Victas V 22 Double Extra review

[@Keean_TTRealm]

Hey Dario, i’m quite a new viewer to your channel, as I was curious about the ZQH 90. I also tried the V>22 before and found it to be a pretty decent rubber. After watching this video am quite convinced to try it out !

[@DarioGrd]

Hi. I hope you liked what you have seen so far and that you will continue to follow my channel. If you haven't noticed, I made a separate video for the ZQH 90 -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKOQgJmkh7eba6M

[@crazypids723]

Very good reviews! I am subscribing even if I am Spanish. Thank you for the English subtitles! One question, do you know if the rest of the Dignics series (mainly 05 and 08) are now less durable than a few years ago as you said of Dignics 09C? How durable is this V22 compared to a Tenergy 05 or a Dignics 05? Thank you!

[@DarioGrd]

Thank you. I'm glad you like it. I only noticed it with the D09c, there are no problems with the D80. Also D80 and D05 last longer than the Tenergy series. So far, V>22 seems great to me, except for what I mentioned in the video, that the topsheet cracked a little in 2 places along the edge. The sponge is still in good condition and the topsheet has no signs of oxidation. But for now, I've been using it for 3 and a half months, and that's only on BH, where normally my rubbers wear less than on FH.

[@SixTTPowerMoves]

I totally agree.. My D05 wore out more in short time compared to D09c which was unhurt..

[@billyao6440]

Hi there, me again. Great review! V22 seems pretty good to me - only with one problem - the weight. It's 4 grams heavier than D80 which could be a deal breaker to me. I'm trying to control the total weight to be less than 185 grams (My FZD ALC with H3 39dg BS and D80 is just a little below 185g). With this on my BH, the weight goes to 189g - a bit too heavy for me - makes the flick harder.

[@DarioGrd]

Hi. Yes, I completely agree with you. My racket is now 195 grams and that causes me the most problems in the FH-BH transition. Much more often I am late and hit the ball with the edge.

[@billyao6440]

@@DarioGrd Totally agree. I flick a lot on serves. That 4-gram diff is very noticeable. I will give it a go to see if it's better than D80. Especially the weight performance tradeoff.

[@nealtran1856]

question: how does it compare to V15 Extra?

[@DarioGrd]

I haven't been able to try the V15 yet, but I plan to, but I'll probably try the V20 first

[@fernandodepaula6242]

nice video dario! congratulations every video is a learning!

[@DarioGrd]

thanks for your support

[@Nik-up2td]

Thank you very much for the review! This sounds really nice! Are you boosting the V 22 Double Extra?

[@DarioGrd]

Thnx. No, there is no booster or any other add-ons :)

[@saadalnjoum8809]

Hi brother Dario :) Can you tell me please how the arc/ trejectory in dignics 80 rubber compare to victas V>22 ?? i have V>22 Its very good rubber but it has low arc! Is dignics 80 has higher arc maby? Thank you in advance.

[@DarioGrd]

Hi :) I would say that both rubbers have very similar throw angle and trajectory, medium. If it was too low for you with the V22, then it will probably be the same with the D80. So maybe it's better to try D05, which has a higher throw angle.

[@saadalnjoum8809]

i will go with dignics 05 then 😀 Thank you so much for replay, and for your effort🙏🏾

[@DarioGrd]

@@saadalnjoum8809 no problem. I hope you will be satisfied with the D05.

[@JouTuubi]

How this compares to Rakza Z what you were used before on backhand?

[@DarioGrd]

They are two quite different rubbers. You can look at my review where the Rakza Z was included (kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2nTpnmvrMpjnsk), so you can also compare how I rate each rubber in a particular segment.

[@JouTuubi]

@@DarioGrd I watched that already and I think you gave better over all score for Razka 😃

[@DarioGrd]

@@JouTuubi hahaha 😄 The Rakza Z was good for me at that moment, but now with the V22 I would never go back to the Rakza Z. Not because the Rakza Z is not a good rubber, but because I realized that a type of rubber like the V22 suits me much better for BH. The Rakza Z had too big throw angle and was too slow for my BH.

[@Shylfaen]

Which shoes do you wear in the video? Looks like mizuno?

[@DarioGrd]

Hehehe :) A very interesting question, which no one has asked in any video so far, and it's interesting because I'm currently preparing the next video in which there will be a review of Mizuno table tennis shoes. These are my old Mizuno Wave Medal Z2. The review I am preparing will feature a newer model.

[@Shylfaen]

Lol, thanks! Looking forward 😎

[@chrisj2841]

Hi Dario, I just got a table and I also have the same robot as you and I am looking for some advice how to improve. My rating is about 1000 in my club so modest, I consider myself low ranked amateur. If you are interested let me know in comments, thanks anyways !

[@DarioGrd]

Hi. Take a look at this video of mine... kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmOqk5uMo5urjqc I think it can help you a lot in your progress

[@MrMagJon]

Great review as always! :) Would you ever consider reviewing the Tibhar Hybrid MK (normal/Pro/FX) and compare them to other hybrid rubbers?

[@DarioGrd]

Thank you. I'm glad you like it. I have the Hybrid MK in mind and plan to try it, but I can't promise when that will be. I currently have several rubbers and blades that I already own and are waiting for a review. I'm also currently preparing something a little bigger, so soon I'll talk about it on this channel.

[@MrMagJon]

@@DarioGrd Sounds exciting, can't wait! :)

[@sebastianjo752]

Great video, i bought a 09c 2 weeks ago i hope mine holds up longer

[@DarioGrd]

Thnx. I also hope it lasts longer for you. A lot depends on the style of play and of course how often you play. The rubber also lasted much longer for me in BH, several months without problems.

[@91bajaka]

How has the V22 been holding up so far in terms of durability and quality / reliability?

[@DarioGrd]

So far, V>22 seems great to me, except for what I mentioned in the video, that the topsheet cracked a little in several places along the edge. I have two, I use the older one for testing, and I have the newer one on the blade with which I play matches. Even this older one is still in solid condition.

[@91bajaka]

@@DarioGrd thanks! Sounds like a long lasting one!

[@SixTTPowerMoves]

Can u put up a detailed comparison of Victas V22 Double Extra vs the undisputed expensive King DIgnics 09c ?... There are no such comparative reviews anywhere on KZbin both in text and video format..!! (P.S. - My Forehand topspin action is very similar to you).. I am using FZ SZLC with D09c on FH and YRakza Z on BH..

[@DarioGrd]

In the past few years I have done several comparisons of the D09c with different rubbers, so I don't mean to force the D09c anymore :) You have, for example, my comparison of D09c, Rakza Z and Codexx EL Pro 52 here kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2nTpnmvrMpjnsk

[@SixTTPowerMoves]

Which forehand rubber are u using right now and see it for your long term FH future rubber,?...

[@DarioGrd]

@@SixTTPowerMoves DHS H3 Neo National BS 40... I will most likely play with that rubber for a long time

[@Pavle662]

Cao Dario - koji je razlog za promenu drva? :) Jel ovo drvo bolje od FZD ALC?

[@DarioGrd]

Bok. Nisam imao u planu mijenjati drvo, bio sam jako zadovoljan s FZD ALC, ali evo uzeo sam ovo drvo za test i oduševilo me više nego sam očekivao. Možeš pogledati moju detaljnu recenziju i objašnjenje po čemu je bolji od FZD ALC na ovom linku kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKOQgJmkh7eba6M

[@volodymyrzhuk7547]

Thank you for the video. Great! Could you advice me please, what is better, slower blade and faster rubbers or vice versa? Example: my current blade is Fan Bo B2X, it is Off blade, sound is 1350 hz. My rubbers are : Rakza 7 - FH, Xiom Asia - BH. I want to replace R7 for some faster. My level is 320 score. I'm thinking of : to buy Zhen Jike Alc and stay with the same rubbers or purchase 2 new Victas 22 and put them to my B2X blade. I have G1 as well, want to try it for FH instead of Rakza7. Thanks

[@DarioGrd]

It all depends on the player's preferences. There are no rules and there is no better option, only what suits you personally. I prefer a fast and stiff blade, a slower rubber on the FH with a lot of spin, and a faster rubber on the BH.

[@volodymyrzhuk7547]

@DarioGrd thank you. Interesting, one of your rubber set is: D09C on FH and Rakza Z or Victas 22 on the BH. That is not combination as you advice me... What combination do you mean? What are possible combinations from you experience: FH - slower, BH - faster.?

[@DarioGrd]

@@volodymyrzhuk7547 My racket that I've been playing with for a while now... Blade: Joola ZQH 90, FH: DHS H3 Neo BS 40 deg, BH: Victas V>22

[@jacekn.ch.9832]

Hola Dario. Con que goma juegas ahora en backhand? Saludos desde Madrid.

[@DarioGrd]

Hola. En BH actualmente estoy jugando con Victas V>22 Double Extra.

[@jacekn.ch.9832]

@@DarioGrd gracias

[@anitasercer784]

Bok Dario, možeš recenzitirati glayzer normalnu gumu

[@DarioGrd]

Bok. Hvala na prijedlogu, ali za ovu godinu sam gotov s recenzijama guma. Do kraja godine je plan objaviti još 4 videa s malo drugačijim sadržajem od recenzija guma. Tako da obični Glayzer možda bude došao na red sljedeće godine, prije sigurno ne, a do tad možete pogledati recenziju Glayzer 09c koji sam objavio prije 6 mjeseci.

[@phenthohn7303]

Great video! I would like to have the following questions regarding the rubber. - You have mentioned it does not have maximum spin. How is the speed and spin compared to the Dignics09C? - Have you experienced slippage with this rubber when topspinning with shallow or any other angles? - How is the durability?

[@DarioGrd]

I always rate the rubbers I review in the same segments, and these ratings can easily be compared. If there is a problem with stopping the video and you want to view the entire table in peace, I always put a link to the entire table in the video description, so here is the table for V22 (drive.google.com/file/d/1YQYUj_13tQMbNGt4NbRFfksYal_ETEbj/view?usp=drive_link) and D09c (drive.google.com/file/d/1h_rC1Xh7MQCfHZQh8yALGsHsJ_g-bDon/view?usp=drive_link) I didn't experience any slippage. As for durability, I'd say it's average. The only thing I noticed is that after a certain time the topsheet starts to crack at the edges. This has happened to me with both rubbers I've had so far, but it doesn't really affect the performance.

[@phenthohn7303]

@@DarioGrd Thanks for the tables! One more question, how much of a "kick" have you experienced from the table when topspinning?

[@DarioGrd]

​@@phenthohn7303 np It has enough kick, but not like the T05 or MXP. It suits me, because I don't like my rubber to be too bouncy, because then I have problems in the short game.

[@phenthohn7303]

@@DarioGrd Thank you!

[@Unpiloted0922]

Have you tried the Dignics 05? If yes, how did you like it and how did it compare to the Victas? From what I've seen, it's a pretty popular rubber if you aren't going the hybrid route

[@DarioGrd]

Yes I tried D05. You can check out my previous video from a couple of weeks ago, the D80 review, where I compare the D80 to the D05. I prefer the Victas V > 22 for my style of play. The D05 has more end spin, but with the V > 22 it's easier to create spin. Also V > 22 is better for me in the block and has a lower throw angle.

[@Unpiloted0922]

​@@DarioGrdI'll check it out, thanks. I'm using the Fastarc G1 on my bh and I'm struggling a bit with generating spin, especially when trying to lift undersping balls. It's definitely a technique but mainly mental block issue on my part, but it would be nice to get another rubber that makes it easier to lift balls so I can slowly develop a more attacking mindset from my bh side. It's something I've been struggling with for far too long and it's a weakness that opponents often take advantage of in matches.

[@DarioGrd]

@@Unpiloted0922 It depends on your technique, it is possible that it will be easier for you to create spin with the V22, but again there is a possibility that you will need something even softer to create spin even easier. But on the other hand, you have to be careful, for example, too soft rubbers don't suit me, with them you are limited in terms of the amount of spin.

[@Unpiloted0922]

@@DarioGrd makes sense. I normally use K3 on the fh. For today's training session I decided to switch the racket around to see how it would play. Generating spin and lifting backspin on the bh with the K3 is definitely easier (which would make sense given it's a hybrid) and the G1 worked surpisingly well on the FH side. I'll stick to this combo for a few days and see how it goes.

[@michelerossi8238]

How is the durability?

[@DarioGrd]

So far, it seems great to me, except for what I mentioned in the video, that the topsheet cracked a little in 2 places along the edge. But considering that I play with it on the BH, and for me the rubber always lasts longer on BH than on FH, then that should also be taken into account.

[@sternritterhugo]

Racket viscaria bro ????

[@DarioGrd]

if you ask what blade I play with... it's not a Viscaria but a Joola ZQH 90

[@sasasushi]

Kad ce biti Hybrid mk Pro? Pozdrav Saša. Samo jako 👌

[@DarioGrd]

Hvala na prijedlogu... da, malo sam zanemario Tibhar. Nadam se da budem uspio i nju recenzirati, trenutno je u planu 5 guma. Ni jedna od tih 5 nije Tibhar, ali bude valjda i Hybrid MK nekad došao na red 😊

[@sasasushi]

@@DarioGrd mora da bude mk pro. 👌

[@dikenization]

Hi tell me the type of handle(ST,FL,AN)depends on the feeling where the weight shift in the handle or blade?? Thanks.

[@DarioGrd]

Hi. The handle is FL. For my detailed blade review, watch the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKOQgJmkh7eba6M There you can see exactly in cm where the center of balance is and other things about the blade.

[@MrDanmorgan07]

What a great review as always. I love to hear your reasoning on how you select a rubber. My only comment is that it would be nice to see the completed charts on your reviews for later comparison. By the way, your English translations are the best in this market.

[@DarioGrd]

thnx@@MrDanmorgan07 . I'm glad you like it. As for your suggestion for the ratings, I'm always happy to accept a good suggestion, especially if it can help the table tennis community. I created a folder on google drive in which I added documents from the last few reviews, and I also edited the descriptions of those videos and added a link to the document. The link to the entire folder is: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fsLbVQc5JtmH2ELE-Q0ztYy1-0zXcCU1?usp=drive_link

[@arashspirit]

Hi Dario! Many thanks for this video! Have you ever reviewed the Joola Trinity blade? If so, would Victas V-22 make sense on it as bh rubber in terms of compatibility?

[@DarioGrd]

@@arashspirit Hi. I've never tried Trinity blade so it's hard for me to comment, but I see no reason why the V22 wouldn't be compatible with that type of blade.

[@Blackain66]

have u tried the v20 too and how is it compared to the 22 ? would be nice to know

[@DarioGrd]

sorry, I haven't tried the V>20 so I can't compare

[@Blackain66]

@@DarioGrdah ok, any reason why not btw? they are supposed to be in a similar category from what i read?

[@DarioGrd]

@@Blackain66 There is no specific reason. This is the first Victas rubber I tried and I was so impressed that it became my new BH rubber. I later tried TRIPLE Double Extra. And that's all I've tried from Victas, but I plan to try some of their other rubbers and blades.

[@butters_senpaii]

Will you post the haifu national white booster review soon?

[@DarioGrd]

Hi. Before I make a review, I would like to try it on a new rubber that has not been boosted before, at least twice to see the duration. For now, I tried the booster on a rubber that had already been boosted with the yellow version , and I put the white version on a new rubber a few days ago. So you can expect a review in about a month.

[@butters_senpaii]

@@DarioGrd sounds good, i will watch it! After reboosting a rubber with white (after yellow), do you notice any difference in the feeling?

[@DarioGrd]

@@butters_senpaii yes, you can feel the difference between white and yellow. not big, but you can feel it.

[@rockys7726]

I use the exact rubber on my BH. At first I really liked it but after a while I noticed that it's a little unstable. On slow to medium shots it loses some control and doesn't place the ball where you want it. For that reason I ended up switching to Xiom Omega VII.

[@DarioGrd]

I didn't notice that. What blade did you use?

[@rockys7726]

@@DarioGrd I tried it on a ZJK T5000 and Amultart.

[@DarioGrd]

@@rockys7726 In fact, completely different blades in composition than the ones I tried on. I guess that's because of that.

[@rockys7726]

@@DarioGrd maybe, but at slower speeds the blade doesn't have as much affect.

[@DarioGrd]

I agree with that, but the blade always has at least a little influence on any type of shot, and maybe just that little bit is enough to get that accuracy and control you say you lack. I don't know if that's the case, I guess, because I didn't have any problems with slower and medium shots.

[@seanbauer7933]

What rubber are you playing on the FH?

[@DarioGrd]

DHS Hurricane 3 NEO National BS 40 deg

[@andreikrupets7940]

Hi, Dario! Did you boost your Hurricane?

[@plankistvan2760]

I would like to know aswell Am so close to order the h3 national but i dont want to boosted on my fzd alc blade Dario do u think useing h3 without booseter will working out well??

[@tumik313]

Thank you for answering. From Victas I liked the TSP Super Ventus which should now be called VE extra. I tried the V 15, it seems too elastic to me. I prefer the Rakza X which is stiffer but not as stiff as the Fastarc G1. The Tibhar MXD also pushes a lot but has a thin topsheet and has a slingshot effect. I should try the Victas 22 but these rubbers cost a lot. So I ask you: what could be the complement of the Rakza X? I mean identical in structure.

[@DarioGrd]

If you like Rakza X, why are you looking for a replacement? Have you tried the new Rakza XX? I am planning to try Rakza XX soon.

[@tumik313]

Sorry Dario, I add that I read that the V 22 sponge has large pores and therefore, like the Vega V Asia Xiom, it will certainly produce the catapult effect. I believe that's how it is. Greetings.

[@DarioGrd]

yes yes, as I said, it definitely has a catapult effect, but not as pronounced as some rubbers, but it's still significant, that's for sure.