BMW N63 Engine | Common Problems & Reliability

[@georgecartwright7482]

Had my 2012 550 since new. BMW recommended oil changes every 15,000 miles or 21,000 kms. No surprise they caused every N63 engine to fail. I thought they were nuts so just changed my oil every 5000 miles. Engine is fine after 12 years.

[@8020Media]

George - Great decision! That interval is insane from BMW..

[@ggepolo]

Honestly thanks for the pointers, I’m not sure why I wait for the recommended time to change my oil even tho I can feel my car crying for more after a few months.. 2012 750li and it’s been running great since I’ve has it, got it around 140,000 miles I’m at 163 in about 2 years so so it’s held up pretty well for the long distance travels I go on. Definitely not as fast since when I got it tho the bags are really old the electronic damping doesn’t work and there’s a drivetrain malfunction that doesn’t allow me to go into comfort sport or sport plus, other than that engine is fine

[@Scalykams]

​@@ggepolobro, how are you ok, with driving on "drive train malfunction" it means you are not getting more than 30% power

[@Landonstein]

​@@Scalykams holy shit, my X5 can barely make it up a shallow incline when the drivetrain malfunction hits.

[@dwightlooi]

I know it is easy to blame it on infrequent oil change intervals, but let's be honest here... most of the failures talked about here WILL HAPPEN even if you change your oil changed every 500 miles. (1) Piezo Injector and high pressure fuel pump -- not even in the oil circuit. (2) Shit over heating in the V and things going bad... well, dirtyoil or clean oil, they'll go bad. (3) Timing Chain skipping due to a bad follower... well, maybe, but it is also possible that the follower just breaks. (4) Oil consumption -- the engine has a low low indicator, so you should be good as long as you top off.

[@kiickinballistics]

2014 N63TU here. 83,000km no issues except one oil line replacement. Keep mine regularly serviced and change oil. These are amazing engines IMO as a long-term owner. Service it correctly and you should be good.

[@urface12343]

What problems could I expect from buying one with higher miles? It’s listed at 87k MILES not sure what that would be in KM but well over 120.

[@8020Media]

K - Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@8020Media]

U - It says it in the video.

[@saminbashar5263]

how do you know if a 550i has a n63tu

[@8020Media]

S - You can look it up via the VIN or this article may help from our BMW Tuning website: bmwtuning.co/bmw-n63-vs-n63tu-vs-n63tu2-vs-n63tu3/

[@xellium5445]

Our 2015 550i has been in the family since new and has only needed coolant lines and HPFPs throughout our ownership from 20K miles to around 130K now

[@8020Media]

Xellium - Sounds like you've got a good one! Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@viper22jc]

supposedly after 2014 and up they did some reliability mods to the N63. I had a 2012 550i xdrive and the engine started having a lot of oil issues at around 70k miles. The valve stem seals go bad and oil seeps through and into the combustion chamber. BMW fixed this for free but by then I was ready to sell it after I replaced the boost solenoids that went bad and coolant lines.

[@8020Media]

Viper - Thanks for sharing this insight and your experience!

[@ThruDaLenz]

Hows that 50i now?

[@drudown2039]

07 335 owner here . N54 - 107k , stage 2 turbos , stage 2+ mhd , inlets , outlets , intake , vrsf Intercooler , b58 coil conversion , 335 IS clutch It is the fastest car I’ve ever driven, 3500 rpm to redline feels like getting boosted out of slingshot. Replaced the water pump , injectors , oil pan gasket, oil filter housing gasket , walnut blasted the intake valves , clutch , and turbos , after you replace all that it’s actually a relatively reliable car !!! 🤣

[@8020Media]

D - Couldn't agree more! Thanks for taking the time to share your experience.

[@g.w.7893]

Nobody asked.

[@8020Media]

GW - Nobody has to ask. It's called decency to inform future viewers.

[@joelkilzzzyt1283]

@@g.w.7893that’s exactly what I’m looking for this is a n63 video nobody cares about one of the most unreliable motors known to man n54

[@C0rvette454]

@@joelkilzzzyt1283n54 is good if you keep it stock.

[@TheTkrum]

2013 650i here. Lost 2 coils recently at 73,500 miles. The last coil took out the DME as well. $2500 for the DME. The oil squirter lines for the turbos and valve cover seals were done recently. Expensive services. Highly recommended a good warranty.

[@8020Media]

T - So sorry to hear... However, we do appreciate you taking the time to share your experience!

[@fdurango]

1st gen n63 here. Actually I’m having valve stem seal and timing chain fixed right now. For me it’s a very powerful engine although it has its downside. Issue began at 110k miles so it hasn’t been that bad at all. Also some hoses here and there (considering this engine has so much of them and T connectors are plastic). It’s a popular engine so my advice is to make your research prior getting a N63 ride. Great vid man. Big shoutout

[@8020Media]

F - Thanks for sharing your experience and feedback! Hope it helped.

[@tbirdboy]

Any N63 I'd buy will be accompanied by a lengthy warranty. That said the M550i is a beast in a tailored suit.

[@8020Media]

Absolutely agree!

[@pelonsuxx84115]

Just got mine as a gift. 2015 550i sitting at 205k miles. Engine and transmission feels solid as far as i can tell. I do think i need new engine mounts though.

[@8020Media]

205k miles is pretty impressive for an N63!

[@mortyrosenstein4211]

I’m at 82k miles on 2008 135i N54. Stage 1+ Cobb tune+intercooler since 40k mikes. Aside from plugs and fluids, the car was flawless since purchase. This year, at 80k, is the first time I’m spending money on it. I had water pump/thermostat/leaking oil filter housing replaced/oil change/alignment done at indy BMW garage for 2100$. Right now it’s in shop for all coils/plugs/walnut blast and that’s 1500. Got cylinder 4 misfire and service engine light last week. Aside from the leaky oil filter housing, these are basically expected costs at 80k miles. Water pump, plugs, coils, these are wear and tear. It is what it is. This is my 5th BMW, and none of them have given me crazy unexpected problems except stupid SMG on an E46 M3. I should have known better. There definitely is a price difference to account for. I would be paying 25% less or so if I was driving a Corvette. Is it worth it? That’s up to you. For me, the enjoyment I get out of daily use of a BMW it is worth it. I love these cars. Just know what you are getting into. In my experience, nothing breaks that isn’t supposed to. Reliability is fine. But the maintenance costs more than a domestic, and if you skip it the car will leave you stranded. They are performance cars pushing the edge of pump gas with many advanced technologies in the engine. You cannot abuse it like a Toyota Corolla. It’s a BMW and has to be maintained like a BMW.

[@8020Media]

Morty - We really appreciate you taking the time to type out your experience and this insight. It will certainly help future viewers!

[@teehills007]

@gg-ip3zo lol read the last paragraph buddy

[@jermainephillips5179]

The heat is what was killing the valve seals...4k oil change is a must...

[@8020Media]

Jermaine - Absolutely agree with this!

[@thetechgenie7374]

Absolutely but typically just go with the n63 TU technical update and avoid BMW’s with the original N63 if buying use. Even with shorting the oil change intervals they have other costly fixes like the injectors, timing, valve guide seals and etc that need to be done to The best motor BMW made and my favorite to work on was the straight inline 6 bmw m54 engine. Use to be a BMW master technician.

[@Raeeban]

@@thetechgenie7374 what are something’s you would do to help with heat

[@shanejones578]

@@Raeebanlower temp thermostat. My n63tu1 just blew at 105k, gonna go colder on the new motor. Might tune as well, undecided.

[@DabbaD-u9g]

I have a 2012 750Li xDrive. Bought at 90k miles. At 108k now. 2 quarts every month every other month. Replaced cooling / turbo lines, catless down pipes and intake. 0-60 3.5 . Hellcat, mustang And camero killer is what i call her. Hit 130 plus routinely and otherwise. It is a beast of a machine. I use fuel additives at every fill up and use 93 strictly

[@8020Media]

U - Sounds like you've got a good one. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@brownhornet1975]

Woa!!!

[@MeticulousMobileDetail]

I am looking at one 2012 same model 89k miles for $8500. Have you had any issues since?

[@tiankata1]

As Always- the Best Motors from BMW are the In Line 6 Cylinder! M54 is my favorite and the B58 from the New Era vehicles!

[@8020Media]

Tian - They are great engines.

[@gg-ip3zo]

Agreed, I had a M54 with 200k+ miles on a X3 when I was 16-18 years old and I redlined that engine Atleast a couple times a day and drove it daily. By the time I sold it, the engine still hasn’t blown up. More reliable than any Toyota, can take a huge beating.

[@teehills007]

@@gg-ip3zour smoking crack if u think ANY BMW IS EVEN NEARLY AS RELIABLE AS A TOYOTA 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@gg-ip3zo]

@@teehills007 It’s a personal experience thing, for me personally I’ve had multiple Japanese cars that can’t take a beating. They’ve all had engine or transmission issues. I’ve worked at Toyota and a lot of employees choose German cars to drive. The only German brand I’ve had issues with is the Audi products. But otherwise, if you’re looking for performance, tune-ability, harsher environment tolerance. German is the way to go.

[@teehills007]

@@gg-ip3zo I don’t know, maybe I haven’t done enough research on BMWs but I don’t fully agree with that. There is no way you can convince me that an Audi BMW or Mercedes is nearly as reliable as a Toyota Honda. To make those cars reliable you have to rebuild all the internals 😂. There are many examples of Japanese cars that will take tons of boost on totally stock internals no problem.

[@sketchyskys6503]

Hey BMW mechanic here, and after owning just an N63, I had to do the valvestem seal job, and quoting up the seals at BMW is 13K in labor but parts are 760$ really is the labor that’s just expensive and decently hard job but got it done 👍 watch y’all’s tailpipes for white smoke n63 owners most likely answer is valvestem seals!!!!!

[@8020Media]

Nice work! Ludicrous quote from BMW but I guess that's what you'd expect...

[@highkinggames748]

$13K in labor alone that’s insane

[@whitenoiserelaxation8051]

​@@highkinggames748not really lol I need my injectors reprogramed and replaced 8k😢 dude I just had a daughter. So I decided to do myself . Very f#**# hard but doable 😅😊

[@akashmohan999]

My 2011 550i with the non-tu engine just rolled past 96k miles. Only ever replaced leaking plastic coolant lines for 600 dollars. Nothing else

[@8020Media]

Akash - Thanks for sharing your experience! Sounds like you've got a good one.

[@dwightraine9686]

I was looking at the 2022 M550i and even test drove one, I was impressed. But then, as I did, my research problems with the motors became apparent. The oil problems they’re overheating. It was too much to have to deal with and pay 80 to $90,000. For that car. The engine is the heart soul of any car if the engine is bad or problematic, your best served to stay away from it. I chose a different car. I think I made the right decision..

[@8020Media]

Dwight - What did you end up going with?

[@eduardlast23]

You missed out those engines at this point are way better than before and you have 3-4 years warranty with bmw

[@8020Media]

Ed - Good point.

[@Lukiusa]

​@@eduardlast233-4 years warranty is no guarantee these engines start to break down after driving 70k miles.I know because I have an n63tu myself. I have replaced the engine with a new one.the engine died after driving 79k miles

[@jamesmedina2062]

All cars need modifications. The N63 M550 probably needs a good oil cooler and then it will be fine.

[@garyvanremortel5218]

Your info is spot on. I had the valve stem seals replaced with Elring Viton ones and my 2014 is running great at 95Kmi. Walnut shell blasting of intake valves in the near future. Other issues are transfer case fluid changes needed every 20Kmi, crankcase vent pipes cracking, water leaks in rear hatch destroying stereo amplifier, and coil failures.

[@8020Media]

G - Thanks for the feedback and sharing your experience!

[@miguelvega7769]

Man, I have a 2010 X5 xdrive30i E70 N52, when I tell you I’m way to happy with it, over 210k miles and easy to work on, I was this close years ago to get N63 but my dad said who was a master bmw mechanic before he retired said hell no😂😂

[@8020Media]

M - They aren't all bad, but your dad gave you great advice! XD Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@ahmadalghunaim2467]

i have owned a bmw 335is 2011 with n54 engine and i tuned it with full bolts on reaching approximately 420 WHP dyno dynamics and to be honest i did not face any trouble with the engine (except the fuel injection which i have to upgrade because it was failing the tune up). the car lasted with my until 2020 with the same modification. it was a really good reliable car for a sport design cars.

[@8020Media]

Ahmad - Thanks for sharing your feedback! Sounds like you have a good one.

[@livingthelife8443]

Gotta go index 12s

[@maxthemaltesedog3597]

I have a 750i n63 engine with 150,000 miles . Just do regular old changes every 3000 miles and all the coolest hoses have to be changed because of extreme heat in these engines . Specially the ones on top of the engines . It’s not a civic so you need to be on top of it ALOT guys .

[@8020Media]

M - Well said!

[@KillSwitchGarage]

I usually suggest people to do oil changes every 10k/kms , performance engines even 6-7k , first of all oil costs nothing today so do filters and it is always cheaper to keep it maintained well than dealing with consequences, but trying to feed that information to people is often kinda hard, some read about ridiculous maintenance numbers and actually believe that they should rock with it and think it is waste of money...

[@8020Media]

K - Well said!

[@rodjones101]

Never thought my love/hate relationship would be with the N63 . But she's soooo hard to quit.

[@8020Media]

R - So true...

[@paulborys8147]

Bought my 2008 750li in 2010 with 80k miles. 164k now with no major engine issues. Oil changed 4-5k. Original battery finally giving out now 9/23. Got my monies worth on this one.

[@alexanderfollowsChrist]

You sure as heck did man

[@8020Media]

Paul - You absolutely have! Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@zhihengli8051]

N62 is reliable just some leak issues

[@topnews1007]

Just give it time major expensive problems will happen.

[@alexanderfollowsChrist]

@@topnews1007 Take those bad vibes somewhere else your failures don’t gotta be someone elses

[@jamesalexander556]

In the market for a 2022 Alpina B7. I know they have the N63, but I also know Alpina has done a lot of internals work, added intercoolers, and done a lot of work to the block. I was wondering if u had any info on reliability issues or exactly what was changed/tuned by Alpina. Thanks!

[@8020Media]

James - The Alpina versions are certainly more stout. Given you are looking at a 2022, we don't have mucch to say, yet. In past models, ALPINA had many internal upgrades. Keep us updated.

[@jamesalexander556]

@@8020Media Thanks! And I definitely will!

[@chriscarbaugh3936]

@@8020MediaAlpina is now owned by BMW. I am willing to bet the changes are purely software!

[@nicklove222]

2011 550i 102,000 dealership did the valve covers at 85,000 , coolant lines went out at 99,000 $5300 labor & thermostat $1300 , new alternator $700 , Car runs great , I’ll be back at 160,000 😅

[@8020Media]

N - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience!

[@nicklove222]

@@8020Media No problem !!

[@TheUnqualifiedMechanic]

Great video. Very educational. 🙌 Only recommdation I would suggest is chapters in your video time line for viewers to jump to points of the video. Thank you for the in depth video.

[@8020Media]

Mr - Thanks for the feedback! Not sure if it isn't showing properly, but we do have chapters in the description.

[@paulsolovyovsky1702]

1qt of oil every 1k miles is garbage. That oil has to go somewhere. The valve seals going bad is another engine out $4k job and coils going bad is another issue. The big issue that is disastrous if you're keeping the car long term is the plastic coolant lines that disintegrate after hot/cool cycles and will lead to engine failure. BMW charges hundreds of dollars for parts that are injection molded for a few bucks and instead of using rubber hoses the plastic lines and connectors is something that is made to fail on purpose with BMW not caring about the car owner. This is why most of the cars they have in the US are leased and why they lose their value and cost less than a used Accord/Camry after 3-4 years.

[@8020Media]

Paul - Completely agree. Thanks for taking the time to add this insight!

[@AlienCreatureThing]

Honestly I was torn between getting an M550i because of the engine. My second choice is the M440i and I think I’m going with that just because B58 has gotten better reviews

[@8020Media]

A - Both can be great, but in our opinion the B58 will be more reliable. The fact that Toyota is using it says a lot.

[@adambeaulieu5696]

My 2012 N63 E70 had a complete engine failure at 104,000. Expensive lesson learned. No more BMW unless its under warrantee!!

[@8020Media]

Adam - So sorry to hear this... Do you happen to know the culprit?

[@adambeaulieu5696]

@@8020MediaNah, I would have had to pay to have them tear apart the engine. I think it was the timing chain. I wasn't going to drop $20k on a new motor, as painful as it was to salvage her.

[@8020Media]

That stinks. Sorry Adam. Hope you have better luck on your next vehicle.

[@jasonjacobs2019]

I just bought a 2012 with 106k. Now I'm scared

[@adambeaulieu5696]

@@jasonjacobs2019 The car was amazing.....until it wasn't. knowing what I know now I would sell it and move on. Unless you work on it yourself. A new engine is around $20k and that is pretty much the most expensive thing that can go wrong. If you are OK with that then enjoy. If not...run! :)

[@clevelandaeromotive]

CAUTION: although the original N63 finished being made in 2012, supply and applications of it didn’t end until the end of the 2014 model-year. Thus, my 2014 X6 50i had an original, un-updated N63. Just because you’re buying a BMW that’s a 2013 or 2014 doesn’t mean you’re avoiding the original N63. Check the VIN with your local BMW dealer to make certain.

[@8020Media]

Great point! Thank you for the comment and adding some additional insights for those looking to avoid the original N63 engines.

[@kdcustoms1272]

I found a 2016 550i m sport for $18k with 87k miles... im pretty good at making my own repairs. I dont mind a issue or 2 every 20k miles or so but i dont want to be working on it every week😂 What do you think?

[@8020Media]

K - All kind of depends on how it was maintained in the past.

[@adigjyshinca7752]

So listening to this i think its safe to buy 2014 f10 550i

[@8020Media]

A - So long as the maintenance records look good and you keep up with maintenance after ownership!

[@Okorokanze2000]

Bought a used 2011 550gt years ago. I had transmission problem, valve stem issues and the instrument clusters were lite like christmas tree with less than 80,000 miles. I gave up the car and up till now, I'm scared $hitless over those V8 twin turbo engines.

[@8020Media]

M - Sorry to hear! What problems have you been experiencing?

[@Okorokanze2000]

I got rid of the car years ago. I was experiencing everything you talked about from excessive oil burning to blue smoke which the valve stems was the suspect, transmission wasnt shifting smothly, drive train malfunctions and other service lights. Fixing it would cost more than the car was worth not to mention all the money i already put into it already. Lol best decision was to cut my losses. Now I'm still terrified of n63 even if it's 2036 model. Lol

[@8020Media]

M - Thanks for sharing your experience. We appreciate and know it'll be helpful for future viewers.

[@Billy-ch9bm]

Fuel pump and fuel line went on my 750i g11 (2016 model) at 26k miles

[@8020Media]

Billy - So sorry to hear this.. Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@samp.1579]

I had a 2012 X5 50i, in 4 yrs of ownership, 8 VANOS replaced, 4 turbos, multiple injectors, spark plug and coils, fuel pumps and engine blew while the tech was driving it after a coolant reservoir replacement. Only had 88kmiles . They took the cost and I used that money to lease an X3 30i instead.

[@8020Media]

S - So sorry to hear... However, we appreciate you taking the time to share your experience.

[@jasonbrong3755]

Just got my 2013 650i drive! What should I be looking out for,oh yeah 78k miles

[@8020Media]

J - We mention everything in the video.

[@bk3e90]

2-3k in labor for a car with an orginal msrp of 90-130k i have a 2015 750li at 73k miles and labor costs for the amount of car honestly isnt that bad i am not a rich guy but prices are not to bad but i highly rec changing oil with 5w40 every 2500-3000 miles might sound excessive but i drive extremely spirited

[@8020Media]

B - Thanks for sharing your experience and insight!

[@erivtery9000]

Please get the warranty it helps saves big time my 550i had less than 31,000 miles and blew a transfer case. Thank God for the warranty or else I would have to pay close to $5,000 everything is plastic beautiful engine twin turbo cannot complain and I never dogged out the car either for this to happen after everything is well maintained and never change your oil every 10,000 miles do it at 5,000 if not 4,000 my warranty covers me three oil changes a year and bumper to bumper it's Worth every penny!!

[@8020Media]

Eriv - Couldn't agree more! Thanks for taking the time to share your experience and insights.

[@SRT_Tom]

What warranty is that and how you get the oil change plan?

[@obrienwejuli4804]

Very reliable information from you am very excited and happy indeed please provide some details on the 2013/2014 seven series thanks O'Brien

[@8020Media]

O'Brien - Thanks for the feedback!

[@flight0508]

I'm in a 2013 750i and the N63 has been very costly for me for sure. Both high pressure fuel rails went out about 5 years ago. Luckily this is a recall item and I got them replaced for free (6 months apart from one another though) The dealership would only replace when faulty. I've had to replace (2) fuel injectors due to faults. Considering the non dealership shop I used didn't install new seats, I had to replace them again recently due to the wear of flopping around. I just got the valve cover gaskets replaced on both sides and that was very costly. I had several O2 sensor issues. Replaced O2 sensors a couple of times, spark plugs fouled out a couple of times and I also just had to replace the entire wiring harness on one side because the resistance is too high and throws a check engine light. They have to completely remove the engine to to rewire. This is by the book and that is what the dealership does. Even worse, now the other side needs a new wiring harness. Luckily my new shop gave me a cheaper option. Its about 1/3 of the price of complete rewire. The BMW dealership didn't replace both sides when the engine was out and they never called me to see if I wanted to do both. $600 harness but $6000 in labor for just one side. Best advice, find a shop that only works on BMW that is not a dealership if you want to save money. I was using a shop outside of BMW that was rated high but I lost confidence in them and I found another shop that is rated even better. The new shop has 3 years parts and labor warranty vs 1 year parts and labor warranty and the new shop is a dedicated BMW that seems like they really want to keep you coming back by paying closer attention to your car.

[@8020Media]

F - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience! It'll certainly help future viewers.

[@brianrenteria9181]

Do oil change every 3k miles, tune up when needed and top with oil when needed. Also check motor and make sure nothing is melting lol

[@8020Media]

Brian - We absolutely agree!

[@philf4086]

Good video, really informative! I'm glad I did some research before I bought one of these boat anchors.

[@8020Media]

Phil - Thanks for the feedback! Our goal with these videos is not to scare, but to strictly inform. Hope you found it useful.

[@greggregorich8048]

test drive x5m you be amazed i promise you that 100%

[@evelynsahoe8896]

I work for BMW and N63s have their issues like every motor but they're not the ticking time bombs people make them out to be. BMW switched from 5k oil change intervals to 10k around 2010-2012 depending on the model, any mechanic will tell you that's a horrible idea but it is especially bad on a BMW. In my and my shop foreman's opinion that is why N55's have "rod bearing issues" and N63's got such a bad rep because customers thought they were taking care of their car changing the oil every 10-15k but they were killing it. BMW engines have such tight tolerances that if oil gets a little too thin or thick it can and will damage internal components like rod bearings in the N55's case or timing chains/guides in the N63's. The one thing I will say is unless you have solid proof the repairs have been done I'd stay away from the first gen N63's cause they genuinely have a couple repairs that could total out the car.

[@8020Media]

E - Thanks for taking the time to share this insight. It will certainly help future viewers!

[@lolman-yn3jr]

awesome video, you should do a video on some of the older engines like the m50 or s50!

[@8020Media]

Lolman - Thanks for the feedback. We will add it to the list!

[@semba_9676]

I need some help guys there is a 2012 x6 50i with 33k Miles what do you think is it gonna be reliable? Or unreliable even with low mileage?

[@8020Media]

Semba - We don't recommend making a purchase. However, most engines, depending on how they have been maintained, are good around 33k miles.

[@ArtemDzhadzha]

I own N54 (tuned, of course) and am looking at N63TU3. While listening to the list of issues, I was like, are you talking about n54 or n63? There is literary no big difference. All the same issues. HPFP, injectors, and all seals are leaking. I'm a DIYer, and I'm not afraid to buy 40-50k miles N63TU3, but if you are not, then just lease a new car

[@8020Media]

A - Well said!

[@ahmadjoudah553]

Hello Zack. I’ve got a 2013 Alpina B7 with a N63T update. The engine was produced in December of 2012 but the car is a 2013 model with the latest face lift and headlights led upgrades. I have not had any problems, I’ve had it since 2018 and it was at 60,000klm. Now I’m sitting at 80,000 klm. There was a recall where bmw replaced some fuel injectors but that was it. My question is, is this engine built more stronger and more reliable then the 750”s. Ive learned that Alpina changed the pistons and had bigger intercoolers. Is there anything you could tell me about the difference between Alpina B7 and a regular 750 and what the reliability rate is. Thanks!!

[@8020Media]

I'm not sure of all the exact specs and components that Alpina changed, but I believe the pistons, intercooler, turbochargers, and cylinder heads are all different. Ultimately, it's built to handle the added stresses, pressures, and heat from the more powerful design. However, a majority of the "standard" BMW and N63 issues - like the cooling system and oil leaks - are likely just as common on the Alpina B7.

[@ahmadjoudah553]

@@8020Mediathank you for the reply and sorry I replied to you late. I appreciate it.

[@technicalnonsense]

Hey Zach; I'm a proud owner of a 2022 M550i with the N63TU3; what would you recommend to do to keep the engine as problem free as much as possible; as of right now I'm changing the oil every 5-6k miles or 6 months. I'm currently at 25k miles and I just want to make sure I do everything possible to keep those expensive repair bills from occurring .

[@8020Media]

P - You're doing the right thing. Luckily the TU3's have a ton of updates, so they're pretty solid. Just hard to address 2022's because they are so new.

[@DrGreen-nn2gn]

I’m rebuilding mine at 121k miles n63tu blew up 2 pistons

[@8020Media]

D - So sorry to hear man.. thanks for sharing though. Hope you can get it built back to normal!

[@dahvid2252]

I saw on another channel that the N63 after 2018 is the way to go. What can you tell me about 2020 - 2021 X5 M50i ?? Buy or go with a 6 cyl X5 ? Thanks in advance!

[@8020Media]

D - We can't tell you what to choose because we don't know your budget, needs, or wants. We know what we would do, but don't like giving out recommendations for purchasing a vehicle.

[@manofsesame3024]

B58 on X5 is more than what you would need. N63 on the sedans makes them feeling like sport cars. But an SUV will never feel like a sport car.

[@Msj10934]

How is BMW still having valve stem seal issues??? Holy crap. STILL?? All these other issues you go over are common issues with lots of modern cars.

[@8020Media]

J - Agreed.

[@JoshuaAguilar-i6d]

I just picked up a mint 2012 BMW 750i xdrive for $2k, interior and body is pristine. Engine is bad due to previous owner which was a older lady that neglected low oil message. Is it worth putting a new engine in and doing all the preventative maintenance prior to installing the new engine?

[@8020Media]

J - How many miles?

[@freudsigmund72]

my 650i had about 70.000 km (43.500 miles), when the standard timing chain guide issue appeared which also caused the injectors to be affected. The quoted me with € 15.000 for repair on the engine, but stated very clear: they couldn't guarantee it would be all okay after the repair. I could also get a new engine for € 17.000, but they stated that a new engine would still be prone to the same issue after time. I love V8's, but I won't touch one from BMW with a 10 foot pole after this experience.

[@8020Media]

Very curious what is included in the 15,000 of repairs. That seems pretty aggressive as does the cost for a new engine....suppose if the quote was from the dealership then I would believe it. But you can buy a built N63 with upgraded bearings, forged internals, etc. for probably like 10-12,000 Euros.

[@freudsigmund72]

@@8020Media it was a quote from my local BMW dealer. The repair was including the timing chain guides, the injectors and maybe a few other things they wanted to upgrade while the engine was out and open. It was including labour and tax. I ended up trading in the car for a G29-M40i. But there were several dealers I asked if they wanted to trade in the F12-650i, but most declined outright. (even though the car was exceptionally equipped and in immaculate condition, were it not for the engine.)

[@8020Media]

Freud - Ah, that makes sense. Well, thanks for sharing your experience and sorry to hear about it. This will certainly help future viewers. Hope the M40i treats you better!

[@freudsigmund72]

@@8020Media the B58 engine is way more reliable and much more efficient (and with € 2 per liter fuel, that is quite handy too)

[@KK-cz1kn]

I have a 2010 750LI, there is a knocking/ticking sound coming from the engine. The top part of the engine was change within the last two years by the previous owners. Is that knocking sound a relatively manageable repair or should I just cut my losses?

[@8020Media]

K - When was the last oil change?

[@mbashir393]

This engine had a law suit and free to replacement but miles should be less then 130000miles by 2022 ,and the bmw service person lied to me in 2021 ,till now I still have the oil burning issue

[@8020Media]

M - Sorry to hear this..

[@fredjones554]

Valve stem seals? How does a company mess this is in 2015?

[@8020Media]

Fred - yep....

[@QuirkCM]

EXCELLENT evaluation! Thank you!!

[@8020Media]

Quirk - Thanks for the feedback. We hope it helps!

[@BassFraud]

Would love to see a S63 engine review and comparison as well!

[@8020Media]

Anything for you Bass! We'll get it on the list.

[@8020Media]

Keep an eye out on October 26th!

[@thecynicalafro160]

Meanwhile this very appealing 2011 X6 50i full option leather dashboard for sale in Dubai😢

[@8020Media]

T - How many miles?

[@a7encrypted]

Is it possible to take a 2012 650i to bmw itself to get the technical updates ?

[@8020Media]

If you're asking if you can make your N63 something like a N62TU2, the answer is no. It isn't just software updates but changes to the actual motor itself

[@8020Media]

A - No. Technical updates are completely different engines. Gere's a link that will break this down more: bmwtuning.co/bmw-n63-vs-n63tu-vs-n63tu2-vs-n63tu3/

[@MuykeOfficial]

Does new generations of these engines suffer from major issues? Something like m850i?

[@8020Media]

M - Hard to tell as of now. Not many have been tested. However, the newer the generation, the higher the likelihood that past problems have been addressed.

[@causewecare66]

The n63 does not even have a dip stick to even check the oil .. 🤬 u have to rely on sensors & the front display on dash to check the engine oil level

[@8020Media]

A dipstick would be a nice back-up option. However, the N63 isn't alone in the lack of a dipstick as this is common practice on just about every modern BMW engine. The N54, N55, N20, B48, B58, etc. do not have a dipstick either. Fortunately, the computer and sensors are very accurate and rarely run into any problems.

[@livingthelife8443]

Doesn't bother me at all

[@topnews1007]

Don't forget about the lower bearing problems.

[@8020Media]

Top - Thanks for the added insight!

[@LongDistanceMotorcycleFans]

Oh my! I was considering a 2012 550i but this is terrifying

[@8020Media]

Long - Our goal with these videos is not to scare, it is to strictly inform. N63's can certainly be reliable, just need to take great care of them!

[@captainamerica9353]

Is it the black one from Texas on eBay?

[@jamesmedina2062]

check receipts

[@viper22jc]

dont get it. I had a 2012 550i xdrive. car was super nice, but the oil consumption due to valve stem seals will cause a nightmare.

[@8020Media]

Viper - Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@ferrasjr3653]

Do these problems affect the s63 2013 x6m

[@8020Media]

F - We have a video for the S63 that may be more helpful: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJvRgpaGjb56obc

[@jeffcollier8780]

Had a friend buy one. Never hear about it anymore. Terribly purchase.

[@8020Media]

J - Thanks for sharing this experience.

[@fusestation2839]

from specs that I read, N63 drink fuel like crazy, pretty much twice from VR38DETT, also they using compact buttom stock, unlike the 5GZ that FC really good compare to VR38DETT....this engine crazy, it drink fuel a lot.... -:so my question where you wanna go with this engine since the gas tank quite limit .....no way you can drive from night to morning in wangan highway....even in Malaysia subsidy for this cars that been throw for overseas investor around RM3 million

[@8020Media]

F - Honestly, go with a different vehicle.

[@MikeJones-ko9ro]

Bmw replaced the engine in my 50I at 62k before I bought it with eith 70k at 106k now 2 and half years later not too major

[@8020Media]

Mike - Thanks for sharing your experience! Make sure to stay on top of maintenance, especially with it being in the 100's.

[@MikeJones-ko9ro]

@@8020Media nice bill for 3k for front suspension and oil Cooler lines and brakes and rotors sport package at that

[@bobtyler7553]

Hey Zack, I have a fairly pristine 2012 750i with the same engine from Hell your talking about on this vid. Same problems and all locked up. I acquired the car for a dance and am really thinking about a LS swap for it. What is your thoughts on that? Is it worth it or would it be a money pit? Thanx for your videos. You Rock.... Bob Tyler.

[@8020Media]

I've seen some LS swaps on the older E38 7-series but nothing for your F01. My guess is there aren't any pre existing kits out there for it which will probably make it quite expensive and ultimately more expensive than it would be worth. At that point I would rather try to swap an S63 into it but really depends on your budget, power levels you're looking for an so forth. A 750 is so heavy it's not really an ideal candidate for a crazy build and also doesn't quite have the same aftermarket support.

[@livingthelife8443]

Wrap the manifolds and get a better oil cooler

[@8020Media]

Living - Thanks for the insight.

[@misterrutroh7116]

I recently saw a 2014 750i with 88,084 miles on it but after watching this video I think I might pass on buying it. Seems like too much of a gamble.

[@8020Media]

M - All depends on how well it's been maintained. But expect to do a lot of maintenance around 100,000 miles.

[@BassFraud]

Another BMW upload 🎉 Lets go 👏🏽

[@8020Media]

Bass - Thanks for the continued support! We have your requested video in the queue.

[@afreeman5609]

A different motor but a bmw none the less... but I've owned bmw's and managed to get over 300k out of them. I don't know how many miles I would've eventually reached as one was wrecked and another I sold due to the offer being to good to pass up.

[@8020Media]

A - Thanks for adding your experience! Sounds like you take great care of your vehicles.

[@gendaminoru3195]

comments on S63?

[@8020Media]

G - This video is all about the S63: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJvRgpaGjb56obc

[@mauricemaingot5633]

N63tu is the updated version 2014-18 please don't be scared to buy. There is something called Car Shield and warranty. If stuff breaks in it use Car shield and pay 120$ a month to protect your major components like engine transmission and all electrics in your car.Dont drive your X50i like a SRT doing burnouts and Rev outs they also got problems to those things are in the shops like crazy to😂

[@8020Media]

Maurice - We don't intend to scare people in these videos, strictly to inform. Thanks for sharing your insight.

[@mauricemaingot5633]

@@8020Media I know your not scaring ppl from buying this video is perfect this is what ppl need to hear am saying for the ppl who are hearing what was said on the video don't be scared and know what to choose from your insight from this video

[@8020Media]

Thanks Maurice!

[@mauricemaingot5633]

@@8020Media np boss keep up the good work

[@philipellison8931]

Went to buy a 2018 BMW M550i Xdrive found that no one would warranty the power train.

[@tombrennan6312]

So when did "iteration" become a synonym for version?

[@8020Media]

"Version" typically refers to a specific release or variant of a product, software, or creative work. It indicates a distinct stage or edition that incorporates changes, updates, or improvements over previous versions. For example, you might have Version 1.0, Version 2.0, and so on. On the other hand, "iteration" refers to the repetition or successive refinement of a process, design, or idea. It involves making incremental changes or adjustments to improve upon previous versions. Iteration often involves feedback, evaluation, and small modifications aimed at achieving a desired outcome. It is commonly used in software development and other creative fields. I dunno Tom, I'll have to ask my high school english teacher. What I do know is who tf cares.

[@Leanderen]

Wasnt the N62 2008-2012? Not the N63?

[@8020Media]

There was some overlap between N62 and N63 production. The BMW N62 was largely phased out after 2010 with the N63 becoming the primary engine in 2011. However, the N63 was released in models like the X6 and 750i a couple years prior to that.

[@Leanderen]

​@8020Media Got it! Tha k you for clearing that up for me. I have been doing a lot of research because im going to be getting the F06 650i thank you for all the info, dont stop your videos.

[@8020Media]

L - We appreciate the feedback! Don't plan on stopping anytime soon.

[@slimbaby9137]

Does anyone know please?

[@8020Media]

S - Know what?

[@slimbaby9137]

Is it possible to put swap my original N63 engine in a 2012 650i with the updated N63TU. My engine has seized up of course at 120000 miles. If so what all must I do? I really don't want to go back with the original N63. Thank you so much for replying!

[@8020Media]

S - IT's not going to be cheap.. not sure what your budget is. Have you taken it to a mechanic?

[@slimbaby9137]

Yes it's at a indy shop now. I told them I would like to upgrade to the n63TU. He was thinking. N63TU engine and dme update. Anything else? My budget is open to getting the car right. I'm crazy about the car

[@8020Media]

S - If you're willing to pay for it, then they should be able to do it.

[@Sigma.6]

There's nothing wrong with an engine burning a bit of oil. My Z4 burns nothing compared to the Prodrive model Mazda RX8 I had years ago. 😂😂

[@8020Media]

S - Well, it shouldn’t. But yes, same with our RX8 back in the day.

[@1ORTIZ3]

As a n63tu owner with 45k miles haven't had any issues

[@8020Media]

Ortiz - Good top hear! Make sure to stay on top of maintenance.

[@BLAZE45]

Your car will fail after about 70k.

[@1ORTIZ3]

@@BLAZE45 probably sooner I'm running a tune and nos

[@F10Joosbi]

@@BLAZE45what are your top 3 reason for them failing. Mine just hit 75k and I’m hoping it’s just the lpfp

[@CJOTF]

How bad is the engine 2019 N63 750

[@8020Media]

CJ - All really depends on how well it has been maintained in the past.

[@CJOTF]

@@8020Media okay cool I’ll pull the service record. Also what are some preventative maintenance that I can do to keep the major components running properly. What oil should I be running when getting an oil change and I know you stated to let the car idle for few before shutting it off does that still hold true in the newer model. I really appreciate the info feed back.

[@8020Media]

C - Preventative maintenance: fluids (oil&coolant), ignition components (spark plugs&ignition coils), walnut blasting carbon buildup. Oil: What are you planning on doing with the car? Modding or daily driving? Idle: yes, still true.

[@CJOTF]

@@8020Media thank you for responding, I will be daily driving under 4k a month due to being a truck driver. But I just went for the 2020 745e with the b58 engine

[@8020Media]

CJ - Gotcha. We love a good B58.

[@abyb1923]

Seems like 2018+ is the way to go.

[@8020Media]

AB - It definitely is!

[@alexrogers9702]

2010 650i here Still waiting

[@8020Media]

A - for what

[@rico.suave1o]

All you have to do is be on top of maintenance change oil every 3k miles and the most important don’t buy a used one wit 70k plus miles

[@8020Media]

Rico - Some excellent advise there! We agree.

[@deenojiren7979]

Im getting a 2012 bmw 750li, bro how do i keep the engine cool better????

[@8020Media]

D - Are you daily driving it? or are you wanting to mod it?

[@deenojiren7979]

@8020Media I'm daily driving, put I plan to install a M sport body kit and wrap it in satin dark grey with 21 inch rims, and drop it with coilovers, and a straight pipe but I'm worried about all these overheating problems

[@8020Media]

D - So the only performance mod is a straight pipe, then you shouldn't need to add any aftermarket cooling components.

[@deenojiren7979]

@8020Media also a downpipe

[@deenojiren7979]

@8020Media so your saying it would be sorta reliable ?

[@afreeman5609]

For what ever reason bmw engines consume oil and that seems to be true across the board, all their engines.

[@8020Media]

A - Very true.

[@gretchensumme9700]

I’ve owned 2014 X5 50i since 2016. I do love this car. However, my service and repair records are ridiculous, now at 98k miles the local dealer just told me I need a new engine. DO NOT BUY this vehicle. If you do, change oil frequently and use Liquimoly products, both oil and additives. Change plugs and coils every 20-30k miles. I did all these things and mine still failed sooo…. Get an Audi or something. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@8020Media]

Gretchen - Sorry to hear about this. However, thank you for sharing your experience!

[@apokobondoni]

Lol, audi is even worse

[@mogulme6190]

Lol don’t dare compare the n54 to the pre TU n63. They’re not even in the same ballpark

[@8020Media]

M - As in reliability?

[@joewong6107]

2016 750ix with only 41000km. N63 is a junk engine, had pieces of metal in oil filter, and shimmering oil in my last oil change. Classic pre engine failure symptoms. Maintained religiously with oil changes, etc. I’ve owned many different cars Lexus, Porsche, Honda, and Nissan and all super reliable. BMWs are junk and they are making disposal cars, don’t buy, classic money pits. Too much plastic in their engines and eats oil like nobody’s business.

[@8020Media]

J - So sorry to hear this, but we appreciate you taking the time to share your experience.

[@causewecare66]

N63 CCP - customer care package service bulletins.. avail in all countries it’s been exported too ?? If not ? Why not ?

[@8020Media]

The Customer Care Package was made by BMW North America. I'm not entirely sure if similar CCP's were made available in other countries. As to why, the CCP was not a mandatory campaign or recall so BMW didn't have to offer it and it was instead just a "goodwill" offering.

[@causewecare66]

All n63 engines - who are experiencing issues , injectors , timing , drive chain malfunction- warning ⚠️ extremely dangerous.. car goes into limp mode on free way .. not safe .. someone is going to die .. and it’s not me

[@angelpagan4805]

So from mid 2012 and up they fix the problems

[@8020Media]

Not entirely.

[@Gdupfromthefeetup]

Placing twin turbos on top of the engine is dumb! BMW of North America was sued and screwed people over especially if you went over 120k mikes you didn’t qualify!

[@8020Media]

The N63 was certainly not known for its reliability - V8 twin turbo means expensive problems when something does go wrong. The engines were problematic don't get me wrong, but offering warranty over 120k miles is tough for turbochargers, especially on an engine like the N63 that produces the power levels it does.

[@helmutvorlaufer6647]

I do not no what you are smoking but it must be some real bad stuff

[@8020Media]

H - Whys that? Cause we’re providing unbiased information and it may not be want you want to hear?

[@Standdividedfalltogether]

Worst I’ve ever owned. Bout to dump my second and never again

[@8020Media]

S - Sorry to hear! What happened to it?

[@fiily1]

"more frequent oil changes, keep oil in the trunk of the car" What you are saying is totally unacceptable, and not your fault, but poor poor engineering by BMW. My advance, is RUN, don't walk away from any BMW out of warranty, and if the warranty is almost up, get rid of it. Biggest piles of shite.

[@8020Media]

F - It's unfortunate, but has to happen with these engines..

[@buckyoutsideee-215]

they why it's either the 535 or the M5 them 550's be on bullshit time.. 😮‍💨

[@8020Media]

Bucky - We've seen some good 550's, but they certainly aren't the greatest.

[@Gatornation2020]

BMW and there brilliant over complicated ridiculous BS designs😂. Let’s install the turbo chargers inside the engine.😅

[@8020Media]

G - Lol.

[@braveheart40kglasgow56]

Bmw cant make a reliable big engine

[@8020Media]

Brave - Not entirely true.

[@robraven7776]

Absolute Garbage !!....I'll never buy a Beamer again !

[@8020Media]

R - Sorry to hear.