8 Grandmasters Together Play against Alfazero (4000 elo) | chess strategy | Alphazero vs GM | Levy

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[@vietnguyenhoang5795]

"Openings doesn't really matter if your opponent is weaker than you" That's a strong one stockfish

[@cedricleeakadominic]

because chess speaks for itself - Hans

[@scottwarren4998]

PLEASE PEOPLE, LIKE THIS COMMENT SO WE GET TO SEE THE 4 BEST MATCHES IN THE WHOLE HISTORY !!! Create a game where Stockfisch 15 FACE THE NEW VERSION OF ALFAZERO. Then NEW ALFA FACE NEW ALFA. Then STOCKFISCH 15 FACE STOCKFISCH 15. Play 4 matches, 1 where ALFA is black, 1 where STOCKFISCH 15 is white. All 4 matches shall have this opening: playing this out out: white pawn to e4, black pawn to e5, white knight to f3, black knight to c6, black pawn to a6, white bishop to a5, black knight to f6.

[@TaiLand72]

no way, bro is spitting the facts despite being only 16 years old. 🗿

[@НиколайБухаров-д5н]

Дебьют ваще не важный элемент, если знаешь на цровне любителей то этого достаточно, потому что шахматы это сильный эндшпиль

[@aungphyoe4649]

Spitting facts.

[@JesusisSalvation77]

8 players against Hans that doesn’t seem very fair 😅

[@danradman3161]

Good one !

[@simonw.2403]

gotta make it 10 to make it even i think

[@Xiferfos]

Very bad way to get likes

[@olie567]

cope

[@nbchannel9035]

hans did not cheat.he just make good moves

[@MarsMatters]

"And in this position, Hans was once again the only player to find the correct move"

[@deejayf69]

Who is Hans?

[@linkzelda9595]

@@deejayf69 a chess cheater I think

[@scruffy5812]

@@linkzelda9595 no I think he’s a Southern vibrator enthusiast

[@Nico-fv1do]

​@@deejayf69his Name is Hans Niemann and He cheated several times in online games but also seemingly against magnus in a real life game

[@kenaz-2536]

@@linkzelda9595 how do you cheat in chess?

[@thenormalyears]

you know why you never see Hans and alfa in the same room? the same reason you never see bruce Wayne and batman

[@c99kfm]

@maxb krab ...this is probably me getting r/woosh'ed, but you do know that is basically how most chess players prepare and train?

[@Eis_]

Except Batman isn't up inside Bruce's arse.

[@olie567]

cope

[@feliscorax]

He’s not the GM we deserve; he’s the GM we need right now.

[@timothymcbride5092]

Alpha is actually Hans in costume.

[@Kristofur77]

Alphazero is so patient, I don't think 20 grandmasters can beat him. Alpha processes too many calculations ahead, the group definitely extended the game more than 1 player: but he was kinda of playing himself by giving humans what he considers best move.

[@Takshiro]

Yes

[@EnigmaChess]

this isn't alphazero, that's a Google program that runs on servers not computers

[@s.s7337]

Humans had to find those best moves though

[@magdakee]

It was not humans tho, this was not real. They never played.

[@rickrick5041]

@@s.s7337 It’s humans running on a Google server with a gold platform outdoors

[@hp7639]

The most impressive thing about this game is the 8 Gm's weren't check mated sooner.

[@VL_MiX]

They didn't play :) It's made up, assumptions - fantasy

[@laurencechien]

More isn’t better

[@totallynotclickbait6114]

@@laurencechiendepending on the context it could be

[@eget4144]

@@VL_MiX are these stockfish videos real or made up?

[@VL_MiX]

@@eget4144 stated, written: "CHESS VARIATIONAL Game" - it is which moves people prefer (GM) and which moves computers prefer (SF)

[@johansavage7364]

Suggestion: Rather than the 'best' move being played for the GMs (which Stockfish determines), instead the most selected move should be the one played. In the event of a tie, the computer will then play the best move in that case.

[@scottwarren4998]

that's a good idea, but it feels like the selected move will be worse than the move that computer says is the best move. but, yeah, why not try your idea.

[@hp7639]

I think with a rating that high from SF the best move is the best move. Not playing the best move will show how more superior SF is at crushing 8 Gm's. The game ended with SF being up 14 points. It might be 23 if best moves aren't selected (if unqueened pawns are made queens). Congrats to the GM's for not getting check mated in middle game like 99.99% of us would be.

[@CharcoalBlasterdog]

@@scottwarren4998 uhh...yeah. the human will choose worse move than computer. we all know this

[@scottwarren4998]

@@CharcoalBlasterdog What you say, thats not 100 % certain. Can you prove 100% that it is like that for every move, for every match? No, you can't. that's why it is worth a shot to try his idea.

[@CharcoalBlasterdog]

@@scottwarren4998 no, nothing is 100% certain

[@lowhplowhp]

Stockfish: is a chess god Also stockfish: can’t differentiate between f and ph

[@Johnsson25]

Mmm, new record of Hans - 8 strongest GMs. Bravo!

[@coxscorner]

All they need is one grandmaster, Hans Niemann armed with Stockfish.

[@kitrichardson2165]

😅

[@ryannewby4061]

"knight is very powerful, like a strong girl" Good one Stockfish

[@BestChessChannel]

5:00 Don't forget to solve the Puzzle. Let me show you IQ.

[@d4rkne9s97]

Move bishop and its done, now give my iq, i have 80, i want plus 30

[@oynex9997]

I think its bishop to d5

[@street4862]

bg6 if pawn capture g6 then Qg7 checkmate this work or not Bh7 Kf8 then Qh8 checkmate

[@GauravGamer9]

5:13 Puzzle is actually mate in 22 it took me 7 min to solve first Bh7 King have to take or check mate so king takes on h7 than queen takes on e6 pawn can't take as it is pinned so black can play Queen f8 to prevent mate so black play Qf8 than rook takes on f7 Qg7 after that you dont have to take queen with rook you have to play b takes on C3 than b3 than d7 rook g8 rook takes on g7(rook takes queen) king takes rook than qxb3 than king f6 qb6(check) King e7 than queen b4 or c5 (b4 is better) check than king e8 than queen takes on f8 (check) and after that Black has nothing but a king and 2 pawn white can easily mate him

[@jameskhan2740]

I think BG6 white move

[@ahmadrezamoradpour9194]

It was a very good game for humans. I didn't expect such a close game.

[@dreddscott3873]

But ultimately, Hans stood victorious.

[@virginiosalvi430]

Not a game of humans. Just bots, artificial intelligence that plays the way that GM is supposed to

[@Greatermaxim]

I did. Chess is very balanced and symmetrical. It is the middle game that proves how good one ultimately is at Chess.

[@SzultanSzultan]

I expected a draw, because if they make a faluire from 5 or 8 person, than they can move their best move if somebody finds better move.

[@doowop25]

Incredible! For years I've thought that they should create a match with the top chess players against the top engine and the moves that they make would be based on votes. Glad to see that they've actually done this. Give or take a couple of other players in the lineup such as Wesley So and Ding Liren, this was probably the best chance at the humans beating the machine. I wonder what the time controls were.

[@xeofreestyler]

These weren't the actual humans. Just bots that were modeled after their games.

[@doowop25]

@@xeofreestyler Oh wow, I didn't know that. I wonder how closely a bot can really mimic the play of a real human. Not just their opening prep and their playing style.

[@xeofreestyler]

@@doowop25 it depends on how the bot works. If it's made with an older, standard ab engine, it's very hard to make it play like a human. Because the way those worked was by using a relatively primitive brute force way of looking for moves. Humans don't evaluate positions with rules, there's a lot more intuition involved which is hard to mimic. This changed after AlphaZero was made. You see, AZ learns by playing itself. At first, it starts with a random neural network and plays mostly garbage moves. Then after playing itself a bunch of times it learns and changes it's network based on the wins it got. Then it repeats the process with the new network. That's how it becomes increasingly stronger and eventually plays phenomenal chess. Now, if instead of letting it play itself and feeding it those games, you just feed it games to learn from a certain player, you can create a network that approximates a human player. It'll never be exactly the same because a trained network is static and doesn't have the ability to come up with new ways of thinking on the spot, unlike s human. You also need a LOT of games, so it's easier to make an amalgamation of several players. I'm actually working on a game that'll have human-like chessbots. It's still in the early stages but it's already a lot more fun to play against because they can be outsmarted by tactics.

[@doowop25]

@@xeofreestyler Wow, very well explained! Thanks!

[@VL_MiX]

They didn't play :) It's made up, assumptions - fantasy

[@justingolden21]

Stockfish playing chess: 10/10 Stockfish animating a face and mouth to speak: not 10/10 Stockfish writing a script with valid English syntax: not 10/10 Stockfish reciting the correct moves without error: not 10/10 Stockfish making an entertaining and educational youtube video: yes

[@Claude1Rochon]

on the contrary and personnaly i think this is one of his best features....dramatic, exagerated and semi-erratic like an Old Silent Movies actor ( Stockfish animating a face and mouth to speak: not 10/10 )

[@Mishtiman]

Screwed up english!

[@cyslider888]

I long awaited something like this, but I don't like that the computer is the judge here. They should discuss/vote and agree on the best move without it. I want to know if we maybe like this still can find moves that are better than what the Computer calculates.

[@erimerdal1728]

I think the game would be much shorter without computer aid

[@harbhub]

We know objectively that humans can't find better moves than engines. We can't even find moves on par with engines for a full game. Engines are so much better than a collective of GMs.

[@tonybarfridge4369]

@@harbhub that's because they're programmed to cheat

[@hihunter7]

Exactly because if the computer ultimately decides, at the very best all they're doing is playing as well as the computer, but if none of them find the best move, they're worse. An agreement between all players on a move despite what the computer may say may lead the team to discover a brilliancy the computer missed and take an advantage. It's more unlikely they come out on top without the help of the engine, but it's also a better shot technically. I don't know I just agree it's a better and more fun way of playing; the unassisted power of the humans vs the omniscient calculator that is Stockfish.

[@AotO_DJ]

@@hihunter7 It is not a better shot, because if you find a brilliancy, the calculation of the engine will adapt after the gms have played it. And since it’s a brilliancy(engine has found it seconds after) it will be played. But it’s highly unlikely to find a brilliancy against Stockfish NNUE or AlphaZero.

[@jmj0795]

I kind of want to see 8 gms sit down and work together to try and match an engine level of depth

[@alexblejdea7233]

Would be an interesting event but I think they would get absolutely demolished

[@andrewscott7728]

@@alexblejdea7233 They could just give the engine less time to think.

[@Swarthy.]

I think an actual game between some strong bot against a bunch of grandmasters would be really interesting. I think the conversations they would be having would be great

[@przemeks3602]

Now I know, why Magnus is so strong...he is a subscriber. Hans must have some golden subscription in that case.

[@sarvenderrawat9069]

Without engines, Carlson is poor man's Karpov.

[@xaviermagnus8310]

Golden something... bzzzt bzzzt.

[@ventsislavstefanov9590]

@@sarvenderrawat9069 Cry more. If you think the other GMs aren’t using engines you’re extremely naive and stupid. Everyone uses the tools at their disposal in accordance with the time period they compete in. Magnus is just better at it.

[@poly_hexamethyl]

Wow, Alphazero still won, even though 1) there were 8 top GMs and 2) Alphazero helped them by picking the best of their moves for them. Computer chess has come a long way since Deep Blue!

[@magdakee]

Game never took place, this is a fantasy.

[@mikebevibevi]

"Your knight is very powerful, like a strong girl" Stockfish is obviously watching Rings of power and She-Hulk

[@joemoskovian339]

Stockfish you’re absolutely amazing. You explain all of your moves one by one and opponents moves as well. This is very educational. Thanks!!

[@trainerfrank9786]

Who decides what the best move is? Alpha Zero or Stockfish? In general I see one problem in that concept: The humans can never outplay the computer unless they all find the same strong move/series of moves in a position the computer does not understand.

[@FighterFlash]

The computer has a better picture of the game in 30 seconds than the human

[@TheNameOfJesus]

This style of video is ten years ahead of its time.

[@pedrosil77]

Congratulations to the GMs for not getting brutally mated in the middle game. I would expect this to happen. Very impressive.

[@BestChessChannel]

Fingers crossed!

[@magdakee]

This game did not actually happen.

[@ondrejmaca]

@@magdakee How do you know?

[@magdakee]

@@ondrejmaca i follow chess. These are bots playing against an AI

[@ondrejmaca]

@@magdakee Ok, so if I undestand right, this video and this chanel is fake?

[@claudiohoffmeister4324]

The move I suggest for the puzzle is Bh7 + , if king goes f8 then Qh8 is checkmate, so King takes Bishop, then White Queen takes black bishop since it is pinned by the Black Rook. Then White rook takes f7 .

[@BestChessChannel]

Right.

[@confusinglyquestionable4103]

Damn i had the same idea but i forgot pawn is pinned so i was so annoyed it doesn't work lmao

[@ohnoitssean7117]

What about if black queen goes to G8 after white queen takes bishop. Then this would result in the queen taking the rook after it takes the black pawn on F7

[@ohnoitssean7117]

@@BestChessChannel The puzzle is wrong as there is so many variations depending on what black does. White - BxH7 (check) Black - KxH7 White - QxE6 Black - QxG8 White - RxF7 (check) Black - QxF7 White - QxF7 (check) Black - KxH8 After a while I’m basically playing chess with myself as now the white queen has to chase the black rook away from the pawn that can potentially be promoted. At the same time black has a decent pawn structure and potential promotion too. This is no puzzle!! Please someone tell me I’m wrong with facts to back it up 🙏 I’ve checked other variations like BxG6 sacrifice but this only works if black takes the bishop and doesn’t cover with the queen. I can’t find a easy checkmate without black making incorrect moves.

[@ohnoitssean7117]

@@BestChessChannel this is really bugging me now lol I’ve been at this a while 🥲

[@DivisCan]

magnus played h4 because he is a stockfish subscriber 🤣

[@hihunter7]

I love Kramnik! He's my second favorite player of all time (Fischer) and easily a top 5 or at least borderline player of all time. Great great player

[@kingstorm7188]

Stockfish stay giving us the best content

[@donniem7979]

Wow I said four against 1, but you doubled that! Bravo!!

[@nasirulislam9586]

It's like ten Usain Bolts competing with Bugati Chriron in a 100 meter race.

[@ManuManu-ur9mx]

Stock,Can you share the name of bgm that played from 11:00

[@dinardinar2657]

What if the 10 grandmasters actually talked to each other between moves and come up with the next move together?

[@josephaziz785]

Beautiful. Stockfish says "phew--good thing I saw that double sacrifice!".

[@rayfinkle2805]

Surely between the 8 of them they could work out where the off switch is .

[@jaysamar79]

I think the answer to the puzzle is to move the bishop to h7 to deliver a check. If the black king runs to f8(only choice aside from capturing white's bishop) then just queen to h8 checkmate. If black decides to capture the bishop, then just capture the black's bishop with the queen, and I think black will suffer the same fate (black will lose the game).

[@BestChessChannel]

Yes, You're correct. Good Job.

[@jaysamar79]

@@BestChessChannel Thank you.

[@grobertoac2430]

How are you deciding how good a move is (to decide which of the GM move is played)? Using stockfish ?

[@TheInfinity2012]

Yeap cause he more then 1k rate above them

[@BestChessChannel]

Yes

[@grobertoac2430]

@@BestChessChannel alright, thank you for the answer !

[@scottwarren4998]

@@BestChessChannel why don't you use alfa-new version to choose what is the best for them?

[@scottwarren4998]

it is just to look at the bots moves' list. for example, number 3 is the bots 3rd best move.

[@ebrahimartang7732]

Watching Alpha zero games are so addictive! Thanks for preparing these videos for us!

[@BestChessChannel]

Glad you like them!

[@cod2tim943]

AlfaZero won the game because he was subscribed to Stockfish🗿🔥

[@traceler]

stockfish and lela are more powerful than alfazero.

[@kamarberrada4371]

@@traceler It’s not Alphazero playing. It could be Stockfish, Leela or even Komodo… Alphazero is weaker.

[@TheHyung_]

@@kamarberrada4371 This alphazero was made by stockfish itself.

[@petersagitarius4356]

Do you know, how these Super GM players are communicated, or chose final move ? There were some voting system for final move ? And what was time aspect in game ?

[@krishnaprabhakar526]

I am surprised that the 8 strong GMs couldn't find the best move ; the 'power off ' button of Alfazero !? 😄

[@Greatermaxim]

The Judge tells you disabling your opponent without their consent is illegal.

[@smokhe]

Where can I find more information about this game?

[@no-lagteardown3558]

Oh man, the endgame was really sad with the music. Its like a futuristic distopian movie where robots dominate human race xd :(

[@lukeadriano813]

Puzzle 1st way Rf7, Kf7 Bg6(check), Kg6 Qe6(check), Kh5 Pg4(check), Kh4 Qh6(checkmate) 2nd way Bh7(check), Kh7 Rf7 (check), Kh8 Qg7 (checkmate) 3rd way Bh7(check), Kh7 Qe6(pin), Kg8 Qf7(check), KH8 Qg7(checkmate) (20 min figuring it out) elo :1500

[@huseinmohammed3744]

yet again hans didn't surprise me atta boy

[@burnsmac4187]

Good stuff, mate. I enjoyed the video.

[@BestChessChannel]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Staarkalinou]

i think it starts with Bishop to H7, Black King must take back (escaping leads to mate in 1), then white queen wins the bishop, evening the piece count yet with offensive position

[@vincenthabay5109]

Every time that melancolic piano starts it sounds like the "bye bye humans"'s theme song

[@neproblema]

Будет забавно если окажется что движок выбирал в итоге ходы, которые хорошие, но удобнейшие для этого самого движка.

[@scottwarren4998]

@Iqbal- TI'19 your first post was: "Alfa vs alpha & stockfish" I wonder what the difference is between alfa and alpha in your head. is alpha for example google deep mind alpha? or is alpha the one that stockfisch 15 created?

[@Notir072]

Check with the bishop, then he has to take it with his king, then you take his bishop, he cant take back, he also can't do much, next move is check with tower, then mate with queen

[@melbenyromdom5064]

The strange 2 patches that does not make best for thinking on future Stockfish updates, is would be remove use classical depth condition, and removing unneeded randomization draw evaluations. The best is 20220817 since SPCC says 3814 rating, that would be a patch has the best. The option simplifying randomize draw evaluation have more losses this patch, with 704808 games played with a likelihood ratio of 2.94 (accepted) with 191212 wins, and 191680 losses, with -0.33 rating for removing an unneeded randomization of evaluations. After this update comparison (20220917, to 20220927), on SPCC, was a very strange result from this patch, in 20220917, 3806 rating, and +28 rating on regression tests has the best run. In 20220927 from now, 3804 rating, and +20 rating on regression tests on this patch. Hashfull output simplification has being a problem, and simplify evasion scoring is not a problem on tests.

[@andywub]

during the periods of music, the chess speaks for itself

[@sean7271]

the move on the puzzle is move pawn to the 7th rank?

[@NoNAME-qi9tq]

Damn that was a damn good game! very good struggle!

[@BestChessChannel]

[@scottwarren4998]

@@BestChessChannel @Stockfisch Why can't the IBM-team and the Google deep mind-team and the stockfisch 15-team and the leelazero-team just work together to create the best chess-engine ever?

[@anantoshahriar9252]

@@scottwarren4998 yes bro...

[@david.mariano]

@@scottwarren4998 lol

[@erikasilva6154]

What is this "Alfazero" engine? The description of the video admits it's not Alpha Zero.

[@Unpug]

This is just absolutely insane

[@ZenGodXGaming]

What chess website r u using

[@SenorGato_XD]

Good job Hans 🐱👍

[@m__stop6606]

when i watch these game I feel I play at least this good too, but my rating is a bit too low to tell me not. Can the ratings system be wrong?

[@BestChessChannel]

Rating doesn't matter if you Believe in yourself and Never give up while you do chess practice.

[@Redacted_Ruler]

This is like the avengers teaming up against thanos

[@doktorenko]

Hello, great content. But how was alphazero accessed for such a match?

[@melbenyromdom5064]

By me: I immediately paused the video and used timer at 3 minutes on device, and tried to find the best move. The vision wants Bh7+, instead of Bg6. He is 2 of 4 on paused videos on correct moves. The puzzle question is: Bh7+ is: Correct or wrong?

[@BestChessChannel]

It's correct.

[@JoKrone]

I wrote this comment before watching this video. Is there an original video with the grandmasters commenting on there moves?

[@hathor1985]

The combined 8 GM's don't need coaches, they have different play styles, so they play different moves.

[@arnejoppien]

The solution to your puzzle should be 1.Bh7+ Kxh7 (...Kf8 2.Qh8#) 2.Qxe6 Qf8 3.Rxf7+ Qxf7 4.Qxf7+ Kh8 5.d7, and White wins quickly, since the black pawn c3 can easily be stopped. (5...cxb2 6.Qf6+ Kh7 7.Qxb2; or 5...c2 6.Qe8+ Rxe8 6.dxe8Q+ Kg7 7.Qd7+ Kf6/g6 8.Qc6+ and 9.Qxc2). Surely Kasparow played 1.Bh7+ and 2.Qxe6, or hasn't he? Then I would much like to know how many moves were played between the 8 Grandmasters and Alphazero, can you also tell me that?

[@elumalaia1843]

Since we are taking Queen with check we can stop the opponent to take Queen by giving check ,check

[@GustavoGarcia-yy8cb]

Hans alone has the same odds as Stockfish vs Alphazero

[@camilocastillo7245]

Would be interesting all statistic of who was the GM who played the better moves according to the fish

[@webcrawler9782]

if only the "best move" of an engine is played, it's basically engine vs engine

[@MedenJern]

The engine decides which HUMAN move is the best, i dont understand how that is so hard to fathom

[@magdakee]

But it was never humans in the first place !

[@isaiahranderia3673]

How was this organized?

[@diytechtutorial429]

And that's how 8 generals died in a battle

[@mikhailkropotov5271]

Was the verbatim script generated by AI? I'm wondering how "repition" was allowed to happen.

[@OutsidePawn]

I believe if such a match ever happens, it would end in a draw

[@redguardplayer5712]

App name pls use in the video

[@TheDarkStar_Brawl]

Stockfish speaks for itself

[@hugondubel9808]

How do u setup this. I wanna play with my friends together vs a bot

[@chdueufuvxhxhcyb1558]

now just imagine how real Google deep mind alpha zero power is!!!

[@jackwilson5542]

It is still active? They could run it for few years on supercomputer to weak solve chess...

[@AhmedAli-nc1xr]

Puzzle: White - Bishop to BH7 Black - King take Bishop Kxh7 White - Queen take Bishop Qxe6

[@usptact]

Eight super GMs can’t keep up with Hans.

[@ep3230]

Can you place text outside the chessboard, so we can see all of the board

[@LjekarnaDajkovic]

AlphaZero rules

[@COTUONGHAY.]

Amazing bro❤ Quá hay ❤👍

[@ilikebeans3821]

Jesus loves you all so much

[@CriticalThinker114]

Creator is the creator of that prophet also. May Allah grant you hidayah. Amin ya Rabb.

[@voronnorov5175]

Can you pls say what app you use?

[@matthewsocoollike]

Yo stockfish. When you introduced the puzzle you didn’t say who’s turn it is. Idk if I’m playing as white or black

[@petersokol4506]

Based on the rules mentioned at the beginning, if there are different suggestions by the GMs, the better move should be played. In move 44 Be3 seems to be the top engine move. Once Re1 was played, even the evaluation bar in this very video drops by 1 point. I don't get, why this move was chosen over Be3.

[@MegaCharns]

because Kb7

[@juanpcb346]

Alucinante este canal. Lo acabo de descubrir. Me encanta!!!!!!

[@BestChessChannel]

Mil gracias!!

[@cedsgm9205]

The stockfish algorithm is the one to decide weather a move is the best or not

[@KillerKnight-b3p]

THANKS FISH FOR PROVIDING THESE COOL INSIGHTS PLEASE CONTINUE TO BLOW THREE THE POSITIONS AND REVEAL THE TRUTH!

[@Cosmic_Chronicles_]

Is it bg8?

[@manthansworldoftalent7279]

Nice commentary by Hans there...

[@hernandecaso]

Insifhtfull , didactic and funny. I would have enjoyed it more though even if the subtitles were not covering the board ...

[@LitoBoyboy]

whos voice behind you???

[@RRRenegade5]

I swear Stockfish talks like the robots that will takeover and have epic catchphrases while they imprison all of mankind

[@VK-pd8zz]

Simple way to win such is, 8 players should decide 8 different moves, and computer will play best among them. For example even if Vishy and Anish agree on same move, still Anish has to decide any other good move, such way 8 different moves, so possibility of playing engine like becomes high.

[@turanbirligi6969]

Alphazero isnt publicly released how you can use it for this

[@CalmaxFilm]

Does this match really happened ?

[@l.4723]

Are they on time pressure?

[@GlobalWarmingSkeptic]

The only way to beat these bots seems to be more closed positions. People always try to play too many open lines and these bots can calculate so many positions The only way to win seems to be to focus on very closed locked draw-like positions where the continuations are incalculable and it depends on positional judgment, not the result of open board moves and exchanges that can go on for 10+ moves, where the CPU knows every single combination.