8.24 Minutes of INTRIGUING War Thunder Details!

8.24 Minutes of Hidden War Thunder Details!
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Guest appearance (Pumpkin soup section) by @KanaChitose
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[@koppanybudai7777]

About the stingers not locking the Sun, every missile that has "ECCM" in the game has bandMask4 rejected, meaning the Sun, normal Electro-Optical IRCM and the heat signature of rocket/missiles is not visible them.

[@Nottrules]

For the R-27 you can lock the sun however it doesn’t seem like the seeker actually sees it

[@koppanybudai7777]

​@@Nottrules Ah yes, I forgot to mention the exception, the R-27T doesnt have the bandMask4 rejection, so it can still see the Sun, what it has and what gaijin calls ECCM is a decreased seeker FOV after lock is acquired. This is also present in all other "ECCM" equipped missiles. In reality, none of these are ECCM, but IRCCM and I have no idea why gaijin uses ECCM. ECCM refers to electronic shielding for example, to reduce the effect of high power ECM pods that could cause the shorting of electronics in the missile.

[@riuneko]

irl the Stinger has a double seeker and in addition to IR can also see UV shadows, which helps it distinguish physical large objects from flares and sun

[@chaos2876]

@@koppanybudai7777 Yup, and the label is also applied to ground based missile systems in a similar way. Any ATGM that has the "ECCM" stat is immune to IR dazzlers, despite it being an IRCCM function.

[@orbitalpotato9940]

*The snail in Gaijin's logo represents their speed at which they listen to player feedback.*

[@thisherehandleIdospout]

Naw - Snails are WAY faster 😂

[@kleinerfarmer1]

@@thisherehandleIdospout not if they move in reverse

[@Grenvolde]

The F-86 has a system that controls the throttle after the imput of the pilot (i think it's called CPDCV or MFC) and in certain situations the vane trim does not allow for good efficiency so the system injects more fuel for greater power accuracy. I don't think you can bypass this system but in theory the pilot has predefined power levels based on certain specifications just to increase efficiency. I could also be wrong because I read it in two articles from several years ago on the efficiency of blade design and the control of the angle of attack of the blades and its controls. I think is this the cause (not implemented so good but ok), if im wrong please correct me

[@underseaowl7440]

I do know that jet engines tend to be more efficient at full power as they are designed that way

[@KanaChitose]

Thanks for having me on the Channel, I really appreciate it! I hope your video goes well! :)

[@bradfordbroswtent.8450]

I don't know if other people have noticed this, but every city map, Sweden, Berlin, Breslau etc, all the clocks posted around the city all stop at exactly 3:00 pm. As someone posted quite a while ago, if you are doing the Naval test drives, for small boats, there is a cave with a burning boat inside it. The buildings on Abandoned town, Aral Sea, Seversk-13, all share the same artworks on the sides of the buildings. On Ash River, if you go North, towards the main sea, go left or right at the cliffs and you will be on the Cliffed Coast Map.

[@leo86channel]

Most of these is just gaijin reusing assets

[@memelephant]

on any of the desert maps near/in the sinai penninsula you can fly to the suez canal

[@bradfordbroswtent.8450]

@@memelephant The maps are fairly restricted, maybe you could make one using the War Thunder CDK, O ther than that, probably not.

[@SoIset]

The abrams has a asymmetrical turret

[@PrussianPoe]

"How did you get that recipe?" "I got it from a Warthunder Aircraft Carrier"

[@sgtwardaddy9889]

The RadKampf 90 isnt the only vehicle in game without optics for the driver. The Italian M47/105 also doesnt have any

[@freedomisntfreeffs]

Same with the British Avenger tank.

[@skwal5464]

fun fact in a changelog after the su 25 trailer they said "dont worry sergey survived!!!!"

[@Sten05]

Still weird that they let that make to any br as I don't make sense to have the statue in reserve teir

[@skwal5464]

@@Sten05 easter egg doesn't have BR

[@S1su]

Satisfying or unsatisfying vid?

[@Goober_____]

It’s kinda both. I remember when they used to do how to implement and rumor roundups. But this type of video is the only thing they really do.

[@resistivewig610]

Okay so about the torsion bar there is one vehicle it doesn't follow that rule. The T64. The torsion bars only go to halfway through the hull

[@katyusha1283]

5:30 I think the APHE shell was even worse that that at the time of their removal. It had like 13mm of pen while the APCR had like 30.

[@ATruckCampbell]

And here I thought the T-28 had the worst pen with 27mm.

[@sparkling925]

dont forget it had a fuze sensitivity of 19mm while its pen was 13mm lmao

[@kimjanek646]

@@sparkling925Right. That was so hilarious 🤣 Nowadays it’s actually quite useable with ~20mm of pen at 30°. You can take out quite a few tanks with it.

[@broo11]

0:25 The game also has a decal "Sergey Alive!" Also bonus LVT from Russian Badger is the only tank from the period of the Second World War with a color photo in the tank card

[@KibuFox]

The reason the Italian torpedo boat has two different torpedo sizes, comes down to doctrine. Like other nations, Italy expected to use torpedo boats as raiders. However they also wanted them to be effective against escort ships. The lighter torpedoes normally carried by torpedo boats, while they weren't completely useless against escort ships, it would often still take two or three hits to knock a destroyer out of action. To counter this, Italy provided their boats with a larger torpedo. In theory, this larger torpedo could be used against a destroyer, taking it out of action, while the smaller torpedo was used against the convoy. Since these boats worked in groups of three or four, sometimes five boats, having the odd torpedo complement didn't adversely affect its capabilities.

[@Ashfielder]

I assume the missing shell in the Leopard is the one in the breech.

[@cerealeggvr6942]

The thumbnail: point at a sign while a mig-23 looks into your soul

[@stein_the_lynx3284]

2:49. i'm not 100% certain but my guess would be that since the RPM of the engine has gone down there's more are in the compressor leading to more of a combustion thus burning more fuel in the process as it has more time to add more fuel and air to burn instead of it being pushed through faster leaving less time for the mixture to be added and burned. could be completely wrong but just my guess

[@christophervanoster]

8:00 I did know this. It works on both the raketenjadgpanzers and I found it out pretty early on. So camping them is a pretty good start for rapid fire shenanigans

[@TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul]

Now every tree has a sherman. Sweden got a premium sherman.

[@french_tank]

Another fact, the differents version of the french VAB all have there front protection closed on the windshield but that means that the driver and the commander are not seing anything because you don't have optics in the front, these protections are only used when the vehicle is parked to prevent the windshield to get dirty.

[@PhxGKINGMIKE]

With the black and white cards, the premium Tiger (Germany) and premium king cobra (USA) have colored photos despite being from the B&w era

[@TheAngelobarker]

The posters on the Italy map are all actual posters from irl. The magazines in the magazine shops also are real art.

[@tugaptgamer8466]

The worst tanks in war thunder can still be researched after completing the rank I

[@Mike_Fin]

Interestingly enough those stat card images don't really take into account when the vehicle was produced or pressed in to service. Found that at rank 6 you get the first coloured images for the stat cards (with few outliers) This leads to an interesting problem of seeing tanks designed in late 50's or 60's (T95E1, T-55A, T-62, ZSU-23-4) having coloured images, while tanks designed in +70's NOT having coloured ones (Marder 1A3, Vickers Mk.3, FV102 Striker, OF-40, AMX-30 (1972)) And then there's the Marksman brothers, where the British one, while being an older one, HAS a coloured image. Where as the Finnish one doesn't have a coloured image due to the rank difference.

[@Falcheon]

Similar to the French tech tree having the AMC34 YR and H35 only researchable after rank 2, Japan has the Ha-Go not being researchable till rank 2 as well

[@thomaskositzki9424]

"Hidden" Details?!?!?! More like: "I was bored and looked around in the Hangar".

[@skorpysk]

in times whn we needed you the most, you weren't there and you come back with a video basically compiling info you already told us

[@larsmuller97]

2:30 funny thing, didn't know the R3 was built by mussolini himself to win the war, since it's in black and white. Pretty sure the black and white to digital transition was intended to be represented like was stated in the video but gaijin just lazily applied the filter by br/rank rather than look at a vehicle individually.

[@toast3976]

The color stat cards were specifically added in an April Fools event many years ago (2017, I think). The event allowed players to drive Leopard 2A5s, T-90s, AH-64s, and Mi-24s back before helicopters, supersonic jets, or MBTs. If you moused over one of the vehicles during the event, you'd see a color stat card, highlighting the contrast between the April Fools joke and the regular game. A little while later, they released rank VI ground forces, and made it so every stat card starting with rank VI was in color. I didn't know about the digital stat cards, though. I don't know when those were added.

[@lamdog1490]

I LOVE MY OS2U KINGFISHER. I was in a custom dogfighting some mates in jets in cockpit mode with our huds hidden, I was able to keep up and I pepper them with constant barages of 7.62. It wasn't very effective but it was fun and annoyed the hell out of them.

[@t2mediumplayer47]

7:21 I know that because I am building tank models...

[@yegorich1577]

You can decrease smoke grenade launching time on friendly points(if 1 launched at a time, like on Chirchill)

[@N.E.O.832]

Churchill*

[@thesturmvogel6359]

the fuel consumption is to do with a type of throttle sometimes called a bleeding throttle. where at 100 percent power the throttle opens all the way, but between 3 and 99 it becomes stiff which is to do with safety and exactly why varies plane to plane. but it is definitely like that, even for some props like the DA42 Twinstar Diamond

[@MarkoLabi]

The SU-25 pilot unfortunately died insantly from the rocket, just like in real life, no ejection seat wouldev helped him 😢!

[@xanderwusky3001]

interesting video :D have a few timestamp comments :) 00:00 that same plack is in many other planes as well (some exactly others very similar looking) 2:40 might have to do with the engine running more efficiently at 100%, not sure but at top speed planes often run more efficiently then just below it. Maybe this has something to do with what the engine is designed to do (and ofc this could just be a mistake too) 4:35 yes, this is intended (assuming this missile should have this). In US planes the aim 9L will still lock onto the sun (and everything older then it as well) but the aim 9M will not. Some ir seakers can essentially tune out the sun (i dont think this makes them fully immune to the sun, it will at least be easier to dodge but yeah pretty much immune to it)

[@devingraves8044]

Rip stat card pictures

[@joard5156]

🙏

[@shaggygabe728]

The old French tanks are, just like the OS2U, not completely removed: you can still unlock them

[@eldarguardian6485]

The reason for f86 fuel consumption is the the astonishing level of spaghetti coding and gaijin ignoring most reports for years.

[@jameshodgson3656]

wrong, it's a real phenomenon to do with the fuel efficiency of the engine at lower power settings

[@leotruuut245]

Nice video man!

[@deruta37]

If I can recal from a book I read, the Panzer IV's turret is offset by either 2in or 2cm to allow the transmission to go through the tank. Either that or another part.

[@kimjanek646]

It’s probably just to give the loader more room on his side of the vehicle 🤔

[@feelinspiffy696]

2:15 the thunderscreech also

[@genericslavdude2919]

The battle pass skin for last batlepass’ AMX-50 has the date of the release of said battle pass season on the upper front plate of the tank

[@arvalfe]

I was missing you dude!

[@lordwintertown8284]

G'day, the Italian MS-53 isn't alone for the British Fairmile 5001 carries both 553 mm & 450 mm torpedoes an that doesn't just stop with MTB's but included the Imperial Japanese Armoured Cruiser Ikoma with broadside submerged tubes launching 533 mm torpedoes and a stern submerged 450 mm torpedo. (I have gotten exactly 1 kill with an aft tube). If anyone wants I can list a bunch of obscure naval related tit bits from vessel related to map related things one odd example the Rettungsboje (rescue bouy) found on several maps.

[@samgeorge4798]

Glad to see you back

[@silentetiam1744]

That Thumbnail really says "Speedlimit enforced by Aircraft" and I love it

[@reib00n]

Thanks for having me 😊

[@_.goober._111]

there also is a decal with the text "serega lives!"

[@rafaelpalma9003]

The last one, on the IT 1 that russian missel acrrier at rank VI at 8.3 also has the same feature

[@katgut]

I wish I could enjoy gaijins attention to detail, but it doesn't matter how nice you carve a brick if you build the building out of mostly regular bricks, where's my working hull guns and obvious minor easily fixed vehicle inconsistencies

[@MrSlientdeath]

The solid asw rockets were vicious.

[@sillak5253]

3:27 It should be noted that the magach 3 didn't have era armor when it was released. That was a later update. So, I don't remember if they changed the image after the update, but if they didn't you could just chalk that up to the image being from the older magach3.

[@GhostOfDamned]

Just realised Seversk-13 palace of culture looks like the government building in 91' USSR collapse

[@nullusername226]

Gaijin added sherman to swedish tech tree in La Royale update :)

[@pengudengu5947]

I got my Osu fisher from a daily reward case 😂

[@ImAFatCheezIt]

The black night also has driver thermals

[@ryanberry_]

Oh and the 2E has it now also lol

[@magnum6763]

Another fun little tidbit that i dont think anyone talks about, the B-26B in the US TTs camouflage shows it in the Normandy paint scheme, but it has a torpedo as an armament loadout. No B-26s modified to carry torpedoes were deployed into Europe, with the few that were deployed to the South Pacific and Aleutian Islands. On another note, the French never slapped a torpedo onto a B-26. And the paint scheme is sort of wrong (not entirely wrong, the gray part is a bit too low, but thats about it) And the statcard image for the US one is (i believe) based off the 4 that engaged the Japanese fleet at Midway.

[@brendanlogan1676]

the braldy and abrams look like they share the same hull

[@Janissary452]

7:02 Hong Konger here ! Woniu Park is a combination of Ocean Park ( a theme park in Hong Kong ) and Snail ( Gaijin )

[@kallyy3471]

Old french reserves we're fun and never had problems with them

[@JVDS1XTEEN]

Ah yes, the jet piston hybrid. The Jiston.

[@ace_maker3492]

The us air tree starts with a monoplane too

[@blackmark7165]

Each time you won a match, you can hear a Lightning/Thunder sound

[@Code3GamingOfficial]

2:14 I asked this on their forum and it got removed from it. It was detailed to the T

[@mateuszk887]

Aditional fun fact to the last fun fact: In WT rockets in its launchers are first stage ammo racks. Because of this rocket is visible in xray mode and can be hit by enemy.

[@the_inspector]

i still have both of those atrocious french removed reserve tanks

[@ODST_Parker]

On the subject of ordnance appearing in stat card images, the Tornado IDS is an interesting example. You actually have to use the loadout system to create a preset for the "without load" option most planes come with. The default configuration for the IDS includes the wing-mounted drop tanks, not included in the stat card image. EDIT: Oh, and the missile reloading thing feels like cheating! I did this with the Chinese BMP-1, and I felt so awful. It was a full down-tier to 6.3, I was in a perfect hull-down position on the capture zone, and I had wide open sightlines. I think I got seven or eight kills.

[@Dougs05]

I like how they have all this detail but still cant fix players going invisible in air rb 😂

[@user-gk2tg6mc2v]

2:55 pt 76 57 have a black and white photo despite the fact in was created around 2000s

[@allenliu8820]

alright someone has to make a war thunder cooking video

[@2004jakub_cze]

I would need to explain the plane weight upgrade cuz the fuelselage and the other thing shows that it reduces the planes weight but whats was the weight before and is after upgrades??

[@wubmaster9294]

7:16 nooooo why did you point this out myyy ocd

[@thesnazzycomet]

I love videos like these! Gimme more

[@Greek109]

all that but when your shooting a 50cal from a tank the bullets dont move

[@Echo_4609]

Pretty sure the 335 was a night fighter. Thats why it has an identification chart. Similar to U-boats, for ships.

[@toast3976]

While there were night fighter variants of the Do 335, the wingspan chart is relevant for day fighters as well. One of the British planes (I think the Spitfire Mk IXe with the gyro sight selected) in Il-2 BoX has the same thing. In real life, the wingspan and distance to target can be adjusted using two dials, which in turn changes the dimensions of the gunsight. When the target fills the gunsight, and assuming you have the right wingspan, then that means you're at the distance you've selected. This is useful for holding your fire until a certain range, and it can make gyro gunsights a lot more accurate.

[@rsln5048]

0:27 one more thing, if you put plane bots they will attack su-25 with rockets, bombs and mg's

[@hampterofficial]

7:20 NOOOOOOOOO. WHYYYY

[@boopadin]

I'm disappointed this video wasn't 8.3 minutes long, 8.24 isn't a BR 😥

[@Yuudachi_Pois]

fuck the suspension one is gonna ruin me now

[@DefinitelyPlay]

i still dont know why the Yak38M premium disappearedfrom the tech tree but still appears near the hangar

[@Fanmarsh]

The last one is works with IT-1 too. So goodluck fighting hulldown IT-1 in cap

[@mab2187]

1:47 I didn't understand, what? I heard that the icon shows, if its has a larger/wider slab of armor then it means it does alot of spalling, the smaller it is then smaller amounts of spalling. right?

[@moonshadow116]

That last one explains the sheer bullshit i got from a cap ooint once. Every second a missile flies out from the c cap whwre a is a castle on a hill. Turns out there was 3 of those tanks firing constantly and if you were seen goodluck getting into cover

[@kimjanek646]

But the table in the Do 335 is for the gyro gunsight 😵‍💫 Which we don’t have in WT. Also no ballistics computer for the B-29 :(

[@thegoodaussie1968]

How about the french tank with two crews that has a crew replenishment that can be researched ;) least last time i checked lmao

[@5505daniel]

Almost all tanks have modelled interior

[@yordobelps]

1 detail I've found is on some spitfires the landing gear has a door on top of the wing that opens to allow an arm to extend to drop the gear

[@shikikanaz4624]

correct me if im wrong but i think some japanese tanks have thermals for drivers, i may be wrong

[@robob4465]

6:56,so you don't have to sit through the whole video for the blurred thumbnail

[@lagboi4539]

0:47 Looks like Pripyat

[@BAM_BAM_XCI]

Every tank misses 1 shell at max

[@petrkdn8224]

No they don't, there is one round in the Breech too.

[@BAM_BAM_XCI]

@@petrkdn8224 yeah that's what I'm talking about

[@f-104C_starfighter]

Fun fact, i've played this game long enough i have the old french reserves.

[@kimjanek646]

They are still available after you unlocked Rank II or something like that.

[@f-104C_starfighter]

@kimjanek646 even better. Been playing since 2020/21 on xbox. Either way, top tier is a underworld I refuse to touch in the slightest

[@LaVaZ000]

Gaijin gets a lot of shit but I've never seen such attention to detail across so many vehicles anywhere else

[@LarySeeAircraft]

Is the eastern city map still in circulation?

[@RogueBeatsARG]

Where is that eastern city map on rb? had anyone see it?

[@kimjanek646]

Isn’t that just n Automatic engine control problem? A lot of planes will open their radiators at specific power settings. Sometimes they close all radiators when using WEP for both getting the most out of your plane as well as getting the toastiest engine 😂

[@pinguspringus8356]

If they only payed this much attention to the game 😔

[@hory121]

Doesn't driver thermals allow you to use thermal in third person as well?

[@cade8986]

No

[@hory121]

@@cade8986 what does then? Ive seen videos with third person thermals. I'm pretty sure its from driver thermals unless they removed it.

[@kommandantkillcode]

@@hory121 They removed 3rd person thermals. It was based on commander view, and once commander sights got added, Gaijin made third-person thermals disappear in order to nerf thermals a bit and make people use the commander sights.

[@osmacar5331]

the what? the ponzer 4?

[@byzantinehoney3384]

Will it be tier 6 or 7

[@karmdeez911]

surgey didnt eject (?), he died

[@albertogiavani75]

Im actually sad for Sergey, nooo whyyyy