90 Days with Kaleidescape - The ULTIMATE Movie Platform?

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#kaleidescape #movies #4k

[@Youthman]

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[@itsratso.]

value proposition is zero. is it better than other systems, yes. is it 2 billion dollars better, no.

[@Youthman]

Value is subjective. Every home theater that I have toured that purchased Kaleidescape found enough value in it to make the purchase. But it absolutely is not for everyone. That’s why I said, at the beginning of the video, this is a luxury item.

[@bizmofunyuns6463]

I would love something like this if I didn't already have a movie collection that has cost me well over 30k over the past 20 years. I would love to put it all in one spot and get rid of my collection eyesore 😂​@@Youthman

[@Losttouchjs]

@@Youthman Where did I hear that before? 😁

[@FatalXS]

@@Youthmanagree but in this case the price is way to high for what it delivers. I would be happy to pay for all the software, streaming hardware and movies if I could use my own NAS for the storage. But once you add their storage it no longer has any value. I can also afford to pay for it but based on what appears to be just plain price gouging I would rather put my money elsewhere.

[@shaolin95]

​@Losttouchjs ah the sales man of course making claims after getting free gear. Shame

[@AlexM-ui8me]

Let's be honest, if money was no object, I think every single one of us would have this. It looks a brilliant app and I haven't seen anything that comes close to this on the market.

[@Youthman]

I would agree with you, Alex. Unfortunately money is most often the object that prevents people from being able to purchase Kaleidescape.

[@twrex-13]

@@Youthman I actually REALLY disliked the interface - maybe more than the price, even. I don't like that it rearranges tiles on you, that would be a dealbreaker for me. Of course, it does look like there are modes that don't do that, but if all you really need is an alphabetical list of movies that displays the movie posters, the moving tiles would drive me nuts. Other than that, this is a luxury car - most people want a sensible daily driver, but every once in awhile, someone wants and can afford a Ferrari. I can't hate them for that - luxury brands often have an enormous mark-up when compared against the cost of materials. What I do wonder about this is what the warranty support is like? If a hard drive in my unit dies on me, do they dispatch a tech with a replacement drive to my house to repair and replace? What about the unit's power supply? Are you just out of luck if it fails outside the warranty period? Hard drives fail. Regularly. Can you just swap in your own off the shelf drive if one goes out? Or is user-serviceability just not something this product takes into account?

[@shadowphantom2567]

The home theater market isn't that big, but significantly lowering the price would open this up to MANY more customers. I know if the price came down significantly, I would be a customer. At this time the price is just too high for me, as it appears it is for MANY people in this market.

[@Youthman]

I agree with you. That’s why I said at the beginning of the video, Kaleidescape is a luxury item. I personally wish Ferrari, Porsche, and McLaren would lower their price so I could afford one. Somehow I don’t see that happening anytime soon. 🤣

[@David25522]

@@YouthmanGood point Michael!😀

[@Antimonkat]

I'd even be okay with a decent premium for their entry-level item, but then price the storage upgrades fairly and price. The strato c players fairly doesn't seem right to mark up all three to the extent they do. But you know, not my company. Then again, is it any different than a $5,000 clock upgrade on a Bentley? Shrug

[@FrankieKennethL]

I like all the less discussed situations you covered and provided a deeper five to. It does feel like you provided a much more “real world use” type of overview which I do appreciate very much.

[@Youthman]

Thank you Frankie. I have always made content from a consumers perspective. I share things that I as a consumer myself experience things that I like, and dislike about a product and areas that I think could be improved.

[@MattVs_Movies]

It's a great system, and if space is limited for buying physical editions, then ita great way to build a movie collection. Personally, though, out of my budget, and i still love buying collectors editions of films, but i have to limit those now due to lack of space. Great review 👍

[@Youthman]

Thank you kindly Matt. Unfortunately, Kaleidescape is a luxury item and is out of most peoples budgets.

[@MattVs_Movies]

@@Youthman it's a great idea though 👍

[@bdidzena4046]

I have an unrelated question if you have a 10 inch and a 12 inch subwoofer is there any difference or improvement if the wattage and output is the same?

[@bigdogaxis]

I enjoy video reviews of premium/luxury products because they are difficult to see and experience first hand. Thanks for this review Michael.

[@Youthman]

Thank you kindly, bigdog. I do my best to provide videos across all types of budgets from extremely budget friendly products and Home Theaters, mid-tier, and all the way up to Uber expensive Home Theaters and products because I have followers in each of those categories.

[@deegates6506]

What a Platform to watch and demo to friends and family. One day in the future, this will be in my home theater.

[@Youthman]

Did you see the video that I shared earlier today? kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4rTnmBuh6mig68

[@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker]

Excellent video, very informative, thanks. For me, one of the main features of something like this is that the sorting would have to be 100% customisable: I'd want to be able to sort films by, director, cinematographer, etc (by budget, even, just for a laugh), rather than by anyone else's sorting criteria like genre or studio.

[@Youthman]

I have a feeling you’d be the only one needing to sort it by budget lol.

[@garryhammond3117]

Great review Michael! - Very clear and detailed. - This is an impressive system, but I can see where costs could mount up pretty quickly. - Probably not for the casual movie viewer. It does certainly give the user a high level of convenience and configurability. - Cheers!

[@Youthman]

Thanks Garry. Yes, this definitely isn’t for the casual home theater enthusiast.

[@SOUNDINTHECITY]

Awesome product! Very pricey, but does what it states so well.

[@mephInc]

I like their software but I'll continue to build my own servers. I do appreciate the review so I can see where tech is headed. To all of those complaining about price: I don't see any of you crying about the price of top end speakers, disc players, amps, projectors, etc. The top of the food chain will always be expensive.

[@ronmurphy4234]

I guess that's why people purchase a sound bar and Netflix or one of the other streaming options. This product has always been focused towards the high-end market and people who have hugh investments in their home theaters.

[@paulupton7698]

This is super exciting.

[@robertmason9465]

Good video hoping down the line maybe in a few years they can offer a less expensive version for the everyday movie collector. I own over three thousand movies on physical media. That is combination of DVDs, Blu-rays Laserdiscs, and 4Ks .and yes, my Pioneer Elite DLV 90 Laserdisc player still works

[@Youthman]

Wow! Thats an incredible collection. I too hope someday in the future they have a more affordable solution.

[@travelingtrekez7034]

There it is! I am in the same situation; I own over 1K movies in all major formats: VHS, Laserdiscs, DVD, HD-DVD, Blu-rays, 4K, etc. The scape would only get added if I felt that licensing would not be an issue. Long live the Laserdiscs. I have mine hooked up to my Denon A1H. Plus, it is fun to go down to my local Music and Movies store to look for what people have turned in!

[@airman6822]

I saw an in-person demo of this locally last week. I knew these were pricey but had no idea how much. For the ultimate system, money no object, hands down the right option. For the everyday guy, probably not. It would be interesting to see if AVR manufacturers could integrate this into their units or at least an add on for a lower price. I think if you could get a descent system, sub $3k area, you might have a larger audience. For now, maybe I'll stay on the PLEX path and see how it goes.

[@Supergoldencris]

Having top notch source material makes a lot of your other upgrades worth it IMO

[@jimsandberg2000]

Once you purchase a movie from Kaleidescape is it downloaded and stored on you NAS or is it on a cloud server?

[@Youthman]

IT's stored on a local Kaleidescape Server like this - bit.ly/Kaleidescape_Compact_Terra_Prime

[@chattingwithshap8010]

A few questions 1. What is the minimum amount you’d have to spend to get a good experience? 2. Is the sound better than a 4K blue ray disk? 3. How much better is the picture and sound than streaming? I have a dedicated theatre room and would consider this, but I also have about 50 or so 4K disks. Thanks so much for all you do. I love how professional and courteous you are.

[@Youthman]

Is a great question. Take a look at the link in the description to Audio Advice for Kaleidescape pricing. Although the file size can be larger on Kaleidescape than a 4K disc, you might not be able to hear or see a difference between the two. The difference between streaming and Kaleidescape is the same difference between streaming and a 4K disc. It’s night and day, especially for the audio. I really appreciate the kind words. I’m grateful that you’re enjoying the videos. Always glad to help when I can.

[@MasterMark5]

Basically its for the convenience of being able to pull up a movie list and hit play, you get movies much earlier than disc release, and sometimes you get a less compressed version of the movie. Does it look or sound better than the disc? Potentially slightly better on giant movies like avatar 2 which have a ~150GB plus file which can't fit all on 1 4k disc. Scripts are fun for showing demos and it has some integration with smart home systems like crestron, lutron, etc. The only people getting kaleidescape are likely spending 75k+ on their theater so if that's not you I would stick to something like a Panasonic 820 and 4k discs for the time being

[@Youthman]

You are spot on Mark.

[@MasterMark5]

@@Youthman Any plans for mwave to ever visit the East Coast? I would love to come hear jtr and experience the show but its a bit far for me to travel to currently

[@Youthman]

At this time we do not have any plans to move MWAVE. We have folks traveling from all across the US, as well as Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Canada, Brazil and the UK. We would love to have you join us one year.

[@brianaustin8136]

You would think they make the most money off of the movie sales and would wanna get the product into as many homes as possible, but that must not be the case because their hardware is seriously marked up for what the product is at its core. I dunno if I was them i would be worried about another company eventually coming along and taking over the market they started.

[@Youthman]

My understanding is they make very little off of the movies. The studios make all the money from those sales. I’m all for competition as it pushes companies to be innovative, to make better products and to make them more affordable. Kaleidescape has been in business since 2001, and there has yet to be a single company that has been willing to jump into this space.

[@Antimonkat]

Yeah there should be some markup, just like in retail, but they wouldn't make a huge margin even still, the studios aren't going to give a discount to protect disc sales (makes you wonder how streaming manages to be profitable, sheer scale I guess) but there are also significant costs in mastering the movies from the cine files to a distributable, and the bandwidth needed for distribution. Licensing costs is still most of it though, the studios are getting in their own way ultimately. All that said, I still think for what it is, the equipment cost is their biggest liability and it's all just marked up for their own reasons. Maybe that's what they need to do to be profitable now, but if they could sell more for less and make the same, or more money, it would be better for everyone. But then too, if it costs a lot, it looks nicer for the premier clients installing these in their 100K plus theaters. But you know, a lot of people, myself included give Kaleidescape a lot of grief over their pricing, and yet somehow, MadVR is largely left alone. Why is that? Is the perceived value somehow better? Or do we inherently think their hardware is more expensive baseline? Maybe because it just doesn't have anything to compare against. Some of the fault of their cost lies with Nvidia, and they do have a lot of custom software, which isn't cheap, especially for a small team and small install base, but I think really they shouldn't be as off the hook for their pricing. It also is a premium product marked up beyond what the mass home theature community (as small as that already is) will be willing to pay for what could be a marginally improved experience for most. I get it, it's magic for some if you have screen masking and an anamorphic system etc, but on the average viewing experience with mid tier screens and projectors, does it extract that much more from your image? Probably not? Full disclaimer, I've never seen a side by side so.... Is that something Mwave could/is doing? That would be fun, same source, with, without madvr out.

[@Youthman]

We actually did just that at MWAVE 2022. I was busy handling logistics during the event so I only was able to see. Small part of the projector comparison. Kscape and madVR both get plenty of heat regarding price. People claim they can build one themselves for cheaper but the reality is they can’t. These are both relatively small companies. I do not know their cost of overhead, R&D, marketing, salaries etc. But there’s plenty of room for other companies to come along and make a competitive product at a cheaper cost but we haven’t seen that happen so I’m guessing it’s much more difficult to do than one might think.

[@brianaustin8136]

@@Antimonkat I think mad vr doesn't catch as much grief because the amount of ppl that would benefit from mad vr is very small where K scape could be used by anyone looking for the best image quality on their screen or TV.

[@Antimonkat]

​@@brianaustin8136 fair point, or just the convenience of a digitial media, of any quality, without the downsides of streaming, or piracy. I'm pretty done with physical media for a number of reasons, and I'd probably go for the kscape if the hardware was priced "fairly" by my estimation, and that value proposition is different for everyone for sure. Kscape has utility for all movie watchers, MadVR and things like the NZ9, you're right, aren't desired, or valued by nearly the same level of audience.

[@J-Travels]

Does Kaleidoscape offer audio tracks in different languages like Spanish? For movies

[@ShampooTime]

Can you set up your own demo reel, for example once it's set up you just press play, and it'll play 5 minutes from one movie than 2 minutes from another, maybe a section of a song, all seemlessly?

[@ShampooTime]

oh at 7:40 you have scripts nice, i commented too soon :)

[@Youthman]

No worries! Glad the video answered your question

[@johnhudnall5679]

How does it compare to your R_volution?

[@marcosdellavalle2309]

So if i want watch Netflix, Apple or Amazon movie, mini series how do i do that on Kaleidescape?

[@Youthman]

Kaleidescape isn’t a streaming platform.

[@ChrisHVACguy]

2 questions: 1. I can choose to upgrade from a cheap benq $1k projector to a JVC DLA, OR.. get kaleidescape... Which would you choose? 2. What happens to your prurchased library if kaleidescape ever goes under?

[@jebo4jc]

I can answer #2. Most likely nothing. You'd most likely lose all your purchases.

[@Youthman]

Kaleidescape is great but I would recommend upgrading your projector first as it would lead to a much better experience with Kaleidescape.

[@Youthman]

#2 would be a question for Kaleidescape as I would only be guessing. I would hope that ever were to happen you would be able to still utilize the movies on your server.

[@ThePaulromi]

Your downloads are still on your server. Still yours

[@user-xl2qd8ri2k]

is nice system, expensive , question when buy a movie is download in HDR10 only not in Dolby Vision or even HDR+?

[@kevonmanuel]

If Apple brings out a new AppleTV with a hard drive that allows you to download full UHD Blu-ray quality movies, they have no competition. They have the best streaming quality so far.

[@Youthman]

I’m all for it. Competition would benefit the consumers. They certainly have the finances to do so. The question is, is do they want to go through the hassle of negotiating and dealing with the studios? Kaleidescape has been the only brand to enter the space since 2001. That’s a long time for nobody to step up. It makes me think there’s good reason why others have not attempted it.

[@janthomassrensen1065]

@@Youthman That´s kind of the thing with Apple. They don´t have to negotiate with the studios. Apple be like, You either agree to our terms... Or we buy You and make our own terms :-) Fun punt aside. If Apple were to make a product like the K-Scape, every movie studio on the planet would be jumping over each other to make deals. They go where the money is. Imagine an Apple iMoviePlex that cost 500 dollars. Where You can connect your own physical USB drives for storage and download movies in DCP quality. The people has voted and the people say YES Sir ;-)

[@Youthman]

Only time will tell if they are willing to enter the space.

[@janthomassrensen1065]

@@Youthman My guess is they wont sadly. They are probably making enoug dough on the iTunes movie marked. If they made a K-Scape competitor it would have to fit into the AppleTv format. They do actually already have deals with some movie companis, as many movies gets released for purchase on iTunes before being available on other digital platforms. So they could make it happen if they wanted to

[@ballstadt]

Apple has never in any way indicated a desire to go this direction. They have always been about finding better compression and smaller file sizes so you can have instant access on all your devices.

[@Gene_Splicer]

You know I've been building my Scape library without a functional theater for a bit now. A couple querky things I find (at least through the app) is I can't filter by 4k-only titles or those with Atmos. Also, I can't change the default download from UHD to HDR - I have to cancel or delete the UHD version and re-download the HDR (because no display connected). Now maybe that's because I'm using the app and there are more settings through a browser? I'll check eventually, but yes, I would love to see a "how to" in creating those demo scripts 👍

[@Youthman]

That’s great feedback Brian. Another vote for a script tutorial.

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Wow you and FOMO have one😊

[@stopthefomo]

Yep, it’s a keeper if you’re already spending over $50K for your system what’s another $10K?

[@Youthman]

I agree. Every high end theater should have Kaleidescape. It just makes sense.

[@dan_hitchman007]

$10k? It's much more than that for enough storage for a 4k movie catalog.

[@Youthman]

You don’t need to have enough storage for your entire movie collection. You can download a full movie within eight minutes on a standard drive or as little as four minutes on an SSD.

[@bzrdbrew]

I think I saw it at the end, but please clarify how an extensive physical collection would work with the system as I'm running out of space, but not looking to purchase again.

[@Youthman]

Kscape has a Disk to Digital program - support.kaleidescape.com/article/Disc-to-Digital-Offers-Using-USB-Drive The short version is you purchase an external Blu-ray Drive, insert each one of your physical media, that you want to catalog into the Kaleidescape system, and Kaleidescape will provide you with a discounted price, some as little as under $5.00. depending on the studio, it’s still discounted, but like Creed III is $24.80 so I’ll wait till it goes on sale to purchase it on Kscape.

[@jaredwilson6214]

If I purchase a movie, can I delete it after watching and then download it again later for no additional fees?

[@Youthman]

Absolutely. That’s why you don’t have to purchase a massive server. You can buy a small server and download the movies you want. If you fill it up, simply remove movies, you don’t watch that often to clear up some space to download new movies. Time is about eight minutes on the standard servers, around four minutes with the new SSD servers

[@Foxhound11]

Is the Kscape audio and video quality same as the physical UHD 4k media Blu-ray Disc

[@Youthman]

At times the Kscape file is much larger than disk due to physical media having a file size limit. Compression is necessary for some movies if they would not otherwise fit on a physical disk. Whether or not you can see or hear those differences is not certain.

[@railerswim]

Question, what happens if their servers go offline? Are you still able to access all the media? What if one of the HDD’s fail, can you swap it out or is everything encrypted

[@Youthman]

Kscape would need to answer the question regarding their servers. If a hard drive fails, you would need to contact Kscape support for a replacement. You can’t just replace the drive with any hard drive. The reason, for this is due to the license agreements with the studios. If they did not have that in place, someone could remove the hard drive, duplicate it, and either give it to their friends, or even worse, sell it for profit. The only way for Kaleidescape to continue to work with studios is by keeping it locked down and encrypted.

[@williamstohler9221]

Hard disk drive (or now SSD) failure and replacement cost are the single reason I haven't gone down the Kaleidoscape path.@@Youthman

[@Youthman]

I can understand that.

[@brucecarter6205]

With physical media on the way out, there is such a huge market for this type of media player right now. If Kaleidescape was smart they would lower their prices back down to planet earth and get a firm lock on this market segment. It’s just a matter of time before someone like Apple throws their hat in the ring and then it will be game over for Kaleidescape.

[@Youthman]

Kaleidescape has been in business since 2001. Honestly, I’m very surprised that no company has even tried to enter the space. If it was easy to do and make it less expensive, there should be plenty of competition. But after 23 years, there hasn’t been a single one.

[@brucecarter6205]

⁠@@Youthmanno physical media means this becomes a relevant product. I think you will see some competitors in the very near future.

[@KimmoJaskari]

@@YouthmanIt has to be a company that has the contacts with the studios to make those deals happen. The hardware and software is easy, but in capitalism the licensing is murder. It has probably taken them 23 years to begin to get the licensing somewhat in order at Kaleidescape... but yeah, your Apple and Google could easily do it.

[@Youthman]

Bruce, I’m all for competition because it benefits us consumers to encourage innovation and ways to make the products more affordable.

[@Youthman]

Apple and Google definitely have the financial resources and the legal department to draw up those agreements, but only time will tell if they want to get involved with that market.

[@Quetzalcoatl0]

What about subtitles ? I don't have problems with English, but some friends who i invite sometimes do, and they require subtitles in different than English language ?

[@jgnmtz]

Seems nice . I would spring for it if I was a product reviewer and could not only get a demo unit, but write the $10k off on my taxes , sign me up for that deal . Otherwise I’m just gonna do the eight 4TB bay in an old computer array , sound card, upgraded motherboard and upgraded graphics card . Storage is storage . Maybe not Dolby Vision but you can still get 4K for less than $4k

[@Sativacyborg007]

Is this the strato C player?

[@ryankramer]

Are there options to add your own media? I.E. your own custom bumpers, intros, demo introductions? And then create your own custom playlists that allows your own added media? Last I knew you had to author them as a disc to import your own stuff, which is a no from me. Also, it’d be really cool if they added Atmos music albums for purchase. Put those together and this becomes much more of a one stop shop. As it is, I’d still have to jump in and out of the system too much to currently merit the purchase. It’s a very well thought out system though. 👍🏻🙂

[@Youthman]

I have been told that you would need to send the files to Kaleidescape. They would upload it to your server, then you can create your playlists. I’m not sure if this is a service for dealers, businesses or consumers. But I have heard it’s possible.

[@jorgejovel5313]

So when are they having the finger discount?😊

[@Antimonkat]

Hey thanks for going into the movie pricing options, I didn't know they had discounts, especially such deep ones on some still decent movies, maybe pick up some great movies at a steal with this platform. Oh wait...I just noticed the asterisk...disc to digital pricing? Looking in to that, nice to have the option, but it sounds like a pain, and you still have to buy the title, so not as good a deal as I thought initally. I was thinking $5 movies, cool!, but...not so much afterall.

[@Youthman]

I just looked at that same special pricing page that I showed in the video. I own Tenet on disk, so that’s why it’s $4.92. The cheapest price I see for movies I don’t own is $7.99 and lots of movies for $9.99.

[@Antimonkat]

@@Youthman I really do appreciate how active in the community and the comments you are. It's very impressive. Thanks for the update on that. And I see you covered the disc pricing thing later in the video anyway, I just hadn't got there yet. $10 isn't bad

[@byronb.]

Wow! Always wanted to know more about Kaleidescape from an every man perspective. It has always been a dream product. Notoriously expensive. I used to be a happy home theater owner. Unfortunately "Satan" entered my life and destroyed everything. Don't know how much time I have. This video made me forget my nightmare for a few minutes. Thank you!🙏🏾 God bless.

[@Youthman]

Thank you Byron. It sounds like you’ve been discouraged. Don’t lose heart brother. Unfortunately, this life is often unfair, cruel, and painful. Just take one day at a time. “Stuff” Will never bring us joy. It’s the relationships we establish along the way that matter. Love ya bro.

[@byronb.]

@@Youthman I wish it was that simple. But thank you so much! 🙏

[@Youthman]

In no way was I implying it would be simple or easy. Just simply take it one moment, one step, one day at a time. “Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.” Matthew 6:34

[@byronb.]

@@Youthman Understood. What I have experienced actually made me question my faith. "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?" Psalms 22:1

[@Youthman]

We’ve all been there. A faith that cannot be tested, cannot be trusted. When you read through the psalms, David had plenty of doubts. But God remain faithful. When I was a teenager, I was taught that you weren’t supposed to question God. That’s not what I found in the Bible. I’ve grown to realize that God is big enough that he can handle my questions.

[@monijam1]

Kaleidescape's are amazing and I would get it if I could but of course the price is crazy high but also it doesn't offer Dolby Vision and there a lot of movies that they either don't have in 4K UHD or don't have at all...

[@ThePaulromi]

The biggest issue that almost everyone has is cost. Not a reason to hate. It was one of the last items I purchased after years and years of working on my theatre. Yes it was expensive, yes I had a Plex setup with rips, but since k-scape the Plex rarely gets used. But to put it in perspective, I’ve wanted one since they first came out and I couldn’t afford it for many years.

[@Youthman]

There’s no doubt we all wish it was cheaper. Just like I wish my dream home, a ski boat and a McLaren were more affordable. But most of the time, luxury items take many years of planning and even sacrifice to achieve those goals.

[@ThePaulromi]

@@Youthman you hit the nail on the head brother!

[@theoisaac9948]

👍 👍

[@matteoromenghi]

Next step? Downloading of DCP (Digital Cinema Package) or DCDM (Digital Cinema Distribution Master)? Maybe!

[@Antimonkat]

Ok...the script thing is really cool.

[@Youthman]

I’ll make a video on it soon.

[@ballstadt]

Lengthening the delay before shuffle would be very nice.

[@Youthman]

I think so. Or give us the choice to select the amount of delay.

[@TrueGenius]

Very cool platform and App for sure. The preorder option however, has me scratching my head. Maybe should call that “Coming Soon” as “preorder “ insinuates your copy will be reserved in case of high demand. Preordering on a digital platform is FOMO for sure, LOL!

[@Youthman]

How do you purchase “Coming Soon”. Preorder seems appropriate. When I preorder a 4K on Amazon, I pay now and they deliver it when it’s available. Same with Kaleidescape.

[@EDENZAHARONI77]

Hi, as someone that probably have some internal connections with Kaleidescape, do you know or maybe check with the team, why external subtitles are not supported, many people in the US would appreciate this option for maybe guest who do not speak English, and of course outside of the US this feature is a must, for me, I will order this system yesterday if it had this option.

[@Youthman]

I sent an email to Kaleidescape.

[@EDENZAHARONI77]

@@Youthman thank you!! Much appreciated

[@Youthman]

I just received the following response from Kaleidescape. "Kaleidescape has three storefronts (US,CA, UK) so we are limited in what some studios make available as supported languages. The is no current plan to support user upload subpicture streams."

[@EDENZAHARONI77]

That's a disappointment :( thank you for your help!

[@jadan2000]

I have a zappiti rvoluion system and a Kscape... the rvolution barely gets turned on anymore..

[@Youthman]

I need to come by sometime and check out your set up. I know you’ve made some major upgrades since I did your tour.

[@jadan2000]

@Youthman let me know when you have free time. I'm usually home during the weekends.

[@tcamm9812]

I mean I would hope so since the Kscape was $10k lol

[@Youthman]

@jadan2000 sounds good.

[@jadan2000]

@tcamm9812 if you're paying 10k for the entry system, you got robbed sir.. talk to a Dealer and get real pricing.

[@poweraudioresearch7309]

Sir external hard disk movies supported

[@Youthman]

No, due to the required encryption, you cannot use your own external hard drives. That would open up too many vulnerabilities for people to be able to extract the files and then share them publicly or even sell them.

[@poweraudioresearch7309]

@@Youthman thank for sharing the this information

[@Eva_H]

Here’s my biggest issue with kaleidoscape, even though the hardware is very well-made and things like that. The company itself is still at the behest of the studio that owns that content, whether it’s a movie or TV show. This can be problematic (specifically with movies) if studios won’t offer certain cuts of certain films(Star Wars, original trilogy, Blade Runner, 1981, alien four film collection) things like this. This is always been my biggest bugbear aside from the obvious being cost. I do commend the company, though, for offering a more premium, streaming experience in terms of uncompressed, video and audio, with certain exceptions, in which, whereby sometimes the file is slightly bigger than the actual original version.

[@Youthman]

Yeah, unfortunately the studios have the last say and what they offer to the Kaleidescape store. Currently, it’s still the best option we have for downloading and playback of legal Digital Media. Just for clarification, I’m sure you realize this, but for the sake of those that may be new to the platform, Kscape doesn’t stream their videos. They are downloaded from the Kscape store to your local Kaleidescape server and played back across your local network.

[@Eva_H]

@@Youthman how many servers do you currently have Michael? I’m just curious. Yeah, don’t mind me. I was tired, I’ve just gone. Oh yeah, course it downloaded locally While I was watching the video, I also forgot about the disc to digital program, nice one for the reminder 🤣

[@Youthman]

I have a 40TB server and 1 Strato C player shown at the beginning of the video.

[@Eva_H]

@@Youthman That’s cool hopefully it’ll take you a little while to go through all that storage space before you have to buy another fingers crossed. How’s it gone over with the family overall? Friends? That sort of thing.

[@Youthman]

I don’t see ever needing to have a larger server. It only takes about eight minutes to download a movie so I can always remove movie from the server and re-download them anytime I want to watch them. The new SSD servers download movies in about four minutes, which is blazing fast. I actually meant to cover that in the video and completely forgot. The other day, my daughter and her boyfriend and a friend of theirs wanted to watch a movie. I handed them my phone with no instructions and said take a look Kaleidescape. Let me know what you think. My daughter’s boyfriend Michael quickly figured out that he could that he could click on the producer of a movie to see other movies produced by them. He thought that was so cool. He spent quite a while browsing through some really old movies that he had seen and really enjoyed. They ended up watching interstellar which I already had in my collection.

[@ElCidPhysics90]

Wow. I always thought Kaleidascape was a fancy Plex style server.

[@Diego-vw7kn]

can you see your movies offline using kaleidescape?

[@Youthman]

Yes, they are downloaded to your server. As long as you have Ethernet from the player to your server.

[@wdamonkey]

Aside from the actual hassle of populating my Zidoo, how would you compare the video, audio quality and interface (obviously Zidoo has no store)?

[@Gene_Splicer]

I've got a Zidoo - playback quality will be the same (as long as you ripped uncompressed) - however, I totally forget which movies I already own and on my NAS. I've already accidently re-purchased movies on Scape that I had... I need to catalog my physical collection to Scape just as a reminder of "hey dummy, you already have this on your NAS - switch to the Zidoo" 😆 Interface - at least you don't have to hunt down the correct metadata tiles with Scape 👍

[@Youthman]

It’s been a few years since I reviewed the Zidoo almost two years ago. You can see my full review of that platform here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/baDHiKl6mNagarcsi=-nWPaRFbUoOZ_QT6

[@dan_hitchman007]

KScape is about the same, to perhaps a little better than a Blu-ray or 4k Blu-ray disc depending on whether a long movie was squeezed onto a BD-66 disc like Disney did on a few of their movies. The audio quality is EXACTLY the same as a Blu-ray disc.

[@Youthman]

Yes a 4K on Kaleidescape should be very similar to a 4K physical disk. You may not be able to tell a difference in a blind test, even if the file size is slightly higher on Kscape. A higher quality file isn’t why people choose Kaleidescape.

[@squared80]

My only reservation, besides not having nearly enough disposable income (and re-buying all my 4K UHD movies again) is hoping Kaleidescape will always be around. That's a lot of money for a service that could someday go away, and along with it, all 'your' movies.

[@Youthman]

Although that is a valid concern, over the years we have seen massive companies, thrive, and massive companies die. We have also seen small businesses, thrive, and small businesses die. The same could be said of my personal investments. If the economy took a dump tomorrow, I could lose it all. But on the flipside, I could continue to enjoy what it provides the rest of my life. The reality is there’s not a single company on this planet that is guaranteed to always be around. As my wife has always told me, “you can’t live on the what if’s.”

[@reid1boys]

I would NEVER pay that kind of money for this player. It appears to be an amazing product, bu tit is just simply far too expensive.

[@Youthman]

If you made $300,000 a year, would you buy it? How about $500,000 a year? To me, it would be a no brainer. Again, this is a luxury item. It’s not a good fit for everyone.

[@reid1boys]

My wife and I live in ca. All kids are now out of college. My mortgage is only about 2k per month and we made... probably 270k last year. I still won't pay that much for this product. I MIGHT,pay $500.

[@MagnumMuscle1000]

For locally stored movies, my Nvidia Shield with Emby is far cheaper and has excellent performance.

[@Youthman]

There’s nothing wrong with that set up and that’s a great solution for DIY guys like yourself. But you’re not their target audience. Kaleidescape is designed for those who want the best audio and video with a very easy to use interface without a learning curve, additional software, setup time etc and can be used by anyone in your household without needing your help.

[@GeorgeTheaterAtHome]

Life goals. Someday 🤞

[@Youthman]

My encouragement, if it really is a goal, write it down. I’m finding in my own personal life the more I write down, the more I seem to achieve.

[@GeorgeTheaterAtHome]

@@Youthman that is excellent advice. I need to apply that to several aspects of my life.

[@Youthman]

I’m 48 and just recently started doing this. It’s never too late to start.

[@eEvangeliste]

Man Not sure why Apple  doesn’t implement this on appleTV. Instead of streaming, we are already able to download full 4K movies on iPad and iphones. It should be easy to also cut scenes to make scripts 😅

[@Youthman]

Inquiring minds want to know.

[@KevsHomeCinema]

Many people consider the video of streaming to be good enough, but the audio, and Apple is included in this, has around a 20x lower bitrate than a Bluray-disc or Kscape on full blast in an Atmos scene. I cannot stand the muddiness of streaming audio personally. But also what I've found from your comment is that the downloaded file seems to only be less than 10 GB large on iPad and iPhone, and from Apple themselves, they do not allow you to download any 4k content at all. Is this wrong?

[@Youthman]

I just looked online in the kaleidescape.com store at the file size of the following titles. Oppenheimer is 91 GB for 4K UHD Dune is 80.9 GB for 4K UHD Avengers End Game is 104.7 GB

[@eEvangeliste]

@@KevsHomeCinema Hmm I think you are right. But the quality is soooo good when you watch the downloaded content on your iphone/ipad and it’s still 100 times better than the “streamed” version. Even a downgraded “downloaded” version saved on TV will looked and sounds amazing. This could be a great answer to Kscape.

[@almac2323]

I love my K-Scape it’s worth the money! Great video, if you don’t like the price then it’s not for you! Rolls Royce makes expensive cars too , no one makes suggestions they should drop their prices. Everything is not for everybody.

[@Youthman]

Exotic cars has always been my analogy as well. I would LOVE to own a McLaren, Ferrari or Porsche. I’ll likely never own any of them, but I can certainly appreciate them and enjoy riding in my friend’s. 😀

[@rindershow212]

Yes, no one complains Rolls-Royce should drop their prices, but atleast there are tons more of other luxury vehicles ppl can consider!!. Your example comparing this kscape unit to Rolls-Royce makes no sense.

[@almac2323]

@@rindershow212 There are speakers that cost $200k and they play sound just like every other speaker, but you don’t have to buy them either ! It’s not for you no need to complain! K-Scape customers are happy with the product.

[@Youthman]

Luxury cars are expensive, no matter what brand you buy. The issue people have with Kaleidescape is the price, not that there aren’t any other options of similar price.

[@ronmurphy4234]

I've seen this products since they released it back in the day, and it was always high priced and didn't integrate a customers own movie collection without substantial costs... but with free software like KODI, and streaming services like Netflix, has this product lost it's market? I do agree it's scripting option can be an asset for sales demos.

[@we8463]

Way too expensive especially if you have bought already hundreds of 4K UHD Blu Ray there is no way that I would rebuy the movies again!!

[@Youthman]

I get it. It’s a massive investment for sure. That’s why I say it’s a luxury item. But guys that make $300,000 a year (I’m not referring to myself) and have a $100,000 or more home theater, $10,000 would be a no brainer.

[@ThePaulromi]

Who says you have to rebuy? Why not use for new movies only?

[@Youthman]

You certainly could do that too. Thats what my friend Brian is doing with his.

[@brucecarter6205]

@@ThePaulromikind of cuts the appeal in half. It would be much easier to stomach if you knew that you wouldn’t have to deal with physical media going forward.

[@Baas_Fumani]

Show us how to create your own scenes

[@Youthman]

Thanks.

[@xsonicpunkx]

I don’t know how they are still In business just on the price point alone how many of these can they possibly sell? Sales have to be lousy

[@Youthman]

Probably the same way Bugatti seems to be doing quite well at $3 - $4 million per car. If your logic was true, there would not be any luxury brands at all.

[@xsonicpunkx]

@@Youthman true. I guess the way I was looking at it was sales are not through the roof but I guess they are content with the high price point and selling to the 1 % group so to speak.

[@Youthman]

I would imagine that’s the same with any luxury product.

[@xsonicpunkx]

@@Youthman yup!!! And just like that Bugatti if I expect to get this kaleidescape I’m gonna have to save my hard earned money to get it. That is really my point is that I want this so badly but I can’t really afford it. Keep up the great work Youthman you are the reason I got into this home theater world.

[@Youthman]

Thank you brother. I’m grateful to hear my channel has inspired you in your journey.

[@Justin_Laird]

Certainly not complaining, always happy to see people who deserve nice things have nice things. However, I feel the barrier to entry for anything over “theater in a box” is getting higher and higher.

[@Youthman]

HTIB are around $200-$300. That’s a low barrier of entry. There are plenty of budget friendly Home Theater Brands that won’t break the bank.

[@Justin_Laird]

@@Youthman maybe it was a little exaggerated, however I was pointing out that in my opinion, the gap between the budget friendly or mid-range and the high end keeps growing larger. Again just my experience! Great video though!

[@Youthman]

Yeah, I see what you’re saying. But the same can be said of “budget”, mid tier and high end automobiles. I just Googled a 2024 Ford F150. It’s $65,000. An F450 is $137,000. 😳 Today we just stopped by a new community that was being built in our area to see what a $325,000 home looks like. I was blown away and how small these homes are. There are plenty of home theater systems that can be had for well under any of those prices.

[@Justin_Laird]

@@Youthman you’re not wrong there! Always great that you’re open to your subscribers thoughts in your comments. As a long time subscriber, keep up the great content Michael!

[@Youthman]

Thanks brother. Yes, I value my community and their input.

[@thomaswoodford9511]

How is the picture quality compared to physical media? Normally, streaming quality is no where as good as physical media.

[@Youthman]

Kscape is just as good as a 4K disk and sometimes better due to not having a limited amount of available space on a 4K disk. I have not done any side-by-side blind test comparisons to see if you can tell a difference between the two but my guess is you would not. Keep in mind, kaleidoscope is not a streaming platform. You were physically downloading the entire file onto your Kaleidescape server and playing across your network. Streaming is much lower quality.

[@niklasb2718]

So if you factor in the hardware needed your in it for about 200$ + the price of the movie per every movie you want to watch? Sounds resonable enough to me.

[@Youthman]

It depends on how much disposable income you have. I have friends who have spent $250,000 on their vehicle. I’m not there yet 🤣

[@jebo4jc]

I love everything about this product. I really want one. But I can't bring myself to go all in on their marketplace. If a giant like Sony can lose rights to movies that their customers have purchased, and they disappear from the PlayStation store, I'm even less confident that kaleidoscape will be able to maintain the rights to their movies. And that their servers will stay online.

[@Youthman]

And that certainly a respectable concern. Begin in business since 2001 gives me hope it will continue.

[@northeastcorals]

This is exactly the main thing that puts me off spending the amount of money that is required to go all in. I think they've had a good run so far but you just never know whats around the corner & the movie biz seems like it can be a volatile place especially when it come to licensing etc, so you do have to be aware any online library you build could be subject to unwanted change. God forbid there could even be things like increased censorship in the future which could also affect your online library. I like to have a physical copy of everything that I feel like I would not want to loose, as they say in gold investing "if you don't hold it, you don't own it". 😁

[@jebo4jc]

@@northeastcorals I think you and I are from the same cloth

[@Youthman]

A simple house fire could consume our entire Home, theater room and movie collection. Nothing on Earth is forever.

[@northeastcorals]

​@@Youthman At least my house is within my sphere of influence, unfortunately Hollywood ain't 😆

[@xordoom8467]

IMHO... Plex is a better product and a fraction of the cost...

[@PB-tc6hw]

Thanks for the review. How would you compare this system with a Plex server beyond the fact that Plex licence could be free? For my part I use Plex for free since about 4 years combined to a “homemade” server and I enjoy it. For the difference in price with the Kaleidescape system I must do not fully understand this system capabilities compared to Plex. Is Plex a good alternative or it is simply not the same ball game ?

[@Youthman]

If you are able to rip your media collection as a 1:1 bit for bit copy, and you do not mind the time it takes to learn how to do it, have a computer, 4K drive and software needed and are ok with the hiccups that’s associated with Plex, that’s a great solution. Kaleidescape is for those that want an absolute simple and reliable all in one solution that anyone in your household can use at any time without your assistance.

[@PB-tc6hw]

OK, now I understand the difference 😊. Having bit perfect ripped my media for so long, I have assumed that it is an easy task forgetting the leaning process that I went into. I believe that if Kaleidescape was available 20 years ago, I would have just go with it… Thanks for the precision!

[@DUDETHEATER]

Mike I see u have a madVR have u done a review on that

[@Youthman]

I have a few madVR videos on my channel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4uskmeYl9KGi6Msi=N8QQWtinxGJ_Yox3. There is still a lot I need to learn about it.

[@invisibles362]

I would love to have one, but I think the price is way to high for how many time I would download a movie, plus if the platform dye, you will lose all you're movies. I know that physical media will eventually disappear, but probably by then, Nvidia and Apple will come out with a streamer more affordable with the same quality of audio and video, but for now I will continue to buy 4k blue rays for the movies I like.....

[@donkeychote]

I don't think I would ever trust a digital store that doesn't let me save and playback on any device that I want. If it's locked to the vendor's system, you don't actually own the movie you "bought". It's only been a couple of months since the playstation debacle. Say that Discovery stops their licensing agreement with Kaleidascape like they did with Sony. They'll probably have to remove all the discovery content that you bought, whether you have it stored locally or not. Just like Sony had to do. And that's aside from having to pay 4x what I paid for my car for the privilege of accessing their "store".

[@akhkharu2305]

lol exactly... to pay this much of a premium for the opportunity to pay for movies a second time that you already own physical media of is a real head scratcher for me. i get that it's not just for physical media you own and that they also offer movies for "purchase" which download to the device...but to pay this much for what is essentially a few hard drives and some kinda hardware to play the files is pretty crazy. i was expecting the price to be high...but it was pretty shocking, even with my expectations of it being high. i'm all for paying a premium for things if they warrant the price..but this is pretty far beyond the pale. you can legally rip a physical disk you own onto a hard drive for playback on any number of software platforms that are very similar to this devices GUI. so the fact that they charge for the "privilege" to do this is just insane to me. add on that the entire system is locked down as you state...and ultimately under their control...yeah...nope.

[@Youthman]

The lock down is the only way they can get agreements with the studios. If it can be hacked, copied and distributed by owners, the studios would shut it down immediately. As I have stated, Kaleidescape is a luxury item. Plain and simple. I know plenty of owners who absolutely love theirs and cannot see themselves ever going back to Plex. If Plex, physical media or even streaming works for you, that’s all that matters.

[@donkeychote]

I know this is the only way the studios will allow them to exist, I'm not blaming the folks at Kaleidascape for this. That doesn't change my stance on this though.

[@motogp3478]

Great unit, could only afford one buying used but their prices are out to lunch 🙄

[@scruffy8861]

I can afford Kaleidescape but too few Hollywood movies coming out that are of interest.

[@KimmoJaskari]

I'm sure it's a great system, and it's probably going to be the only way to get full fat 4K movies in the future now that they're murdering Blu-ray and streams are compressed to dog crap. As always, though, poor people need not apply, you'll stream crap quality and like it.

[@Youthman]

Maybe one day, they’ll be able to offer a more affordable solution to get it in the hands of more consumers.

[@leighdog5866]

i get pissed off about the money being wasted in peoples communities , way better uses for it , if people are brainless enough to waste that kind of money on k-scapes good luck to them . i have a 8tb harddrive thats full of movies that i plug into my setup which costs nothing except the cost of the harddrive . no way k-scape can justify the cost for the hardware & the the continued cost for the downloads , i think the whole k-scape setup is a scam . thanks for the review michael , love ur work

[@Youthman]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I've personally been mad at how someone else chooses to spend their hard earned money, even on luxury items like boats, watches, automobiles, RV's, flying First Class, etc. We all spend money on things that bring us enjoyment. I'm not sure how you can view Kaleidescape to be a scam when it delivers exactly what it claims to.

[@leighdog5866]

@@Youthman the word scam was more focused on what the salesman say to customers to sell these , i strongly doubt it was the truth & the fact that these wouldn't be selling for whats its costing to build them in parts etc therefore i think the mark up on price is ridiculous . I also dont think its a super dooper world never seen before technology thats all in the box like they say it is , i think its just a glorified hyped up 4k bluray player that excepts downloads with a harddrive , and now with a special super dooper ssd technology for thousands the same the world industry has been using ssd for 20years that are now almost nothing in cost . I think a like the madvr i would to see a full breakdown of the products on video & on youtube so everyone can truely see what they are up to with everything inside them .

[@Youthman]

If it's easy to replicate their "glorified hyped up 4K bluray player that accepts downloads with a hard drive" for much less, I'm honestly curious why one single company over the past 23 years they have been in business has not made a product to compete with them. Not one.

[@Baas_Fumani]

Again show us how to create our own script

[@Youthman]

Got it!

[@dougdavies4032]

Kaleidoscape Is To Expensive WHO Can Afford I Can’t Physical Media To The Way to Go

[@PB-tc6hw]

Strange… I had a comment/comparison about a Plex server and it disappeared. Did you delete it? If so, please let me know why so I can amend my future post on your channel. May be I was too specific or lengthy of my description of Plex? Thx.

[@Youthman]

No. I don’t delete comments unless they are racist, super vulgar etc. I’ll see if KZbin flagged it. If you added any links, it’ll automatically flag it because of spam and porn bots.

[@Youthman]

I just looked an do not see any of your comments being "held for review"

[@Youthman]

The most recent held comment was from 3 weeks ago. Maybe it disappeared into the Matrix or something.

[@PB-tc6hw]

@@YouthmanThanks for looking! It was not vulgar nor racist and did not have any links added to it since I have nothing to sell. As you said it must be somewhere in the infinite universe of the Matrix 😂. Instead of rewriting my lengthy comment, I will post you a question on a new tread, see you there! Thanks again and best regards from Québec.

[@Youthman]

Sounds great brother. Let me know if you have any further issues posting comments.

[@keepingupwiththejones2933]

Do you have a cold again 😢❤ feel better. Be prepared for the comments about how you only review high end products now and how you have changed 😂😅

[@Youthman]

Yes, I’m still trying to get over the cold I got when we went on our trip to Utah snowboarding. Voice is much better, but still struggling. I’m prepared for the comments. I’ll just send them to the recent videos of the HSU sub, the SUPER budget friendly Home Theater Tour I posted a month or two ago, Edifier headphones, Hisense TV, Definitive Technologies speakers and many others 🤣 Oh and Outlaw Audio just reached out to me yesterday. I have a call with them next week. My personal Home Theater has definitely upgraded over the past 17 years. By me myself, I’m still the same guy that celebrates all home theaters, regardless of shape, size, brand or budget. 😉

[@qbanb8582]

No doubt its a great system but like many luxury oriented products price is going to be a barrier of entry for many including myself. I like the idea of high quality streaming. That is why I don't use streaming a lot when it comes to movies, mainly because of no losses audio option. But I can't justify the investment for myself at this point in my life. Now if I strike it rich investing in crypto maybe tune will change.

[@Youthman]

That can be said of any luxury item. The name luxury in itself implies very few will be able to attain it. There are many luxury items that I cannot justify the cost of. But who knows, you and I may be in an ENTIRELY different financial position 5, 10, or even 20 years from now.

[@danielwander605]

I wish Kaleidescape would do a better job with innovation and adding features. They really dont change or add anything even though owners have been requesting specific features for a long time. For me, I want them to allow you to catalog purchased movies on your movie wall that aren't downloaded. They won't do that though, for obvious reasons, which really angers me.

[@Youthman]

What is their reason? If it’s obvious of their reasons, why would that make you angry?

[@danielwander605]

@@Youthman ​​⁠I have to believe that the reason is they don’t want to make it easier for you to live with the base storage. With the faster download speeds now you could theoretically build your collection without worrying about space. Keep the new stuff and your favorites downloaded and everything else is 10 minutes away from watching. But since you can’t catalogue non-downloaded purchases it becomes more of an inconvenience. It’s a simple enough option to add but they make their nut on selling hardware so I believe they don’t want people doing it this way. If the hardware wasn’t so expensive I don’t think it would bother me so much. Personally, I made the call to use mine differently than most. I only use it for new movies that I want to watch right away in a high bite rate format. Everything else I stream or wait for the blu-ray and rip it to my local storage. I had to buy used to make this plan make sense since it really lowers the value proposition. If I you were able to catalogue everything like I described then I probably would have bought new with an eye towards making K my main source. Overall, I think the system is super cool though. Just be nice to see them update the interface and add new features from time to time.

[@Gggddduuuvvv]

Hi Youthman I have a Zidoo 4k uhd system, this allows me to have an unlimited movie, TV show, and music library, maybe it's worth a look for yourself. I currently have about 2000 movies, on 4 16tb harddrives..

[@Youthman]

That’s a great option. The DIY guys are not their target audience. This is a luxury item. For some, time, convenience, no hassle setup, and reliability makes it worth it.

[@Gggddduuuvvv]

@@Youthman yeah! There is a small bit of work with the Zidoo, and an initial set up cost, but the device itself, is flawless, my friend is very good with tech stuff, so I leave it to him, I helped build his cinema room, and media unit, so it's a good trade off, the kalidiscape is way out of my price range, definitely a luxury 😂😂😂👍👍👍

[@hmurchison8123]

Kscape is nice They used to be cheaper but the reality is Movie Studios want streaming content for control reasons and Kscape has been attacked in court over years. As for the Apple TV ....Apple does have a feature that will play local content on your Apple TV. It's called Home Sharing and it absolutely sucks. Funny that DRM stands for Digital "Rights" Management. We have spent over two decades closing the analog hole and putting HDCP in every connection and customer still don't have enough viable choices between streaming and local content playback. CDN (Content Distribution Networks) contribute to Carbon Emissions. While this is debated the reality is Datacenters primarily run on dirty power which is Ironic because companies will profess to care about the environment while firing up that coal to run their CDN at the same time. Kscape is the present and future. The future being movies that run on local Solid State storage with specialized ASICS that decode 8K video in just a few watts per hour.

[@_Paul.]

It seems cool, but it feels like one of those companies that will go out of business within the next five to 10 years. Streaming platforms will Advanced far enough to surpass Blu-ray quality. The only way I can see them staying around is to be bought by a bigger company and completely change the way they do business

[@_Paul.]

Similar to how Slingbox ended up becoming sling TV. Kaleidoscope technology will probably be purchased and Incorporated to Prime video or Netflix and they will probably get away with physical products

[@Youthman]

Well, considering they’ve been in business since 2001, I think they’re going to be around for quite a long time. I don’t see streaming platforms ever pursuing 1:1 transfers for the small fraction of their customers that actually care about good audio and video,

[@_Paul.]

@@Youthman what we have to keep in mind though is internet speeds have increased tenfold in recent years, and as kaleidoscopes annual revenue is only 17 million it's not crazy to think that this company couldn't be purchased for 300 million and simply be used for their technology

[@_Paul.]

If Netflix added a $5 premium for this type of streaming service to be added to their platform how much more money would they make, I think it would be a lot more than 17 million for sure. Also they wouldn't have to spend any money on product.

[@Youthman]

They offer a “premium” service now. It’s nowhere remotely close to 1:1.

[@Shimrra_Jamaane]

I don't mind the investment for the player. That's fine. But the cost for storage is just so obnoxiously exorbitant. I understand that they need to use proprietary stuff to make the studios happy about local storage but good lord, hard drive storage should NOT cost this much.

[@Youthman]

Every company has to have markup in order to stay in business. Without profit, there is no business.

[@Shimrra_Jamaane]

@@Youthmanfair enough but if physical media is gradually phased out there has to be someone to fill the demand for locally stored content at a more friendly price-point.

[@Youthman]

Only time will tell. Since 2001, Kaleidescape has been the only company in the market.

[@scotttild]

I don’t see one benefit of this over Apple TV and buying everything trough Apple. I have been buying the hard physical media and using the digital codes for streaming. I do have a couple things I don’t like about Apple streaming but not worth spending that kind of money. If I was starting over I might go with something like this but over all I don’t see it as that great for the price.

[@Youthman]

Check out the file size comparison of Avatar Way of Water AppleTV: 3.2GB Kaleidescape: 102GB That alone tells you the quality is in no way comparable. Physical media will be very similar in audio and video quality to Kaleidescape.

[@scotttild]

@@Youthman I get it, apple is more compressed but if you are watching on anything but a 95 inch with a movie projector do can you really tell the difference ? Just really expensive for not much better if we’re just talking compression. I still take physical media over anything. Streaming for TV shows.

[@Youthman]

Physical media is a fantastic option. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But if you have the funds, Kaleidescape is the way to go.

[@SpliffyBendrixHT]

Man I just KNEW these comments would be so degenerate. Not sure why Kaleidescape's biggest feature is making adults so insecure about their incomes they turn into internet goblins lol.

[@Youthman]

Honestly, the vast majority of the comments are very positive, which surprised me. But you’re correct, often times people are negative towards things that are above their budget

[@SpliffyBendrixHT]

@@Youthman In my experience, it truly seems to be unique to Kaleidscape. The entry level Kscape option is not too far off of you had to spend to get the rest of your speakers on JTR. Or close to the 5.2 Arendal setup you looked at. Yet those videos don't have as much negativity. Just very interesting to me. Love the video! Kscape is also well out of my budget but I have learned to stop saying I could never afford it. Because I felt the same way about the system I have right now before I ever had it, and yet I made it work...

[@Downhuman74]

5 figures for a single digital storefront (and all the negatives that go along with that)? I don't get it. The software is nice, no doubt, but there's absolutely nothing about this that justifies that price tag.

[@Youthman]

It’s not going to be for everyone.

[@dibcrayron]

😂 this is dumb... I watch 15 movies a day for free a year ( websites) or pay $600 a year in 4k dolby vision streaming services..😂😂😂 if someone bought this they would be spending $100k a year in just trying to watch the same movies as me 💯 im walking away with a WIN 😎

[@Youthman]

You do you bro. It’s ok if Kaleidescape isn’t for you.

[@angelosilva4666]

What else is he's going to Going to say with a referral code getting paid 3k -5k on every sale 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Youthman]

Any product I review typically has an affiliate link through Amazon, Audio Advice or sometimes the company has their own affiliate program. I always disclose when a link is an affiliate (required by law and it’s a matter of integrity). You likely get a weekly paycheck. My paycheck comes in the form of Adsense (the ads that play during a video), affiliate sales or sponsored videos (which are also disclosed). I’ve reviewed products that are great and several that are super buggy and I share the good and the bad and let the consumer decide if it’s a good fit for their needs and budget.

[@angelosilva4666]

@@Youthman Point is your reviewing items you selling can't never trust that I also have a Kaladascape 22tb system and it's a money pit non stop buying movies and new servers every , 2 years or so ,had that been said I would believe the reviews more And it's definitely not worth the cost it was a gift to me that I would trade for a Plex

[@moemontana]

its for the rich

[@Youthman]

Keleidescape is definitely a luxury product. But there are many of my subscribers that own Kaleidescape that are not rich. We all spend money, some just choose to allocate theirs to allow them to purchase Kaleidescape.

[@stephanemoquin3888]

Overpriced product

[@Youthman]

Expensive, yes. Overpriced, that’s subjective. If you or someone else can build a similar platform for less, I’m all for it. The reality is Kaleidescape has been in business since 2001 and there hasn’t been one single company to do what they have done.

[@RicardoGarcia-xz1rz]

Still worse than blu-ray 4K / 3D.

[@FrankieKennethL]

I guess this is the end of YOUTHMAN DEALS. Hehehehe

[@Youthman]

Complete opposite. This is the definition of a Youthman Deal. 🤣 In all seriousness, I still encourage my audience to look for Youthman Deals. This can be in the form of open box, discontinued products, but the best place to find Youthman Deals is the used market. Let someone else take the “hit”. That goes for anything in life (cars, homes, boats, electronics, speakers etc).

[@FrankieKennethL]

@@Youthman the Kscape is on my “dream” list hehehe. Might be wayyyyys away from ever owning one but a man can still dream right ? lol

[@Youthman]

Dreams absolutely come true Frankie. Over the past year O have begun to write down my dreams. It’s amazing at the power of writing it down on a vision board.