9MM vs .40 S&W! Federal HST AMMO!

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@TheGweedMan
@TheGweedMan 9 ай бұрын
Popularity isn’t a factor when the bad guy feels the 40 Cal.
@Wizzle5208
@Wizzle5208 2 ай бұрын
same ballistics, 9mm was better actually
@pendragonshall
@pendragonshall Ай бұрын
@@Wizzle5208 the .40 had better ballistics. Watch again and check other sites. All improvements that go into the 9 also go into the 40. The 40 will always be better in that regard
@Wizzle5208
@Wizzle5208 Ай бұрын
@@pendragonshall clown ass comment 🤣🤣
@livewithnick
@livewithnick 3 күн бұрын
@@pendragonshall barely. Not enough for me to switch back to a .40.
@stevenflores5549
@stevenflores5549 2 жыл бұрын
40 ain’t no punk. Still an absolute powerhouse of a round. Shame it’s losing popularity but still relevant.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Mhmm
@danoman5217
@danoman5217 Жыл бұрын
It has a lot of relevance. The 9mm is just has a lager following due cost and availability. 40 still a top notch round
@FoulPet
@FoulPet Жыл бұрын
​@Dano Man I'd argue its more marketing and factory support than cost
@e.t.2230
@e.t.2230 Жыл бұрын
Still an absolute unit of a round amirite 😭😭😭😭
@seanmccarty1176
@seanmccarty1176 Жыл бұрын
40 is good but the reason I never bought a 40sw pistol is that any benefits don't justify the downsides compared to 9mm. I carry a full size 9mm on duty and off. I get more capacity, less recoil, and about the same ballistics from 9mm. 40SW just doesn't offer enough benefits to switch. There's no doubt it's a capable caliber and I sure wouldn't want to get shot with it.
@Tacwolf_125
@Tacwolf_125 2 жыл бұрын
HST has always been a great option in any caliber.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@whatfreedom7
@whatfreedom7 2 жыл бұрын
That and gold dot is my top choices. Sig Sauer v crown is probably 3rd.
@ethanmac639
@ethanmac639 2 жыл бұрын
155gr .40 s&w moving at 1200 FPS and hitting with 500 FPE and expanding 100% to .80" after ideal penetration is perfection in my opinion
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👊
@ratroute8238
@ratroute8238 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Winchester Ranger .40 s&w 155 grain law enforcement ammo, good stuff!
@CL-ty6wp
@CL-ty6wp Жыл бұрын
1300+** 1200 would be underloaded. Underwoods is 13000. Handloaded 180's can get 1200 with longshot.
@johnkovich8874
@johnkovich8874 Жыл бұрын
DoubleTap makes a 155 gr with a Barnes copper hollow point at 1400 fps in .40 S&W
@kyle18934
@kyle18934 Жыл бұрын
​@C L dang underwood ammo gets some insane speeds! that thing is more powerful than a 30.06! 13,000fps!. jokes aside that extra 100fps does make quite the difference on poundage. that's a nice round
@bobgaylord8883
@bobgaylord8883 2 жыл бұрын
Really like your testing. No B.S., straight to the point and all bases covered. Thank you!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!
@TooManyChoices1
@TooManyChoices1 2 жыл бұрын
.40 S&W 165gr HST for the win 🥇!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@jimmymcclure4549
@jimmymcclure4549 2 жыл бұрын
You are right. .40 is an awesome round. Nothing wrong with 9mm but anyone who says there is no difference is lying to themselves. I own multiples of both and have carried both and still do. I consider a Glock 22 with 16 rounds to be about as good as it gets in a fighting handgun.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👊
@colt10mmsecurity68
@colt10mmsecurity68 2 жыл бұрын
Nahhh, Glock 31 with 15+1. (.357 Sig). The perfect EDC. GET SOME!!!
@CL-ty6wp
@CL-ty6wp Жыл бұрын
357mag doesnt even beat the 40 in 3" or less barrels.
@CL-ty6wp
@CL-ty6wp Жыл бұрын
So yes the 9mm fan boys are funny
@ballsack8937
@ballsack8937 Жыл бұрын
That's how I feel about my first gen mnp 40cal. I keep hst 180 grain for home defense. 16 rounds of that particular bullet gives me a ton of confidence if I ever have to go into defense mode.
@choppermike3329
@choppermike3329 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison with really good ammo. .40 is obviously the winner as far as ballistics. Great test Tools! Thanks!👍🏻
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@CL-ty6wp
@CL-ty6wp Жыл бұрын
and this is underloaded. Should be over 1100fps. The 40 is slept on because of the herd effect.
@highxj
@highxj Жыл бұрын
@@CL-ty6wp getting sick of all the comments from the 'herd' that the 40 is a POS and worthless....geesh! My 180 gr. handloads are pushing 1200 fps.
@504Trey
@504Trey Жыл бұрын
9 is obviously the winner & we all know it 👌🏾
@wesw1130
@wesw1130 5 ай бұрын
I carry the 180 grain HST in my G23 and G27. The 40 won’t die, to many people still love the 40 and where I live the prices of 40 have actually dropped because everyone is buying 9mm. Let ‘em keep buying the 9mm!! Good test results too.
@tlockLockett
@tlockLockett Ай бұрын
The G23 with two extra magazines are my daily carry loaded with 180gr HST’s
@D-A-1776
@D-A-1776 Жыл бұрын
Love 40, never understood the hate it gets. I carry both they'll both do the job. Actually been carrying 357 sig as well.
@peady64
@peady64 Жыл бұрын
I still carry a 40. All the sheep bought out all the 9 mil during the ammo shortage. 40 was everywhere.
@carlosdaniels9515
@carlosdaniels9515 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, I literally found 50rd boxes of 180gr HST'S for $25 a box ($0.50 per round) during the pandemic and 9mm HST'S were selling for $2-$3 per round, and no where to be found.
@slawlor100
@slawlor100 Ай бұрын
I bought so much 40cal that I had to buy more pistols to run it all. I love it. I also have 9mm but 40 feels better to me ballistics aside. Very similar there I admit.
@BlakeHouse-j3u
@BlakeHouse-j3u Ай бұрын
Two edged sword . .40S&W was still on the shelf after the 9mm quickly sold out . By a margin of 2 - 3 weeks, then. 40 was wiped out . But once ammo started trickling back into the supply chains , 9mm came back first ( between these two , and overall) ******************** " Standardizing your calibers , to simplify your supply concerns " only works , if you always maintain a constant stack of cases at all times . The most popular , and most commonly seen on shelves " during normal times " are the calibers quickly wiped off of dealer shelves , and out of distributor wear house.
@SDGlock23
@SDGlock23 Жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with HST in any caliber, I use it whether I'm carrying 30 Super Carry, .40 S&W or .45. The .40 S&W is probably my favorite all around semi auto cartridge, too bad people hate on it these days.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@504Trey
@504Trey Жыл бұрын
9 is obviously better 👌🏾
@Giggledondada
@Giggledondada Жыл бұрын
@@504Trey6:54
@504Trey
@504Trey Жыл бұрын
@@Giggledondada He didn't say overall better he said ballistically better.. overall 9 is better 👌🏾
@Giggledondada
@Giggledondada Жыл бұрын
@@504Trey 9 is better for people who whine about recoil and need more shots in a magazine that’s literally it.
@jeffray6197
@jeffray6197 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly why I carried a Glock 23c for duty over the others that chose the 9mm. We always used Federal. Excellent ammo! Thank you for another great video my friend!! Stay safe!🇺🇸👍🏻
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you, brother!
@richki.24
@richki.24 2 жыл бұрын
Love me my G23 Gen4
@jeffray6197
@jeffray6197 2 жыл бұрын
@@richki.24 Awesome! Mine was probably Gen1,/Gen2 as I’ve had it since 1993. Nevertheless, still love it!!👍🏻
@richki.24
@richki.24 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffray6197 , Love the 40s&w, mostly because not many were into it .... most of what I have is in 40s&w ..
@jeffray6197
@jeffray6197 2 жыл бұрын
@@richki.24 Exactly why myself as well!!👍🏻
@edwardodower1027
@edwardodower1027 Жыл бұрын
Your reviews are clearly my favorite "go to" reviews for your clarity, candor, and technical easy-to-understand explanations and video clarity. Outstanding!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Really appreciate that.😎👍
@joewest1972
@joewest1972 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your testing, I can honestly say you are by far my favorite channel for testing.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Really do appreciate that!
@gripaimsqueeze
@gripaimsqueeze Жыл бұрын
Agree. I know what I’m going to get every video: unbiased data
@TheAxe4Ever
@TheAxe4Ever 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the notification for this video of 9mm vs 40 S&W I couldn’t wait to watch it! The answer, to me anyway is clear. 9mm or 40 S&W? The answer is YES! Why not have both? With such a big choice of excellent defense ammo these days, you can!t go wrong with either.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@jeffb5733
@jeffb5733 2 жыл бұрын
I like the .40 cal. That's what I carry all the time. Thanks for the tests.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you, brother!
@504Trey
@504Trey Жыл бұрын
9 is better & we all that that to be facts 👌🏾
@MontanaWelldigger
@MontanaWelldigger 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a 40 guy since my old dept. went 40 in the early to mid 90's. Although I bought a 43x in 9mm for a small light weight carry gun that won't pull my pants down, first 9mm I've owned. Thanks for your diligence.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya!
@ronaldbarnes8302
@ronaldbarnes8302 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely my favorite, the HST’s always seem to work. From the side the wound channels looked almost identical, from the top the 40 was more impressive. Carry the 147 grainers daily in my P365. Thanks for sharing Tools!
@adamsaylor7427
@adamsaylor7427 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a big fan of the 147 grain HST. It’s all I carry in my M&P 2.0 Compact, and I really REALLY like them out of my Sub 2000
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@hoffpbass
@hoffpbass 2 жыл бұрын
That's what's in my 40. I have both 165s and 180s. Glad to see they work perfectly. I haven't seen any in 9mm but I picked up 1 box of those nasty Barnes Tac XPDs the other day. May swap out a couple of XDef rounds in my EDC mags with the Barnes. Great video. Perfect results.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Definitely some good stuff.
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic results on both. Pretty comparable in most every area except the expansion size. That 40 dwarfs the 9. I prefer a 40 and have since the late 90s. But my wife & daughters carry or have carried 9mm. So I provide them with 124(+P) HST. Good test. Thanks.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Can't go wrong either way.😎👍
@PerceptionVsReality333
@PerceptionVsReality333 2 жыл бұрын
But the 40s&w hits with more momentum because of the bigger/heavier round.
@Comedy_Women_Horror
@Comedy_Women_Horror Жыл бұрын
So is the 9mm for girls? Because 90% of law enforcement, state police, armed security guards and the United States military have transitioned to the 9mm. Im a 39 year old man i carry 9mm in my glock 17 gen 3 with 124+p Speergolddot law enforcement Ammuntion. I also have a glock 22 gen 3 .40S&W and carry 180 grain federal law enforcement Tactical premium H.S.T. some agencies use .45acp and. 40S&W still and have plenty of females carrying them on duty. Don't make it sound like the 9mm is a "female" round. Plenty of professional men shooter's who are big in stature (im 5'11 170lbs) but plenty of bigger men carry and prefer 9mm.
@deniserodriguez9616
@deniserodriguez9616 Жыл бұрын
Can your girls do a bill drill with plus p ammo at 7 yards and put all their shots into an 8 inch group in 1.5 seconds?
@dougcutler4948
@dougcutler4948 Жыл бұрын
I own 9 40 and 45. My preference carry is the 40. Larger than the 9 and faster than the 45 is a great combination.
@LibertyFromLead
@LibertyFromLead 2 жыл бұрын
Great unbiased test Tools. I carry 40s&w mostly if not 357mag. It's bc of what showed ballistically and mainly the hard barriers penetration benefit especially glass and windshields. I've always kept my preference even though 40 isn't the popular choice for some reason especially with folks my age (37) or younger. All the super high speed tactical flat range KZbin operators don't approve and that unfortunately rubs off on folks wanting to be the same as everyone and popular. Given this test was only gel, it does show clear results of wound channel potential and expansion. Other test are available showing real world objects but some reason that doesn't matter. LEO's switched bc of price and also soft handed shooters that seen they could get a less "snappy" round. Of course it is a lil bit snappy compared but it's not much more as you know from experience and the benefit is way worth it. But like usual, popular opinion of Internet is what sells. Most that choose hasn't even shot the 40s&w to even know. I appreciate you Tools and being not biased and being honest man. Sorry this got long lol. (Current EDC: Sig P226 40s&w mk25 style) 🐍🇺🇸 edit to say: I do want to give major credit to that 9mm HST and 9mm in general nowadays tho. I do love the 9mm also and occasionally carry my Beretta 92X especially in warmer weather where thick clothes isn't an issue. I shoot 9 alot at the range. Great round too.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate the comment and hope you have a great weekend!
@destroyingdadxx2274
@destroyingdadxx2274 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t go wrong with a p226 or a Beretta 92. My personal favorite is my p229 legion, though I just picked a S&W 457 which is also pretty cool. I love the old 3rd generation Smiths.
@LibertyFromLead
@LibertyFromLead 2 жыл бұрын
@@destroyingdadxx2274 I like the 3rd gen Smith's too. Always wanted one.
@fivespeed3026
@fivespeed3026 Жыл бұрын
I have a Beretta 92FS and a Ruger SR40C and I can’t tell any difference in recoil. I love shooting them both.
@harrystangel6857
@harrystangel6857 Жыл бұрын
My first 40S&W was a USP 40. Carried it on Duty. Great accurate weapon. Big and heavy for CCW. HAVE Glock 22 And 27 love them both. Have Several 9MM’s use HST Ammunition in all! Great video!
@chri4047
@chri4047 Жыл бұрын
Very happy to know I did the right purchase, g27 with all 10 rounds for conceal 24/7 and a canik 9mm with 18 rounds for home defense, of course both of them packed with HST
@maxmccain8950
@maxmccain8950 7 ай бұрын
Federal sure has these dialed in right. Like you said it doesn’t make any difference what caliber it is, they always perform exactly like they’re supposed to.
@mikejohnson9118
@mikejohnson9118 Жыл бұрын
Holy "S" .74" for the 40SW! That's the same size as a 12g slug! Nice! That's a bad day if you catch 2 of those critters.
@effeojnedib7208
@effeojnedib7208 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comparison and sharing ! One of the reasons I went back to my Glock 23, letting my P365 take a break. I imagine the P365 gives up some velocity with the shorter barrel too. With standard factory mags, the 23 has higher capacity to. It is a little more bulky when sitting in a chair with arms, but the difference in weight hasn't fazed me a bit, and I carry EVERYWHERE, everyday, all day.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@Lumpia_In_Texas
@Lumpia_In_Texas Жыл бұрын
I own both. 23 is a LOT more bulkier than a p365
@katanapr3
@katanapr3 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a great video! I love 40s&w and all my handguns from 1995 to 2014 are on that caliber. From 2014 till now all I have gotten are 9mm handguns because almost no one is making 40s&w handguns anymore. I carry HST on my handguns no matter the caliber they always perform great. I hope 40s&w and 357sig make a comeback like 10mm is.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
.40S&W is a very capable round.😎👍
@acid6urns
@acid6urns 10 ай бұрын
plenty of brands make 40s. sw makes the shield, m&p full-size and compact, sdve, hk makes tons of them, glock has multiple, taurus, i can go on forever
@katanapr3
@katanapr3 10 ай бұрын
Shield to small for my hand, had one and sold it. M&P have the Performance Center 40L and two other in 9mm. As a matter of fact all polymer S&W offerings in 40s&w I have. BTW the new SD 2.0 is not offered in 40s&w. H&K's I have two VP40. I don't like Glocks had a G22 and sold it. Taurus never again. SIG's I have 3 in 40s&w. And for most of them I have 357sig barrels. Now what manufacturer is currently making 40s&w other than Glock and Taurus? Even S&W seems to have dropped their own caliber.
@TheProAer
@TheProAer 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to start recommending your videos to my 1st time tool buyers so they can learn about ammunition & Ballistics. My local FFL offered me a great opportunity to work there. They said you always hang out here and needed another guy so why not work with your buddies who are like-minded pro 2a people. My favorite is the 1st time gun buyers, I go out of my way to welcome them to the community to show them us gun people are good people.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I hang out in my gun shops half the day when I go in.😆😆😆
@TheProAer
@TheProAer 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Awsome, they may end up doing the same to you Mr.Tools and say hey you want a few shifts since your always here. Lol. I work at Patroit Guns in Seminole if your ever in the Tampa Area.
@livebaitlarry5783
@livebaitlarry5783 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheProAer how y'all hangin' in out there? i hope all is well. take care.
@TheProAer
@TheProAer 2 жыл бұрын
@@livebaitlarry5783 Luckily we're blessed to still have power in my subdivision. However no cell phone service. I'm in Pinellas County Clearwater/St.Petersburg area. We dodged a bullet, alot of winds & lots of debris in the roads from trees. Thank You for checking up.
@livebaitlarry5783
@livebaitlarry5783 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheProAer whew! you sure were blessed! hoping y'all get service restored quickly. stay safe.
@xlr8r3VA
@xlr8r3VA Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your video. I am a huge .40 S&W fan. Now I am becoming a .357 Sig fan. Keep up the great content! BTW I just recently spoke to a Federal Premium sales rep. The only difference in the law enforcement and civilian versions of HST is the civilian rounds are packaged in boxes of 20 and law enforcement are packaged in boxes of 50. They are the exact same round. And civilians can purchase the law enforcement boxes of 50. Federal has deals for dealers who sell to LEOs that they get a discount that gets passed to the LEOs and the taxes are less. Sweet deal.
@bbb2881
@bbb2881 9 ай бұрын
your 40 tests have convinced me to buy a 40
@michaelshanahan4965
@michaelshanahan4965 7 ай бұрын
Get the 9mm conversion barrel (Glock 17 or 19). Both of best worlds.
@americanpatriot212
@americanpatriot212 Ай бұрын
Always superior. I don't think Law Enforcement would have ever switched to the 9mm but the influx of female officers over the last 15yrs. Now Factoring them in as a whole everyone shot the 9mm better - recoil, follow ups etc
@semichiganandy2127
@semichiganandy2127 2 жыл бұрын
The winner was me in 2019 when I bought a couple boxes at good prices. The looser is me because I didn't buy more back then.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@buzsalmon
@buzsalmon 2 жыл бұрын
I am very happy you did this one! HST ammo is hard to beat 9mm or 40s&w. Your tests today kinda prove that. However I would prefer the 40s&w but like you I have both and believe in both! Tools I try to see all your work. I know I don't but I try because I believe in you! It really is that simple. You are a good person and friend period! My people are from Virginia, you may know of one: Mjr.Gen.George Pickett.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that, brother. I've heard Pickett before.😎👍
@kayakbandits9894
@kayakbandits9894 9 ай бұрын
I’m a 40 guy here. Glad I invested in Glocks. Considering the conversion barrels to 9mm so if things get crazy I can have the option. Good video
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 2 жыл бұрын
40 is the correct answer vs human sized questions
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
💥🧟‍♂️💥
@massiah.556
@massiah.556 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Glock 17 9mm gen 5 and a brand new glock 22 gen 5 40 cal theirs just something I love about that monster 40 cal round it’s more powerful than 9 and 45 most deff not a compromise round lol that 40. cal has some stank behind it for sure and I never feel undergunned thanks for the great content
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!😎👍
@lep38918
@lep38918 2 жыл бұрын
I was a police officer for 10 years and I prefer 40 S&W. My sidearm was a Glock 22 and my back-up pistol was a Glock 27. I carried a Glock 23 when I was off duty. I love Federal HST but I don't think that ammo existed yet when I was an officer. The ammo I carried when I was an officer was Winchester Ranger SXT which then became the Ranger T Series. About the last 3 years when I was an officer I carried Speer Gold Dot ammo. Federal makes amazing ammo and Federal ammo is the only ammo I use these days for my defense rifles, pistols, and shotguns
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Those T Series are some good ones too.
@PileofBrass
@PileofBrass Жыл бұрын
I have both calibers and always will. The HST has been my favorite carry ammo for years.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Gotta have em all.😎👊
@theprayingman
@theprayingman Жыл бұрын
Glock 23 .40cal is what I edc love the .40cal I carry it 80% of the time daily. Creates a wider wound channel compared to the 9mm and equal penetration. Pretty nice capacity not too far off from the 9mm Glock 19 9mm every once in a while range day gun but mostly nightstand gun for home Intruders 9mm performed well, equal penetration to .40cal and recoils less and a bit more capacity over the .40cal, especially if i have to wake up in the middle of the night and defend my home, and the wife can handle it easily if I am not around 9mm Is my choice for that situation Date nights and special occasions 380 bersa in the pocket and 380 bersa Thunder plus in the vehicle. Love the video, love the comparison, and it's nice and straightforward
@steventhubbard
@steventhubbard Жыл бұрын
When I first started to carry in the early 70's the debate was a wheel gun vs semi auto. I tried a few of the various 38 specials as a was in a Law Enforcement program in college and the norm was that local governments wouldn't allow their officers to carry anything else and I held then as I do now carry what you train with. I ended up taking the first EMT class and that started me on a career in EMS. I started to a 45 after seeing the effects on the human body. I never saw more than 2 hits, usually 1, center mass that didn't end the fight. But the problem was the 1911 single action. I went to 40S&W IMI Baby Eagle after again seeing the effects on the human body. I still carry that Baby Eagle but carry a 9mm SCCY CPX-2 when the weather dictates lighter clothing and concealment issues. Both of these are double action all the time and I favor the second trigger. If practical after seeing way to many people shot during my time in the field it would be the 40S&W everything over the 9mm.
@steelpunisher6944
@steelpunisher6944 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome test as always. You sure can’t go wrong with HST. I love these tests. Specially when it’s a round I trust and carry daily. Lol. Keep the good content coming my friend 👍🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya!
@hartsickdisciple
@hartsickdisciple Жыл бұрын
Both rounds should get the job done, but there's no doubt that .40 has more thump, and makes a slightly bigger hole. I actually think the .40 S&W made the .45 ACP all but obsolete. You're getting roughly the same muzzle energy with both, but better penetration & higher capacity with the .40.
@muzy125
@muzy125 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your tests. I believe the primary difference between the brands are simply the costs in that the LE package offers better per round average. As far as caliber choice I personally use them both along with 357 Sig depending on the situation and my opinion is that all of them will serve you well, just pick whichever one you shoot best..
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you!
@thepatriotsrage661
@thepatriotsrage661 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on re the differences between the LEO and civvie packaged HST's.
@tubbyshvfd9110
@tubbyshvfd9110 2 жыл бұрын
Rebound on the 40 was crazy !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Big chunky lead ball.
@frawdulent
@frawdulent 2 жыл бұрын
_pause_ 5:35 Beautiful picture. Love my 40sw 😊
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@randalbigirvirvin1153
@randalbigirvirvin1153 2 жыл бұрын
HST for the win 🏆 I'll take the 40sw over the 9mm. That's because I have the 40sw and don't have a 9mm. 😁 Can't ever go wrong with the HST.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@sakfpv8444
@sakfpv8444 10 ай бұрын
I thought about getting a .40 short and weak for my carry because of how well it does, but I just couldn't find ammo cheap enough to train with. 9mm at 25 cents a round is definitely more 300 rounds a weekend friendly. I still may get something in .40 just because a heard of pigs have moved in to the woods across my street, and they are aggressive. I walk my dog at night and we've been charged before. I'm not sure how my 9mm would do against one of the toughest mammals in the U.S.
@alexandermfernandez9283
@alexandermfernandez9283 Жыл бұрын
They both performed flawlessly . Perfect expansion & penetration . I suppose if you go by the ol' saying , "Bigger is better" , then the .40S&W would be the better choice . However , I would carry either round with complete confidence that I'm well armed . Your test are so well done that I find myself viewing all of your videos even if I don't own the caliber you're evaluating . Good job T&T !
@Dwayne7834
@Dwayne7834 2 жыл бұрын
Federal has the HST line of bullets figured out. Good video thanks.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they do. Thank you sir.
@noahmercy-mann4323
@noahmercy-mann4323 2 жыл бұрын
Nice test that illustrates just how far bullet technology has come in the last quarter century. An individual is well-equipped now with a quality 9mm round, which hasn't always been the case. I personally prefer Gold Dots to HSTs simply because they perform as well as the HSTs in virtually every test, and group better for me, but always recommend folks carry one of the two.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@peterreily1490
@peterreily1490 2 жыл бұрын
His West Virginia chrono won’t read gold dots. This is the most disingenuous test I’ve ever seen and I don’t ever like 9mm. This is that West Virginia “gradumacated” all the way to grade 8 rocket scientist. Ft lbs of recoil would’ve leveled this playing field, but “I won’t go down that rabbit hole” takes real math and he ain’t got that many fingers and toes!
@bendovermen9425
@bendovermen9425 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterreily1490 wow, what a pretentious, self righteous toolbag...
@JJ_SDWR
@JJ_SDWR 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterreily1490 I think his chrono works just fine, but I'd love to see your test, drop a link to your video and show us how it's done, chief. Maybe you can drop your supreme knowledge on all of us poorly-edumacated peasants, I only have a Bachelors Degree so I'm probably not real book-learned like you. Tools does great tests that a lot of us find helpful. No worries though, anyone saying that they don't like 9mm as a caliber is probably a fudd anyway.
@SIGP365
@SIGP365 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterreily1490 Wow, what a jerk you are. Maybe you should move on if you can't act like a civil human being.
@lanesworld4000
@lanesworld4000 8 ай бұрын
165 HST is nasty, devastating stuff 👍 👌 Good to go!
@rogerray2545
@rogerray2545 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome test as always brother you the man
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!
@timrobinson6573
@timrobinson6573 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video. I like the Winchester Ranger T-Series 180 grain for 40 S&W. The unbonded version. Its expanded talons are unbelievable.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@colt10mmsecurity68
@colt10mmsecurity68 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, those Ranger T’s in all three “major” calibers are INSANE! Their expansion is what still makes them “KING” out of the “Big-3” (9, 40, 45). I have 800 rounds of them in 357Sig. Heck, I should probably sell half of them to a museum!
@wreckagevic
@wreckagevic Жыл бұрын
Love my 19 gen 5 and 23 gen 5 equally. I think it’s always smart to have a secondary option if your budget allows.
@frankm2385
@frankm2385 Жыл бұрын
Great test! Awesome video. I wish you would have used the 147 gr. 9mm HST. Regardless, I enjoyed watching.
@chrisblake1918
@chrisblake1918 10 ай бұрын
Love my .40 as EDC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@UltimatePrime15
@UltimatePrime15 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this test using the "same" technology for each caliber. Too many other people are comparing 9m hollow point to FMJ 40 or FMJ 45, which is stupid. The 9mm is more cost effective, but 40 S&W is far more powerful than 9mm, saying otherwise just isn't true.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yep. I carry a 9mm but there's no doubt that .40S&W is the more powerful round.
@chadlassiter6380
@chadlassiter6380 2 жыл бұрын
I like your videos man, you get right after it and cover a lot of good information in a reasonable amount of time 💯👍
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that.😎👍
@cw7631
@cw7631 Жыл бұрын
Love your Jelly testing! Demonstrates each round very well.
@diegomireles
@diegomireles 5 ай бұрын
Beyond penetration the internal damage of the 40 HST is impressive.
@Bob-lq9ys
@Bob-lq9ys 2 жыл бұрын
Great test , basically a tie for penetration , both wound channels was great , Thank you for that test
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@therealhawkeyeii7888
@therealhawkeyeii7888 8 ай бұрын
Shouldn't the comparison be between 180 grain .40 and 147 grain 9mm, 165 grain .40 and 124 grain 9mm?
@Wyoming_Gramps
@Wyoming_Gramps 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I carry both G`19 and G23 with HST.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@michaelmiller4568
@michaelmiller4568 2 жыл бұрын
Dang both have beautiful expansion
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@keithtate1241
@keithtate1241 2 жыл бұрын
HST always does an outstanding job. Thanks for the jelly test and have a great weekend 😁.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. You too!
@BrianF.1969
@BrianF.1969 2 жыл бұрын
The only 40 I have is a Browning Hi Power so it's not suitable for carrying for me and the 9mm is more suitable for my size but I still enjoy shooting the 40 at the range. Like others said I really enjoy your videos.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!
@michaelmiller4568
@michaelmiller4568 2 жыл бұрын
Its jelly time. I have and love both but I love and went back carrying my 40 cal s&w. Pack it with Underwood defenders or hydrashok and we are ready to roll
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@truthhurts7836
@truthhurts7836 2 жыл бұрын
The 40 is nice I guess but if I'm moving up from 9mm I carry a 45. I have a Beretta 96 that I've had for about 25 years rarely even been out of the gun safe. Another great ammo video keep them coming 👍.
@BOOMER-rs5qn
@BOOMER-rs5qn 2 жыл бұрын
Or you could get on board with the rest of us gun nerds and have numerous pistols in all three calibers lol.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate you!
@colt10mmsecurity68
@colt10mmsecurity68 2 жыл бұрын
Your Beretta 96 is a nice “classic.” Don’t ever sell it. A very dependable firearm that border patrol used for a long long time.
@chretired
@chretired 2 жыл бұрын
Nice test Tools. Either caliber is a keeper, but then we expected nothing less. Have a great weekend. Be safe, be vigilant.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Enjoy your weekend!
@metro143
@metro143 5 ай бұрын
I think the video should have either used the lightest or heaviest rounds in both calibers and then compare them would have revealed a better test. Test the 9mm, 115 grain against the 40 caliber,165 grains and then compare the 9mm, 147 grain against the 40 calibers, 180 grain. The video compared the heaviest 40 caliber round against a much lighter 9mm round.
@kathygates8845
@kathygates8845 Жыл бұрын
GREAT TEST TOOL !! A W E S O M E TEST ....!! I LOOKED FOR SOME RANGERS AND DID NOT FINE A BOX !! WHY DO YOU THINK I CARRY A GLOCK 27- 40S&W.!! HST IS THE WAY TO GO .... !!! THANK YOU FOR THESE TESTS ....!!!!!!!! LIKE AL'WAYS JUST KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK ...!! DOUBLE G. HERE ..!!!!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!😎👊
@ems_nightcreature8209
@ems_nightcreature8209 9 ай бұрын
The difference with the LEO box is you get a 50 round box vs a 20 round box at a cheaper cost per round.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 9 ай бұрын
Yep
@TheOtherMatt-hv7zn
@TheOtherMatt-hv7zn 8 ай бұрын
I think the optimal projectile weight for the 40 is between 155 and 165. I don't know how the 180 ended up being the standard.
@DerekRemington-qx2km
@DerekRemington-qx2km 4 ай бұрын
Iv been running carrying 40 for the last 5 years an find it's hard to beat with the right loads
@mgsharnhorst
@mgsharnhorst Жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for the test. Looks like the 40 wins. Two mid weight bullet weights would be a good test between 9mm and 40S&W (124gr vs 165gr) or even light loads (115gr vs 135gr)
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@STLSNIPER
@STLSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
My EDC SIg P365 has 124gr HST's +P. The same round I have in my Glock 19 car-carry gun. Yes; These are THE BEST all-around SD ammo out there..!!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@johnm3661
@johnm3661 6 ай бұрын
When I debate moving from the G-23 to the G-19….videos like this reassure my decision. I dont want to get shot with ANY round regardless of ammo performance
@bluracer766
@bluracer766 8 ай бұрын
I just got 200 rounds of the COR*BON 125+P 9mm. Think you could do a 9 vs 40 or 9 vs 45 with that round?
@BaetaJose
@BaetaJose 6 ай бұрын
Excellent test! For me I still stick with my G21 in 45ACP+P. But I also have 9mm, however for self defense I keep my 45.
@AshGreen359
@AshGreen359 Жыл бұрын
The difference between critical defense and critical duty is critical duty penetrates more and expands less. I wonder if its the same for HST
@threefortyduster
@threefortyduster Жыл бұрын
Great test and shows that both are admirable performers. The days of the “useless 9mm” are long gone and I don’t want to get shot with either.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Amen to that!
@michaelmiller4568
@michaelmiller4568 2 жыл бұрын
I'm good on my capacity my 40 I Carry hold 14 + 1 so 15 rounds I'm good. 1 shot does the trick. That knockdown
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
💥😎💥
@Jack-xy2pz
@Jack-xy2pz Жыл бұрын
Mass Matters. Technology can't make up for bullet mass. Tide/technology raises all boats.. These tests demonstrate it . There is one exception To this rule.. This channel is very high caliber but deserves a lot more subs..
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!😎👍
@nycinkmaster
@nycinkmaster Жыл бұрын
Best comparison test thus far , great work
@B0N3ZNP3WZ
@B0N3ZNP3WZ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, Tools
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@brianc0019
@brianc0019 11 ай бұрын
165 grain 40mm would've been closer in terms of speed with 124 gr. 9mm HST's Nonetheless, Great stuff and thank you for these types of test.
@SmokesKwazukii
@SmokesKwazukii 5 ай бұрын
The 40s&w has gotten so much hate lately just because it is always compared against 9mm when it really shouldn't be, but having replaced 9mm across LE agencies for a while, they are placed as analogs competing for the same role. Choosing 9mm meant favoring it over .40, and today most people do favor it and for some good reasons. Some still favor .40 and i can see why as it is a devastating round. Both rounds have their own merits and advantages of course, but I think .40 is much better compared to the 45acp, and when seen through that lens i believe it is the far superior cartridge as it does most things better. The exception being suppressed use as the only place i see 45 being a clear winner. 40 gives more capacity than 45 and honestly i think better ballistic performance across the board. Especially in shorter barrels as 45 performance is drastically different with small changes in velocity. 10mm obviously can be compared with 40 as it is the magnum version of the round ideally, but both have their place and 10mm really only shines brighter when you use the properly powerful loadings. Where .40 shines in my eyes is in shorter barrel performance, as it’s velocity/performance ratio doesn’t very wildly, it is very consistent at always delivering a very considerable amount of energy per shot. It is a significantly powerful cartridge for a semi auto handgun and i'm glad it exists alongside 9mm as they really do so many of the same things well but both have distinct advantages that make them both worth considering.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 5 ай бұрын
I have another 9vs40 video uploading this afternoon.
@dre6262
@dre6262 2 жыл бұрын
Hi man I been that 40 guy on your channel from day one hst 100 hst from day one edc
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👊
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 2 жыл бұрын
Good testing Tools! glad you can't go wrong with HST regardless of caliber. .40 cal is still a viable round. ♠️🎯🏹🎩🎱🇺🇲🏁🇺🇦🌻🔱🌼💮👊🔫🏴‍☠️
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@Dennisthemenace40
@Dennisthemenace40 Жыл бұрын
When you’re comparing apples to apples, the 40 S&W beats the 9mm every time. A good rule to live by is to shoot the most powerful caliber that you can handle and that gives you the capacity that you’re comfortable with. Hits are essential. For me, the 40 hits the right balance but the 357 Sig is very alluring.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👊
@Hanover_Fist
@Hanover_Fist Жыл бұрын
Thanks as usual.....I have never used HST-40...I think I will give it a try, in my glock22, based on your findings.
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын
Real world: when FN Browning introduced a .40 cal offering in their Hi Power back in the day, the .40’s barrel had to have a third locking lug.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@docmoquin5898
@docmoquin5898 Жыл бұрын
Love my USP 40S&W. She is my main carry.
@MrSumGuns
@MrSumGuns 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always! You think you could do the same test but through a G26/27 length of barrel and get similar results? Look forward to your next tool adventure.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I imagine so. Maybe not quite as much expansion and a little more penetration.
@bluetick71
@bluetick71 2 жыл бұрын
.40 cal all around best semi auto pistol round there is
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@gorvlivin
@gorvlivin Жыл бұрын
I load 9mm and just don't feel like buying more brass, dies, etc. If I was to go bigger, 44. Nice video.
@colt10mmsecurity68
@colt10mmsecurity68 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. My employer tested both 9mm 124 and 147gr HST’s. The 147’s performed better than the 124gr through barriers. Not by much, but it went through windshield better and a solid wood door like someone’s front door. But I would use either one. John Correia from Active Self Protection chooses the 147gr HST as his EDC as well. It’s what’s loaded in ALL of my 9mm’s. Now I tested both weights out of my Ruger PC Carbine and the 147gr expanded larger than the 124. I think the longer barrel with the lighter 124 just made it’s velocity too fast. The bullet was designed for handgun barrels and not rifle barrels.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I use the 147's in some of my stuff too.😎👍
@theoriginalOSOK
@theoriginalOSOK 11 ай бұрын
40 just makes a bigger hole... and this show's nothing about hard barriers - but we know that mass plays a big role in that. Thanks for the great vid - enjoyed it as always!
@richardthomas6602
@richardthomas6602 2 жыл бұрын
Good performance with the 9 and 10mm bullets. Now shoot the 11.5mm (45acp) to complete the test.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@lucast3006
@lucast3006 Жыл бұрын
I have a family member who works directly in a role with Federal Premium. There is NO difference between the tactical law enforcement and the personal defense rounds-except packaging and price! They are made on the same equipment, they have the same cases, the same bullets, same charges, and *they are made together at the exact same time.* They literally come from the same batch but get different packages and different prices. The Personal Defense is a gimmick to make more money, and a lot of the big-box places such as Midway don’t sell the law enforcement version to consumers (again, it’s so they can make more $ from people who don’t know any better). Now, for a very _brief_ period of time, the Personal Defense rounds were getting an additional primer sealer treatment whereas the law enforcement wasn’t. But now they both get the same blue sealant. Buy the law enforcement version because you can get 50 for the same price that you’d pay for 20 PD at a big box.
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