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@kaskastera Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be fair here, my 3 year old msi does 13-14 both on hibernate and shutdown. Even if it does 20 I'm okay, the thing is these days every device is so fast that no one would consider counting the second but I'm actually from the dial up generation so I know the real pain. No complaints. And also thanks for the video
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Even if it isn’t the fastest at booting up, it blows almost every other laptop away when it comes to brute performance.
@phantom62763 ай бұрын
@@gamersanditparadisei got my first laptop in high school (2015) and i still use it today. Had to update the software and replace the battery but it still works perfectly fine. The startup time is about 8 seconds
@rekiasi-tayeb89320 күн бұрын
@@phantom6276 which brand please
@chestlp344 Жыл бұрын
These 5 seconds really matters in my live
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Lol
@ananimyc408 Жыл бұрын
That's what hdd owners think
@sircookie7 Жыл бұрын
It’s that rbg
@Kamletue Жыл бұрын
@@ananimyc408 I have a hdd and honestly it boots pretty fast
@ALPHARNOG16 Жыл бұрын
@@Kamletuereally bro 😑 , even I had hdd laptop, dell inspiron series, 1 tb hdd, it was good but after a year it would take almost 2 hours to boot up everytime
@Zhenren0ZHOU8 ай бұрын
The extra boot up time was due to the DDR5 memory training. It is also present in desktops. DDR4 memory training does not take as long as DDR5 memory training.
@gamersanditparadise8 ай бұрын
Can you explain the meaning of 'training'? Is it similar to training an ML model?
@Zhenren0ZHOU8 ай бұрын
@@gamersanditparadise It's a part of the POST process that the motherboard and CPU work together to ensure that all installed RAM are powered on, synchronizing the frequency, applying memory settings(such as the XMP profile), etc, then do a few quick tests to ensure the RAM modules are working properly according to those settings. Since DDR5 is running so fast and it's running in a fake dual channel setup for a single memory channel, it does take a while to ensure that the training is done right. Hence why the extra boot time, it has nothing to do with the storage like the NVMe SSD not being fast enough.
@ryeser48642 ай бұрын
g14 also uses ddr5 tho…
@Zhenren0ZHOU2 ай бұрын
@@ryeser4864the generation of G14 that uses Ryzen 5xxx processors uses DDR4 RAM.
@Roberto-nj5yrАй бұрын
@@ryeser4864lol you got schooled 😂
@mikeraptorh6888 Жыл бұрын
The 5 seconds diff is because of the rgb LEDs
@ImJustHereBcYes Жыл бұрын
Ikr 😂
@Ajayyadav-sj4lcАй бұрын
Fps boost 😂
@Laptopsigmagamer2 күн бұрын
No that's idiotic
@adamdeste7376 Жыл бұрын
Throw in a calculator for benchmark comparison. I bet it can power on and off a million times before any of these switch on.
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Thats the point, boot time is not a measure of real world performance. Boot time is just boot time, that's it.
@kewalkrishan562811 ай бұрын
Bro see how much scar 17se is more powerful then M14 it have better processor and better graphic card it take time to turn on a powerful mechenery
@azrielveteran25924 ай бұрын
*laughs at my asus x441N 12mins to on*
@vivatube466710 ай бұрын
Bigger the SSD the more time it takes to boot up. It does not conclude just by the boot up time which laptop is the faster if the SSD isn’t same size.
@ratgenerationx29467 ай бұрын
Thank you! It shows how little people know about pcs lol
@Supreme6DracoАй бұрын
Well, I Mean, The 2nd One Is More expensive and has better specs and those are USA sometimes heavy files to carry so there basically is no winner
@udayps31799 ай бұрын
THAT RGB WAS AWESOME
@YohanesSalomo3 ай бұрын
To be fair for me, the G14 sounds surprisingly quiet, but the Strix Scar 17 sounds surprisingly loud. 😂😅
@Yusufeditsx.3 ай бұрын
The fact is these laptops are way better then my victus 15 rtx 3050 or my old 320m i3 330 acer 😭😭
@Lead_Foot Жыл бұрын
The difference is probably mostly down to DDR5 memory training
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
You mean memory timing right?
@Lead_Foot Жыл бұрын
@@gamersanditparadise No, memory training is when your memory controller validates and tests memory settings and timings at boot, sometimes automatically adjusting subtimings. The slowest DDR5 is already running at speeds where DDR4 starts to behave very strangely so on some DDR5 platforms it can take well over a minute to make sure it's even stable enough to boot.
@lukepineda42 Жыл бұрын
Glad I got the g14 eclipse gray
@fidxdif Жыл бұрын
same man, it may not be as fast as strix lineups but its good for its size
@SahilPawar-bv8lyАй бұрын
Good things takes time 🙌🙌
@nirojkumarsahoo Жыл бұрын
Can you make a review video on SE
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Sure. It will take some time, but I will post an unbiased review soon hopefully. Please subscribe :)
@Ethics_MenАй бұрын
The second laptop He's really support 4k.(I don't mean accuracy)
@huhwattАй бұрын
yeah but the one on the right is stronger and best to play on games
@emilnilsson7492Ай бұрын
Ngl, g14 is the best laptop i've ever had.
@superfatcatgaming60Ай бұрын
bro the computer on the left is my computer irl lol
@Mayank_Bisht_MB11 ай бұрын
My legion 5 with 8 second - Hello noobs 😂
@gamersanditparadise11 ай бұрын
Lol
@sudheeshpsomanath6 ай бұрын
How is lenovo legion series
@ratgenerationx29467 ай бұрын
The Scar has a ton more to load
@GeeBao22045 ай бұрын
a ton more of what lol? RGB? lmao
@ratgenerationx29465 ай бұрын
@@GeeBao2204 more poo 💩
@NoNo-od1iv2 ай бұрын
Braindead replies
@snich1950 Жыл бұрын
That's not a fair comparison. That's not only included boot up but also powering the board. And, as you can see, the Scar has a power on keyboard animation. There's a lot happening before the actual boot up of the operating system.
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
I'm very much aware of this, and had thought about it in depth, but decided to start recording the time right after hitting the power button. The reason is, this implementation on the Scar is taking way longer than ROG's prior iterations (like 2020, 2021 and so on) with per key RGB which used to take far less time to get to the boot screen, almost identical to the G14 shown in the video. That is why I decided to keep it this way, as this is actually an issue. Otherwise as far as actual boot time goes, both should be pretty even.
@markstefandomondon6663 Жыл бұрын
There are animations in the per key rgb keyboard tho. And let me tell you that intel alderlakes additional layer of security on the Intel 12th Gen Evo boards could explain why boot times are longer.
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Hmm of course, I know that the RGB does contribute to the delay in boot time. But the prior generations of ROG laptops (with per key RGB) were a lot faster at initializing the RGB drivers than this Scar SE, so just to create awareness regarding this, I decided to measure boot time right after hitting the power button. The additional security measures as far as I can recall, are disabled on 12th Gen gaming ones, they are not Evo certified. But again, maybe 12th Gen's hybrid architecture could have something to do with it.
@LeonRyan-Siuu12 күн бұрын
Different hardware different needs
@AnjasGamink Жыл бұрын
My PC be like 1 minutes
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Lol :p slip an SSD in, boot time will drop sharply
@kelvinong1908 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe it takes 10 seconds…
@kurenai.1239 ай бұрын
Great power brings more responsibilities U can see here 😮💨
@gamersanditparadise9 ай бұрын
For example, starting up RGB during boot is one responsibility xD
@antonrheaumeАй бұрын
I just don’t know why mine won’t work. I just got one for my birthday and the screen will not turn on at all. I connect it to my TV and there’s stuff showing but nothing on the computer screen is showing.
@kamitube351 Жыл бұрын
Wow.. can u do a video editing test as well?
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Sure, working on it. That’s where the 4000$ laptop makes a difference xD
@quars_ Жыл бұрын
function is important, not size
@chickencurryrbx Жыл бұрын
Now compare them performance wise
@elsintripas2 ай бұрын
My dell optiplex e6400 from 2008 turns on in 2 seconds on windows 10 pro
@Gaming_guys300 Жыл бұрын
My lap open in 7 second
@ccoco7689 Жыл бұрын
Got asus g513 with 6800H (amd) and 980 Samsung pcie 1TB ssd - 15 sec same boot test
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Yeah, boot time has reached a point of diminishing returns nowadays. If you uninstall the bloatware that comes preinstalled on Asus (and most laptops in general), your laptop will boot a lot faster than mine. Even though mine has a 2TB SSD in RAID 0 configuration, still it boots slower than my Zephyrus G14 which has a slow 512GB Intel SSD lol.
@NvidiaGT630M Жыл бұрын
Old laptop always have faster boosting time. My old tuf laptop with i7-8gen 1050ti faster than my new legio laptop with i7-12gen 3060
@theworldwillcomeundertheru72836 ай бұрын
Here HDD 500 Gb i3 2nd gen user 😅
@Goofyballer5044 ай бұрын
I want the strix scar so bad but bro it cost my whole life for it
@blendersecrets141 Жыл бұрын
Start is not important for gaming, test them with games
@Nobody_Caresss Жыл бұрын
That's so true
@GAMERUGLYJUJU Жыл бұрын
I upgraded the ssd to 970 eco plus 2tb
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
So it should be even faster now right?
@pixeld59374 ай бұрын
hey is there any way to get that boot animation instead of the windows one???
@sanmeetsingh7363 Жыл бұрын
And here my HP Omen 15 (2020) boots up in around 6 seconds... 🤧
@coolcock_ Жыл бұрын
That's crazy Man
@seanm338 Жыл бұрын
There are valid things to compare between these two laptops, then there's this.
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
I did upload another comparison video between these two laptops, did you watch it?
@seanm338 Жыл бұрын
@@gamersanditparadise should I?
@syz0003 Жыл бұрын
fucking genius, of course.
@ALPHARNOG16 Жыл бұрын
Idc, strix looks cool af bro, It's so cool
@williamp6800 Жыл бұрын
More memory will make the boot time longer.
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Oh, is that true? The opposite should be true I think.
@HecklerK416 Жыл бұрын
@@gamersanditparadise No, it's true. More RAM will make it boot slower
@poplix2704 Жыл бұрын
@@gamersanditparadise No, more memory takes longers because of memory training.
@amenabdulnasser50812 ай бұрын
What r the gpu specs on these
@memer416Ай бұрын
ngl as an amd user. I should’ve made a upgrade to ryzen 7.
@Meteora013 Жыл бұрын
Aunque tarde 5 segundos el arranque no importa si el resto de la pc sera mejor que la comparacion
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Yea true, Scar 17 SE smashes the G14 in every other aspect it’s not even a contest.
@datpepe Жыл бұрын
That dual boot grub menu ruins my boot timings🥲, previously used to take around 5 sec in Asus Tuf Dash f15
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Oh I see..
@oudom586611 ай бұрын
I have scar 20 and strix G17 2023
@eduvelasco8166 Жыл бұрын
Si tiene mas hilos y nucleos puedes utilizarlos para iniciar mas rapido
@executed8186 Жыл бұрын
my acer nitro 5:This is hella slow
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Lol ;p
@MSS10241 Жыл бұрын
Сравнивать по включению
@cypercoder7 ай бұрын
It depends upon the size of ssd
@hasky206911 ай бұрын
Bro the other one meeds to boot Nasa specs meanwhile the other one is just booting patotos
@gamersanditparadise11 ай бұрын
Yea lol, thats quite a funny analogy but accurate :p
@alfinoanduhut39726 ай бұрын
No matter how fast is your laptop booting time...!! Windows blue screen is always win
@ahzamkhan21052 ай бұрын
My peedator helios neo 16 takes 5-7sec😂😂
@blyatpotato94849 ай бұрын
Looking at a gaming laptop like that I don't think it needs to boot up fast
@GrayCodeGaming9 ай бұрын
Hx toh bnd h na strt hone pr only 4 cores work kr rhe h dono mai isliye h aisa lol nd jitna bada process hoga like hx jb wo chlega na i 9 pr ryzen will hide under table
@user-gw8xs1jm1n3 ай бұрын
I have the g15 and it turns on in 6 sec
@osumania18 ай бұрын
My laptop takes 3 min 😂 and I am ok with it Or maybe not😔
@XgameGamer3 ай бұрын
graphics card for the g14?
@vitieubao68734 ай бұрын
This is Ssd's problem 😂😂😂
@mizukun903723 күн бұрын
WHERE DID U GET IT FOR 800
@BilarosssDOGO Жыл бұрын
my does like 1 minute to open
@paradoxdex43789 ай бұрын
Where could i get the g14 at that price. It convinced m dad to start gaming
@sanaumar8536 Жыл бұрын
More powerful hardware takes time
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Yeah, RGB and stuff. But in the end, RGB equals more FPS :D
@Driftocorn Жыл бұрын
Why Do Expensive Stuff Take Longer To Boot Up???
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
I wish I could tag @ROG Global to answer this, lol. Only they can answer the reason behind this nuisance.
@emmettdaster2 ай бұрын
and this matters why? They are both fast to start
@INSERT_YOUR_NAME_HERE Жыл бұрын
I've a vivobook pro 15 m3500QC(ryzen 7 5800h). It boots almost instantly. Maximum 5 Seconds. It's not a game oriented laptop. But it still has a rtx 3050 ti(4 gb). What I'm trying to say is that pure gaming laptops take significantly more time to boot than laptops which aren't meant for pure gaming
@some1754 Жыл бұрын
Ram upgradable?
@INSERT_YOUR_NAME_HERE Жыл бұрын
@@some1754ram is not upgradeable. Neither is ssd
@rehanshkumarbain9367 Жыл бұрын
Now open cyberpunk and then do the comparison
@PHOENIX26085Ай бұрын
Size doesn't matter 😂
@blenderanimeichons604 Жыл бұрын
Do u have the asus rog g14 pc link pls ☺️
@brighteye8009 Жыл бұрын
Ryzen is always the best
@3asltn Жыл бұрын
What 😂😂
@kewalkrishan562811 ай бұрын
Yo can't compare dude most powerful processor is i 9 13900ks upto 6ghz not ryzen
@rizkyardikaputra91872 ай бұрын
My acer nitro 5 an515-57 do 12 second in Shutdown
@KnownBros Жыл бұрын
I have a scar 17 se
@NTTE_YT3 ай бұрын
Does size really matter?
@iRicardoXz6 ай бұрын
Bro, u power on ur damn laptop like max 3 times for day, really a few seconds does matter ☠️?
@TheTenki9 ай бұрын
my old pc does 12 sec so
@laylaomar2719 ай бұрын
my asus ROG STRIX G17 NOT scars boot up just 7 sec to home. i swear
@sergiotorrijos6729 Жыл бұрын
Ha my lenovo all in one Cseries from 2009 does 5 min to start and im totally ok with it
@ibnusidik2455 Жыл бұрын
Mine doesn't even last 5 minutes
@soumyajit40612 ай бұрын
Only Boot time you will decide g14 wins Lol year .. Jitna high configuration utna to time lagega hardware access karne ke lie
@shefshyguy26 ай бұрын
The crazy part is both of those laptops are better than my 600 dollar gaming laptop 😢 I’m so broke
@MobilelegendsYT-qs2yj6 ай бұрын
I don't even have a gaming laptop cant even afford 200$ and ur thinking ur poor??
@NoNo-od1iv2 ай бұрын
@@MobilelegendsYT-qs2yjthe lowest budget for gaming laptop are 400-500. 200$ is second hand business laptop lmaoo
@Jloki442 Жыл бұрын
My five year old hp omen does it in 10 seconds
@E_lememnta18 күн бұрын
Me laptop Asus vivobook got second 5
@legacygamer18585 ай бұрын
Bro i have a hdd lap But my lap boots in less than 10 💀 seconds idk how?
@tonydownhill1891 Жыл бұрын
strix scars just look too childish to buy so I got M16 s
@yunhua215 Жыл бұрын
where'd you get an 800$ g14 yesterday when i went to the store they were selling for over 1K and that's the g401 series not even with the camera
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Look for the 1650 config, you should be able to get it.. but yeah no webcam
@yunhua215 Жыл бұрын
@@gamersanditparadise mann i need a webcam one 😭been thinking to just get a tx3
@mustardmemes42010 ай бұрын
i got my pc 1 year ago cost £900 and it takes over 2 minutes to start up and load to even be usuable it was like that from whem i first got it are computers really meant to be this quick😭😭 probably shoulda got a refund 😂
@hafizhperdana2 ай бұрын
Zephyrus G14 for only $800? Wow is that real?
@OporowyMiki Жыл бұрын
My 1 year old hp omen 15 turns in like 15-20 sec i think, i just don't care
@c6lton2 ай бұрын
Windows 11 will have a slower startup on 99% of computers/laptops compared to windows 10. No matter the specs
@yangluchshenko Жыл бұрын
Bro i don’t care about that. My current laptop takes 30 seconds to wake up. From sleeping mode
@Am1uth9 ай бұрын
El sonido cuando sale el logo es más bajo en la zephyrus??
@gamersanditparadise9 ай бұрын
Yes. Sound is quieter (on bootup) for Zephyrus. Otherwise the sound system on Zephyrus is no slouch.
@RubbinRobbin4 ай бұрын
I blame intel
@Matthew597 Жыл бұрын
Big ass laptop.
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Lol
@pangtundure Жыл бұрын
Burh u testing SSD ?
@gamersanditparadise Жыл бұрын
Nah this isn't an ssd test. Otherwise ssd on the scar 17 se is like 10 times faster than the G14 (spoiler for next video).