8 Anime Tropes that Need to STOP

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Opalescent

Opalescent

Күн бұрын

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@Opalescent
@Opalescent 2 жыл бұрын
Check out SquidTheCynic's channel or Zenitsu will show up at your front door to recruit you into his basketball team: kzbin.info/door/5JKc73hywnrb8e4CFh_1Iw
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 2 жыл бұрын
asia eat rice idiot. we eat 3 times a day. #racist
@theautisticfilmmaker1944
@theautisticfilmmaker1944 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I watched Lagrange The Flower of Rin-ne
@Amibait
@Amibait 2 жыл бұрын
Respectfully, you've got to be kidding me, right? The falicy of #8 isn't just wrong, but also racist, so why would you let it into your video? Here in the West people may not go immediatly to rice as their carb, but I can't count how many people I know who have trained for sports, or were bulking, who added pasta and bread to their diets. I get that rice is low calorie, but it's so high in complex carbs that it's a great training fuel. Next is just that tropes are tropes for a reason, they come from somewhere. My Japanese partner has assured me that adding rice to ones diet is typically how it's done. And last, asking an entire country to stop depicting their own diets on screen because YOU think it's not right is just racist. "Yes, Japan, please stop depicting your culture and diets in an accurate way, cause it makes ME uncomfortable."
@iBenjamin1000
@iBenjamin1000 2 жыл бұрын
I will join Zenitsu's basketball team
@duynguyenminh1289
@duynguyenminh1289 2 жыл бұрын
For the first trope, you can actually check the cuckcold wizard adventure. Well Mc is a baddie but at least he is believable like you say. He's deranged and likes girls that are in relationship and actually wins them over via sex and/or other means.
@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3
@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3 2 жыл бұрын
For a harem, giving the MC a love interest that he is actually devoted to would instantly give us a reason why he refuses to entertain the idea of other women around him trying to get into his pants. Don't have him be clueless about them being into him, have him actively turning them down even if he in some way develops feelings for them in return. You've immediately made the dynamic more interesting because of it.
@wannabehistorian371
@wannabehistorian371 2 жыл бұрын
I think Master of Ragnorok attempted this. It was bad though.
@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3
@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3 2 жыл бұрын
@@wannabehistorian371 It comes down to execution at that point. Even an amazing concept can turn out poorly if handled wrong.
@Volyren
@Volyren 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno. I can halfway relate to the ever-celibate harem king. Just not for the same reason. I actually dated 2 women who knew about each other. I didnt seek that out, i kinda got coerced into it because they were also into each other. It was *not* fun. Day 1 and 2, you're feeling like the king of the world. But by day 3, you want to chill. And you can't. Because one or both will be constantly with you. From the moment one wakes you up, until you go to sleep. Want to spend time with just 1? Too bad. The other will insert themselves, or get upset they werent included. By day 5, you just want to hide somewhere to try and get a few hours of alone time to decompress. So if you put me in an isekai harem situation, even if i had feelings for one girl, as soon as the others declared their intentions, i'm out. Can't date the one you want without the others getting involved and it all just becomes too much trouble to bother with. I'd co*kblock myself at every opportunity just to avoid the smothering stress. Maybe if you threw a couple of traps in the harem, it might go better. "Hey Astolfo.... tag in, man. I need stud services. Hold down the fort while i escape out this window...." Then i'd start running and never look back. 😋
@tiredbunbun9009
@tiredbunbun9009 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Grill and the Philosopher's Time does this but huge NTR and r4p3 warning
@rchvst01
@rchvst01 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the fact that the only show I remember doing this is SAO 😂
@mrm0nty550
@mrm0nty550 2 жыл бұрын
The trope that bothers me the most is when the MC is introduced as someone who has to work for every ounce of power, but then the story reveals that he was the special reincarnation of someone important or otherwise was a special destined hero.
@zerosorigin8387
@zerosorigin8387 2 жыл бұрын
I call that the secret bloodline/Power Plot Twist Trope.
@Green-Toast
@Green-Toast 2 жыл бұрын
Naruto, SPOILER (I guess?) they probably turned him into a prophecy child because kishimoto didn’t have any ideas on how they can defeat Madara and just made the alien kaguya ototsuki out of him so they can seal her away.
@robbieaulia6462
@robbieaulia6462 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it just ruins the idea that hardwork can lead you to success.
@sirapple589
@sirapple589 2 жыл бұрын
@@Green-Toast The prophecy about Naruto happened way before the war arc even started, it’s talked about during the Pain Arc with the insinuation that people believe Naruto to be the one spoken of in the prophecy. It’s also worth mentioning that Naruto _did_ struggle for his power, he was the dead last in his class and failed the graduation exam multiple times, only graduating because of a special circumstance. Considering who his parents are that kind of track record is quite embarrassing. His chakra control was garbage and he hadn’t been taught enough to work around it, something that he’d grow very adept at doing during his Shinobi career.
@Green-Toast
@Green-Toast 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirapple589 yeah that's why I like og Naruto, but when it was foreshadowed early about the prophecy thing on it kinda ruins it for me ya 'now? Like you can work hard and become strong but if you aren't special (basically MC plot armor) or have weird shit that connected you to an old generation who has a power like a god then what's the point about hard works beats talent? And the destiny thing Neji said is true T_T I still like the Naruto series even if it's flawed especially in power level. Now Boruto I question when I saw a short clip on that many of the old characters who we've seen struggle and grows stronger just been retconned... like they're cutboards and can't move and in one explosion they're already down... what form of power is this?
@rynsummer1711
@rynsummer1711 2 жыл бұрын
Showing the scene of Demon Slayer when talking about mercy not to kill is unmatched. Tanjirou is capable of symphatizing with demons, but he's willing to kill them because he knew how severe the demons atrocities are.
@Flaris
@Flaris 2 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling the clips are mostly random. Tanjirou for a section about murder being bad is a bit odd. Kazuma in the harem section is also a bit questionable. One of the few I can be sure they intentionally put in there was Batman.
@bagpaper6964
@bagpaper6964 2 жыл бұрын
@@Flaris yeah some clips feel random and out of place
@leyvadira
@leyvadira 2 жыл бұрын
This. Tanjirou beheads demons throughout the entire series, lmao. He even threatens to kill Muzan when he first meets him.
@valse6195
@valse6195 2 жыл бұрын
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@svenstevenson2245
@svenstevenson2245 2 жыл бұрын
Moreover tanjiro knows he can not let them go, otherwise they will hurt and kill more people. Too many soft main characters or the opposite murder happy unrelatable MC's, tanjiro is the perfect example of balance.
@HolyCow0273
@HolyCow0273 2 жыл бұрын
I actually don’t mind the “murder is bad” trope when done correctly, like in HxH, where the main character is a naive child. When Gon actually kills someone, it is a big moment for the character because he never killed anyone before this and makes the moment more impactful.
@Watermelon_Man
@Watermelon_Man Жыл бұрын
At that point, it’s not “murder is bad” necessarily. It’s more like “I’m too kind-hearted and innocent to even realize murder is an option.”
@strangevol5264
@strangevol5264 Жыл бұрын
And also, the Batman example sucks because like, this is what everyone who doesn’t read the comics think.
@MabosstiffBigDog
@MabosstiffBigDog Жыл бұрын
Whereas when Killua tells Gon how he comes from a family of assassins, and how he escaped from his home by literally assaulting his mother AND brother, and Gon's just: 😮😀
@cindy-mai
@cindy-mai Жыл бұрын
@@MabosstiffBigDog I like this moment quite a bit. Showing the typical protagonist trope of acceptance and how strange it is in if we really think about it. Thankfully Gon was never meant to simply be a “good person” so the follow up actually led somewhere.
@xaiveruniverse6389
@xaiveruniverse6389 Жыл бұрын
I understand this because they know murder is an option but if absolutely needed will not hesitate to kill to protect more people batman is a representation of killing is bad gone wrong with joker on God but people like gon are where i feel it goes right
@MsAngelique
@MsAngelique 2 жыл бұрын
Actual harems, like in Imperial China or the Ottoman Empire, they were 1000% more fascinating and horrifying than anime harems. So much story potential.
@Lorddacenshadowind
@Lorddacenshadowind Жыл бұрын
Kingdom kind of gets into the politics of harems, though not too much.
@johnynoway9127
@johnynoway9127 Жыл бұрын
can you elaborate. You kinda got me interested. Idk what to search for either.
@ChaseDaOrk3767
@ChaseDaOrk3767 Жыл бұрын
I'd also like to know a little bit more about that topic
@Lorddacenshadowind
@Lorddacenshadowind Жыл бұрын
@@johnynoway9127 the show kingdom is set in feudal China, with one of the main characters being the young emperor having his backstory and certain events involving politics of the royal harem, and how it was a political faction almost as powerful and influential as the emperor
@firemonger5409
@firemonger5409 Жыл бұрын
Nope anime harems are 10000000000% more fascinating and horrifying than real harems. Stop with the cap. Anime harems have more story potential
@deliriousfreezer9236
@deliriousfreezer9236 2 жыл бұрын
This trope is also more commonly found in harems but it completely ruins thw whole anime for me: The sister that is in 'love' with her brother... Not admiration, not brotherly love, straight up she would date him
@jaytayfox5738
@jaytayfox5738 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I even wrote my own comment about it.
@hyukleberry5567
@hyukleberry5567 2 жыл бұрын
2010 shoujo anime flash backs
@spugelo359
@spugelo359 2 жыл бұрын
The albama trope.
@deliriousfreezer9236
@deliriousfreezer9236 2 жыл бұрын
The worst part is the rest of the characters don't even consider her weird, simply a rival
@MythicalHex
@MythicalHex 2 жыл бұрын
on the same line there's the cousins and step sisters usually raised by the same people but they must be part of that harem (barf)
@glitchygear9453
@glitchygear9453 2 жыл бұрын
The "anime diets" you mentioned are pretty similar to what people in Japan eat. Including sporty, active people. There's a reason anime characters are often so excited to eat meat, a reason why so many characters default to white rice, a reason why the foods they eat are so different from American foods; it reflects the Japanese diet, including the diet of very physically active Japanese individuals. Most of your points were very good though. I'm usually okay with the edgy loner character, or the love interest, but it doesn't mean I don't prefer better.
@vrinkee
@vrinkee 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's just a difference in genetics and environment. I'm half Filipino and plenty of my friends and relatives eat a lot of rice and don't get fat. They do get fat once they move to America and eat an American diet though. Unfortunately for me, I get fat eating too much rice and wheat it seems. :( I've also watched this documentary on KZbin about this Korean-American that was adopted by white parents in the US. He decided to find his family in Korea, and it turns out he had an identical twin. Although they were identical at birth, their diet and lifestyle actually caused drastic differences between them. The twin who grew up in Korea was at least two inches taller, but he had worse teeth (though America does have a bit of an obsession when it comes to teeth). Otherwise, a lot of these points are great.
@blenderpain8249
@blenderpain8249 2 жыл бұрын
@@vrinkee Sounds like fraternal twins. There's no way height is going to be that much of a difference. American may be the capital of obesity and fast foods but generally, most Americans aren't malnourished.
@titanenwurz-uwutopia
@titanenwurz-uwutopia 2 жыл бұрын
@@blenderpain8249 Wrong. 2 inches is even a relatively common height difference, even in identical twins, but this is influenced by both nature and nurture too.
@titanenwurz-uwutopia
@titanenwurz-uwutopia 2 жыл бұрын
@@blenderpain8249 Idk about that part. I would assume yes, but it certainly depends on the household.
@tadicahya6439
@tadicahya6439 2 жыл бұрын
i eat rice everyday and don't get fat lol
@imdani4997
@imdani4997 2 жыл бұрын
Trope I'm tired of: -Bad boy ml that is an a** to the fl 90% of the time but she still like him just because he's nice to her, ONCE. Then the author gives him sad backstory to make us forget everything 💀 -Damsel in distress that can't do anything without her the ml/love interest(s) and always need to be saved. Idk it just annoy me. At least if she can stand up for herself by words it's good enough -Tsunderes. Both male and female tsunderes. Male ones tend to be harsh by words only. However some authors always exaggerate female tsunderes to the point they physically hurt others. It's overused and not funny anymore -Pervert characters that whole personality revolves around them being pervert. They are often used for random fanservice
@seyurin2881
@seyurin2881 2 жыл бұрын
the number 3 one is so true. I notice that most tsundere female character would often be violent towards their love interest while male tsundere will use brutal words to hurt your feelings lolol takeru sasazuka and ulrik I'm looking at you two lmaoo
@evewhoo
@evewhoo 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was called…. Black Prince and Wolf Girl that I found years ago? That one was a very good example of that. From what I remembered, the male lead was just incredibly… rude and mean to the female lead, and even when a guy who was far more kind and patient with her came along and even went on a date or two I think… he was turned down for the a-hole. Yet people still like that series? I mean to each their own but I can’t get behind something like that. There are real people who find the bad boy/girl personality attractive. It rarely seems to be a very positive relationship. It’d be better if the series addressed that kind of twisted relationship, but most of the time it seems to just be the usual shoujo stuff
@worstcompanyrequiem7813
@worstcompanyrequiem7813 2 жыл бұрын
Tsundere is weird. If you like someone why don't go and open up about it? MCs tends to have a lot of girls following them and there is always the generic childhood friend who always end up with the protag.
@enjisilverstone-nolongerac7533
@enjisilverstone-nolongerac7533 2 жыл бұрын
I love bad boy stories but would prefer stronger females because I love to sympathise with characters
@MGNew
@MGNew 2 жыл бұрын
No
@morganmiller41
@morganmiller41 2 жыл бұрын
the trope I hate is forgiving the villain after the did the most crazy things. These villain commented mass murder and brought the land to ruin. Sometimes even kill someone important to the MC or their friends. Most of the time they don't even apologize they just tell their sad backstory that no way justifies anything they did. Everyone is always so cool with it.
@syedarizvi7290
@syedarizvi7290 Жыл бұрын
This. Seriously exactly this. I hate this trope its ridiculous
@etheron1235
@etheron1235 Жыл бұрын
Steven Universe
@gojiralegendary4009
@gojiralegendary4009 Жыл бұрын
@@etheron1235 that's why Berserk and Goblin Slayer are my fav anime. The MC don't know about sympathy and don't hesitate to kill, as example Goblin Slayer kill goblin babies without regret but anger in front his teammates
@mrm0nty550
@mrm0nty550 Жыл бұрын
Or when another villain that did something objectively less bad, but slighted the MC personally gets obliterad, but someone with a kill count in the thousands is forgiven because "muh sad backstory"
@AnimeW
@AnimeW Жыл бұрын
Naruto be like:
@rinmoriuzumaki6448
@rinmoriuzumaki6448 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the murder is bad trope so much like "I CANT KILL THE VILLAIN AFTER KILLING ALL HIS HENCHMAN BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE ME NO DIFFERENT FROM HIM". suddenly they become idealisims and decide that killing a guy who killed millions is bad while killing their henchmen was okay thinking the audience wont notice. example. Avatar the last airbender. Aang through a ton of fire benders of a mountain by making an avalanche, sank a ton of ships in the last ep of season 1, ect. but suddenly he cant kill ozai
@Skatercat4r
@Skatercat4r 6 ай бұрын
Ozai probably did more damage than the other firebenders too but no he's the one who gets to live
@JustSomeDude42
@JustSomeDude42 5 ай бұрын
I’ve never thought Aang killed people willingly. I feel while the show could have made it clearer that the firebenders on the mountain example lived, they also never truly hinted at them dying either. Keep in mind this is a world where a giant rock can be launched at someone going 35 mph through the air and a complete normy survived most the time. They also show in that same episode the fire nation soldiers just being mildly inconvenienced by the avalanche? Like they’re entirely nonplussed about being covered in snow but otherwise fine. A great example of not killing is when they’re invading the fire nation and actively taking the time not to kill. I think it’s Hakoda who goes out of his way to disarm or incapacitate enemy combatants non-lethal. Which gets really funny when he throws a spear side ways and takes two grown men out like he just threw a heavy weighted rope. This part I might be entirely misremembering, but I’m vaguely certain during the comet they show multiple times that the air ship crews survived and were huddled on rocks or something, crowding in together when Aang raises the ocean to put out the fire. Avatar state gets weird cause for the vast majority of the story it’s not even Aang, it’s the collective of previous avatars acting through him, making Aang less of an individual. More so even with the Ocean Spirit. I’m pretty sure the only two confirmed kills we have are Jet and Katara’s mother. Everything else can be waved away as goofy coincidental muracles in hindsight.
@funkylion90s
@funkylion90s 4 ай бұрын
What JustSomeDude42 said. Not only that, Aang is the LAST surviving member of the air benders and the air nommads. If he kills Ozai right then and there, then his entire culture made of peace and love would die. The responsibilities of reviving the airvender culture was put onto him and any decision he makes can be drastic of how everyone in the world can put onto it. Its not that he didnt want Ozai to die for his crimes, its just that HE didnt want to be the one to kill Ozai due to the sense of responsibility of keepinh the airbender ideals alive, hence why taking away Ozai's bending was his best way to deal with the problem and any action towards Ozai can be dealt with by the other nations.
@JustSomeDude42
@JustSomeDude42 4 ай бұрын
@@funkylion90s that’s actually a really good point I hadn’t considered. I often forget Aang is the Last Airbender, even more so given he has a more direct link to true air bending culture than any potential descendant would possibly have.
@indescribablycoolikeafurniture
@indescribablycoolikeafurniture Ай бұрын
not even fucking THE OWL HOUSE had this problem lol
@stuckerfan2563
@stuckerfan2563 2 жыл бұрын
My most dislike trope in anime and in fiction in general sometimes. Is trauma begone.Where there's a character who has trauma mental health issue or personal problems that plagues said character but when a character (preferably the mc) talks to him 'genuinely' or the character finally confronts or knows what is causing it. It immediately disappears never to be seen or talked about ever again. And this makes me angry sometimes because it feels disingenuous to those who have gone through it.Because getting over those things isn't easy it isn't just you finally know the cause or someone talks to you and it's gone.No it takes years to get it together and control it.Yes control it not get rid of it.Because most of the times you can't get rid of It. It will still stick to you and still have remnan but you can learn to not Affect you in any destructive way. This trope makes it feel like those problems aren't a issue at all.When it is.It isn't easy for people to change or grow.Because sometimes it takes only one mistake to fall back to the very beginning or sometimes people just regress to what they use to do. And as someone who is going through a lot of personal issues this makes me angry because it feels like all my hard work to improving myself and facinng my own problems feel like a waste of time. I mean i wish it was that easy that a simple speech or talk with someone Would fix all my problems but that's the thing it isn't.
@Opalescent
@Opalescent 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god THANK YOU. That has always bugged me as well because the plot would be more compelling if there was an accurate depiction of mental health/trauma. Too many tv shows use trauma as a way to make things "edgy" but don't follow through
@stuckerfan2563
@stuckerfan2563 2 жыл бұрын
@@Opalescent Or you know personal problems like self esteem issues or trust issues. It takes a considerable amount of time in order to improve on that problem
@elodie7141
@elodie7141 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone said it but tbh, I think tv shows, movies, or anime focus solely on the story and the plot and the worldbuilding and characters and powers, etc; rather (also ) than the mental, emotional and psychological damage, illness, issues, impact, and trauma maybe because it takes another effort and time to be realistic and precise to depict the psychological side perfectly. It can ''mess up'' the origin of the story too because of the psychological side, it can change the characters and their personality and their behavior, etc; which also affects the whole story. I agree with you on this statement, but you get what I mean.
@dagmar.rokita.author
@dagmar.rokita.author 2 жыл бұрын
I agree VEEEERY MUCH
@krismarshall3803
@krismarshall3803 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there are too many simple minded people out there that want fast recovery for characters so they can't dwell on the baggage. Like take Legend of Korra final season. Korra was going through some major PTSD tramua and a chunk of fans kept of ragging on her for not snapping out of it quick enough. Even peopel I watched it with IRL were giving her shit when she lost that match against Kuvira. Its infuriating tbh.
@jeromerichardson7980
@jeromerichardson7980 2 жыл бұрын
One trope I hate is the perceived pervert when the MC accidentally fell on girl or accidentally walked in on a girl the girl(tsundere) kept calling him a pervert despite being an accident
@Tny6000
@Tny6000 2 жыл бұрын
But why tf the authors even make them accidents, them are the most unfunny shit I've seen
@melaniey.5596
@melaniey.5596 2 жыл бұрын
I hate it too because it’s authors wanting to have their cake and eat it too. They wanna have the vicarios feeling of the (usually self-insert) MC do sexy stuff without being an asshole pervert or in a non-chaste committed relationship, so they do it “accidentally”. If they want sexy times so much why can’t it be with the female character wanting it?! Is it because I would make her a slut?! (and we can’t have that in a waifu) Is it because it would be hentai?! (and if the line of what is or is not hentai is the presence of consent that’s messed up).
@66DoodleGal
@66DoodleGal 2 жыл бұрын
Or even if it’s the girl walking in on the guy or she’s the one who falls on top of the guy, somehow he still the pervert
@isalemoine3514
@isalemoine3514 3 ай бұрын
There is one female character like that in Fire Force (fire fighter with fire power). It's like all her fate is "fan service" and awkward sexy pose with her and the guys hating it.
@Sarafimm2
@Sarafimm2 13 сағат бұрын
@@Tny6000 It's so common that it's not funny anymore. It's become boring.
@roxaroo
@roxaroo 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely despise the "sexual harassment for laughs" trope. Or the out of nowhere fanservice by having the camera view pointed towards someones private parts during a random dialogue scene. Happens way too much with female characters being viewed from underneath to get a pantyshot or to zoom in on their chest while they are standing around or talking to someone ...
@darkrain1612
@darkrain1612 2 жыл бұрын
Fairy tail...
@typicalsugarcookie8101
@typicalsugarcookie8101 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I HATE IT SO MUCH!!
@RandomPerson-bg3bv
@RandomPerson-bg3bv 2 жыл бұрын
Im a guy and that shit pisses me off, like let me watch my shit in peace. P L E A S E
@Frosty_McFrost05
@Frosty_McFrost05 2 жыл бұрын
Yes omg it's so annoying
@edeniceribeiro7075
@edeniceribeiro7075 2 жыл бұрын
And it's even worse when it's underage characters yikes
@finaladvance5085
@finaladvance5085 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe, seen in every isekai I have ever come across, is “forced cultural assimilation” Where in the main character shows up at some under developed town or something and within half a month the entire town is now a city, has public bathing, eats Japanese food, has completely lost their history and absolutely adores the main character that brought all this change. Even conquering Europeans throughout history, who are basically professionals at exactly that, took way longer and earns the ire of basically the entire world including other Europeans.
@bluxrcst
@bluxrcst Жыл бұрын
LITERALLYYY.. isekai is a genre that has so much fucking potential. it just needs the right person
@theye29
@theye29 10 ай бұрын
The problem of europeans is that they cant use fucking magic to just spawn modern things into other countrys, for example there is an anime of a guy who reincanarted as a farmer and Took several months to build a good home, because he was thrown in a world without any information about it before, just a tool that transforms into any tool, a body that never get sick and done, now imagine if he could use magic?
@mzaid8437
@mzaid8437 2 жыл бұрын
the loner trope can be good. sometimes the character have a reason to be alone that make sense and is actually interesting. but sometimes it can get a bit boring if it's just the character. some pieces of advice that might work: 1. making them alone is an option. there's a difference between a loner and an alone person. 2. in a five man band situation, sometimes ya gotta cripple the main badass so the side / lesser badass can show off
@Kgopani3101
@Kgopani3101 Жыл бұрын
Good case guts Shit case kirito
@lampsenpai4325
@lampsenpai4325 2 жыл бұрын
I really hate the pervert main character trope that gets to do these bad things because they were bullied or something and somehow collects a harem despite being a total jerk
@Frosty_McFrost05
@Frosty_McFrost05 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@SinarBaru-bp4jx
@SinarBaru-bp4jx 2 жыл бұрын
And it was dxd anime what i hate it
@unknowngod8221
@unknowngod8221 2 жыл бұрын
this is why most people even fan of it hate anime harem
@titan9546
@titan9546 2 жыл бұрын
Mushako tensei is an exception here look i know that rudues commits some haneous acts that should absolutely be frowned upon but that's what's wrong with the character not the show no one in the show celebrates his perverted actions and actually for once is a protagonist who actually grows his character development is probably the best part of the series(I'm saying this after completing the light novel)in the end he turns into such an inspirational character that everyone should admire I have seen some videos on mushako and have observed a trend that anyone who defends the show is being shit upon by labeling them as a pedo I mean like common people who have read the manga know this really well abt how fking good it gets no isekia even comes close its world building Was really frustrated that people r shitting on it without even wathcing it its a gem of series that is truly magnificent
@LuminousArc92
@LuminousArc92 2 жыл бұрын
@@titan9546 no I shit on MT because it's shit. Read the first volume and it was one of the worst things I've ever read but I went against my gut because of all the people singing praises. Dropped partway through volume 2 because my gut was not wrong and those people lied Here's the thing about Rudeus: he's a pedophile on top of being a narcissistic sociopath. I mean he's a 43+7 year old man who sexually abuses literal children and is rewarded with the victims of his abuse. Sylvie is groomed by him, a literal 7 year old girl. He thinks how he's raising her to be his perfect woman, and as her magic teacher he has authority over her. It's literal textbook grooming. Eris is a 9 year old girl, he finds her asleep in the barn and he molests her, commenting on the size of her chest. She is NINE YEARS OLD. Then since she didn't wake up he tries to remove and steal her underwear. And he gets rewarded with Eris he never faces any consequences for what he does to those girls since he ends up with them at the end and it's disgusting. Frankly I don't care how much supposed growth he has and it doesn't matter. He will never not be a monster for what he did who feels no remorse for it on him being a narcissistic sociopath, he doesn't care about other people. He only helps Lilia not get kicked out for sleeping with Paul because it would be inconvenient for him if she wasn't there. That's it. He uses water magic to mimic tears to manipulate Ghislaine into helping him teach Eris because he's incapable of sincerity. At his party he fakes tears at being a gift by Eris, her mom thinking that oh he's just a scared kid away from his family. And he's like oh was my acting too good? Oh but he does face one consequence when he gets someone killed when trying to make himself seem cooler. But that's his narcissism that takes the hit. He also tries the claim of oh if only my old family supported me, got me a job and a place to live, and provided me with spending money like Paul is doing for me now then I could have turned my life around. As if they weren't doing just that until he couldn't even be bothered to go to his parents funeral because he was too busy getting off to uncensored loli porn as to the writing being trash: what's the tone? It feels like it thinks it's supposed to be funny but it's not. The magical clearing of his trauma. Roxy puts him on a horse and rides across the property line he couldn't bring himself to pass and suddenly poof his trauma is gone, like it was never there. Does he relapse or hesitate to confront the bullies targeting Sylvie the first time? Nope. Does he panic or have good and bad days when shipped to a literal other city where he knows nobody? Nope. So why give him the trauma at all then. The alleged amazing worldbuilding of the series, why is that not at the start where it should be? If something is claimed to have amazing worldbuilding then my expectation is that it's there from the first book/episode. MT doesn't though and it would be so easy to do. Paul, Zenith, Lilia were adventurers/travelers. You're telling me they never told him stories? Why not share those stories with us to tease the world? He reads a lot of books but do we learn those contents? Nope, cause that would be good writing and storytelling and MT could never literally the one and only positive thing that can be said about Mushoku Tensei is that the anime looks really good. And that has absolutely nothing to do with MT itself so it doesn't even count
@ryuumajin
@ryuumajin 2 жыл бұрын
i kinda resent the trope of "female protag who can punch the powerful protag into mars but then bullied by the enemyes (to the point of fan service) just for the male protag to save her butt". It really gives a false "Wow she's actually stronger than the main protags" sense or "Awww he has soft spot on her".
@Opalescent
@Opalescent 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. That's why I enjoyed the female characters in Jujutsu Kaisen for example being as independant (and actually strong from hard work) as they are
@midnightloveletterstothespirit
@midnightloveletterstothespirit 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Sakura. But then again, I don’t think that she was actually supposed to be a combatant since I don’t think Tsunade trained her in fighting but more in evasion due to her being a Medical Ninja and all, but there were so many ways for her super strength to be useful in battle. I also sometimes notice how she ends up getting dumbed down because in her fight with Sasori she was sharp, manage to adapt to Sasori’s movements/fighting style, and was tactical or strategic that she pretended to be infected by the poison to kill the main puppet Sasori was using and was taught Evasion Skills by Tsunade but then suddenly she has very poor reflexes to the point she just gets hit by any attack, for someone who was sharp and was able to adapt to battle she wasn’t even able to adapt when Sai, Naruto, and her were fighting against people from the Sand, I think (?) and then she only knows how to punch in close range when she can make shockwaves out of her punches and destroy the terrain to throw your enemy out of balance.
@kyleshoto
@kyleshoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightloveletterstothespirit It was weird and poorly executed on how Tsunade said Sakura has surpassed her and she’s boxing Madara face to face but sakura can’t do a damn thing except heal in the presence of Naruto and Sasuke.
@kirbyfan3000
@kirbyfan3000 2 жыл бұрын
Bulma and chichi in dragon ball
@micharosa6201
@micharosa6201 2 жыл бұрын
This comment, depending what personality type female protagonist is, feels like a typical bully who actually punches weak people to feel superior over others, but ultimately is not really strong in good sense against actually strong people/monsters etc., but yeah again the point of depending on personality is depending on personality and in this case it can be different than what i said with promising character falling flat with "Misunderstanding cliche and the whole "Awww he has soft spot on her" ads salt to the wound.
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 2 жыл бұрын
I think most of these can be boiled down to: "Character is entirely uninteresting, but show decides to spend a lot of time on it anyway."
@GrimReaver
@GrimReaver 2 жыл бұрын
One anime trope that I find annoying and that a lot of people don’t talk about is the “God/Angels are evil and Devils are good” trope. While it’s not exactly common, it happens enough to where I see a pattern and while I’m not exactly religious, it does annoy me to see it happen after the first few times.
@noelle9724
@noelle9724 Жыл бұрын
Wait, why does it potraying angels of death?
@GD-xk8cb
@GD-xk8cb Жыл бұрын
And then there's Doom Eternal where both are evil
@StonedHunter
@StonedHunter Жыл бұрын
Eh personally I enjoy it when done well, but I'm honestly just sick of seeing Christianity (even fantasy versions of it) being touted as the one true good in the world in so much more media (in and out of anome)...so for me I find the switch to be much needed.
@strangevol5264
@strangevol5264 Жыл бұрын
And also, in the old testament, specifically the Book of Job, Satan was moreso God’s persecution attorney, and was held in high regard. It makes you wonder why the belief system turned him and the demons evil.
@Perroden
@Perroden Жыл бұрын
@@StonedHunter christianity is good and has brought only good to the world.
@itsjustkingy
@itsjustkingy 2 жыл бұрын
i see zenitsu as an exception to the loud reaction category as he at first just seems annoying but seeing him grow from that to someone who would sacrifice himself for others was really good character development
@vwoeng7477
@vwoeng7477 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention he actually had to work hard bettering himself to get Nezuko's attention and eventually love. It's in the post finale chapter where Zenitsu lazes about while Tanjirou, Nezuko, and even Inosuke have daily chores so Zenitsu was jealous when Nezuko is seemingly close to Inosuke. Tanjirou, in opposite of the usual overprotective oniichan, pointed out Zenitsu's laziness and how it affected Nezuko's view of him (as a younger brother to be babied rather than potential husband) That pushed Zenitsu to stop being a whiny lazyass and put work into the household chores. So we get an oniichan who knows his sister have the capability to choose the right man but also a good bro to his friend, and the whiny sidekick who do have to get better to win the girl
@nvnvnv13
@nvnvnv13 Жыл бұрын
Tbh with u, Zenitsu is the only one who has a good character development in Kimetsu No Yaiba, imo. Tokito was too sudden and Tanjiro had that wishy washy moment in one of Genya's flashback. That's the reason why Zenitsu is now my fav character, even tho he can be called as a pervert (at first). Gotoge is not good at character development, but she is good at creating a sad backstory. I admit, I cried twice reading the manga 🤣
@dan.dandan
@dan.dandan Жыл бұрын
@@nvnvnv13 the storyline is good, but in terms of character development well... not everyone can be good at everything I guess (the ending tho😬)
@nvnvnv13
@nvnvnv13 Жыл бұрын
@@dan.dandan oh yeaaaa I hate the first ending lol Who cares who's going to end up with who?! This manga is not supposed to be romance, I just wanna know what happen to Tanjiro and co now that they're done with their mission!!! 🤧🤧🤧
@beamingpearl3029
@beamingpearl3029 Жыл бұрын
@NvRp Sanemi also had some pretty good character development after realizing that when his brother was going to die, he noticed how much he actually cared for his little bro, same goes for Giyu, when Giyu talked to tanjiro about Sabito tanjiro cheered him up and Giyu tried being more outroverted, there are other characters too
@mastermindmokie7401
@mastermindmokie7401 2 жыл бұрын
I know it’s argued wether Avatar is an anime or not but I feel like the “no killing” trope provides a really good conflict that is backed up by a really good motive past “killing is just wrong so I don’t do it”. Aang is a pacifist raised by Monks and he wants to hold onto those beliefs passed down from his people even thought they were all killed. It even gives one of the most ironic justice when they defeat the fire lord by taking his power away instead of just “using the unmatched power of the avatar”.
@worstcompanyrequiem7813
@worstcompanyrequiem7813 2 жыл бұрын
Avatar is one of the best things ever maded. Everything there was just so well made.
@afrina3781
@afrina3781 Жыл бұрын
@@worstcompanyrequiem7813 what bad company requiem would look like?
@andrewgreeb916
@andrewgreeb916 Жыл бұрын
Beliefs are all well and fine, but the real good stuff comes out when those beliefs are tested, when following your beliefs makes your life astronomically harder, or when you have to compromise them to save people.
@TechnoArpan
@TechnoArpan Жыл бұрын
I agree for the most part, but Avatar kinda fumbled the execution at the end with the Lion Turtle deus ex machina Phenomenal show, though
@vazinaypeter
@vazinaypeter Жыл бұрын
its the main reason why i hate aang
@notarandomname
@notarandomname 2 жыл бұрын
VERY. MUCH. AGREED. These tropes (especially 1, 3, 5 and 7) have so much potential for nuance and diversity, and it kinda saddens me to see some of them simply get recycled. Not that it makes me like an anime less, but ones with different takes on said tropes do tend to stand out to me more.
@Opalescent
@Opalescent 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, some are so close to being more than cliches but it's like most writers prefer to comfortably settle into stuff like this! So when those tropes are done above average it totally stands out
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 2 жыл бұрын
@@Opalescent 06 . 9:01 why in usa so many mass shooting. so killing pople like not a problem. whereas in jepan firearms are prohibited
@antoinesilva1527
@antoinesilva1527 2 жыл бұрын
@@Opalescent That’s why I both love and loath School Days. It kinda deconstructed the harem genre by making the MC manipulative and scummy at the end.
@skycastrum5803
@skycastrum5803 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, noticing emphasis on all the odd numbers.
@vikafdrv3301
@vikafdrv3301 2 жыл бұрын
The “fernemmy” trope is straight up the friend version of “I can fix him🥺”
@liandoaethend2403
@liandoaethend2403 Жыл бұрын
Would work if its executed properly, like both hates each other, buth worked with each other regardless because of circumstances, later learns about each other, preferably this trope better if it ended with friend-rivals type of relationship for frenemies
@blue9649
@blue9649 7 ай бұрын
@@liandoaethend2403 but then it'd be a different trope. I think the best way to execute it would be to start the MC off as meek who doesn't understand true friendship, have the MC learn throughout the series, and then have the MC begin to distance from Frenemy as a result because they now understand that: 1. Frenemy was never a friend to begin with, and 2. that regardless of if they still want to be friends with Frenemy, no means no, and it's okay not to be friends with everyone.
@firenze6478
@firenze6478 2 жыл бұрын
Actually batman has a real excuse. For one, he’s not stopping the cops or law from executing him, that’s gotham’s decision and it’s implied that they are capitalizing off of the jokers popularity. There are several reasons batman doesn’t kill joker himself. 1. It would inspire other vigilantes to copy him and create a cult like following of murderers dressed up like batman. 2. He believes the city should decide joker’s fate, whether its death or treatment. 3. And most importantly, batman is borderline insane himself and believes that if he kills someone he may just start killing all of his enemies. He hates criminals with a burning passion and secretly wants to kill them all.
@kellyntaylor8184
@kellyntaylor8184 3 ай бұрын
As always, it’s the government’s fault. Thank you for this information, I now understand why Batman or the cops don’t just shoot the villains(that don’t have bullet proof skin)
@SomebodyAteMyCookies
@SomebodyAteMyCookies 3 ай бұрын
The reasons are dumb though like he should kill him to stop the deaths who cares what the city wants
@H240909
@H240909 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, if I was living in Gotham I would be breaking down the doors of local politicians and demanding, “Why hasn’t the murder clown gotten the chair yet!? He’s poisoned the water five times in time it took to get down here!” It also doesn’t help that writers keep misdiagnosing him. Like he’s not “criminally insane”. He very aware that what he’s doing is wrong. He just doesn’t care.
@jonaski08
@jonaski08 2 жыл бұрын
I think the rice is part is a bit of a nitpick on your part imo. Since rice is a staple food in Japan, I think it is reasonable and cultural to portray anime characters eating a lot of rice if the scene depicts characters wanting to get big or strong.
@BoxingTrainingJourney
@BoxingTrainingJourney Жыл бұрын
I know I'm late and hate being late, but that makes no sense. Asian bodybuilders eat foods with protein more than any other foods so it makes zero sense for them to mainly eat plain rice just cause it's part of their culture.
@victordeluca7360
@victordeluca7360 Жыл бұрын
@@BoxingTrainingJourney Yup It doesn't matter if it's Japan or Brazil, rice won't give you enough proteins on its own. The video criticizes only-rice diets in sports anime, to gain bulk, and I think that's very fair criticism because it is unrealistic af.
@ーテイル
@ーテイル Жыл бұрын
@@BoxingTrainingJourney Bad example as Body building is not so much of a sport. Yet, they do eat a lot of rice since it helps with rapid muscle recovery (aka muscle cell growth) On the other hand, people like sumo wrestlers do eat a lot and their diet has a lot of rice in it. It's for energy. Sumo wrestlers have to train almost 8 hours a day and they need a lot of energy to do that, rice provides easy to access carbs that allows you to have enough energy to move for long period of time without the need of glucose that tends to be rare in Asian culture. "Rice, as part of a carbohydrate-rich post workout meal, helps ensure that muscles are re-stocked with glycogen. As training volume and intensities increase, more energy is required and the need for more carbohydrate-rich foods like U.S.-grown rice, also increases to maximize energy and improve workout performance." I'm not saying every single sport should do that (in fact, pre-workout is 200% more effective) but the criticism in question kinda proves that none of you actually looked up if it helps at all.
@gilabrador
@gilabrador Жыл бұрын
@@victordeluca7360 do you think sumo wrestlers have the same body type to other body builders? the difference is rice. ahaha
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 Жыл бұрын
Give me a single anime where the characters are very buffed only eating rice. All the big shonen big eaters there also eat a crazy amount of meat which is rich in protein
@0kekaiyolamneckkayo722
@0kekaiyolamneckkayo722 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the 7 tropes but the last one with the rice...? Wtf?!! Idk if you heard Asia, like 99% of people eat rice there? Also Rice just a side dish, it's just there to fill in you belly especially if you have little food. like for example a one whole salmon and just rice can feed 5 people that why we eat rice It's very convenient.
@smilesimile5194
@smilesimile5194 2 жыл бұрын
That criticism was so weird. He kept on talking about how it makes no sense that anime has the focus in rice, and I was just like, has this dude ever interacted with a single East Asian? Same thing with the humor point where they do somewhat acknowledge that the fact that they find a lot of anime humor unfunny may be a result of cultural differences, but then they completely write it off and turn to the whole “this makes no sense” argument. It would have been fine if they didn’t add that second part since it’s still perfectly valid to criticize something you find unentertaining even if it is the result of cultural differences.
@starburst98
@starburst98 2 жыл бұрын
I think he was specifically talking about how in isekai they act like rice is the single greatest food in existence and not even the fantasy world 3 layered magic omega cake can compare.
@0kekaiyolamneckkayo722
@0kekaiyolamneckkayo722 2 жыл бұрын
@@starburst98 bruh... He's not even talking about rice in isekai he's, talking about rice in every anime that a protagonist finished training they always eat a lot of food with rice. That's what he was complaining about.
@johnmandrage3248
@johnmandrage3248 2 жыл бұрын
@@0kekaiyolamneckkayo722 He isn't talking about rice showing up in normal meals, but specifacly that eating rice for bodybuilding makes no sense to him because of it's nutritional values. It's like showing a western bodybuilder eating just a giant pile of bread.
@vindric8330
@vindric8330 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was puzzled since I could eat more than a two bowl of rice on a daily basis.
@xedusk
@xedusk 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a bit confused by the examples in the Frenemies bit. Naruto hated Sasuke until they genuinely became friends with one another. Sasuke was willing to die to save Naruto from Haku and when thinking about how Itachi got his power from killing his best friend Sasuke’s mind went to Naruto. Sasuke obviously considered Naruto his friend. Deku, while looking up to Bakugo, I don’t think saw him as a friend, at least not at the point when the show started. He saw him as a friend when he was little, but when the show started, right before Deku met All Might, Deku was always angry at or scared of Bakugo. Deku didn’t want anything bad to happen to him, but typically tried to avoid him most of the time.
@Flaris
@Flaris 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty safe to say Deku didn't see Bakugo as a friend to start...since he was his bully! I'm definitely with you there. He tried to help him because of the desire to help someone in trouble, not because he liked him at that point. Story progression could remind him of things he still respected about Bakugo and things could somewhat build up in a positive direction there. But it's not like he was friendly with him to start.
@vronji
@vronji 2 жыл бұрын
@@Flaris I don't even know why people saw Deku and Bakugou as friends, especially in the beginning. When Deku saves Bakugou from the slime villian, it wasn't Deku trying to save a friend, it was Deku saving someone despite his hatred for the person because of his kind and heroic nature. Supposedly, at least. Because of how friendly Deku is, it makes it seem like Deku has completely forgiven the horrible stuff Bakugou has done and said to him pretty early on.
@hydrofalls8154
@hydrofalls8154 2 жыл бұрын
The relationship at the start was weird in more ways than 1 for both of them. Frankly the way I see it is more them learning to untangle that mess.
@garukong.
@garukong. 2 жыл бұрын
@LlEUCU. BEAU× well, i dont ship them but i do sorta like their dynamic. there's more to their relationship than just bully and victim. it may be that way in middle school but it's pretty obvious that bakugou doesn't actually _hate_ deku, he did however, expressed himself through hate towards deku, if that make sense. it's just that their relationship is more complex than what's shown on the surface. i can sense a genuine character and relationship development from the two of them that implies bakugo have actually always cared for or respected deku, it's just that the feeling is burried really deep by his own personal issues. ofc, that doesn't mean what bakugo did was ok, i'm just saying there's more to their relationship.
@garukong.
@garukong. 2 жыл бұрын
@LlEUCU. BEAU× i never said what he did was ok or that those reasons justified his actions. i also pretty much hate him. i'm just saying, there's more to them than just a one-dimensional relationship between a bully and a victim. and about how deku supports him after all he did to him, i guess that's just one of those annoying traits shounen mc have, being forigiving and absolutely not caring what happen(s)/(ed) to them. it's a work of fiction, some narratives are exaggerated for the plot. and for me personally, i like redemption arcs, not just on bakugo but other characters like him as well. i still will feel hatred towards them and understanding their reasons for their actions doesn't rly erase that, it's just that i find these type of character's complexity interesting.
@1rtle
@1rtle 2 жыл бұрын
Adding to the harem one; the protagonist most often chooses the character who they have the weakest link/worst relationship in the beggening with. Like there is a beautiful outgoing girl who you have a great bond with already or your bestest bro who has been your friend for your whole life who you supported/got supported by standing right infornt of you but yet you choose the mean tsundere girl who beats you up. (My grammar is crap sorry)
@worstcompanyrequiem7813
@worstcompanyrequiem7813 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimed they choose that childhood friend with zero personality and background character traces.
@Rodolphin
@Rodolphin 2 жыл бұрын
Most of harem anime I seen/read is the girl who the audience first meets will be the one who ends up with the protagonist.
@yunfeikwon
@yunfeikwon 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like nisekoi😂
@veeramdeosinghrathore1533
@veeramdeosinghrathore1533 2 жыл бұрын
I agree so much with your point about loud reaction characters being used to sacrifice the emotional depth of a scene or arc for laughs.
@missnescau
@missnescau 2 жыл бұрын
I think u guys misinterpreted Amelie from Mairimashita Iruma-kun She was always a Baddie with a soft side, not changing around Iruma Actually, she was capable of showing more real sides of her after meting him And, in the manga, she still very strong and relevant
@MikaKahdarmon
@MikaKahdarmon 2 жыл бұрын
6:12 Ameri in "Welcome to the Demon School Iruma-kun" is and stays a badass thoughout the entire series, so I don't completely get your point. She is the main love interest for Iruma. Later in the manga they go on dates and even though she gets Insecure when she thinks about Iruma, it doesn't makes her character any worse. It makes it even better, because the things she gets insecure about are very humane and relatable. She's a tall, strong girl with a very small boyfried. Therefore she's afraid to being perceived as intimidating, unfeminine or not "cute enough". But Iruma accepts her as she is and they have very sweet moments with each other. If your're talking about Clara, then I don't get your point either. While she has a little less "screentime” in the later chapter, due to the growing cast, she gets stronger and less of a joke character over time. So I think you really couldn't be farther from the truth, with your choice of example.
@aristotleisarocker
@aristotleisarocker 2 жыл бұрын
yep ameri is just like all those teenage girls crushing on someone. she didnt dumbed down.. those were legit young lady traits. look at the walter park arc. she hold herself along with opera in defeating the boss.. she is capable around everything.. she did faced up against the evil cycle iruma even she is panicking and crushing on the inside she still asked and dig deeper into why iruma wanted the royal one a real student council president should do. she also put iruma in the student council training (not playing favorite). chose other anime but it isnt right choosing ameri as a dumbed down character.
@sadie4773
@sadie4773 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah as that anime being one of my favorites I was really surprised to see Clara on the thumbnail of a video like this Personally I could list manyyy other female anime characters who would fit the bill this person is talking about much better But Clara? As someone who is female myself she has been one of my favorite characters since the first episodes and I never saw her as a character that would necessarily be as strong as the rest of the main cast but I think that’s fine. Not every set main/secondary characters have to be strong. I mean look at all the other strong characters we have like Ameri who like you said represents taller/stronger women who also have romantic thoughts.
@AngelicMilkyYT
@AngelicMilkyYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@sadie4773 I found it weird that Clara was on the thumbnail too
@shinobix4925
@shinobix4925 2 жыл бұрын
Same with Shokugeki, the two "examples" I know of are Irina and Mito (I haven't finished the series yet sobmaybe there is a character I haven't seen who does fall into this trope but the editing seems to hint that they were referring to Irina so my point should still work) but it's not like either of them lost their ability to be cool, Irina was cool because of her God Tongue, her sass, and her cooking ability, but long after she started to fall for Soma she still kept all 3 of these things throughout the series, Mito had a greater change in character after meeting Soma but that was less a case her losing her character and more just her becoming less cocky after losing so hard to someone she considered weak. Shokugeki is a lot of things but I don't think it's ripe with this trope
@Renikal
@Renikal 2 жыл бұрын
@@sadie4773 I also disagree with inclusion of Ameri and Clara but would like to ask if you also cried when she got sad when iruma refused her snacks? Asking as a fellow Clara fan. I would also like to ask if you went "awww" when Clara declared that she'll make iruma fall head over heels for her. Cuz that was really cute
@poppythedogofwonders
@poppythedogofwonders 2 жыл бұрын
On the topic of Bakugo and Izuku, I never got the impression that Izuku genuinely believes them to be friends, like, he would like to be friends again but knows that currently they aren't. I think he just acts more generally polite to Bakugo and the 'Kacchan' thing is a habit more than 'Hey we're friends'. Even him acting a bit more informal to Bakugo than others can be explained with the fact that they've known each other since forever and it's, once again, habit.
@babadoudidadouda
@babadoudidadouda Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with you. Also, if Bakugo keeps calling Izuku "Deku", I don't see why Izuku should stop using his childhood nickname for Bakugo. And I don't see how Izuku could be considered a stalker either, even if I know it's a popular take in some corners of the fandom. When did he stalk Bakugo in the story? If anything, Bakugo is the one making a lot of demands on Izuku, acting like he had somewhat the right to private informations on his life (his quirk) because he felt entitled to knowing (pre- character development) it due to their previous relationship.
@JayRedGear
@JayRedGear Жыл бұрын
@@babadoudidadouda Exactly. Whenever people bring up Izuku "stalking" Bakugo, it is basically just the flashback when they were 4 years old. And it wasn't even stalking because Bakugo didn't care that Izuku tagged along until that moment at the pod. Bakugo's the one who went out of his way and inject himself into Izuku's life, demanding information like you said because he felt he was entitled to know and he somehow made it seem like Izuku was hiding his Quirk to make him look bad.
@glam4663
@glam4663 Жыл бұрын
I think the same. Deku and Bakugo are more childhood friends that grew apart.
@yoshiro-chan4479
@yoshiro-chan4479 Жыл бұрын
​@@babadoudidadouda Bakugo continued to call Izuku "deku" cause it is an insult making it more clear that the dude was his bully and should've stopped that. But yeah I agree that Izuku calling Bakugo "kacchan" is rather out of habit than anything.
@Autumn-xs1bt
@Autumn-xs1bt Жыл бұрын
Exactly he wasn't all "oh he's like that but he's my friend" we do genuinely see his resentment towards Bakugo a few times and he can be just as competitive as Bakugo. He's kind and yeah he does care about Bakugo but no he didn't believe they were friends even once just said it's complicated
@ahnhyungseobhaveyoulearnth8286
@ahnhyungseobhaveyoulearnth8286 2 жыл бұрын
actually, in welcome to demon school, ameri is still a very strong woman on her own and even with iruma. she still works extremly hard for her goals, for her future and motivates literally everyone around her. she may be very much willing to do more stupid things because of iruma and is willing to let her guard of strongness down to just have some fun intimate times with iruma cus really, who can be strongminded all the time? i feel like m!ik handles that trope really well. theyve both inspired each other in so many ways. wouldnt call her dumbed down, i'd say its her acting her age a little more. cus in the personality swap arc you can see she isnt and hasnt been fully fond of her own strong headed personality. if anything, shes learning to embrace her stronger parts and the fact that she also wants to be cute, which she is. by far best girl.
@bagpaper6964
@bagpaper6964 2 жыл бұрын
exactly!!! I totally agree! She's the type with the growth mindset and influences others around her to grow. She puts clear boundaries between duty and having fun, her work ethic is admirable! Even after moving up a year, she's her own character who just happens to like this and that
@ahnhyungseobhaveyoulearnth8286
@ahnhyungseobhaveyoulearnth8286 2 жыл бұрын
@@bagpaper6964 exactly! she’s stayed her own person while accepting parts of herself she was trying to hide prior. both of them influenced each other in such an amazing way they’re genuinely so great together. she’s always willing to grow and she spreads that around to everyone she interacts with. she’s a one in a million female character.
@vapordragon2232
@vapordragon2232 2 жыл бұрын
They included an image of Clara when talking about it which also confused me because like ??? That’s her whole character? She’s silly and energetic and childish and she’s never been portrayed otherwise.
@ahnhyungseobhaveyoulearnth8286
@ahnhyungseobhaveyoulearnth8286 2 жыл бұрын
@@vapordragon2232 ion really remember the video fully (lol) but well clara is still growing. there’s her mother who is clearly like the rest of her family in the silly happy category but is also very strong. there’s high hopes for clara to put her energy to use and use it to be a powerful demon. hope they don’t change her main trait of being the one who always never stops and aims to have fun
@sowergamingbro5885
@sowergamingbro5885 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it feels like they never really looked in depth when it came to mairimashita iruma Kun that if you think about it they involuntarily fell into the "badass hot character has to be one dimensional with no complexities or hopes and dreams" trope
@high_sky8581
@high_sky8581 2 жыл бұрын
The 4th trope reminded me a lot of Misaka Mikoto from A Certain Magical Index where she turned into this puffy comedic tsundere character in front of the MC. Luckily she has her own spin off series named A Certain Scientific Railgun which are doing pretty well on their own that explores about her character more than just rotating around the MC.
@scribbles2877
@scribbles2877 2 жыл бұрын
Romanticized assault. I don't have too many examples, though it's still present in quite a bit of media, but the one that does come to mind is the case study of vanitas where he, vanitas, kisses Jeanne in the first hour of them meeting (when she's trying to kill him by the way) without her approving of it. That made me upset when I first watched the show. I was even more upset when Jeanne actually started falling for him and the fans found that first kiss attractive. That was assault, thank you very much, and it's a very bad thing. Just the "i love them because they aren't interested in me" trope.
@k.ferguson9385
@k.ferguson9385 2 жыл бұрын
Fr So disgusting
@bongrat08
@bongrat08 2 жыл бұрын
The tsundere trope but more specifically the violent tsundere trope really are the ones that piss me off the most.
@bluesoda840
@bluesoda840 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@bakedbeans5494
@bakedbeans5494 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluesoda840 Anime at 3:20?
@darthestar8791
@darthestar8791 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. There’s a difference between flirty mean, to a plain old jerk, to straight up psychopathic Wtf?!?!
@artofthepossible7329
@artofthepossible7329 2 жыл бұрын
@@bakedbeans5494 My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom!
@yourbackgarden6743
@yourbackgarden6743 2 жыл бұрын
batman has the no kill rules not because he is a goodie, but because he fears he will keep killing and become the very thing that made him batman.
@JohnWilliams-wl9px
@JohnWilliams-wl9px 2 жыл бұрын
There are countless examples of how Batman is just as broken as his villains. It’s just Batman chose to do good and wants try to help other people.
@laysmaxx5789
@laysmaxx5789 2 жыл бұрын
That's what makes him such an interesting character.
@blueglasses2843
@blueglasses2843 2 жыл бұрын
Batman who laughs and injustice sort of shows just what could've happen if the heroes choose to kill
@rossjones8656
@rossjones8656 2 жыл бұрын
Glad someone knows what's up with the bats and Gotham has never tried to kill the joker and I don't know why from a in-univers reason but ehh.
@CrazyHand7894
@CrazyHand7894 2 жыл бұрын
About Batman not killing the Joker: I get it, and I respect it. What I don't get is why he doesn't just get sentenced to death. Hell, why doesn't he get shot by a cop or even random Gothamite? If anyone did that, they'd be lauded as a hero.
@kamuyking551
@kamuyking551 2 жыл бұрын
I think the "one sided friendship" trope is like... a poor execution of a good idea. and it's poorly executed on a lot of levels, but it starts with the mean half of the pair. ultimately, I think the ideal version of the "mean friend" would be like, a misunderstood, sad backstory male tsundere, in the well constructed sense. (quick aside: tsunderes in general are an often butchered trope, which is why the one sided friendship trope is having trouble... it's already relying on having a tsundere that isn't poorly written, as the crux of it's functionality.) like, the ideal form for the mean friend would be someone who has genuine struggles connecting with people. someone who is defensive because in the past, they've actually had to defend themselves against something that really hurt them, and now their trust in other people is damaged. like, maybe genuine kindness comes off as duplicitous to them, unless they receive the kind of diehard proof that the nice half of this pair is ready to present to them. basically, it's a kind of social anxiety, mixed with a self fulfilling prophecy. due to trauma, this person has every reason to be anxious about the possibility of other people treating them horribly... and even worse, they suspect all kindness to be a thin veneer laid over top of cruel intentions. the lesson that a tsundere fundamentally needs to learn, is that their trauma can't become a reason for them to treat genuinely good people as though they're monsters. that behavior is just repeating the cycle of abuse by mistreating someone for basically no reason. the tsundere has to realize when their anxiety is misdirecting them, and take it upon themselves to change for the better. and there is this idea bubbling beneath the surface, that the nice friend is exactly what the mean friend wants deep down. and the nice friend is willing to be the person that gives them a chance to grow out of this worse version of themselves... the nice friend is supposed to be an idealistically patient and kind person who gives them a chance, before they've even given themselves a chance. and if only the mean friend can be convinced, somehow, that this kindness is real and it's not going to end up hurting them in the end... then they could move forward and become a much happier person. this is such a good springboard for creating a genuinely deep and complex character... it really is a travesty that "tsundere" is a blanket term that mostly makes you think of angry girls yelling "b-baka!" and hitting people. so yeah, that is the ideal form of the mean friend, but the nice friend can also come off as suuuuuch a doormat, if they endure too much mean treatment with no proof that anything is actually going on under the surface. like, if the nice friend is just a punching bag, then it's actually kind of hard to imagine how they can help the mean friend overcome their demons. like... _this marshmallow_ is going to help him??? really????? and keep in mind, when it comes to this dynamic, the nice friend can still come off as boundlessly kind, or soft, or gentle... that's fine. but the kind friend is most effective when they can display how hard it is to be kind, how much work it takes, and why it's still worth it to them anyway. the kind friend should be the strongest character you have, because they are the tsundere's foil. it's especially good when they know how hard it is to go through the shit that the tsundere went through, like, maybe they've gone through similar trauma themselves... but that shit didn't break the kind friend, and that's why the kind friend can help the tsundere find a better way forward. because they know. so like, if the kind friend is coming across as an actual pushover, then they aren't performing their function correctly. kindness takes hard work. it is the _LEAST_ easy path, and they keep choosing it, over and over again. always. and that's why the tsundere will eventually find good reason to believe in them. the one sided friendship is what you get, when you skim the surface level dynamic off the top, and leave all the depth behind. you end up with this wimpy little punching bag character who acts peppy but looks more like a bullying victim who's trying to tell you that their abusive partner isn't so bad... and the character they're paired with is just... an asshole. no twist, just a jerk. like, if the mean friend is just mean all the way to the core, and the nice friend just keeps making excuses for him... that's just an abusive pair dynamic, and it isn't fun to watch.
@Opalescent
@Opalescent 2 жыл бұрын
The way you wrote a whole ass well constructed essay about this...amazing. completely agree. And in my opinion the best version of this dynamic (which begins unhealthy but becomes more kind/genuine as the series goes on) is from Fruits Basket 2019. One of my favourite manga and animes that has a real understanding of complex relationships. There are several characters who are mean to others simply from fear of getting hurt, and THEY GROW WITH TIME.
@kamuyking551
@kamuyking551 2 жыл бұрын
@@Opalescent yessssss oh my god Fruits Basket was exactly what I was thinking of for a lot of this... I just didn't want to get into too many specifics with that, since I know that the original trope was more about friendships, and specifically shonen anime rivalry. this explanation works both ways though, platonic or romantic, and it's also no surprise that a lot of shonen rivals get shipped enemies-to-lovers style, because I think fans like to extrapolate this dynamic out of whatever's there. but yeah, just thinking about what happens between Tohru and Kyo... they are the prototype for what this dynamic looks like at it's best, in my mind. and Tohru is exactly who I was thinking of when I said that the "nice friend" is actually the strongest character, because they know that kindness is the hard path, and they are kind through effort, because they think it's worth it. Tohru can carry that series because she's so good at giving people something to believe in, and giving people chances before they've even done that for themselves. I was also thinking a bit of Mob, from Mob Psycho 100... especially in relation to Reigen. Mob is the type of character who is kind of naive and gullible, and Reigen feels like he has to teach and protect Mob, because he is an adult, and he assumes he knows better. but trusting other people is one of the things that Mob actually does get right. it can sometimes make things harder for him, like when he first met Teru... it's certainly not the easy path. but that same approach was what let him mend things with Ritsu, and the decision to trust Reigen, even when a more suspicious person wouldn't, is why those two have the strong friendship that they do. Reigen has to be skeptical because he doesn't want to be a sucker... it's important in his line of work. but this is the value that Mob brings to the table, even if he's still finding his own sense of balance between trust and suspicion. but yeah, this is just my pet favorite type of character(s) so I'm spouting off a little. ^^;
@decidueyezealot8611
@decidueyezealot8611 2 жыл бұрын
Explained why I find it hard to like izuku and bakugou, honestly seemed more like an obsession towards him than friendship :/
@yukira_karishima
@yukira_karishima 2 жыл бұрын
I think you honestly got it spot on. I've experienced a friendship that started one sided; a single conversation with them had me so enamored and interested, that I launched myself at them and got attached. They were annoyed yes, because I was way too clingy, but also in her own way no matter how cautious, made space for me, and let me in. Just a tiny little world that existed only to us. And over the years we gradually became more like the other that we reached a compromise that's still a bubble, but one we're comfortable leaving from time to time because it'll always be there. I don't remember everything I ever did to gain their trust but I have repeatedly expressed my care and affection for them, and now they're confident enough to return these silly, yet endearing compliments.
@wannabehistorian371
@wannabehistorian371 2 жыл бұрын
@@yukira_karishima wow, you lived through a real shounen friendship!
@BenA-uf5jx
@BenA-uf5jx 2 жыл бұрын
Part of zenitsu's character development is him hating himself for being a coward and overcoming it at certain points.
@flyingturret208thecannon5
@flyingturret208thecannon5 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting example of the ‘do not murder’ trope was the concept I saw recently where the main character had his own demons to face, a curse, if he killed anyone at all, then he’d nearly be unable to bring himself back from the programmed version of him with the sole goal of killing.
@benzelwasington4059
@benzelwasington4059 Жыл бұрын
Kind of overused as well
@flyingturret208thecannon5
@flyingturret208thecannon5 Жыл бұрын
@@benzelwasington4059 Well, I think every trope that could ever exist is overused. It's sort of the purpose.
@gojiralegendary4009
@gojiralegendary4009 Жыл бұрын
@@benzelwasington4059 well for me that trope is good. Example, Guts
@greenhat8978
@greenhat8978 2 жыл бұрын
My least favorite anime Trope is the "unearned power" if this fellow is going to have this really ridiculous power there better be a damn good reason he has it... I don't care if he's had to work for it for months or years or had to literally be a biological experiment. What does power start as, how he learned to control it, how he improved it, and how he made it his own power; not something given to him.... I want it to be something that makes sense other than a god/writer simply saying "you got this now use it"
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it matters if a character earned his power. Most superheroes did not need to work to earn their power. What matters is if they work to be worthy of their power.
@greenhat8978
@greenhat8978 2 жыл бұрын
@@schwarzerritter5724 true but they still have to train in order to learn how to use it I'm talking about one day he can't use the elements and the next day he can perfectly use lightning, wind, earth, water and fire as easily as blinking an eye
@realdragon
@realdragon 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about isekai that I would like to watch and thought about different ideas and one I like the most for now is that protagonist gets magic from game but was born in another world, can't even speak so he have to learn the magic. He have easier time learning the spells he knows but still have to learn them
@robbieaulia6462
@robbieaulia6462 2 жыл бұрын
@@greenhat8978 Saitama is a character build around the fact that being overpowered makes life so dull and empty.
@robbieaulia6462
@robbieaulia6462 2 жыл бұрын
@@greenhat8978 Mob is a character that is born overpowered but said power is what makes it hard for him to make new connections with new people. And damn is he one of the most well written shonen protagonist I've seen.
@LitereallyNobody7
@LitereallyNobody7 2 жыл бұрын
The food one i disagree. They arent eating for them gains, but to refuel cuz you get hungry after a hard day's work. They eat rice cuz rice goes well with food and tastes good. Do you really think Goku eats because muscle building, hell no. He likes to eat.
@m.i7211
@m.i7211 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I also think rice is culturally important to Japanese people, and this may be something foreign people won’t understand. Eating a ton of rice usually signifies to Japanese people that the character is young, healthy, athletic, and working hard. Parents will encourage their teen children to “have more helpings of rice or you won’t grow”. While professional athletes tend to have a strict nutritionally balanced diet, children who aspire to become pro athletes and engage in hard training at school usually eat copious amounts of rice because of the sheer amount of energy they use everyday through practice.
@unknowngod8221
@unknowngod8221 2 жыл бұрын
@@m.i7211 finally someone who get us asian we culturally love rice and seeing people painful not realize that it a culture thing just painful to see those comments
@lasttrinity0780
@lasttrinity0780 2 жыл бұрын
You guys used Ameri as a troupe, but the entire point of her character is always being independent. Heck, she is one of the best well written characters. She isn't only a love interest. She is a character of her own
@Ieatpaste23
@Ieatpaste23 2 жыл бұрын
The best harem anime is magikono. It's a harem told from the girls' point of view. Good dub.
@samykalacelle8143
@samykalacelle8143 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed with Ameri, shes still badass, she just also have emotions like everyone elses. Shes definitly a well written character, especially in the manga!
@trevorthompson6825
@trevorthompson6825 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think what the video is trying to say is that she spends too much of her time apart from Iruma getting worked up thinking about him, which is a valid criticism, but I think there's enough scenes of her both asserting her own ambitions and committing herself to pursuing them, AND allowing Iruma space to develop himself and pursue his own ambitions, so I think it still works well. I understand the criticism and agree it can be a bit over the top at times myself how often and highly she's thinking of him, but it still works.
@By-Haven
@By-Haven Жыл бұрын
I'd argue iruma is the love interest, cuz he is clueless af and she is the one crushing on him. But Ameri is most definitely still her badass self and only gets better in the manga.
@dmwanderer9454
@dmwanderer9454 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most annoying trope, all the characters are teenagers or prepubescent children for no reason at all. They always live by themselves and have their food/bills paid for, but still go through all the drama of grade school, but also they always get into adult situations
@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere
@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere Ай бұрын
That ain't a trope that's just my hero
@merlefi6162
@merlefi6162 2 жыл бұрын
I think the anime diet one is a cultural thing. Rice is a staple food in Japan. As someone living in a country with rice being a staple food too, I can see how eating lots of rice makes sense.
@bilihsartsiwoc
@bilihsartsiwoc 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen it much in anime but I have read the troupe in manga and novels, but a personal gripe I have is when a isekai story turns into a glorified Japanese cooking show
@ColonelCrisp
@ColonelCrisp 2 жыл бұрын
Japanese isekai MCs introduce the glory of white rice and soy sauce to backwards barbarians.
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 2 жыл бұрын
But those one off episodes are charming I take them over Ramsey cussing at me
@darth3911
@darth3911 2 жыл бұрын
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 Gets annoying after the twentieth episode of the same anime doing it.
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 2 жыл бұрын
@@darth3911 what anime you watching
@darth3911
@darth3911 2 жыл бұрын
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 I seen just about everything. I forget the name but I even seen an anime with the plot being a Japanese chef teaches fantasy creatures about Japanese food.
@Marandal
@Marandal 2 жыл бұрын
1.Harems - very good points, if they'd just give the characters more "Character", and an actual story, they'd be watchable. 2.Frenemies - i felt like that with Hootendow for the first week i knew him; but really grew to like him. 3.Sports Newbie - Trueee omg. you had me dying when reading out the typical plot lines HAhhahah! 🤣 4. Trope number 4 began with him saying "trope number 2" hahah! 😆 5. you were all like "but i uh... um i mean this character that i'm writing...." LOL! 7.Loud reaction characters kill me inside. i love comedy and humor, but these feel painful to watch. 8.Diet - The worlds strongest powerlifter, *Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson* , weights 452lbs, can pick up 970lb weights, and loves a big ass bowl of plain white rice. That was a good watch, thanks a bunch Opalescent
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 2 жыл бұрын
Air Gear is a Sports show that makes the tropes feel badass because the shows vibe then the show has murder an super powers kinda via their Rollerblades fuking love that show
@ghostspider2056
@ghostspider2056 2 жыл бұрын
I feel Highschool DxD easily breaks the first trope, MC has character; he’s kind of scummy in openly wanting a harem but has a kind heart of gold. Most of the girls don’t fall for him right away, instead he gains their affections by willing going through hell several times for their sakes.
@veen-a2092
@veen-a2092 2 жыл бұрын
white rice with curry/side dish is part of Asian heritage and culture our ancestors have eat white rice while working in the fields it is part of our culture and our cousine, they don't eat plain white rice, the bowl of rice is put seperately and the meat, vegetables, curry and spices are put in seperate plates for the family to share and eat it with rice So no they don't eat plain white rice the only show the part where they eat the rice cause people who makes anime are East Asians/Asians so for them showing the character eating the main dish is enough to let their viewers know that they indeed have a full course meal
@homesteadlegion4419
@homesteadlegion4419 2 жыл бұрын
@Veen-a They didnt eat white rice though, they had brown rice. White rice was reserved for the upper class and only got cheap enough for the poor masses in the 20th century.
@veen-a2092
@veen-a2092 2 жыл бұрын
@@homesteadlegion4419 Are you serious??? Brown rice???? Your telling an Asian person that white rice was only available in the 20th century to the masses??? Ahahahhahahhaha Wooow so my great grandparents eating white rice but they're time before 20th century are royalty? You idoit who gives you these false information and why are you so confident in these false acclaims? Brown rice is more expensive than white rice didn't you even know that? No you didn't the only way it will be brown is if they eat it with Soy sauce
@spoony8485
@spoony8485 2 жыл бұрын
Something that makes the lone wolf trope work in other situations is writing. Honestly, good writing can fix most problems associated with a show. Because even though a lot of people would blame the “predictability” of the plot or the “generic” characters, you can always find a show that has those exact same problems and turn them into interesting plots-lines or better characters. Of course, though, there are tropes that can’t be overcome through just good writing. Like the “girl hits boy because pervert” trope. Which for some reason has plagued anime for the past 20-25 years
@itsdantaylor
@itsdantaylor Жыл бұрын
I think one anime trope that is becoming more common now in shonen (and in retrospect has always been there, I just never got as sick of it as before) was "MC starts out as underdog loser, and then by the end of the series he's revealed to be the second coming of Christ and fighting god because it was his destiny/birthright". The most recent of this trend would be Naruto and My Hero Academia. Both start out as outcasts who have to work seemingly twice as hard to get even half the respect and recognition as their peers but turns out they were never underdogs to begin with. Naruto was the son of the 4th hokage, and a reincarnation of the son of the god of ninjutsu. Deku also suddenly becomes the Avatar and has access to powers of all the previous one for all's that not even All Might could access.
@doodleghost6225
@doodleghost6225 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I really don't mind harem plots as a concept but i wish just once we could see a harem plot where everyone is happy. Like, where every member is comfortable, secure, and willing to be involved in the harem. Maybe even polyamory instead of a pure harem. It would be so refreshing.
@hjkohler2966
@hjkohler2966 5 ай бұрын
100 girlfriends who really really really really really love you does this really well. Huge recommendation to watch
@henryfleischer404
@henryfleischer404 Ай бұрын
Closest thing I've seen to that is Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans. There's a harem made up entirely of secondary characters in that, and the love triangle the main character ends up in becomes a polyamorus trio. Although said trio is not particularly happy, due to external reasons.
@anonymousfilipino3232
@anonymousfilipino3232 2 жыл бұрын
i agreed with almost all of the points made in this video... all except for the last one. that one was basically just a kick to the balls to some of us asians who eat rice everday in all of our meals
@dr.murakisdollhouse723
@dr.murakisdollhouse723 2 жыл бұрын
not even full asian, just poor mixed Eastern European and I agree. what’s wrong with rice being a part of our staple diet??? It literally keeps us alive.
@goofymao1261
@goofymao1261 2 жыл бұрын
That was my first thought Cuz like... not everyone has the same diet as americans, wasn't that obvious? What I eat daily as a Latina is completely different than what you eat faily as an Asian and it's all completely different than what an European might eat daily It's not even a trope bro, it's just culture
@mikaasav1193
@mikaasav1193 2 жыл бұрын
@@goofymao1261 “not everyone has the same diet as americans” Wait, THAT is what he was talking about? I thought he was talking about something else. Like the part where they force themselves to eat, I thought that , Well, I forgot now. I don’t know how I misunderstood that one so much. 😂
@goofymao1261
@goofymao1261 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikaasav1193 Tbh that's how *I* interpreted it I could be wrong, but the way he complained about that being the diets anime characters tend to have, especially having pure white rice, just sounded like he was talking about them not eating the same stuff an american would eat on a daily basis There's also about the body building part which I could understand more where he was coming from... But still, it's not like it is wrong of even an annoyance that's hoe the charas feed themselves
@mikaasav1193
@mikaasav1193 2 жыл бұрын
@@goofymao1261 Okay
@nazarenoperezpelicon947
@nazarenoperezpelicon947 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I agree with point 6 until he brought Batman. He is the one who originated the trope itself, and it's not looked as something noble or some weak shit like that. Batman not killing people is a massive flaw from a traumatized character. And he and his loved ones had to pay dearly for that flaw. Hell, Red Hood, an ex Robin, personifies this. Also, Rice is the most protein dense of all carbs. So it's actually one of the better non keto sources of protein
@dompishere3014
@dompishere3014 2 жыл бұрын
1:00-1:02 killed me LMFAO. The harem trope was one of the (many) reasons I had a hard time with Sword Art Online. I just DID NOT understand what so many of those girls saw in Kirito. Like he was a kind hearted boy and all but bruh a whole harem??? #7 drives me crazy. I know Zenitsu is pretty well loved in the Demon Slayer fandom but he drives me up a wall. I think he's annoying. I liked him so much better in the entertainment district arc because he was quiet LMFAO
@Opalescent
@Opalescent 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Exactly !! I think that's what makes a lot of people hate Kirito even though as a character he's average. And same, Zenitsu being asleep the whole time was nice xD
@ZaxFSO8083
@ZaxFSO8083 2 жыл бұрын
What I find as the worst thing about the Kirito harem is (and correct me if I’m wrong because I actually haven’t been interested in sword art online since I finished season 1 of the anime) HE IS ALREADY COMMITTED TO ONE GIRL AND ALL THE OTHER GIRLS ARE ONLY TRYING THEIR HARDEST TO GET HIM TO CHEAT APPARENTLY. Funny how the only things I kind of like about sword art online is when Kirito is not (THANK GODS) the main character, for example that one spin-off about a Female Protagonist who worries about her being tall in real life and SAO Fatal Bullet (even though the game still found a way to shove Kirito down people’s throats by forcing you to have him in your team for a portion of the game) a video game where you actually get to create your own original character.
@johnlastname8752
@johnlastname8752 2 жыл бұрын
I fucking hated Zenitsu until the 2 last arcs of the manga when he shuts the fuck up and get some very needed character development.
@realdragon
@realdragon 2 жыл бұрын
I hate harems too, often women straight up say "You're strong, please fuck me"
@robbieaulia6462
@robbieaulia6462 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZaxFSO8083 I have good news for you, SAO progressive (the SAO reboot) has Kirito as simply just another protagonist and the main character title is given to Asuna and man does that make a world of difference in how the story plays out. And apparently Kirito has actual personality and not just some dude radiating "I'm an edgy edgelord" vibe.
@gwendolynsnyder463
@gwendolynsnyder463 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't finish the video yet as I'm writing it, but about the "I got healed through friendship" trope, I think the following joke should be added. MC: battered, on the floor BBEG: "You can't defeat me!" MC: remembers their friends and what they're fighting for "I will not give up! I'll defeat you with the power of friendship!" The healer that healed the MC: "You've GOT to be kidding me!"
@badger_laser6206
@badger_laser6206 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean Ameri becomes a mindless love drone after meeting Iruma??? She remains a badass throughout, an easy example being her basically single-handedly taking out one of the 3 monsters unleashed on Walter park. Opera helped but stood out of the way for most of the fight. Later on she even tells iruma that she isn’t going to wait for him at rank 6, and she’s currently actively training to get to rank 7, which is the minimum rank to become a teacher
@esrohm6460
@esrohm6460 2 жыл бұрын
it's so funny how all these "relatable" tropes make characters the least relatable thing in the universe. yea i sure can relate to a fricking pice of paper, but wait paper can at least be filled with something these characters are less than a piece of paper. say it together with me: characters with characteristics are relatable because you can imagine a person acting a certain way if you know what their personality is.
@spikeshepard1897
@spikeshepard1897 2 жыл бұрын
While I understand the hate for the harem trope due to the MC being unawere/dense, monmusu is the worst example of this, that guy does have feelings, however he is bound by law to not act
@zencyn4682
@zencyn4682 2 жыл бұрын
Plus the story eventually has that law lifted and he's trying to sort through his personal feelings and seriously thinks about how to go about having relationships with them.
@blueglasses2843
@blueglasses2843 2 жыл бұрын
White rice is a pretty common food in asia, we eat them everyday in Indonesia. So it's understandable for mangaka to depict characters eating white rice
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio Жыл бұрын
Yes but rice doesnt give protein. You need protein to train and gain muscle. That is what he is arguing which makes your comment irrelevant besides Indonesia exposure
@blueglasses2843
@blueglasses2843 Жыл бұрын
@@SemekiIzuioyea but rice gives carbohydrates, and carbohydrates is one of the sources of energy, and preserve muscle. besides, people normally don't eat rice on their own, ot's usually paired with other foods as well
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio Жыл бұрын
@@blueglasses2843 carbs turn to sugar and insulin is the last place you want as a source to be pulling energy from especially when protein exist. Many food have proteins, they could have depicted many asian foods that are rich in protien but instead go to the least food choice (rice) I went back and did a bit of research and my point still stands carbs and protein activate insulin but carbs are much weaker as a source
@naganut9718
@naganut9718 Жыл бұрын
​@@SemekiIzuio bro carbohydrates are one of the most important food source. Most asian eat them
@naganut9718
@naganut9718 Жыл бұрын
​​@@SemekiIzuioand rice isnt going to give fat as long its in moderation, and carb gives longer lasting energy over protein
@hydra_drizz2164
@hydra_drizz2164 2 жыл бұрын
A trope I hate is that doors apparently don't have locks
@RMT-M700
@RMT-M700 Жыл бұрын
Or the concept of knocking before you enter if you're aware the other person is inside.
@charu2774
@charu2774 2 жыл бұрын
Since so many are talking about the tsundere trope, my least favorite alongside this is the yandere one. Don't know what do people find so attractive in a character who needs psychological help. Then again it mainly has to do with looks at the end of the day. A not so good looking yandere character is villainised and hated by the fandom than a good looking one
@barongeoffrey75
@barongeoffrey75 2 жыл бұрын
I would sympathize more with characters like Bakugo or Sasuke if their dislike towards the hero was justified. The thing is often it's not. Naruto wasn't that much likable at the beginning but it's because he was hated for something that wasn't his fault. The same for Deku. Unless i missed something.
@chongwillson972
@chongwillson972 2 жыл бұрын
@Baron Geoffrey for bakugo its the fact he had a cool quirk growing up and therefore he gets a lot of praise for the just existing , so he see's anyone who challenges him as a threat to self worth , and deku is a strong person and is quirkless , which is a major threat to bakugo's self worth, especially the fact the deku dos not see bakugo as a major threat and just as a friend , and deku wants to be a hero as well. this peaks whenever bakugo gets kidnapped by the villains ,which caused all might his idol ,to retire , and the blames himself for all of it, because he was not strong enough to stop it. tdldr he see's deku as a major threat to his own worth.
@ーテイル
@ーテイル Жыл бұрын
Sasuke doesn't directly hate Naruto. Is more about him recognizing that he and Naruto could be good friends if it wasn't because of his burden to avenge his clan. In Sasuke's mind, mistreating and fighting people is his way to prove himself that he's strong enough to take on such burden, that's why he hates Naruto, because his sole existence makes him feel that he should give up and accept the kindness of others (aka, being weak). He's traumatized, that's the reasoning as to why he hates Naruto. Naruto, who's kinda good at reading people, immediately realized what Sasuke was thinking and tried to prove to him that opening to others and to friendship is not a bad thing and will never be. That you can be kind and strong. Of course, this is all subtext and I understand that at face value it does look like Sasuke is being like that for no reason.
@FabschOblivion669
@FabschOblivion669 2 жыл бұрын
Hard disagree with the Iruma-kun example in number 4, but okay.
@realdragon
@realdragon 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate overly humble strong characters. Often in isekai mc is overpowered but humbler than a peasant. For once I want to see how power corrupts protagonist. Just imagine suddenly having overwhelming power and almost nobody in the world can defeat you, you can basically can do whatever you want but no let's live simple life and tell people how killing ancient dragon in 2 seconds is not big deal
@robbieaulia6462
@robbieaulia6462 2 жыл бұрын
Than may I suggest you Mushoku Tensei, the mc was literally born with the magic talent to surpass even god if he does ever train that hard (which he doesn't cause what's the point). And several times he thinks too highly of himself and got punished appropriately for it. And at one point he even became super humble because he got dumped twice and basically have no pride in himself left. And the harem is actually very well written and not just throwing cardboard cutouts into one another.
@seyurin2881
@seyurin2881 2 жыл бұрын
I think you might like Overlord and saga of tanya the evil.
@realdragon
@realdragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@seyurin2881 Yep watched them. But I've seen a lot of isekai and this is the issue in a lot of them like writers were too lazy to write character so they slapped black haired guy who just is there
@Ieatpaste23
@Ieatpaste23 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the humble brag. Kill it with fire!
@kyleshoto
@kyleshoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbieaulia6462 But doesn’t that anime have major pedophilic and grooming issues? It may be well written like you said but nothing can excuse those behaviors.
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 2 жыл бұрын
There's this one Webtoon called "The Boxer." It is like reading a sports manga where you mainly follow who in *any other series* would've been the final antagonist as he crushes the careers of many other boxers as he quickly rises in the ranks. The way it treats every person as someone real with ambition, history, and with people they care for, only to be met with this monster prodigy that wordlessly puts an end to it all is fascinating.
@TheeLZ
@TheeLZ 2 жыл бұрын
Raku from Nisekoi was flawed and tried to actively pursue Onodera. He rejects the other girls out right as he only had two girls he had feelings for. What stopped him from down right pursuing a relationship at first was the false love concept keeping him tied to Chitoge. All in all, a great read and a great MC as Raku wasn't plain bread. Same with Fuutaro with Quintessential Quintuplets. He was smart and had a bit of a temper. He was socially inept as he dedicated all of his time to studying and just wanted to meet his "promised girl" except he forgot to still be social so he could interact with her. Something the girls help him with as he helps them so they all had a solid reason for liking him. I can not vouch for other harems.
@jenniferstewarts4851
@jenniferstewarts4851 2 жыл бұрын
Not killing trope. Yeah that one bus me, with 1 or 2 exceptions. First being, when the MC's issue with killing people is physically justified. Characters who pass out at the sight of blood, get violently sick, or such and they if they were to try and kill, would likely end up throwing up or passing out... While not anime, River in serenity is a pretty good example here. she's being shot at by guards, hiding, picks up the gun looking at it... "Don't look don't look don't look"... pokes around the courner eyes closed, using her precaug to know where to shoot, shoots them without seeing them get shot or bleed, then ducks back. There are lots of cases where characters act tough, will fight, but the moment they "have to kill" get really squimish because they don't know if they are ready to cross that line yet... they KNOW someday they may have to kill someone... but... And in many cases thats a good way to go. Not everyone CAN or is able to kill... even some real world soldiers in combat... train for months, but when it comes to actual combat, they freeze unable to pull the trigger and take a life.
@krismarshall3803
@krismarshall3803 2 жыл бұрын
I think....you're over thinking it. Like yeah, not everyone has the capability of killing. But that trope moreso leans on the characters who are preachy that its wrong to kill, always save your enemies, always try to rehabilitate them to good, etc, I cry for every enemy I kill. Tanjiro from demon slayer, Itadori from JJK (yeah I know there are a "FEW" moments he breaks this but so far in the anime...good lord XD Giving pity to every single human-ish curse). And when I say preaching its wrong to kill, I mean they're in a literal life-or-death situation and the person or thing they're against is so irredeemable but they still want to save them/ not kill them.
@sagemaster1357
@sagemaster1357 2 жыл бұрын
@@krismarshall3803 good points. But also, what are your thoughts on Naruto saving Obito Naruto wanted to save Obito because they are alike and shear the same dream of being hokage. But for Obito he has suffered lots of hardships and believes life's is a cruel place. He has also killed many people and caused the 9 tailes destruction onto the leav village but does that make him a villain and deserving of death?
@jinx5673
@jinx5673 2 жыл бұрын
@@krismarshall3803 it’s not really preachy lmao, it’s just not liking the concept of killing. If anything you wanting people to kill if needs be is a bit preachy, considering you most likely couldn’t actually kill someone on purpose, or let someone be killed if you could stop it. Not being able to kill/not wanting anyone to kill Is actually a pretty normal thing in humans.
@rashan141
@rashan141 2 жыл бұрын
@@sagemaster1357 I feel like I'm unsure what you're stance on the situation is but I'll give my two cents. Naruto literally told Obito to work to pay off his crimes and become a better person. Obito, by that point, is as deserving of death as, say, Hashirama was but his ideals simply included the entire world. Ninjas kill people, nearly every character in that arc has killed a couple people for the sake of their village. Do they deserve to die if, say, the family members of those dead individuals came for revenge? It's kinda a theme with the show. Revenge is caused by love being lost. How far in revenge is a character willing to go? What constitutes it? And what's the truth behind it? Obito was as deserving of death as every legend there, he was just fucked up enough by both his experiences _and_ Madara and Zetsu that he literally thought that he was doing the _right_ thing. I don't think he deserved anything but fucking therapy and some jail time while doing community service.
@tatermister5045
@tatermister5045 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite "Thou shalt not kill" manga is Trigun. Vash and the people around him suffer, but he still refuses to kill for personal reasons.
@MordredPendragon7997
@MordredPendragon7997 2 жыл бұрын
My personal least favorite anime trope is the perversion played for laughs. At one point I started watching Seven Deadly Sins, but I couldn’t even get through the first episode because Meliodas’ perversion really grated on my nerves.
@worstcompanyrequiem7813
@worstcompanyrequiem7813 2 жыл бұрын
Man. How does Ban carrying the franchise without being immortal anymore? His back must be hurting a lot.
@DemiCape
@DemiCape 2 жыл бұрын
Atleast in seven deadly sins, that scene just lasts for a couple seconds and then they move on to the plot. Other animes on other hand has the main protaganist go to the wrong place, bump into the female character and they somehow land in the most wierd way possible, that lasts for entire minutes… Then the female character calls main character pervert for no reason and slaps him when both the main character and female character could atleast try to get up and not waste so much time on the story… There are other examples, but atleast seven deadly sins just has short scenes and a pig that complains about it and those scenes also become more rare as the series moves on. My point is, in seven deadly sins those scenes are very quick and then they move on to the plot, other animes has everything drag out so long to the point where it ruins the enjoyment.
@ehanrijanto
@ehanrijanto 2 жыл бұрын
Well to be perfectly fair, Ameri from WTDS Iruma-kun has a strong character development (as with all other character in the series) throughout the series. Imo in this case actually it's a good characterization because it shows that Ameri is still a teenage girl in essence and she's learning on how to balance her responsibilities and ambition with her actual self
@MakhaiX377
@MakhaiX377 2 жыл бұрын
A troupe I hate, when a main protagonist is fighting another protagonist for a MISUNDERSTANDING, that could very easily be cleared up! Or when the story goes in a direction that could've been prevented by common sense. People argue: "well then we'd have no story or plot, like bro, if common sense destroys your entire story then IT WASN'T GOOD ANYWAY
@adakaitekota316
@adakaitekota316 2 жыл бұрын
I think a good example of a ‘one-sided friendship/frenemies’ is Yugi and Kaiba from Yugioh. Yugi doesn’t try to be Kaiba’s friend, but he acknowledges him when he’s there, and because of Kaiba’s obsession, he is always around. They come to this compromise when they fight a common enemy, and always leave as ‘not-friends’. I think even still, they done consider each other as friends. More like allies, for when the going gets tough and they trust each other enough to work together.
@adakaitekota316
@adakaitekota316 2 жыл бұрын
*Don’t consider
@jm7781
@jm7781 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, love the criticisms, they are about real writing problems and lack of originality. You won my like and subscribe.
@Opalescent
@Opalescent 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :D
@ntm4
@ntm4 2 жыл бұрын
The whole "the main character must be an audience self-insert" thing is the most annoying to me. I guess I just don't enjoy media the same as a lot of other people? I can think how cool it would be to be in a fictional universe without imagining being the main character specifically. And I would be much more invested in the story of that fictional universe if the main character I'm watching in that universe was an interesting, nuanced, well-developed person instead of a cookie cutout of a young Japanese man with all the details sanded off.
@trevorthompson6825
@trevorthompson6825 2 жыл бұрын
100% this. This is the exact problem with most anime MCs (isekai in particular) these days. Maybe I'm wrong too, but frankly I think most in the japanese entertainment industry (encompassing LNs and WNs, manga, and anime) are horribly mistaken on what the audience wants. Maybe they feel bland MCs are more accessible somehow to a wider audience? Idk, but im confident that we're not alone but are rather part of the vast majority of the anime market that prefers characters with personalities. Part of it's probably writer laziness too, but still. For myself and I suspect most of us, it's more relatable to see a character with a personality that may even drastically differ from our own than a cardboard cutout of indecision who makes no choices that determine the flow of the plot at all. An audience can INTERACT with an MC with a personality! I can compare and contrast their thinking and what decisions they make with my own! I can put myself in their shoes to understand how their circumstances make them feel! I can praise or criticize them, evaluate them as a person, and reflect on how I measure up as a person for better or worse against them! They're full of life and provide a fun experience to watch and think about! A bland MC, on the other hand, is a dull and lifeless tool around which the story flows. They're annoying because they bring no value to the story. Give me human MCs, then give me uniqueness and interesting perspectives on top of that. That's what MCs should be.
@GD-xk8cb
@GD-xk8cb Жыл бұрын
Its annoying that people say as an argument "he's like that because he needs to be relatable for the audience, therefore its genius" well here are some news, an mc doesnt have to be relatable for the audience, you can make a protagonist that don't have anything similar to the average citizen to make him interesting or make THE audience be invested in the protagonist, a good example would be Walter White or Arthur Morgan, they are not relatable yet they're way better characters than most of anime's mcs, it doesnt even have to look young to be an interesting looking character , jeez.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 Жыл бұрын
It is, however, much harder to write a Walter White than a Bella Swan. Also worth noting that the target audience differs. The animes that do this type of thing are what I categorize as escapist drivel. And it isn't limited to anime either. Most YA novels make teenagers critical to the saving of the world, with very little adult supervision. That includes Harry Potter, a jock who is given all sorts of special privileges. Your boudice ripper romance story will have a female lead that has very modern values for the time the story is set in. Most fantasy novels following the "hero's journey" arc have the main character being a bit of an outsider, in part because that makes it easier to slip in exposition, but also because that's more of their target demographic. Realistically, it'd be some noble's son raised with various bits of training and connections needed to actually pull such a thing off. And the same type of stories will also be less complex in other ways. Like the Drizzt DnD series has the best swordsman, the best assassin, the strongest barbarian, the dwarfiest dwarf, a stereotypical thieving halfling, and the token female character even gets to become a super archer thanks to a magical bow. So, yeah, most escapist stuff is not complex or nuanced. Doesn't mean it cannot be enjoyed though, if you are in the mood or it is just your thing. Just don't go thinking that anything where every female character's personality pretty much consists of simping for the MC is quality, even if you enjoy it ;)
@katama4843
@katama4843 2 жыл бұрын
An amine that treats the MC like shit, like absolut garabage but the MC is still the kindhearted and just nicest person ever and just accepts him being treated like trash
@worstcompanyrequiem7813
@worstcompanyrequiem7813 2 жыл бұрын
After gain super powers the first thing that any kid or teenager would do is beat the living shit out of the bullies and teach them to respect people, cause someday they can have the power to ruin your life.
@artofthepossible7329
@artofthepossible7329 2 жыл бұрын
For those that enjoy such things: my recommendations are Katekyo Hitman Reborn and A Certain Magical Index.
@s0fi4_22
@s0fi4_22 5 ай бұрын
9:00 when putted in context, the "I don't kill bc of my morals" trope works pretty well, take aang's final battle w Ozai as an example, he didn't kill him not only bc of his own principles but also bc that's-his culture and knowledge the air nomads passed to him- is literally the ONLY living remain of the air nation, killing Ozai would mean the fire kingdom won by destroying the customs of an entire civilization. Plus is not like he was simply not punished for everything he did like the joker
@TooEpik
@TooEpik Жыл бұрын
So I watched this video because I'm currently writing a manga style comic about an Oni who is desperate for vengeance, but struggles to maintain his code of honor. I guess he could be classified as the "badass loner" trope, but it's not really something I thought about or even a focus if that makes sense. He's only a "loner" cause he lost his team and feels guilty for being a terrible leader that led them to their deaths, this makes him a bit scared to form a new team despite knowing he might have to some day. And I guess he fits the "badass" description of that trope because he's a demon swordsman who wields a legendary katana. There is no focus on him being right or wrong in the story, in many cases he might even be wrong, but chooses the "incorrect" option in order to not abandon his honor. In that sense, there will be a lot of nuance to whether or not he should even maintain his code of honor which is what I'm aiming for, and it will definitely be a struggle to maintain it during his quest for vengeance. So with all of this in mind, should I still go for something other than this "badass loner" classification?
@Boxso
@Boxso 8 ай бұрын
Wow bro, sounds cool where can I support your comic?
@hasseo195
@hasseo195 2 жыл бұрын
The trope i hate the most (in nearly all stories) is, when the mc's have to lost there powers at the end of the story. Where is there reward, to finish the problem, when they have to become a normalo again at the end and stand there, where they was at the beginning of the story. First, power ranger. Where most of them lost there power at the end of each season. Than digimon, where the kids always lose there digimons at the end (except of 02, what is the reason, why i love the ending of 02 the most). Or K project and Magi. It exist only a few cases, where i am ok with it, when a story ends with the result, that the chara lose there power. But only, when they are suffering, because of the power. Or gain a other, more important thing in exchange.
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 2 жыл бұрын
FMA be like
@hasseo195
@hasseo195 2 жыл бұрын
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 Yes. As a example. He build up his skills in alchemy over the years. Only, to lose it all at the end. It would be a example, where it is ok, because his brother is coming back. As his limps. But when i saw it in the movie right, did he even has to travel to a other World for it. What is a to big punishment
@senritsujumpsuit6021
@senritsujumpsuit6021 2 жыл бұрын
@@hasseo195 The first series has its ups and downs but its interesting and that movie was a awkward mixed bag hehe
@justanawkwardnerd
@justanawkwardnerd 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, part of the point of Digimon is that their world is meant to be somewhat separate. Them mixing is not something that is likely to happen, or to be a good thing when it does. I wish there were more creative ways to get around that and make it so it can be, but that was very much the point of the first few seasons of Digimon. It was never _meant_ to be permanent. There are new seasons of Digimon that may have done it differently, but I haven't watched them, so I wouldn't know.
@pikapika848
@pikapika848 2 жыл бұрын
I think I have to argue in the case for Magi, but I don't really remember the series. So all I can say about the MCs losing their power is due to the fact that the (old world?) system has changed, to the point where leaders of that world are working very hard to redefine their lands and laws. Magic still exists (i think there's new research going on for it?) and though djinn equip is gone, im sure alibaba and morg (happily married with a trading company! can't forget that) can still use magic tools 🤔 (double checking the final chapter now to see what else is there, feel kinda embarrassed lol) It looks like Aladdin, Alibaba, and Morgiana are exploring the new world... I feel like that may be a reward in of itself! They fought hard for this new world, now they'll be able to enjoy their adventures in it without any sort of big bad to disturb them!
@jenniferstewarts4851
@jenniferstewarts4851 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Nalfumi is a perfect example. People joke about him having not just a Harem BUT a Loli fan. But nope, He viewed Raf as his daughter... and filo at first as a pet, through she kinda got upgraded to daughter, though she's still expected to earn her keep, and of course melty wants to be doted on but isn't "interested" in him that way... Course then there's slime... Where he's somewhat perverted but, he ends up being treated as a "girl" by half the group at times... or worse a pet. LOL. Honestly when even the guys play cool, and rimaru accidentally finds himself swooning over them... you know he's got problems. LOL. so some harem stores do break the trope. "He's my husband," "He's my boyfriend," "He's my master who i'm to serve body and soul."... "ARGH, you make this sound so bad. How did i get into this situation!?!!?" Now yep there are a few which do it very badly...and i hate those too... zero personality characters i generally hate.
@worstcompanyrequiem7813
@worstcompanyrequiem7813 2 жыл бұрын
Even the loner thing with Naofumi is well writen. Who can you trust in someone when the first people that you give your trust conspired against you? In other perspective the Shield of Fury mess up with his mind, if you watch the mangá there is a lot of heroes having problems with their weapons turning them into Overpowered psychos but overcomming their curse series to become better persons.
@jenniferstewarts4851
@jenniferstewarts4851 2 жыл бұрын
@@worstcompanyrequiem7813 I know, but i was keeping it spoiler free :) add to that sometimes embarrassing the tropes i mean going all out ham heavy with them to the point of being meta can be fun to. When the "hero" smacks down the villian and laughs, "You don't get it do you, I'm the MC!" I have a running joke that i'm going to do an Isekai fan fic, with an OP main character... Mary Sue and the McGuffin of power. In the first fight she oneshots a villain... blinks, "Umm ok, just call me Mary Sue..." Towns folk here that... decide its her name. She finds out she's supposed to defeat monsters and protect an area... "Oh great, how often does this happen?" "Once a week, problems like this usually last about 22 minutes.. 44 minutes if its a special."
@worstcompanyrequiem7813
@worstcompanyrequiem7813 2 жыл бұрын
@@jenniferstewarts4851 lol. I'm writting a fanfic Isekai with a friend and we're trying to do a Souls-like world. It's about two brothers and one of them have Borderline Personality Disorder (Just like Anakin, Jinx and Handsome Jack), but they both are summoned in different regions. The older brother had picked the easy one, where there is civilization and people treats him nice but the other is just locked in a land of madness and ashes that every citizen is going crazy because of the curse that they was summoned to stop by sealing it. So basically one is living in a world that wasn't corrupted, but the unstabble one is suffering in the wild cursed world believing that if he turns powerful he can save his brother, who he believe that he owns his life for everything that he have done for him. So one is going to end up mad and more powerful than another.
@jenniferstewarts4851
@jenniferstewarts4851 2 жыл бұрын
@@worstcompanyrequiem7813 "Ok nope, not dealing with a weekly problem to solve." "Whatcha gonna do Mary?" "Create a magical item for some hero, so they can fight most of these monsters on their own. i'll only need to show up for the 2 parter epsidoes. I just need... something... some McGuffin of power."
@arianrenguko9231
@arianrenguko9231 2 жыл бұрын
when did rimuru ever been treated as a pet? 🤣 yeah some people find his face beautiful & attractive but no one ever treated him as a pet, what slime anime did you watched? 🤣
@ejam4345
@ejam4345 2 жыл бұрын
My least favorite anime trope is the "guy who's so avarage it's painful" They're *always* just there to balance out the wackier characters and it's always done awfully. You see it everywhere, From Tadano Hitohito (his full name literally translates to "just your avarage guy" to Yuuta Togashi to even Bell Cranel just to name a few god forbid *every single isekai MC*. Look at Kazuma (konosuba) as the breath of fresh air as the "just your avarage guy" done right. He balances out the other characters while also being pretty wacky himself. He has his own character traits other than "make this guy as avarage as you possibly can, we don't want to make a *gasp* *intresting character*" Another example of avarage done well is Kobayashi from Dragon Maid. She's pretty avarage, office job, single, etc. but the traits that she does have make her interesting. She's a very hard worker, down to earth, and *ahem* rather fond of maids (which in turn removes her groudedness every time they're brought up) and she's loud and rash whenever she drinks. In turn, we also see her change through the series, from being lonely and unnaceppting of Tohru, she warms up to them as time goes on. Anyways, sorry for ranting, I just really hate that type. I'm also no english major so if it was poorly presented I'm sorry
@evewhoo
@evewhoo 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I started reading this and instantly thought Tadano because I’ve been reading/watching Komi to fill time. I don’t necessarily hate it to the ground. What I really hated about that show more than anything is how disgusting the other characters treat Komi. I think that kinda stole any annoyance I had for the most average guy ending up as her love interest. Leave the poor girl alone? Tadano’s approach is not forceful or anything and that’s how even an average guy like him can win her over. Everyone else just assumes what they think she wants without actually making sure that’s what she wants. Esp in the beginning before she started using her notebook as a communication device. Personally it made me really like the more normal/average characters just because of that. Not to disagree with you, of course. Tadano’s character type also gets annoying when it comes to actually dating someone…. Though I probably wouldn’t be much better if I dated someone either lol
@worstcompanyrequiem7813
@worstcompanyrequiem7813 2 жыл бұрын
@@evewhoo To be fair against Komi's problem a friendly and calm approach like Tadano's way to interact with people (shy and insecure) can be really helpful. Sometimes extravert people can be scary to someone with social anxiety they make you feel nervous.
@KraNisOG
@KraNisOG 10 ай бұрын
I think the harem trope in Quintessential Quintupletse is fine, bro does have a personality, does make a choice, and it makes sense because he really is the only guy that they spend time with. What I really wish they did more was showcase the harems of those in power. As in those in Sassanid Iran/Persia for example, or almost any of the Empire's of China, or in the sterotypical fantasy anime with the stereotypical Roman Empire you could showcase a bad/incompetent emperor (who, by the way, wouldn't tax subjects into oblivion. most incompetent emperors die very quickly, or are branded incompetent becaus of how they treated the senate, only a hand full would live on long enough like Honorivs for example) by giving him a harem of either his sisters, or of wives of senators, a morally corrupt, easy to despise bad guy who abuses his wealth, power, and status to take from those around him, while also bribing the populace with games, free money, and bribing the army with the same thing. My least favorite trope, personally, is just that. A bad portrayl of a Roman Empire or Roman-like soceity in fantasy worlds, which isn't exslusive to just anime, people just tend to make the empire seem weak, easily dealt witih, or rule through fear. That's the exact opposite of how the Roman Empire formed, their armies should be meanicing and constantly outnumbered yet always victorious, the people on the border might not like the empire, but the reason they don't cross is because the empire provides more benefits than it does being outside of it, and when it does, entire proviences leave the empire and cause a civil war (which, fun fact, the Romans made the term Civil War to describe war as being between Romans and Romans), and sometimes entire regions. I'd like to see more empires as being juggernauts that usually beat the protagonists ass, or crush rebellions with brutal ease. Rome also didn't have censorship in the traditional sense, so seeing the "Don't let the emperor hear you say that" only applies to those with power, and NOT citizens. In fact, Roman Emperor Hadrian stopped his commute in order to talk with a woman because she said "If you cannot make time for your subjects, then you should lay down the purple." to which he stopped and had a conversation with her. Though, criticism of the empire and emperor heaviliy depended on your station, and class, slaves couldn't say anything bad about the emperor for example, punishable by death and what not.
@kuteken6312
@kuteken6312 Жыл бұрын
"Why not make Him absolute chad, and making Him scumbag taking advantage of how lucky He is in the romance department".......that's...that's called hentai....
@Chloe4656.
@Chloe4656. 8 ай бұрын
Exactly don't understand what was trying to get out of that.
@Commenter839
@Commenter839 Ай бұрын
School Days basically did that, though the issue with that show is that most of the girls were equally unlikable
@Oxygen1004
@Oxygen1004 Ай бұрын
Relationships aren't only sex though so I don't get your point. Like if you go the douche route, he could constantly go on dates for free food and hop between their places so he doesn't have to pay rent or have him be a chad who genuinely cares for each person and always tries to make time for each of them.
@oscar95237
@oscar95237 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that hates the trope of having "villains" do the overexagerated evil faces/expressions (licking lips the most hated for me), it's completely overused, and I hate it the most when it's on a character presentation on a "suspense" genre when you are trying to figure out if he is bad or not, and then he just does the face, and it's like the show just saying "you're too stupid too think on your own, let me give it clear" and sometimes they weren't bad at the end so they were using the trope to cheaply lie to your face, btw this trope is kinda ok in kid shows (they need more dark/white clear stories)
@Neion8
@Neion8 2 жыл бұрын
100% bro, the other one that annoys me is the whole licking their weapon thing, like if you're gonna be that obvious you might as well tell instead of show - it's way better to have normal looking villains do horrendous shit both for adults and kids as oftentimes the greatest dangers in life greet you with a polite smile, so it's not just less cringy it's also a better life lesson.
@daraayufebrilianty8060
@daraayufebrilianty8060 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda prefer when the villain bites his/her tongue than licking lips 😀 I know I'm creepy but I'm too bored with that licking lips-
@xSkysilver
@xSkysilver 2 жыл бұрын
The only character who is evil and does pull this off, at least to me is DIO. That man is both a menace and the cool kid in your class
@nou2097
@nou2097 2 жыл бұрын
@@xSkysilver I think it also works on Doflamingo as he is most certainly mentally unstable. His actions speak louder than his facial expressions and him biting his tongue occasionally.
@ladyoblivious
@ladyoblivious 2 жыл бұрын
Got to say, 4 really is a pet-peeve for me. With the worst offenders being reverse harems honestly. I mean, okay if he's gonna fall for the heroine at least make it believable as to why. The same with those anime where the heroine is not really impressive but somehow she ends up living with the guy she's been one-sidedly in love with and literally breaks him down through sheer will-power to fall in love with her, and like the guy clearly had no interest in her at all. Saddening.
@RADLEA
@RADLEA 2 жыл бұрын
I may be bias, but at number 4. I really don't think that Iruma-kun is like that. If you read the manga, there's actually quite a bit more focus on the love interests later on in the manga. I personally think that Iruma-kun provides a good balance of romance, action, comedy, slice of life, and drama thrown in there.
@Opalescent
@Opalescent 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah for sure, I love Iruma-kun!! Such a fun shounen
@reneewilliams3339
@reneewilliams3339 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Ameri is a very well written female lead. Even with a love interest, she still has her priorities, goals and ambitions. I feel like the manga depicts this a lot better than the anime. I may be biased though
@vintagegamer695
@vintagegamer695 Жыл бұрын
When you did the voices for the Harem females expressing their desire for the bland male lead, you made them sound like old ladies, and that was pretty funny.
@familiebutterfly7661
@familiebutterfly7661 2 жыл бұрын
Another trope that I hate is: A female protagonist is meeting the first love interest and he will become the boyfriend/lover/husband of her in almost all cases. So from the very beginning even if the 2nd and 3rd love interest show up, it's clear the 1st will win her heart. He gets the most screen time and a lot of times, the FL had a crush on him from the very first second. Story's that are able to make it really hard to see who will end up with the FL and give every love interest the same chances are rare, but sooooo good and it's sad that there are so few. I have seen 2nd love interests who are much more favoured to be with the FL, by some fandoms and have a far better dynamic with the FL than the 1st love interest who ends up with her. And this trope just destroys such wonderful opportunitys, I have seen a second love interest who was the villain who let the FL intentionally win so that she doesn't get hurt too much and even almost died, saving the FL and the dynamic between them was so beautiful. At first he regarded her as enemy and not immediately, but slowly and steadily fell for her, at some point she even saw the good in him, saw him as a friend and tried to persuade him to change his goals (He couldn't abondoned his goals but he wavered and was touched and even suggested to his friends that they should maybe change their way of achieving their goal). But she ended up with the 1st love interest who she had a crush on since long ago, who was actually not human but some kind of Prince or something who was sometimes controlled by the end boss villain and I hated seeing the 2nd love interest being turned down. Maybe someone recognises the anime I'm talking about. I watched it a long time ago and am still so upset about it. And I hate the trope of the ML or FL having blond hair and blue eyes.
@yunfeikwon
@yunfeikwon 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like Philiarose manhwa😂
@lequangthinh3266
@lequangthinh3266 2 жыл бұрын
Nope for 8. We, asians knew it. But sometimes we eat white rice not for energy, we just enjoying it. And yes, as same for apple we peel it became we enjoy the taste of softness. If we need vitamins we would just go for the juice.
@daraayufebrilianty8060
@daraayufebrilianty8060 2 жыл бұрын
We always enjoy it Well, sometimes I only enjoy rice that are soft-
@CalmClamFam
@CalmClamFam Жыл бұрын
Sumo wrestlers also eat rice in their diet as well and they are MASSIVE. Rice is just a staple of a Japanese diet
@xeres6232
@xeres6232 Жыл бұрын
@@CalmClamFam Sumon wrestlers are so impressive, their fat is mostly healthy fat and their hearts are amazingly healthy. That training must be so intensive.
@gojiralegendary4009
@gojiralegendary4009 Жыл бұрын
@@xeres6232 the one that make this vid must be not doing search about asian people
@jaytayfox5738
@jaytayfox5738 2 жыл бұрын
One anime trope that I absolutely despise and one that really disgust me and offended me is incest! In most anime they have the sister character be in love with their brother character in ways that just aren't right. They will go as far as stalk them and try to literally bang them! Their own brother!! Heck the same thing can be said about how brothers do it as well as mothers, or fathers, heck even grandparents! They do this in almost any anime that involves siblings. Mostly harem! Needless to say, I don't find it fun to watch. I find it disgusting! 🤮 While it is true that in real life siblings don't get along, it's not like their worst enemies or mortal Kombat fighters. They actually do get along and settles things without any sort of violence or abuse. Siblings do love and care for each other, they protect each other, they have each other's backs, they help each other with their problems, they do fun activities together! But for the love of God, they will not go as far as trying to bone each other. That's not how it works. Now I've seen anime where a relationship between siblings is actually normal and really cute. But I do wish they focus more on developing that kind of relationship. As a brother of two sisters that I really care about and enjoy spending time with, I really don't how incest could work. Especially when it goes way too far to a point where it's just unsalvageable. To anyone who gets this comment remember to be happy with what you got. With hard work, positivity, and never giving up, your life will get better. Even if you face problems along the way that can't easily be solved, at least try your best to overcome it and don't let it get the best you. Even if you fail, the important thing is you tried and you can always try again the chance you get. And remember to always love and care for your family. Even if they aren't perfect and have their flaws, still love and appreciate them and give them a helping hand. Thank you and have a nice day! 😁👍
@Neion8
@Neion8 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we need more wholesome sibling relationships, not creepy ones. Not saying all sibling relationships have to be wholesome but I'd certainly prefer that trope to be the dominant one over incest.
@worstcompanyrequiem7813
@worstcompanyrequiem7813 2 жыл бұрын
@@Neion8 Would be cool if there was more complex relationships like Jinx and Vi.
@xcd701
@xcd701 2 жыл бұрын
Oh how can i forget the Most annoying trope of them all, either the most beautiful girl in class talks to the mc and the whole class gets hostile towards him as if she's the only girl in class or the Deification a female character to the point of being annoying and toxic and usually at the cost of the MC's well being.
@yukhym12
@yukhym12 Жыл бұрын
What I absolutely hate in anime is the double standard of violence: female who hit a male? Comedy gold. Male who do the same? Yeah. Aho girl is the rare anime where the female is perverted and the boy hit her. (My first anime with this was Ranma 1/2 and I still hate Akane to this day because of it.) Great video!
@rcg38
@rcg38 Жыл бұрын
The reason I love the Monogatari series despite the fanservice and harem aspects, is how original and intersting the mc and all of the girls are and how they interact with each other and are fleshed out with their individual struggles
@thegamerfe8751
@thegamerfe8751 2 жыл бұрын
It's really good seeing animes like Overlord, Re:Zero and Konosuba (ironically all isekai anime) not suffer from any of the known tropes and actually stand out from the rest in a good way.
@George_Gogo01
@George_Gogo01 2 жыл бұрын
uhm...As much as i like albedo,her whole personality is abouth Ainz and nothing else.I be curious to see one thing she does that doesnt have anything to do with him directly or indirectly.
@artofthepossible7329
@artofthepossible7329 2 жыл бұрын
@@George_Gogo01 This is justified because Ainz changed Albedo's character file to include her being obsessively in love with him as a joke, whilst he was waiting for the server to shut down. Once they got isekai'd, this character change became permanent and Ainz wishes it wasn't so.
@George_Gogo01
@George_Gogo01 2 жыл бұрын
@@artofthepossible7329 yes and?He basicaly made her into a mostly boring character whose whole world revolve around ainz.Also,should i remind you she would be just as bad if he didnt mess with he file?If i recall right,she was literaly supposed to act like a slut originaly.
@pikminman13
@pikminman13 2 жыл бұрын
I feel overreaction can be funny but it has to be a small part of the character rather than a main part. Like Ed when you call him short. It’s usually done in a scene that isn’t too serious and giving him a trivial insecurity can make him feel a bit better as long as it’s not driven into the ground. Especially when it’s played in contrast to Al, who is normally very quiet to begin with. Though I agree that loud does not magically equal funny. If you want a show that plays up the reaction without usually doing it to the volume Dr. Stone is great at it. And on the rare occasion a character is yelling it is funny.
@fraktaalimuoto
@fraktaalimuoto 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a list like this that has a actually real points instead of "fanservice is bad" grade criticism.
@zeakthetinysoviet3702
@zeakthetinysoviet3702 Жыл бұрын
This is actually very helpful advice on what to do and what not do when writing a story. Thanks!
@gun3881
@gun3881 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I agree that the "Developing into a love interest" troupe sucks, I don't believe that Welcome to demon school Iruma kun is a good example, the girls do like Iruma but the only one that is clear to actually like him in a romantic and not friendship way is Ameri, who still keeps her personality after meeting him, the only reason she fell in love with him was by seeing his passion and ambitions and she wished to suport him, not by giving him preferal treatment, but by leading the way and letting him learn and fight as she always had, for her ambitions and dreams are the most important thing and thru the whole series she kept her very serious and strong personality while still showing her more "girly" side when she blushes and stuff, same with iruma's best friend, Clara who was always cheerful even before meeting him, she sticks to his side a lot because he was the one that taught her to live on her own terms and not to get manipulated into giving people what they want just so she gets a playmate, he makes her happy and plays with her unconditionally, same case with Asmodeous who gets annoyed at her, he still cares for her and that's why she treats him just like he treats iruma. This happens with all the girls all having their different stories affected by Iruma but never losing their goal and personality and pursuing their dream wether iruma likes it or not. It's a big pharagraph for just 1 argument but I really like the series and their focus not only on the protagonist, but also on the side characters and actually giving girls dreams and personalities that aren't meant to make the protagonist shine brighter, but to make him learn from their strenght, definitely an anime worth watching, and the manga is even better, plot wise it's a 10/10.
@zinnia-
@zinnia- 2 жыл бұрын
my least favorite trope are either “love triangles” or “miscommunication” which both unfortunately tend to go hand in hand. Animes that build up to 2 characters being together only to throw a second person in out of nowhere for no reason. typically in the second season (if it’s lucky enough to get one) ao haru ride (manga) and kimi ni todoki are two series’ that immediately come to mind i ended up not finishing kimi ni todoki bc of it
@YujiUedaFan
@YujiUedaFan Жыл бұрын
Ranma is AWFUL for this, because they keep on adding more and more randos!
@hypothalapotamus5293
@hypothalapotamus5293 Жыл бұрын
​@@YujiUedaFan Genma, the engagement fraud Panda, strikes again.
@reaps2661
@reaps2661 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to watch an anime with a protag like tengen honestly tired of "relatable" self insert protags, i want an interesting story god dammit
@kley281
@kley281 2 жыл бұрын
In most part of Asia, Rice is the most common daily food one can consume, its a cultural thing. Most men would rather eat 5 bowls of rice with one piece of chicken breast than eat tons of hamburgers. We pair rice with mostly any food we like, pasta/noodles with rice is normal, bread with rice in the morning is common, etc. So eating lots of rice in a diet show is not that very questionable for us, but yes it's not that recommended when you are on diet.
@henryfleischer404
@henryfleischer404 Ай бұрын
I never would have expected bread with rice, that's interesting. What sort of bread is used for that?
@thebadger622
@thebadger622 Жыл бұрын
I think the only way a Harem could work (In my opinion) is: (1: The MC chooses the FMC, but takes the other girls in as Concubines (2: The MC and FMC get together, yet the FMC say's the Harem route is allowed/Initiates the Harem (3: The MC and FMC start dating, but the Harem mostly consists of the Girls dating the MC and each other *(So, mostly a Poly Relationship)* These are the only plausible solutions i have to a Harem *(I bring this up because i plan on making 3 different Stories, with the Mc's having a Poly Relationship and i don't wanna mess it up, hell, my focus is more on the Character Development then the Harem part)*
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