We exchange limbs on the 2022 PSE Nock On Carbon Levitate and Speed Test it with various arrow weights.
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@Hogheadsforbreakfast2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Those numbers are impressive. Due to a shoulder injury years ago I max out at 62 lbs. It allows me to shoot as much as I want without further damage. No elk hunting, just big hogs. That build is a freaking tank, I enjoyed the video.
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Hogsheads for breakfast is a great handle! Love it… Thanks for tuning is and giving some feedback! We think the levitate has made a strong case for being the best of 22’ for sure!
@MickyMouseLimited2 жыл бұрын
This is defiantly a good setup your logic is 100 % accurate . The more energy you put in the arrow the more effective is going to be.
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! If you check out all of our content, that’s always what we are trying to do. Controlling all of the variables that we can to increase our odds of success in the woods! Stay tuned!
@lugia2332 жыл бұрын
I made the jump to 80 this year with the Revolt x80 and my god do I love it. I shot all the other brand flagship bows in 80 and it felt the best for me. I love the tuning and flip disk features. Not to mention it comes in a little hot so I think I have mine going at 82lbs. Launches my 720 grain arrows at about 265 fps and I have not looked back since.
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We are definitely advocates of shooting 80# as long as you don’t compromise accuracy to do it! Good luck in the woods!
@lugia2332 жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting oh yeh I agree 100% I shot 70 for 4 or so years before making the jump and now I practice out to 120 with it. It's worth getting shit from people who don't see the point in it when I get the performance I do
@mussersbowsboatsandscience66102 жыл бұрын
Just going back and forth between your two videos, the 80lb PSE Levitate was only a few FPS faster than the 80lb PSE Mach 1. That might be a good enough reason to just keep the PSE Mach 1.
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
The Mach 1 is definitely a great bow! Definitely very similar to the Levitate. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it! Thank you for watching!
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
That’s a tough question for sure. The E2 cams are great and as the arrows get heavier the speed drop off is consistent. That may be a benefit depending on how heavy you are wanting to go with your arrow. The draw cycle is also improved as well as the vibration and noise. The string angle is a bit better as well. The improvements are subtle, not drastic and the cost is significant $$. It really comes down to what is more important to you. I hope that helps! Thanks for asking for our opinion and support!
@mattgoin2 жыл бұрын
Sick video! Been waiting for the limb swap! Thanks for sharing fellas and shoot straight 🏹
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@williamcaffey78873 ай бұрын
Keep it up guys
@williamcaffey78873 ай бұрын
One of my favorite bow videos this year. Actually it was my favorite…and most informal. I have a PSE Omen 80# E2 (its kinda crazy 🤪 Also have a bowtech SR 350 (i would kill for 80 lbs limbs for that) I hoping Bowtech steps it up im the #80 department. Do you think the Mathews lift will be as efficient with heavier arrows with just the modules & not having 80lbs limbs?
@ryanoneil67472 жыл бұрын
Man just found this channel love the name I just subscribed
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hope you like the content as well!
@douglasgreaves11372 жыл бұрын
I got the Ventum 33 at 80.. cooking on gas bro..! Love it.. so smooth on the draw for 80..!
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Hey Douglas, thanks for watching! Definitely agree with you, the ventum has one of if not the best draw cycles at 80#!
@brucescott70232 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty new to archery, awesome looking setup by the way, if you were going to use it for 3D or Tac would you fire a 650 gr heavy or a 450gr speed arrow down range!
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I will put the 70 lb limbs back on for 3D season and I’ll be shooting a mid 400 gr arrow.
@jamescolby42832 жыл бұрын
Wow what an amazing bow love it
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the watch! We absolutely agree! It’s an all around great bow with some amazing performance…
@jordanpowell2282 жыл бұрын
Good lord you could probably shoot through an elk and a moose standing side x side with that speed at 600 grains plus. Incredibly efficient cam at the higher arrow weights
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We absolutely agree. These cams are super efficient as the weight increases.
@billmcstay1942 жыл бұрын
That was excellent, thanks for sharing!
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Stay tuned for more levitate content!
@michaelficarro25912 жыл бұрын
not a fan of PSE, but they are pretty much the only company that comes close to their stated IBO.....
@michaelficarro25912 жыл бұрын
Black Eagle rampage 150's will spine for you.....
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We have noticed the same thing with the IBO.
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
We are eager to see what darton does in the next couple of years, I hear that they have some things cooking
@yvantomac95022 жыл бұрын
Great vid guys :)
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, and for the feedback!
@malachilake30232 жыл бұрын
Sweet edits
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
You the man!!!
@jons8586 ай бұрын
On the flip side to see how much speed you can get out of 80lb limbs, do you know what poundage you can back the 80lbs down to with allotted turns of the limb bolt?
@brosbeforebowshunting2 ай бұрын
You definitely could, the question would be if you would loose efficiency or not. Some engineers have said that the bow is most efficient with the limb bolts completely tight.
@gibsonlife5732 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure John Dudley did not make that thumb button to be punched
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Hey William, thanks for watching! Can’t argue with the footage, but check out the follow-through! 😂😂
@itismylifesogoforit2 жыл бұрын
Levitate is extremely fast!
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! We agree! Super impressed with the new E2 cam!
@upstreamer16612 жыл бұрын
Will the string and cables on a 80lbs bow stretch quicker than on a lower poundage bow? Shooting faster might be a good thing, but at what cost?
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Great question, there is always a price to pay when shooting a higher poundage bow. There is definitely the possibility that you can increase wear and tear on the equipment, however most of the bows these days are engendered and tested at these specs. Most of the down side come in wear on the user, if you can’t be accurate or consistent or physically can’t pull the weight, we would never suggest you do that! Thanks again for watching and great question!
@ek21ford2 жыл бұрын
How did you set your limb deflection and cam shims ?
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great question. I put the limbs with the greater deflection on the right, with the highest on the top right. I set the cams as close to center as possible and used the yokes for tuning. Thanks for watching!
@brettpaul38002 жыл бұрын
I will be using the new Garmin Xero Pro. Do you think this would be too much of a tank for this bow? I thought with weight down low with stabilizer and this heavy site, this would be a good way too drop the ounces with this bow.
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Hey Brett, Thanks for watching this video! One of the great things about having a light bow is that you can add weight with accessories and still end up with a lighter rig than if you started with the average bow! One thing to consider with a heavier sight is it may make the bow seem “top heavy”. Set it up and see how it feels and go from there. Try different stabilizer configurations to achieve the best result. Let us know how it goes!
@jowhi92968 ай бұрын
Ever test it in 28.5 or 29? All us short guy problems lol.
@brosbeforebowshunting8 ай бұрын
Hey Joseph thanks for watching! That is a great question, Josh shoots a 30 inch draw, I shoot 29-29.5 inch draw depending on the bow. We have both hunted with and shot the levitate for a couple of years now. It’s probably one of the most efficient platforms we have ever used. To answer your question, you can expect a decrease of 4-5 FPS per half inch of draw length. Thanks for the comment!
@jowhi92968 ай бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting appreciate it. I figured about that. I just got a Levitate. Honestly I wasn't sure about it and the 80#.. but when I shot it man it felt so good
@milkrvr40882 жыл бұрын
Has pse had the problems that everyone else has with limbs when they hit 80lbs they start to have limbs go bad break etc also your 649 grain arrows is only 6fps slower than my 482 grain arrow 😂 I was feeling good about my set up until I saw this… let me know if the thing about tuning a broadhead over 300fps being so much harder let me know if that’s true
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the watch and comments! We both have been shooting 80 lb bows from all the major brands for the past few years and we haven’t had any limb issues. In fact we both have been shooting a lot of PSE 80 lb models lately. We will be putting a broadhead video together as we get geared up for elk season so stay tuned!!!
@sethbiby76172 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to do this comparison. Do you notice a difference in string angle between the levitate and Mach 1? I have a Mach 1 and have had issues with the cable guide moving on me and have contemplated on switching to the levitate. I’m a 30.5” draw, so the claimed angle advantage of the levitate is appealing to me. There doesn’t seem to much difference in speed or hold between the two from your reviews.
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Hey Seth, thanks for watching! You have some great questions! I am currently working on a more in-depth review video for the Levitate which address some of these questions. But to answer some of your questions; first off with the string angle on the levitate is slightly better, if you look closely at the cams on the levitate they are larger this helps. Is it a huge improvement? No but it is noticeable. Second, in my experience with the Mach 1 I never had an issue with the cable guard moving, I had heard several people say they did, but it wasn’t an issue for me. I never really saw the point of making it adjustable. Third when it comes to hold and speed/performance, in my opinion the levitate holds slightly more steady, I think this is due to the wider limb pockets. The levitate has shown to be slightly more efficient with the new cam especially with the heavier arrows 575+ grains. I think that the biggest down side to upgrading to the levitate is the price, in my opinion if you have the money the improvements on levitate are worth it. The Mach 1 is still one of the best carbon bows made! Stay tuned and let us know what you think of the more in-depth review.
@sethbiby76172 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the response. This was very helpful content.
@danielschultz9552 жыл бұрын
Shot my bow for 20 minutes and the cable guard loosened...
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Hey Daniel, was that with the levitate?
@danielschultz9552 жыл бұрын
No it was on my new, leftover dealer stock 2021 60# Mach 1 Mossy Oak Breakup bow! Happy to have found that unicorn.
@deserthunter1.0102 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed any structural issues with your riser with the 80? Rep just had me send mine back for inspection……
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching, sorry to hear that your riser had structural issues, I have been working with the levitate with 80# limbs for a few months and I haven’t noticed any issues as of yet. If you don’t mind, what issues did you have so we know what to look for?
@deserthunter1.0102 жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting I’m not sure if it was just paint or structural, but check out the riser by your limb pivots. All 4 of mine raised interest.
Wait till they release the FL mods for the E2 cams..
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Hey Daniel, thanks for watching! Just when you think they can’t get better…. We are super impressed with how efficient the E2 cams are. I’m having a hard time finding the right arrow setup that can handle the heat!
@itzwade Жыл бұрын
Did you mention the draw length? If so I missed it.
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! The DL was 30” for that test.
@itzwade Жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting thanks for the reply, I shoot a 29 so I’m just trying to get an idea on speeds. 80# is the way to go, keep up the great content.
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Stay tuned!
@joshharris74222 жыл бұрын
Hey man how can I get some 70 pound lims. For my levitate bow. How did you go about ordering them. Thanks
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I have had very good experiences ordering PSE items from Straight 6 Archery in Missoula MT. I’ve ordered limbs and cams for a few different models and they have always gone above and beyond. They are my go-to for PSE.
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh thanks for watching! I think you can place an order for limbs at any PSE dealer. I think the only info that you will need is the serial number of the bow. We both have had great luck and service from a shop in Missoula Montana called Straight 6 archery, they will ship you just about anything that they can! Good luck, let us know how it goes!
@joshharris74222 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Means a lot.
@andrewladuke24952 жыл бұрын
I would love to know what those limb adapters are on your bow press and where I can get them
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! The limb adapters are the Ultra Lock Adapter made by last chance archery. They were designed for the beyond parallel limbs Hoyt used to make but I use them whenever I am pressing new limbs. I picked these up on eBay but you can get them from most archery specific dealers
@backwoodscliff317 Жыл бұрын
What cams were in the bow ?
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! This bow has the E2 cams.
@backwoodscliff317 Жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting sick in going to be running that on my new 80lb mach 34. At 31.5 draw. Will 250 spine arrows handel that or go to the 235 vap tko ? 100 to 125 head
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Great question, depending on the total weight up front and how short you are comfortable cutting them, you should be able to get 250 spine arrows to tune. Sounds like you will have a killer setup! Good luck in the woods!!
@takashi03522 жыл бұрын
What is your drawlength bro?
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!!! The dl is set at 30” for this test.
@vodonnellvodvod2 жыл бұрын
I want one of those shirts!
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
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@andreweverett69252 жыл бұрын
Can you shoot this at 31.5 inches and let us know how fast it goes?
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
First of all, thanks for watching! I’d like to be able to do that for you…. but my arrow setups are maxed out for my 30” dl. You’ll be moving roughly 15 fps faster at that dl. The difficulty is finding an arrow that will spine, depending on how heavy you are looking to get your arrow setup to be. I am having to use a 200 spine arrow to get them to spine appropriately… How heavy are you looking to have your arrow? I might be able to build one up and test it if I know what your looking to achieve.
@andreweverett6925 Жыл бұрын
I’d want to shoot arrows between 600 and 820 grains. I’m not surprised that you need to use a 200 spine. With a 75 pound bow and a 32 inch draw I also needed a 200 spine.
@andreweverett6925 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried a traverse with 80 lb wake limbs?
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Great question! Initially when we were brainstorming for this build that was the plan. Much less work with strings, just slap on a set of sturdier limbs and your done. The issue was finding the wake limbs. We tried but it was just easier to scrounge up some switch weight cams.
@mussersbowsboatsandscience66102 жыл бұрын
It is moving!
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
You are correct! For a bow that weighs 3.6lb and is relatively quiet with minimal vibration, we aren’t sure if we can find anything that will beat it! Thanks for watching!
@mussersbowsboatsandscience66102 жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting seems like it could nearly keep up with my 80lb Xpedite with high left off, shot 70lb levitate, now trying to decide whether to order an 80lb levitate or get 80lb limbs for Mach 1 or sell it
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Good problems to have! Let us know which way you go!
@gibsonlife5732 жыл бұрын
Lol
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@nathanielnez86162 жыл бұрын
Your camera guy moves around to much
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@takashi03522 жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting I do not mind the camera movement, great vid!!!
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support! Stay tuned!!
@brosbeforebowshunting2 жыл бұрын
@@takashi0352 thanks for the watch and the feedback! We are self proclaimed armature KZbinrs for sure!
@vodonnellvodvod2 жыл бұрын
A pse xpedite nxt 80lb with fast mods at 30" gets a 610gr arrow to 306fps. Your welcome