🟥A $4,500 SAD😢| Audeze LCD-5 _(Z Reviews)_ 💎💎💎💎

[@MattBorchert]

If Audeze puts the LCD-X into this form factor / build, I buy it instantly. INSTANTLY.

[@mobcrusher4193]

My back hurts after wearing the lcd x for a hour

[@IBODEGAI]

Same. I’m hoping they do.

[@exarkunn69]

I sold my LCD-X for my Empyreans and while I loved the sound on my LCD-X the comfort killed it for me.

[@dixter1652]

be careful what you wish for.. then the LCD-X would cost $4500....

[@chipsnmydip]

Honestly, if the LCD-5 was just tune like an LCD-X

[@ZReviews]

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[@gatobakuniano]

Koss? Edit: Oh, ok, you don't mean american brands, but made in the USA?

[@massimilianomusso5448]

Shure

[@Xsetsu]

Not gonna be a popular thing but appreciate the honesty in how you feel.

[@TheCangle]

I enjoyed your review a lot even though I've had a different experience (a positive one) with the LCD-5. However I enjoy fiddling with the electronics (dacs and amps) so totally get the I just want all my music to sound good regardless of the electronics and headphones. Anyways the 5 for me are smoother than my other headphones and I find myself getting lost in the music more than I do with something like the 1266 which is more lively and at times too in your face. With EQ the 5's can be made more fun for pop/electronic stuff by increasing the bass but I like the stock tuning. The system I've enjoyed the LCD-5 on the most is Bricasti MC1 -> Flux Volot. Thanks for the review, it was an entertaining 30 minutes.

[@eminent2003]

Well, I agree with you on the tonality stock but I don't believe in being force fed a preference on tone. I appreciate the effort, but I don't believe in or have the money and space to have more than one hp in rotation. So, I take a stance on highest detail first and foremost and tweak the tone to taste. Headphones should sound good with every genre with the highest level of detail possible to me. What is sad, is many didn't take the time or bothered with eq them and went missing out. Ten months later and I am proud to say I absolutely love these with Mitch's convolution filters and I am glad I invested in them. They truly scale to an experience where I have to force myself to take them off. I recommend anyone considering these that aren't allergic to eq to try these on a decent amp like a GSX-mini with Resolve's V2, Oratory or Crinacle's preset. If you have another $200 to spare, get the convolution filters and be at end game with me.

[@jzharayjarol2543]

I feel like my time trying these at CamJam 2021 was just colored due to the wait I had go through and the fact that it was the first headphone I listened to. I do remember the low bass and the amazing feel of the finish and lightness. In the end I came away more impressed of the Empyrean Elite and DCA Stealth. Speaking of, I REALLY hope someone will do a video on their thoughts on the DCA Stealth. I hope you get your hands on them one of these days Zeos!

[@harackmw]

something tells me he ain't going to care for them

[@ryanamendt8363]

I was probably at the same Can Jam! I listened to the LCD5 and thought the high bass was a little boosted. Not enough to be a deal breaker though and I considered them the second best headphones to the DCA Stealth.

[@LordVictorHalgaard]

I respect this video… Given my review of the LCD-4 and you were the only other reviewer who seemed to have the same experience with them - I suspect I’ll have the exact same opinion of these.

[@chickenheads3746]

Good to see you pop in Lord Halgaard, I’ve always enjoyed your reviews very much! I have the HEKSE now, which to my ears is a perfect marriage of technicality and musicality. I enjoyed Z’s review as well, as it seems he’s one of only a couple of reviewers who haven’t got complete nuts over the LCD 5 so far. Id like to hear a pair, but it sounds like it may be more technicality than musicality in the case of the 5.

[@mastaboog749]

I want an Audeze or ZMF this year. Spending over a grand on a headphone I haven't heard yet is hard for me. I'm nearly certain I'll love the LCD2s and ZMF just looks amazing and their pads are brilliant. Going to go back and watch some of your videos again to see if it helps

[@BxrHavik]

What he's basically saying is, these headphones are for Mastering Engineers, and only Mastering Engineers, who want to hear every detail of a song so they can master it properly. These are not "Musical" headphones to have fun with. They will tell you everything about a song, good or bad, and some may or may not like that.

[@DirectorsGarage]

I think they're reference, and if you want a reference experience, the LCD 5 is perfect reference. But if you want a bassy fun experience, these aren't that headphone. I enjoyed them with the full knowledge that I was listening to a great headphone to mix on (for an open back), but not for casual listening. They are great for jazz and high quality recordings.

[@theodorezurla496]

The man has spoke 🙌

[@x32i77]

Did you try the abyss Diana TC or the Sonoma acoustic bravura headphone system 🙂 ?

[@michaelp.3485]

Exactly. For so many people in the audiophile community who value audio quality, they sure act as if reference and accuracy are dirty words.

[@chipsnmydip]

@@michaelp.3485 Audio quality isn't supposed to be something you are force yourself to like or listen to. LCD-5 is tuned badly with an enormous shouty nose between 2-4k and is only listenable with lots of EQ. It is not neutral or balanced and OTB is quite hostile to most music with a full instrument ensemble. If something doesn't sound enjoyable to listen to you can just rationalize it with statements about "reference" and "accuracy" or you can get headphones that don't sound bad.

[@khadajhin596]

So Nat King Cole vinyl recordings should sound great on these.

[@khaled_2249]

I don't think you've done the LCD-GX which is like 900$ and sounds really good

[@quixotic1x]

ZMF headphones are made here

[@LarryGanz]

I kinda miss my LCD-2 V2, a big step up from the LCD-2 V1, but I sold them because they were so heavy that my neck hurt after 20-30 minutes. My son in his early 20's also thought they would send him to the chiropractor. Much happier with lighter headphones like HD-800s, HE-1000se, or my ancient Sennheiser HE-60 Baby Orpheus.

[@adamgreenhill110]

The HE1000se is absolute top tier as well, I can't believe how light they are. Might be my endgame, but time will tell!

[@Jujuboy0]

What’s your favorite LCD headphones? I have an LCD 2 and what do you think is the best upgrade from it (with a the same sound signature)?

[@AtomicBear18]

Fortunately, I got the LCD 2F a few weeks ago and I am ultimately in love. Plenty of detail for me, and with EQ, I have a few different profiles tweaked for neutrality, or for fun listening, that kind of thing. I’ve been doing some research on up-LCD-ing, and I’ve come to the conclusion that the extra price for 3,4,5 is not worth it. Find your perfect EQ, and love the LCD-2 for the rest of your life.

[@Jujuboy0]

@@AtomicBear18 thanks for the answer. I’ll follow your advice and enjoy them for as long as possible:)

[@powermod6772]

The LCD-5 can be shouty at high volume due to the midrange peak. If you EQ them, they are absolutely great!

[@hi-fidude6670]

If you need to EQ your headphones the manufacturer did something wrong

[@powermod6772]

@@hi-fidude6670 No, constructing headphones is always a compromise of many parameters. Frequency response is least important because it can be tuned so easily by the end user. Also the individual ear shape, hearing sensitivity and personal preferences can influence the perceived frequency response.

[@RyanHarris77]

These are headphones endgame for me. I went from AKG K240DF to Beyer MMX 300 2nd gen to my current Neumann NDH 30. If I ever get into mastering seriously, I’m getting these (unless something better comes along).

[@SeaNNyTizzle]

Audeze needs to bring weight reduction alternate models to their entire line. An Audeze LCD 2 that is lighter would be ideal for me. The current one is too heavy.

[@Maver1ck911]

Lcd2c

[@jakobhp3180]

@@Maver1ck911 Too cheap to get much love - I really enjoy my pair:-)

[@Maver1ck911]

@@jakobhp3180 I have the X and no issues with weight . The Fazor vs Non Fazor is of no concern to me, but if weight is an issue and the wood asthetics are not a deal breaker... yeah LCD2C is the way.

[@jakobhp3180]

@@Maver1ck911 LCD-2 closed or classic? I have the classic. Does the fazor actually do much?

[@Maver1ck911]

@@jakobhp3180 classic. There are no 2 closed

[@cothealiv780]

already with the sticker on the element III. good sign.

[@jacksonville4932]

My perception of life and sound is skewed because I'm an audio producer as well as audiophile, so the detail is vital. I have tried the Elites, and they just don't cut it. The lcd 5 with EQ is next level, and when you add Xbass from the Ican Pro Sig, it melts your brain. Soundstage is just big enough for me not to be mad at it. Overall, I'd say a seriously solid headphone. But again, I may be into the overly heavy clinical sound as I mix and master on headphones.

[@chipsnmydip]

I think there is a philosophical question of whether you think of a headphone as a blank canvas for DSP, or if you expect it to sound OK by itself.

[@jacksonville4932]

@@chipsnmydip very true

[@dheisman21892]

I returned mine for the exact reasons you listed. Nothing was enjoyable on them. I much prefer my Diana V2 despite the comfort being lacking. Any plans to review the Diana TC?

[@sparky1499]

Nice flex. ‘I much prefer my Diana V2…’ wrinkled planars?

[@marekkouril7134]

@@sparky1499 Have you heard Diana V2?

[@sparky1499]

@@marekkouril7134 I have not. Since I don’t have £2500 to drop on a set of cans I probably never will.

[@x32i77]

The Diana TC would be really interesting aswell as the Sonoma acoustic bravura headphone system

[@jacksonville4932]

@@sparky1499 ah yes, the 'wrinkled driver' joke

[@colingordon0986]

Can’t wait for the Audeze MM 500 review! I have these and are exceptional. Basically like the LCD 5 but half the price. Vocals, soundstage, imaging, mid range are great especially for a studio headphone. Mid bass is separated. And so easy to drive with anything. I use with my hidizs dh80s and it works amazing. My first high end headphone and definitely not disappointed.

[@gjtube37]

Was this a new headphone when you received it and if so how long did you listen to it before you shot this review? I thought the LCD5 sounded pretty bad when I first got it but after a long break-in period, wow did things improve! The bass is really nice and deep, the mids are really nice and the treble is just right for me. The LCD5 really seems to need a long break-in. I am using the Chord TT2 and Mscaler.

[@chipsnmydip]

I put close to 200 hours on mine. They improved somewhat, but it wasn't a miracle.

[@TonyHsu]

Thanks for the discount code on the 8xx z! At the price point after discount are the 8xx as good or better as the lcd2c?

[@the_dietcam]

13:53 I snorted coffee out my nose

[@riocc]

oh damn... that 8xx offer is sweet... Q: I already got talked into the 1more triple driver and they're my favorites now... will the 8xx be worth the upgrade?

[@rogerhuston8287]

There are a lot of people who enjoy that ultimate reveal and analyze their music. I thought they were supposed to be bass monsters. Me, I like to enjoy music not analyze it.

[@mariodrv]

They are bass monster, in that it has the most detailed bass response on the planet. Problem is that Zeos chain is shit, especially his DAC's, not even touching on interconnects. He couldn't get the resolving ability or musicality out of totl headphones even if he wanted to - what he doesn't, cause he has to paddle chifi and midfi. ;)

[@michaelmacvittie6977]

@@mariodrv my guy do you have a hate boner for Zeos? I've seen you say this to at least 5 comments now. Stop wasting your (and our) time and just go listen to your own stuff.

[@rogerhuston8287]

@@mariodrv - While a DAC can increase resolution, it does not give more bass. Interconnects - from cheap to mid-fi maybe ever so slightly, but if you are implying that his chain is shit from the interconnects, then you're simply smoking crack. From the cheapest to a competent sure, there may be a slight improvement, but anything above that is miniscule. Perhaps he didn't have a good seal, but he did try just about every amp he had. I asked him on the Paetron chat to try tubes. However, to Zeos point, these headphones don't work on everything. This is similar to the Susvara, you have to build to that specifically. The take-away for the majority of Zeos audience is if you are looking to invest $4500 into a headphone this one you will have match very specifically to get a good sound where as the Meze Elite sound good on everything.

[@mariodrv]

@@rogerhuston8287 Everything from his dacs to amps is shit and the worst part he ist not even trying let alone researching for his "reviews". And wrong - a good dac can improve the bass, its fullness, its presence through better resolution and texture as well as soundstage and placement, and thus contrast or even have a slight frequency uptick. Sorry to burst your bubble bro - but he is NOT doing the audiophile community a favor by only pandering to gamers and anime fans living in their parents houses.

[@mariodrv]

@@michaelmacvittie6977 Not the same comment, no. And yes, he needs to stop producing shameful "content" like this. He is doing no one a favor with lazy dreck like this. I actually like him and tried to nudge him into a higher quality and more honorable review style - but this is atrocious and I simply had enough.

[@johenkay1129]

I think it's safe to say that everyone is waiting for your hifiman susvara review.

[@timcollett9642]

LCD-5 + TT2 is pure heaven. Yes shitty music sounds shitty, but these headphones are gooey heaven for my ears. Next purchase will probably be the 23R to pair with these. Everyone has a flavor and these headphones are pure awesome for me. Even with the zen can! No volume issues with me either.

[@jsharp9735]

Thanks for peeling those pads, was so curious how it looked underneath. Non of these "TOTL" should cost more than 2k.

[@mentalrectangle]

I've come to believe that these companies have their real workhorse headphones in the 400-1500 range and everything above that is tech demo stuff.

[@mariodrv]

... and you came to this number after researching running a company, developing new technologies, building up mass production and supply chains, as well as accounting and international trade laws for how long?

[@jsharp9735]

@@mariodrv I came to this number by owning headphones and being baffled by the price difference between "lesser" and "TOTL" models when its basically made out of the same material with possibly slightly different process to make the drivers. Glue, leather, acetate, a bit of metal and the driver itself is somehow 2k to 3k more than the arbitrary number I used ? No. This was true before our current multifaceted economic and supply chain shock.

[@mariodrv]

@@jsharp9735 So make them for 2k. What are you waiting for?

[@mariodrv]

Lets see how much you can haggle the price down with a design company like BMW.

[@VST2323]

what are the most nuetral headphone for mixing? what about the audeze mm500

[@NalinKhurb]

Appreciate your take on things Zeos, keep it up

[@johenkay1129]

Did Zeos destroy Audeze with this review? They had to sell their company after this right?

[@chipsnmydip]

I had these for 3 weeks and definitely agree with this review. Such aggressive and shouty midrange and lows are missing, and overall felt pretty clinical. Seemed to remix all my music in a bad way centered around bite and sharp edges, and pushing bass and treble back. I also love the LCD-X.

[@gunnarsandberg8132]

bad ears you have ;)

[@chipsnmydip]

@@gunnarsandberg8132 I'm a trained and schooled audio engineer. I would never let a mix go to master with a massive 3-4khz boost. It sounds totally obnoxious and out of balance. 15db more 3khz than LCD-4. You'd expect that from a tin can.

[@Eternity131]

So for American made you can get this or an abyss Diana TC for the same price. 🤷‍♀️

[@paulosilva8200]

We all know that the refence liner target is the best to listen to details . And for that we need to loose the bass. Problem is that music is recorded according to all instruments being in balance with eachother . In a rock track in 2021 to 22. All producers track guitars with a flat refence .and the bass guitar does the jib in the same level as the drums snare and kicks. So lowering the low frequency to give the mids a better reproduction on music is fine when you listen to acoustic ,classical and vocal tracks, that's it. Once the bass goes up it destroys the mids, but that's the point to have music in a balance that should be there. This headphones are good for who likes this type of music. You want to listen to different type. Forget it. Choose other set .

[@theodorezurla496]

Imagine spending five grand on a headphone and then watching this review LMAO

[@mariodrv]

Thats why no one spending serious money on hifi watches Zeos as the last word.

[@redleather420]

why would you watch this review for an actual opinion? hes shilled more products than hes actually reviewed. promoted almost scams considering the broken freq response of his favorite headphones and the fact that the companies he loves the most pay for the review by giving him thousands of dollars in gear that he later sells for profit. . every single reviewer who actually has credibility loves these headphones. and non of them get paid in product like zeos. can you trust a review that is paid by the manufacture for the review? not to mention the poor track record of recommended headphones being actual trash objectively and subjectively. so no one should feel bad seeing this review they should use this as proof to not take this review seriously.

[@thierryfaquet7405]

Oh you can see the amount of copium in the comments already.

[@4epa1012]

@@mariodrv Spending serious money does not necessarily mean you spend money on a good product. People have different tastes, these might sound sh1t to me and 300 USD headphone might sound better to my ears...

[@mariodrv]

@@4epa1012 Serious money as IN RESEARCH WHERE YOU SPEND IT VEEERY SERIOUSLY.

[@mab1776]

How you described these is exactly how I'd describe my Beyerdynamic T70. They are literally only good with classical music, which I barely listen to.

[@martinkulik9466]

From what I heard from dt770 I don't expect anything good sound wise from that company

[@mab1776]

@@martinkulik9466 I do really like their Aventho line, warm syrupy bass. The Tesla line is just too neutral for me.

[@beezlebub3955]

Wow, busy week for the Z moister 🤙👌 yeaaaaa moisterrrrrr

[@WarriorKidd06]

Aren't ZMF and Klipsche HP3 made in America?

[@LSDScreen]

I’ve owned several Audezes over the years and the LCD-5 have by far my favorite FR of them all, and the highest resolving ability. I was amused and a little shocked by this review, but I guess I shouldn’t have been, since I often find myself disagreeing with Zeos. But usually it’s the other way around, where I think he’s greatly overrating something. This is the first time I’ve seen him hate something I love.

[@killerra]

@@mariodrv High positivity with the cheaper headphones means he can funnel people through the affiliate links and get paid. It is what it is.

[@zackw4941]

@@mariodrv The Audiovalve Solaris is a wonderful amp, but he's running it off a budget DAC. Even if it's brilliant for the money, it's not going to be in its league with $10k down stream..

[@zackw4941]

@@mariodrv Are you talking about his DAC or the Solaris?

[@MrLuftmann]

@@mariodrv exactly

[@zackw4941]

@@mariodrv Oh. Well, I will disagree. It might not have the immediate definition of my Master 19, but it is very clear and transparent with no flabb. It sounds wonderful with classic rock and stuff like that as expected, but it is fast enough for EDM and sometimes brings real surprises to unexpected genres with its interpretation of spacial ques. For example, the Rebal Era album by Griz, is a special experience on this ;) It's on board DAC actually has a very heavy stereo typical tube sound, but pair it to a quality external source and the amp itself is very clean.

[@GingerDrums]

As a mastering engineer I can only say: these are extremely analytical, bright headphones that are ultra detailed. If I want to enjoy a meal, I don't use a scalpel...

[@carminedesanto6746]

I went with the LCDX 2021 …and I’m good ..they aren’t anywhere picky ..what did they At AUDEZE do 😳

[@weyderwarr]

14:02 Which version of Angel of Harlem is this, and by who? Got some funk to it. I dig it.

[@harackmw]

Cans like these make me wonder what people are listening to with them, because I think the source and quality of the recording (and even genre) play a role in whether it feels like knives into your ears, a nightmare ADHD experience where you are distracted by every mistake in the recording, or a spherical soundstage trip as others have said. Those of you who have enjoyed these cans, please explain what you are actually listening to, because I find it hard to believe there are that many well recorded albums out there to justify the price.

[@chungang7037]

lol no one responded

[@aceofspades6667]

I’ve seen used LCD5 going for around $3500.. and the LCD4 Ive seen dip to $1850. In case that tickles your pickle. Imo the Utopia and LcD4 are the near flagship hps to get at their current used prices. Perhaps a Final D8K as well.

[@x32i77]

Don't forget about Sonoma acoustics bravura and abyss Diana TC

[@masterxyr]

That deal on the HD8xx is sooooo sweeet!! Cheers Z. Pity I'm on saving mode 😭😭😭😭😭

[@redleather420]

dont give Z money for a broken version of an already great 800s.

[@thierryfaquet7405]

It's not sweet at all. It's Drop desperation to sell their stock, because they got trashed everywhere except Zeos. the HD8XX are a massacre of the 800s.

[@masterxyr]

@@thierryfaquet7405 isn't the soundstage still there? I have no qualms with EQ

[@HtS643KyS6555GxQ3edA]

Would you defecate on these like the ATH-M50?

[@emanuellgustea122]

How is he gonna say there's no low end? Have you seen the graph? The bass extends all the way down to 20

[@Criiies]

Graphs can't tell you everything

[@emanuellgustea122]

@@Criiies there's a reason why graphs exist.

[@emanuellgustea122]

@@Criiies that statement is completely out of context. The graphs can at least show you if there's low end.

[@GreatSax1]

You haven't done the LCD-R

[@johnnyboo9041]

Looking back at your reviews you actually say you like the LCD2 Classic open backs over the X’s

[@clppy48]

Have you ever tried the blackshark v2 alot of people including me say they're great definitely not the best but really good

[@97invaderzim]

Zeos, I'm looking to pick up a set of zmf pads for the t60rp and was wondering which pads does what for them sound wise

[@LTCrazyBBS]

Hey, I know your not really one to do microphone reviews but could you do a review of the lewitt lct 1040

[@robertreynolds2212]

After purchasing a pair, can't seem to understand your impressions. Sure, they're mid-forward, but no low end?

[@codyday8089]

If you purchased them and enjoying them, then why watch this video at all? I have elites and havent watched any review since.

[@tokyoNeedleDrop]

Thanks for the Drop code, sir. I enjoy your channel but I can’t watch your reviews without getting motion sickness after a few mins. I just leave the audio on. 🤢

[@darrellross8609]

Dear Z. I could 'Drive' to JDS Labs, here in the STL area. But, you are MY main link to the headphone world. So Thank you for all you do. Best, D.

[@misaki.9998]

This video comes the same day as my LCD-5

[@ZReviews]

Don't let this cloud you, judge for yourself. I am only one man.

[@johenkay1129]

Should have got the Sus. I'd bet that Zeos will have a glowing review on the vara's.

[@ZReviews]

@@johenkay1129 I heard that a few months back. It is fucking magic

[@robertreynolds2212]

How do you forget Abyss when mentioning American made? 6:06. Never mind. Lol

[@Asterisk3095]

5:00 Koss are American aren't they?

[@disadadi8958]

I bet the gen 3 T1 from Beyer could be your cup of tea for chill listening sessions.

[@NatiiixLP]

The greatest shame of Drop products is that you want to buy something from an EU company, produced entirely in the EU, as an EU citizen, but... you simply can't. The back-and-forth shipping, import fees and customs duties more than double the price, if you even manage to have it delivered to you in the first place, which can be quite a challenge with the likes of Drop.

[@Miguel_Sanchez69]

I paid 30€ in shipping and fees for my 6xx. Took two weeks. Totally worth it.

[@joshuasterling2144]

@@Miguel_Sanchez69 Not a bad price to pay when the alternative is never.

[@NatiiixLP]

​@@Miguel_Sanchez69, How tho? The VAT alone must be more than in any EU country, unless Drop miraculously includes per-country VAT in heir prices, which I doubt because they're American. The customs duties charged by DHL start at over $30 on their own, so I don't see how that could work.

[@Miguel_Sanchez69]

@@NatiiixLP It was 190€ incl. shipping back then. I had to pay around 30€ for VAT and Customs.

[@NatiiixLP]

@@Miguel_Sanchez69 Well that's quite a bit for a 190€ product, but I'm worried about how it's going to scale with price when you get to 1000€. Customs may be handled quite differently in each country, but ever since the free import of cheap items from China ended, they've been extremely careful and brutal here. You wait two months for them to even deal with your package and then they charge you a ton of money for a worthless service. Honestly, it's such a stupid scam. You shouldn't pay customs on EU products anyways, regardless of who the retailer is.

[@mhortop1]

I listened to these on a 50k DCS Lina stack and was not impressed either. I totally agree with your assessment of this headphone. It needs serious EQ to bring up the lower end and even then it sounds totally sterile and lifeless despite all the detail you get. I also tried these next to the Susvara and Utopia and they are so much nicer cans than the LCD-5’s. These two are the only headphones you’ll ever need!

[@stephenstrang590]

This headphone is the embodiment of all the worst parts of this community. Good on you Z.

[@chungang7037]

Yup, they made a headphone so detailed we hear nothing but how bad all our music is, because most of what will sound good on it won't be music we actually like.

[@scottpolston6137]

I’m pretty sure the rings on the lcd5 are acetate on y the outer portion that covers the aluminum

[@annarobertson8320]

Try Convinceme audio review, thenvall is explained. It needs proper amplifiers, then it's sublime

[@Myvoetisseer]

4500 buckaroons and I can't easily change the pads? That's insulting if nothing else.

[@x32i77]

I recommend the abyss Diana TC instead

[@mauriziomauricone]

It’s designed for professional audio engineers for mixing and mastering. Please research why the Yamaha’s NS-10 are / where so popular in studio’s all around the world. The MM-500 are tuned the same way.

[@ConnorHammond]

Lol 2:15 you sounded like Mike Stoklasa. Would actually be hilarious to see you try a Mr. Plinket style review.

[@BrJD-ii4iv]

Arguably the most accurate description of these headphones. The clamping force, change of pads & lack of bass is a Strong miss for me. The Audeze LCD X (2021) is def better (iMO).

[@themosyannakou6893]

Keep in mind it’s very amp dependent. It’s a whole new beast on my pathos inpol ear and Auris euphoria

[@LSDScreen]

@@themosyannakou6893 I’m using a Bryston BHA-1 with an RME ADI-2 and that combo works well. Plenty of bass in these when driven well.

[@Maver1ck911]

@@LSDScreen with loudness engaged and +4 bass 🙃

[@dototftvortic7708]

@@LSDScreen tbh the best dac option is Chord Dave + m scaler. This combo will smooth everything out and bring the clarity and separation to god tier. But if you are not crazy to spend $20000 for a Dac, then try these pair with a good R2R dac like holoaudio may or spring 3. You can also enjoy the music and be a happy man :)

[@kingstoler]

It seems like a more expensive, more "refined" LCD-X.

[@itsabodh]

I returned them back the very next day, didn’t even care about burn in (i own lcd4 and love them)

[@l67swap1]

Its so hard to spend this much when tungstens exist 🤷

[@bklynbass]

Every headphone is a compromise with trade offs involved. LCD-5s are an ultra-revealing, luxury listening audiophile headphone. In my experience, virtually all of my well recorded / mixed /mastered / pressed recordings will sound better than ever on them. But because they are so revealing, they will not make bad sounding recordings sound better. They’ll usually sound worse. The Xs will make just about everything sound good but you’ll be missing details the 5s reveal.

[@dixter1652]

wouldn't it be nice if your playback app would have the options for " favorite " tagging to be able to have " headphone favorite " options so you could have a favorite list for each headphone you own.... that way when you grab a headphone you just need to playback the playlist for that particular headphone....

[@powerhitter033]

My man Zeos is ready for baseball too.

[@elhijueputa8423]

I get where Zeos is coming from but in the end its all subjective. I really am enjoying the LCD 5 after adding a bass shelf and slightly lowering the highs. Mids are the best I ever heard period. I mean Zeos loves the HD8xx with the Dekoni Fenestrated sheepskin pads and I own the 8XX and bought those pads because of Zeos's review of them and honestly I cannot like them as such. I have to EQ the shit out of the HD8xx with stock pads to make them good.. in the end like I said its all subjective but to me the LCD 5 are not as bad out of the box like he has described them but that is me. All good in the end! I am curious of the Diana TC.. hopefully we see that review soon.

[@garfieldblessesyouwithadri3944]

EQ is fantastic, but I wouldn't rely on it to make headphones sound good because for example, you might want to listen from an iphone or something

[@phalanger1]

Imagine paying 4500 on a pair of headphones that needs EQ'ing to sound good. Yeah no thanks lol

[@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju]

to me it just sounds like people EQ their headphones and say it "sounds good" to try and justify their stupid purchase

[@cuspessor]

@@phalanger1 the lcd5 is the best tuned audeze IMO it does NOT need eq to sound good it sounds exceptional, the midrange is boosted a bit id drop it by MAX 2db if you dont like it, no need to though

[@elhijueputa8423]

@@JoseRodriguez-ey7ju Honestly to me applying EQ is like overclocking your PC.. get that available free performance if your PC can handle it. To me, if you can improve upon them then why rob yourself of the extra performance? Not all headphones can handle EQ. I agree that out of the box, headphones shouldn't need EQ especially paying hefty amount of money but like all things, there is no perfect headphone or electronic gear out there from TVs to speakers to DACs/Amps.. if there was then we wouldn't need all these brands and options.. its all subjective to your taste. There is no right or wrong answer here. Like Cuspessor said, no real need to EQ the LCD 5 but I do it to make it better than it already is to me. To each their own.

[@xeri6760]

So is the aeolus the antithesis of this headphone?

[@nikks1371]

The build quality is quite honestly terrible. The pictures of the connectors that are glued onto the headphone really show how bad it is. Save your money and get a pair of LCD-X

[@himboslice_]

idk why anyone would want lcd x if they aren’t using them as reference headphones for music production

[@SuLu_B]

@@himboslice_ I do zero music production or engineering but why does that disqualify me from being able to love the way they sound

[@bathynomusgiganteus2916]

@@himboslice_ except LCD-X are awful reference headphones for mixing (not that you should be doing this on headphones ever) and LCD-5 are a little better in this regard.

[@jsharp9735]

@@himboslice_ You just repeat anything marketing people convince you of ? lol

[@LSDScreen]

I’m the guy you saw post that picture on Reddit of the glued-in connector having come out, so I had an opportunity to return these and get something else, and instead I got the LCD-5 AGAIN because I was so in love with the sound. Take that with a grain of salt or whatever, but I couldn’t live without them- build be damned.

[@tristankrafft4201]

I swear Zeus is the best reviewer while I’m drunk, my mind just aligns so well with his videos while I’m drunk 😂 honestly my favourite reviewer and I’ve been on audio forums and everything! Keep it up Zeos, your nonchalance is needed in the world, regardless of audiophile world.

[@disastrousemouse]

Isn’t Abyss American-made?

[@Maver1ck911]

Try If You Leave Me Now Charlie Puth and Boys to Men. Pretty excellent as for test tracks.

[@vote4ulvio]

Are Shure made in USA?

[@robertthurston6858]

I listened to the LCD 5 for 5 minutes at a shop and found their bass anaemic. The rest of their frequency seemed fine , but For $4500 it was ridiculous . I need to hear the LCD X.

[@michaelp.3485]

You are ridiculous if you write off any headphone after 5 minutes of listening. You know nothing.

[@robertthurston6858]

Oh I see, the bass will get better in a hour ? Well it didn't for Z Reviews. But know nothing ? And you know everything Obi-Wan Kenobi. Have you even heard it ? 😀

[@dixter1652]

how do thy sound playing back " yello "

[@Airvaster]

But did you try gaming with them?

[@ZReviews]

Actually no. I barely game but I bet these would be good for competitive, lol

[@MidnightTitan]

It's crazy how many people have different experiences with the lcd-5. I've been loving it without EQ and I prefer it to the susvara aside from the smaller soundstage. I wonder if there's a problem with product variance and some lcd-5s measure differently than others.

[@TheChadXperience909]

In a $4.50 headphone? I mean, sure. But, in a $4,500 headphone? Let me get back to you... Right after I get this chainsaw started.

[@joshuasterling2144]

I have limited experience with Planar. I eq the crap out of my Hifiman's. I use the Dolby Atmos app on Windows. My entire base section is up 5-3 db across the spectrum for custom and I use the warm preset for the rest of the time.

[@LSDScreen]

@@joshuasterling2144 The whole appeal of Hifimans to me is that the tuning is so neutral they don't need EQ.

[@Carlos2400]

That whisper of Spotify made me laugh

[@brandonburr4900]

I'm not in the market for this audeze set but would say a lcd 3 be a nice chill involving listen with good bass, midrange, highs and soundstage while still being resolving without being clinical? Anybody still use and enjoy a pair of lcd 3 these days?

[@coldkut]

I own and greatly enjoy the lcd-3, that said im not allergic to eq and always use a schitt lokius with it. As for weight I’ve never felt it but im a fairly thicc boi ;)

[@asmasm138]

+++++, mt-604 + d90 AKM, so sweet

[@Geerladenlad]

Could it be the tuning that makes these headphones hard to listen to?

[@chipsnmydip]

I think so. Otherwise they are good.

[@hirdy932]

Grado?

[@PaKtiV1]

Kind of shitty the coupon code doesn't work after 5 days. Wtf

[@hs1124]

I think the Audeze LCD-5 is better than Meze Audio Elite. But the best planar is Hifiman Susvara and the best dynamic is Focal Utopia.

[@x32i77]

You did forget about abyss Diana TC and the Sonoma acoustic bravura headphone system ( electrostatic though)

[@christianandrew4746]

Utopia = closed-in sounding

[@humanbass]

The thing is Audeze really nails very low THD in their headphones, what makes them very responsive to EQing. Maybe that can bring new life to those.

[@chipsnmydip]

So does Meze, and their headphones require less EQ.

[@LSDScreen]

@@chipsnmydip I've tried the Empyrean and the Elite, and while they are super comfy, beautifully built, and have really nice dynamics and FR, I found the detail seriously lacking.

[@chipsnmydip]

@@LSDScreen I would not argue that they are the last word in detail. But with a really nice aftermarket cable you would be surprised by how much they improve. The lack of precision isn't that significant and the listening ease can make up for it.

[@stuka78]

OTL with planar?!?

[@klaymoon1]

I agree with Zeos. For the price, LCD-5 shouldn't be. I don't think people at Audeze have other brands' high-end headphones. The funny thing considering how engineering focus Audeze is they just can't figure out the quality problem.

[@oopsalldrip1376]

How could you forget about Koss being american made.

[@jamesbittle469]

Koss is an American company, but I assumed that all of their headphones were made in China.

[@malinyamato2291]

I got LCD-5 and you don't like them :(

[@massivemikeh]

Zeos! You HAVE NOT reviewed LCD2 Closed! I wish you would. Cheers bro.

[@drewhendler158]

Great headphones but need EQ. Otherwise upper mids are a little hot, depending on song as you say. I was of the firm belief you shouldn't have to eq flagship headphones, but using Chrono's EQ, it makes these just about perfect and one of my favorites. It takes eq in a completely audibly transparent way - and I like the right out of a Chord Dave. Think the frequency response is great and it's the most transparent headphone I ever heard. I appreciate it most with jazz.

[@michaelp.3485]

Nope they dont need EQ. Your tastes just dont quite align with their tuning.

[@voidless1]

I'm an owner of lcd-5 and I'm backing that eq makes a huge difference in the sound from stock signature. On stock, I did find it unpleasant. When i used default parametric eq from oratory1990, it is very enjoyable with jazz, edm, rock all genres I've tried. It is very sensitive to eq and can suite many tastes for bass, mid or high preferences.

[@bassplayer2011ify]

Sounds like they got it right the first time (well second time) over a decade ago with LCD2s and then hit it out of the park with Xs a few years later. Also, glued on ear pads? Come on Audeze, my 100 dollar Sennheisers have easily replaceable ear pads.

[@q3znw6j88aywnwy]

and glued in jacks

[@reptilelikeme3254]

Maybe there was something wrong with that batch. A year later, I love my LCD-5s. They sound fantastic by every standard.