91 firebird 3.1 v6 idle air control problems

[@aarnifohr6136]

Hi! Do I have to do the same if I install a completely new part? Or can the car calibrate that itself? So I also have 3.1 Firebird 1990.

[@alejandrogonzalez9164]

I had the same issue but I just changed the map sensor and it runs like a champ

[@amberericjones5694]

Heriberto Gonzalez changed that too didn't solve it. Found out i have bad slack in my chain. When I did this in the video it started up but then went back acting up. And after changing distributor it wanted to start. And then I found out it was the chain . But these sensors give similar symptoms.

[@kirkdawgg33]

Thank You So Much Man! Great Video And It Helped Me Fix Mine! 🙏🏾

[@amberericjones5694]

Adrain Kirkland your welcome like and subscribed

[@kirkdawgg33]

Amber Brantmeier What's The Name Of The Gasket?

[@amberericjones5694]

Adrain Kirkland are you talking about the gasket that is on top of the throttle body where the iac bolts on to the iac plate. Iac gasket is what it's label under... now one thing you may check is your timing chain I have a video showing what to check for as far as timing chain slack. Found out my main problem is to much slack In the timing chain... check out that video and see if possibly you may be having the same issue as well

[@kirkdawgg33]

Amber Brantmeier Yes

[@amberericjones5694]

Adrain Kirkland idle air control valve gasket

[@jjjww975]

CAN YOU get a close up of the BELT ROUTING label ...? I can crop it if the camera is real steady and it look really good ... thanks brother!

[@deathcon450rr]

I'm missing a relay on the left passenger side what is this to you I just replaced the fuel pump the thing would start with putting starter fluid in the intake I change the fuel pump out and now it won't start but you hear everything come on the relays on the right side driver side make a switching sound and then like a tick sound and there is gas going to the motor

[@jjjww975]

I have a 1992 3.1 V6 - my idle went way up to 3,000 and the car took off with out me applying any gas pedal...then it jumped to 4,000 RPM's then back down to 1,000 after I put it in N and tried to break. I had an up/down 3,000/1,000 RPM when starting it --- I don't think it has ever been replaced -- it has 231,000 miles on it -- excellent condition though --- interior looks new -- but I have been replacing all kinds of stuff in the last 2 yrs that has basically worn out. Headlight motors, hatchback lifter, alternator, Muffler, catalytic convertor, spark plug wires, etc... I'm thinking the IAC Value is carbon high and dirty and probably needs to be replaced outright. What do you or anyone reading thinks??? I replaced the Throttle Position Sensor - I think the bolt is: 3/16"-32 x 3/4" (FT) BSF Thread Socket Head Cap Screw / Update: so - it's going to be a #10-32 screw is what you want -- they don't make 3/16... even though that is what fit ... I found some I had in a jar --- screwed in just fine and are STEEL!. Sprayed lubricating oil in both holes...

[@amberericjones5694]

1 time on my 1977 ford Granada I had a issue similar it wanted to drive itself without throttle being applied almost the same symptom as your running into... Yrs later after doing some research there is a switch I want to say saftey neutral switch if I remember correctly that will cause that issue but don't qoute me it's been along time ago when I researched that issue... Now the idle issue that can have something to do with the iacv. May try the iacv first since its easier to get to. The other thing to is to check any vacuum lines. You could have a major leak somewhere as well. Which in turn will cause the idle to sky rocket like that. Check your booster lines and others.

[@jjjww975]

@@amberericjones5694 I got it fixed -- engine runs great .... thanks for the input ...

[@thefirebirdkid3003]

@@jjjww975 what fixed your issue?

[@jocarr1791]

​@jjjww975 what did you do to fix the problem?

[@uhhadriansanchez2898]

Super helpful thank you

[@amberericjones5694]

Your welcome

[@budsodalsky]

Thanks!

[@brucelee3834]

Bonjour , je suis français . Je vous explique mon problème : La voiture broute et a beaucoup de ratés quand le moteur est chaud . L'ancien propriétaire a changé le calculateur parce qu'un code défaut est apparu . La vanne erg a été changée 2 fois , la ligne d'échappement et la catalyseur sont neufs et non obstrués . Le module d'allumage est légèrement fondu à cause de la fuite du gaz d'échappement qui sort par le joint de la vanne ( où se trouvent 3 pistons ) . On peut entendre le sifflement de l'air qui essaye de sortir avec force du joint de la vanne ( j'ai de la suie ) J'ai dépensé beaucoup d'argent au garage , je ne sais plus quoi faire . En regardant la vidéo vous parlez de module MAP . Je n'ai pas contrôlé ni même le garage . Je remarque qu'il il y a une grande pression de gaz qui sort par le collecteur en direction de la vanne ERG , il n'y a pas de fuite au niveau du collecteur lui-même . Le garage me dit que c'est un problème électrique et un problème de calculateur . Toutes les pièces sont d'origine GM neuves .

[@cliffordjasway6817]

Hey do you know where the fan rely on the car car is overheating is it the same as 90 Camaro

[@amberericjones5694]

Should be in the same spot should be. Relay for fan I believe is next to the fuel pump relay. By the booster. Booster fuel pump relay an I think its the relay next to it...

[@cliffordjasway6817]

@@amberericjones5694 thank you you should make a video on it there's none online

[@cliffordjasway6817]

@@amberericjones5694 thanks for the fast reply 👍👍👍

[@amberericjones5694]

@@cliffordjasway6817 yw its been awhile since ive made videos ill be updating a new video of the car soon gonna be installing suspension components. I need to make a video of the fan relay to show ppl where its located. I figured there would have been videos of that.

[@amberericjones5694]

@@cliffordjasway6817 you can also unplug the fan. And run a jumper wire from the fan to the battery and also test to see if you fans kick on. If they do fans are good. Then at that point need to figure out is it relay related thermostate related. Etc or possible short or something in the wire. Or a fusiable link also I think ive done it before you can use a paper clip and jump acrossed after removing the relay. And also see if the fans will kick on. Might have been the fuel pump I done that with. Been a while.

[@carlosescoto3727]

Those two little hoses connected on top of the throttle come loose also it doesn’t plug and seal correctly and vacuum is let out not necessarily the hoses but the black Piece the hoses are plugged to that plugs to throttle

[@deathcon450rr]

My car will crank but it will die a few seconds later and i cant give it gas are it wont start

[@kitt28]

Hey man I can't find where you commented about the iac, my backfires out of the tail pipe, like I said I have 39 psi on the fuel pump, you said to test something else, but I forgot what you said

[@amberericjones5694]

Fuel pressure regulator under the upper intake plenum. Looks like a round saucer with a rubber hose coming off it. You'll be able to see it. Passenger side

[@amberericjones5694]

You can kinda see it when I get up close to the tps it's black under the intake

[@kitt28]

@@amberericjones5694 I see it what did you say to do with it?, plus my fuel pressure is reading 40 psi, what does it suppose to read?

[@kitt28]

No fuel is coming out fuel pressure regulator, new iac didn't help what fuel psi should I be reading?

[@amberericjones5694]

@@kitt28 no fuel coming out of the regulator that is good so that means that's working properly. You should be up around 37 to 47 roughly 50 psi

[@budsodalsky]

my car idles too high how do i get the idle down to 600 from 1000 rpms

[@amberericjones5694]

Should be able to adjust the throttle cable on the throttle body. If the butterfly is already all the way closed. You'll have to mess with the timing.

[@amberericjones5694]

Timing should be at 10 btdc. Make sure to unplug your esc wire passenger side

[@kitt28]

i replace mine, i broke one if the bolts so it just has one bolt, anyways i believe my car just have really bad gas in it, when checking the fuel pressure, it has really yellow fuel, so i must have had put in so bad gas in it. could that cause it not to start or giving me low fuel psi?

[@amberericjones5694]

Bad gas can keep it from starting that is true, now weather it will cause low fuel pressure I wouldn't think so.

[@amberericjones5694]

I know if you have a weak fuel pump that can also cause low fuel pressure

[@kitt28]

@@amberericjones5694 i did another fuel pump test it went to 40psi then in 15 mins it went to 39psi

[@amberericjones5694]

@@kitt28 fuel pressure dropping

[@amberericjones5694]

@@kitt28 sounds like a weak fuel pump if fuel pressure isn't holding

[@kentwilson3149]

Bro great video want to keep in touch thanks

[@amberericjones5694]

Hey will do I appreciate that

[@joes_gaming_2299]

What if mine came apart........?

[@uhhadriansanchez2898]

Did you hear the chain slack

[@amberericjones5694]

Yes I heard slack in the chain. Once I tested it by hand.

[@uhhadriansanchez2898]

O ok

[@amberericjones5694]

@@uhhadriansanchez2898 I have other videos of timing chain slack. Which I go through the process how to check for it

[@amberericjones5694]

@@uhhadriansanchez2898 and I have a video of it running, after doing the timing components. All this work of getting it running it's now just cranking. I'm thinking compression has something to do with it. I know it's getting fuel and spark . Compression is low causing some issues. So either I'ma rebuild this engine since I've spent the time to replace all the parts that were needing it. So yuuup now is tearing it down 😁

[@amberericjones5694]

@@uhhadriansanchez2898 sometimes my life can't go easy. Always something to put a wrench in the damn gear

[@duckmanjoel]

In summary: You have to 'load' the new air control. You turn it and load the spring. You cant just stick it back on.

[@amberericjones5694]

Didn't have to do all that

[@duckmanjoel]

@@amberericjones5694 exactly a 15 second video

[@amberericjones5694]

@@duckmanjoel apparently you didn't watch the whole thing.

[@user-hm1rf5oj2g]

@@amberericjones5694 Exactly you wasted all that video and never got to the grit. It could have been 15 seconds. Try again.

[@amberericjones5694]

@@user-hm1rf5oj2g says the guy that don't explain nothing of why you were running into the issue what exactly Maybe causing it.🙄 thanks for watching 👀

[@quayl1337]

At 1:50 where your pointing at that sensor, to the right of the one on top of the intake at 1:57 theres a plug with 2 hoses coming out

[@amberericjones5694]

You got the pcv valve hose going to the intake. The hose under that is the upper radiator hose. An the metal aluminum hose to the intake with 2 bolts is the egr tube.

[@quayl1337]

Yess. i got it figured out, but i was talking about the vaccum system from the throttle body to the air management valve. I honestly for the life of me couldnt find anything on it for hours, but i ended up finding my original emissions sticker under 30 years of grim. Otherwise i just had a dry rotted vaccum line that just disapeared to the backside of my block

[@amberericjones5694]

@@quayl1337 Oh ok yea the 2 little tiny hose right up under that throttle body the pain in the butt sometimes getting those off 😆

[@quayl1337]

Amber & Eric Jones no kidding, i have relatively small thin fingers and i could barley get a good angle on it, On top of that, my camaro used to house a colony of yellow jackets and ive only found a couple but one came out when i had my hand really in there and ooooohhhhhh man, i bashed my head so hard on the hood XD

[@amberericjones5694]

@@quayl1337 Lol the easiest way that I found is a long curved needle nose pliers. You can get the end of those an push the hose off. I wish they designed these motors differently. Cause its about like mopar in a way on certain things even like getting down to the injectors got to pull all the plenum off just for the injectors crazy

[@cliffordjasway6817]

Hello got fan working new problem car starts but bogs when push on gas sorry to bother dam 3.1

[@amberericjones5694]

Nah man your good lol thats why ive made alot of these videos an also to pop in to help ppl too. Have you done a fuel pressure test on the system.

[@cliffordjasway6817]

@@amberericjones5694 yea at 40

[@amberericjones5694]

@@cliffordjasway6817 either its going to be throttle position sensor or the one above it. Theres also a plate on top of the throttle body. If there is a leak there it will cause it to get too much air flow an bog the engine down an die

[@cliffordjasway6817]

@@amberericjones5694 thanks you know the firing order and wire order on distributer looked it up nothing thank u 😊 guys

[@amberericjones5694]

@@cliffordjasway6817 block Passenger driver 5. 6 3. 4 1. 2

[@eduardorojas2016]

Tengo problema con el canister nose como van las mangueras pueden ayudarme

[@amberericjones5694]

Charcoal canister?

[@eduardorojas2016]

@@amberericjones5694 CANISTER

[@brandoncaldwell95]

Mine is just lopey. V6 3.8L lopey like it wants to be a V8 in my bird.

[@travelingman1983]

O2 censor

[@rogerramsey8307]

You shouldn't smoke😔 thats not healthy

[@amberericjones5694]

Ive been off cigerettes now for 2 yrs or so. Switched to vape.

[@rogerramsey8307]

@@amberericjones5694 wow great man, thats huge.

[@amberericjones5694]

@@rogerramsey8307 smoked cigs back when I was 13 I'm 30 now. I got to the point of getting tired of smelling stale smoke in my vehicles. Man it stunk. Now since i made the switch to vape an been strong on it for 2 yrs. If somebody is smoking thats not even all that close to me I can smell it. Reminds me not to go back to it.

[@amberericjones5694]

@@rogerramsey8307 well about a yr an half

[@rogerramsey8307]

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