8 YEAR OLD VAN NEEDS £13,000 ENGINE REPLACEMENT! 😩 2.0 BITDI CFCA Repair Costs Full Breakdown VW T5

It's hard to believe that an 8-year-old Volkswagen van with less than 100,000 miles already needs a replacement engine, but this is the unfortunate reality for many 2.0 BiTDI Transporter T5 and T6 owners.
In this video, we give a brief breakdown of the costs involved in replacing a CFCA with a brand new unit from VW!
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[@ScottandAlana4x4]

This video both crushes my soul but equally soothes it at the same time. The reason that it crushes my soul is that I know exactly how those owners feel about their vehicles. I bet, just like us with our Freelander 2 and Yeti, it's far, far more than just a vehicle. With the fact that they are willing to spend that much money goes to show that those VW's belong to people who see them as part of their life and not just something which can take them from A-to-B and are easily replaceable. So it crushes me that they are put into a position where they are somewhat forced to pay big money bills for no real fault of their own. Although it does sooth my soul knowing that there are car/van owners out there that are willing to put money into their pride and joy to keep it going rather than taking the easy route and joining this throw away society that we seem to live it. 😃 But also that companies like Darkside that will go above and beyond to keep this vehicles on the road. I can imagine if either of the owners were to take their Transporter to a random garage, they would probably be told to either scrap it, or the bill would be double, if not triple what you guys are charging. I think this video goes to show that Darkside is full of diesel-heads and not just another "get rich quick" garage that wants to fleece every customer that they see. 👌😃 - Scott

[@TheOffroader7458]

My t5.1 with the a 20tdi cca engine with 180000 miles still going strong

[@jasoneldridge4738]

When you add up what comes with a new engine ,it works out reasonable, latest egr valve -£1000, set of injectors -£2000 .

[@dalesmit7869]

Wow, Its almost like buying a brand new inkjet printer but when its time to replace the ink cartridges when the ink runs out, its cheaper to replace the printer.

[@jondonnelly3]

Get an Inktank/Megatank. Thank me later.

[@dalesmit7869]

@@jondonnelly3 😆

[@ahyaan2552]

Hp does this nonsense. Best to get an inktank or a brother printer, where it is easy to diy fill the cartridges.

[@AnilKumar-yn6ns]

2010 2.0 tdi transport shuttle taxi currently on 415,000 had 5 egr coolers 1 set of injectors 3 clutch flywheel still going strong

[@neildean7515]

How many timing belts/chains???

[@BollocksToThat]

I drove a 2020 Transit Custom for 2 years and literally not one thing went wrong on it. Drove like a charm, comfy and quick. These seem like a pain

[@richardhunt1384]

You were obviously lucky with the Wet Belt then.

[@Luckyjo21]

@@richardhunt1384 probably only drove it 20k miles in 2 years lol

[@BollocksToThat]

@Luckyjo21 no, I drove it 57,000 in two years. Why the negativity towards my comment?

[@AlanMacdougall-c2w]

@@BollocksToThat because transhits are crap thats why

[@s1mna]

between me and my mate we put 86k on a transit in 9 months,by the time it was 12 months old it needed a engine 😂

[@altypeRR]

It just goes to show that the German vehicle industries reputation is completely misplaced on modern vehicles. To have to replace the engine in an 8 year old van is criminal. To have to add the expense of all the extras needed on that T6 is just disgraceful. I know you guys are just doing the job but honestly VW should be held to account for this.

[@laurieproctor3572]

100%, the cost for the dpf, £3500, insane

[@Lizzard-t]

This just highlights something i never knew. Did relise thease engines suffer with high oil consumption. That's a big thank you from me. Thease are all over Devon and Cornwall like a bout of STD . Without garages like you thease would all end up on a eBay auction " Spares or repairs! "

[@peacepuffz]

Ruuning a mazda B5 carb engine since 1989 still going strong.

[@FredFox-m9v]

My Mazda MX5 is 20 years old now, garaged and well looked after. No rust, mechanically perfect. I also have a 17 year old Mercedes E Class diesel, same with that as well. I won't be swapping either of those cars for new ones.

[@peacepuffz]

@@FredFox-m9v No need the older cars are better & look way nicer. My 323 is my daily driver & I get crazy looks.

[@aaron___6014]

New stuff is ridiculous.

[@StephenHartleyBrundrett]

🤝👍

[@Ivc406]

Wow very informative my son has two caddy vans and a larger VW need to keep them up to date regarding servicing etc, glad I found this channel regards from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🎥🇬🇧

[@AJ-qn6gd]

I think I’ll keep my T5 pd ! Even though it’s got the dreaded oil light flicker it’ll never cost anything like that to correct.

[@TheBlaert]

Friend of mine bought a Caravelle as he has a big family and needed something 4wd with plenty of seats. It was an Executive or something, and like a 5 star hotel on wheels. But the week after he bought it the oil light came on. Over the next 3 weeks it went through 2 gallons of oil. The dealership were complete assholes about it. They took it back and "fixed" it twice but it still consumed alot of oil. They messed him around big style and he had to threaten legal action. Ended up returning it and eventually getting his money back. He was gutted because it was a fantastic bit of kit apart from the engine. Ended up buying a Tourneo

[@Hekkie]

I was thrilled when the biTDI came out. However, diesel engines with this much power/displacement often yield terrible reliability. The M550ds engine is another example. Bloody fast, but my god do they fail. They should’ve kept the good old 2.5 TDI in the Transporters. I loved ours so much. 470.000 kms on the clock when my father sold it. It got a new alternator at some point….and that was it I believe? The van around the engine wore away faster than the old lump itself 😂

[@DarksideDevelopments]

It's not the engine thats the issue it's the emissions control devices, this is usually the problem on all newer vehicles. The earlier 2.5's either didn't have DPF or had a very basic DPF and EGR system, start adding low pressure EGR, Adblue, secondary cats and 5 more sensors and it turns in to a nightmare if not well maintained.

[@Hekkie]

@@DarksideDevelopments Didn’t mention that, you’re absolutely right 👍 although I have read on mechanics forums about turbos blowing out gaskets and leaking oil (i.e. M550d), weak rod bearings and oil scraper rings getting stuck. But I suppose some of those failures can be induced by a malfunctioning/clogged EGR as well

[@jasoneldridge4738]

The issue was caused by the egr material ( alloy ),reacting to exhaust gases and turning into aluminium oxide ,which is basically grinding paste and then gets drawn into cylinders. They changed the material on the latest egr valves.

[@aaron___6014]

Forget the price. What's the cause of the engine failure? How can we avoid an engine replacement? If it failed under 100k why would it last 200k in the future?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Watch the other video we linked to...

[@djmusk6015]

The cfca is OK as long as you blank the egr cooler in time. Shame that so many vans die due to it.

[@simonfrench]

At least they hold their value. I sold my 2011 California 4 motion with 95000 miles from £32500 I only paid £45000 for it in 2011 never gave any problems.

[@701Adventures]

When did you sell it to get that price?

[@laurieproctor3572]

If you sold after Covid the prices were massively over egged due to the influx of people wanting campers. It was a black swan event. Anyone with any camper saw these increases regardless of brand. IF, you sold after Covid that is (would explain the high value or lack of drop)

[@davidbarker9043]

There's bag shit .run like a bus road sounds . Not smooth . Look like a box

[@brianmelial8885]

@DarksideDevelopments great video thanks for the info . Just wondering does the T6.1 engine's suffer this problem too ?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Not yet. a lot of t6's with a similar issue though!

[@majidradouane5346]

Hello and thank you for this very well explained work, please the timing of the crankshaft target is set to which place?, thank you

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Please email us - [e-mail]

[@johnrowell942]

Could you fit a 1.8 turbo petrol conversion instead? Would it be keep the cost down?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Anything is possible but 15mpg would be a downside!

[@brianmcintyre14]

What causes these failure's within 100k miles? Seems consistent, obvious design flaw surely?

[@-DC-]

EGR cooler failure leads to low compression.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Yes have a look at the other video which we link to in the video description 👍

[@stevensmith3061]

It would get a match to it before spending that much on an engine.

[@mnp3713]

Soo happy with my 2.4d might be low on power but not it runs for ever and swapping it will take a day and 1000pound

[@chrisdunbar9831]

Is it the egr cooler that causes this on this engine? Ifnso does new engine come with a revised verson now?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Yes and yes 👍

[@gomez7969]

I own a BITDI DSG 4x4 CXEC. At certain times, such as when climbing a mountain pass, the temperature rises to 130ºC. Do you think it would be essential to install an oil cooler? I change the oil every 15,000 km.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

I think its not a bad idea but you are changing the oil often so should be OK!

[@DavesDiscoveriesChannel]

Breaks my heart that they’ll be having those engines replaced again in 60-90k miles if the EGR isn’t blanked.

[@jasoneldridge4738]

The latest version of egr valve fitted to the new engine prevents it occurring again .

[@DavesDiscoveriesChannel]

@ they said that about the last two revisions 🫣

[@smartservices001]

make sure when you fit a genuine VW CFCA engine you torque down the already fitted injectors. they come loose!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Correct!!!!

[@JSB2500]

😱😱😱😱😱

[@Stillbusy105]

Vw genuine spares are crazy, just a cambelt & water pump kit was £350 quid these days :(

[@BarnRatsRustorations]

My 21 reg T6.1 has just needed a new Turbo and intercooler costing £4500 and its been driven gentle as i know they are rubbish , managed 57k miles and only 5 months out of warranty :(

[@rutgerburke7722]

But why not an overhaul job? Would that be cheaper?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

It's an option, many owners want the Volkswagen warranty that comes with the brand new unit.

[@philhodgson4752]

Ive neglected and abused my CAAA t5.1 from the day i bought it 6 years ago. I bought it with 90k on the clock its now on over 130k and most of those 40k were after it was mapped to over 160bhp and its never gone wrong. The BiTDi engine is one of the worst vw has ever had.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

The CAAx were definitely one of the most reliable 👍 The CFCA engine is almost identical in terms of base engine it was just the EGR cooler issue that let it down.

[@thebrowns5337]

While there is clearly some blame for VW the way people drive is also a factor in these faults. Look up average journey distance in the UK - you will be shocked. Basically large diesel engine are not even getting warm and are getting no time to complete regens. Sometimes vans are left idling too which is another no-no. Most users would be better off with a petrol... but VW don't sell those in the UK (in vans) any more and when they did the government incentivised diesel over petrol. In reality the average journey we see only really suits an EV but we allsee the hatred for those and they aren't great for longer runs at the minute.

[@philhodgson4752]

​In truth, egr issues have plagued most iterations of cr engine, but like you say, only the cfca suffer with particle degradation entering the oiling systems and destroying the engine components from within. The egr issues ive had are miniscule by comparison with the biggest issue being, having to run adaptations via vagcom after fitting a new egr. Such a shame that vw seem to have such a poor reputation with their engines in general. I owned a 6r polo gti at one point and the engine grenaded itself with 23k on the clock. ​@@DarksideDevelopments

[@thebrowns5337]

Meanwhile take a look at the 'glamour' converters who charge £100k for a second hand Kombi with big alloys and a plastic body kit... they favour the 204. Absolutley nuts people buy them. You could get a new California and a jet-ski!

[@stevenchilvers]

I had a 5.1 and traded it in to a main dealer as soon as the oil consumption increased. Have you ever considered other engine options for replacements?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We have a different EGR system available which eliminates this issue.

[@daveworthing2294]

Are you able to do work on a crafter? 2014.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Of course!

[@LizzyFerretOfficial]

Genuine Q: if reconditioned Turbos are ok, why not a reconditioned engine? Or is it the case the CFCA engines are usually that knackered when they go that they can’t be reconditioned?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

VW Warranty!

[@StephenHartleyBrundrett]

I'd be swapping it for a t4

[@richardhunt1384]

So are you fitting the same engine code/ model ie CFCA or a different model?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Same engine with latest revision EGR cooler to eliminate the issue.

[@jamesdewar-mills1105]

I replaced my egr with the pirberg unit bought from yourselfs. I changed it before i had any problems and i still dont, but am i just buying time or should i blank it off to be safe?​@DarksideDevelopments

[@jasoneldridge4738]

£13,000 ?,the actual base engine from Vw is under £4K ,apart from the Cat/Dpf which should be replaced at the same time ,it sounds a bit steep !,

[@DarksideDevelopments]

As mentioned in the video, we make very little on these conversions, the genuine parts soon add up of you want to do this right.

[@urbanarkoverland]

New fear unlocked 💔

[@Black-Sheep-Bikes]

Sorry the new engine from VW cost 4k plus vat comes with injectors but doesn’t come timed up with a new belt and water pump?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Correct, the injectors are not torqued down either!!

[@Black-Sheep-Bikes]

@ flipping heck that’s nuts.

[@StickyBaldieAdrian]

In Australia, CFCA engine currently have my EGR cooler with insufficient flow. Going to get it replaced and blanked off. Computer remap to solve warning light. Can the DPG filter remain working as normal or should it be removed as well?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

The DPF is likely to block if EGR is removed and there are faults preventing regen, we wouldn't advise removing as this is illegal.

[@StickyBaldieAdrian]

@@DarksideDevelopments thanks for the advice, there is a good chance I will be ordering some of your stuff to ship here if I can't find it locally. Totally understand legality of removing emissions equipment.

[@andykonkol]

my BNZ cost over £10k for my engine after a waterpump failure and flooded the engine

[@FredFox-m9v]

I have a 70 reg Fiat Talento lwb campervan. It recently needed some minorish mechanical work doing. I said to my mechanic is Volkswagen so much better in reflection of the large price difference. He said not wanting to insult me but yes they are. Watching your video shows me that it seems like all newish vans from all marques are a all a bag if sh1te these days. It seems that they are all made using computer aided design to fail outside warranty to provide income for manufacturers on a repeat basis.

[@BlandNutz]

And people say the 2.5 is expensive to fix lol

[@gregroles69]

it is, until you know what you are doing, and few people outside EU do!!

[@limekilnfarm9657]

Did the new engine come with the new EGR/cooler assembly ?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Yes, comes with the revision D cooler

[@limekilnfarm9657]

@ That ain’t a bad deal really for the engine is it? I’ve messed up here. Already done oversized pistons and bearings etc. now realised the valves and guides are worn🫣. Trying to find a solution that’s not a Chinese head replacement!

[@neilg3364]

Great British Labour rate. No one wipes their arse for less than £100 an hour.

[@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491]

This comment made me laugh but it's true 😂

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Talk to the people taxing us to death, not much profit at £75/hr...

[@TC-V8]

When main dealers are charging £250 an hour - £100 seems good value!!

[@sm400]

Back in about 2004ish I put a conrod,piston and cylinder head on a 2.5 tdi transporter....managed to get the pieces of broken valve seat out of the turbo....its still going now....I'm no longer in the Uk but it's still going😂😂😂😂

[@thebrowns5337]

​@@TC-V8 where are you going for that?! Even my VW main dealer 'only' charges £140 per hour (for some school drop out that causes more issues than they fix).

[@mechtechmechanical1571]

save your money and buy and old transit

[@StephenHartleyBrundrett]

I have both & I'd suggest buying both although I've had to buy a welder for the transit

[@alaindunkerque59]

Belle vidéo 👍 😉

[@SCOTTDIESELCRAZY]

Why don’t people put a PD 150 in the van trouble free

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Some do 👍

[@Cous1nJack]

Trouble free pd150. Tell that to the rounded cams

[@JSB2500]

​​@@Cous1nJackChanging a TDI camshaft and followers is a quick and easy job IMO. Be sure to use the Darkside reusable injector rocker arm bolts, and torque them exactly (44 Nm). (You can identify that these bolts are fitted by the fact they have hex heads rather than splined ones). All good! 🙂

[@shanewaller2864]

Hi Guys i have a 2022 204 dsg highline lwb FWD, ive had it since new and have serviced it 3 times in 30,000 miles .what can i do now to prevent this from happening. I have no intention of selling our van service it every 10,000 miles regardless. I dont use it for short journeys only trips of over 100 miles or more. I only use shell fuel but only occasionally use V power. Is it worth using it more regularly.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

You don't need to worry about this particular issue as it's specific to CFCA engine code. That said I'm sure there will be some problems that start to show over time, avoiding the longlife service intervals helps!

[@jozeskufca2255]

Change oil on 10000 km and it will work and by normal one turbo engine

[@rogerwoods1351]

I've got this engine in a T5.1 t32 59900 miles,,,,,,,should I start worrying ?😕😕😢

[@mickrobo6073]

No ….if it’s got regular oil change and been service well,, mines got 157000 on still going strong not burning oil 2013 model 2 Lr. transporters will easily do 200,000 without major issues. change your water pump timing belt approximately 40,000 miles

[@Tommytucker1216]

​@@mickrobo6073unsaid 400000 two comments ago

[@rogerwoods1351]

@@mickrobo6073 thanks for your input, I do have it serviced and oil changed regularly so hopefully you're right

[@mickrobo6073]

@@rogerwoods1351 my pleasure you research mate loads on KZbin on transporters doing good big miles !…ok with regular oil change about every 10,000 mile don’t listen to the negativity on here. ,, if you listen to the end ! of the video he actually says this should be okay for at least another 200,000 mile ? so what does that suggest? .. It previously had bad service on its engine .,?VW transporters got a big following ,,good engines that’s why they hold the price well ,,lotta jealous Ford transit owners. with the wet belt 😂lol.

[@rogerwoods1351]

@@mickrobo6073 I'll keep up the servicing and oil changes , hope to get those big miles out of it as was the case with my t5

[@ShalomBrother]

Is there any similarities with this engine and the DAVA in my TGE?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

It's the EGR cooler thats the main issue on these and it was only ever installed on the CFCA engine code.

[@keanMechanic]

Wouldn’t your oil cooler “ revision” invalidate VW’s warranty? So why bother with the rest of the TPI that comes with the engine fitment?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

takes 1hr to remove it.

[@keanMechanic]

@ remove what?

[@neildean7515]

You dont mention What do you think killed these engines.. is it as i suspect its lack of regular maintenance??? (Basics of oil, filters (air, fuel and oil) or is it that they are used as daily drivers and bot getting a good daily run.. (esp Diesels)..

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Look at the other video regarding the CFCA, It's the EGR cooler passing aluminium particles in to the cylinders.

[@gardenogauge]

Are the costs similar for the CXEB?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Similar work involved but the base engine is slightly more expensive.

[@paulbrook2459]

Thanks for this video , everyone thinks these vans are reliable ? But in my experience “they’re not” I’ve got a t6 204 bhp auto 2018 model with 90 k on the clock . I’ve spent £7500 in the last year on oil leaks both sides of the engine , power steering pump the list goes on ! Great van to drive but is it worth it ?? Would I be better getting rid ??

[@DarksideDevelopments]

That's up to you!

[@laurieproctor3572]

Looking at the video, you could spend all that and then have an engine failure. It freaks me out when you can be only moments away from a 10-15k bill. I prefer older stuff for this reason, at least if you get a bill of this magnitude you can choose to scrap it or sell it for bits. Same with any of the RS model Audis etc. But I’m fine driving older crusty stuff 😁

[@paulbrook2459]

@@laurieproctor3572 you’re wise ! I think I’m going back to a old crusty Toyota Hi ace ! I paid £2,500 for my last one owned it for 5 Years with 246k miles and not one thing ever went wrong , then sold it for £2.300 🤔 I think it’s all new vans with dpf systems on are crap and they will all fail ! The cost of a repair is now the same price as a old van ! The maths don’t work to buy new and newer van!

[@laurieproctor3572]

@ 100% agreed Paul, I’ve had the same 2 vehicles. The old dog that Keeps on giving and the new shiny toy that seems to be an absolute pig. Even though you do your due diligence and try and pick a safe bet! My only conclusion is simplicity is key. And plenty of space in the engine bay to work around stuff! I hate dpf and all modern eco systems. 95% of issues are see in modern vehicles are related to these.

[@RS6-s2e]

That’s mental those engines are bulletproof sumthing fishy going on there 😅

[@mcjjordan]

I think if my engine did that - someone may steal the van for parts.

[@Tmp205]

Yup, if it happens, it’s almost worth having a crash

[@thebrowns5337]

And thats why we all see insurance price increase every year... fraud.

[@dannydodd8146]

What actually fails to use that much oil, rings?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

the bores are oversized due to the aluminium oxide contamination.

[@stevencooper6593]

How do u know if your van has that engine Thanks

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Check the engine code on the cambelt cover.

[@stevencooper6593]

Sweet

[@bllxy8226]

Is the 1.6tdi DDYA engine any good 2017 for the transporter

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Do they even make that?

[@SAMPRIEST-e7j]

Modern VW’s are good choice if you’ve got enough cash to trade in every 3 years or when the warranty runs out. Sure the warranties used to be longer. Don’t blame people for choosing them as the body styling ,as with the other German makes is a cut above, pity the other bits aren’t as reliable. Buying them out of warranty/more than 4 years old and get ready to have your wallet on quick release. Long life oil is a scam too. Former Tiguan owner

[@mrAudisubaru]

So the old T5 2.5 weren"t that bad after all have a 174 with a remap still going strong at 600 000km

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Great engines if they're well maintained 👍

[@Cous1nJack]

Try and buy one of that age for 13k. The maths still works.

[@Bu115y]

Volkswagen should be f . . . well ashamed that they continued to use this same EGR cooler for as long as they have, knowing it causes these issues.

[@depthofshine]

Not great and wait for new transporter, wet belt joy, our caddy had to have new mass flywheel at 40k, with these costs the ID Buzz is looking a good option and even new one with twin motors and the only real issues battery pack but 1000's of id cars with 77kw battery packs and should be available on used market.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Electric, errrrh.

[@FredFox-m9v]

As well as my ice vehicles, I also have an 8 3/4 year old EV. 42% degradation now after only circa 40 k miles. Never again ! All batteries degrade with time and use cycles, all.

[@tunintunin3417]

I think it is an intentional flaw by VW.

[@mcjjordan]

How much is a tesla conversion?

[@gregroles69]

Lots of money and you must hand in your testicles.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Transporter HQ started one, not seen an update for a while though.

[@mcjjordan]

Ive seen one done tesla_ transporter

[@deeeeeeeench1209]

Can get 2 engines fitted for that money and still have spare change to fill up on any ford transit lol

[@DarksideDevelopments]

but you will need 3 or 4!

[@deeeeeeeench1209]

@DarksideDevelopments have 1 older and more miles, way more on original running gear dpf and egr only serviced parts

[@buggerlugz6753]

Great advert for the reliability of Transporter TDI engines!!! NOT.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

The engine isn't the issue, it's the EGR cooler. The same base engine is used accross many Volkswagen platform vehicles and well easily achieve 200k +

[@StickyBaldieAdrian]

Just about to hit 200k on my van and the EGR cooler has only just come as an issue with it blocking up. After 6 years of ownership (second owner) this has been the most reliable car I've ever owned.

[@thebrowns5337]

​@@StickyBaldieAdrian it depends how you use it. Some people daily a 204 bus just for the school run and wonder why they get issues.

[@michaelrichmond3137]

What risks does my T6 TSi camper hold in it's future ? The petrols are reliable right ?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Slight risk to the bank account with the fuel bills 😂

[@TESTA-CC]

Go and Buy a Mercedes Vito With That £13,000 instead.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

They have their own problems if you buy the wrong model.

[@gimmegaming5345]

Would it not be worth rebuilding these engines?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

It's an option but many owners want the Volkswagen warranty

[@gimmegaming5345]

@@DarksideDevelopments Out of curiousity, how much would the price difference be? I'd expect if your dpf is fine this would be a viable option.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We did one and it was about £1500 cheaper in the end and we had a few days waiting for parts to come back so its not worth the aggro.

[@gimmegaming5345]

@@DarksideDevelopments Yea for that difference it wouldn't be worth the hassle.

[@EagerMrd]

anyone who spends 2k on a dpf instead of gutting it and doing a delete and map smokes crack, any mechanic who doesn’t recommend dpf gut and delete is a thief. Have a nice day. This is a 3k job

[@DarksideDevelopments]

There is no VW warranty if you don't replace the DPF and getting an MOT with one removed is almost impossible nowadays. Send us your details and we will send you £3000 every time you rebuild one for us!

[@EagerMrd]

lol, a dpf can be gutted and it won’t be obvious. Emissions tests are fine with the dpf empty. As far as the warranty is concerned who cares, it doesn’t make up for the 13k dent.

[@vern453]

New vehicles are shite. To much to go wrong. Quality of materials poor. Build quality poor. Says a owner of a 22year vw t4 tdi with 150k and drives like the day i bought it ❤❤❤

[@Monty-kr7py]

To be completely honest , why buy the Bitdi , it is a £12000 lottery , the only people who comment saying "its great" mines been fine are trying to prop the prices up on them , the 150bhp comes with it's own problems but the failures are rare , for a bit more power which in itself is laughable because it's a van just makes no sense

[@davetalton6939]

Isn’t that what we buy any car is for??

[@ryanthomas1510]

A lot of people bought these during COVID when every man and his dog went campervan crazy and camper conversion businesses were popping up every day! And back then the prices were ridiculous like £30/£40k for a converted builders van! If you typed that reg plate into we buy any car they would price it as an old builders van and if you had finance on it you would be paying them to take it off your hands!

[@lesklower7281]

No wonder in Australia why these are a rare sight and at only a 150000 kilometres when you need to replace at the cost of £13000 and convert that into Australia dollars these are Avery expensive propersition and l can understand why the biggest selling van by far is the Toyota Hiace and now Australia Post are using Toyota Hiaces and they are replacing the Renault vans although there are Kia and Hyundai vans available but the Hiace outsells any other van in Australia and Toyota's out sell any other car brand and that not for a couple of years fot the past 25 years and there the only other car brand that can take number one spot is Mazda but there are very few Mazda vans driving around and there are more Hiluxes driving around than the BT50 and Amy were in Australia you are never to far from a Toyota and that includes me because l own a 1997 Toyota Hilux that has done only 439000 kilometres

[@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491]

These Transporters seem to be as bad as the JLR ingenium model ranges!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

This particular EGR issue was up there with the best of them.

[@matthewrlawton57]

Be cheaper to do RS3 conversion 😅

[@DarksideDevelopments]

I doubt that but it wont be double!

[@Pr0vost]

All worth it to rock some Bola alloys and a VeeDubzzz sticker

[@michaelmccormick9469]

Holy sh1t!!!! Have you had to do anything with the T6.1 biTurbo, or is it a different engine???? Asking for a friend…… 🤦‍♂️

[@DarksideDevelopments]

The 2017 models had a piston ring issue, we've already had a few CXEB engine swaps through the workshop.

[@bensalmon7544]

Why not rebuild the engine instead?

[@grahamrobson9292]

They don’t want to do it they did one and said never again

[@DarksideDevelopments]

It's possible but most owners want the VW warranty.

[@Billybong256]

So what you’re saying is buy a Ford Transit ?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Thats exactly what the new Transporter is, we'll soon find out how reliable they are 😂

[@Monty-kr7py]

Buy the 150

[@Y123_TCS]

yeah that biturbo engine is shockingly bad

[@AlanMacdougall-c2w]

why replace a crap engine with the same crap engine? why not go for the 150hp single turbo

[@AlanMacdougall-c2w]

@@jabberwockytdi8901 rather you than me mate. lot more than the EGR at fault, check the darkside video slating them as the worst engine vw have produced

[@Monty-kr7py]

​@@jabberwockytdi8901Buy yourself a decent car if you want to go fast, it's a van, you could have 300hp and it would still be a box on wheels , map the single turbo and sleep at night

[@Monty-kr7py]

​@AlanMacdougall-c2w Completely agree ,whole Bitdi idea is flawed , more power needing more fuel leading to more emission controls to stifle it ,wake up people it's a van 😂

[@christopherings3489]

box of matches job 😬😬😬😬😬

[@michaelgoodwin593]

May as well do a GTD conversion if youre going in with that amount of money. jesus wept

[@alicanyazgan]

I wouldnt bother the fixing it

[@defcondazz]

Dark side charge a lot don’t forget that 🤣

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Dealers are £130 per hour

[@thebrowns5337]

​@@DarksideDevelopments VW main dealer near us is £140/hour. They are rubbish too - just break stuff off rather than remove it carefully. I refuse to use them now.

[@llisntcoolj2375]

Transporters are probably the most over rated vehicle in the U.K today, total money pits😂

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Usually a love hate relationship.

[@llisntcoolj2375]

@DarksideDevelopments absolutely. I've a t4 sat on my drive with a seized engine. Too much in it to sell for scrap🥴😆

[@robertwells1989]

Some good ones some bad ones. Luckily mine falls into former category. 2.5 AXD BNZ, owned since 2008, she's a keeper. When you factor depreciation costs in, that gives me quite a maintenance budget. Better the devil you know for me.

[@robbie7298]

Buy a T5

[@scotspie501douglas7]

wow wow wow £75.00 per hour labour charges motor trade are just crazy rates and i,m sure the mechanics are on £20 per hour every repair that goes in to a garage is a fortune and thats not even a wet belt issue is there any car that is good to own you tube is full off issues on cars vans why would you buy a VW after watching this video

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Go rent a unit, fill it with gear, pay even minimum wage and see how much you need to charge to make money, £75 is nothing compared to the £130+++ dealer costs!!

[@martinholland2713]

WTF!!??!! ❤❤😂😂😮😮

[@martinholland2713]

Pd it??

[@pablopanayi8625]

Don't be a sheep and buy a transporter, they're a load of shite !!!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Many owners would say otherwise.

[@pablopanayi8625]

@@DarksideDevelopments Yes, they are the sheep that have followed into the dub scene with the vans. Would anyone spent that kind of money on a motor for a car.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

at least 1 a week!

[@pablopanayi8625]

@@DarksideDevelopments Lol, you know the score then ! I have a T5 caravelle TDI BPC engine and that has been a money pit however to even things out I have a 2110 cc gt beetle !

[@thebrowns5337]

It's all relative. Resale values need to be considered.

[@Coordinator61]

These vans are total sheit on wheels.

[@bryzot7242]

VW 😂😂😂 bought by people that haven't spoken to garages first...what vans are an absolute nightmare...all but most are simple to repair VW are a joke every thing is over complicated

[@davidbarker9043]

I had one bag SHIT ALWAYS BIG BILKS CLUTCH .OIL . ENGINE PROB GOT RID . GOT MERCEDES VITO 2016 TONS MILES 20010 THUSANDS RUNS DREAM

[@domhnallmorris]

T5s are utterly average. Rust like anything.

[@robertwells1989]

So not true, not all years anyway. Got a 2007 on the driveway, tip top bodywork and chassis condition.

[@robertwells1989]

And the van has lived by the sea all it's life regular coating of salt

[@michaelokeeffe490]

Just stay away from German crap that costs you price of a whole car each year

[@mickrobo6073]

These vans mustn’t of been been serviced right, ? Mines got 157,000 on doesn’t burn oil 2013 2 L model. Do you research there know to do 200.000 400,000 miles without any major issues?