. both of these sets (chu and zero) are more mid forward so the vocals are out front with the rest of the instruments and bass being behind the vocal range. If you’re interested in something with strong bass I’d recommend the truthears zero (same name it’s confusing) which has much bigger bass but it’s about $50.

[@ITSME-ys7hb]

@@hackinghifi4247 ok done sir!! Much appreciated fr ur reply!!🙂

[@hackinghifi4247]

@@ITSME-ys7hb thanks for watching and the trust!

[@bladecup]

Ye they are winner because of deattachable cable,but everything else kinda fail,and deattachable cables is must,since i have like dozen of deattacable cables and mmcx connectors,from some stupid reason drivers get blown much faster than cables get destroyed,plus amazing zeros have microphonics,even there isnt a microphone;)tried difrent cable,same nonsense,tried friends zero again microphonics,but hey,who gives a shit,bass is more important than clarity...

[@hackinghifi4247]

Definitely not my experience - didn’t hear any microphonics at all. Thanks for watching!

[@Smzxe]

Might be a preference for you I like bass yes but I prefer more cleaner mids with great low end rumble in the sub bass And a nicer sparkly treble Which has no peeks shoutiness or sharp treble Only nicer relaxed treble I prefer more sub bass with bit boosted mids with cleaner sound