#85 | Kalehua Krug | Keeping Hawai'i Hawaiian, anthropomorphism, and traditional tattooing

[@lksylva]

As someone who had to leave Hawaii as a child and misses it dearly, this podcast, especially this episode, really hits me hard and informs me Mahalo for all you do

[@nelsonleith]

Stumbled into this podcast by accident and this is the fourth ep I've watched in two days. Amazing insights all around.

[@waikaalulu9941]

Aloha kakou gange. Big aloha from Kings Landing. Bradddah Kalehua was the man that tapped many of my kakau with the moli. I love this braddah forever. My moko scream my purpose in life. I’m so glad Kalehua did um. Great podcast boyz. Much love

[@urs-]

You’re right, Kamaka. Watching this episode was 🤯. Mahalo for having him on the podcast 🫶🏻🤙🏼.

[@amushroomtrip]

Really great podcast episode. I appreciated the talking about being a light skinned Hawaiian and how to understand Hawaiian-ness. Sending good vibes from Hilo. 🤙

[@PNWTravels]

Who cares if he is “Hawaiian” whatever you are claiming. We as children had no control over what happened or where we ended up. All we can do now is have respect. Let the mana radiate through the whole world. I have learned so much from him. The language is beautiful. I started learning for fun and know about 7 phrases in a few weeks. I find the importance in the respect and connection with the land & people. Mahalo nui loa 🙏 From Washington 🤙

[@Hittdogg17]

Howzit bruddah! I'm in the PNW now too(since 1980)🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽

[@kahoonei1752]

I am really enjoying your Podcast Kamaka! Mahalo nui for providing education and insight into all realms of Hawaiian culture. I have great admiration for Kalehua Krug and am immensely grateful for this interview. I am not of Hawaiian descent but my husband is Native Hawaiian and in his retirement years is finally trying to reclaim his cultural identity at age 65 so together we are learning ʻōlelo. As part of my journey in trying to learn, I seek out videos or film shorts that are in ʻōlelo just so I can hear it spoken. With that being said, I am so glad you took time to converse in ʻōlelo Hawaii with Kalehua and would love to hear more ʻōlelo in your interviews. I understand very little of what is being said but thatʻs okay. It forces me to pay closer attention, pausing when I want to research a word. My hope is more and more is being spoken in casual conversation so it eventually becomes the dominant of the two "official" languages here in Hawaiʻi. I would even go as far as saying that I hope you would do these podcast completely in ʻōlelo Hawaiʻi if your guest is fluent, than why not speak your native tongue. I know that would discourage your "American" or ʻōlelo Haole listeners/viewers but this is after all Hawaiʻi and not America. Subtitles?

[@cardiac161]

Mahalo for this podcast! His lifehack of learning 'olelo Hawai'i is such an inspiration! A'ohe au koko aka ma Hawai'i ko'u one hanau.

[@Kaleookamahina]

Mahalo. When you grow up with the false narrative of annexation by a superior power, you deal from a position of inferiority with a lack of true cultural identity. When you learn the continuity of our Hawaiian Kingdom was never extinguished because of our Queen's intelligent international strategy, you discover an inner strength with a great cultural rebirth with a weight lifted off of your shoulders. I agree with Kalehua that Hawaiianess is an ideology…a way of being. I'm now 76. Ethnically I am chop suey-Hawaiian, French, Spanish, Chinese, Filipino. My nationality is Hawaiian. It's my belief the U.S. will be forced into compliance of de-occupation of the Hawaiian Kingdom in my lifetime.

[@jchyldz]

This is alot of information that most braddas and siestas have to take time to process. Love the progress you making to understanding my braddah

[@debraknorenberg1163]

If I never told you this before, I'm sorry and bettah late den newah. I really enjoy your podcasts! Keep up the great work! Aloha, Koonohiokala, (just one of many b.t.w.)

[@epikopo]

So many wonderful nuggets of wisdom. Thanks for this episode, both of you.

[@brandiwiththeajna]

Mahalo nui loa for this 'ike!! Beautiful and important mana'o; I'm definitely saving this episode to re-watch.

[@mommysina]

I really enjoy how your podcast highlights talented and educated Hawaiians. Your discussions are very thorough and spiritual. I have to disagree with Kalehua Krug on Hawaiian not being an ethnicity, because it most definitely is an ethnicity. If Hawaiian is not an ethnicity, then neither is Samoan, Tahitian, Tongan, Niuean, Uvean, Tuamotuan, and all of the other Polynesians. According to Mr. Krug, if Hawaiian is an ideology and not an ethnicity, then all other Polynesians are not ethnic. Also, the way you said that Hawaiians don't even look Hawaiian anymore was very hurtful. People with dominantly Haole or Asian blood (or any other ethnicity) who have great grandparents who were Hawaiian are the ones who don't look Hawaiian anymore. There are a few hundred pure Hawaiians who still exist, who don't look haole or Asian, they look Hawaiian/Polynesian. Saying things like skin color or physical features don't make a person Hawaiian is very hurtful also, this coming from Mr. Krug, who looks like a haole with a red tan. I was wondering if Mr. Krug is so covered in tattoos to prove his "Hawaiian-ness" in some way. If this is so, it is very sad. He is denying his dominant race, which is Caucasian (don't know what ethnicity his Caucasian side is), and then saying that you don't need dark skin to be Hawaiian (which is denying an absolutely integral part of being a Hawaiian person). I think a good way to feel at peace and at home in yourself and your identity is to accept your dominant race, while acknowledging that you are also part Hawaiian, or have Hawaiian ancestors. Two light-skinned men with no Hawaiian physical features agreeing that you don't need dark skin and Hawaiian physical features to be considered Hawaiian appear to be trying to erase what the Hawaiian race is. Yes, there is the culture and values, which anyone can love and participate in, but Mr. Krug shouldn't reduce Hawaiians to an ideology because he himself doesn't have dark skin or Hawaiian physical features, but looks haole. It is a fact that actual dark-skinned people, with thick black hair, and with large strong bodies created the Hawaiian culture, or ideology as Mr. Krug puts it.

[@johnthomasdesign]

Great guest

[@808kekaboi]

Killa episode!!🤙🏾🙏🏾

[@KeepitAlohaPod]

Mahalo for watching 🤙🏽

[@keahikimi9631]

Mahalo Nui. Ua Hele au I ke Kula o ka umeke kaeo papa malao a I papa ewalu. Aole au wala au ka olelo Hawaii he mau makahiki Elima mahahiki no, a ka olelo I liko o kou kino kou koko I loko au. Aole makemake au e Poona ka olelo Hawaii. Just wanted to say solid podcast, opens my eyes and learned a lot. I think luckily my job keeps a little bit of the language and the culture aspect in me each and everyday. Just wanted to say right on braddah mahalos 🤙🏼

[@bronnieespania3306]

Mai hopohopo e ke hoa. I ko'u mana'o, maika'i no kou 'olelo Hawaiʻi ana!

[@manuhulu]

Maika'i Loa! Really enjoyed the conversation, which touched on so many things we’re dealing with today. Refreshing perspective that really resonated with me.

[@Kiriloooou]

My keiki see him across the way, yell "Poʻo Kumu!" then run up to him to hug him :)

[@kealakoomoa8196]

I just wish you hadn’t said it’s all about the little clips 💔 this whole podcast was gold the entire way through. So good

[@KeepitAlohaPod]

🙏🏽

[@TEE_SUNSHINE]

I really enjoyed this video 👏🏽💜

[@mik3670]

So amazing love this pod cast …probably the best one yet ❤

[@KeepitAlohaPod]

Mahalo \m/

[@ponokealii]

Māhalo piha Kamaka for ka makana of this kukakuka with Kalehua. I love hearing kānaka describe their journeys to revive and reclaim various parts of our culture and then share what they've learned with Ka Lāhui. I have my own ala kapu which is to fulfill the kuleana kapu that I pledged to my kupuna ho'āli'i Pai'ea Kamehameha, my 5th great grandfather, to restore his legacy to nā Kānaka Oiwi, The Royal Hawaiian Monarchy government and The Hawaiian Kingdom, and to obey his final Royal command to his nā ho'oilina ho'āli'i and his nā mamo mua ho'āli'i mahope, of which I am one, to “E naʻi wale no ʻoukou i ke kūpono aʻole pau” Ponokeali'i Kuhina Nui The Royal Hawaiian Monarchy government of The Hawaiian Monarchy

[@meijiishin5650]

1:13:00 I'm a little confused by what he's saying here. I understand that the mentality has to change for the housing crisis, but I don't understand how. The reason I don't get it is because most Hawaiians that leave cite the cost of living as the biggest factor. So, if it can't be about more jobs or more money, what is it about? What I specifically mean is-- what would have to change on a policy level? I understand what he's criticizing and I agree with it 100%, but I don't really understand what the remedy is if it's not building more houses. Money would still be required for daily life whether we live under American rule or not, so I'm having trouble seeing what would bring people back if not quality of life via cheaper goods and housing.

[@vp3970]

The solution I believe is the return of the land that rightfully belong to the Hawaiians. One cannot put toes in the taro patch or gather in the mountains if there is no land. Aina is the answer🌺

[@meijiishin5650]

@@vp3970 Yeah but my point is that if Hawaiians are in control and it's still to expensive to live, that doesn't solve the problem.

[@lilikoijuci]

​@@meijiishin5650 based on what Kalehua said, what do you think a viable solution would be?

[@meijiishin5650]

@@lilikoijuci Based on what he said, I have no clue. Because I have no idea what giving Hawaii back to Hawaiians means in a practical sense. One thing I do know is that most Hawaiians who leave cite the cost of living as the reason. So, that seems to be the root cause. I think things like the recent tax cut go a long way, but we need to enact less restrictive zoning so that we can have more housing supply and small businesses, improve public transport so people have more freedom to choose cheaper housing if they want, increase wages in state jobs, teach more Hawaiian language and culture in schools so that people working in the tourism industry have a more unique skillset by default, find ways to incentivize more local food production, etc etc. That's why the statement confused me. There's a very obvious root cause and idk why we would ignore it.

[@rkn2800]

Maikai loa Kalehua. Solid Kanaka. A couple of times I lived in the states. I also lived in a couple different countries too. Born and raised in Hawaii and home now too. Its different for Kanaka living in the states than being home. In Hawaii you take being Hawaiian for granted in many ways but in the US Kanaka tend to overexaggerate their Kanakaness in ways they would not normally do when home. Its kind of a fish-out-of-water experience that becomes permanent by virtue of the fact that you are living there, not just visiting.

[@lilikoijuci]

It's almost like a journey that was necessary for that appreciation of our ancestry. ❤

[@xy-xr1ze]

you are a gooooof

[@shock-a-bruh]

🤙🏾

[@xy-xr1ze]

gooooofff

[@xy-xr1ze]

are you hawiian???

[@islandbeast848]

Live in Texas Non Pasifika people getting tribals not ever knowing Pacific Islander history behind it kinda funny 🤣

[@lilikoijuci]

I've seen it here in Southern Alabama too 😂

[@adamwayson9229]

Kalehua for Governor, ke 'olu'olu

[@kahoonei1752]

I would join that campaign team!

[@Yasher808]

At the time of the Paulette constitution had melanated monarchs in Europe. During the time of Liliuokalani whites were freed and had usurped these black kingdoms including the Republic of America. Which had melanated politicians, business owners, melanated plantation owners and black Indians.

[@vp3970]

Huh

[@Yasher808]

​@@vp3970 i'm just saying that Queen Charlotte and the monarchy during Kamehameha and prior were melanated with white vassal armies and mixed populations.

[@horsejohnson7959]

Bradda is too late to stay pure hawaiian

[@douglaslee9010]

I Mua Kamehameha.

[@debraknorenberg1163]

I'm a Kanaka Oiwi (o Ka aina a me kahiko Kanaka). And I am totally racist cuz my fada said, the right nut won is the wiener in the race. I win. But, I wasn't all there at the time and according to my mada, neither was she so, I have to just take his word for it.

[@xy-xr1ze]

you are haolele

[@jcp4851]

what is haolele?

[@xy-xr1ze]

look at your face!!!!

[@xy-xr1ze]

you are NOT from hawaii

[@kikimonstahh6154]

He is hapa. 50/50. His skin might not be brown but the fact that you’re calling this man out or being ʻilikea tells me everything I need to know about you. As someone who’s grown up knowing this man and growing up with his kids… He’s done and continues to do more for Hawaiian culture than you will ever know. He is one of only 3 people who can recite the entire Kumulipo by heart line for line. Advocate for Hawaiian preservation, represents not only our kupuna but also us the hanauna and beneficiaries of their legacy and therefore his work. You look at him and think he’s a wanna-be and are quick to comment. Should’ve went type his name on google before you started typing in these comments. ‘O ‘oe ka haole. Maʻō kau manaʻo, kau ʻano, a kau naʻau. ʻAʻole ʻoe hana kahi mea no kou lāhui akā eia ʻoe, ho’okae ʻana iā ia. PALA NAIO!

[@vp3970]

@@kikimonstahh6154 ‘Ae, palanaio

[@mattbradley408]

@@kikimonstahh6154It’s obvious this man is true to what he stands for

[@debraknorenberg1163]

That is true. The wealth of our language is by itself substantial but, it's hard to make a living/money with it unless one studies the language, not only speaks it. In our language are discoveries of old and new waiting to be rediscovered and renewed but the key to unlock all that and more is forged by a place, practice, and people specific upbringing in my humble opinion or much of the understanding and intent will be lost/mistranslated/misunderstood. So making money via our language is not easy but, can be done through careful study by certain Kanaka. Ie: Translate: naupaka. Ie: Translate: Kauwamakaainanakahunaalii. Ie: Translate: H.K. Just a fun little exercise for contemplation with our heiroglypic alphabet letter definitions. Aloha, Koonohiokala Sorry I can only understand some not speak anymore. P.S. The only way to be found is to get lost, (just no go deep diving in the shallow). Lunalilo et al. All or not then.

[@debraknorenberg1163]

If you do the exercise you probably going say hale lu ia, ha!? lele lu ia!?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/goOzaZdtnc2jpbM