Every Remote Turret in War Thunder - Planes

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

I enjoy looking at stuff to much in ther hangar so I wanted to share the little things I've been starting at instead of playing the game :) 3% off Gaijin Store and you get my decal too store.gaijin.net/catalog.php?category=WarThunder&partner=IronArmenian&partner_val=u5g16ff2

[@motopanza]

you missed a certain japanese bomber. can you find it?

[@mechwarrior7278]

Noooooo you forgot the Grizzly 😭. Poor little guy I love him to death

[@colemiller2149]

HEY, red bar on bottom of thumbnail is how KZbin shows that a video is already watched! Change the thumbnail and watch it get more views :) I legit did a double take

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

@@colemiller2149dang, that’s a good point. Okay I’ll think about what new boarder colour to use

[@joshuadickinson4614]

12:24 The nose is boxy because curved glass distorts the image through it and makes the sun glint at more angles. It's the same reason the canopy of the AH-1 cobra became more boxy over time. Note that on most aircraft until quite recently you'll find an optically flat panel of glass in most cockpits and bomb aimer positions.

[@fishman501]

It probably also makes it easier to manufacture, since curved glass is much more difficult to make (as far as I'm aware)

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

Oh wow, that's a good explanation. Thx :D

[@simplsquam]

oh neat, i thought it was because of the distortion curved glass could cause

[@ThaGr1m]

@@fishman501 or maybe it's an already existing manufacturing line, so like glass from a car or smth

[@corvo6138]

It's wild thinking they had remote-controlled turrets in ww2, It's something i still find difficult to grasp

[@simplsquam]

And you have the superfortress turrets that are basically computer controlled, ww2 saw some crazy aviation innovations Edit: just reached the point in the video where he mentions it

[@TheArklyte]

We(humans) had remote controlled turrets before WWI. Not on planes though, obviously 😅

[@icaindianen]

The first cruise ”missile” was from WW1. Basically a remote controlled/pre-programmed kamikaze aircraft. Lots of weird surprisingly high tech stuff around a century ago.

[@treyebillups8602]

By the end of the war American warships were able to have computers calculate firing solutions for their guns with the aid of radar, which allowed some of the battleships to get hits on Japanese ships at insane ranges even without visual contact. Given that these remote turrets are a couple of 50 cals and not 16 inch battleship guns it was probably a lot easier to make the remote turrets with ballistic computers for them

[@5505daniel]

Not only that: -drones -homing torpedoes

[@Lykas_mitts]

No doubt everyone will be flooding you with this comment, but the P-61's turret actually defaults forward facing not rear facing. Which makes it bad if you're being intercepted from the rear.

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

Dang, I got mixed up with doing the voice over 😭

[@teodor9975]

the Bottom turret on the G8N simply uses a reflective gunsight. the crew sits above and will have to move the turret himself.

[@Spartan-ir4zf]

The B-17 with the remote ball turret control was the glass bubble right behind the turret.

[@phloppyphish4352]

2:09 I forgot there I heard it from, but I believe the pilot could lock the turret forward, basically giving the pilot 4 extra forward facing .50's on top of the 20mm cannons. Sadly this feature is not in War Thunder :(

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

Yeah people have been asking for that feature from when it was added to the game :(

[@isseyIT]

​​@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigsIf I remember correctly, they had written in the devblog that it would be able to do this in the game, but they never implemented it

[@cuccarese]

@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs , I thought they said something about it being unbalanced and refused to add it.

[@Alextz_Gr]

"... and a highly curious turret with four Browning 12.7 mm machine guns, capable of attacking targets all across its upper surfaces. Incidentally, this turret could also be locked to shoot forwards, so the pilot could control it as a frontal weapon. In War Thunder, we plan to introduce this function a little later in the form of a researched modification." from the devblog

[@BrownFoxWarrior]

What I heard from those WWII vet interviews was that tge B-17E's remote turret used a mirror to aim, which made aiming difficult. That's why it was changed to a ball turret.

[@bkam9794]

2:35 You are correct, the P-61 was designed to be a Heavy Night Fighter, using its radar to find, track, and destroy enemy aircraft in the dark.

[@biomike01]

The fixed mgs were controlled by the pilot, they would have a trigger to fire them to try and scare off planes on their tail

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

What I'm confused by is the He-111 5 degrees traverse. What kinda of mechanism and sight was there to know where to aim the gun. Or was the 5 degrees just added by the WT Devs?

[@me262omlett]

@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs From what i know, even the He-111s remote Mg was controlled by the pilot. I'm also not sure if the He-111s Mg always had 5 degrees of traverse, so it's quite possible they added that to buff the plane.

[@biomike01]

@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs Added by the devs, the fixed guns had no movement at all and no sights I remember it being part of the devblog when they updated the 111's model

[@_Funtime60]

The 1 degree traversal on the fixed guns isn't Gaijin being nice, it's needed in order to use them at ALL. Since in gunner mode you can move the aim point outside the field of fire, it'd be impossible to stay within a 0 degree area to actually fire the guns.

[@robob4465]

Can't they just add a separate keybind, like for the tilted schrage musik cannons on german heavy fighters?

[@xXE4GLEyEXx]

The He-111 rear gun I heard from someone that Hungary had one scout/recon he-111 fitted with that, it is supposed to be stationary, and only really used as scare tactics. The enemy pilots knew (Soviets) that behind the plane they are safe from the gunners, so this gun was stuck there to just fire at them and put them off from sitting behind the plane freely. I guess it moves similar to other stationary guns in game, some sort of a gameplay reason.

[@loganrapp1]

im surprised the XA-38 grizzly was missed out, but either way it was neat to learn about the planes with these turrets, its easy to forget how many of them actually have remote controlled turrets.

[@MBkufel]

4:40 The rear turret in the B-29 was also just optionally manned if I remember it correctly. It could be remote controlled.

[@maverickf1426]

The black widdow still lacks the function of the turret beeing able to be fired from the Pilot in normal mode

[@fangride3577]

I love the SM. 91 turret it’s gotten me plenty of kills on players

[@CelicaDan]

the SM.91 is insanely good in general, but excellent on Sim. very stupid being able to go third person when no one else can, while having similar turn times to later fighters, and an excellent armament and ground pound capability.

[@thelonious2213]

The S.M.91 and S.M.92 have different turret guns if I recall correctly. The S.M.91 has the 20 mm MG-151, while the S.M.92 has a 12.7 mm Breda SAFAT HMG. Gotta love the turrets honestly!

[@samuelloomis9714]

12:14 I'd say that one isn't remote controlled because of how the controls are configured. It's just offset with some beams that you see move with the gun. To me, it's a matter of how the gunner controls it. Many of the guns may be controlled via linkages, and for those, I believe it would be better to call them indirectly controlled.

[@RedTail1-1]

Those "beams" are the cables and pulleys for control surfaces.

[@samuelloomis9714]

@RedTail1-1 I didn't know what to call them, and the ones I was observing looked fairly thick and ridged... if those are even the right descriptors.

[@remkirkthegamer1157]

4:33 You missed the XA-38 Grizzly, which has a similar turret layout to the A-26B

[@Leonidas1210vc]

10:26 be-6 looks dope as hell

[@flanfre_skarlett]

5:37 The gunner sits above the turret and aims downwards or something like that, kind of like most down-facing machinr guns except its a turret

[@nihil2157]

iirc pe-3 mgs are controlled by pilot and could be replaced to flamethrower or a parachuted anti-air mine launcher

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

I think there was also a German Do-17 that had a flame thrower in the tail

[@gheetza14]

​@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs yes

[@lithobreak3812]

Anti air mines? Damn

[@simplsquam]

12:10 On the B29 you can see a flat glass pannel on the bomb sight due to the curved glass causing distortion. That same distortion may be the reason why its not curved glass but thats just my theory

[@jussi8111]

bro forgot the premium ki-21 butt gun

[@yamatokurusaki5790]

Was about say that

[@lapajgoo4572]

justice for ki-21

[@liamboyle9199]

Tell you what, if you haven't seen a P-61 in person... its freaking narrower than you think😂 Also, the SM91 has an MG151, and the SM92 has a 12.7mm for turret guns.

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

I still feel bad for that mistake in the opening with the Sm91 and Sm92. I think I got most things right other than missing one American plane.

[@matchc0635]

I like these fixed pointed behind guns like if they gonna ever be useful in real

[@lukeskywalket2894]

A few fun facts about the turrets on the P-61 & B-29: on the P-61, the turret could be locked in a forward-facing position and used as a fixed gun mount. And on the B-29, part of the remote turret control included a system that would allow a single gunner to slave multiple turrets to their controls, allowing, say, a waist gunner to control both the upper and lower rear remote turrets simultaneously.

[@viperz3r016]

2:20 in Reading, Pennsylvania, there is a P-61 "Moonbeam Lady" being restored to flying condition.

[@reapersteelwolf4327]

the B17 remote turret worked with the gunner in a belly laying position facing through the plexi glass done behind the turret, it was a pain to use from what i heard, so the ball was to replace it as it was more comfortable and practical then that.

[@Chrinik]

I think the idea behind putting fixed MGs firing backwards in the engine cowling was to make it more problematic for a guy on straight six to go for your engines, as was often done.

[@JLS-ti3lb]

Bro forgot the amazing XA-38 real sad hours

[@bkam9794]

Can't edit my other comment to include this, but (3:30) you are again largely correct. While I don't know about the remote turret on the B-17E, the nose turret on the B-17G was added due to testing with the YB-40 gunship, which was an attempt to create a bomber-escort B-17. To make a long story short, from the YB-40 tests, they found that a nose-turret actually boosted the head-on protection for the B-17, this is also why later B-24's had nose-turret added, and it is also why the later B-29's added a second pair of .50 cal's to their forward dorsal turret.

[@stefanpunktde8398]

7:00 in fact this fixed machine gun was used in the earlier He 111 and other german bomber planes. Controlled by the pilot for a kind of surperessing fire. Don't know how usefull it was...somewhere between porly and crappy..?

[@Epsilon-M47]

The B29 was really sci-fi for the time period and the cost was ludicrous

[@dylanbartlett5509]

I love the J1n1 people almost never expect that much rear firepower

[@jage1559]

1:22 BV 238 has turrets way out on the wings. Or did you just mean remote controlled ones?

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

I ment just remote turrets. The Bv-238 does have the furthest turrets from the fuselage like you said :)

[@flanfre_skarlett]

5:08 >Not that useful I clear entire lobbies with that gun, while using my own plane as tail-bait. The quad machine guns are VERY useful

[@空飛ぶネコさん]

Ju388 "don't leave me! It's my only chance to get noticed!"

[@kevincho1187]

To add, the p61 was designed to be a might fighter. As such I believe the second guy in the cockpit is a radar operator

[@CobraDBlade]

12:08 If you look carefully through the glass you can see that Gaijin modeled the controls for the guns rotating around as the guns move (but the gunner stays perfectly still because animation is hard). They look like they are basically just trigger extensions connected fairly directly to the guns themselves, with an aiming reticle suspended between them. It's possible to argue that this isn't a true remote turret in that sense, but if you're not directly behind and aiming down the guns it's not outrageous to argue that it's remote either. This really is a big fat grey area.

[@thegeneralissimo470]

5:30. Badger jumpscare.

[@TigerOwO]

Wish we have B52 variants in the game so we can have a remote controlled M61 Vulcan. (H variant)

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

That would be incredibly based

[@blockstacker5614]

Radar guided Vulcan

[@mrActionhouse]

Yes! iv been looking forward to remote turrets!

[@Dominator4794]

The idea for the video: All early radars(Up to rank V)

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

I've got a few more ideas but dang I didn't think about a dedicated radar video. There quite a lot of planes with radar that you wouldn't expect. I'll note your idea down :D

[@Dominator4794]

@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs 🤟

[@troygroomes104]

Correction. P-61's gun turret controller is in the back seat only. Front seats are the pilot * radar intercept officer

[@216Suzan]

Will say the Lincoln’s turret is almost similar to the tail of the B-17 where the guns are offset from the gunner

[@arcamean785]

I miss flying my B-17s in War Thunder but I swear the wing models have gotten worse and it feels like so much easier to rip them... well that or getting rammed because "omg a bomber I hate it" :p

[@legoeasycompany]

20mm "machine gun"? Uhhh where do you start calling things cannons then

[@NBrixH]

usually at 15mm, so yeah. But guess it is still a machine ''gun'', but machine cannon probably would've been more accurate

[@FirstDagger]

@@NBrixH Machine cannon isn't really used as a word, those are called usually called autocannons.

[@NBrixH]

@@FirstDagger true true, though maybe not in English, but in other languages it is

[@KauppaKomissaari]

The ball turret was a simplification because if i remember they needed copper for submarines and well easier to make

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

Oh that's interesting

[@KauppaKomissaari]

@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs they needed more planes ball is easy to make

[@Basicallybaltic]

Flying a Japanese plane at night in 1945 knowing the P-61 could be lurking anywhere must have been terrifying. Also imagine Germany held out longer, and the B-29 wave that would have been turning the nation back to the stone age. Not to mention the B-36 and how untouchable it was and would have been at its time of introduction.

[@spyczech]

I'd rather not imagine all that horrible outcomes of the war

[@bennettcrozier344]

The glass ball turrets that look extra small used by the japanese might just be their version of us using 5’6 crewman in our turrets. Imagine. 4’11 crewman in a little ball turret, or only putting his torso in or something.

[@michaelusswisconsin6002]

The P-61 Black Widow is a night fighter. The third crew member is the radar operator.

[@Haaton-of-the-Basement]

7:19 the bane of all AirSB players. Straight up cheats on that bad girl.

[@Mauscmkwk]

2:19 looks like an arc 170 from Star Wars

[@timthndr2996]

Not sure if you left it out intentionally, but the XA-38 has the same turrets that the A26B has but with a split tail

[@Train115]

No XA-38? I mean it is very similar to the A-26, but the rear turret is in a different spot and the tail is split.

[@Lajos_Kelemen]

The Superfortress had a computer that calculated for you?!

[@FabianDialer-vw1zk]

The lincoln one is not remote controled. He directly turns the gun with his movements by turning left and right. Remote controled for me would mean his input would have to be indirectly, through cabbles or something symiliar and not through direct contact with fixed parts on the gun.

[@Meelix]

Ju288 my beloved (it's getting buffed a lot this patch)

[@DisinformationAgent]

The SM.91s sci-fi turret is extremely good, I don't know what you're doing to not get kills with it.

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

It's a cool design but compared to some of the other turrets that can spin 360 and elevate 85 degrees. It's firing angles are aren't as good. It's not bad when compared to the fixed guns

[@목화별]

00:30 just booster..

[@rubendepuben8386]

yo what's the background song at 03:05, i haven't heard it in a very long time and gives me nostalgic feelings.

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

It's from the Grand Budapest Hotle sound track.

[@rubendepuben8386]

@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs Thanks, the reason it probably gave me nostalgic feeling is because i watched your vids years ago about tanks and other vehicles.

[@Caktusdud.]

The lincon doesn't have a remote control turret, the one you showed, when it fired the muzzle flashes lit up this like pivot handle thing that is attached to the guns, extending down to the gunner.

[@groundon83]

3:43 im pretty sure the chin gun was ment for japanese pilots as they were more widley know to exploit the weekness at the front

[@Maverick-gg2do]

The chin turret comes from the experimental B-17 gunship variant, the YB-40 that flew over Europe. It was a gunship that carried no bombs but had significantly increased defensive gun armament. It was discontinued, but the features from it that were considered effective were simply distributed to the rest of the fleet by integrating them to the B-17G The chin turret specifically was necessary as the earlier B-17s had a significant lack of firepower forward that was abused by both Japanese and German pilots. Towards the end of the war, a head-on attack became the most common intercept profile for the Germans because it minimized their exposure to defensive gunfire and maximized the vulnerable areas of the plane (the engines and the cockpit)

[@Mystic-Midnight]

I just got bad piggies'd by Iron :c

[@Billy-I-Am-Not]

did you overlay the soundtrack from the Grand Budapest Hotel into the background?

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

Yep :)

[@Billy-I-Am-Not]

@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs Nice, love that film and its music

[@andrewg3912]

Forgot the XA-38 dmh

[@AltonNelson-kr1qu]

So i see you have the russian bagder emblem

[@Erden99]

Iron... you can't start the vid by incorrectly claiming that the SM92 has the same tail gun as the SM91. It has a .50 cal, the 91 has a 20mm.

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

I know I'm so sorry, I got most things right but start of on the wrong foot 😭

[@Erden99]

@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs All right then xD I'm just a particular fan of the SM91 rear turret.

[@MichalKolac]

Some turrets used mirrors i think.

[@AliceAshhide33]

This guy literally did plane review to Bad Piggies music 💀

[@jessejan07]

What is the song called that starts playing at 03:00?? If been looking for it for ages…

[@ndfgaming6824]

now if only ai gunners did their job, idk if thats even a feature still in the game cuz i havent had a gunner shoot by themselves in years

[@polygondwanaland8390]

Am I missing a trick or did you get the P-61C exactly backwards? The turret defaults forward and that's annoying because you've already got four 20mm forward. I'd much prefer it default rear. Is this a setting you can change?

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

Yeah got my directions mixed up for some reason 🥲

[@lightdragon3127]

Make every turret plane that's not a bomber

[@cccc285]

Sm91 has the best turret, idk how u dont find it useful

[@Rose_Butterfly98]

U missed the xa38 i think but it's practically the same as the a26

[@samadams2203]

Cool.

[@Spearmaster-and-suns]

I hate that can't clam most creator items because I'm on console, pain

[@NBrixH]

Where's the XA-38?

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

Your right I missed it 😭 But thank you for telling me

[@NBrixH]

@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs One of my favorite planes 😔

[@RedTail1-1]

Eh woah plane

[@angelcasillas3852]

Since when can the A-26 carry cannons?

[@gumbie6959]

Ha brother how about a New Decal been waiting awhile now, you missing out on some revenue

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

I don't want to renew the decal, I do enjoy the original Baroness design. If I change the decal, people can't get the original version anymore 😭

[@Dominator4794]

9:23 (⊙‿⊙)

[@MichalKolac]

False info the sm 91 and sm 92 dont have the same gun

[@Floris_VI]

does the game really look this bad close up or are you playing on ulq?

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

Some modles are very old, like the Pe-3 and He-111. I'm running the biggest size version of the game with all the graphics sliders maxed out. The game doesn't look to good through the replyer with close ups.

[@treeshakertucker5840]

Anyone know what the music is from?

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

1st stone is the theme from Bad Piggies. 2nd Song is also the theme from the Grand Budapest Hotle

[@TheEpicNoob]

Bad piggies music?

[@franklinpresident4990]

isint that anime girl design by angelo's world?

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

Yes, I asked Angelo to design my WT Decal :D The Red Baroness, I based her design on the JG400 decal which itself is based on The Baron Munchausen cannonball ride

[@Cross242]

Ki 21 I hei?

[@jmirsp4z]

ju-388?

[@J_v7101]

Shackleton?

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

Which weapon on it?

[@J_v7101]

IL 28?

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

I mentioned the rear gun when bring up Be-6. I don't quite think it's remote enough. It's a cool weapon system but not really remote.

[@comradewyvern1150]

Great video! God bless, Jesus loves you!