97. Emancipation of the Jews in Western and East-Central Europe (Jewish History Lab)

[@m.alvarezedu]

SO INTERESTING! Keep doing this kind of videos, I learn so much. 👌

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thank you!

[@zafirjoe18]

Thanks for the most amazing lecture

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Most welcome!

[@yvesbrisebois9050]

Very informative video I really enjoyed this.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thank you!

[@zdzislawmeglicki2262]

Regarding emancipation of Jews in Britain, I wonder how much of an impact Handel's oratorios--most of which were based on stories borrowed from the Old Testament and the Apocrypha, and which were enormously popular and regularly performed--must have had on Jewish emancipation in Victorian Britain.

[@debrapaulino918]

Interesting and most likely yes.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Interesting. I wonder as well.

[@RobinHerzig]

This was a really good one 👏

[@zdzislawmeglicki2262]

On the American Declaration of Independence and some comments below (above?). It was a declaratory, not a legal document. It was a statement of wishful thinking. Instead the Constitution, which was a legal document, upon which laws of the United States were based, made no statement that all men were equal and was happy with the institution of slavery until the 13th Amendment of 1865 that incidentally still allowed for slavery as punishment. In this form slavery survived in Florida until the 1930s or later even.

[@infinitelink]

This is incorrect and libel. (1) The Declaration is classed per US law as part of the organic laws (read: more fundamental even than the Construction writ) of the United States, though this is largely ignored (like the Constitution) by all branches (which is typically how governance goes everywhere, not just here). (2) The whole "3/5ths" compromise is original to the Constitution and, contrary to historical illiterates, not about denying peoplehood to Africans, but was to reduce the power through counts in census of shave States. It was obvious from the start that they wanted slavery gone, but a few powers that were stood in the way and could not be dispensed.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Interesting, albeit passionate, discussion.

[@aleksklax6129]

Thank you Dr. Abramson!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

You are welcome.

[@Viewer163]

Another excellent lection

[@helenemasour9256]

where is the second part? I don't seem to find it?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Series is numbered

[@PC-lu3zf]

Another great video thank you.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@infinitelink]

Beyond complaint on continuing this historically oblivious idea "all men doesn't really mean all men", even though he did in fact mean "all men", great video.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Oblivious or obvious? Beyond that, thanks.

[@lszujo73]

jewish people being transmitters of ethics,business and science to so many countries in Europe,yet needed to be "emancipated"...if there ever was an enigma in human history that's that

[@debrapaulino918]

Diamonds are tough and show their points and clarity when cut with skill.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

As discussed in the video

[@moraemepasikhani9153]

Thank you for this video.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

My pleasure!

[@debrapaulino918]

Great to know about Napoleon.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thanks!

[@avi3860]

Once we were helpless, voiceless, and homeless. Now, we are no longer helpless, we raise our voices loud and clear and we are back home in our own homeland ISRAEL. B"h.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

It's an amazing history.

[@helenemasour9256]

me too! I am going to use it in my class

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Great!

[@philipmann5317]

The questions posed by Napoleon were fascinating; do you have a police force; would you fight for France?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Yes, fascinating!

[@paulhelman2376]

According to Harpo Marx his parents came from the Alsace region and their home language was Plat Deutch not so much Yiddish.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Interesting

[@209Richsta]

They really don't teach this in history. I graduated from high school 20 years ago and even then it was very vague. Things like the Pale of Settlement, citizenship of Western European Jews werent mentioned when we learned about 19th-20th Century Europe

[@roniberahaquartet477]

I thought that Austria-Hungary was the first country to give the emancipation for the Jews .Also Serbian first constitution was giving all the rights .

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Complicated.

[@Retarmy1]

I read the book Napeloen a life, back then you did not want be wrong side of politcs are they would cut your off

[@korssar]

The US also segregated mexican catholics even white spaniard descendants, thats why the St. Patrick batallion deflected to the mexican side in the 1846 US invasion of Mexico. After that the US gov prevented US catholics supporting mexican cristeros in late 1920s.

[@infinitelink]

Incorrect on the Declaring btw. Jefferson's original draft had "a 168-word passage that condemned slavery as one of the many evils foisted upon the colonies by the British crown." It just couldn't bee too explicit, given without Southern States included in the rebellion against Britain they would all die. Nobody seems allowed to talk about the reality that even representatives of the South agreed Slavery was an evil that would need to get abolished--it's just not all did or else they represented States that included powers that be who did not. As a historian, really, you ought get points like this right. Nobody with even bare qualifications I've encountered had failed to mention, for example, that it is obvious what Jefferson had in mind (given "pursuit of happiness" replaces "property" in the phrase, "life, liberty, and property", in order to deprive slave holders of rhetorical legitimacy and basis in the very founding documents of the United States).

[@zdzislawmeglicki2262]

Well, Jefferson himself owned slaves end even sired children with one. So...

[@infinitelink]

@@zdzislawmeglicki2262 showing you are unaware of historical context: At that time, reaching an age of majority sans the economic skills to support oneself led to criminal prosecution of your parents, removal from their custody, placement under a master as an apprentice so that you could learn some (how many youth arrived in North America btw), and orders of court to parents to repay the costs of moving, housing, feeding, clothing, and training you. If you were put out without the social and economic skills to survive, you died. Part of what made slavery abysmal is that imported Africans would lack the language, cultural skills, and hard skills (beyond drudgery and menial labor, for the most part) so that a full emancipation meant mass death: Jefferson, George, etc all discussed and wrote about these things and how they had as a project the training and equipping of slaves so that when they died, their slaves could be freed (for the most part, if ready) and not die. For comparison, emancipation after the civil war largely led to former slaves.... still stuck working on plantations of former masters due to need and inability to survive elsewhere--exceptions where rare (exceptional!), all long before the Southern Society laws where passed to keep rising African Americans subjugated. It's a bit like prior today going to poor African villages to "help" build things (in missing etc) where the results (if you talk to the Address privately) are often worse than worthless--Moderns lack the appropriate skills and lacking a place to retreat to would die in that society/neighborhood even without suffering any crime or violence. Jefferson had eugenic (classic rather than Nazi or "20th Century American Progressive") ideas he likely picked up from ancient Greek and Roman authors, and his genes being of course among the "eu" kind, wanted to have children and "help" those he was (literally by training) helping towards a day they could go free.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Always helpful to have corrections in the comments.

[@aristotleonassis5792]

They were the most highly educated and wealthiest people in some European societies. Where does this concept of enslavement come from? Most people were poor under feudalism.

[@junaid1]

I think you have a lot to learn...

[@aristotleonassis5792]

@@junaid1 educate me and show me I’m wrong instead of being patronising. Prove to me that Jewish people have always been maltreated then I’ll answer.

[@debrapaulino918]

@@aristotleonassis5792 When there are laws of restrictions, no matter how wealthy you are, you are not equal. The video is explaining those restrictions. If for example you pursued a Doctorate but could not choose where and how you would apply it. There were 3 classes. Royalty to lower level of Duke. Nobility; merchant class, banking; etc. Military. Then on down to commoners. Jews could be Nobility never Royalty per societal "pecking order." Religious reasons. At one time they could not join the army of the nation they lived in much less be promoted to a General. Dr. Abramson I'm sure has archived lectures.

[@debrapaulino918]

@@aristotleonassis5792 The reason a minority of them were ALLOWED into the class of Nobility is because they had great acumen of money exchange. They learned it to survive. They lent with interest to the consternation of the Church who also barred them from Guilds and ... if you want to be educated you can be.

[@debrapaulino918]

@@aristotleonassis5792 They were christ killers who ritually sacrificed christian children on passover don't you know.