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@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I hit publish I remembered that I forgot to mention the offset quarter triplet accent thing in Everybody Wants. So - my mistake.
@SStarwind3 жыл бұрын
I was gunna say! There's something missing here! haha
@logantodd65003 жыл бұрын
Was literally practicing this groove earlier tonight, and when you didn't mention the offset quarter note triplet, I was like damn I made this way harder on myself than I needed to...smh. Any tips on getting those offset accents to sit well? Got close but couldn't quite nail it.
@MikeMastropierro3 жыл бұрын
@@logantodd6500 when I’ve played this I play alternating triplets on the hats, starting with my left hand, using my right hand for the offbeat accents and dropping it to the snare on the backbeat. Might not be 100% accurate, but it’s successfully gotten me through many a bar gig.
@dmleibo3 жыл бұрын
I think that offset triplet thing is a machine loop or a shaker or something isn’t it? I think the hihat is, in reality, played more straightforward like you did.
@dtsdigitalden50233 жыл бұрын
Loved it. Loved it loved it loved it. That thin line that travels back through time, "shuffle time."
@rpt0rman3 жыл бұрын
No “Fool In the Rain”?!! You could have talked about the awesome hi hat bark placement and how it gives the song such a unique feel. Still a good video though, thanks for the content and inspiration!
@mrbtapir3 жыл бұрын
it's basically the Purdie shuffle tho isn't it, with that extra kick/bark.
@rpt0rman3 жыл бұрын
@@mrbtapir I mean they are all “basicly” just a shuffle. It’s about the subtle feel changes each player has offered over the years. I think Bonham’s style on that song is incredibly unique take on what has been done before, just like pretty much every great player.
@keiththehawk65123 жыл бұрын
@@mrbtapir yes sir
@Quesadillaeater3 жыл бұрын
Pic of Cash’s drummer is pure gold
@JeffoftheShout3 жыл бұрын
Regarding, Tears for Fears - Everybody wants to rule the world: The hi hat pattern is a lot different then what you explained. It’s supposed to be every other triplet accent, starting with the 2nd triplet accent. For example, if we’re counting: 1&a 2&a, only play: _&_ 2_a on the hi hat. Start this video at 6:17 to see what I’m explaining, if what I’m saying doesn’t seem to make sense. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaPSZ4aJhcipp5o Other than that, great video! Great lesson for people learning various shuffles!
@troubleondemand77033 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I learned it years ago and thought I was going crazy for a second there watching this. The hi-hat part is what to me gives it its uniqueness.
@SkipS53 жыл бұрын
The kick is also doubled up throughout the whole beat, so you'd hit the kick at the same time as the snare. Kinda like a steady heartbeat. Super clear when you listen to the isolated drum track for that song.
@Armakk3 жыл бұрын
T4F never gets the respect they deserve. Let's see a breakdown of Katche's "Badman's Song" beat ahem
@jordancohen482 жыл бұрын
Awesome breakdown. I think Bonham’s “fool In The Rain” should be added to this list as well.
@leandrosinco3 жыл бұрын
I think Purdie was talking about Home at Last in that clip... That one came first. The song is playing in the background of the clip!
@dallasmcinroy47893 жыл бұрын
Thats right
@jakeb38493 жыл бұрын
Nate, you're missing the vocal parts in the Purdie Shuffle.
@Mrhadatte3 жыл бұрын
Wooooo! haHA!
@drumanddrummer29593 жыл бұрын
Hits like, “OooOooo”, and “UhhhhhaaaYEAH”
@keiththehawk65123 жыл бұрын
Let me splains it to you
@reeldiskdigital3 жыл бұрын
HAHA YES!
@chriskiefer74933 жыл бұрын
I used to have a pair of Zildjian hats with that same square crack in them. Memories!
@addradz3 жыл бұрын
There’s a candelabra of light bulbs going off in my head. So straight and to the point! Loved it!
@ivofechner80393 жыл бұрын
Great that you finally dropped the intro, I will watch with increased pleasure from now on!
@josephchambers33943 жыл бұрын
Great lesson. Probably my favorite shuffle lesson on KZbin! First time I've ever heard someone say Fred Below's name. Always had read it from wiki and liner notes and wondered how to pronounce it.
@noahwilliams97473 жыл бұрын
That Purdie interview was for when he played the same shuffle in “Home at Last” of the Aja album previously in 1977.
@Armakk3 жыл бұрын
This is low-key one of the best songwriting videos out there. Writers watch and learn
@superatech Жыл бұрын
I spent 2 days writing this out - I did download the sheet also. Presently I cannot get any speed up on these. I am hoping "muscle memory" will step in once again as she has in the past. Thank you for this shuffle class.
@mathewreed8183 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best video I’ve seen on different types of shuffles. I appreciate the history as well as the types. Thank you!
@yodathehutt15573 жыл бұрын
I love all these so much
@gastrein113 жыл бұрын
great video and perfect to address the history and players responsible for the grooves, always looking forward to your next videos and never disappointed, it really separates you from the rest of the pack
@timbrown603 жыл бұрын
Love the pacing of your lessons. He's the type a teacher where you have to pause and work on what he just said
@toddberg4404 Жыл бұрын
This video is dynamite, Nate. Thanks for breaking down these shuffle beats in such an easy to understand manner. I really dig the shuffles you chose to cover, especially the blasts from the past. Thank you.
@JasonSmith-ot5pq3 жыл бұрын
Great lesson. I haven’t played for 14 years. You have inspired me 🙏
@brianmcguire51752 жыл бұрын
I didn't know I needed a video like this until I watched it! Funny that I've always enjoyed shuffle grooves ,both playing them and listening to them, yet never really invested more dedicated time to developing my own execution of the feel like I habitually did with other feels and grooves asked of me in gigs.This upload by 80/20 drummer, Nate, is gold dust in sand. Glad I found it and glad he shared it. No excuse to work on your shuffle fellow drummers, in this video you've a comprehensive database with demonstration. I've my homework set out for me for the next while. Long while!
@markgriskey3 жыл бұрын
I loved your comment about Bata drumming! yes I use african 6/8 polyryhthms against the basic 1/2 time shuffle groves all the time. It's those accented middle notes in the triplets that make it hip... and this is where the "Quarter note triplet" Bass drum notes really come from.
@onurgursoy22593 жыл бұрын
Love the snare :)
@ggauche34653 жыл бұрын
You are an awesome and diligent teacher. I wish you taught saxophone!
@blueshark9283 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Thanks for the lesson.
@arj446_3 жыл бұрын
Bonham - fools in the rain, his take on the Purddie shuffle Fun lesson Nate, basics are essential. Love your snare, btw, sounds tight !
@blakenunndrums3 жыл бұрын
Look who's using that phenomenal Angel snare as their main snare now?! I wonder why?? It couldn't be the fact that snare is one of the best timbres I've heard with great ranges. I guess that Amazon snare with its own sympathetic resonance wasn't so great, huh? lol. ;) Love your channel, approach, humor, perseverance, feel, and tips. You're a phenomenal player, and you've obviously done your homework! Much respect, and thanks for all you do! I LOVE that snare! I have a pork pie BOB, Pearl Free floater, Pearl SST birch, and a Tama SLP studio maple. That one snare you have covers all the ranges that it takes me a couple snares to cover, except for my brass/metal Pork Pie (my work horse). I'm trading in my Pearl Masters Custom Maple Shells with gold badges (90s edition), with a Gibraltar power rack and original A customs, New Beats, and a Ping Ride and a Supernaturals Divine 22" custom ride (not the newer A custom alloys that are super bright, the first editions). If anyone has suggestions of a good kit to trade up for, I'd appreciate any feedback! I found this place called "Drum Flip" in Vista CA, and they have AMAZING drums, vintage, new, used, Noble and Cooley, C&C, Orange, DW, Ludwig, Yamaha, Pearl, Tama, Gretsch, Sonor etc. I own a Gretsch Catalina 7 piece, the Pearl Masters Custom (original, not with the new badges that look like a PGA golf tournament badge. lol jk), and a Ludwig Breakbeats currently. I had a Sonor 3001 as my first kit and liked it, although cheaper. I'm thinking a Yamaha Tour or higher end PHX (Phoenix), Sonor SQ2, and another Gretsch (probably a renown or better bop). Thanks for any adive or help! Appreciate this community very much! I have a severe back problem (fractured my spine wrestling for school), and shlepping a rack around just to play 1 extra tom isn't feasible for me any longer. I'm perfectly happy with a 4 or 5 piece, and have snares I can keep or trade in too. Thanks again! ....and no, I'm not looking at getting a N.C. or A&F kit. Lol. Happy drumming!
@fredericlinden3 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of this snare (I am a pianist who has 'suffered' playing with hundred of drummers who would turn the snare into a canon...). Thank you 80/20 !
@randydoak66383 жыл бұрын
That Blakey shuffle is legit. A good way to get your bandmates smiling.
@chrisknowles643 жыл бұрын
As always, great stuff Nate!!
@youpeopl_music32203 жыл бұрын
I'd like to mention, the "Porcaro" (or Rosanna shuffle), according to Jeff Porcaro himself, is a combo of the Purdie Shuffle and the Bonham (Fool In The Rain) Shuffle!
@juancarlossuarez74863 жыл бұрын
Well, it's implied when he says you play a clave on the kick
@youpeopl_music32203 жыл бұрын
@@juancarlossuarez7486 Missed that. Thanks!
@citydrums75253 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Killer snare...
@coolrockindaddy66303 жыл бұрын
Reelin’ in the Years by Steely Dan is worth mentioning because it has some of those left hand ghost notes like the Purdie and Rosanna shuffles, but keeps the backbeat on 2 and 4.
@timfangio672 жыл бұрын
Great lesson. Love to know what that snare is though. Sounds great.
@Ian_P3 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍 😊 The Tears for Fears shuffle is one that always gets stuck in my mind. Stomping on the hat pedal to accent the triplet pattern... Heaven.
@jimswainston3 жыл бұрын
Richard Bailey on Jeff Beck's Freeway Jam
@bobweber41403 жыл бұрын
Love it Nate thankyou
@mcovey20203 жыл бұрын
Love this. Would have loved to hear more about how these feels relate to the metronome...like how Blakey’s shuffle is iconic partly because he swung it “harder”, delaying the skip beats more than a metronomically perfect triplet would be. Having the time constraint is obviously a good idea, but even a sentence on the feely bits of the time on a few more of these examples would be helpful!
@rene1OOO33 жыл бұрын
Great work! Come to Texas sometime and I’ll show you some fun shuffles we play out here all the time. :)
@dirkayala58123 жыл бұрын
Good RoundUp!
@SStarwind3 жыл бұрын
Great Video. The last song has always been sort of an enigma for me to figure out how to play it in a way that feels "right". My favorite, however is an electronic shuffle, "Sounds from the Ground - Where the Wild Things Were". Two Snares to get the textures right and wide bass drum dynamics just make it more fun to play than, say, Rosanna....
@markgriskey3 жыл бұрын
Very Nice Job! My "Blakey Shuffle" leaves out one pickup note so my left hand is mostly just grabbing the pickups into 2 and 4 if that makes sense... I remember it feeling really weird at first like reverse "Spang-a-lang" (which is what Freddie Gruber would say when he referred to the Jazz ride pattern. Also if you squish the pickups closer to downbeats it starts to sound more Country - and also more like the Texas shuffle
@olddrummerguy3 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@charlesavino88263 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! In the 80's I had to figure most of the shuffles on my own playing in cover bands. I loved playing "Everybody Wants..." and "Pride and Joy," but "Rosanna?" Not so much!!! That damn fill! Love your stuff, thanks!
@willsabol83913 жыл бұрын
re: johnny cash beat - you can throw in some second-line accents/fills for some extra sauce, it works pretty well. I also do a jazz ride cymbal pattern on closed hi hat sometimes.
@matthewsherman97653 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Grapevine Fires by Death Cab for Cutie is a great shuffle and Jason McGerr does a cool hi-hat technique with his shuffles where the chick replaces the hitting of the hi hat on the 3&a
@IanSummach3 жыл бұрын
Add to that, What Sarah Said is another Death Cab shuffle with cool hi-hat accents!
@markvandivier3 жыл бұрын
Great video Nate. Loved your shuffle list and dig that snare.
@carlupthegrove2623 жыл бұрын
So cool...thanks
@nealmoseley19823 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would have added Stevie Wonder - Master blaster jammin' and Primus - The dutchess and the proverbial mind spread
@themole20243 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Nate. That Muddy Waters shuffle is pretty sexy. And you have proven that you do not need a whole hi hat to for this.
@firstdecade153 жыл бұрын
Loved this one Nate. Shuffles are so darn important and I love playing them. Important stuff. I love the inclusion of the tears for fears. Songs from the Big Chair... classic. And I never associated or really paid close enough attention to notice that Rule the world was a shuffle. And I literally own that vinyl from my 1980s childhood. Great lesson Nate
@dannorris6423 жыл бұрын
Steely Dan's The Last Mall has a cool shuffle where Keith Carlock plays this great and kinda tricky accent pattern on the hi-hat.
@tvs8133 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Nate. Thanks!
@json643 жыл бұрын
A fine assortment of shufffles/reels can be found in "Slow train" by Status quo. It´s kind of a rhapsody rhythmwise. Seasons greetings from Sweden!
@Funkybassuk3 жыл бұрын
This was wicked! Thanks! 👍🏽
@FranckAgulhonMusic3 жыл бұрын
Great vidéo 💥🎵🎶🥁🎵🎶🥁 thanks
@davidwallace29503 жыл бұрын
How about the 80/20 Shuffle. Legend has it only one drummer has ever mastered it.
@ndykman_pdx3 жыл бұрын
Great video. On the Rosanna shuffle, Porcaro does often add a ghost note after the hit on three, which is super difficult to get right. He uses that little idiom on other tunes (Mushanga is one). The only shuffle I'd add to the list is Space Boogie (Jeff Beck), but that's more of a "be aware of" than play because it's super hard. But, it is a pivotal example of a double bass shuffle.
@rickfernandez13953 жыл бұрын
Yep...... you can't leave that out......that's a key part of the Rosana shuffle.
@yahhteebockity3 жыл бұрын
This was great. Especially the Johnny cash shuffle. Another great shuffler was Brian Downey from thin lizzy. The jailbreak album would be one odd my favourites purely for the song 'emerald'
@adamczerepinski3 жыл бұрын
What's up Nate!! I bought a drum set and I'm watching your videos waiting for it to arrive. Sounding great! What happened to your cymbals though??
@hipgroove683 жыл бұрын
Man your snare drum sounds fantastic! Is it a Craviotto?
@drumznfishes3 жыл бұрын
Fluke Holland groove!! New info for me..thanks! Now, what is that thing on your snare.
@mrbtapir3 жыл бұрын
that cash shuffle is absolutely delicious.
@alextomkinson51803 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: 'The way you make me feel' by MJ, played by JR Robinson I believe.
@EricMakingWaves3 жыл бұрын
First of all this video made me realize how much I love shuffles in general. I grew up on old blues. Secondly, holy crap tears for fears is a blues band.
@RMWBarton3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the flam tap rudiment split between the ride and snare? It’s a Steve Smith thing I think. it’s a jazz warm up I use and it sounds like the moanin’ shuffle. Off set spangalang in both hands without thinking about it too hard.
@Mauriesje3 жыл бұрын
Great video man, thx!!! The only thing is that I would play the tears for fears tune with two hands on the hihat... it’s easier to put is some accent flow to make it groovier... or even with two hats to get a stereo panned sound to the groove...
@jc3drums9163 жыл бұрын
Rosanna shuffle bass drum pattern is the Bo Diddley beat (plus a pickup).
@alforeman32973 жыл бұрын
Your Purdie is niiiiiiiiiice!
@SoFallsWichitaFalls Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@mrbigg72553 жыл бұрын
Great stuff man!!!
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial3 жыл бұрын
Nate: “you might know the slow roadhouse shuffle from beer commercials” Me: “That’s Diesel’s entrance music in ‘95!”
@andrewdressler70763 жыл бұрын
Jeff Porcaro's shuffles could have taken up three different portions of this video. Not just with Rosanna but also with tunes like Black Friday from Steely Dan's Katy Lied album and of course, Lido Shuffle from Boz Scaggs' Silk Degrees
@RobH622 жыл бұрын
Good to see you found yourself a cymbal-endorsement
@rhythmantic3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nate. Very well taught and educating. I wonder if Ringo’s groove on “Get Back “ by The Beatles would be considered a shuffle?
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
Think it’s more straight 8th
@samgamblewhite86003 жыл бұрын
Ringo's straight time is still a little bit swung so everything he does is a sort of semi shuffle.
@willsabol83913 жыл бұрын
Definitely forgot that whole hemiola feel with your 'everybody wants to rule the world' shuffle
@juancarlossuarez74863 жыл бұрын
We need an 80/20 shuffle Which you know is not impossible from the quintuplet approach ;) Next video suggestion: a second batch of shuffles including other famous shuffles that the audience missed in this list, and the (either from a recording or your own) 80/20 swung shuffle
@luxuriousfir3 жыл бұрын
This is great!
@Rockin_Ross3 жыл бұрын
No mention of Fool in the Rain for the Purdie Shuffle? Came before Rosanna and I’m sure Jeff used some of it in his take.
@sergiocortes61793 жыл бұрын
Hello there ! Love this video. I have a question... almost any other video of dummers always mention Steve Gadd shuffle (or any other famous groove by him) what’s your take on his influence? Hi has some less famous grooves that are naaasty
@willsabol83913 жыл бұрын
You need that ghostnote after the back beat in that purdie shuffle.
@rickfernandez13953 жыл бұрын
Yep....... also on Rosana.
@PerpetualTwilight883 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@jklaughlin873 жыл бұрын
I believe the Rosanna shuffle was inspired by Fool In the Rain, but I digress. Honestly, Bonham can’t be in everything, can he? Nice vid.
@yourdogsnews3 жыл бұрын
Ya missed the flat tire shuffle
@robertthompson55683 жыл бұрын
Shuffles are my Achilles heel! Played in a 90s Alternative cover band and none of those songs were shuffles. I'd say I've spent about 50 hours on and off messing with Fool in the Rain and...something is still not right! 😤😡
@samgamblewhite86003 жыл бұрын
Get the hi hat hand consistent and everytbing else falls into place. That's what I found at least.
@72cpugeek3 жыл бұрын
HeyDoc what’s on that snare ? Great Video !
@colindowell64273 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@russellesimonetta90712 жыл бұрын
Uhhh, what about the flat tire?? It,s kind of a Chicago blues trick to drive or shuffle hard! Simply ,,, ahh one ahh two ahh three ahh four ,,,,snare bass snare bass,,,similarly! The Texas shuffle is also the KC shuffle. The shuffle pattern on the snare or the thedouble KC both hands playing the shuffle.
@brian965973 жыл бұрын
I think Bonham should have gotten an honorable mention since Porcaro stated his shuffle was inspired by he and Purdie.
@tuonglukim89733 жыл бұрын
No Radar love by Golden Earring's Cesar Zuidewijk? That Mueller technique is killing me
@owenmcgee84963 жыл бұрын
shuffle drumming in blues-rock: Arrested for Driving While Blind/She Loves My Automobile/dozens more dodgy songs with good shuffle beats (ZZ Top/Frank Beard). every blues-rock band had to have a drummer who could do a good shuffle...
@striker_kbd3 жыл бұрын
Why does nate’s face look like an action figure
@rasm02253 жыл бұрын
The hair.
@Mauriesje3 жыл бұрын
Because he is!! Rock on brother !! 💪
@riggermortisfpv5263 жыл бұрын
Way off of topic, but how did you do that to your hat ? Do you moonlight for Slipknot ? Anyways as always thanks for the great videos, you have been a huge help to this drumming thing I have returned to after 28 years.
@markmitchell44512 жыл бұрын
Btw, excellent tips!
@markmitchell44512 жыл бұрын
I’ve been working on several of these shuffles and my question is, why is it called a shuffle? Thanks
@stevehelland67893 жыл бұрын
"Fool In The Rain" by John Bonham would have been nice to include here... :-)
@chriskiefer74933 жыл бұрын
I always heard the first shuffle called"The Chicago Shuffle."
@alextabero98873 жыл бұрын
Taking the Tears for Fears shuffle further, you can accent every over triplet staring on the 'and' to emulate the percussion on the record. Like this: instagram.com/p/B3r0K5TBdx8/
@jmac10133 жыл бұрын
This is how I always heard that beat.
@tuukkatervo87603 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty those accents are on the hats on the actual record. The accented notes might even be the whole hi-hat pattern, shaker is doing the other notes of the triplet.
@jc3drums9163 жыл бұрын
@@tuukkatervo8760 Yeah, that's what I think as well. XTC's King for a Day does the same thing at the end of the choruses.
@udkline3 жыл бұрын
Not to quibble, but I always thought of the Art Blakey shuffle as "uh 2, uh 4", as opposed to doing the entire shuffle?
@beast_of_burden77623 жыл бұрын
The fact that Fool in the Rain is not on this list is a Crime!
@codersexpo15803 жыл бұрын
It's the Purdie shuffle with a sweet H-Hat BUT....but what I absolutely love is that feel when JB goes to the ride with straight 8ths and the H-Hat on 2 and 4...boom boom sis bak gum sis boom boom sis back gum sis.....you know what I mean...how sweet was that!