997.2 GTS - A FOREVER 911? [modern9eleven]

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

Btw. The Turbo and GT3 cars were Mezger engines, they didn’t have the exact same engine architecture, is isnt that they were “upgraded from the factory”. Also, no 7.2 had IMS bearing issues, perhaps you are thinking of the slightly later 7.1 engine M97 engine that started to come with double rows IMS bearings, which are less prone to fail. Ironically, the very early 2005 997.1 M97 engine with the single row, is fairly easily serviceable and much easier to do the flat 6 “IMS solution” with the direct oil feed kit. It’s still an expensive upgrade, but worth the piece of mind if you plan on keeping the vehicle for the long haul. It’s a genius design.

[@leebushen]

Worries about 997.1 cars are more about bore scoring issues than IMS. IMS was mainly the 996 I believe. 997.2 don't have either problem (at least 997.2 bore scoring is super rare anyway). That's why 997.2 is so much of a sweet spot before the much bigger 991 entered the scene. 997.2 GTS is a sweet spot within another sweet spot!

[@thedevthing]

Bore is an issue with the 991s also. We know someone with a 991.1 who had to replace a motor because of bore scoring. It’s more a matter of how the car is being used. Constant cold start and stops without driving the car extensively would cause bore scoring too. 🙌😃

[@warrenlucier5796]

@@thedevthing In the 991 & 981 Porsche went to thermal management and some of the engines have had cold seizure issues. The 997.2 & 987.2 didn't, to my knowledge, exhibit this problem.

[@boblivingston4841]

997.2 has no IMS bearing.

[@RTLIGHT03]

IMS issues are incredibly overhyped, hilarious to see it brought up on a car that doesn't even have one lol

[@johnsnow145]

They do get bore score though

[@ken_in_atx9619]

@@johnsnow145In a 9A1 You’re more likely to die behind the wheel in an accident than get bore scoring.

[@997werks]

So funny how those two things are a thing in the US. Here in Germany very little people care, quite overhyped and obviously a big industry, scared people afraid always an easy target..

[@ericthor6677]

Thanks again for the chat Prabhul, had a blast!!

[@thedevthing]

💪😃🙌 it was fun, let’s do it again when you get your next ride 😁

[@rsenior7140]

Beautiful car, Eric! Can you give me more information about your wheels? Where did you get them from?

[@aaaaachew]

These car stories are excellent. Reminds me a bit of Petrolicious. Videography is fantastic!

[@thedevthing]

Wow, that’s a huge complement. Thank you 😃🙏🙌💪 will have to make the next videos better somehow 😅

[@ericthor6677]

high praise indeed!!

[@peterfebbraio250]

Yep, had a Corrado VR6 as well when I was younger... I can relate to the story. 👍

[@thedevthing]

Nice one 🙌😃 thank you for watching it 😃🙌

[@hectorfabio4149]

Correct me if I'm wrong here. C2 means Carrea 2wd and C4 means Carrera 4wd?

[@thedevthing]

Yea you are right.

[@grantfox2611]

They hold their value extremely well I bought mine a year ago for 77k an got offered near 90k by carmax. I have 32k miles on mine they are rare relativity speaking especially with a 6 speed an coupe body style.They also will hang with a 1st gen V10 R8 in a straight line pretty well😉.

[@thedevthing]

Amazing you held on to yours. I really do miss mine 😅😬 Regarding the R8, off the line they would definitely stay together. But the R8 would eventually pull away with the higher horse power. I love the R8 too. 😃🙌😃

[@ericthor6677]

The friend that I mentioned in the video with the R8, he and I did a couple of pills and it was neck and neck. Mind you he was a newer manual driver so that probably played a part.

[@jimgraves665]

I completely agree about the wheel offsets.. the car looks very weak with stock wheels/offsets. so much better with a push out.

[@thedevthing]

💯💯🙌😃

[@GetMoney-uo1qt]

Amazing car, amazing spec.... Great interview, fantastic video & editing. 💯

[@thedevthing]

Thank you, appreciate that a lot. 😃🙌😃🙌

[@jirace]

If you aren’t at the track, the carbon breaks are way overkill and aren’t as good for the street. Just saying.

[@thedevthing]

The lack of brake dust makes it so worth it despite the downsides on the streets 😂🙌😃

[@tpmbe]

fabulous... onwards and up 997.2 rules

[@brn_jms]

Just happened upon this, also have a 997.2 C4 GTS! Love the wheels, and knowing the limited selection of CL wheels, what are these, and what are the offsets? Thanks!

[@thedevthing]

Thank you for watching the video 🙌😃 You can reach out to Eric for details of the wheels instagram.com/modern9eleven?igsh=MTRhdmV6bjN2cDBxNQ==

[@frankstoll5636]

Amazing car...Amazing Video.... can you give some Details on the wheels: are these 19 inch or 20 inch and original porsche wheels on later models or aftermarket ? Thanks for All...

[@ericthor6677]

They are a fully forged aftermarket wheel made by BC Forged (KL01) in a brushed clear finish. 19 x9 and 19x12.

[@G_Ozare]

Stunning machine, it’s perfect. Cool guy!

[@ericthor6677]

I’ll assume you’re talking about Prabhul!!

[@thedevthing]

Eric is a cool guy 😃

[@NateGrede]

Sport Bucket Seats (carbon backed folding with harness.. also known as the GT2 buckets) were an option on the GTS and any 997.2. I have them.

[@thedevthing]

Those unfortunately were not an option in Canada if I remember. We were always envious of Europe where folding bucket seats and roll cage were available. 😃🙌

[@Foxtrot1967]

Be nice if you included at least a start up and short pull

[@thedevthing]

Agree, we will be improving future videos as we learn along the way 😃🙌🙏

[@robertabowne670]

Have the exact same spec car going now with the wheels you described. Yep need ceramic brakes dislike the dust. Enjoy

[@thedevthing]

Amazing. The wheels will transform the car 😃🙌💪

[@ericthor6677]

I can't believe there aren't more aftermarket options to retrofit a PCCB set up without costing an arm and a leg.

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

PCCBs are over rated for street driving and many at the track don’t like them either simply because the pad and rotor replacement is so expensive. I’ve even got a few buddies with multiple GT3/RS cars that take them off for the standard brakes and store them and bring them back out when the cars is up for sale. But hey, when everyone on the planet seems to want to flex at everything, I guess the yellow Calipers are just another way to make one feel good about themselves. But to be honest, this car is so sick, I wouldn’t think anything more of it with PCCBs. Through a Numeric shifter and a 991.2 GT3 steering wheel in there.

[@ericthor6677]

@@KosmicHRTRacingTeam really great suggestions! Thanks for the feedback, I’ve heard that on the PCCBs… honestly it would be convenience around keeping the car clean. (Given cost and availability id likely go with Giro-disk and ceramic pads).

[@amccaulx]

People who are passionate about “Porsche” should at least be able pronounce it right. But I do commend You for getting a manual.

[@thedevthing]

😂😂 as long as we all understand, it’s ok 😃

[@mms8393]

Especially since the newer car manuals instruct the owner how to pronounce the name correctly.

[@thedevthing]

😂😂😃

[@BoBo-pl3ww]

My biggest Porsche pet peeve. Grow the hell up. Nobody has to pronounce it to textbook perfection, coming from another purist.

[@obieWanmotivation]

@@BoBo-pl3wwThanks. I was looking for this comment. I’m not a Porsche guy but I understand why some folks - especially an American- struggle with the proper pronunciation even though the car owner is clearly enthusiastic about his car. Anyway hopefully my next car will be a Porsche. 👍🏾

[@dominikritter7001]

When you drove one, you want one

[@thedevthing]

It’s hard to let go once you have one 😃🙌

[@bobbydazzler8620]

Your comment on 997.2 regarding IMS bearing is not true Direct fuel injection engines do not have IMS bearing problems

[@thedevthing]

That’s for clarifying. 😃🙌 I remember reading that 2009+ didn’t have the IMS issues. I guess this is when the DFI engines were introduced 🤔

[@BoBo-pl3ww]

The kit is very interesting. I mean for one, it's a 10' yr that hasn't gotten the face lifted interior yet, so it's already on the low end of the .2 generation. More importantly, the weird kit with the 996 GT3 wing is a bit much and unnecessary. I prefer the OEM look of the GTS more. Makes it more special to the GTS trim. Not hating, just criticizing the design of choice. If you gave me the keys I'd still probably dolphin dive into that driver's seat lol.

[@thedevthing]

Thank you for watching. The aero kit is from factory and was an option then. 🙌😃

[@GetMoney-uo1qt]

Porsche"aaaaaahhh". Porsche"aaaaaahhh". 😵‍💫😵‍💫. It's not that hard. Nice car..💯

[@thedevthing]

😂😂😂🙌😃

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

Not Porsche aaah! It's Porsché

[@thedevthing]

😂😂 At least people get what we are talking about 😃🙌

[@aizzahzyyamin5410]

love this model....Cool

[@thedevthing]

🙌😃🙏

[@ericthor6677]

Thanks, me too!

[@Bodhi7007]

Is GTS equipped with a 6 speed manual or a 7 speed manual gearbox?

[@thedevthing]

997 manuals are all 6-speed 😃 this GTS has the 6-speed manual

[@commasNculture]

So hard to find rn

[@thedevthing]

💯💯 it’s a special car 😃

[@lapchoine6600]

So what mistake did you do to your GTS to force you to sell it? Was it the BBS wrong fitment or the Bilstein coilovers?

[@thedevthing]

Both really. It was not the look I was going for and during Covid it was just a pain to get any shop to do any work. And my impatience got the better of me. I hindsight, I should have been patient and kept the car. 😃😅

[@lapchoine6600]

@@thedevthing sorry but can you elaborate more because I am in the market for a 997 GTS and I want to get coilovers and BBS wheels. That is the look I am aiming for and I saw your video. Thanks

[@thedevthing]

@lapchoine6600 it depends on how low you want the car to be. I just made a mistake where the coilovers I got were lot much lower than the stock ones I had. I wanted more low. Then with the wheels and tire, the wheels are beautiful, but the tire selection is now I would go again. I want a more stanced look like how Eric has in this video. My setup had beefy tires that was cool at first but it started to dislike how bulky the tires looked front and rear. If I was to do this again, I would get coilovers that went extra low and tires that’d didn’t have massive sidewalls. I might not do 3-piece wheels again as the maintenance was a headache for me 😃😂

[@lapchoine6600]

@@thedevthing Ok good to know that Bilstein coils cannot go much lower. So you were maxed out? Also, your wheels looked good so what were the specs you went with? You could have gotten a lower offset wheel and maybe go with 315/30/19 tires vs 325/30/19? How was the front tires? Thanks again for your help on this and wish you had more video on your GTS!!! Also, I am loving your vlogs by the way!!

[@Nemex12]

Which wheels are those btw? Love em

[@thedevthing]

They are BC forged KL01

[@Nemex12]

Thanks man, they look just right on the 911. I hope to get my first one next year and those are probably the wheels I will get :) @@thedevthing

[@cdefelice26]

What offset are the wheels?

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

They didn’t bring the foldable carbon buckets because the gov requires a certain number of tests to approve them and when they go thru the tests, they destroy the seats. They are readily available overseas. And No, the GTS isn’t a “limited production” car and neither is the GT3 or GT3RS (although they are more rare). The 911R, Sport Classic and the Speedsters are true limited production vehicles.

[@ericthor6677]

I agree with you… “I wouldn’t say it’s a limited edition car”. 😅

[@zanderwilll]

GTS is limited production as in few of them were made in comparison to other 911s

[@NateGrede]

Sport Bucket Seats (folding carbon backed with harness holes) were an available option on nearly any 997.2. I have them in my GTS.

[@thesolojourney8955]

997 GTS > 🌎

[@thedevthing]

😃🙌🙌😃

[@wilsoneashoian5789]

That music is not necessary while talking.

[@thedevthing]

Good feedback for next one. I was mainly trying to hide the background sounds 😂😃

[@FamousRoof8309]

The music is too loud and distracting

[@thedevthing]

Fixed in subsequent videos. It was all a learning experience 😃🙌🙏

[@rafaelcarazo4768]

This car is for sale

[@thedevthing]

I guess anything is for sale for the right price 🙌😃 Currently it’s not for sale

[@Engel2892]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@thedevthing]

🙏🙌😃

[@naveenananth1273]

Its a Forever car Period.

[@thedevthing]

😃😃🙌

[@ericthor6677]

I think you’re right!

[@veepeetee]

What a Db

[@thedevthing]

What database are you talking about 😂😂

[@ericthor6677]

No arguments here.

[@thedevthing]

😂😂🙌

[@David-hn5ix]

Porsha

[@raulsanchezjr4048]

Not Porscha...Porsch Ë! It's a Latin E So...Porsche!

[@DFWreal]

Dude, how can you call yourself a car expert when you don't even know that the 997.2 never had an IMS bearing??? You don't know the basic facts, but at least you could have done your homework. Also, as others have said, learn how to pronounce the company name. It is a family name, therefore you cannot change it just because of ignorance.

[@thedevthing]

Appreciate the comment🙏 I don’t think anyone is claiming to be an expert here 😂 We are just regular guys who enjoys our cars and we are sharing our experience. This is all meant to be casual content. Nothing is rehearsed and spoken in the moment. Hope you understand and enjoy the content 🙌😃

[@porscheguy09]

I know I’m whining but I can’t stand it when Porsche owners mispronounce the Porsche name. It’s “Por-sha” not “Porsh”. Porsche themselves put out a video just to clarify it and show how it’s properly pronounced. It’s a family name so people should get it right out of respect. If someone constantly said your name wrong you’d correct them wouldn’t you?

[@thedevthing]

I hear you. 😃🙌😃 People butcher my name all the time, I learned to move on 😂😂😂

[@tpmbe]

Pronunciation is no big deal ..in the UK we say Porsche.. without the 'ah' everyone is fine with that here.... even at the Porsche centres ... .Cheers

[@warrenlucier5796]

I think I'd fall to the floor if someone pronounced my last name properly 🤣.