A $35 REAL Neo Geo?! | SmokeMonster Buying Guide

[@Sayajiin2]

Just bought a Neo Geo MSV C like suggested. Never tought it could have been accessible price wise! Always wanted to jump in the arcade world and this is a great opportunity. I'm glad you clarified the subject for a lot of us because it is not as easy as buying a video game console.

[@SmokeMonster]

That fills my heart with joy. Arcade games are really rewarding and are a lot easier to set up than they seem at first glance. You'll love it.

[@GadgetUK164]

Great video! It is amazing how cheap some of these are from China! One thing you can run into (not a big problem, but they should be pointing it out when selling them) - often the 1B boards sold on there have one of the Neo-Buf chips bypassed out. But, it doesn't really affect anything tbh. Just the fact it has been repaired. Might order a 1C myself at some point from AliExpress!

[@SmokeMonster]

That's good to know! Yes, those MV-1Cs are just incredible deals in a world where we can rarely get anything cheap. Keep up the great work with your channel--I linked to it in the video when I talk about the 161-in-1 :D

[@skins4thewin]

Yup, this is basically exactly what I did for my setup many years ago. MVS boards have always been super cheap as well as the Chinese Multicarts. The somewhat tricky/expensive part is finding a way to get the game on your TV and interfacing the Joysticks as well as buying the Joysticks. So this cost is a bit misleading as you also have to buy a Supergun and Joystick for the unit which is where things can get a bit pricier. By the time you buy a decent Supergun and the Joystick you are gonna be easily looking at over $200. It's definitely worth it tho as it's an AWESOME setup! Oh, and you also need to already have a way of getting RGB to your TV as well with a lot of the Superguns, so there's that too. Another added expense if you aren't already set up for RGB.

[@agentorange8530]

I'll wait for the Analogue NG, so I'll come back to this video in 2021

[@SmokeMonster]

Want :D

[@InvictvsNox]

That'd be amazing. I hope they're working on something like that!

[@yosoyyo224]

With cd please

[@brunovilela6072]

@@InvictvsNox ,They already have one...launched in 2011 i think...

[@nexusofice9135]

You all know that Analog came out with a NeoGeo console YEARS ago ... Right?

[@SmokeMonster]

Tiangfeng informed me that v2.0 161-in-1's new revision has all of GadgetUK's fixes applied and all of the capacitors populated. Although you're not guaranteed to get that version when you order, here is the link. The early v2s had a hot-glued cable between the two PCBs inside, but the new/good v2 has a proper JST connector www.aliexpress.com/item/32881430413.html

[@snooks5607]

it's a bit odd that many products built in china have been designed to work ok but then they leave out or replace random components saving couple of cents to make unreliable product that just gives the seller a bad reputation. I wish they'd just built things as they were designed.

[@owlnonymous]

Thumbs up for cat at 14:22

[@SmokeMonster]

Panther attack!

[@SmokeMonster]

Even when this listing sells out, the going price of a Neo Geo MVS 1-slot has hovered between $40-70 for the last 10 years or so, and I've added a bunch of links to similarly priced listings to the comments. The Happ 15 Amp is cheaper now than when I made the video too. Also, my mic's noise gate filter was way off, but I have that fixed already and I promise it won't happen again :D

[@GarmrNL]

Recently started watching your video’s and now I have an MVS and supergun connected to my CRT :-) Thanks for all the great content, subbed!

[@dlang6487]

This is EXACTLY how I got into Neo Geo almost 4 years ago. I now run an AES with flashcart as you predicted! Thanks for all you do for the community Smoke!

[@SmokeMonster]

Awesome. I got my 1-slot from a Chinese seller on eBay a loooong time ago and it's served me well too. A great, cheap way to get started.

[@Miketage]

Can you recommend a build thread or a tutorial for consolizing an MVS the proper way without having to get a supergun? I've found so many but just wanna make sure to get off on the right foot. Love your content and thanks for all you do!!!

[@Jamie-yp7qz]

My MVS MV-1B board just came in the mail today. There were definitely some fixes done to it (some glue and wiring is present on most of the caps near the audio amp), but looks fine. I know a guy locally who has JAMMA cabinets to test on, so that way I can test the board. Can't wait to consolize it!

[@Hardware_Hermit]

Welp, looks like I caught the arcade bug. Ordered a 1 slot, multi, put my name on the has preorder, might build a mini gun in the short term; and pulled the trigger on a primal rage arcade pcb, I would always play it at the laundry mat when I was a kid I think mom dumped more quarters in the arcade rather then actually doing laundry. Haha, always thought arcade stuff was to expensive to get into. Thanks for the video smoke!

[@SmokeMonster]

Awesome! Definitely grab the JNX Rage to save yourself having to remap buttons every time you use Primal Rage. It converts PR to standard Jamma+ www.jamma-nation-x.com/jammax/store.html

[@paulsutton9278]

While I didn't order from this person, I've bought 3 different MV-1Bs off ebay from 3 different sellers, each one worked anywhere from 30 minutes to 6 hours before developing graphical issues all stemming from the NEO-GRC2. I wa orginially determined to stick with the 1B for its size, but for MVS #4 I went with a 1C. No issues so far! (knock on a woodgrain cmvs).

[@patrickstrahm05]

Picked up a Neo Geo AES right after I watched this video, might just have to pick up a MVS as well

[@SmokeMonster]

It's not a bad way to spend $25-30 or so.

[@kane01337]

Perfect video - with bonus cat at the end ! A++

[@LukeDodge916]

Great video man. I'm just getting into this after realizing that I cannot afford to collect Neo Geo in it's stock glory. I may jump headlong into this...

[@jonniefast]

very excited/ got our gear in the mail today 😻

[@emmettturner9452]

ATX PSUs weren’t always weak on 5v. The spec has been revised many times over the years. When it was first introduced they typically had a ton of amps on 5v for the same reason arcade machines did... because that’s what systems needed back then and ATX was just adapting AT. AT PSUs also typically have a lot of amps on 5v.

[@SmokeMonster]

On paper they'll rate them at 5V 30A but then they'll fail to power boards that even need 2-3A. They're junk and have no place powering arcade equipment. Believe me, I've seen this countless times. My first question when people have a problem is "what PSU do you have?" and they almost always have either an ATX PSU or laptop brick that is causing their problems. And there's the issue of audio and video noise that they introduce.

[@emmettturner9452]

SmokeMonster Yeah. That’s definitely been the case for the last 20-plus years but I’m talking about before that. It became a big deal in the ’90s when ATX first got revised. The EU standards forced MFGs to switch to noisy PFC PSUs and ATX+12v was the death knell for proper ATX PSUs with decent 5V output... unless you spent a small fortune on a PC Power and Cooling kilowatt PSU. ;) I think mine cost me $600 in the early 2000s. Definitely wouldn’t put that in a super gun though

[@SmokeMonster]

@@emmettturner9452 Oh wow, sounds like they don't make them like they used to. It's kind of a shame since they do have such a nice form factor.

[@nitronamous]

Ever since I found your channel I have taken a deep dive into arcade hardware! There is nothing like having original arcade quality in your living room. If you do your homework and shop around you can get things very reasonable.

[@SmokeMonster]

That warms my heart to hear, thanks! :D

[@yllib2012]

I ordered a custom MVS console in a brushed stainless steel case. Now I have to wait for it to be built and shipped. If it looks and works as good as the pictures, I'll be very happy.

[@SmokeMonster]

That sounds awesome, you'll love it :D

[@merlingt1]

Just ordered an MV-1C and will be building a Minigun. Fun ahead. Thx.

[@nexusofice9135]

"Supergun"

[@sayocean86]

love the wild hair

[@Zionfarm]

So thankful for this video Smoke. I will be getting a MVS-1C from eBay. I already own a HAS v3.2 with some cool add on hats.

[@laurencebyers1322]

I watched this vid, then ended up buying an MV1 FZ board from AliEx. A month or maybe more and it arrived today. O what did I get myself into?!??!? anyway I was hoping to get an HAS Supergun, but they arent taking orders, so I ordered a Parsec, just the bare board is pretty cheap, I will have to build it myself. I think I need only +5V / 12V power supply, dont seem to need -5V. And eventually a 160 in 1 I guess. Wish me luck friends

[@sparcx86channel42]

the retrocollecting is very expensive but you won't like mess with MVS stuff, for the beginners several stuff can be wrong. Its better just get a Mister and done.

[@Zionfarm]

Finally got back home and my MV1C was in my mail box. Hooked it up to my HAS/OSSC and brilliant. It all works. And it looks like my MV1C is a (Asia/S3) Ver.6 model.

[@emmettturner9452]

I got my MV-1FZ and MV-1 for $70 with Samurai Shodown and Samurai Shodown II. The MV-1FZ was tossed in for $30 along with a copy of Samurai Shodown II because it was supposedly broken but I ended up accidentally fixing it just by burning a NeoDiagROM and UniBIOS. Oh yeah: the game just needed to be cleaned. ;) That’s right. The only issue was a dead BIOS that I had already inadvertently fixed with a replacement BIOS before I even started troubleshooting. XD Literally hadn’t even powered it on at the time.

[@SmokeMonster]

Nice! I've bought a few for-repair multi-slots and they were really easy fixes too. I guess I got lucky though since they can be pretty intense to fix sometimes.

[@snooks5607]

got two mv1fzs with issues for 15€/ea last year, one was just about fixing shorted pins, haven't bothered with the second one yet. deals are definitely out there

[@emmettturner9452]

Snooks score! Well, if it does anything like the MV-1 I demonstrated without a BIOS in my video then you know it’s just the BIOS ROM... you know: in case this is a common problem for MV-1FZ BIOS ROM dying.

[@Izquierda]

This makes it really tempting to go for a real Neo Geo setup, but it's still a lot of work. So far even in my relatively large 10-system setup I haven't bothered because emulation even on a Wii or a Raspberry Pi seems good enough, and the cost and effort seemed too high for the reward. With great flashcarts now available I think I would prefer to spend extra on a plug-and-play consolized solution if I do decide to go for the real thing. Anyway, cool video and cool cat entertaining himself.

[@SmokeMonster]

Yeah, MVS does emulate nicely too. I'd avoid those consolized MVS like the plague though, they're junk and they will limit you to just MVS instead of opening up the world of arcade gaming like a nice supergun.

[@TranquilVision]

Well these prices have gone up quite a bit since this.

[@2bin]

Great budget alternative to playing in the arcade. That said, nothing compares to the look and feel of playing on a real MVS arcade cabinet.

[@gaeljehnno]

Back in the day(+10 years) i bought a slot like that and a new astro city because that was cheaper them metal slug for my aes. Never regreted it.

[@eireian4939]

Using a cbox past 6 months with no issues. Good system. Previously used MV1B with supergun but was messy.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

You're welcome Smokey. 8^) Glad to give a helping hand. 8^) I see that you now GadgetUK (Chris) and also ClassicGamingQuarterly (Chris) Two great fellas that I'm glad you're familiar with them bro. I follow them as well and they know me for sharing their SNK/Neo-Geo content on the Neo-Geo thread on Atariage.com. Anthony...

[@vp-retro]

Awwww, Panther playing with the laser lights.

[@SmokeMonster]

He's a crazy kitty!

[@DimitriLeeBX]

I just read your cps2 master list and happened to stumble across this video when searching for info on the Neo Geo 2

[@andycraig7734]

A great video though the MV-1A service manual calls for a minimum power supply rating of 5v 3A and 12v 1A so I suspect you could use a PC power supply. (edit- I went with Happ just because of the recognizable brand name and the fear of a bad PS smoking all my stuff 🙀)

[@SmokeMonster]

Yeah, you can't trust pc psu ratings at all either. Good choice getting an arcade psu.

[@jeffbrewster4024]

Sega stack just chillin in the background. Love it!

[@skins4thewin]

And I'm telling ya, the problems with the 161 in 1 carts are completely overblown. Yes, there are slight audio issues here and there and the rare graphical glitch, but they are rather minor and really not that big a deal. I have had very few issues with mine. Seriously, the issues are overblown and I wouldn't concern yourself with it if you're on a budget. Besides, there are some relative easy fixes if you're handy with a soldering iron.

[@IronChefBoyardee]

I was very sad to find out that Garou: Mark of the Wolves is broken on the 161-in-1 (and in more ways that most people know about, but I imagine this is because very few people are playing the game competitively on this particular cart who can uncover all the bugs). Ended up needing to spend the 200USD to get the game on real hardware. Worth it for me.

[@SmokeMonster]

Yeah, that's the 161 for you :D

[@IronChefBoyardee]

Kain has a target combo in that game performed by cancelling down A+B into C, and it's a staple of a lot of his more damaging combos. The moment you cancel into C the game crashes.

[@SmokeMonster]

@@IronChefBoyardee Yeah, that's a real shame since it's such a beautiful game.

[@murrij]

Now I'm excited. There goes my weekend.

[@axelkusanagi4139]

@smokemonster You said to not connect PC power supplies, but the Sentinel only has the connections for a PC power supply; it recommends v1.3 and lower PS, but are you saying you should still use the HAPP PS?

[@SmokeMonster]

Minigun just uses ATX as the connector, you can attach a normal arcade PSU there.

[@cosmickatamari]

Smokemonster with the low key tower of power prop!

[@videogameobsession]

IIRC those Aliexpress Neo boards are likely bootleg hardware. Maybe it doesn't matter and they are close to original hw. I think they started reproducing them to add to those cheap CMVS systems. That must be why they are suddenly plentiful again.

[@SmokeMonster]

MVS motherboards were cloned, but never en masse. Games, yes. But there's no risk of getting a clone motherboard from these sellers. Everyone I know who's into MVS has been buying these Chinese 1-slots for the last decade at least and no one ever reported getting a clone. They do exist, but it's not a risk.

[@videogameobsession]

@@SmokeMonster OK, good to know. thanks! So, is it safe to say that the MVS 1-slot boards used in the JAMMA CBOXs sold on Aliexpress are also original hardware?

[@SmokeMonster]

@@videogameobsession Yes, those are real MV-1Cs inside.

[@videogameobsession]

@@SmokeMonster Awesome, thanks man.

[@pokemooney9329]

I know that gRetrostuff has stated the Supergun warning on their website. Have there been tests with the ones you recommended, or is it just far too risky and I should just keep the cables beside my TV?

[@SmokeMonster]

You just have to understand what's dangerous. Any supergun with speaker level audio and/or out of spec TTL sync can be dangerous. The ones I listed are all fully buffered/attenuated, and have re-generated sync, so they're safe. This is what I refer to as a modern supergun vs a pass-through type.

[@Dazdigo]

I was just looking at the AVS system that where $400+ and that turned me off. Surprised the MVS systems were so cheap. How is Furrtek's Mister implement of it coming along?

[@SmokeMonster]

This is a great alternative to the AES, or a way to hold yourself over until you find a better price at least. Furrtek is making huge progress on his core and it's coming along really well.

[@albekas295]

Once again a great video ;) Makes me want to jump in MVS Do you have any idea for a good quality price ratio STEREO mother board revision ? Thanks !

[@SmokeMonster]

Check out the motherboard comparison charts I posted if you're looking for stereo or controller ports.

[@sixteenbitter]

As a complete novice, how does one wire that Suzo Happ power supply?

[@SmokeMonster]

You need to look up directions for that, it can be dangerous for you and your games if you get it wrong.

[@xminorthreatx]

The whole shebang costs roughly $245 by my count if you go with the HAS. Tempting, but for that kind of money Analogue could put out something that has a 100% compatibility with 100% of the library...

[@SmokeMonster]

Yeah, but a good supergun allows you to play any Jamma arcade game ever made, so it opens up tens of thousands of games beyond just Neo Geo. There are a few cheaper Neo Geo specific mini-superguns coming that I'll cover which will do the same thing but will be way under the $100 mark, possibly closer to $50.

[@mostverticalproductions4808]

Would a Neo-GeoMVS motherboard work with a Pana MP-92 supergun out of the gate?

[@skins4thewin]

LOL you think IDENTICALLY to me! The first Arcade devices I wanted and got were also TMNT and an MVS! Now I am on the hunt for an original Simpsons board but jeez those things are expensive!

[@dantebishop3361]

Haven't been able to find any of the superguns you mentioned in the video. What do you recommend? The only one I've really even seen lately is the Retroelectronik one.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

What an incredible and highly informative video you done here SmokeMonster. So very true on how the days of growing up in the 1990's with Neo-Geo. You had to be part of the top 1% to buy a Neo-Geo. Now you can pay pennies on the dollar to enjoy owning and gaming them in your home establishment. Excellent work for sure. 8^) My name is Anthony. I'm the topic starter of, The Official NEO-GEO Thread on Atariage.com. I posted this fantastic video up on there for others to enjoy and give additional exposure to you works and channel. Your upload is on page 776, post #19,391 for you to view. Thank you again kind sir. If you have more Neo-Geo content or planing to share more of, I'll be glad to post them up on the Neo-Geo thread on Atariage.com. Thank you again. Keep up the great work.8^) Anthony...

[@SmokeMonster]

Awesome, thanks, Anthony! :D

[@studiokadaver]

I’m personally looking at getting a MV-1C

[@thajo310]

Excellent, a lot of good info

[@SmokeMonster]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Colin_Ames]

A very interesting video. Thanks!

[@SmokeMonster]

Thank you for watching :D

[@eric90000]

Just ordered an MVS-1C board after watching this...damn you Smoke Monster lol. Besides the Happ PSU, are the ones recommended on the HAS Supergun FAQ suitable? - Mean Well MWP-606, Prima Power 42PP0606 & Mean Well RT-65A. Thanks for all the info man, much appreciated.

[@eric90000]

Just ordered the 161-in-1 cart and put my name on the HAS pre-order list too, in for a penny in for a pound right? Hopefully I get one of the updated carts with GadgetUK's fixes already implemented. Now I just need the PSU :)

[@lior.lav1]

Hello, what about the "Supergun Retroelectronik arcade ProGamer" from France? Do you recommend this one in terms of RGB & sync signals? Thanks

[@27waystowin]

Good idea with the setup, but I would rather buy a single mvs cart rather than buying the 161 cart, as it defeats the the purpose of the real neo feel as the multi carts are emulation. May aswell play emulation on your PC.

[@SmokeMonster]

Flash carts aren't really emulation in the traditional sense, but I get what you're saying.

[@bigdaddyprofit]

thanks for the info man

[@Newtonip]

I paid more than that. I got my single slot mvs about 6 years ago for $75.

[@S3v3n11a]

Great info!! Thank you!

[@SmokeMonster]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

[@thetigerman]

thank you for this video, If I have a Neo Geo Omega should I consider building one with a board or am I good with mine? another question where did you get that custom clear case and nice label?

[@SmokeMonster]

If you have a Neo Geo Omega, you already have a real Neo Geo! I got the case from a forum a long time ago, and I made the label myself :)

[@thetigerman]

@@SmokeMonster oh ok I was on a forum where some guy stopped making the clear cases so I missed out. If you ever make a batch and sell that label let me know please it looks badass👍.

[@simbin.]

How much does the HAS SuperGun cost, and is it the most affordable option? All I can find is the pre-order mailing list, thanks.

[@LuizFernando-eb4cn]

fake information title. if you spend $35 you have, at best, a working mvs motherboard. you do not have a controller, nor a power supply unit, and you can't even dream about a half decent supergun.

[@tonydrony2670]

Hi smoke monster Could you recommend a 161 neo cart... are there one better then others... thanks champ

[@SmokeMonster]

Here's the one I recommend. Several of us have ordered from this seller and they have the newest revision. The old 161-in-1s were full of problems that the new revision fixed aliexpress.com/item/32881430413.html

[@LarsZondervan]

So, I was just wondering: on ali there are a lot of these 2 player Pandora arde stick systems (Pandora box based with joysticks and bottons etc.). How hard would it be to put a MVS in there? I can imagine it will be difficult to fit it (so perhaps a jamma lead is required). But otherwise it may be a very cheap solution to have a MVS outputting trough HDMI (!!) and have joystick input.....

[@8bit596]

Everyone should be aware that any MVS pcb coming out of China is likely to be a bootleg board, particularly the mv-1c. I have not heard any complaints of the bootlegs quality or do I have experience with them, but at the very least be aware of what you are buying.

[@SmokeMonster]

That's not true at all. I wouldn't be directing anyone these if they were likely to be bootlegs. The MVS was too common to be cloned en masse and no one has ever gotten a clone motherboard from these sellers. Game bootlegs are common of course, but motherboard clones are quite rare and there is no risk of getting a bootleg. The whole point is that REAL MVS hardware is cheap.

[@8bit596]

I noticed in one of the listings that a couple of people posted pics of their pcbs they received complaining of damage and from what little I can see in the photos the boards do look legit. Call me paranoid but stuff like this from China and Hong Kong I am always skeptical of.

[@SmokeMonster]

@@8bit596 Yeah, I have heard that the condition varies greatly with these, and there is a chance that some boards will have been repaired or damaged. Hopefully with the price people don't expect perfection. My MV-1C was pristine and came from a Chinese seller, so it's probably hit or miss.

[@joshbessler6991]

Been looking into getting a HAS but availability seems to be the largest hurdle. Does RGB plan to ramp up production? I don't really want to pickup any arcade boards until I've obtained the supergun first.

[@SmokeMonster]

He does a batch every six months, and there is one coming soon so you should get on the pre-order list if you're interested.

[@SmokeMonster]

Oh, here is a link to RGB's pre-order site homearcadesystem.wordpress.com/pre-order/

[@joshbessler6991]

@@SmokeMonster Thanks, orders opened up this morning so got on the list!

[@dogsauce19]

Damn those are some good deals. Someone must have found a few shipping containers of MVS boards to get rid of :p Also, is the discord still up? Don't see any way to join

[@chev9632]

I saw in NeoGeo forum that the list of 138 in 1 games is better, is this true? Thanks for the video.

[@chev9632]

Jackafur Gabbiani , no its not subjective, there is a consensus about best games in console , In fact the 138 shares most of the 161 games but with the addition of some classics and remove some hacks.

[@SmokeMonster]

138-in-1 is no longer in production I believe. It did have a few games that the 161 doesn't and I wish I'd bought one when they were still being sold.

[@chev9632]

www.google.com.br/amp/s/m.pt.aliexpress.com/item/32268054597.html Look this my friend ? Idont no this the same old or is new product ?

[@troybujnowski1695]

Alright I'm a newbie when it comes to the neo geo. I know they make an AES,MVS and CD a CDZ and cartridge form. Ive been looking into Neo Geo arcade stick and then there's a mod to ad a bunch of games. But now I see your video and I don't fully understand (forgive me im not technical at all) and your telling me i can buy this thing (motherboard) for 40-75 bucks plug it in and buy a 1-161 cartridge and play games just like that? Or am I missing something? If I need extra parts or add ons I would have no idea how to do that or have the skills to get it done. Anyway to clarify exactly what I would need to do after I purchase one of these. And wordt case scenario would you be able to sell me one thats ready to go if I payed you a fee to have it 100% put together??? Ive been dieing to play the neo geo but these prices are LUDICROUS. Pkease get back to me I'd love to know if it's that easy thank you in advance

[@BeyondEntertainment_]

Any good options for Sega Saturn controllers on Neo Geo? That's one thing that makes me lean towards C-Box as a budget Neo Geo.

[@SmokeMonster]

RGB sells them for the HAS, and I think Frank might be making them for the Sentinel. But I don't think there are any good sources for those otherwise.

[@BeyondEntertainment_]

@@SmokeMonster How much does the HAS cost, & how can I connect Sega Saturn controllers to it?

[@SmokeMonster]

@@BeyondEntertainment_ I think the HAS is about $200, and you can add option Saturn adapters for about $30 each. Pricey for sure, but a good investment if you're getting into the arcade hobby.

[@skins4thewin]

So my one question is are there any FAQ's on how to use those HAPP 15 Amp power supplies and how to get the power from the wall? I am not an electrical engineer and would like to know how this works as I see there is no standard plug in for a standard power cable on these things.

[@SmokeMonster]

Here's a great one by someone who maintains 168 cabinets kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHTQeJ-wba2pr5o

[@aminekostone1411]

Seriously good video!

[@SmokeMonster]

Thank you!

[@Daniel-it1dp]

So, I recall from my childhood in magazines and in arcades hearing about a Supergun. Is this the same/similar thing from back in the early 90’s or did people reuse the name for these?

[@SmokeMonster]

They've been around since the '90s so you may have heard of them back then. They are the same thing.

[@TheFrenchy82]

Call me lazy, but is there any Super gun equipped with HDMI output ? Just asking ......

[@SmokeMonster]

No, since that would require adding an entire OSSC to the supergun, since arcade boards are all over the place with RGB/S and there can't really be an easy solution to it. There are digital HDMI mods for MVS though.

[@TheFrenchy82]

OK.. thanks for the information !

[@Deltax5]

Does audio pass thou the jamma to the super gun? Im fine if it's mono. Using a framemiester so everything needs to be in the scart cable right? I read that the consolized mvs has a bunch of mods and fixes. Are there any reccemended or does most superguns nowaday's do most of the work? I need some info about pgm attached to the supergun. Does it need any mods also? It's a shame that the MiSTer has a issue of not having enough ram for the bigger games. Hope bigger ram size comes out or a coding breakthrou. Atleast furtek is also working on neogeo cd which will all work but it's still missing some. A new alpha came out recently sadly it's a lite version so rgb only for now. There has been hdmi versions compiled before and posted on discord before.

[@SmokeMonster]

Yes, it will pass mono from the board, but just make sure it's not speaker level audio before plugging it into something like a Framemeister! No, avoid those consolized MVS like the plague and just grab a nice supergun. Yes, Furrtek will have Neo Geo covered in MiSTer eventually and that will be awesome :D

[@pwinterhalter]

Great video! Have you done any about cps?

[@SmokeMonster]

Thanks. I have a CPS2 multi setup and I'll definitely cover that one day.

[@ShamanNoodles]

So if I buy an mv1c and a supergun, I'm ready to play? I have an OSSC. Do I need a "uni bios" ? Not sure what that is heh. I'm a noob trying to play shoot em ups at home

[@ShamanNoodles]

On AliExpress there's "Supergun v1.0" with 12v input and Sega Saturn controller ports for about $60, but is this dangerous for my OSSC? It seems like the only upgrade from this is one that costs $200. That's a bit pricey for me =/ it has all the switches and dials for RGB and stuff

[@SionynJones]

Awesome.

[@SmokeMonster]

I know, right?! :D

[@GalaxyStranger01]

I just got my 161 in 1 in the mail a couple days ago. I compared it to GadgetUK's video and the boards are completely different - I can't tell whether or not it needs to be fixed. Is it safe to test?

[@SmokeMonster]

If you just got one, you don't need to do any of Gadget's mods. There is a new v2 161-in-1 that has all of his fixes applied and a fully populated PCB (all caps and voltage regulators). You can tell if it's the newest one because the cable connecting the two PCBs inside is socketed instead of being hot glued in place.

[@GalaxyStranger01]

@@SmokeMonster SWEEEEET! Thanks!

[@LB-tl3vx]

what about the IGS Poly game

[@SmokeMonster]

It's possible but would be pretty complex, no one is working on it ATM. I'd love a PGM core too.

[@chrisbentley3468]

Is eight man on the 161 in 1?

[@cbeaumont]

Is there a good enclosure/case solution for the mv-1c and supergun and/or consolize?

[@SmokeMonster]

Lions3 makes some nice plexi cases lions3.com/

[@xavsk8278]

eh ben ! je comprends pas ton soucis avec le jeux de baston sur le système.... c'est comme aimer la voiture et renier Lamborghini et Porsche ..... lapin compris ^^ sinon assez bonne présentation.

[@ClbnaVGM]

Have you actually tried this option ?

[@SmokeMonster]

What option are you talking about?

[@ClbnaVGM]

@@SmokeMonster What's in your title because we dont see nowhere in your video a real demo of an mvs system. It looks more like a theoretical buyer's guide. I was expecting more about a user feedback experience with the real thing.

[@SmokeMonster]

That is where my friends and I got our cheap 1-slots from, you can see one of mine in my Neo Geo MiSTer video and I've tweeted pictures of them in action.

[@ClbnaVGM]

@@SmokeMonster Ok, I'll check your video. Thanks.

[@BongWeasle]

So is this the same as this... Omega Entertainment Machine - Neo Geo MVS Game Console $529.99, but without the case and stereo mod etc ?........if so wow

[@SmokeMonster]

Yes, I believe the Omega had an MV-1C inside IIRC

[@bengmo64]

I wonder if those AliExpress listings are clones.

[@SmokeMonster]

No, they're real. While the MVS was cloned back in the mid '90s (SNK shut them down fast apparently), they're pretty uncommon and there's no real chance of getting one of those from current sellers.

[@V1C10US]

Yeah, 161-in-one is a POS, but it's by far the best deal to get a lot of great games. I've been selling my legit MVS carts off because my 161 cart never comes out.

[@zdthn]

I still have to order and test this but I just made a quick stereo audio mixing board for the mv1a/b following the information online. The figures might need to be adjusted but it should work and allow you to run the thing off just 5v. oshpark.com/shared_projects/Xhxcj1H3. This should make it even cheaper. 5v psu I use. www.arrow.com/en/products/wsu050-4000-r/triad-magnetics

[@timothypeters7160]

Thanks...

[@mirabilis]

You're beautiful, @SmokeMonster

[@mastarubio]

Retroelectronik supergun gets no love?

[@SmokeMonster]

I have nothing against RetroElectronik in particular, but I strongly recommend against ALL pass-through type superguns.

[@jeffbrewster4024]

Aren't these just bootleg versions?

[@SmokeMonster]

No, these are real. They're used, authentic MVS motherboards. These Chinese sellers are where a lot of us have been ordering them from for the last 10 years or so.

[@jeffbrewster4024]

@@SmokeMonster thanks for the response, I'm gonna order one of these.

[@skins4thewin]

A word of warning though. There are a LOT of clone MVS units being sold on sites like Aliexpress, so be damn sure to do board comparisons from the pics. Look up some pics online of the official model board you are buying and compare the pics to the actual board you are buying to make sure they are identical. If not then chances are it's a clone board.

[@SmokeMonster]

Clone MVS are extremely rare and there's no chance of getting one from these sellers. These Chinese sellers are who we've been buying our 1-slots from for about 10 years .

[@Puretea4711]

Pretty expensive ... i´ll stick with my Pi

[@WildVoltorb]

Neogeo FPGA when? Hey Analogue

[@joshikus]

Check out mister

[@kamarrawlings6285]

Why don’t you people put the Neo Geo library on sd cards and sell them to people who is unfortunate to download the games. I have the neo sd flash cart pro and it’s going to waste because I can’t get the games. People are modding ps1 classic,snes mini and the sega genesis selling sd cards with games already downloaded. But for some reason when it comes to NeoGeo nobody selling sd cards with games already on or saying anything about it and I’m really getting pissed off I’m not buying no expensive NeoGeo library definitely out of the question. Nobody’s even coming after you for doing so I just want the games and the easy access to play the games. Die hard NeoGeo fan hopefully someone will understand.

[@plowking813]

neo geo mame runs on any crap pc free...

[@SmokeMonster]

Are PCs cheaper than $35 real hardware?

[@plowking813]

@@SmokeMonster you can pickup a 2000 pc for 25 bucks lol

[@SmokeMonster]

Neo Geo emulates in RetroArch on my Vita, but I would never give up my real hardware personally. You can have both.

[@plowking813]

@@SmokeMonster point noted just saying all neo geo roms can be played very well on any pc, most ppl have old pcs in their homes that does not require spending a penny more

[@SmokeMonster]

@@plowking813 Both of your examples require buying a PC. You wouldn't have to buy the Neo Geo either if you already owned one, so you wouldn't have to spend a penny in my example either.

[@jerricabenton842]

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