A $150 Linux Phone with Android App Support? Sony XA2 & Sailfish OS X

[@perz1val]

Sony's doing something interesting, I wonder if it'll be able to start a new trend of open phones where manufactures just make the hardware - exactly like with PC parts

[@divyamthakur]

many android OEMs allow that.Xiaomi, OnePlus,Google etc

[@ADeeSHUPA]

@@divyamthakur android OEMs

[@divyamthakur]

@@ADeeSHUPA ?

[@ADeeSHUPA]

@@divyamthakur how bout SamSunG

[@divyamthakur]

@@ADeeSHUPA dEpenDs oN thE m0dEl y0u hAve

[@horatiumarasescu6187]

Seeing Louis Rossman on Wolfgang's Sailfish OS phone made my day

[@janrynkevic377]

Thumbs up for Right To Repair.

[@davidharmon3614]

@@FranLMSP leave

[@daorkykid]

@@davidharmon3614 unbased

[@midleno8364]

@@FranLMSP leave

[@davidharmon3614]

@@daorkykid leave turkey

[@cortez1996]

the reason why Sailfish OS Developers Pick Sony Devices Because Sony is Open Source and Developer Friendly

[@hellfire92837]

Weird, considering how they censor so many games...

[@tesial]

@@juntapiezas That was because of piracy. Might be an excuse tho. But on the phone side, they are pretty great.

[@tesial]

@@juntapiezas That's an another issue but you are right. But you have to admit, it's pretty easy to unlock bootloader with Sony Phones, compared to other companies phones. And I don't think it's pure companie greed.

[@Dk203_orion]

But not all the sony phones are supported by sailfish os. I have a x1 compact I can’t flash this Os coz it isn’t supposed ;-;

[@lenOwOo]

Only few devices

[@horatiumarasescu6187]

Bought a used XA2 for 80€ mint condition. Flashed SailfishOS on it, love it. However, after a few months I upgraded to a used Xperia 10 II and flashed SailfishOS also on it. Now, that phone is my second daily driver along with a Pixel 4 a running CalyxOS. @Wolfgang, you made me buy new things and try different OSs.

[@crazymonkeyVII]

As a former sailfish user I can warmly recommend it, and it's great to see it getting some well deserved attention. My current phone is kinda broken which is why I don't wanna void the warranty, but next phone I buy I'll go back. The time that one can spend on android playing games and watching unnecessary ads is ridiculous.

[@ricksmith8849]

Sailfish is russian state owned os

[@crazymonkeyVII]

@@ricksmith8849 where did you get that nonsense? It's Finnish.

[@asmrnaturecat984]

@@ricksmith8849 its nor russian, even if it is, there's nothing wrong with it.

[@RyugaHidekiOrRyuzaki]

My favorite nail polished youtuber

[@jacekjagosz]

There was also Jimmy Broadbent, but he gave up after receiving criticism about it.

[@crazygamezockerXD]

@@jacekjagosz You know Its really fucking weird that a community based around freedom and privacy in software is unable to extend those values to other things

[@traditionalFGC]

@@crazygamezockerXD It is just as weird that a guy would base his entire channel around /g/ memes and 4chan thumbnails and then disavow those people after garnering enough of a following. Wolfgang is a shitbag either way you look at it.

[@midleno8364]

@@traditionalFGC ok but why can’t he just use what he wants, it’s his damn fingers.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

@@traditionalFGC Or maybe it's a guy who tried pandering to the /g/ audience in his videos, but ultimately realized that it's full of pathetic, spiteful and elitist people who will never be happy with what you do. As soon as I dropped that approach and started making normal videos, that's when my channel started to grow. You guys like to tow that mythical line about how disavowing 4chan was a betrayal on my part because it's /g/ that made my channel grow. But one good look at the numbers for niche videos with clear 4chan or /g/ memes in the thumbnails vs. other videos tells you everything you need to know. /g/ never liked me in the first place, the most positive comment I've seen in the threads about me is "I'd suck his toes" lol

[@zdanee]

Man, rocking a Nokia N900 in 2010 was truly the golden years, a true honest-to-God linux smartphone in my pocket...

[@osvaldoramos4006]

android and ios felt odd for me to use at the time

[@osvaldoramos4006]

still have mine, something odd happen while typing this, i was saying maemo feel ahead of its time, having features others lacked for years

[@callmebigpapa]

I have used Ubuntu Touch as a daily and really like the interface and found it easy to use only didn't switch permanently due to some 2fa apps I needed, but I will as soon as it is possible. I run this on the reference Nexus 5. Cost was about $40 USD for the phone. Really happy with it. Thanks for posting this great video and in general increasing Linux on phone awareness!

[@c462-]

That Tokio Ghoul meme got me, your videos are so good, thanks for uploading

[@rainerehrlich1770]

The XA2 Ultra has been my daily driver for the last two years. I am really happy with it. Of course you should know that even though it runs Android Apps it doesn't come with the google services (which makes it attractive to most of the buyers, I guess). So Many but not every Android App will run flawlessly.

[@jozsefizsak]

Nobody wanted Sailfish more than I did after falling in love with the Nokia N9, my favorite phone ever. (I had to import one from China and reflash it.) Jolla has ignored North America from day one, although they took my money for the stillborn tablet. After the Sony partnership that finally included models that would run here, they refused to sell the OS to Canadians with no explanation. I finally just gave up over a year ago. Considering the OS license was an annual purchase, it didn't seem worth it to keep fighting when they didn't want my money. They still owe me $150 from the tablet debacle but heaven forbid returning it in the form of a Sailfish download! They're not very professional and it's truly sad.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Agree

[@jgibbon]

SFOS was never an annual purchase, though. They guarantee a minimum of a year's worth of support for paid Sailfish X users, which isn't the same as invalidating the license or stopping updates. I've bought my first license in 2018 and still get updates for that phone. (The Jolla Phone was only recently declared EOL after 7 years because they did have to rely on an old kernel, by the way.) A simple VPN like the free one built into Opera is apparently sufficient to get the store working in America. After the purchase, you can always access the current system image without a VPN, iirc. I agree though, the combination of small company size, not a lot of ressources and at times the habit of communicating just a bit worse than the community hopes for can get a bit irritating. And the tablet thing was indeed embarassing, to say the least.

[@jozsefizsak]

@@jgibbon I defended them tirelessly for a very long time but when they ignored me consistently, it was clear that they don't give a damn. A credit card is tied to my home address so I didn't think I could sneak through using a VPN. I'm pretty sure the original offer was an annual payment to get any updates, which was pretty costly.. An Iphone is good enough in practical terms so I'm not suffering but it was a lovely dream for the N9 to have descendants.

[@jgibbon]

@@jozsefizsak yeah, the one year thing was worded a bit weird, I guess it was to not be forced into support too long in case the whole thing didn't work out. I can totally understand that all these points are enough to not care anymore, I just wanted to clear up the annual purchase misunderstanding. (And the VPN thing - jolla themselves don't care where you're from, I guess it's just some regulation forcing them to officially not sell to America without legal representatives there or something.) If you're happy with an iPhone that's great. Cheers!

[@johnhancock6951]

@@jozsefizsak I've purchased three Sailfish licenses with a US credit card using a Finland VPN. They don't care as long as you don't abuse it.

[@VictorYarema]

I was looking for some "independent" smartphone for like a 4 or 5 years. I didn't have a time to make a proper research. I finally got here now. Thank you so much such sober analysis of existing GNU+Linux phone(s).

[@frykauf]

Thanks for reviewing Sailfish, I was really wondering how it’s going.

[@ZambonieDude]

Buy a sailfish phone and figure out for yourself.

[@frykauf]

@@ZambonieDude Oh yeah thanks man. I would not think that I could just buy trash randomly and throw it out like a good consumerist instead of going to KZbin trying to find a genuine review for a thing first. I'm such a whackadoodle. Thank you so much for your help :)

[@arkieologist]

@@frykauf Lmao!! 🤣

[@frykauf]

@@arkieologist I mean like what else did that comment deserve. Like why are they even watching the video then.

[@ShinryuuTAS]

I used to have original Jolla when it got released. It lasted several years of use. Still one of my favorite operating systems you see in phones. My friend also runs Sailfish X (if I remember correctly) on his Sony Xperia phone. I'd love to see this getting more matured in the future.

[@jason-s8c]

I want a Linux phone BUT how do I use Android apps? What’s app? Banking etc

[@BenGilljournalist]

As the former owner of a Nokia N9 who loved MeeGo despite its severe limitations, I've been following the development of Sailfish from the beginning and love the design language carried over, and improved upon, from MeeGo. MeeGo was far ahead of its time but sadly died on the vine long before Nokia gave it a chance to mature into something truly worthwhile. It's great to see the Sailfish team continuing to carry the torch.

[@branislavavramovic2601]

Finally! Thank you for this review, Wolfgang, it's great. Jolla just announced a new device for SFOS (Xperia 10 II) and it would be great to do a review of that one when it comes out. Also, there were two slight issues with the review. It's super simple to install Openrepos app. Just download it through a browser and "click" on the .rpm file. The other "issue" is that Alien Dalvik supports Android 9 on SFOS 4. That's all. :) P.s. It's really easy to speed-up animations and to turn on/unlock display with double tap of the power button. Sorry for such a long rant, and keep on doing an amazing job.

[@grain2854]

Hey how to speed up animation scale on sailfish? I've been wanting to do that since I got my xperia 10 plus

[@branislavavramovic2601]

@@grain2854 I can't believe that I never replied to this. Sorry. You need to install Patchmanager 3 from Openrepos and then install the patch called Animation Settings. If it doesn't work properly, you can find the answer on this page. forum.sailfishos.org/t/patchmanager-patches-in-koli-4-0-1/4925/31

[@hazmatt_]

The UI for sailfish OS reminds me a lot of Blackberry 10 tbh. The home panel, the gesture controls, Very interesting!

[@jon4715]

I loved BB10. Best OS I've ever used...such a shame.

[@tanmay______]

Damn the video is so crisp

[@nichtgestalt]

As you may already know, there is this guy on KZbin called "Leszek Lesner" who dedicate the majority of his channel to Sailfish OS. He runs it on a Sony Experia 10 II as far as I know and he seems to be pretty happy with it. Also, if my informations are still up to date a Google Nexus 5 with Ubuntu Touch seems to be the safest Smartphone device when it comes to privacy. But don't quote me on that. Furthermore the whole privacy thing mainly depends on the software you installed. "Rob Braxman Tech" on KZbin developed an open source App for messaging without the need of a phone number. So for all of you guys who want to plan the next 9/11 this may be the best choice if you want to escape the grasp of the FBI. Anyway, thank you a lot for this and the rest of your videos. I really enjoy them and I learn something every time. Since the second lock down in germany I started Linux as a hobby and it is just so much fun. Gentoo (with a GUI) is still the endboss but I feel more and more comfortable. But I lose myself here. :D Have a nice day folks and enjoy the weekend. Osss!

[@oj0024]

I've been daily driving the pocophone f1 with lineage OS for over a year now and f-droid + termux have everything I need. It's obviously still android, but at least without any tracking from Google (hopefully).

[@techbuildspcs]

@Shane Sahil I don't.

[@oj0024]

@Shane Sahil No I don't, I use aurora stor to download the two to tree apps I need from the playstore. They all seme to wotk without the playstore api.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

Yep, 100% in agreement with you and, no, if you don't have GApps on it, Google can't track you. The phone needs the Google Play Services layer in GApps to track you - it's when you install that the the phone then expects you to sign in with a Google account. Without GApps, it doesn't do that.

[@farishanafiah8461]

I currently use a Samsung Note 4 with microG and definitely loving the deGoogle experience.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@farishanafiah8461 I've got rid of all my Samsung devices. They are becoming too locked down and are a pain in the backside when it comes to putting a custom ROM on. I've always managed to do it, but sometimes wasted a whole day doing it. They are as bad as Apple now, stay away from their products.

[@mright8351]

In Europe we also have /e/os from esolutions. Pre-installed. Very nice. My son uses Sailfish on the X, also very nice. Love it. But also love my FP3 with /e/os

[@FunnyHacks]

I'm using sailfish OS as my daily driver. I highly recommend checking out which phones sailfish supports from the Jolla shop before taking action. For example, I'm using the XA2 *PLUS*, which is still a budget phone from a couple of years shop, but is higher spec'd (eg twice the RAM (6GB)) and not much more expensive than the one shown here. It also doesn't have the performance issues the Wolfgang was having. Updates are regular (~3 months). They finally dropped support for their first phone a couple of months ago. That was something like 7 years of updates. Try finding an android or iOS phone that is officially supported, and usable that long.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

To be fair, iPhone 5S gets pretty close (6 years of support). The OG Jolla Phone is hadly "usable" these days, and didn't exactly have flagship level performance back when it came out. I was considering getting it back in 2017, and even back then the consensus was to just get a Sony device, since the Jolla Phone was really showing its age.

[@FunnyHacks]

@@WolfgangsChannel Apologies, "usable" is quite subjective, and I adjust my expectations based on the hardware. You're right, hardware specs have always been the achilles heal of Sailfish compatible devices. But they do really well with what they have. Taking that into account the Jolla 1 is still a usable phone. Calls, SMS, email, Android support (4.4.4) all still work well enough for what I need. I even did chroots on there for a while. Having said that, I did move onto more powerful phones because I wanted to do more capable chroots that were more RAM hungry. But seriously, do check out the other devices that Sailfish supports. You've chosen one of the oldest, which would explain why you were experiencing things like stuttering and poor battery life. Depending on my usage, I get 2-3 days out of my XA2 plus. I've heard that they are about to add some newer spec'd devices to the lineup, but I don't have anything official to point to there. Apologies, I didn't intend to come across as combative. It's just a shame you missed out at seeing it run on better hardware.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

@@FunnyHacks Hey, no worries, you didn't come off as combative. If anything, my reply isn't all sunshine and rainbows either. I've heard that the support for Xperia 10 II is also coming soon, and I might be able to get my hands on the device and test Sailfish on it.

[@FunnyHacks]

@@WolfgangsChannel Nice. I've heard good things about that phone. So if/when Sailfish starts supporting it officially, and you have time to play with it, I'll be very interested to see how you go. I'm already subscribed :)

[@deniswasepik3549]

@@WolfgangsChannel sir sailfish marletshare is 0.47 and ubuntu touch is 0.84 nemo is 0.12 foss is 0.92 but its still slim share

[@semaJ455]

Thanks for that. Informative especially your ideas about the possible future of a closed OS.

[@WedgeStratos]

SFOS XA2 user for nearly 2 years now, and it's a solid contender. Still not efficient, I have crashes every now and then, but with microG, most of my app gap issues are solved, Play services aren't lost fully, and native apps are getting better with each day, which is impressive. My biggest complaint with SFOS is its keyboard. Despite having great QoL features like the paste bar, there's this insufferable thing with the positioning of the bottom row: symbol, comma, space, period and enter keys are all nearly the same size, and it's.common.to,do.this,stuff.all.the time in your messages. Unfortunately, coderus hasn't released an updated patchmanager yet so my preferred large spacebar patch has been stuck in limbo for 3 months now since I updated to SFOS 4. Better news is, the Xperia 10 ii was just announced as supporting SFOS, with an X license coming soon for the Android support, so we're future-proofed for now on a new phone.

[@mujysr]

hi nice video,thank you I am using sailfish os installed on jolla c phone AS A PRIMARY PHONE since 2015. all problems of this phone you had mentioned it in your video. it is a fantastic os and i love it.

[@TheKeule33]

Do you live close to bavaria? I could borrow you my PinePhone for a week or two if you'd like to do some videos

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Hey, thanks for the offer! I already have one in the mail and it should arrive soon, but thanks!

[@Paul-ft5xy]

Where sis you guys cop a PinePhone in Europe?

[@Newbyte]

@@Paul-ft5xy Pine64's store.

[@lunarpassion]

Using Sailfish on XA2 for 2 years or so, but I am an N900 junkie.

[@infasis]

Damn, I thought for sure Sailfish would be available for my LGV20. Is there some reason there's no LG phones supported? The V20 was just the last really great flagship in my opinion. (Removable battery, high quality DAC, micro SD support, nice specs as you'd expect, etc) Edit: If anyone does know of a new, high quality phone that actually lets you replace the battery and has micro SD and a headphone jack please let me know. I absolutely hate trying to open these current devices to replace batteries and they always seem to go to shit way too quick.

[@telcobilly]

I'm with you! I had two V20s , VZ and a dual SIM GSM version. I gave away the VZ version. My international version is my mp3 deck for a tube amp... Would be nice to use it as a phone again..

[@infasis]

@@telcobilly Nice! The DAC is actually a huge reason bought mine. The V20 being able to function as a hifi media player even after retirement really is awesome. (I'm actually listening to music on mine with a pair of Fidelio X3s right now as I type this.) With as much as companies claim to care about the earth and everything it would be nice if they'd quit pushing things that either lose all their usefulness or need professional service to repair them after such a short time. This market is just so boring and lame compared to before. I hope someone shakes things up soon.

[@KacperZacharski]

I have ordered XA2 Plus yesterday. Gonna install sailfish, I was waiting to test that OS for over a year.

[@robosapien314]

Hey awesome video, but one question: which operating system are you running on your ThinkPad, eg at 3:40? It looks like MacOs, but the Terminal looks kind of like Ubuntu.

[@iodreamify]

Thanks Wolfgang! Your videos always have your honest opinion with advice on a practical level

[@WolfgangsChannel]

My pleasure!

[@kaytee7607]

I love your channel! Keep up the great work, friend!

[@barbyboi]

Wait, you Rickrolled us in timestamps??

[@andrive]

Lol

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Might as well, since KZbin took the chapters away from me :(

[@user-kx7ls8ds9j]

He just forwarded the random trolls from KZbin to us

[@andrive]

@@WolfgangsChannel how does that happen

[@snowcode953]

@@WolfgangsChannel What the f? "Not eligible for chapters". Do you imagine if KZbin would be a book publisher? "Sorry, your book is not eligible for table of content" xD

[@moranmono]

The market needs more competition, give us Linux now

[@farishanafiah8461]

There has been a lot of competitions before. It's just that most people refuse to try out new things. They are so stuck to Android and iOS that they won't be bothered trying something else.

[@EdouardTavinor]

i really can't see anybody developing an operating system as good as android for mobile devices. The investment in Android is enormous. It's an open-source linux operating system with a huge app ecosystem. it's basically what sailfish os wants to be.

[@jeffbrownstain]

Damn, I love that Sailor Moon phone case..

[@markmercier]

Well done video! Just bought an XA2 Ultra to see if it can meet my basic needs. Thank you!

[@yoless42]

Any thoughts on the Volla-Phone? What about a comparison of Ubuntu Touch vs. Sailfish OS?

[@crazymonkeyVII]

From everything I've seen, Jolla (makers of Sailfish) is miles ahead of ubuntu touch and plasma mobile with regards of speed, fluid user interface, etc.

[@MartinBohun]

I got my first Pinephone1.2 in July 2021 (ordered late June 2021), and i paid 300AUD including the DHL delivery fee to Canberra, ACT. I am very happy with it, I installed postmarketOS on it.

[@finnk1289]

The camera quality is what sets this apart from the Pinephone as a daily driver. With that said, because of the speed and battery life, I'm going to run Calyx OS on a Pixel 4a instead. Probably.

[@NetStacker]

7:38 Loving the MacOS on ThinkPad look along with SailFish OS X. Great video, really got me thinking back to the days of tinkering with 4.4 on my Galaxy Tab 4 overclocking & customising ROM's. Recently been just using Termux on my S8, running emulated arch, alpine & ubuntu (mainly just for lols & general ARM-compatibility tests, not performance haha). SailFish looks amazing though, refreshingly unique. Miss the design of my XA2 as well, this video might have convinced me to go back to Sony!

[@pajaf0341]

look it up. sailfish runs on newer sony devices, too. and even if they provide support for an eternity compared to samsung etc, the android emulation does onlz get updates for the newer models. experia x dod not get the upgrade for android 8.1 compability ant the users were outraged. the A2 will be thw next fo fall out of the list, i suppose.

[@manofthebees]

babe wake up, Wolfgang uploaded a new video

[@genesisbustamante-durian]

you do not have a girlfriend.

[@iamkrishhnan]

How are you using Mac OS on a Lenovo laptop? 03:34

[@mingyech]

Just fyi you may be able to run snapchat if you download the apk from huawei's app store, which have the google root detection removed (since huawei can't use google).

[@NICKELGHANDI]

I have a pinephone. It's pretty much unusable. Battery is about 3 hours. Calls and texts are spotty. Development is slow.

[@brostenen]

Sounds like Galaxy S3, when that got launched. I had the big model, not mini, and I am so happy that it was back then and not now. I just bought a Moto G30 and retired my Moto G5s. This G30 have like the most awesomme battery life. Medium to low use, eats around 20 percent on a whole day. I mean, that is with 4 hours of gaming Real Racing 3.

[@Adrien_broner]

Pinephone is still in development. They specifically tell you before you buy one that it is the beta version only, basically still in it's developmental stages and that it is not for the average consumer nor intended to be a commercially available product. Can't blame them for that. Pretty upfront about everything.

[@NICKELGHANDI]

@@Adrien_broner I agree, but that doesn't make it any more usable in it's current state and even for a developer, the hardware just can't keep up. I am looking forward to future releases and heavily support the project.

[@arkieologist]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I would jump on the Pinephone if they had fairly solid equipment and were user friendly! Love the concept. I'm not savvy enough though.

[@jasongreenwood3260]

I've been rocking the XA2 for a few years now... There's so much I love about this phone. The main reason I like it is screen size and battery life. I have attempted to flash it a few times now, but it won't show up in ADB. I'm not sure what's going on with that, but I'd love to run Liniage on it.

[@tbang9094]

Have you considered looking at Fairphone 3+ and the various custom ROMs available for it?

[@WolfgangsChannel]

It looks really good! I've sent them an email back when it came out, asking if they could hook me up with a review unit, but they told me they were out of phones :(

[@Vipershark12345]

YES PLEASE!

[@arkieologist]

I would love to see him review these phones too. 👌

[@jamescurtis47]

Is it /e/ foundation, lineage and Ubuntu Touch available on the Fairphone 3? Seems like a good selection, I guess only G Pixel has stronger options.

[@kasciwu4939]

Anbox is actually not paravirtualization - it's a container, which means it's just another process but marked by the kernel to have different users, file system, users, etc.

[@11Bbq]

I’m really into this. Wow. I’m 100% looking into this.

[@n4p3r0]

Congratz on 100k :)

[@hibikiholmes2867]

Your eyes roll more often than Rick Astley's hit song.

[@black11189]

Hum at 1:05 is it and iPhone ? Cauze my Android do so much more than calling, music and social media ...

[@joran4612]

Congrats on 100k

[@blu3h4t]

Thank you Wolfgang. I was waiting to be able to order PinePhone for several months. Just to have hardware that would support Sailfish OS. But i dont like the modern trend of huge phones. So im now ordering Xperia instead of Pinephone thanks to this video. Мир дружба жвачка. :D

[@blu3h4t]

and after ordering i see that the battery is not easily removable, i guess this is a big plus for pinephone then. :D

[@gotswag3733]

On a second thought it's still good cause this way I can now use sailfish for a time while pinephone improves. Also just bought an os for the first time. :D

[@blu3h4t]

Fvck, they sent me an L2 instead of XA2.. :( edit: i guess ill go order a pinephone then, hope they dont send me a librephone :D

[@DevDungeon]

I bought a Librem 5 in Feb 2021 and it still hasn't shipped over 1 year later

[@purplelix8357]

Das Video bei 9:10 ist nicht von Purism, sondern von LTT bzw. ShortCircuit ;-)

[@barbyboi]

Stimmt, ja

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Oops, my bad

[@atarix_official]

one of the best utube channels atm, pls keep going

[@krattah]

You know you can just tap the packages to install them? (no terminal needed, may have to allow 3rd-party packages in settings, but still) Also; you went to Storeman/OpenRepos to install the one of the apps you mentioned that is actually in the store.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Unfortunately the Fernschreiber version that I downloaded from the store wouldn’t work correctly. Probably an older version

[@krattah]

​@@WolfgangsChannel Hmmm, the changelog doesn't tell of any recent breakages. The latest version hit OpenRepos Mar 3, and the store Mar 15, but it is justa build target addition and translation update. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe i'm too used used to some few rough edges... after all i have daily-driven SFOS since the launch in 2013.

[@prokawriter1096]

Me: thinks that Wolfgang is German meanwhile Wolfgang: *бляяяяяя*

[@zweiwing4435]

What do you think of PinePhone Pro, FairPhone 4?

[@nies_diy986]

Diclaimer, Before you proceed installing Sailfish , please note that : 1, Boot loader will not be re locked for XA 2 , 2, its really very hard to go back to stock Rom 3, Sail fish is still in its infancy , APp support is really very bad , there are no main stream apps , e.g. Facebook , whats app, instagram , etc etc .

[@joesquarepants5354]

Are you still using your split keyboard? I need a review of that please

[@jimbo-dev]

Thanks for bringing attention to Sailfish! More users on Sailfish means better apps and apps written for sailfish are more intercompatible with other linux phones than android apps, so stronger community on sailfish benefits fully open source linux phones too

[@gardenapple]

What's funny is that I bought a Sony Xperia XA2 purely because it's one of the last 16:9 Android phones that I could find on the market. I've used one of those super-tall Xiaomis and I hated it, the Sony is much more comfortable. And I had no idea that SailfishOS even existed, so that's a win-win.

[@butisitlogical3096]

The Pinephone doesn't cost twice as much. The ad is for the 200 dollar 3GB/32GB model (not the 150 dollar 2GB/16GB model), which costs with import about 220-240 euros in Germany.

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Yep, you're right. My bad for not researching more

[@butisitlogical3096]

@@WolfgangsChannel It's cool bro, mistakes happen :D And this certainly makes for a better story xD

[@markusroth8770]

I would like to add two things. First, sailfish os should also work on the XA 2 Ultra which is... just bigger I guess. Second, the two phones are also compatible with lineage os.

[@Adrien_broner]

Don't got a grand to shell out

[@blu3h4t]

Wolfgang, I’ve used sailfish on an Xperia for a few years as a secondary device now. But now I’ve heard they are going to put the updates behind a paywall. What do you think it’s time to switch to graphene or something like that?

[@rubenms9152]

The heart sticker on the ThinkPad looks as lovely as Wolfgang. Thanks for the review though

[@nunyobiznez875]

I had no problems at all getting a pinephone. I ordered a pinephone literally just 2 days before the date on this video, and the device was delivered to me halfway around the world in less than a week, despite me ordering it the day after the cutoff date listed for an April delivery. It came much earlier than I expected, and about 2 weeks earlier than the estimated date that was given when I ordered it. Maybe I just got lucky, but I don't think so. They seem to be available to anyone that wants to get one, with only a minor estimated delay for delivery.

[@locklear308]

only issue with it is that it's entirely too slow to be usable. Sucks cause I'm SO ready to get away from google and shit.

[@nunyobiznez875]

​@@locklear308 The SoC is definitely a bit disappointing and won't win any speed awards, but it IS usable. On the plus side though, it should also have good battery life lol. I do wish they had gone with a more powerful SoC as well, but I'm guessing the primary reason for choosing this specific SoC, is because there's a full suite of open source drivers available in the mainline kernel for it, which has been one of the biggest hurdles for a project like this. Especially the cellular modem drivers, which is basically the difference between having a phone or a tiny tablet with no mobile connectivity. Most other SoCs are fully dependent on proprietary binary drivers, with licensing restrictions. But I'm certain there were other considerations for this specific SoC as well. I didn't buy this phone intended as a long term solution. I wasn't even sure I was going to use it as a primary device. The price is low enough, and I'd be happy if I got a year or two out of it. Hopefully there will be other options down the road. In the mean time, it'll still be a fun toy, even after it's replaced, especially having the docking bar. Not to mention, you won't have Google tracking your every move on GPS, which they do even if you think you've disabled it, or have them monitoring everything you do online, just mostly everything lol.

[@lattice.d]

cant wait for manjaro based phones lol, i know that pine phone exists but that's more like a stop gap for now. demand for these things are very high.

[@jack-zc3gj]

great video wolfgang

[@Newbyte]

The PinePhone is "out of stock" because it's sold in batches. You can buy them every now and then, you just need to keep up with Pine64's news. Also, Anbox is not "paravirtualisation". It's just a container, like what Docker uses.

[@agroleau04]

Nice Spotify top tracks :)

[@leeh.1900]

So what about the native telemetry....is the phone OS itself tracking you? The telemetry enviro of this OS?

[@midnightprotocol8600]

Thanks for the review! Subbed.

[@Carlos-qi8er]

good to see you again

[@robofalkor1599]

His first eye roll is 2 seconds into the video

[@QuadMoePiece]

In December I was lucky enough to get a brand new Xperia 10 at a clearance sale for 1500 NOK (~$180). It was an absolute steal and SailfishOS 4 fixed most issues I had with Sailfish (most notably the extremely outdated browser engine). So I’m probably going to be using it until the Pinephone matures. I’m hoping the Xperia 10 ii will go on a similar sale as well when the Xperia 10 iii is out. (Assuming the Pinephone isn’t my daily driver by then)

[@priyanshuvyas4804]

i have used sailfish os but problem is that it doesnt support volte

[@sykoteddy]

I really enjoyed this video! I took a fast look at your channel to see if you possibly had an updated version of this video since it's been about 1 1/2 year since this video. If not, pretty please make a new one! 🙏

[@meekdook4236]

Wolfgang, do you know if there is some kind of linux operatingsystem that will work on a Sony Xperia X8?

[@kittencure]

Sailfish OS and Ubuntu Touch are subpar to full-scale Debian/Phosh, or Arch Linux/Plasma and PostmarketOS.

[@niklasdavind4722]

Looks beautiful

[@rajdeepsingha3523]

This thing is close to the perfect for me, I try to avoid using social media on my phone, I use signal as my main text app, and I can also run android apps when I need to. I'll probably buying this one. I've been without a phone since I lost my iPhone back in 2019.

[@RunOnTuxPower]

You should look out for Xperia 10 ii which will soon be officially supported and has better specs and camera.

[@0x29aNull]

Hey wolfgang, good video. However you can get a better phone for about the same price that runs android, sailfish os, and even linux! That phone is the OnePlus 6. It has an octocore cpu and 8 gb ram. I got mine for $180

[@WolfgangsChannel]

Fair point! Unfortunately, Sailfish OS X is only supported on Sony phones, which means that even though some phones might be able to run SFOS through community ports, they'll lack the Android app functionality, as well as predictive text input and some other features.

[@M4tth2w]

3:45 unrelated... but, is that macOSX running on a thinkpad X1 carbon?

[@WolfgangsChannel]

yes

[@TheMonyarm]

Damn it, I just bought my new phone. If only this video was out earlier.

[@FatalistDC]

N900 is my all-time favorite phone. I like Sailfish too. A question: Does Sailfish X version 4 allow you to record calls? (sender and receiver)

[@RunOnTuxPower]

It sure does with this app: openrepos.net/content/dpurgin/call-recorder

[@deliriumcode]

Thanks for this kind of content!

[@JessicaFEREM]

I can't wait for the day that i can use a full linux smartphone, but for now I'm sticking to my $1800 foldable phone because it's the most interesting thing happening in phone tech at the moment. without giving up my creature comforts like games and normal apps.

[@electrocatalyst]

where did you buy that mechanical keyboard?

[@ThisTall]

I didn’t think canadians have to pay customs on items from America if the product is actually made there?

[@peterge98]

In the spotify scene were the new Architects album and the Black Flame Cover from Bury Tomorrow, both bands seen live in Germany already

[@sc0820]

here i found a hercaim.

[@peterge98]

@@sc0820 u mean hecarim? My profile picture?

[@michaelmartin4383]

There will be big demand for these phones. I hope Sony can supply at the rate of demand.

[@kittencure]

The PinePhone is back in stock. I run Mobian (Debian) on it.

[@adsick_ua]

Sony Xperia is striking back right now, dude, check the market. The new models are pricey, but they worth it.

[@jannuarytrash]

6:57 when the ambient works are selected! 😳

[@jacekjagosz]

If you get a Sailfish device, make sure to install Aliendalvik-control, patchmanager and no home carouselle patch. I have used SFOS for about 5 years. I can say for all this time it has been completely usable as your only daily driver and quite enjoyable, but it has its flaws. You have to not like Android or really want to use something else for it to be worth it. The good: - The UI is amazing, in my opinion so much better than any other OS, especially with patches - Native apps have really consistent UI, they look beautiful and I prefer them over most Android ones - Android apps actually just work, with MicroG the compatibility is similar to ungoogled Android, even bank apps - Lightness of the OS and native apps means the system just flies on even old phones, even on Jolla Phone 1 which is 7 years old, which runs OS version that is like 3 months old The bad: - Web browser's Gecko only recently got updated which make it actually usable for modern web. But all native apps still use ancient QTWebkit - The performance of Android apps is quite bad, they eat a lot of RAM and sometimes can make my phone crash. They are there if you need them, but you should use native as much as possible - The device selection is just not good enough, only phones that right now have the full OS version with current Android support are Sony Xperia XA2 and Xperia 10. That's it. And they are older mid-range devices, which really doesn't help with Android performance - And there are many community ports for really cool devices like Pinephone, FX TEC, Fair Phone, Motorolas or OnePluses, you don't get Android support which makes them unusable as your only phone. In theory you can move Aliendalvik from your Xperia to other devices, but that is not quite legal

[@harryniedecken5321]

Anyone know what the issue is related to use of sailfish os in the US? I didn't look recently but in the past I wasn't able to purchase it through their site.

[@angelmesa9530]

Thanks for you review!!!

[@pwnengine]

Isn't the de closed source. I think a read that some years ago