Transformers the Movie : When Boys Became Men

[@gusgrafos373]

I love that this is longer than the movie

[@nightmare5004]

Fr 😭😭

[@MusicoftheDamned]

Ha. I still haven't watched this movie--the 1986 one--yet unfortunately, but that was my second reaction: "Wait. Isn't this longer than the movie itself?" Not that I'm complaining.

[@vernonator1935]

thought it might be a commentary track

[@Pixax-q6b]

You beat me to it.

[@XmanXX181]

Best part of my day alresdy

[@mikeyahl7363]

*The Transformers Movie* Act 1: Introduces children to cosmic horror Act 2: All your heroes are dead Act 3: We're just a bunch'o silly little guys ;)

[@stellviahohenheim]

Michael bay ruined transformers for me, him and that bud lite influencer

[@hecksters423]

Act 4: *YOU'VE GOT THE TOUCH! YOU'VE GOT THE POWER!!! YEAH!*

[@MrCat-zz5eo]

Primus bless the Junkions, they were the OG meme-spouting pop-culture junkies before modern memers. Wish we'd get a show around them with ol' Weird Al reprising his role as Animated Wreck-Gar.

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

@@stellviahohenheim who in their sane mind gives a sh*t about bud lite influencer?????

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

​@@stellviahohenheimHow did Shane Gillis ruin Transformers for you?

[@jackhughes1588]

It would be funny if in the timeline, right before the movie, the Autobots and Decepticons realized they had their weapons set to “Stun” the whole time.

[@AIFT_Staff]

And that's because decepticons starved for energy before movie(and after)

[@majinjason]

Not no much stun as they needed power, energon. So in 05 they were fully established which means they have full power so the lasers are stronger and can one shot each other like on they did on cybertron

[@chrishill3536]

it be funny if that was true.

[@thechonkbrothers2267]

The movie was just the point where Megatron finally had enough.

[@diictodon2351]

That would be the funniest shit i will ever see

[@Mr2squids]

So, true story: I was 6 years old in 1986 and I was the biggest Transformers fan. I walked into the theater to watch "Transformers the Movie" expecting to have the greatest adventure of my young life. I walked out of that theater and, well, it wasn't pretty. More than 30 years later, I'm walking out of a showing of "Avengers: Infinity War" and I see this kid (probably about nine or ten years old) wearing a Spider-Man shirt... and bawling his friggin' eyes out. And I'm like, "I feel ya, kid; I've been there." Great video, man. Thanks!

[@freddman0135]

Generational Trauma at its peak Its like war, every generation has his and when it happens its like "holy shit" The death of Prime for the 80s The death of Superman in the 90s YOU KNOW WHAT in the 2000s The death of Spider-Man in the 2010s

[@drek.475]

​@@freddman0135 one of these things is not like the other

[@freddman0135]

@@drek.475 it traumatized a generation and its still talked about today...

[@Itcouldbebunnies]

​@@drek.475 Maybe he means the gruesome death of Xena in the last episode of the show, you don't know.

[@Itcouldbebunnies]

​@@drek.475 He might be talking about the death of Xena, you don't know.

[@JorBoi99]

"Megatron? Is that you!?" "Here's a hint" *F-ing shoots him* Gets me everytime

[@dankerbell]

the movie is just full of iconic exchanges, i'll never get tired of "that's a question you should ask yourself megatron"

[@TheeDawson]

Ligit such a good line

[@dappershinx9234]

I love this line because there are two ways to interpret it. 1. Yes it's him and he's done fucking around. 2. No it is not him because Megatron wouldn't have done what Galvatron finally does.

[@RevrenDelMoral]

oh hey jor

[@justinarzola4584]

"This is bad comedy"

[@skeletor8951]

The fucking single frame of "I'M AN INVENTOR" is so much more hilarious than it has any right to be. It's even better that I INSTANTLY recognized it despite not looking at the screen.

[@Reflect21]

Timestamp?

[@hey_im_brady]

@@Reflect21 1:26

[@Reflect21]

@ much appreciated

[@harrisonlorens3585]

I’m an inventah

[@toastergaming7783]

AMA INVENTAH, THIS COULD BE A GAME CHANGER FOR ME, IF I LEARNHOWTOAPPLYTHTAHATDSYHWRBUDYSHEHDHTHJFYRNGY WE'LL NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MANEIGH AGAIN

[@xandersouls]

"I'm an inventor" ✓ Sentinel getting war crimed ✓ Not a Pointlesshub Transformers video without those

[@Batchall_Accepted]

*OPTIMUS, NO!*

[@buddabellyboom]

Merlin getting sozzled

[@Longshanks1690]

@@xandersouls Shia screaming in Bumblebee.

[@Reflect21]

@@Longshanks1690remove the s

[@Future_Vantas]

As required as that laminated law card

[@The_Zilli]

I remember the theatre going from lively to being very quiet quite quickly in the beginning of the movie. That silence was broken by the occassional cries and sniffles. I sat in silence hoping my favorite character wouldnt suffer the same fate. He didnt. Jazz and I survived that day but we were never the same afterwards....

[@copter2000]

Went in as a boy. Walked out as a man.

[@CdrChaos]

Wasn’t that the last time Jazz had spoken dialogue since his voice actor died?

[@The_Zilli]

@@CdrChaos even more reason to be surprised how the character survived... btw, u sir have a good memory, i had to look it up, Nov 22, 86 at age of 76 Scatman Crothers past away.

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

Bayformers one must have been fun for you

[@The_Zilli]

​@@TheNinthGeneration1 I dont follow fan fiction :P

[@michelvanderlinden8363]

The best part about S1-S3 will always be the scaling of the robots. The scaling is literally the animators saying "They are as big as we say they are".

[@anarchomando7707]

I mean to be fair. The original toys were like two different toy lines that got merged into one One of them was 1/60 scale, So A 1-in figure would piloting Star scream Because they were Mecha fighters

[@DaveGrean]

What's G3? Beast Wars? Robots in Disguise? Unicron Trilogy?

[@lizadon0740]

​@@DaveGrean beast wars i think.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

The fuck is g3?

[@mrsolarsun7174]

What, there's a G3?!

[@Color_Splsh]

"Imagine if pikachu flatlined on a hospital bed", that literally happened in the gen 4 era of the anime

[@zed-up]

Well, he survived

[@UrticantOdin]

He got better

[@boxorak]

Also Ash getting killed in the first movie. Yes, he got revived by Pokemon tears, but still!

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

Gets his life drained in the Gen 6 Movie too... "If I had a nickel, for everytime one of the Pokemon Anime's two Main Protags were turned to stone by the collateral of Legendary Pokemons' attacks, I'd have Two Nickels... Which isn't a lot, but it's strange it has happened twice." Imagine telling that to someone in 1998, The Fücking God Of Death Kills Pikachu... 😂

[@N8-PT]

He didn't flatline though. It was one of those recycled plots when the show was getting stale, except it was a ripoff of the Lt. Surge episode

[@MariusWales]

Orson Welles recorded his lines less than a week before he died. That fact freaks me out every time I hear Unicron in this film.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

"Man on deathbed voices robo-satan perfectly" Orson's sheer level of I-don't-give-a-shit energy gives Unicron this sense of aloofness and smug superiority that fits a planet sized god of destruction.

[@OrificeHorus]

That's... actually really heartfelt.

[@MariusWales]

​@@OrificeHorus I guess it is nice that his last role is basically the childhood of millions, especially Transformer fans.

[@NateBlade17]

The movie killed him

[@adamswing6115]

Is this the same Orson Welles who wrote the war of the worlds radio adaptation?

[@Deadpool3E]

Wanna know some funny little trivia about Starscream in the movie? This version, after forty years, still has the illustrious (dis)honor of having the shortest reign as Decepticon leader in the property's history. From coronation to disintegration, he ruled the Decepticons for a good 28 seconds. The film itself has gained a nickname in 2019 as "The Great Toy Massacre of 1986."

[@pokejoseph]

Wait till you see what Starscream does in the Marvel Comics

[@mochiman6307]

Not even some of the season 3 bots were safe

[@steverogers3919]

​@@pokejosephyou arent living life to its fullest untill you've been taken offline by a "cosmically powered Starscream"

[@jimberjamber8540]

Fun story about Jazz. He was voiced by Scatman Crothers, a very famous blues musician from the 50s/60s who was just hanging out in the studio one day and they decided to give him a character.

[@RudoMike21]

He was also in The Shining

[@Gaia_Gaistar]

I loved Jazz as a kid and I liked him being Optimus Primes second in command, something that's kinda lost in the lore these days. Was nice to see him and Orion together briefly in TF1 but he really should make a comeback as second in command.

[@TheRedIskander]

​@@Gaia_Gaistar well, I don't know if it counts, but in the IDW comics he gets some nice fleshing out. He may not be the second in command, but he's spec ops, which did make quite the difference in my opinion.

[@sleazymeezy]

​@RudoMike21 "how'd you like some ice-cream doc?"

[@monkeynt5780]

@@Gaia_GaistarIt seems like Ironhide was more second in command, or at least equal rank to Jazz. In A Prime Problem he takes command of the Autobots

[@nothisispatrick4644]

In hindsight, G1 feels like a complete fever dream. Like, one episode could have both factions be playing Mario party for earth's energon supply and on the other attempt to kill each other with absolute discrimination

[@demolisherman1763]

The image of megatons and Optimus playing on a life size IRL Mario party board is hilarious

[@rosesske2551]

@@demolisherman1763 Megatron:”I’m pretty sure Wheeljack’s dice are rigged.”

[@TheRealFakeAcco]

In the G1 comics optimus actually dies by losing in a video game

[@aquilesgarciaperez5918]

​@@TheRealFakeAcconot really, His Head still Alive but Shockwave was using It to create New Decepticons (such as the Combaticons And the Stunticons)

[@aquilesgarciaperez5918]

Or in the next Episode the Autobots would be doing a Charity Race, And the Decepticons would be Playing Baseball WITH the Humans just because they are Bored.

[@romanmuscarella3057]

"Now, I didn't cry to the death of a cartoon character." Me, flashing back to the scene when SpongeBob and Patrick dried out under the desk lamp.

[@nagger8216]

Nah, I don't care, that scene still gets me. Them singing "Goofy Goober" as they breath their last breathes goes hard as fuck.

[@christonadams9046]

That was literally me

[@lerat5978]

I was 3 and my cousin and I scream cried grabbing one another. To this day that memory makes me smile ear to ear and we laugh so so so so so hard ❤

[@keeganhooker8448]

This video is the reason I watched that scene again, because I’ve always wondered how parents were when they saw SpongeBob and Patrick die in that scene. Now watching this video, despite knowing what happened in the movie for a while, I extended that thought to this movie.

[@redline841]

Me during the opening of Up, and forgetting everything else about the mobie

[@paulisaperson0516]

My dad was born in 1961, and was well into adulthood when the 80s rolled around. When he noticed that the first transformers media I was being introduced to was the Bay movies he was like “bro this is garbage watch this thing from when I was 20 something instead it has to be better” he wasn’t even a fan he just remembered people liking it. I couldn’t be more happier that he introduced me to it.

[@purpleheart334]

You gotta love Rodimus. He just tried to help out and accidentally got somoeome killed. He was destined to be “The Chosen One” and to destroy Unicron, but after that, literally the defining moment of his life, he is left without purpose. He doesn’t want to be leader, he doesn’t want the Matrix, and he struggled knowing that his life peaked destroying Unicron and now he has to live in the shadow of the greatest leader of all time. His character was very existential and he struggled. As he put it in the video, Rodimus was doomed from the start. The fanboys hate him because they think he ruined Transformers forever, and they still act that way 38 years later and have convinced many of the Zoomer audience the same. Rodimus really deserved better.

[@kirax_EMD]

You'reso right. Rodimus is my favorite tf ever. I understand hating him when you're 7 yo but really hating him still as an adult its just sad... especially since we got more take on hot rod/ rodimus over the years and they're great and well written

[@chucksneedlee]

Rodimus is arguably the best written character in the whole franchise, and the fact he makes boomers seethe is a testament to how great he is.

[@leithaziz2716]

I don't mind Hot Rod, but when I think of the "cool" guy of the Autobots I think of Jazz first. So he's in this weird position where his archetype is just an extension put unto other characters. Heck, Bumblebee in Animated was originally meant to be Hot Rod (or Hot Shot due to the Cybertron series) and you can see a lot of his essence in Bumblebee. Cliffjumper in the Fall of Cybertron game is the same. He's cocky and likes to show off.

[@GeraldFord-rc1jm]

Eh they were literally children. I think its fair as an adult to still hate the character. It's reasonable to accept Rodimus as a more nuanced character while also still thinking it was the wrong fit for a really goofy childrens show. Im not saying all G1 fans think that, but even if you could talk them into accepting it, the hatred is still gonna be there. Especially when the movie was such a drastic and sudden shift, rather than a slow ramp into deeper subjects. Hindsight 20/20 yknow

[@vashythewabbit8288]

@@chucksneedleeyou mean the kids that seethe when they first saw the movie?

[@conflictt3224]

The thing that makes this movie great to me is that it canonically takes place in the middle of the show. So kids who didn't get to go see the movie go check the next episode of the show the next week and instantly it opens with OPTIMUS PRIMES FUCKING FUNERAL IM WHEEZING. Imagine being the 8 year old kid in that scenario. Its SO FUCKING FUNNY it probably fucking scarred some kids.

[@Y2KNW]

It took place in the summer between seasons. If you saw the movie (or read the comic) that summer, you had a pretty good idea what was going to happen in Season 3.

[@isaac6077]

@@Y2KNWand if u went to summer camp it was gonna be a fun one

[@chronoscat3371]

80s kid here. I not only didn't see the movie until it came out on video, but I missed the opening story to season 3. So jumping into a random episode of season 3, suddenly it's the future and the cast is entirely different; I'm a little confused but I roll with it. How I finally learn that Optimus and a bunch of other Autobots had been killed: the episode where Optimus comes back as a zombie. I wouldn't say the experience scarred me, but it certainly disturbed me at the time!

[@pumas2342]

i'm a 90's kid but in Mexico the transmition of cartoons was a mess back then, so that happened a lot. Like with beast wars i didn't understand what was going on when they changed the cast and even the animation style, suddenly some characters were dead and others were evil, obviously the channel didn't explain shit as to if was even the same show or what

[@epicphantom589]

@@pumas2342 Oh, you got Beast Machines’d. Weirdest sequel show ever.

[@chadlewis4079]

"Transformers: The Movie" came out just months after we watched the Challenger explode on live TV in our classrooms. 1986 was a brutal year for us Generation X kids.

[@vullord666]

That didn't even cross my mind. It'd be fascinating if someone did a study on that or just like in general how events piling up can affect development into adulthood.

[@corywack6742]

​@@vullord666there's atleast a word for it and it's generational trauma, I learned about it in high school psychology. So there probably is

[@merrittanimation7721]

"Maybe Transformers the Movie will distract me from the inevitability of death"-some kid in 1986

[@BearThe-Small-Boy]

@@vullord666you talking like exposing kids to violent concepts in shows or games? I’m sure somebody’s done a study on that. To lazy to bother finding out though.

[@derekneese9497]

​@vullord666 Warranted or not, I've found GenX to have a reputation for being particularly harsh parents who perpetuate generational trauma. I'm not saying it's the case, but it would be so funny if the root cause of this was the double whammy of witnessing the Challenger disaster and Optimus Prime die lmao

[@nateds7326]

Orson Welles is one of the coolest men who ever lived, and something about his last ever role being an insanely good voice performance in a freaking transformers movie is weirdly fitting.

[@clintbustwood4800]

I’ll never forget the time I stole my dad’s credit card to buy the Devastator toy on EBay and got my ass beat. Still got to keep it and still have him sitting on my desk to this day. Totally worth it

[@yourusualsevagoth863]

A small price to pay

[@flewis02]

Swipe Card and RUN 🏃‍♀️ OUT 😂😂😂! W move man

[@noahboat580]

"gotta have it"

[@tomhossain2099]

He didn’t beat you for getting devastator, he beat you for not letting him get devastator

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

I know it’s not germane to your anecdote but I’m sorry your Dad physically assaulted you. Nothing justifies violence on a kid (I’m assuming you were a kid; this’ll read differently if you weren’t lol.) Not trying to be a spoilsport, I’m just sorry it happened. You didn’t deserve it. In a better world you’d have the Devastator on your desk still but no physical violence with the memory of getting it.

[@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin]

Rodimus is relatable, that’s why I like him. Someone forced into responsibility and winging it. He’s no Optimus, he’s just someone trying to live up to expectations, like all of us.

[@sailordaigurren8225]

I dearly love Rodimus. Never watched the series after the movie, Tbh, but, as a kid, I loved him so much.

[@lou626]

I fucking love rodimus so much. Literally the realest bot on the whole series

[@yuyuyuyu94]

IDW comics really made perfect Rodimus: captain Kirk with his crew on Quest That Goes So Fucking Wrong.

[@TheRaulleal76]

Same. Loved Rod.

[@claudegrenier3180]

Yup... 🤗yup

[@jwalkergamingmaster9303]

My dad made me binge watch G1. He made me fall in love with the characters. Then we watched this movie. He didn’t watch the screen. He just watched my reaction the whole movie

[@ranwolf76]

I once loaned my dvd copy to a friend at work many years ago. The next day she gave back the dvd and said "Why didn't you tell me he dies?!"

[@FunkatronicGeek]

Your dad was watching for the exact moment your heart was crushed.

[@AngryNerdBird]

​@@ranwolf76 "Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?"

[@thegodofalldragons]

Diabolical.

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

What a sadistic bastard! 😲

[@afninjamaster673]

As a guy who grew up watching these cartoons. I think your synopsis really hit the nail on the head. It's nice to see someone from your generation truly understand what made G1 so great for my generation. That is one of the hardest things to explain to newer generations is what these shows meant to us growing up. Don't think I don't see why, so much is fed to you, now you don't have to imagine anymore. It is just harder to get lost in what you're seeing even when it is ridiculous. I think you nailed it though.

[@bertojo]

"Imagine Pikachu flatlined in a hospital bed" Got my ass laughing to death, I didn't expect that comparison lmao.

[@SpaceJawa]

It's even funnier in that he made nearly the same comparison for his Dark of the Moon video.

[@JonCrs10]

Once saw a 4chan greentext saying this was why there's no Transformers lost episode creepypatsa, the 86 movie was one: >characters swear >theres actual blood (well, smoke from the mouth) >everyone dies for real >its all prefaced by a different version of the opening theme song and hyper detailed animation And it works. Kinda wild to think of the 86 movie as an officially made "Squidward's Sewer Slide" you know?

[@subtlewhatssubtle]

This sounds ridiculous but I know people who were Prowl fans who were genuinely traumatized seeing him burn from the inside out after getting shot on the shuttle. The idea of a kids' show graphically killing off characters on-screen like this was a shock, especially for the pearl-clutchers out there.

[@MrtheFckface]

Also there was a comic book called the Beast within, which also has very heavy creepypasta vibes. "Have you ever wondered why the dinobots never combined? Well, this is why. In one issue, the autobots are having a hard time fighting the decepticons, and they were forced to have the dinobots combine, and they turn into a terrifying monster, and everyone dies, and there's hyperealism everywhere."

[@RAFMnBgaming]

@@MrtheFckface in a way it's a shame we've accepted volcanicus rather than letting the only dinobot combiner be something spoken about in hushed mutterings.

[@andrewmeyer3599]

@@subtlewhatssubtle Lets be real, dude, those deaths were *extremely* fucking violent for the time. I wouldn't be surprised if loads of kids walked away from the movie looking at Transformers in a much darker way

[@redline841]

@@subtlewhatssubtle Never happening again because every grimblo can make money. The callous nature of execs making something like this happen again will never happen.

[@fishqueen1702]

55:00 it’s ork logic. The Transformers didn’t think death was real, so it never happened, but as soon as Megatron said “die” every transformer went “wait we can die?” And now death can happen. Also Hot Rod is red because red iz fasta

[@wolfgangervin2582]

If it's ork logic, then why can we see the purple guys?!

[@nonenonymous]

​@@wolfgangervin2582 they are not purple they are violet

[@kanoritaziuri]

@@nonenonymousthats just hateful, not all of them are violent

[@fishqueen1702]

@ because their not purple, their deep purple, veeeery different

[@joshuakim5240]

That explains why the red characters tend to be the speedy ones.

[@Gardivusaran]

My dad was the prime age for this movies demographic. He showed it to me when we were young, and until this video, I had blocked out the movie from my memory entirely, and now after watching a couple clips, i vaguely remember just being absolutely petrified of this movie. Mostly Unicron himself, but also just the general vibe of this movie skeeved me out in ways I'll only be able to find after I rewatch it. Great vid, can't wait to get stuck on this tangent for 2 weeks

[@Scout819]

"Made the bold choice to never make him shut up" "Even when he was unconscious?" "ESPECIALLY WHEN HE WAS UNCONSCIOUS!"

[@ranwolf76]

for me that was one of the best jokes in the movie

[@Mariodash23]

​@@ranwolf76 "My finger can transform" is my favorite, but this one was great too.

[@Ultrox007]

I like the beast wars interpretation of why starscream would be kept around "Knowing someone wants to overhtrow me constantly puts me on the spot to be a proper leader, if I show incompetence I WILL be overthrown, so I must be as strong as I am effective."

[@diegosalazaralvarado7988]

I love that interpretation too, but in g1, it kinda falls apart after the 5 time the Deceptions run away.

[@Ultrox007]

@@diegosalazaralvarado7988 True, Beast Wars had the advantage of "over half the characters are actually killed, usually on screen" so Megatron doesn't have to retreat. More often he captures rookies to prey on Optimus' good nature to get him out and vulnerable as without a leader the maximals (autobots) will fall apart. Then Tarantulas wants to do some mad science thing, screws up, and the maximal escapes or dies in the process. What a shame. Edit: I just realized Tarantulas is more an evil wheeljack than a competent starscream and this all makes SO much more sense now.

[@YouCaughtCzars]

There's a graphic novel called "All Hail Megatron!" where the Decepticons actually won and the Autobots are banished to a dying Cybertron more or less surviving a zombie apocalypse. After winning, Megatron seems withdrawn to an extent and isn't issuing orders anymore and leading, and Starscream is picking up the slack and getting somewhat overwhelmed to the point he confronts Megatron about it. Megatron confides in him that the reason he tolerated the insubordination was because Starscream's ruthless ambition and conviction that he should rule made him the ideal Decepticon, and Starscream was too short-sighted to realize his own potential. Megatron more or less said that he wanted Starscream to grow to the point where he would actually be worthy to lead because at some point, Megatron wasn't going to be around forever and someone would need to step up. He basically tolerated Starscream's constant betrayals and schemes because he saw him as a protege who would succeed him. I actually quite liked that interpretation. It made Megatron's seemingly infinite patience have more substance. Another theory I read that made a lot of sense was that Megatron keeps Starscream around as a sign of strength. He is so not threatened by Starscream that it's not even worth the effort to do more than lightly smack Starscream down for his betrayals and screw-ups and all the other Decepticons would see that and follow-suit. Who knows? Maybe it kept him on his toes. How's anyone supposed to take Starscream seriously if all of his constant attempts at usurping leadership end up with him getting humiliated? Usually, they don't. Could also be that they don't have a lot of soldiers to lose in the war, so casually smiting a treacherous little idiot could be detrimental if for no other reason than other Decepticons might begin to think that if they screw up, they're disposable.

[@declanjones8888]

​@@YouCaughtCzars Damn Transformers has got crazy lore.

[@Ultrox007]

@@declanjones8888 Wait until you learn about the Socialist Democratic Federated Republic of Carbombya (car bomb... be-yuh)

[@TheMaristBoy]

I love the original's concept of a dad embodied in Sparkplug. He's every kids' idea of a dad who could fix anything and knows everything.

[@MDestron2282]

For sure. Any episode where Spike royally screwed up, Sparkplug always told him that he still loved him/was proud of him in the end. Sparkplug was awesome.

[@jerdonclar8655]

As a Gen Xer who got the OG toys and sat in front of the TV watching it, I always love seeing subsequent generational POVs. I'm not stuck in my ways...Prime is my fave Transformers

[@bradleycalkins394]

Scale in Transformers is so bad that even the wiki's own article on the subject opens with the line "Scale in the Transformers franchise is, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed". The TFWiki is a gem.

[@CloudWalkBeta]

You would need to assume transformers could not only manipulate their shape in seconds, but their size AND weight. But they could only transform between 2 or so modes (ignoring triple changers and 6 shot). If the writers had leaned into this they could have made the transformers look even more amazing from a technologically advanced race point of view,

[@Apprentice125]

The fact that "To Sell Toys" is a wiki page solidifies it as the greatest wiki for any toy based fandom.

[@stryke-jn3kv]

If you need another example look up the page for the recent Trigger tribute to the franchise which covers pretty much every single character ever including some that I had no clue even were related to Transformers like that white cat dude with the eyepatch

[@DJmouchi777]

​@Apprentice125 Sometimes you gotta remind people that these are 22-minute toy commercials and to not take it so seriously.

[@jaymeVos]

​@@Apprentice125 The 90s had some of the coolest toys, that I can remember. I used to have all of the giant skeletons (from some cartoon I can't remember the name of), my favorite one had six arms. They looked so cool. And I had all of the old TMNT toys, Bucky O'Hare (along with his ship and one of the evil Frog ships), the OG Battle Toads figures, the OG He-Man toys (including both castles for each faction, and Hordaks cave lair, unless I'm getting that mixed up with Vengers cave, from the D&D cartoon). My older brother had the GI Joe oil rig play set and then gave me his Millennium Falcon & the Imperial Transport ship toys. We had nearly every single Star Wars & He-Man toy. And we melted them, burnt them with giant magnifying glasses, cut them up, or tossed them up onto our roof before we moved. If only we had known 😅

[@thebigksmoosey]

I'm 47. I grew up watching Transformers. When we found out Optimus Prime died it was kinda crazy. I mean we weren't losing our minds, but our kids brains struggled with it a bit. My holiday is messed up this year. I've had a bunch of kidney stones and I'm just sitting at home eating painkillers. This video is the best thing to happen today, thanks buddy. Us old guys appreciate it!

[@bruhmoment3503]

My dad left that theater a changed kid when ratchet died

[@zeroalphaser]

I don’t know you… but hang in there bud!

[@Medinotas429]

I hope you feel better in the future!

[@TheGreat_Kramer1]

Same age and this was the first movie my mom dropped me and my best friend off to watch this by ourselves.

[@_Hofnarr]

Same age man. Sorry about the stones, that shit HURTS. My kid brain kinda imploded but I was always a sensitive little shit. Hope you get better soon!

[@darlingdovely]

Might be a little out of place here as gen z, but I'll never forget the shock of watching some goofy robot cartoon from my dad's childhood, having my favorite Bumblebee toy, and then getting hit with THE Optimus Prime flatlining on screen on a random Saturday and then having to help my grandma clean the house afterwards.

[@cosmicspacebub5978]

Same. I grew up with the bayverse movies. Particularly 1-3 shaped a lot of my childhood so I went and watched the original G1 series and remembering how at a certain point, I could feel how “serious” the show had gotten. Don’t know why I was shocked when autobots and deceptions are dying left and right in bayverse.

[@GenXrecluse]

Brother I'm 49, I was there...saw it all,played with it all, and I never questioned their flying....that how cool we thought it was we loved it so much we didn't care, thanks man!

[@Idontpaytaxeslol]

I had a think about it and I wonder if they flew because they had jet packs that they simply didn’t put in the show

[@mikesworld6064]

“I would’ve waited an eternity for this…” -Megatron, 1986

[@Vern_Trertnert]

"I would've waited until 1986 for this..." -Megatron, Eternity

[@youwayo]

*2005

[@zacharymccoy7091]

I know Orson Wells didn't like voicing a toy as his last role, but man that voice has become so iconic with Unicron.

[@johndoh4537]

Not only that but was probably one of the most interesting villains of the 80s for a kids movie because he’s not evil he’s the embodiment of the entropy and nihilism

[@AugustRx]

God was on something, killing him a week after voicing unicron.

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

@@AugustRx There's two ways to frame this; either God killed Orson Welles a week after voicing Unicron, because at that point just fuck it I guess, or he knew that Welles was dying anyway and decided, for a laugh, that THIS of all things, would be his final assignment. Personally, I prefer the latter scenario.

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@MrGeorgeFlorcus I know someone said the voice director was a bit of a slavedriver and that may have worsened Welles's condition. But I sorta doubt that. He's been on both sides of that mic. He's actually Uther in WC3 and the later combined Lichking in Wrath.

[@tomhossain2099]

That actually an urban legend, he respected the role of the ancient destroyer god and was kind of in awe that they would go this far just to sell toys.

[@strixalu]

Thank you for explaining Starscream's character so well here. It's genuinely baffling to see other iterations of the character making him so cowardly and sniveling towards Megatron when G1 Starscream will literally say how stupid and wrong Megatron is while Megatron is choking him out. He rarely begs for forgiveness or grovels, and he only does so when he's genuinely fearing for his life. Imagine having to be subservient to the universe's dumbest and most senile gladiator who can rip out your vocal cords for almost no reason. It really makes sense in G1 exactly why Starscream wants to overthrow Megatron. It's not just because of power, or because Starscream is so prideful he can't stand being the second (even though that's part of it)-it's because Megatron is so goddamn incompetent that he prolongs the war just because of his stubbornness and stupidity. And every single time Starscream calls him out he gets verbally or physically attacked for it, even when he's proven right over and over again. I think anyone would go insane in that situation

[@IceLena]

I will forever keep in mind that the war would not have happened had Megatron listened to Starscream the first time in g1 in the very first damn episode. Just told the guy hey why don't we shoot those guys down and win. And megs is like no. what do you know they all end up in a robo coma for millions as a result.

[@xavierjuno4572]

Honestly I think that's why I and a lot of other fans like Prime Starscream (simply because he's the perfect representation of what Starscream is in essence)

[@trevorparker6400]

If I remember correctly, Starscream doesn't actually run from a lot of fights without taking danage or being ordered to. I remember him actually making fun of Megatron for constantly ordering a retreat at the first sign of Autobot interference

[@xavierjuno4572]

@@trevorparker6400 Ya that's what I remember too heck there was one G1 episode where he almost won with the Combaticons and he had no choice but to cower because Menasor absolutely body slammed Bruticus

[@strixalu]

@ You remember correctly. I've been watching G1 and I can't think of a single time he ran away from a fight without being called to retreat. And he definitely does make fun of Megatron several times for retreating lol. In one episode Soundwave says "Megatron is retreating." And Starscream literally says "What else is new?" Lmfao

[@Mariodash23]

These videos are what got me to actually check out Transformers. I'm glad I did, because this franchise is significantly more fun, inspiring, and absolutely insane than I ever expected. Even G1 surprised me with how hilariously unhinged it got at times. So thank you, Cody. Your journey through this franchise has made me, and likely many other people here, a fan of these robots that always finds new ways to be More Than Meets The Eye.

[@eeveestar6826]

That Eevee getting mowed down by a truck was the funniest and most distressing thing I've seen all day

[@pinstripecool34]

Eevee LOOK OUT!!!!!!!!

[@destructocat1960]

You're a mystery dungeon enjoyer

[@levilecrone3456]

Laughing in horror is truly one of my favorite emotions.

[@NorthstarSystem]

never thought id see a pmd icon in the comments of this video but honestly, i completely understand it

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

@@levilecrone3456 It’s my most inescapable emotion. & fate.

[@SleepyGrapes]

“I never get involved with domestic squabbles” is a WILD line to put in a kids show lmao

[@clipboss8052]

Timecard, please 🥺!

[@SleepyGrapes]

@ everyone who liked this comment heard the line I’m talking about except you maybe just watch the video lol

[@dooplon5083]

​@@SleepyGrapes bro the vid's even longer than the movie was it's not unreasonable to forget when a single line was said lmao You can just say you don't remember either, don't gotta be rude about it

[@dooplon5083]

​@@clipboss8052it's around 26:30 when he discusses the episode Triple Takeover, it's a line from the episode itself. It's a really goofy one too in the best way, highly recommend it lol

[@clipboss8052]

@@dooplon5083 Thank you 👍!

[@luckykennedy7364]

Fun Fact: when they were remastering the show back in the early 2000s Hasbro quickly figured out that they didn't have the original negatives so they had to rely on old work prints of episodes... which had more animation errors than the finished episodes. You can see this most evidently on rhino entertainment's DVDs but Shout Factory did correct this somewhat.

[@yurifairy2969]

are there archives of the originals anywhere?

[@luckykennedy7364]

@yurifairy2969 there are the Maverick DVDs from the UK which used the original Master tapes.

[@MrLlama-rc8nj]

I'm so happy hearing anything about G1 because I was literally raised on this stuff. My dad bought me Season 2 for my fifth birthday because he watched all this stuff as a kid and thought I would love it and he wasn't wrong. Shoutout to all you Gen X-ers showing us Gen Z kids your childhood and now as a grown man I can appreciate it even more

[@zanethezaniest274]

I always love G1’s portrayal of Optimus as a caring father figure. It’s an aspect of Optimus’ character I wish would be revisited more, cuz it’s that fatherly aspect that made his death so much more painful for kids back then.

[@trypticon8619]

I agree, prime NEEDS to fill in that fatherly role more often

[@leithaziz2716]

I actually do agree with this perception. I don't mind Optimus being serious for the situation, but I also wanna see him act as a dad for the Autobots, or just goof around and have some fun when things are calm. Only Animated and Orion Pax in the new movie retain that aspect of the character.

[@XmanXX181]

Skybound has kinda brought that in, it’s a good take on prime

[@CoolManCoolMan123]

​@@leithaziz2716 Earth spark also does that. Although the design really is ugly

[@animeking1357]

@@CoolManCoolMan123 Optimus' head in Earthspark looks too vertical. Like they squished his head or something.

[@5unnysCorner]

Hot Rod's existence making adults who probably have an actual life today seethe in anger over something that happened like 40 years ago makes me love him even more. I *wish* I could have even a fraction of that impact he has had.

[@yurifairy2969]

plus he's really cool in the comics

[@verdigo1]

Today's version has to be Ava from Borderlands 3. Gets her mentor killed, then gets cosmically 'chosen' to take their place. At least Rod anguished a bit over being his fuck-up. Ava proceeded to blame everyone and everything but herself.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

ICON REBEL HOTROD

[@Tores444]

As a kid I Hot Rod was my favorite. I was totally oblivious to why he was so hated 😂

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

Man why do you wish to piss ppl off for 40 yrs

[@igiem368]

The original "The Transformers: The Movie" is 1h 25m. This video is 1h 31m. This man made a video dissecting a movie longer than it takes to actually watch the movie. Nothing but respect.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

To be fair, there's also discussion of the G1 TV show in here too.

[@richborn6700]

Dude there are like 5-6 hours thesis videos dissecting different Star Wars sequels individually.

[@sleazymeezy]

​@richborn6700 but no-one cares about the sequels. Theyre poorly written and are in no way original. Just a desperate cash grab.

[@NaughtMax]

Game is game

[@Hammaster]

I mean if you're dissecting something I think it's pretty natural for your analysis to be longer than the thing you're analyzing. Depends on the level of detail you want to go into I suppose, but it's not like it's a summary.

[@Confuzed54]

Wheeljack really is the hidden gem of G1, and I feel like a lot of that is due to the voice acting. The late, great Christopher Collins absolutely knocked it out of the park, doubly so considering he also voiced Starscream and Sparkplug. Now that’s range.

[@clintelkins9630]

Having no mouth is definitely a more iconic design for optimus prime, but I LOVE the transforming mask in the first 3 Bay movies, it just portrays *"somethings about to go the hell down"* and it is so cool.

[@johndunn1625]

Yeah, to me it felt like it made a greater impact on them getting ready to actually go to war

[@c.d.rstudios4691]

It felt like a knight pulling down his face plate before charging into cavalry

[@leithaziz2716]

"Who would you be without me, Prime?" "Time to find out..." Psychotic behaviour outside, the timing of the mask slipping up still goes hard.

[@spriggylotus4476]

Eh, Optimus without a mouth feels far more like an actual robot to me, there's something about guys who always have faceplates on, like Gundams, who look so cool.

[@dankerbell]

​@spriggylotus4476i hope one day we get perma-plate prime back but considering even things distancing themselves from bay like the bumblebee reboots and one keep it, it seems unlikely. this is why the cybertron games are 🔛🔝

[@isabaig6665]

Transformers one is peak. Both of them.

[@concept5631]

Peak recognizes peak

[@American-patriot.]

🗿

[@Not_Vakama_303]

Do you mean “all three”?

[@Travelerfrom2024]

No, both of them. There's no other one. ​@@Not_Vakama_303

[@concept5631]

@@Not_Vakama_303 Three? Like, the first Bayformers movie or?

[@thelastcrow5660]

The most interesting part of Starscream is the fact that he isn't incompetent or cowardly because he lacks skill, he's just traumatized and lost a lot of confidence from Megatron's abuse, or at least that's how many of his incarnations are portrayed. Really makes you look at him in a different light.

[@trashboat115]

Hes not a beaten wife it's a cartoon robot.. it ain't that deep

[@thelastcrow5660]

@trashboat115 :))))

[@kindredbarkmaw2509]

And then there's Armada Starscream who is flat out the revolutionary megatron would end up being backstoried as, and he even ives his life to save everyone, autobots includin. He was traitorous for a reason, and he was also STILL RIGHT.

[@rylievalentine7109]

You watch emperor kumquat don't you? Goated channel

[@alimations5226]

​@@trashboat115 you were definitely one of them executives who thought killing Optimus was a good idea

[@gabrielrangel5701]

39:31 It was a national tragedy. Optimus walked through blood & bones in the streets of Manhattan looking for his brother.

[@polkka7797]

“Yeah… he was in northern Cybertron”

[@FindSpencer]

@@polkka7797this megatron guy seems like a real jerk!

[@Longshanks1690]

I know that they didn’t exactly have the ability to know which characters were beloved in the same way as they knew which toys were popular back then, but it still blows my mind that they killed off basically all the best characters from both factions and thought it wasn’t going to leave much of an impact. 😂

[@blackarotto2804]

It’s to guilt trip the fans, oh you love Optimus huh, THEN WHY DIDNT YOU BUY MORE TOYS

[@terryhiggins5077]

It was because Hasbro, didn't care. It was just "out with the old in with the new." That was the entire thought process.

[@leithaziz2716]

I guess it shows how much attachment people grow to fictional characters. I don't excercise the feelings as much now as an adult, but the internet reminds me that those feelings have merit. The most recent I cried for a character was in Red Dead Redemption 2 and Ezio Auditore from Assassin's Creed. It's just...hard to know how to interpret characters in your imagination and if that's "real". The emotions are certainly there, I guess. That's why art exists to this day.

[@Drave_Jr.]

Soundwave survived, and that's basically it.

[@DrFuntimes32]

@@Drave_Jr. Yes, but the line blurs with the Ghost of Starscream

[@OberynTheRedViper]

Starscream's death was when I grew up and realized that no matter how hard you work, no matter how loyal you are to the cause, no matter how much 100% unjustified hate you take -some nepo baby with a trust fund and their daddy's toys are gonna take your job from you.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Totally not relevant to recent events

[@Machosause]

Skill issue

[@mhm6262]

@@Machosausequiet, neet

[@The_Mothmann]

this has me wheezing thank you

[@vee-bee-a]

Oh, no! Any-way...

[@JustinY.]

I don't care what anyone says, that scene where Optimus takes the Requiem Blaster and ends up parting the ocean to stop himself from falling like the second coming of Moses will always be peak cinema to me.

[@WokeDEMOCRATShaveASPD]

I see you have much passion for the arts judging on what you say and the places I see you like Oney Plays…it seems obscure but it attracts a kind of personality and hobbyist. I would know. I’d assume you’d do something like that or put your creations on your channel….a secret 2nd channel? I pray it’s going well for you. The ones running the world seem to try to drain passion from everyone.

[@omarsalem1219]

OMG

[@Gorbz]

Ah, the Requiem Blaster. A gun made up of three minicons, who stopped being characters for the rest of the show and just stayed as "those guys that make the gun". Same with the Star Saber and Skyboom Shield.

[@accerrr]

JUSTINY I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN MONTHS WTF

[@RudoMike21]

He's back (the man behind the Justin)

[@ethanbrown5253]

31 year old here. I was first introduced to Transformers thanks to the Armada show and its toys. I still had that Armada Optimus Prime toy that was fun (even got the updated Legacy version last year). Lapsed for several years until the 07 Bay movie and I got sucked in since. Ironically enough it was a few years later when I got into watching G1 and was amazed by 80’s goofiness and the shocking contrast of the ‘86 movie. That series is great in its own right. Great vid, Mr. Hub. Looking forward to your TFOne vid!

[@barachiel212]

I'm an OG '84 Transformers fan, and I had the burden of being one of the ONLY Rodimus fans out there. I guess because I was further ahead on my reading level than most of my peers, I got what they were doing with him, even at that age, and I was excited. All too often leaders in childrens shows, were basically perfect paragons. Optimus definitely was. So seeing one who was unsure of himself, plain-spoken, and just struggling to live up to his predecessor's legacy was really enthralling, even to me. Suffice to say, that was a lonely road to how as a TF fan. While its gotten somewhat better over the decades, its good to find someone else who appreciates my favorite character in the franchise. Thank you for these reviews. I found your channel through them, and its been a joy to go through your archive. Keep up the excellent work.

[@bitwolfy]

When I saw the movie as a kid in 2007, Rodimus became my favorite because he was a cool red car with fire, that became a cool red space truck with fire. He's still my favorite to this day, you're not alone!

[@MrCat-zz5eo]

@@bitwolfy I saw the movie roughly that year too, as a last present from an uncle of mine who tragically lost his life, which made Prime's passing resonate a bit more with me. Sent me a CD of the entire 3rd and 4th seasons with the Movie also bundled in there, and I quickly grew fond of Rodimus. Didn't understand the hate for him, but I think that was mostly because I started with his generation before the rest, so I didn't really end up disliking him. Something about his struggle to take the reins and live up to his predecessors echoes a bit with me, and I really feel he's been maligned, up until recent years got him back in his groove (thanks IDW and Cyberverse, you gave my boi a fresh pair of wheels to roll out with again!).

[@jasonoxley6125]

I'm an OG fan of both Transformers and Rodimus as well, being born in 78. Funnily enough I was further ahead with reading as well, thanks to my mother who was an avid reader. I was a big Stephen King fan way back then so the deaths didn't bother me at all.

[@bitwolfy]

@@MrCat-zz5eo As an adult I definitely now appreciate what they tried to do with Rodimus, especially with the Impossible task of repairing his reputation. His story starts out pretty tropey honestly, young reckless rookie who no one thinks will amount to anything ends up finding his potential and becomes the best of them all, pretty played out honestly. But that's where that story typically ends, this time we actually got to see where that lead, which was to a jaded Rodimus desperately wanting to live up to Primes enormous legacy, while simultaneously wishing he could leave all that boring diplomacy leader crap behind, it's honestly super compelling. I think my favorite detail is how Rodimus's face is noticeably more aged than Hot Rods, it's even a gimmick in his masterpiece toy. Poor guy just got delt a bad hand, even if he wasn't arguably responsible for getting Prime flatlined, it's debatable if he'd ever reach the same heights Prime did, but him getting snubbed with Optimus's return where the universe just goes "yeah you totally didn't have the touch" really always bothered me. I'm happy a new generation of writers who aren't bitter about a 40 year old movie have given Hot Rod new life. If you ever want an example of said bitterness, read Transformers Deviations, its a horrible comic where Hot Rod was prevented from getting prime shot, and is about 20 pages of Hot Rod screwing up and getting everyone else killed, the writer could just not let go.

[@MrCat-zz5eo]

@@bitwolfy If it helps, I've noted elsewhere that while Optimus was suited to be a leader in wartime, Rodimus could guide people in peacetime, and if ever the fighting broke out again. Season 3 opens with him having helped Earth get into an intergalactic trade deal, as well as a cross-planetary Olympic games. Furthermore, the Quintesson Journal episode shows him being quick to restrain the Xetaxxian and Lanarqan emissaries just as they're about to go nuclear on each other, buying Sky Lynx and co. time to bring the Journal into the peace talks and prove that both sides were manipulated by the Quintessons and their dastardly war profiteering schemes. My lad does lambaste himself, but he's pretty competent in his own right. He's just under so much pressure and has bigger tires to fill...

[@Grimmance]

I remember my mom renting and putting this movie on after we got back from my dad funeral (wasnt my first time watching it) and Optimus dying really Effed me up.

[@henryapplebottom7231]

I imagine it would.

[@animeking1357]

Bro lost two dads in one day. What a slap in the face.

[@SetariM]

Jesus...

[@samuelwithers2221]

Holy fuck man

[@tonybippitykaye]

Reminds me of a comment someone made on an Onward reaction where they mentioned their father passed and they went to watch the movie in theaters a few days after the funeral. In all seriousness though: Jesus I am so sorry.

[@saychaysarchive7065]

Fun fact for anyone who does not know: GI Joe A Real American Hero also got a movie around the same time, and it had the same problem where a lot of its original main characters were not selling anymore on the toy shelf, so they were going to kill them, and specifically Duke (Channing Tatum if you only ever saw the live action movies). During the second act, the villain Serpentor throws a live snake like a javelin into Duke's heart. He is clearly meant to die here, but the reaction to Optimus Prime's death caused the writers to change this. Now they linger on his face and Scarlett says he fell into a coma. At the end of the movie the characters get a phone call saying that Duke is going to make a full recovery. All because people were so upset about Optimus Prime dying

[@Sweety8587]

That explains SO MUCH. I've loved the gi Joe movie since I was a wee one but never liked the ham fisted "duke's going to be a-okay!" Call in the end 😂 now I know

[@davehood2667]

Yeah, that was a miscalculation, the Optimus toys weren't selling because absolutely everybody had one.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Duke dying came first iirc

[@Sorain1]

@@davehood2667 Which is funny to me, because they had exactly the right idea with Megatron. Slight name change, new design (and thus toy) and same character. Poof, instant money.

[@Fenris30]

​@@Sorain1Funny thing is Ultra Magnus is just Optimus wearing a Mech suit (Powered Convoy). They could have easily just made it Optimus in a Life Support suit as Orion Pax again as the Cybertronian President with Rodimus in the Flint Role as field leader. Hell the movie even set Arcee up as his Girlfriend like Flint had with Lady Jaye.

[@Moonflight021]

i grew up watching the 1980s transformers, even though I was born in 2003. my mom, who grew up watching it in the 80s, introduced me to it. i love it so much

[@Birch_ON]

I gotta say, this is the best G1 analysis I've ever seen. I'm also a guy who grew up solely on the Bay films who went back to watch G1 and I think you represented our weird little sect of TF fans perfectly.

[@TransDrummer1312]

He nailed it. I grew up on the series with Transformers Cybertron, and going back to watch G1 is like drinking a fine wine. "Ah yes what sort of inane bullshit am I gonna see today". I savor it, it's hilarious and never fails to make me laugh. Absolute disasterpiece of a show, it's amazing and I love it.

[@MilesDashing]

The "Hot Rod killed Optimus" thing is an interesting case of what philosophers call moral luck. Hot Rod saw Megatron going for a gun that Optimus didn't see, and tries to stop him. This results in Optimus getting killed when probably he wouldn't have if Hot Rod hadn't been there. Or that's what the movie wants us to think...apparently Megatron believed he could grab the gun and shoot Optimus without Hot Rod's help. Anyway, the moral luck thing is that Hot Rod made the correct decision, but the decision ended up having the opposite outcome. Sort of like if you take away your drunken friend's car keys, and then he steals your car and accidentally runs over a kid. If Hot Rod's actions had the normal and expected consequences, he would have SAVED Optimus. Are Hot Rod's actions blameworthy? Is he responsible for Prime's death? There's no clear answer, and this is the problem of moral luck.

[@hannahbrown2728]

Thanks for introducing me to this phrase for such a somewhat commonly used trope.

[@darwinxavier3516]

One issue with your comparison is that Hot Rod objectively made the situation worse by becoming a hostage. Meanwhile the drunken friend was going to drunk drive regardless of which car he did it in. Whether or not running over a kid was dependent on which car he used was more a matter of incalculable variables.

[@dziewiaty]

​@@darwinxavier3516I would change the stolen car scenario for more realistic scnario of said friend walking home as protagonist of that kitgle hypothetical intended, but ending up getting into the fight on way home and unintentionally killing someone. Outcome you could not anticipate, resulting in tragedy all the same

[@raptorfromthe6ix833]

funny words magic man

[@MilesDashing]

@ It wasn't the best analogy, that's true. In Hot Rod's case, there was a third choice available to him that wouldn't have run this risk, and that would be to just shoot Megs with the guns he has built into his arms because he's a Poochie. (I'm not a Hot Rod hater, but he is clearly a Poochie.)

[@liamramos1285]

Megatron: sneezes Starscream: “IM THE NEW LEADER!!”

[@ArrowHead944]

Watching Prowl’s eyes explode and fill with smoke traumatized me as a child😂 Great video sir!

[@omeka7353]

- 37:31 Dude said he would get into the transforming city later - Proceed to forget about it for the rest of the video 😂

[@trashboat115]

Even i forgot he said this lol

[@haiyzu]

It's metroplex,the goat

[@chucheeness7817]

Metroplex did NOT heed the call of the last Prime.

[@MDestron2282]

He's a city. He's also a robot. It's ridiculous, of course! Covered.

[@trashboat115]

@MDestron2282 "we'll get to that" a brief mention isnt covering something 🤦‍♂️

[@BR-jw7pm]

Fun fact: in Wreckgar’s scene, Weird Al’s “Dare to be Stupid” plays. In the 2000’s Transformers Animated, Wreckgar was voiced BY Weird Al!

[@TheRogueCommand]

Continuing a proud tradition of Weird Al appearing in almost every cartoon at random 😂

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

I mean they sure as hell were never getting Eric Idle back to reprise the role... Seriously, what madman made the casting choice to have one of the Pythons play the leader of the Mongolian Biker Gang from Space-Detriot? I mean it works, but that's not the voice you expect to hear come out of that character design...

[@Wyvernatus]

His episode was a lot funnier with that fact in mind. Animated is great

[@Majinhero]

animated came out in 2009

[@Wyvernatus]

@@Majinhero It ended in 2009, it came out the same year as the first Bayverse film

[@DeputyNoName-bj5jp]

Wasn’t expecting a Pokémon explanation at the beginning. But it makes sense

[@spartanc173]

I'm also pretty sure someone's used it before.

[@soundbuug]

​@@spartanc173 yeah, the same guy on the transformer 3 video

[@Ludochris]

@@soundbuug if it ain't broke don't fix it

[@eevv2229]

He did the same thing with his Transformers 3 video.

[@raptorskilltor4554]

If I remember correctly there was an extra short in the Japan version of the movie where mewtwo human girl who was his friend dies before he was born

[@kevinism776]

Im glad to have been a Gen X kid growing up to experience Transformers G1 in real time. I was one that was very upset seeing Optimus die in the movie as well as being confused at the darker tone season 3 took. Concluding with the abrupt ending after season 4. Back then it was no internet so I never understood why they went back to showing season 1 episodes after the 3 Rebirth series. I wish it could've continued but some chapters have to close. I remember throwing my toys out moving into my early teenage years but now as an adult I've gone back to buy a few as a collector. Transformers G1 were some great times and it definitely helped with my development of a boy becoming a young man. Great video!!

[@marzeloperas]

When I first heard Megatron exclaiming "DIE AUTOBOTS!!!", that's when I realized it's going to be brutal from the show

[@MelRetro]

*This is my dad’s childhood movie. He told me cried and stopped the VCR. My dad has a big heart.* ❤

[@RinaRetro]

Mine too. They had different names in Japan, but still the same characters in heart 💙

[@Mag_ladroth]

I didn't expect you guys to watch AltHistoryHub

[@nobalkain624]

I saw it in the Theater as a Kid, made me cry then, and still does now.

[@destructocat1960]

Oi why you everywhere

[@MelRetro]

@@destructocat1960 we may be subbed to the same channels

[@ellie_shrug]

Finally, someone pointed out Optimus' mouth, or lack thereof. It really does remind me of tokusatsu, like you pointed out. Keep the helmet on. That's what big studios need to learn.

[@dangerfly]

(14:15) Finally someone that knows what the word 'literally' means...

[@JTtheOctoling]

The mouth looks weird in ROTB imo, wish they would’ve kept the mask permanently on

[@gespenst1329]

That likely started with the JP versions.

[@owene2530]

I'm tired of studios assuming the audience isn't capable of reading the emotions of someone in a mask.

[@YashaSkaven]

​@@gespenst1329Optimus original import model Fire Convoy was a diaclone toy tbf

[@Die-CastMetal]

Thank you…! I grew up with G1 Transformers cartoon and toys. You perfectly captured my thoughts as a child and just presented 40 year old ideas right back at me. You’re awesome…!

[@jean7288]

29:12 The delivery of "Croctimus prime" on top of me just... not expecting that has me laughing so loud rn

[@zeanyt2372]

Agree, that was good. But tbh, a tri-former Optimus Prime with a croc mode would be kind of cool. Ridiculous, but cool.

[@user-iz7kc4ql7g]

Broo😂😂😂

[@x-modulator4067]

I think it is important to point out that the “Return of Optimus Prime” teaser at the end of “Dark Awakening” was added in a later rerun of the episode shortly before the episode it was marketing came out. It initially didn’t have that at all, so it felt much more sadistic to sort of give the kids what they wanted and then burn it down in front of them.

[@samuelwithers2221]

I was 3-4 when I watched the movie and Dark Awakening. It was the original version on DVD. I genuinely could not handle learning the concept of death because of Optimus Fucking Prime. When they brought him back at the end of the season, it was on a DVD we had rented once, and I was never sure for years after if that actually happened or I just imagined it to heal the trauma.

[@davidsharrock5839]

Glad to find out The original Dark Awakening ending I vaguely remember isn’t a fever dream.

[@josiaharaki7310]

Galvatrons madness definitely came and went as the plot demanded. By the end of season 3 he almost seemed like he was slowly recovering, but by the Japanese continuity show headmasters, he was so much worse that his "grand plan" was to use the earth and "transforming parts" from his own men to become "Unicorn", which is literally Unicron's planet mode with Galvatron's head and limbs jutting out of it, like a man in a pumpkin costume.

[@トーキ-g8v]

Soundblast (Soundwave's upgraded form's new name) was almost like Galvatron's caretaker, like he's taking care of his dad who has alzheimers

[@jacobwhitehead8465]

This is Unicorn.😂

[@BaconMinion]

At the very end of season 3, he had recovered, actually. Having been infected by the Hate Plague, then having it cured, seems to have actually fixed whatever was wrong with his mind. I feel they were trying to bring him back to being more of Megatron, since Optimus was back, so they wanted to reset things to get that old dynamic back. Except the show was canned.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Unicorn lmfao

[@RManYT2]

Growing up in the 2000’s my uncle gave me a vcr player with 3 tapes, the original movie and a chunk of season 2. I don’t know how many times I watched them but I remembered each one. I lost it when you brought up my favorite episode with the Combaticons, S tier episode. I still occasionally go back and watch the opening of the movie and will remember the sequence to“The Touch” until the day I die. Thanks for this.

[@dank_smirk2ndchannel200]

Man, I always feel bad for Rodimus. His whole thing is him feeling guilt for Optimus' death and doubt on if he'll ever be able to fill his shoes. Meanwhile, kids were yelling at him through the TV that they want Optimus back and that they hate him. And in the end, he'll always be considered a mistake no matter how hard he could try.

[@nagger8216]

tbf He was never going to make it with a name like fucking "Rodimus" to begin with. I mean, come on, imagine if that was literally any other character lol Beeimus Prime? Jazzimus Prime? Ratchetus Prime? They shot him in the foot from the get-go.

[@Kutomi1]

​@@nagger8216 I think it sounds cool- But English isn't my first language and I didn't even know the word "rod" when I first saw this character, so maybe my opinion doesn't count.

[@trashboat115]

He killed optimus idfc ☠️

[@trashboat115]

​@@nagger8216 idk man ratchetus prime kinda works

[@jonathanspears3484]

I've very much warmed up to Hot Rod as I've gotten older... he had impossibly large blue boots to fill. (Also we had James Roberts on MTMTE.)

[@BubblegumCrash332]

I was 7 when I watched Transformers the Movie 86 and it has forever been burned into my memory. It got me into animation, anime and it got me mentally prepared for the Red Wedding in Game of Thrones all those years later

[@Daniel-lk1om]

Rodimus is one of my favorite characters, it’s like one of Optimus’ lines from the 2nd Bayformers film: “fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing”. He didn’t want to become the leader, knew he could never truly replace Optimus, but still did his best for his people and the greater good of the universe.

[@Kamiyartz]

For Optimus Prime having a mouth and a retractable plate, I think the first series to show that is the Transformers Cybertron(Galaxy Force in Japan) anime which aired in 2005, pre-dating the movie.

[@adrisbotgarage]

I just KNOW you cackled maniacally to yourself when you ended the video with the “more than meets the eye” line, and you know what? Good on you, man

[@SandwitchZebra]

Soundwave being basically the same by the end of the show compared to nearly every other year 1 character is funny to me. Some of them changed bodies, some of them died and came back to life, some of them did both, some just disappeared, but Soundwave? He just got a bat. I wonder if he ever reflects on that.

[@occam7382]

Soundwave reflects on everything. It's part of what he does.

[@justinarzola4584]

Soundwave got a new black and purple color scheme in the Japan exclusive Headmasters cartoon.

[@pacotaco1246]

Soundwave Superior joke intensifies

Soundwave has all the receipts - he reflects on those between missions. Plus he is the only solid and dedicated decepticon team player. Reliable. (my personal favorite was and is Starscream)

[@BaconMinion]

@@justinarzola4584 "Galvatron has reused some of Soundwaves parts, along with some other new parts and has reconstructed another Soundwave and renamed him NEW SOUNDWAVE." Soundwave: It's been a while. Cassettes: *vague cheering*

[@Lorkanthal]

my personal head cannon for the first two seasons having lack luster damage is that the autobots and decepticons were running on low power the entire time. The autobots not wanting to strain humanity's power supply only took what they needed while the decepticons were only able to use what they could steal and even then had to send a good amount of that back to cybertron to keep it running. Fast forward 20 years to the time of the movie and the decepticons had secured cybertron, likely solving their energy problems in the process meaning they were once again able to use full power for their weapons. Meanwhile the autobots finished building their own city on earth which would allow them to also produce their own energy again.

[@darwinxavier3516]

That sounds great and all. Except in S3 when the Quintessons trick Galvatron into assaulting Cybertron, they gave the Decepticons a bunch of energon to revitalize themselves. Enough to even create an entire city size kaiju transformer. And there were zero casualties during the resurrgence. The only other time someone dies again is when Starscream has his body restored for a whopping few minutes.

[@dougmoody8418]

When I was a child, my local library had this movie on VHS and DvD but didn't have G1 episodes as easily available. I would get this movie every few weeks and watch it relentlessly and now... I've never outgrown Rodimus as my favorite prime. I kept looking for him in every new reboot, and was always disappointed when I couldn't find him.

[@devonhayden797]

1:26 one frame of I’m an inventor

[@TexasDinoHunter]

“I-“

[@kngsvg8201]

Cracked me up😂😂😂

[@Hammaster]

8 frames

[@Notme8078]

I came here for that one moment 😂

[@M0b1us_118]

Well. There’s more once you realize that’s Wheeljack’s role for the Autobots.

[@pablocasas5906]

The thing with the Transformers the Movie's animation is that apparently, the producers gave Toei much more money that a traditionally Japanese animated featured needs so they actually hired help from some freelance animators which worked in famous mecha anime from the '80s, I think that's a reason why some of the animators managed to hide those easter eggs like recycling some shots from Fist of the North Star and Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam mechs in the Quintesson planet, and Toei managed to keep some of the budget to themselves and that helped with the production of the Saint Seiya anime adaptation which was a huge hit for Toei 7:25 this scene between Optimus and Megatron has become sort of a meme among Spanish-speaking fans because Optimus says to Megatron, "You are old Megatron. When I'm done with you, I'm going to sell you as scrap/junk", and Megatron responds, "Your grandma is a piece of junk!"

[@AngelMartinez-tx5ll]

*¡CHATARRA TU ABUELA!*

[@rodrigoa.oviedogarcia8139]

Optimus: "Ya estás viejo Megatron, te destruiré y te vendere como chatarra." Megatron: "Chatarra tu abuela."

[@alexvoid04]

CHATARRA TU ABUELA 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@chutas]

Chatarra tu abuela referenciaaaa💥🗣️🗣️

[@nickrustyson8124]

That sounds like one of those Absolute Nutcase SpongeBob comics, if you never seen them just search up dubs of them, unironically really funny

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Orson Welles should send harrowing wraiths to haunt everyone who ever made a fat joke about him while he carries on with whatever journey he’s on. He was a complex fascinating real one, & is the grandfather of indie films as well as a great actor-directer. Charles Laughton & Ida Lupino are his only equals of that type from the era. Everything Orson Welles touched was interesting. His "F for Fake” is on YT for free & one of my favourite films ever.

[@DavidKingTaken]

You've outdone yourself, this is probably the best Transformers related content you've made

[@danieldavenport-grosse6331]

26:00 "SCIENTIFIC GOBBILDYGOOK!" easily my favorite Megatron quote

[@Wariolosesfaithinhumanity]

Same lol

[@p.c8281]

you gotta be kidding me, i’ve been waiting for this guy to release a video for two months, and when he does it’s an hour and a half long? Merry fkng christmas to me

[@p.c8281]

and also just in time for breakfast, nice

[@abosier]

My personal theory is that there is something is soothing about Optimus' voice. Peter Cullen narrates a segment for the Calm App where Optimus Prime shares a rather dull story about watching a drive-in movie. He just makes you feel cozy and warm and loved.

[@occam7382]

If you have a link to that, please share it.

[@abosier]

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[@randomdragon1548]

​@occam7382 Fairly sure links get comments deleted, but if you search "transformers sleep story" it's the first result that comes up; "Transformers Lore - Sleep Story | Peter Cullen" by the channel Imagine Images. Their other video titled "Talking wih Optimus Prime - Sleep Story | Peter Cullen" is the part 2. The rest of the channel uses AI voices, just so you're aware

[@Goobergal8705]

My favorite part of this movie will always be Spike's "Oh shit! What're we going to do now?" line.

[@GLASSB182]

That Transformers power metal theme is utterly so legit in performance, it measures up the the Goofy-Goober Rock version of "I Wanna Rock" in dedication.

[@Longshanks1690]

*YOU’VE GOT THE TOUCH!*

[@aidangordon2713]

*YOU GOT THE POWAAAAAH!*

[@aidangordon2713]

*YOU'VE GOT THE POWAAAAAAH!*

[@noahford8957]

YEAH

[@Captain-dragonfly406]

Diddy

[@davibrelazdealbuquerque5766]

*Guitar Solo*

[@salmanmahyuddin8384]

well. wasn't expecting the Zeta Gundam analogy. fun fact, some designs from Zeta appeared in the 86 movie as uh...corpses or sth. they're released in the same year after all

[@SNKYLAZYHOAR]

YES. Thank you! I think they were Rick Doms or Rick Dias. Such a weird crossover.

[@strikers1944]

​@@SNKYLAZYHOAR they were a kit bash of 4 mobile suits, Rick Dias, Galbaldy Beta, GMII and Gundam mk.II

[@markr8755]

Watched this movie in the theater when it came out with a couple of friends while we were high as hell. We were only 18-19 years old and fans of the show. We all were in shock when main characters started dying off. It was so hard not to laugh when we heard children crying when Optimus died. Again, we were only 18-19 years old at the time.

[@APotatoMan]

Rodimus would have been so cool if he was introduced in a different way. I hope he gets a second chance in a future transformers project. It’s cool to see a prime other than Optimus.

[@ObiWahnKnobi]

I don't think there is a realistic chance for that - the character is burnt. A different Prime, introduced better would have a chance, but I honestly believe that Rodimus will never make a return.

[@mammadragon8108]

Honestly, read the MTMTE IDW Comics. They do his character really well there

[@misterzygarde6431]

I agree. Personally I think they should’ve had Optimus survive the movie but realizing his mortality sets out to find a successor if he falls. Hell, given how the movie’s killing of characters came off as contradicting the first two seasons, they could’ve had Wreck-Gar leading an army of Junkions and resurrected Autobots in the climax. Have Optimus and many of the original cast that were meant to die simply leave to rebuild Cybertron with Optimus content to know the future is in good hands with Rodimus.

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@mammadragon8108 IDW had a lot of other issues. (Lot of weird pairing of bug transformers with small ones in a very "post-70s pop culture greek" way. But they're pretty good though I hear they start to stumble towards the end.)

[@Andyjoe522]

Cyberverse season 3.

[@ryanstromberg9106]

Transformers: The Movie defined my college life. Every Wednesday morning my roommate and I would listen to the Transformers: The Movie: the Soundtrack before going to classes, a weekly ritual dubbed "Autobot Sunday." Dare made the soul crushing day-to-day of ROTC more manageable. Stan Bush put his whole heart, soul, spleen, and left kidney into making music for the silly robot show for reasons I could never fathom. So, thanks for highlighting the soundtrack, it hits harder than Megatron gunning down my childhood icon.

[@AceFalken]

It gets hard telling people that didn't grow up without watching G1 why it was so fun and good. It's goofy but can also pull off stuff that modern television struggles to do because it wasn't some cookie cutter what i learned in school writing that's been cleansed by an executive team. I hope transformers continues to live and get better over time like godzilla has.

[@Saturn2888]

I'd seen the Transformers show as a kid. I was born in '86, so it was on TV, but most of my Transformers was from watching Beast Wars when it first aired. That was an incredibly good series with janky animation! I rewatched it a few years ago (at 1.5x) and loved every minute! I first watched the UHD Blu-ray last year with my then 5 year old. What an incredible experience! Bright colors, great animation, great sound design, and the HDR was worth it! I even bought the album! It's soooo 80s. It's what you'd show someone if you wanted to say "this is 80s music". I never knew about Rodimus Prime. I'm assuming the Transformers show I saw as a kid was all re-runs of season 1 and 2 because Optimus was there.